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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Smith.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Though I don't think this stuff, I never told you
- 0:08Speaker 2: production of iHeartRadio, and today we are bringing back a
- 0:20Speaker 2: classic on fictional women around the world, Dana Scully. We
- 0:25Speaker 2: have done several episodes about our relating to Dana Scully
- 0:30Speaker 2: because she had quite a big impact. She quite literally
- 0:34Speaker 2: has something named after her called the Scully Effects. She's
- 0:37Speaker 2: another episode for thinking about bringing back. But this was
- 0:41Speaker 2: on our minds because, as we recently said in another classic,
- 0:45Speaker 2: they are rebooting The X Files and I've seen some
- 0:50Speaker 2: new casting.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they've got the leads that got their leads.
- 0:53Speaker 1: I've been really excited to see it. I'm excited to
- 0:56Speaker 1: see it too.
- 0:58Speaker 3: I'm really excited watch The X Files in so long,
- 1:01Speaker 3: and this is kind of bringing back my.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I feel like you need to do a we watch through.
- 1:07Speaker 1: There's a lot of seasons, but it could be fun.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I have faith in you. I don't know that Killer
- 1:15Speaker 1: Bee episode comes on. I might, I might check it out.
- 1:18Speaker 3: It's so funny because most people think that's like the
- 1:20Speaker 3: least scary, the worst one, really, but killer Bees when
- 1:26Speaker 3: I was a kid, no way that.
- 1:28Speaker 1: We have a lot of bees in Georgia, so fair enough, right, right,
- 1:33Speaker 1: We've seen my girl.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Yeah, what a downer to end this song. Well, please
- 1:42Speaker 4: enjoy this classic episode. Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and.
- 1:52Speaker 3: What kind of stuff I've never told you a production
- 1:53Speaker 3: of iHeartRadio. Welcome to another sub sub sub sub whatever,
- 2:06Speaker 3: sub segment of women around the world, fictional women around
- 2:10Speaker 3: the world, And oh.
- 2:12Speaker 1: My goodness, I'm so excited about this one.
- 2:14Speaker 3: I'm so glad I chose who I did, which is
- 2:18Speaker 3: Dana Scully, because I actually had picked someone else out
- 2:21Speaker 3: for this our month of October, but then I was
- 2:25Speaker 3: thinking about I just saw on the news something about
- 2:29Speaker 3: the Scully effect, and I was like, well, I've got
- 2:31Speaker 3: to learn more about this and I might as well
- 2:32Speaker 3: tie it into work. And I'm so glad I did.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Perfect I love it. So I know. I've talked about
- 2:43Speaker 3: my experience growing up watching X Files terrified terrified me,
- 2:48Speaker 3: and in fact I got so scared by because I
- 2:52Speaker 3: have said I'm scared of alien so this was a
- 2:54Speaker 3: real push for me. But also it's the Killer B episode.
- 2:58Speaker 3: I got so scared my mom forbid me to watch
- 3:01Speaker 3: it ever again, so I had to stay up until
- 3:03Speaker 3: three am on Sundays and watch it on Fox at
- 3:07Speaker 3: the volume wait out.
- 3:10Speaker 1: If you're listening, mom.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Yes, I did that for years, but as I got older,
- 3:16Speaker 3: the band was lifted and my friend and I would
- 3:20Speaker 3: watch it and we would both be on our landline
- 3:22Speaker 3: phones and we watch it at the same time, and
- 3:25Speaker 3: her TV was slightly faster than mine, so she would
- 3:28Speaker 3: gasp and be like, what is it? And then it
- 3:29Speaker 3: would happen like it was such a fun experience that
- 3:34Speaker 3: doesn't really happen anymore. And I know I've talked a
- 3:36Speaker 3: lot about how watching this show was one of my
- 3:40Speaker 3: first times of like I had a crush on both
- 3:43Speaker 3: Molder and Scully and I was like, hmm, although.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Looking back, I wasn't. I didn't think that was weird.
- 3:50Speaker 1: I didn't think it was weird. It was funny.
- 3:52Speaker 3: I was telling the story that somebody the other day
- 3:54Speaker 3: and I was like, I used to think it was
- 3:56Speaker 3: weird that.
- 3:57Speaker 1: I had a crush on Luken Land.
- 3:58Speaker 3: She was like, oh, because you were learning you were
- 4:00Speaker 3: by and I was like, no, because they're related. I
- 4:02Speaker 3: wasn't sure if that was weird, and she was like,
- 4:04Speaker 3: oh uh yeah. So it never struck me as odd,
- 4:09Speaker 3: which I do find interesting. I think I might have
- 4:11Speaker 3: just assumed, you know, fictional crushes whatever, but it was.
- 4:14Speaker 1: It was a very kind of formative.
- 4:17Speaker 3: I know a lot of people have said this, this
- 4:18Speaker 3: is actually something we're going to talk about in this
- 4:20Speaker 3: episode as well, but I was not the only.
- 4:21Speaker 1: One who experienced this at all.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Also, I didn't realize until I was doing the research
- 4:26Speaker 3: for this episode, how kind of funny an on the nose.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Her name is Scully, But we have a Scully. If
- 4:33Speaker 3: you listen to or have seen any of the videos
- 4:35Speaker 3: that the stuff they don't want you to know crew
- 4:38Speaker 3: have done, they might mention Scully. Scully is a skeleton
- 4:41Speaker 3: that we have in our office that is always hanging around.
- 4:44Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't realize how kind of funny that
- 4:47Speaker 1: name is.
- 4:48Speaker 3: There you go, yes, all right, so let's get into it.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Dana Catherine Scully is one of the protagonists of The
- 4:56Speaker 3: X Files, a sci fi paranormal television show that Davey in.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety three.
- 5:02Speaker 3: She was played by Jillian Anderson and appeared in all
- 5:05Speaker 3: but five episodes of the nine seasons of episodes, plus
- 5:08Speaker 3: a much shorter two seasons. Some people say there's ten seasons.
- 5:12Speaker 3: Some people say there are eleven seasons. I don't know
- 5:14Speaker 3: what the deal is with that, but also in all
- 5:17Speaker 3: the movies. According to Chris Carter, creator of the series,
- 5:20Speaker 3: he immediately wanted to cast Anderson after her audition, but
- 5:23Speaker 3: the network was pushing him to cast a quote bombshell.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Their first choice was Pamela Anderson. Carter said he didn't
- 5:30Speaker 3: want romance between Mouldern and Scully and that he wanted
- 5:33Speaker 3: the genders to play against stereotypes, i e. Scully being
- 5:36Speaker 3: the more logical, skeptical one.
- 5:39Speaker 5: So Scully is an FBI special agent, medical doctor and
- 5:43Speaker 5: the skeptic to her partner Fox, I want to believe Moulder, Yes,
- 5:48Speaker 5: so I try to watch this. I've gone through a
- 5:51Speaker 5: few episodes, but that's part I didn't know, Like he's
- 5:53Speaker 5: trying to convince everybody you need to believe. But do
- 5:58Speaker 5: love that she is the all around know it all,
- 6:01Speaker 5: has to be at the top of her game, typical
- 6:05Speaker 5: FBI agent for these shows. She was originally assigned to
- 6:08Speaker 5: Molder to debunk his work and report back to her
- 6:11Speaker 5: supervisor Nark. Over time, she and Molder developed a strong
- 6:16Speaker 5: trust and respect for each other and later some romantic feelings.
- 6:20Speaker 5: Because you know, you got to add that in there
- 6:22Speaker 5: for drama.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Yeah, her drama. There was some drama, for sure, alien drama.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Scully was born in the sixties in Maryland and was
- 6:31Speaker 3: raised Catholic, though her favorite movie was The Extorcist. In
- 6:34Speaker 3: her ideas around religion fluctuate. Ultimately, she wants to believe too,
- 6:39Speaker 3: but is afraid to, says she wears a cross throughout
- 6:43Speaker 3: the series. Both her parents were supportive. Her dad was military,
- 6:47Speaker 3: and they moved around a lot. After her Sunday school
- 6:50Speaker 3: teacher was murdered in his backyard when she was thirteen,
- 6:53Speaker 3: she realized that there was quote true evil in the world.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Scully described her childhood like this, Ever since I was
- 7:00Speaker 3: a child, I've never allowed myself to get too close
- 7:02Speaker 3: to people. I've avoided emotional attachment. Perhaps I've been so
- 7:05Speaker 3: afraid of death and dying that any connection just seemed
- 7:07Speaker 3: like a bad thing, something that wouldn't last.
- 7:10Speaker 1: All right, I need to know.
- 7:11Speaker 5: Yes, is Jillian Anderson English?
- 7:14Speaker 1: No, But she grew up in London.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Okay, she was not born there, but from what I understand,
- 7:19Speaker 3: spent a good chunk of her childhood growing up there.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Okay, you asked Crown.
- 7:25Speaker 5: Yes, Well, not just because of the Crown, because like
- 7:27Speaker 5: any of the shows, uh, they had a BBC series
- 7:31Speaker 5: of it was one of the literature remakes. It wasn't Janielson,
- 7:34Speaker 5: but it was another one. I think it's Charles Dickens one.
- 7:36Speaker 5: And her accent was on point, and it threw me
- 7:39Speaker 5: off because her American accent is also on points, so
- 7:42Speaker 5: I assume she was American.
- 7:44Speaker 1: So that was one of those moments of what a Scully.
- 7:49Speaker 5: So anyway, right, just at that moment, so he being Scully,
- 7:54Speaker 5: not Jillian Anderson. She studied at University of Maryland, where
- 7:58Speaker 5: one of the doctors above her once said, quote, humans
- 8:01Speaker 5: are top carnivores. We sit at the top of the
- 8:04Speaker 5: food chain. We reduce other species chances of survival. True.
- 8:09Speaker 5: She studied forensic medicine and physics. She was really ambitious,
- 8:13Speaker 5: threw herself into her work, pushing herself to accomplish more
- 8:16Speaker 5: and more. In nineteen ninety she was recruited by the FBI,
- 8:21Speaker 5: where she attended the FBI Academy, later going on to
- 8:25Speaker 5: become an instructor. A cut scene described her as quote intelligent,
- 8:31Speaker 5: self assured, with an unblushing sense of her own femininity
- 8:35Speaker 5: and that she commands attention.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yes, that she does.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Over her time working with the Agent Molder, her beliefs
- 8:42Speaker 3: are tested as they encounter phenomena a week after week that.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Are often difficult to explain. I remember even being a
- 8:50Speaker 1: kid and.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Being like, wow, so something like this happens like every week.
- 8:55Speaker 3: At first, she is often mocking towards Molder and his idea,
- 9:00Speaker 3: But while the skepticism remains, she doesn't lose that. Her
- 9:04Speaker 3: attitude around it kind of shifts and she is really, really,
- 9:07Speaker 3: really skilled. She's quick on her feet, she's smart, she's
- 9:10Speaker 3: good under pressure, analytical, good with weapons. Also, she might
- 9:14Speaker 3: be immortal, and I totally forgot about that whole plot line.
- 9:18Speaker 3: She has a cancer scare. The plotlines are related to
- 9:21Speaker 3: this immortality thing and an infertility storyline as well. On
- 9:26Speaker 3: top of that, she has extraterrestrial DNA that she uses
- 9:29Speaker 3: to make a vaccine to save humankindoes. She partnered with
- 9:36Speaker 3: Agent Dogget when Molder disappeared, and gave birth to her
- 9:40Speaker 3: and Molder's telekinetic Sun although the pregnancy happened mysteriously, but
- 9:46Speaker 3: Scully and Molder call William their son. Turns out, aliens
- 9:51Speaker 3: need William to colonize planet Earth and that he was
- 9:54Speaker 3: at one time part alien. In order to protect him,
- 9:58Speaker 3: Scully finds a family to anonymous adopt him as a baby.
- 10:02Speaker 3: Way back in season two, she'd unknowingly mothered a daughter
- 10:05Speaker 3: named Emily, who was adopted to another family, where she
- 10:08Speaker 3: died soon after. Scully reunited with Moulder and they started
- 10:12Speaker 3: to life together, her working as a doctor for six
- 10:15Speaker 3: years until the charges against Moulder were dropped, and then
- 10:18Speaker 3: two returned as partners to the reopened X Files unit.
- 10:24Speaker 1: That's a lot.
- 10:25Speaker 3: I know, a lot happened in that paragraph the show, and.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Then there was something else, and one season was towards
- 10:37Speaker 1: the end. Damn Okay.
- 10:39Speaker 5: So it wasn't until towards the end of the show
- 10:42Speaker 5: that her and Moulder were more consistently shown doing date
- 10:46Speaker 5: like activities together and hints that they were dating or
- 10:49Speaker 5: hooking up started to appear. Moulder gave her a love confession.
- 10:54Speaker 5: It's implied that she initiated sex. She leaves them at
- 10:57Speaker 5: one point, and then they end up back together. Her
- 10:59Speaker 5: pregnant was his child.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, sure.
- 11:03Speaker 3: I mean obviously, if you've got like essentially eleven years
- 11:07Speaker 3: of stuff in a couple, movies.
- 11:09Speaker 1: It's a lot to condense, and it's strange. I mean
- 11:13Speaker 1: a lot of strange things on that show.
- 11:17Speaker 3: But obviously I did want to talk about the impact
- 11:21Speaker 3: this character had because she was well loved and critically lauded.
- 11:25Speaker 3: I found a list of like twenty female characters on
- 11:30Speaker 3: TV like now or recently that were inspired by her.
- 11:33Speaker 3: Like the creators have said, Scully was the inspiration, she
- 11:37Speaker 3: had a lasting impact. She has a Barbie. I don't
- 11:41Speaker 3: know what that really means. I mean she had a
- 11:43Speaker 3: big impact. She regularly lands on list of best and
- 11:47Speaker 3: most iconic heroines and provided inspiration for yes, a bunch
- 11:50Speaker 3: of fictional characters that followed after her. And the words
- 11:53Speaker 3: of Liz Shannon Miller at Indie Wire, Scully's legacy is
- 11:57Speaker 3: so important in so many ways, from giving us the
- 11:59Speaker 3: gift of Jillian Ander since acting to inspiring an entire
- 12:01Speaker 3: generation of young women.
- 12:03Speaker 1: To pursue careers in Stem.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Intelligent, loyal, flawed, and brave, Scully was the show's beating
- 12:08Speaker 3: heart and saving grace even in its lowest years. As
- 12:11Speaker 3: Chris Carter himself has said, it's Scully's show.
- 12:28Speaker 5: So let's talk about the Scully effect. Tell let's break
- 12:32Speaker 5: down that stembed. We've mentioned it before, but this is
- 12:34Speaker 5: something called the Scully effect. The popularity of this character
- 12:38Speaker 5: is thought to have inspired a whole generation of women
- 12:41Speaker 5: to pursue careers in STEM, and it's a term still
- 12:46Speaker 5: in use today. When asked about this in twenty thirteen,
- 12:50Speaker 5: Gillian Anderson actually said, quote, we got a lot of
- 12:53Speaker 5: letters all the time, and I was told quite frequently
- 12:55Speaker 5: by girls who are going into the medical world, or
- 12:58Speaker 5: the science world, or the FBI iWorld or other worlds
- 13:01Speaker 5: that I reigned that they were pursuing this pursuit because
- 13:05Speaker 5: of the character of Scully, and I said, yay.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Shuah, I love it.
- 13:11Speaker 3: This whole thing has actually been academically studied, including by
- 13:15Speaker 3: the Geena Davis Institute. Among two thousand women surveyed, they
- 13:18Speaker 3: found quote, among the women who are familiar with the character,
- 13:21Speaker 3: fifty percent say Scully increased their interest in STEM, and
- 13:24Speaker 3: forty three percent say they considered working in STEM because
- 13:28Speaker 3: of her. Ninety one percent that knew of her said
- 13:31Speaker 3: she was a good role model. And there are so
- 13:33Speaker 3: many heartwarming stories of women's scientists sitting around with friends
- 13:37Speaker 3: to watch the show and being inspired to do what
- 13:39Speaker 3: they do in part by Scully. Now, all this is
- 13:44Speaker 3: to say, like, wait, I think that article that brought
- 13:47Speaker 3: this character to my attention that came up the other
- 13:49Speaker 3: day was saying like, you know, how big actually is
- 13:52Speaker 3: this effect? Like can we really measure it? Is it
- 13:53Speaker 3: a real thing? But I mean I think that you
- 13:56Speaker 3: can certainly say even if she wasn't the main reason
- 13:59Speaker 3: by this or she did like maybe you know, get
- 14:03Speaker 3: you interested or like maybe you thought about it when
- 14:05Speaker 3: you had them before, which I think is great.
- 14:08Speaker 5: So when I initially heard the Scully effect, I thought
- 14:12Speaker 5: it was a sexual connotation.
- 14:14Speaker 1: Oh well we're going to talk about that.
- 14:17Speaker 5: Yes, many women were like, oh hello Scully in that
- 14:21Speaker 5: level and then being interested in threesomes because of the
- 14:24Speaker 5: X file.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Oh that's what I thought.
- 14:26Speaker 5: It was no context to it.
- 14:27Speaker 3: It was, however, moving interesting. Actually we are going to
- 14:31Speaker 3: talk about that kind of in a second, but first
- 14:36Speaker 3: we got to talk about the pantsuits. Okay, So one
- 14:39Speaker 3: thing people love about this character is her dang pants suits.
- 14:43Speaker 3: Like a lot of the articles I found were like
- 14:45Speaker 3: ranking Scullies fashion.
- 14:47Speaker 1: It was great.
- 14:48Speaker 3: How many people were like, no, it's horrible fashion, but
- 14:50Speaker 3: I love it, and other people being like, no.
- 14:52Speaker 1: This is the top of the fact, but I love it.
- 14:56Speaker 3: And when the show was coming out, this was like
- 14:59Speaker 3: when suits were becoming a thing, and it's third wave feminism,
- 15:03Speaker 3: and it was interesting to see the.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Evolution of that through this character.
- 15:07Speaker 3: While she is introduced in this iconic outfit, simple to
- 15:11Speaker 3: the point, and you probably it's when you think of skull,
- 15:13Speaker 3: you probably think of it where the white and the
- 15:15Speaker 3: black besier and kind of the black pencil skirt. Throughout
- 15:18Speaker 3: the show, she wears some slacks, some shoulder pads, some
- 15:22Speaker 3: patterns to the point, her outfits spawned passionate early days
- 15:26Speaker 3: internet discussions, because yes, this was also the early days
- 15:28Speaker 3: of the internet. Her style is sometimes called competence core.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Her style is both mocked and praised. Yes, her outfits
- 15:36Speaker 3: both display femininity while leaning into masculinity, a strategy that
- 15:40Speaker 3: many women in masculine fields employed. As the show progresses,
- 15:44Speaker 3: her clothes become more tailored to show off her shape more.
- 15:47Speaker 3: But it essentially you can find articles like talking about
- 15:50Speaker 3: the symbolism of her outfit and what it says about,
- 15:53Speaker 3: like where women in the workplace were at the time,
- 15:55Speaker 3: and how yeah, being in this masculine field.
- 15:57Speaker 1: She was kind of.
- 15:58Speaker 3: Like trying to lean into that with these boxes outfits,
- 16:01Speaker 3: but then also still remain feminine.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Interesting.
- 16:05Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember those suits, even though I didn't know
- 16:07Speaker 5: much of the show. I remember those suits. So from
- 16:10Speaker 5: Megan Garber at The Atlantic, she stays as she sheds
- 16:13Speaker 5: layers of clothes season after season. As blouses go unbuttoned,
- 16:17Speaker 5: they give away to tight T shirts and slight chemusals.
- 16:21Speaker 5: As blazers get belted and nipped and shortened, ass shrink
- 16:25Speaker 5: to fit her form. Scully sheds something else as well,
- 16:28Speaker 5: her belief, and indeed her default trust in all that
- 16:32Speaker 5: she has taken for granted, the big things so many
- 16:34Speaker 5: of us take for granted, government, religion, culture, the carefully
- 16:38Speaker 5: constructed intellectual infrastructures that give the world its order, All
- 16:43Speaker 5: of those, as The X Files goes on, get called
- 16:46Speaker 5: into question. Scully's clothes become a metaphor for her willingness
- 16:51Speaker 5: to believe in disbelief. They become a visual symbol of
- 16:55Speaker 5: how far her rationality has taken her. Scully, her clothes
- 17:00Speaker 5: suggest her weighty coats and bulky pants and jettison in
- 17:03Speaker 5: favor for more freeing options, might finally be able to
- 17:07Speaker 5: share Molder's faith and faithlessness.
- 17:10Speaker 1: Ooh, I love it. Ooh.
- 17:12Speaker 3: I also remember asking my mom before the band came
- 17:16Speaker 3: in police, why Molder always wore ties because she always
- 17:19Speaker 3: is getting strangled by them?
- 17:20Speaker 1: And I'm like, this seems pointless. Why I guess good
- 17:24Speaker 1: enough of a women with long hair?
- 17:25Speaker 5: Why you know you're going to it?
- 17:28Speaker 1: That's true, that's true.
- 17:30Speaker 3: So going back to what you were talking about, Samantha,
- 17:34Speaker 3: there is a thing called I am an ex files lesbian,
- 17:39Speaker 3: and I know, yes, I have told the story a
- 17:41Speaker 3: million times being attracted to both Moulder and Scully. I
- 17:44Speaker 3: didn't know this was like a whole thing, but apparently
- 17:47Speaker 3: it is. I am not alone in it. There's no
- 17:49Speaker 3: three some element as far as I know, but Scully
- 17:52Speaker 3: is sometimes jokingly referred to as the quote gateway lesbian
- 17:55Speaker 3: of choice. Academic research has been done on this, on
- 17:59Speaker 3: the quote Jillian Anderson, Dana Scully.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Made me gay movement from the nineties. Again, the Scully
- 18:06Speaker 1: effect was, Wow, I did.
- 18:09Speaker 3: I didn't know it was like been studied, and I
- 18:11Speaker 3: did read it.
- 18:12Speaker 1: There's only as far as I know, there's only one
- 18:14Speaker 1: academic paper, but I did read it.
- 18:15Speaker 3: I was like whoa Man, but also yes, early days
- 18:21Speaker 3: of the internet. X Files was one of the first
- 18:24Speaker 3: shows to foster an online fan fiction community, to the
- 18:28Speaker 3: point Scotland Yard investigated believing the writers were involved in
- 18:31Speaker 3: a cult.
- 18:32Speaker 5: Oh, Scotland Yard, you silly guys, I know. Yeah, what's
- 18:36Speaker 5: so funny is we will soon see a reference to
- 18:38Speaker 5: this and sex and the city in that fantasy level.
- 18:41Speaker 5: Oh so exciting, very quick. But I'm excited for you
- 18:44Speaker 5: to hear to see how you react to it.
- 18:46Speaker 3: Oh I am excited. Okay, well I got that to
- 18:50Speaker 3: look forward to. I have a friend, actually the friend
- 18:53Speaker 3: I used to watch at the same time on the
- 18:54Speaker 3: phone with, and she's rewatching X Files right now and
- 18:57Speaker 3: I've been very much enjoying her update of where she
- 19:01Speaker 3: is and out of contact. It can sound quite bizarre,
- 19:04Speaker 3: which I love. But she's saying like when she was younger,
- 19:07Speaker 3: she had a bigger crush on Molder, but she also
- 19:09Speaker 3: had a crush on Scully, But now she had the
- 19:11Speaker 3: bigger crush on Scully. Yeah, still a crush on Molder,
- 19:14Speaker 3: the bigger on Scully.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Yep. It's fair, Yep, that's fair.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Oh, it's been so fun, not one, but two effects
- 19:21Speaker 3: we get to talk.
- 19:21Speaker 1: About as always listeners.
- 19:23Speaker 3: If you have a suggestion for someone we should feature
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