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Comedy, Movies and Magic... with Yedoye Travis · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sal Sparks from the Magnum Opus, Dude,
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  Speaker 1: Where's My Car? And you're listening to Movie Meltdown. It's showtime.
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  Speaker 2: Picture Association of America.
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  Speaker 3: It is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 4: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 5: I need a volunteer from the audience. Someone not afraid
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  Speaker 5: of death. What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm
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  Speaker 5: Brian and this week I'm joined by our special guest co-host,
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  Speaker 5: comedian Yedoya Travis.
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  Speaker 6: Originally from Atlanta, he's really.
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  Speaker 5: Been making a name for himself in the comedy world
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  Speaker 5: as he's relocated to Los Angeles, and more recently, New York.
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  Speaker 5: And amongst all his other accomplishments, soon he'll be featured
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  Speaker 5: on the fourth season of Coming to the Stage on Hulu.
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  Speaker 5: Plus several other projects he's got in the works that
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  Speaker 5: we'll get to later in the show.
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  Speaker 6: But for now, we'll be hanging out together at.
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  Speaker 5: Gallery K, one of our favorite places to record as
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  Speaker 5: of late.
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  Speaker 6: And though it is.
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  Speaker 5: December, it was not too cold, so we decided to
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  Speaker 5: sit out on the back deck and record. Just so
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  Speaker 5: you know, if you hear a dog barking or a
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  Speaker 5: plane fly overhead, that's why. Because you'll join us as
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  Speaker 5: we sit outside, relaxing, drinking our coffee, and talking about comedy, movies,
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  Speaker 5: and magic. So let's get to it.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, man. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 5: And I guess I wanted to, usually with any performers,
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  Speaker 5: I usually try to start off and kind of give
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  Speaker 5: people an intro to them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 5: And then just kind of how they ended up where
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  Speaker 5: they are in the entertainment industry one way or the other.
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  Speaker 5: I guess you're definitely in the comedy scene. Did that
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  Speaker 5: start off that way? Was it something you... As a kid,
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  Speaker 5: were you interested in that end of it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think most of my life was being afraid
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  Speaker 1: to admit to myself that I wanted to do something
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  Speaker 1: so stupid. I think that's... I went through so many
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  Speaker 1: different avenues before I finally was like, if you want
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  Speaker 1: to do stand-up, just do stand-up. I did theater in
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  Speaker 1: high school. I did choir in high school and college.
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to write poetry for a little bit. I've
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  Speaker 1: played that game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Let's not recite those at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But I think you.
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  Speaker 5: Can kind of, again, what I've seen of your comedy
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  Speaker 5: is a little different than what other people do, and
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  Speaker 5: I think I respond to it better because of that,
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  Speaker 5: but I think it does have a little more theatrical
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  Speaker 5: into it than just like set up in bits and,
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  Speaker 5: you know, whatever. I think it's got a little more like,
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  Speaker 5: almost monologue style to it.
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  Speaker 1: I hope so. I always, because I sort of like
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  Speaker 1: all angles of joke writing. So I have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of dumb one-liners that I try to squeeze into what
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  Speaker 1: feels like a monologue, I guess.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's part of it. I think it's sort
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  Speaker 5: of just finding your own rhythm. And I've discussed that
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  Speaker 5: on the comedy ones before. I was like, you can
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  Speaker 5: tell when somebody's like still finding their footing and like,
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  Speaker 5: awkwardly just kind of hammering in these things that they've
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  Speaker 5: obviously pre-written versus somebody that just gets up there and
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  Speaker 5: it's just like.
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  Speaker 1: It flows. It's ridiculous. I feel like I'm just getting
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  Speaker 1: to that point. It's really just that I've lived in
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  Speaker 1: LA and New York for the past two years and
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  Speaker 1: you do so many three-minute sets that you forget how
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  Speaker 1: to do longer ones.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it changes things. Well, that is one I was
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  Speaker 5: going to ask because everybody... I've talked to in comedy
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  Speaker 5: seems like that's a huge part of it is at
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  Speaker 5: some point, once you've decided that's what I'm going to do,
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  Speaker 5: it's time to make the move.
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  Speaker 6: So it's usually one of three.
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  Speaker 5: If you're don't want to go to either coast, you
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  Speaker 5: hit Chicago or it's New York or LA, which are
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  Speaker 5: kind of very different angles and approaches to comedy. So
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  Speaker 5: I guess what led you to make that decision first off?
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  Speaker 5: And then I guess, what's it like where you ended up?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think I was kind of, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to say lucky because it's not really luck, but after
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  Speaker 1: I graduated college, I was two years into stand-up, and
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  Speaker 1: I told my mom I wanted to visit L.A. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because she wanted to give me a graduation present. She
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  Speaker 1: was like, how about a trip to London? I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I've been to London.
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  Speaker 5: London.
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  Speaker 1: Every Nigerian person has been to London. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: send me to L.A. I can see what it's like
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  Speaker 1: and decide if I want to move there someday. And
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  Speaker 1: my mom starts, like, preparing like I'm moving. She's like, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple. Boxing up your shit.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, wait, wait.
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  Speaker 1: It's a couple weeks. I just finished. And so within, like,
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  Speaker 1: a month, I was basically dropped in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And I don't know if you know Wes
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  Speaker 1: Van Horn, but he's a friend of mine. And he
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  Speaker 1: just came and picked me up. And I stayed with
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  Speaker 1: him for a few days. And I lived in L.A.
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  Speaker 1: for a year and a half. Without ever having been there.
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  Speaker 5: Immediately just started kind of working yourself into open mics
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  Speaker 5: or like getting gigs or.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I kind of hit it too hard
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  Speaker 1: when I got to LA. I didn't have the resources
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  Speaker 1: to do what I was doing because I was going
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  Speaker 1: out every single day. I didn't have a car for
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  Speaker 1: the first four months, so I was taking trains like from...
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  Speaker 1: Highland Park, down to Union Station, all the way up
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  Speaker 1: to North Hollywood just to get to work and.
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  Speaker 6: Shit like that. LA is known for its public transit system.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: They're so convenient.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're really good about that.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody drives in LA. It's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no. Lobbyists have never gotten involved with that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. LA was a weird situation. I had a
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  Speaker 1: manager within a couple months of being there, but then
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  Speaker 1: it was just like, Oh wait, you're not ready to
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  Speaker 1: have a manager.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, that is, again, I think that's why
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  Speaker 5: you end up in one of those three cities. Those
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  Speaker 5: are the few cities I feel like you, if you
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  Speaker 5: want to, or if you need to just in that process, you.
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  Speaker 6: Can go do it every night.
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  Speaker 5: Whereas, you know, here you're lucky if you hit a
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  Speaker 5: good show once a week, maybe, you know? So it's
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  Speaker 5: like the guys that are living in smaller places, like
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  Speaker 5: there's only so much practice you can get. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I guess it does kind of throw you into the
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  Speaker 5: fire and, One.
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  Speaker 1: Way or the other. Yeah, well, you sort of start
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  Speaker 1: to realize how much power comedy clubs have to the
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  Speaker 1: point where if one does not exist in a city,
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  Speaker 1: there's no comedy scene. It's crazy. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to do comedy, you do house shows. There's so
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  Speaker 1: many avenues.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we've got like one sort of place here.
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  Speaker 5: And then another one came and went since then. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: now it's funny how many show up.
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  Speaker 6: And like, you know, the guys at Gallery K have
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  Speaker 6: been doing really great at putting stuff together.
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  Speaker 5: But there's a handful of other that are just like
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  Speaker 5: restaurants and the back room in a bar and a
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  Speaker 5: lot of coffee shops.
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  Speaker 6: And it's just kind of like.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, there are plenty of comedy clubs that
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  Speaker 1: should just be restaurants. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Again, I think it's almost a better vibe sometimes. Comedy clubs,
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  Speaker 5: especially the bigger and more corporate they get. It's a
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  Speaker 5: weird scenario. Everyone feels like cattle. The customers definitely, even
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  Speaker 5: the comics, it's just like it's so mechanical at some point.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of weird. When it gets to be such
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  Speaker 1: a machine where it's like, we do comedy here. Do we?
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  Speaker 1: There are the days when it's like, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Could you guys do something else, please?
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  Speaker 6: You guys sell chicken fingers, really.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Overpriced drinks and chicken fingers, truthfully.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I go to some comedy clubs. I'm like, the
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  Speaker 1: food here is so fucking good. Why do you need
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  Speaker 1: this shit? You don't need me. I'm going home.
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  Speaker 6: I take these chicken fingers, but then I'm going home.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Part of me doesn't think
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  Speaker 1: comedy is a good thing.
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  Speaker 6: As a whole, or just as a career venture?
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  Speaker 1: I think... being funny is stupid i think making jokes
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  Speaker 1: is stupid honestly when i see a child cry i'm
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  Speaker 1: like you gotta nip that in the bud what a
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  Speaker 1: child laugh i stopped listening to what i was saying
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  Speaker 1: for a second.
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  Speaker 5: Well i feel like the performance end of it like
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  Speaker 5: i always respond to people that are just sort of
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  Speaker 5: creative or artistic or whatever so i like i get
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  Speaker 5: the performance end of it There are some very creative
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  Speaker 5: types that are also funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But then, yeah, the like trying to do it as
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  Speaker 5: a career is like its own weird little thing that
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  Speaker 5: you have to do.
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  Speaker 6: You know better than most.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't. You have to figure out. I honestly don't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, to put it in perspective, I have had
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  Speaker 1: management for two years now and I'm not doing anything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing shit.
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  Speaker 6: Well, wait, I'm almost in the same boat then.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not doing anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, we're the same guy. on paper. There
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  Speaker 1: you go. A billion years from now, people are going
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  Speaker 1: to look at the two of us and be like,
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  Speaker 1: what's the difference?
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  Speaker 5: We'll all be gone.
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  Speaker 1: What difference does it make?
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  Speaker 5: All we have are our geeky things that we hold
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  Speaker 5: on to.
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  Speaker 6: So, we were trying to pin that down earlier.
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  Speaker 5: What also led you into your geeky interests?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, man. I.
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  Speaker 1: I watched three channels growing up. It was Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon,
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  Speaker 1: and Comedy Central.
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  Speaker 5: Those are all important steps in a child's development.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much. I remember staying up till midnight to watch
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  Speaker 1: Toonami all night.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: I stayed up to watch the first night of Adult
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  Speaker 1: Swim ever.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: And now they sort of run their own little industry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Run their own little town with no women in it.
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  Speaker 1: It's great.
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  Speaker 5: They take it a little back.
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  Speaker 6: Rightfully so, I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: One of mine, and I just remembered it because it
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  Speaker 5: was recently Thanksgiving and they were running the, I remember
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  Speaker 5: that first like year that I ended up with cable
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  Speaker 5: and had comedy central and they just had picked up
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  Speaker 5: mystery science theater.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And it was like a late night thing. Like it
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  Speaker 6: was just like, and.
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  Speaker 5: It was such a weird little communal, but we were
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  Speaker 5: all in our own little home. Again, it was before
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  Speaker 5: the internet really had taken hold. And like, That was
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  Speaker 5: the way all the geeks, like we were all sitting
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  Speaker 5: there in front of our TV at the same time
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  Speaker 5: and this like ridiculously funny thing was going on. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I remember attaching to that pretty early on and kind
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  Speaker 5: of that same thing of like, wow, I can't believe
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  Speaker 5: I found this, and I can't believe some network's putting
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  Speaker 5: this on, even if it's a low-end version.
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  Speaker 1: Especially then.
• 11:45
  Speaker 5: They were pretty low-rent back then.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they're redoing it now.
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  Speaker 6: It's coming back now.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never actually got into it when it was
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  Speaker 1: on the air. Sorry, Jonah Ray. That guy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I have high hopes for it.
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  Speaker 5: Again, there's a lot of people giving him shit now
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  Speaker 5: just because, you know, nobody likes new things.
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  Speaker 6: Geeks fear change.
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  Speaker 5: But that's such a great cast. Jonah aside, like, the
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  Speaker 5: rest of that cast is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jonah's amazing.
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  Speaker 6: And Jonah loves it.
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  Speaker 5: That's the thing. I'm like, it'd be different if it
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  Speaker 5: was just somebody that got shoved into it, but... He
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  Speaker 5: grew up watching it, too.
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  Speaker 6: Like, he is one of the fans.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. He's one of those people. Yeah. Oh, there's real passion.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Which is kind of what you need to make
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  Speaker 5: something like that work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: It's so geeky. Like, you kind of need that much,
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  Speaker 5: you know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like doing a remake of anything now. You
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  Speaker 1: have to be such a brave person.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, and you see so many that are sort
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  Speaker 5: of phoned in. Any of the, again, as we'll get
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  Speaker 5: into movies, there's so many where they'll just brand something.
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  Speaker 6: Like, here's a name. People have heard this before.
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  Speaker 5: And then, again, it's the corporate thing where they're just like,
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  Speaker 5: here's the stamp.
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  Speaker 6: Now do whatever you want.
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  Speaker 5: And it's a bunch of people who've never seen the
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  Speaker 5: original or could care less about the original.
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  Speaker 6: And it just kind of sucks.
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  Speaker 5: It's different when you have somebody from the beginning that's
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  Speaker 5: passionate about it.
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  Speaker 1: And actually cares. Because you have to watch it. The
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  Speaker 1: entire time you're growing up, even. To really get a
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  Speaker 1: grasp of it. Because you can't just look at the
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  Speaker 1: Wikipedia page.
• 13:13
  Speaker 5: One episode, you still are just like, who are these?
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  Speaker 5: Why is that vacuum cleaner talking? Like, you're just like,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 6: But, yeah, there's such running jokes there throughout.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, once you get into.
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  Speaker 1: It, you're just like. Yeah, it's like Pee Wee's Playhouse
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  Speaker 1: for nerds.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, Lord.
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  Speaker 7: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: As that was for nerds.
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  Speaker 6: That was, yeah. A whole new generation of kids attached
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  Speaker 6: to that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. What a good movie that was, the new one.
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  Speaker 5: Well, actually, was it the Netflix? Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, with Joe Manganiello.
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  Speaker 5: I love Big Adventure, but it's one of those I
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: love Pee Wee, and there's just too many things, and
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  Speaker 5: I haven't gotten to it yet.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a hard thing to justify keeping up with.
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  Speaker 5: I've seen most of the episodes of The Playhouse. Not recently, but,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I kept up with Pee Wee as best
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  Speaker 5: I could.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I watched, last one I watched, maybe
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  Speaker 1: Chaka Khan was on it? I forget. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: current episode. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Where is she at these days?
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. She's just shocking and conning.
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: Still looks good, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. I remember in the 90s hearing Jay Anthony Brown
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: talk about her peach butt.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's all you need, man.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, dude. So there's magic in his mind Reflecting
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  Speaker 7: in his.
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  Speaker 4: Eyes It's that mystery that draws.
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  Speaker 1: Me to you It's the.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of voodoo's hard to find.
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  Speaker 4: The little gypsy in his smile It's coming.
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  Speaker 1: Abracadabra, I sit on his knee. Presto, change-o, and now
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• 15:35
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  Speaker 2: and you can take a look at all the geek-friendly
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: products they have to offer.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Tyler Mesa, my director of the film An Honest Liar,
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  Speaker 5: and you are listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: You want to know why?
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: It's time for Sofa Theatre.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Shoot me.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: No, I can't shoot. Do it!
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: How'd you like that?
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: How'd you do it?
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  Speaker 2: Magic.
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  Speaker 3: I'll perform this feat in a manner never before seen
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  Speaker 3: by yourselves or any other audience anywhere in the world.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: The audience loved it.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: This trick is top notch.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: We need to celebrate.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: A real magician tries to invent something new.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: It's something that other magicians will scratch their heads over.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I suppose you have such a trick.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: That's your thing?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: It's the one they're gonna remember me for.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: What happened?
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  Speaker 3: It was the greatest magic trick I've ever seen.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I need to know how he does it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: He has no trick.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: It's real.
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  Speaker 3: Every great magic trick consists of three acts. The first
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: act is called the pledge. The magician shows you something ordinary,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: but of course, it probably isn't. The second act is
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: called the turn.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: He's obsessed with discovering your method.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: The magician makes this ordinary something do something extraordinary. Now
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: you're looking for the secret, but you won't find it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: That's why there's a third act called The Prestige. This
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: is the part with the twists and turns, where lives
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: hang in the balance.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Joey, come on!
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: And you see something shocking you've never seen before. This
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: was built by a man who can actually do what
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: magicians pretend to do.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Real magic.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I know what you really are!
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: How does he do it?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: You want the truth.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: Nothing is impossible.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: Oh, oh, oh, it's magic, you know. Never believe it's
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: not so. It's magic, you know. Never believe it's not so.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Alright, I guess we can get to the movie. Usually
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I'll do a little intro here, so... Yeah, okay.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Let's see what you got.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: This week's Sofa Theater feature is The Prestige.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: The year is 2006. The director, Christopher Nolan. And I
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: just found out Google will tell you the description. You
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: want to do that? Because that's my favorite new thing.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that. I've watched this movie so many
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: times and still don't get it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Google.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite thing is robot voices.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: The thing I love about this movie is that it
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: is impossible for me to take it seriously.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And it's such a tragic movie.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it takes itself very seriously, which I think comes
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: into play. So I guess we'll get back to that later.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: I guess first we should say, spoiler alert, if you're
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: not familiar with this.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Which it's surprising. You've had 10 years to watch it. Well,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that's the thing.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: It's surprising that this has already hit its 10-year anniversary.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: But we're going to ruin the hell out of it.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: So just go watch it. Come back to the show
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: after you've.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Finished watching it. You've been warned.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: I think what I was going to start with was
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: the fact that I feel like this is also the
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: forgotten Christopher Nolan movie. Especially since he got popular. From
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Batman Begins On, everything has been huge except the prestige.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: Even when it came out.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll ask most people and they'll be like, yeah,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I love that movie.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Do you remember that movie?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Where were you when Chris needed you?
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: Do you remember that movie?
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the one that has that one guy in it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: What was the.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Because that's the other thing I feel like it's known
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: for is it's one of those scenarios where it came
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: out the same year as another movie that's almost the same.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, The Magician. They came out in the same... What
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: was that?
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: The Illusionist?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, The Illusionist.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the Ed Norton.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: That's the one I was like.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Even when over the years I've been like, now wait,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: which one is the one that's got It was like.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman's in one of them.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: I know Christian Bale, but I couldn't even remember if
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: they were in the same or if they were in
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: dueling ones. So over the years, I think that's part
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: of the issue.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm, I don't know if this is true,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: but I've just invented a scenario where people separated into
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: camps or like there's a prestige camp and an illusionist camp.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: I feel like at the time, like that year, because
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: it didn't get much love after that. So I feel
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: like that year, people were just like, well, I'm only
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: going to see one.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who's going to watch two magic movies?
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: Probably not in the theaters either. So as they were
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: renting it, they were like, well, I'm going to watch
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: this one or this one. So I feel like this.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: One is definitely way more high profile. No offense to,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: what was his name? I wrote it down. Neil Berger,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: the director of that one. But I feel like this
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: one has a bigger cast. No offense to Ed Norton
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: or Jessica Biel, but Scarlett Johansson's in this. And not
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: even in huge roles. I'm like, that shows kind of
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: just how big she's taken off in 10 years. But it's, yeah,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: I feel like this is the higher profile director. This
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: is the more impressive names as far as the cast goes.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: So I haven't gotten to the other one either. I
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: guess it's on the list too. I'll get around to
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: it at some point.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Y'all remember Memento?
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: That, for me, that was the entry. Like, I didn't
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: see Following until later. So, Memento was the one that
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: I went, oh, shit. And I was like, and who
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: is this guy that made this? Because this thing's amazing.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: This is another Christopher Nolan.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: And that was, yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: So, for me, that was my intro to Nolan. But
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I still feel like, for most mainstream people, it's just, oh, Batman.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: We like Batman.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: But, like, everything after that, it's like, he only did
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: one movie in between each Batman.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: The other one is, like, the biggest thing in the
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: world at the time.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: So, it's like.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Everything else took off for him, but not the old prestige.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. I did a project for a film
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: class on Christopher Nolan, and to this day, I've still
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: not seen Memento. You should. I focused on Memento, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I've not seen it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: If you like this one, I think you definitely... It
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: is funny. Watching this, you can see kind of both
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: ends of it. You see... You see the Batman version
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: of Christopher Nolan where, okay, I want it to be
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: kind of realistic and I want to strip down all
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: of the mythos that Batman had. It's like I kind
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: of want to make it as real world as I
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: can even though it's kind of a ridiculous idea. It's
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: like let's make it as close to the real world
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: as possible.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: And then that's sort of what he does here.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: It's like of all the magic in quotes, it's like
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: it's as real world as you can get up.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: To a point.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: And then like from that point, it's like it switches
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: to the other is the memento version of him.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: Which is just like crazy editing.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Tons of like telling a weird woven story in a
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: way that most people aren't used to.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: But still never gets too fantastical.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: It's never.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: It's still grounded.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Even in the prestige when, when it's like, oh, this
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: is real magic on the table. You never feel like
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it's in your face. It's never Harry Potter magic. You know, it's,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: There's no Patronuses in this movie.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Even then, there might not be real magic, which I
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: guess we can... Again, I don't know what to... As
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: far as the normal little beats along the way, like
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: some movies you can just discuss, you know, plot by
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: plot kind of stuff. This one is almost like you
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: wait till the end and then you just have grand discussions. Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: And that's kind of all I have with this one.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is still... You can really see.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Like if you watch this movie and you're like, oh yeah,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the guy that made Memento did this. You're like, oh yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I get it. Because it's still got the, well, I mean,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it's just got those crazy edits. You don't really know
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: what happened when if you're not paying close attention.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Well, and you're kind of not supposed to know until
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: the end.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Because as it all comes together, you're like, oh, okay,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: now the timeline sort of falls into place. And you're like, well,
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: that's why he was reading this.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Because we also have those dueling journals where they're both
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: reading the other's journal at different times. And then to
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: add to the weird levels, it's also kind of a
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: made up version of a journal because they're both.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Supposed to be reading it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Spoilers as you get to the end.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: It's kind of, even if it's, and that kind of
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: throws a little like.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: How much of that is real?
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Like since they both know they're making up whatever they want.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly. It's like how.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: It could all be made up.
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: How deep does this really go where you both know
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the other is going to read your journal, but neither
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of you thinks that the other one would be doing
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that to you. But you are.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: And only we are the ones to know what all's
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: going on.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: This invisible audience is the only one that knows what's
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: going on.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like through all that discussion, we've
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: disclosed nothing about this movie.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Which, yeah, again, that's why I'm like, watch it beforehand
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: because all we're going to ask is big questions. You'll
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: piece the story together when you watch it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I will say before we get into the big questions,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: my favorite line in this whole movie is by David Bowie.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: It's in the scene where he.
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: That's all you need, really.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It's the scene where Hugh Jackman is out And he discovers, like,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: this pile of hats. And then there's all the clone
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: cats and everything. And he picks up a hat and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: he goes, which one's mine? And David Bowie goes, they're
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: all your hats, Mr. Angier.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, to jump ahead, like, that performance, just him
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: as a guy. And that was one of those, like,
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Nolan fought to bring him in. Like, he sent him
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: the offer and he originally said no. Because he kind
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: of quit doing movies.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: At that point.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah. He, like, over years, like, kept going, no, really,
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: this is the only way I envision this. Like, you're
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: the only one that's kind of weird enough and has
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: charisma and, like, can fulfill what I need in this
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: one specific part.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, he, like, flew out and convinced him, like, no,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: I can't make this movie if you're not him. Yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, when he died, I thought of this movie
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: before I thought of his music. I was like, no,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Tesla died.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: That's the other. I've for years been kind of oddly
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: obsessed with Tesla anyway, like as a person. And I
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: love that this movie is sort of Team Tesla because
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: that's where I'm at.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: You see the other end of it and what a jackass.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Our rival. If you want to call him an inventor,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: I think he's a hack.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're talking about your boy Edison? Yeah, yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: He stole all Tesla's ideas and.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: He was just a better businessman and he patented everything.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: The visionary genius has always been Tesla. So to me,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: I I'm always like interested in that. So I love
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: seeing this, like mostly rooted in realism. Like he really
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: did a lot of this stuff. He really did those
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: experiments in that little Colorado town. So like a lot
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: of that is based in reality. And then he throws a,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: we're assuming entirely fictional story in the middle. Yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Is it like the whole world's fair scenario that,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, that really happened. Yeah. As real, most of
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: But yeah, his performance is, again, it's almost bigger than X.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be kind of a one-off,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: because people will almost refer to it as a cameo.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: I'm like, he's got like three scenes.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd think so. He's important.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: He's pretty solid. Yeah, he's definitely an important character, but
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: it's still a good amount of screen time, too.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Other than the Tesla performance, there's also the weird, while
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: we're doing the structuring of it, the wraparound Michael Caine narrative.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Which is also kind of like how you don't know
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: when it's coming from as you're watching it initially.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: It's only at the very end you're like, well, this
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: is kind of time-wise, this is the last thing that happens.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: It really is after the fact of everything. But you
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: don't know that until you get to the very end
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: of the movie.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Even though we're seeing little cut pieces from the very
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: beginning of the first couple of shots, we see him
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: doing the bird trick. Yeah. So all of that really
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: comes after everything's already over with. But at the same time,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: it cuts in like maybe some of it is him
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: telling the story on the stand when the trial.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Is going on.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: So it's like you get all these bits and pieces
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: of him Sort of telling the story, but again, how
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: reliable a.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: Witness is he as well?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: He's in court.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: He's in court.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: He's a weird, crazy old magic dude too. Who knows
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: what you can rely on in this guy.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Exactly. What secrets can he disclose?
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Again, everything about it structurally, which really for all
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: of that, it doesn't feel that weird. To me, Memento,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: and again, definitely go watch it. Memento, you feel... like
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: you're watching something in a film class.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Like it's very jarring and it's planned.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: And like, you feel like you're part of this little
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: experiment that Christopher Nolan's doing with this. Like it's not
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: that many movies later, but like he's sort of found
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: his footing as like a little smoother, more mainstream director.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: And so like it, it feels a little smoother going
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: into it. Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: It's sort of like he's refined that storytelling technique from
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Memento where it's like, it can actually be a little
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: bit more cohesive and you actually understand what's going on.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: He just likes doing that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Because then I was thinking two of the three Batman
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: are like that. Like Batman Begins has the weird, like
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: we start with him as Batman and then get these
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: little flashbacks of him doing the whole trip and all
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: the training. And then I was like The Dark Knight
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Rises is like that too. It's like we get that
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: whole flashback story of the kid and And the escape
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: and all of that. So, like, really, Dark Knight's kind
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: of the only one that's, like, a straight through. I
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: don't remember a ton of flashback stuff.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Maybe a little with the bats in the cave, but.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what? I'm not going to be critical
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: or anything, Chris. But, I mean, it's your best movie
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: so far.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Which one?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Prestige? Or Dark Knight? Dark Knight.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Dark Knight's.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: It's one of those. Or most successful.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: I feel like it's.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's. great.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: I feel like, if anything, it's probably overly long.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: I've said before, I feel like the whole boat scenario
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: at the end just kind of drags. You can take
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: a good 15-20 minutes out of that end part and
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: just tighten it up a little, but everything else dealing
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: with the Joker is kind of amazing, and obviously the performance,
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: so it's like everything else is pretty impressive.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I watched that movie when I was 17, I think.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: That's one of the.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: That's one of very few movies that I really remember
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: seeing in theaters.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And, like, I remember my first time watching it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Watching the truck flip.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was amazing on the big screen.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: Especially when they really did that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: It wasn't CG. Exactly. And now I loved every part
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: of it then, except for one part, which is when
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Harvey Dent is in the back of this guy's car.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I forget who.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Right after he turns to Two-Face.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Right after he turns to Two-Face.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: And.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I forget... Oh, he, like, flips the coin to decide, like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: if he's gonna kill this guy.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I forget how, like, this line goes.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: But.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Basically, he, like, he just really broadcasts what he's doing
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: rather than just, like... He shoots the driver instead of
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the guy.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: But he just says... oh, he basically was like, oh yeah,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot your driver. And then he shoots
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the driver. You could have just shot him and then
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the car flips and you know.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Again, if there's a weak point in that movie, I
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: feel like they, for as much time as they spend,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: because I'll go back to that all the time of
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: like a rich villain in a superhero movie because there's a.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: Lot of really bad ones lately. But like that Joker,
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: they spend so much time with him.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: They really let him, you know, Heath Ledger develops that
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: character on screen.
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: I'm assuming off.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: He did tons of work. But like, Two-Face just gets
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: thrown at the end. And I'm like, that's kind of
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: an important villain too. And I think he could have
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: had his own movie. I feel like they rushed that
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: so much, especially since they cap it off the way
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: they do. It's like if we were going to then
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: have another continued movie somewhere down the.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: Line, which no one didn't plan on doing, I guess.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: But still, I feel like that's.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Also a really rich character that gets sort of rushed.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Shoved in there.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so much room for like, just for exploration
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: of that dichotomy of him as Harvey Dent and him
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: as Two-Face. But it's just so hard to do with
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: superhero movies because there are so many people that, so
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: many characters that people know, and they're like, well, why
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: didn't you put this guy in the movie? Why didn't
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you put him in the movie? Geeks need to shut up. Exactly.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: Let somebody make a good movie.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The only one I was surprised about was Dark
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Knight Rises, like, why Bane? Yeah. He's cool, but it's like,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: he's not a, He's not a prime time Batman character.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Again, I think it's going more with the newer, like
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: they keep trying to do that with all of them.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Like same thing with like the Spider-Man movies. It's like, oh,
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: we got to work in Venom. Like we got to
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: do a more recent.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Like, well, you've got to, I mean, if anybody has
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: a rogues.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Gallery, it's Spider-Man. And like, no, let's pull the most
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: recent and the one that appeals to the teenagers that
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: like grew up on it recently.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: So it's like.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I think they always just kind of drag, well, it's
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: going to bring in more recent kids because kids are money.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think that's part of it. Yeah, and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I think they're doing a good job of it. I
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: grew up not really watching or not really reading comic books.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I got sucked in by the X-Men animated series.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: We've discussed that recently.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: One of the guys on the show loved that series.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: It's good.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: And, I mean, that's what it was made for. And
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: it worked on me.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: A lot of those animated ones again the Batman animated
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: series is still one of the best shows like not
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: just animated shows like it's better written than most television
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: period exactly so it's like again they could do a
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: lot of really solid stuff with the animated.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Stuff yeah exactly like that Spider-Man.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: Those animated ones were good too like they had a
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: good run in that like 90s into the early 2000s
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: like they did a lot of really solid stuff with
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: those animated shows and sucked all of us in obviously.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure It's weird how Marvel is so good
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: at cartoon series, but they haven't really put out a
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: lot of cartoon movies that were great.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: DC's doing better. They can't make a live action movie
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: to save their life.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: But their animated stuff, the ones that go straight to
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: streaming now, not even straight to DVD usually, but those
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: are really good.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: We've seen any of those. The Flashpoint one is really great,
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: and a lot of those.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: They can do solid stuff as far as animated, but
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: can't make life.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: They keep trying. They're aping Marvel as best they can,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: and they're still.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Doing it wrong. Yeah. I mean, just get old Chris
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: on all of it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: Well, he was even involved last time, and it didn't
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: help because Zack Snyder keeps screwing everything up.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: There's your problem, Zack Snyder.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck with that boy.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Chris really just boot that guy to the side at
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: least some of the series they're handing off now it's
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: like we have a different director on Wonder Woman we
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: have a different Drew well now I guess we have
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Batman directing his own movie next time around so yeah
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: oh yeah that'll that'll that's better than Zack Snyder doing
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: it so excited for like a Jason Mewes cameo.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Oh god.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: We've had enough of those haven't we yeah as a
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: whole life no offense to Jason but hey more power
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: to him hang in there he's.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Had a rough life but look you just don't you
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: just don't belong in some places.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: We saw you in Scream 3 it didn't make any
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: sense please don't do it again alright Prestige so we
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: sidetracked on superheroes which I do a lot I.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Realize that oh man I could talk about it all day.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Now you're looking for the secret but you won't find
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: it because of course you're not really looking You don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: really want to work it out.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: You want to be fooled.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I was like, the weird flashback thing seems
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: to be something that Nolan likes to do anyway, so
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: this falls right into his comfort zone of how to
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: write a story, how to structure things.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I like it because it's kind
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: of the way I like to write comedy, is where,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: like he never does like a, five years later or
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: five years back, like the little tagline.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: I heard he got that from Terrence Malick, like watching
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Thin Red Line where he does like those, you know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: they're walking through the middle of a war zone and
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: then it just, no wavy lines, no clouds, it just
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: immediately cuts to, you know, the girl back home that
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: he's thinking about and like there is no big fancy
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: thing hey, guess what? This is a cutaway scene. It's
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: just like you piece it together as the viewer.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Or you don't. Tough luck. I don't care. If you
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: can't follow along, get out. Yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: I think he publicly has stated that's pretty much where
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: I saw that and went, oh, I like that.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Just see it keep coming up in his.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Work now, too. Yeah, I'm a big fan of not
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: spoon-feeding things.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, again, I think that's part of the problem with
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: things as.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: They get bigger and bigger and we have to dumb
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: them down for the masses.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: Nolan's never done that. Even when he's making huge, huge
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: movies with Inception.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: Inception is so complicated.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: And it made a lot of money.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Like that's the part that amazes me is like it
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: was a huge.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Summer movie yeah it's not based on a comic but
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: it's his original concept.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Well it is based on a Donald Duck comic strip
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: well no.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Scrooge McDuck I mean that guy got into some crazy
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: adventures yeah DuckTales come on guys another animated show that
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: one actually again good writing yeah good show All right, so,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: but yeah, I feel like he can do these super
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: complicated things and not dumb it down. Even to the
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: point where I'm like, sometimes it's its own flaw, but
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't, because I think what was the other,
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: in Interstellar, there's some problems at the end of Interstellar there,
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: but I'm just like, I kind of don't care, just because,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: I'll just give him credit.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: Like, I don't give him a pass. I still have issues.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: With it, but.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: Just points for doing your own thing.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so ambitious.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: I always give him credit for just doing whatever the
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: hell he wants to do. That's always impressive, even if
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's still kind of a misfire, but
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: points to you for not caving to whatever the studio
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: probably would do.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I can't imagine what kind of concessions he
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: did make.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, really, some of the stuff he gets away
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: with in a lot of these, even in his big,
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: goofy superhero movies, I'm just like... That last one is really.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: Long and super complicated.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: What did you want to do?
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: A villain and another villain that you don't know is
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: the villain. It's a bomb driving around a city. I'm like,
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: you had to have some sort of studio heads going, wait, what?
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: If you weren't Christopher Nolan, I would cut this.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Budget in a second.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: He's at least gotten to the point he has a
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: little power. That's, I guess, good for artistic freedom anyway.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: I was going to at least go into some of
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: the bigger questions here.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: So as we get back to.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: The Tesla thing, as we get to that inclusion of Tesla,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: is he really making this machine?
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: That is one of those you're like, is this actual science?
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: Because that's the thing. There really isn't any magic in
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: this movie. At the most, it's a lot of really
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: good trickery, even to the point of a double, an actual.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Human being double. It's a twin. Yeah.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: Surprise, it's a twin. And then the only thing that's sort.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Of mystical is still based 100% in science, to the
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: point you have one of the most well-known scientists in
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: the world creating it.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Well, is it? Is it? It sort of begs the question, is...
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Were his real life accomplishments all science? You know? It
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: makes you wonder.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Again, I do kind of like that it leaves it
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: super gray. And you're just like, you can kind of
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: go either way. It's like, well, is there any cloning
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: and this is all part of Nolan messing with us?
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Or even in the.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Real world, it's like, was Tesla just, was he.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: The magician involved?
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, it's not even like, it's weird because it's
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: not really cloning per se because he He replicates these hats, too.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And you gotta have DNA for cloning. Maybe it's just
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: a big.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Living hats.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Just a big 3D printer.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: See, once again... Well, and that's when I was thinking,
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: especially as we got... It sort of has a superhero tie-in, too.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: I'm like, is this.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Again, we're still using, quote, magic.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Like, is magic, even in any scenario, is magic that
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: seems real, is it just science that we don't understand yet?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: And that's like something that, and I went back to
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: that because recently I was kind of knocking Thor, but like, again,
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: that's kind of that same thing. Is Thor a mystical
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: God from, you know, the wherever, or is he just
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: from another planet? And the stuff that they do is
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: so far advanced beyond us that it seems like he's
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: a God. It seems like it's superpowers and magic, but
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: really it's all science in their world. But we're so,
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Behind them, we don't really get it yet.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: It kind of makes me wonder.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: Because to me, looking at what Tesla, in the real world,
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: not even the movie, in the real world, what Tesla
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: was doing to people in the 1800s was almost extraterrestrial.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's literally taken us almost 200 years before
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: people get it. Oh yeah, Tesla was doing the right thing.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, the fact that people are still lighting their
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: house with candles in an entire mountain.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Town, because I think he really did all that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: He did that trade-off with them to be able to
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: run tests. So he lit up with electricity that he created,
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: screw you Edison, that he created this entire lit electrical
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: town that nobody had ever seen that before. Even our
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: well-traveled magician, he's like, whoa, the whole town's got electricity?
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: So again, to think that just from that 1800s perspective,
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: it was just.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Like, wait, what?
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: What all was he doing that we don't even know about?
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: The fact that he's creating electricity and radio and everything
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: that came along at that point, he's kind of got
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: his finger in, to some extent, as it expands. So again,
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: how mystical a dude was this?
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It's like, where... I mean, if anything, if
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: there's an argument for time travel, you know... He's a
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: futuristic man.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: The machine we didn't get to there. The one over
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: in the corner that didn't get burned down. He just
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: took it with him and traveled back in time and
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: killed Edison.
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: Wait.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: No. Oh, dude. If only.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: That would have thrown off.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Our whole timeline. This is complicated.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Shit, man.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what a wild movie.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, I mean, it does leave us with those
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: questions at the end of, like, is this actually, like,
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: a duplicate of Hugh Jackman?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: And is.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: That's the one thing I've said that's sort of either
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: a plot hole or, once again, Nolan just leaving these
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: big empty spaces for us to fill in.
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: Why would he keep killing.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Them every night rather than doing two and just doing
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: basically the same scenario? Once he made one version of himself,
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: couldn't he just do the exact same thing?
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Well, because the whole thing is about one-upping the other guy.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: To the point of murdering a ton of people.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean, there is no explanation for where
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: these bodies are going. So I think that more than.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: Anything is a problem. Just a bunch of blind guys
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: hauling them off at the end of the night.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Shh, don't ask any questions. Oh, yeah, I forgot about
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: that part.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't re-watch the movie.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: I forgot. I was going back through some of this,
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, well, that is what they
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: were doing at the end, but then I think some
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: of them, they were just taking and dumping in that
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: theater where they end up at the end, which is why.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: You see the one still in the tank at the end.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: I'm like, so they weren't even burying them or burning them,
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: or they were just dumping them in the old abandoned
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: theater down the street?
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: And now that's because I think the whole blind thing....
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Those are the worst stagehands ever.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean they don't know it's a body.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: You would hope they're not stupid.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You got to be smart enough to be like, oh,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I got to get rid of this.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: Why am I an accessory? You're not paying me that well, dude.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But I think, I mean, he's got to
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: do the same trick over and over. And you got
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to really, I don't know, you got to really create
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: that new person, I guess. Or else, I mean, you're
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: just backtracking into the same trick that... that Borden was doing.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: And then we have this loose end, because we never
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: really see what happens to the other guy, right? Because
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: he already found a duplicate of him that looked pretty
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: much like him, because it was played by him.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Well, it was his brother.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, no, the Hugh Jackman finds that other
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: guy in the bar.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, right, right, right, yeah.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, so we've already got a duplicate, really,
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: that we've played this game.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: He just got a little power hungry.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: So I was like, maybe that's the reason is, So
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: they don't start to become kind of conscious of what's
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: going on.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: And they want to get into that same dynamic of, wait,
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: I'm the real magician. You're just my copy. So, again,
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: I think that is maybe the only argument that you
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: could have. Whichever version is left is the only one
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: in charge. You don't have a little power play.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Exactly. You have full control of the whole situation.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: But did we ever see what happened to that? They
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: got rid of him because he got... I don't remember now.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Honestly.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: Because then by the end, I've heard that as a
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: theory of that was part of it, is he staged it.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: There hadn't really been any clones along the way. He
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: staged it with that other guy, and then had him
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: kill off that guy, and then... frame his rival at
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: the same time while killing the other guy and then
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: he gets to live on as the creepy old man with.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: The stump leg.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: Again, that's another theory I've heard thrown out there. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: like that there isn't a definitive answer.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: I like all the weird theories.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that really fucks up. just as humans we
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: want a conclusion and maybe there just isn't one maybe
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: there just isn't.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: One see I kind of like when it's like that
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: and I think that comes into play too especially because
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: it's Nolan if it was a lesser director but I
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: think the fact that even by the end of it
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: the quote is you want to be fooled Like, I
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: think it's part of the game. I think to some
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: extent he's playing with us just as much as the
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: musicians on stage.
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: It's like, as the director, I'm in charge of everything
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: I shoot.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: I'm going to edit the hell out of this so
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: that you don't really know what's going on until it's
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: too late. And then by the time we get to
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: the end, what difference does it make?
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: Because I put on my show for you.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: And you've been entertained.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: So, like, I feel like there's a little bit of
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: that going on. Yeah.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: See, that in music is tone painting. You sing a
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: high note and the... You sing the word high, the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: note is high. It's the same shit. And I feel
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: like so much more impressive to do as a director
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and actually trick someone. while telling them that they're being tricked.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when you've admitted it from almost the very first frame,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: you're just like, by the way, this is how magic works.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: And magic in movies is called editing.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: And yeah, this, I didn't want to see what the,
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: actually I was just looking up other stuff and I
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: ran across, there's 146 time jump cuts.
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: In this movie.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: 146 times that it jumps back and forth in time
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: to different little scenarios and clips.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: Jesus Christ.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: So I was just like, that's somebody who's messing with
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: the audience a little bit.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not, I mean, he knows what he's doing
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: at that point.
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: 145 cuts.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine. Maybe it's a fluke.
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: But six, well, we've gone too far.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: But I think it is one of those, like, to him,
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: that's the magic, in quotes, is like the fact that
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: he has the power to mess with you as the
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: audience and he can convince you whatever you see so
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: by the end again it's like we have no real
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: reliable witnesses we're reading journals that were made up for
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: the other guy it's all made you know made possible
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: by this machine by a mystical man that lives in
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: the woods right now until they burn his house down
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: so it's like it's all so unreliable that again i
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: think by the end it is just like what.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: Do you want it to be like i made this
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: movie you have fun with it Exactly.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: Shows over.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: Curtain.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I totally forgot about the fucking brother in disguise. Well, yeah.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: Again, that's the Batman Begins version. That's him grounding, like,
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: there's no magic. It's a dude with a twin brother,
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: which supposedly is what they used to do in the
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: real world when they did this disappearing man and he
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: reappears over there. It's a set of brothers. That is
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: not that far-fetched. And it's funny how much I didn't
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: totally think of that ahead. I did think that guy
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: looked like he was wearing a lot of makeup the
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: whole time.
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, I don't know who that guy is yet.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: I know something's up with that weird guy because he's
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: wearing way too much makeup.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anybody that doesn't say anything, I'm like, all right,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: something's going on here.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: And he's just sort of loitering around behind him. And
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: I'm like, that guy's not rich. Why does he have
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: a little manservant following him around all the time? The
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: other one was rich.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Why do you have this prop of a person?
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: That just sort of hangs around.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Leads to a really weird, again, I didn't think about
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: it until they got to the very end of the story.
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: I'm like, so he wasn't cheating on her. The other
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: brother was with Carla Johansson the whole time. They split
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: it up and it's like two entirely separate lives, but
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: when they were together, they had to trade off and
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: be a different character. But yeah, he was never even
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: cheating on her.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: And the wife killed herself.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: So everybody ruined their lives. Yeah, oh man.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: So yeah, that's another one I think I'd seen is
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: like how much by the end it's like, okay, does
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: he really win? Like sure he shoots him, but like
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: your brother's dead, your wife's dead.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: You've lost everything.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: You've lost your entire career.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: Like everything's gone now, but you really one-upped him.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. So many distractions. I spent the whole movie like,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: why does this guy love your daughter so much?
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Why is he so nice to her?
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: He really is into your daughter.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: To me, I got more of a creepy vibe. I'm like,
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: why are you leaving that dude with your daughter?
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: I'm like, what kind of parent are you? Let's have
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: a talk.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: This is not the way you operate as a dad.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a weird man.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: But later, it didn't matter.
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, well.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: It's part of the family. It's all cool.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I think by the end, and even before
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: it was done, I don't think I got to the
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: bigger questions like this till the end.
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: Midway in, I'm just like, this isn't even a movie
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: about magic. It's just obsession. It's just obsession and revenge.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: That's all it is, is a weird little thriller about
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: obsession and revenge that happens to take place in magic.
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: It's so just a weird.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what was the line?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Obsession is a young man's game.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, uh-huh.
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's... And I'm like, okay, and I'm
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: out of here.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: And that was the point I think I was, like,
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: when the fact that one of them is, like, just
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: gotten shot, because he's laying there bandaged up shot. The
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: other one crips his way in with a limp because he, like,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: both of them had just gotten pretty badly injured in
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: the middle of, like, one-upping this guy.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, okay, you're not really one-upping.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who wins you?
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: You're almost going to get killed every time you do it.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, even with the cloning shit, it's like, who
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: ends up in the box? You might kill yourself.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: And he kind of did.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: Like, if you believe that scenario, if that's real, he
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: was the one doing the production every time. So it's like,
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: if it's a cloning machine, he's killing the real version
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: of him at that moment, and a new clone pops
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: out over there.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the machine, like, it doesn't necessarily leave
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: the object in the machine in the machine. So it might,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: it could be that the new.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: I thought each time he was just, he has himself
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: was dropping through the floor and drowning and in that
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: moment creating a new version of himself to carry on
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: with the exact same brain.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's part of the conflict is that
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know who will end up in the box.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: So I think sometimes it literally does transport him away
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: and then the clone appears where he was standing. So it's,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's too complicated. I feel like that
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: is not really explained.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: We have to ask the cat. Cat's the only one
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: that really knows.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the hat.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: You talk to the hat.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: A thousand hats. They're all your hat.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: The hat shot was pretty cool. And again, that's one
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: of those, that opening shot is the prestige of the movie, basically.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: And he's from the get-go. The title sequence is just like, yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: watch this. In a little while, this is going to
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: blow your mind.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: What are all these fucking hats about, dude?
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: Looks crazy, huh?
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: Well, it's not just for effect. Wait till we get
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: into the movie.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: So it does kind of right from the get-go sort
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: of give you that little tip of the, I'd say hat,
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: but that's all right.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: You said it.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: It's out there. But then we also get the sequence
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: with the cat. And then like, so you do see
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: it kind of work, I guess, if you're buying that
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: weird perspective.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, then it's like, okay, well, Again,
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: it's like, what do.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: You do with.
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: Does it transport?
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: And again, I like that there's no science enough to
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: it to figure out that, oh, it does it over
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: there a couple yards.
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: They kept going, oh, this machine don't work.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know where the fuck it ends up.
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: Sorry we took all your money. Oh, wait, look at
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: all this shit in the yard.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They never really explain how they... triangulate the positioning,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: so he ends up in the theater every time.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: Well, I was like, maybe it always sends you to that,
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: because again, all the hats were there, the cat went there,
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: so maybe it always just launches it to this one
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: specific spot, so after killing a few clones, he figured out, okay,
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: that place up in the balcony, okay, that's where it lands,
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: and as long as it's I make sure it's like
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: a roped off area where nobody can.
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: See me materialize or whatever the hell happens to him.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: It's like that's the good place because it did seem
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: like that's part of the production every night is he
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: just pops up out of the balcony.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is so confusing.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: Ta-da!
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I think part of that is so funny because even
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: if they didn't conceal it like it's some fantastical thing,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: That would be incredible to watch. Be like, oh yeah,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: we made another man.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: And this is another one I didn't think of until
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: I was writing this stuff down and there was something
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: that popped up. And it was, again, another crazy fan
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: theory part of it. So, again, the first time through
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: I didn't really think about it. The Tesla thing is
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: all a red herring? Because they're brothers.
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: There is no magical machine that did it the first time.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: So he just wrote down Tesla and was like, have fun, loser.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: Have a nice trip to America. So the entire, that
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: whole leg of the movie is just bullshit. Except then
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: he makes good on it if you buy that part
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: of the story. But I was just like, within the
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: context of that first half, there is no machine. There's
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: a machine that makes sparks. But that's all they did.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: So just like, there is no... Tesla magically doing it
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: the first time that he wants him to recreate so
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: that whole piece of it is just kind of bullshit
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: except then he really does it if you go with
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: that part of the story yeah so I didn't really
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: think about that I was like okay so he made
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: a machine but you get to the end and I'm
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: like well wait no he didn't it was two.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Guys yeah it's all a lie this.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Movie's all a lie it kind of is yeah I
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: think that's the brilliant part of it I think it's
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: just no one.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Messing with this yeah yeah It's very masturbatory when you
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: think about it.
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: Well, again, it's him just toying with an.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: Audience for an hour and a half or two hours
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: or whatever it is. It's just like, how long can
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: I string them along and all of this is bullshit?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe possibly. Well, he's had me for 10 years now,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: so believing there is actually a conclusion.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, which, again, it is, but it's kind of like,
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: choose your own adventure.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Which way do you.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Want it to end?
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Is it all real?
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: Is it not real? Is the whole thing bullshit?
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, all I know is that Michael Caine always lives.
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: Oh, Alfred. Even though he wasn't Alfred in this movie.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: The other guy was Alfred.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: He was basically Alfred.
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: But he was kind of Alfred.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: I just need an old guy to say wise things
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: to me all day.
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: Can I get that, please?
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Master Wayne.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: At least he doesn't cry at the end of this one.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: She was just a girl.
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: And he saw him at the cafe.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Anyway.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: So that was, yeah. By the end, it's like, I
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: guess if there's anything to take away from it, whether
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: there's magic or not, whether anything, it's like, is your
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: legacy worth dying for? Like, in the end, is anybody
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: really the winner in this little one-upsmanship?
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. really makes you rethink a career in comedy.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, magic, comedy. That was something I
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: was like, as you picked this, I was like, is
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: there an aspect to that that you definitely have to
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: be a showman to some extent? Do you take anything
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: from this on that level of like, just because everything
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: about this, the movie included, is a show. It's all
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: about impressing the audience to some extent and keeping them
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: sort of anticipating what's coming next.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I... I mean, it just makes me think,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: would I make my brother cut his fingers off to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: make sure my act is still funny?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: If he was committed?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's a good fucking brother. Damn it.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: Let's get him on the phone now and ask him.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I'll call him.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: Dude, don't ask any questions. We're taking your fingers off.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: Hey.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Hey, give me them fingers.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: Do I get paid?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a feature weekend at the Improv.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, people would pay to see that. It's more
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: of a jackass show, really, than anything else.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: It's not even for any reason. We both have all
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: our fingers.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have them all to begin with. It really
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: is just jackass.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I just need them fingers.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: I bet we can't take these two fingers off. Give
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: me a chisel.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I'm Johnny Knoxville. I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is fingers. Oh, Lord.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: So, I guess that's most of it. Have we addressed everything?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: Oh, man.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Again, there's so much that we can't get to, really. Yeah,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: there's so much to this movie that I don't. know
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: that I even understand, especially because I'm going off my
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: memory of the movie.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: Which is also shoddy.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: I know why it is. And I just watched it.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Of the 10 to 15 times that I've seen this movie.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: It takes repeat viewings.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't... Honestly, I don't remember. Even immediately after
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I've seen the movie, I'm like, what the fuck just.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: I think that's part of the weird time frame and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: the looping around and the fact that everybody's telling a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: weird story. And, again, it's all just unreliable.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And who is Scarlett Johansson, really?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: Is there a Scarlett Johansson?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: In real life, who is she? I don't know.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: I'd like to find out. Scarlett, if you could call me.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Hey, hit me up, Scarlett.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: You can come on the show is what we'll say
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: to get me in the door.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: But whatever.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Black Widow.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: Today, when I was thinking about it, I was like,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: if my geek thing kicks in, it's just, this is
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: Batman v.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: Wolverine.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: And they're both fighting over Black Widow.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: And that weird villain dude from Black Panther is in there.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: What if this is all part of the Marvel Universe?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, essentially, well, DC, technically.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: We've got the Batman director directing it.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then we've got Wolverine.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: Batman's there, Alfred's there. It's a little more on the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: DC end of it.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Shit.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: Shit. But yeah, I forgot that Andy Serkis is the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: little sidekick guy to Tesla, who's now going to be
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: the new villain in Black Panther.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: So I was like, it's got a.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: Whole superhero villain thing going on here.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like Hollywood is a very limited workplace.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: It's almost like they give the same people all the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: jobs over and over.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. How'd you like to be in my movies for
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the rest of your life, Andy?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: If you look like Scarlett Johansson, you can do that.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: Doesn't really matter. And luckily, she's turned in good performances.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: I keep, again, I keep kind of congratulating her because
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: I think everybody sold her short in the beginning because
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: she's just hot, but you know.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, look.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: As time's gone on.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I think she was great in Mean Girls. No, she
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: was not in Mean Girls. Who am I thinking of?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, she was, Honestly,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: scratch that from the record. She was not... Fix it
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: in post.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, to me, I think from the beginning, like,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: Ghost World, she's great.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Rachel McAdams is who I'm thinking of.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: She... Honestly, forget Scarlett Johansson. Let's talk about Rachel McAdams.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: I loved her in this movie. Wonderfully. Wait, maybe that's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: the illusionist.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: We're getting confused.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I've lost... I've lost everything.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: That's what this movie does to you. It ruins your mind.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. So anyway, Rachel McAdams is great.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: Rachel, if you'd like to come on the show, we'll
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: bring you back, and Rachel can come on, and we
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: can discuss her thoughts on this movie that she wasn't in.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: We'd like to ask you about that movie you're in.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Rachel McAdams, how do you feel about that movie with
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: someone who kind of looks like you?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, that is kind of my favorite thing to do,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: as you noticed. I will bring on people that are
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: in movies, and I'll be like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: None of the ones you're in.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: That's bullshit. You talk about the ones you're in all
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: the damn time. Pick another movie.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about that one.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: To me, that's way more interesting than anything.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: Yes, Rachel McAdams and Scarlett Johansson, you're both invited on
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: to talk about a movie you're not in.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: My number is 347.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: Well, definitely, you're invited back to join me.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Just tweet at me.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: I need a full-time co-host anyway, so we're just going to...
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: You've got to commute in every week.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'll do it. I'm down. I'll be there.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with it.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: I will be there.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: Well, speaking of your commuting, are you in the middle of,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: to round it out and give people more of a
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: way to find you comedy-wise, are you in the middle
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: of a tour, or are you constantly on tour, or
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: how does.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: It work these days?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: We're at the tail end of a week-long tour. I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: guess this is our second-to-last show tonight. Gallery K in Louisville,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: if you're listening in a week and you want to
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: come back in time and see the show tonight.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: Just come hang out at Gallery K.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: They're awesome. Tomorrow we'll be in Knoxville at Sawworks Brewing Company.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: We're doing a little You missed that one too. Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Sorry guys. Sorry I'm quitting comedy after Friday. So if
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: you're listening to this.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: If you were where would you tell them to go
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: on the internet to find out where you're going to be?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I'm on Twitter Instagram everything as at Professor
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Doye which is Professor D-O-Y-E. I host a show called
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Rent Party, which will be released as a podcast soon. Oh, podcasts.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: Those things.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: Don't let anybody have one of those.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: No, no. You don't need it. Don't listen to it. Honestly,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: it's garbage. It's going to be bad.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: Well, I recommend it.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: He hasn't heard it yet. Nobody listened to him. They don't. Otherwise...
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: You can find me on Venmo. Send me whatever money
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: you got.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: I keep playing that game, too.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Google Wallet works, too. It's easier.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: Do you have aspirations to do something more than comedy? Because, again,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: that used to be the old game was you get
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: into stand-up so you can get a sitcom.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: They don't really do that exactly anymore, but sometimes it
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: accidentally happens.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's hard to say because... I feel like
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I do a few things. I've acted a little bit.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: I was in theater and all that nonsense. I love
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: to sing and just generally participate in music. Not necessarily
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: write because I'm not that great at it. I think
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I just want to.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: I basically want to follow Donald Glover's career path without
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: anyone ever actually saying that.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, we should all be so lucky.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: If we could all be super talented in every avenue
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: we go down, that'd be really nice for us.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: So far, you seem to be doing pretty good.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, I am not. Hey, Reggie Watts, call me. That's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: all I want. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: I want to be on his new show. Yeah, whatever.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I'd love to have him on my show. I feel
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: like he'd be great. I mean, it's basically what he
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: does with his pen. Except I'm not as good at it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: The hell you say.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I say it.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I mean it.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: Alright, so they should go and find you on the internet.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, find me on the internet.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: Look for you out in the world and come see.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my Chase Bank routing number is.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: We'll need your social security as well.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just deposit a couple bucks in my account whenever
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: you feel like it.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: After you Stop by mine and give me some. Just
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: spread it around, people.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: That's all we're saying.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, spread the love. I'm all about a basic income
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: for all the people. We've been talking about that for
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, making money doing anything semi-entertainment oriented is rough. Yeah.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Hey, look. Everything is going to be automated in a
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: few years. Professional sports are not going to be necessary.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: We'll have video games and everything.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: I was hoping robots competing against each other.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: That would be amazing.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: Speaking of Hugh Jackman, boxing robots is really all I
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: am asking for. Is that too much to ask? Battle
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: bots all day long.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Who's going to make those?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: Kids in other countries?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: Isn't that usually how we do it? We outsource ourselves
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: to another country and small five-year-old little nimble hands.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: Put that shit together for us.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: God bless America.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: And then they grow up to be on Spike TV
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: and forgotten bit parts.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: It all comes together.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: Well, thank you for being on the show.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Hey, of course. Thanks for having me.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: Thank you to Gallery K for letting us loiter around here.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Thanks, y'all.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: Hang out on the patio.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Come see the show in a couple hours.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Otherwise, they are galleryk.net. So go there and see
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: what they've got in the works because obviously they put
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: awesome stuff together. So support Gallery K as well. They
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: need your love and money too.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Hey, support yourself too.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, always remember to put your own mask on before
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: assisting others.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: Get a job. You can't give anybody else any money
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: until you get a job.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Just saying.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: Support yourself so you can give everyone else money.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: So you can support me.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: That's how the world works.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: On that note, I guess we should wrap it up. Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: Otherwise, that about does it.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: We will return next time. Same geek feed.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: Thanks for listening.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: I can make the pain disappear And I can erase
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: the past I can make the future shine so bright
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: And I can make right now all right.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: I got it. You got it.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: We got the magic.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: I got it.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: You got it.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: We got the magic.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 7: I got it.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: You got it.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: We got the magic.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: I got it.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: You got it.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: We got the magic. All I got is concrete all
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: around me. But I can see the countryside. You can
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: be rich when you're poor, poor when you're rich. It
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: can be rated, and I can make the sun shine.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 7: I got it. You got it. We got the magic, yeah.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 7: I got it. You know you got it, baby. We
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: got the magic, yeah.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: I got it.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 7: I got it, baby. We got the magic, yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: I got it.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: We got the magic, yeah.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: I know sometimes, sometimes you feel no hope.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I've been there.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: I've walked that lonely road.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I took whatever.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 7: Death would offer me Because I knew that he would
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: set me free I got it, you got it We
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: got the magic, yeah I got it, you got it
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 7: We got the magic, yeah I got it, you got
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: it We got the magic, yeah I got it, you
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: got it We got the magic, yeah Science.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: They can't prove it.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: But I know I can do it. I can fly.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: I can bend metal with my mind. I can wake
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: up in a paradise.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 7: We got that magic. We got that magic. We got
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: the magic.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: We got the magic.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: We got the magic. We got the magic. We got
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 7: the magic. Come on. We got the magic.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: We got the magic.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: We got the magic. We got the magic.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: We got the magic.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: We got the magic.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 7: I thought that he was going to.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: Get out of here.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Just us boys.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: Y'all are nice.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: You too, man. I just want to play with him
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: for a while.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go in and holler at him.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Dewey. He kissed me.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: All right. You too, man. You too.
• 1:13:38
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• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Talk hard!