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- 0:01Speaker 1: From the principal Toyota studios, it's Morning in Memphis with
- 0:06Speaker 1: Todd Starnes.
- 0:08Speaker 2: And hello, everybody.
- 0:09Speaker 3: I hope you're doing well wherever you might be this morning,
- 0:13Speaker 3: getting off to a very busy start. We have a
- 0:17Speaker 3: lot of big news stories happening here in the Mid-South
- 0:20Speaker 3: and really around the country. I want you to write
- 0:23Speaker 3: down our telephone number. You're going to need this to
- 0:25Speaker 3: call in, 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926. So yesterday, early voting. We
- 0:35Speaker 3: should be getting in those official numbers. But from all accounts,
- 0:39Speaker 3: looked like a pretty strong turnout across the entire state.
- 0:43Speaker 3: And right here in Shelby County, would certainly like to
- 0:46Speaker 3: hear from you this morning. What was it like at
- 0:48Speaker 3: the polling station you went to? I will tell you
- 0:52Speaker 3: that I normally vote in Germantown. and it was a
- 0:58Speaker 3: very busy polling precinct, as a matter of fact. It
- 1:01Speaker 3: took about, I don't know, 25, 30 minutes to get
- 1:05Speaker 3: in there to vote. Everybody in a good mood. There
- 1:08Speaker 3: were a couple of first-time voters, and they do something
- 1:12Speaker 3: up really nice, you know, for the first-time voters. They
- 1:14Speaker 3: treat them really well. The rest of us, you know,
- 1:17Speaker 3: we got to, well... No, they treat us well, too.
- 1:20Speaker 3: But it was in and out. I'm the guy that
- 1:23Speaker 3: always asks for the paper ballot. I'm old school. I
- 1:27Speaker 3: like to be able to fill in the circles myself
- 1:30Speaker 3: and cast my vote and got the sticker. And I
- 1:34Speaker 3: will say this. The crowds, there was... This was just
- 1:41Speaker 3: an observation. So as you walk up to go vote,
- 1:46Speaker 3: there are representatives from the various candidates there. And as
- 1:50Speaker 3: a matter of fact, in some cases, there are actually
- 1:52Speaker 3: candidates there. And you say hello, got to say hello
- 1:55Speaker 3: to Mark White and his lovely bride. Of course, Mark
- 1:59Speaker 3: running for reelection for the state house. And so anyway,
- 2:03Speaker 3: there were a number of candidates or their, you know,
- 2:07Speaker 3: or their representatives there. And they're trying to, you know,
- 2:10Speaker 3: they're handing you all the information. So, you know, you
- 2:13Speaker 3: can maybe they can influence your vote, which is all
- 2:15Speaker 3: perfectly normal. They do that, you know, every election cycle.
- 2:19Speaker 3: But there was just one. This was really funny. There
- 2:22Speaker 3: was just one candidate. And it really wasn't the candidate
- 2:25Speaker 3: at all. It was the representative there.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Of the candidate.
- 2:30Speaker 3: And they said, we want you to vote for this person.
- 2:34Speaker 3: And I said, well, I only vote for Republicans, bona
- 2:39Speaker 3: fide Republicans. And the person really got upset with me
- 2:45Speaker 3: and was, well, my candidate is a Republican.
- 2:48Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay.
- 2:50Speaker 1: All right.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Glad to hear that.
- 2:52Speaker 3: But it's not on my list of bona fide Republicans,
- 2:55Speaker 3: so I don't see the name here. Not a lot
- 2:57Speaker 3: of joy in that camp. So anyway, all I had
- 3:01Speaker 3: to say. Folks, at the end of the day, it's
- 3:04Speaker 3: an election. Be nice, be polite, and don't get upset
- 3:08Speaker 3: if somebody doesn't vote for your guy or your gal.
- 3:11Speaker 2: I mean, that's the way it is. All right.
- 3:14Speaker 3: So anyway, would love to hear from you today how
- 3:17Speaker 3: things went. I do want to share a couple of items,
- 3:20Speaker 3: and there may be folks, and maybe you haven't voted before.
- 3:24Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff on the ballot. So Be
- 3:28Speaker 3: sure someone sent me a note yesterday and said, Todd,
- 3:31Speaker 3: when I wanted to vote, there was only like the
- 3:33Speaker 3: governor's race and the the ballot initiatives.
- 3:37Speaker 2: And that was it. Was there more to the to
- 3:39Speaker 2: the to the election? I said, yes.
- 3:42Speaker 3: And I asked the person, did you flip over the ballot?
- 3:45Speaker 3: Because there are two sides. So just remember that two sides.
- 3:50Speaker 3: Take your time.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Fill it out. Make sure you understand what you're voting for.
- 3:54Speaker 3: And I really do appreciate the fact that the poll
- 3:57Speaker 3: workers actually actually sent, you know, as people were standing
- 4:01Speaker 3: in line, they were handing them copies of the ballot initiative.
- 4:05Speaker 3: So people, if they didn't understand what they were voting for,
- 4:07Speaker 3: they could read up on it and understand. Also, I've
- 4:11Speaker 3: got to read this. This is from a group. So
- 4:14Speaker 3: our good friends, the Real Housewives of Germantown sent this over.
- 4:17Speaker 3: This is a Facebook group, Memphis Raise Your Expectations. And
- 4:23Speaker 3: a woman writing in says, I voted early today. When
- 4:27Speaker 3: I went to the table, I was not asked if
- 4:29Speaker 3: I wanted a Democrat or Republican ballot. When I entered
- 4:33Speaker 3: the form into the machine, the ballot came up, and
- 4:36Speaker 3: I was.
- 4:36Speaker 2: A little confused.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Marsha Blackburn's name was the first name listed on my ballot.
- 4:42Speaker 3: So I stuck my head out and asked the poll
- 4:44Speaker 3: worker if there was a Democrat or a Republican ballot.
- 4:47Speaker 3: He said yes. That was incorrect. A female worker came over.
- 4:51Speaker 3: And I said, why is she pointing out? Why do
- 4:53Speaker 3: we need to know if it was a female worker?
- 4:56Speaker 1: Anyway.
- 4:56Speaker 3: So she goes on to say she was incredibly confused.
- 5:01Speaker 3: She's enraged that Marsha Blackburn was at the top of
- 5:04Speaker 3: the ballot. She says, I am a reasonably intelligent woman
- 5:08Speaker 3: and good reader. The ballot threw me for a loop.
- 5:11Speaker 3: It seems like all camps. It seems like just another
- 5:14Speaker 3: way to confuse the voters. Who thought that was a
- 5:18Speaker 3: good idea? Well, I don't want to question the reasonable
- 5:24Speaker 3: intelligence of this dear lady here, but in the general election,
- 5:29Speaker 3: everybody's on the same ballot, and they list the candidates alphabetically.
- 5:35Speaker 3: So Blackburn starts with the letter B, so therefore she
- 5:41Speaker 3: is at the top of the ballot. If there had been,
- 5:44Speaker 3: let's say if Ed Apple had been running for governor, well,
- 5:47Speaker 3: guess what? A would have been for Apple, and Apple
- 5:50Speaker 3: would have been at the top of the list. So
- 5:53Speaker 3: there's no vast right-wing conspiracy going on here, folks.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Just want to throw that out.
- 5:59Speaker 3: All right, so anyway, curious to hear how things went
- 6:01Speaker 3: for you at your voting location.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Our telephone number, 901-260-5926. That's 901. 260-5926.
- 6:12Speaker 3: Oh, have you seen the video? We have this over
- 6:15Speaker 3: on the KOM Facebook page. Senator Marsha Blackburn sharing a
- 6:20Speaker 3: video that shows her dancing. It's an AI video. And man,
- 6:24Speaker 3: did they put on some pounds for Brent Taylor. I mean,
- 6:27Speaker 3: didn't do him any favors. He was full figured in
- 6:30Speaker 3: that video. It featured Blackburn. They were dancing, I think,
- 6:34Speaker 3: to a Kendrick Lamar song. And you had Blackburn, Bill
- 6:38Speaker 3: Hagerty dancing. Tim Burchett, Glenn Jacobs, and then Senator Taylor.
- 6:44Speaker 3: And so people are, let's just say it's not going
- 6:49Speaker 3: over as well as they thought it might.
- 6:52Speaker 2: And I'm going to explain why in just a moment.
- 6:54Speaker 3: But anyway, Marsha Blackburn was asked about this out on
- 6:57Speaker 3: the campaign trail yesterday.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Take a listen.
- 7:00Speaker 4: There is a county commissioner that made the video and
- 7:03Speaker 4: put it up, and I think Congressman Burchett reposted it.
- 7:07Speaker 4: We reposted it, and it's a funsy. Everybody get out
- 7:12Speaker 4: and vote.
- 7:14Speaker 5: No, Marsha, it's a.
- 7:15Speaker 2: No for me. This is die-buckle witchcraft. diabolical witchcraft. I
- 7:32Speaker 2: don't know. Marsha's got some moves there.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Even if it's AI Marsha, she's got some, you know, look,
- 7:39Speaker 3: it could have been worse, could have been twerking. I'm
- 7:42Speaker 3: going to leave it there. But as Marsha said, it's just,
- 7:45Speaker 3: just a little funsy, just a little funsy. So everybody
- 7:49Speaker 3: is getting all bent out of shape over this and
- 7:52Speaker 3: people are The guy thinks it's witchcraft. So anyway, your
- 7:57Speaker 3: take on Marsha. Here's why I think it's going. It's
- 8:00Speaker 3: not going over as well as maybe the campaign thought
- 8:04Speaker 3: it was. The campaign has not been known for funsy.
- 8:08Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell you it is. It is
- 8:10Speaker 3: off brand. This campaign has been ugly. It has been
- 8:14Speaker 3: in the trenches warfare. And there's really not been a
- 8:18Speaker 3: lot of fun coming out of the Blackburn campaign. And
- 8:21Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's good or bad. It's just the
- 8:23Speaker 3: reality of it. So when you post a video like that,
- 8:27Speaker 3: Just out of nowhere, it's off-brand, and it just throws
- 8:30Speaker 3: people for a loop. But anyway, it is what it is.
- 8:34Speaker 3: I doubt this is— I don't know. Maybe it will impact
- 8:37Speaker 3: people's votes. I sincerely doubt that. I will say this.
- 8:41Speaker 3: The Blackburn campaign throwing down another attack ad on David Hatley—
- 8:48Speaker 3: And here's the reason why it was interesting.
- 8:50Speaker 2: This story came out yesterday afternoon.
- 8:52Speaker 3: And then by the evening in my inbox, I had
- 8:55Speaker 3: another attack ad going after David Hatley, who clearly 30
- 9:00Speaker 3: plus years ago had big time, had big time legal
- 9:05Speaker 3: and criminal problems. No doubt about that. The question is,
- 9:09Speaker 3: and by the way, Jerry Green, too, when she was
- 9:12Speaker 3: sitting down with the interview with us, She went after Hatley,
- 9:15Speaker 3: and she said everything that Hatley did 30-plus years ago
- 9:19Speaker 3: is fair game. So the headline today is that David
- 9:25Speaker 3: Hatley has given his own campaign another $ 5 million. He
- 9:30Speaker 3: is the best-financed candidate in the statewide race. $ 5 million,
- 9:36Speaker 3: that was listed in his third-quarter campaign finance report. The
- 9:40Speaker 3: candidates had to file that this week. So far, he
- 9:45Speaker 3: spent $ 12 million in his bid to be the next
- 9:50Speaker 3: governor of Tennessee. And right now, his balance, as of yesterday,
- 9:56Speaker 3: a $ 6.
- 9:56Speaker 1: 8 million.
- 10:12Speaker 3: And those are really the three candidates you've got to consider.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Let me just say this also about Hatley. There are
- 10:21Speaker 3: some reports internally, this guy's internal polling, that he's roughly
- 10:27Speaker 3: getting around 20% of the vote. Now, if that number holds,
- 10:32Speaker 3: it's not enough for him to win the race, and
- 10:35Speaker 3: it may not be enough for Senator Blackburn to win
- 10:39Speaker 3: the race. That's because Hatley, by all indications, is pulling
- 10:44Speaker 3: support away from Marsha Blackburn. Look, there were a lot
- 10:47Speaker 3: of disenfranchised Republicans after that nasty primary fight. And John Rose,
- 10:53Speaker 3: you don't see John Rose out on the campaign trail
- 10:55Speaker 3: stumping for Marsha Blackburn, do you? And you certainly don't
- 10:58Speaker 3: see Monty Fritz. And so the question is, where do
- 11:02Speaker 3: those voters go?
- 11:03Speaker 2: Are they going to?
- 11:04Speaker 3: And I would say that out of the three, John
- 11:07Speaker 3: Rose supporters more likely going to support Blackburn. Monty Fritz supporters,
- 11:12Speaker 3: I think, go to Hatley. So anyway, I'm just curious,
- 11:15Speaker 3: who are you voting for and who do you like?
- 11:18Speaker 3: Our telephone number, 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926. Coming up, we're going
- 11:27Speaker 3: to be talking to one of the top pollsters in America.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Matt Towery.
- 11:31Speaker 3: He's one of the guys that has gotten all of
- 11:34Speaker 3: the races right. And we need to hear what he
- 11:37Speaker 3: has to say about the midterms and all the polling
- 11:40Speaker 3: data out there. Right now, though, we've got to listen
- 11:42Speaker 3: to Commander Chuck. He's keeping track of your morning commute.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Let's check in with him.
- 11:54Speaker 2: All right.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Well, if you were lucky enough to be at Ronnie
- 11:57Speaker 3: Grisanti's the other day, you saw something that was, well,
- 12:01Speaker 3: quite frankly, almost unbelievable. A huge birthday party for Martha McInespie,
- 12:09Speaker 3: who turned 110 years old. And it was quite it
- 12:15Speaker 3: was quite the celebration. She had the manicotti, by the way.
- 12:20Speaker 3: But anyway, yesterday, big, big birthday for Miss Martha, who
- 12:26Speaker 3: is a local celebrity, really. It's a fascinating story. She
- 12:31Speaker 3: still lives by herself at 110 years old, plays bridge
- 12:36Speaker 3: every Monday, and she goes to regular lunches at Grisanti's.
- 12:41Speaker 3: She says the manicotti is the best in the world,
- 12:43Speaker 3: and that is that. So what a wonderful story. And
- 12:49Speaker 3: you can read all about it over at the Daily
- 12:51Speaker 3: Memphian if you subscribe. But a large group of ladies,
- 12:57Speaker 3: and it turns out all of their dads used to
- 12:59Speaker 3: bowl together at Southern Bowling Lanes. Anybody remember Southern Bowling Lanes?
- 13:03Speaker 3: I think that was over, yikes, was that North Cleveland Street?
- 13:08Speaker 3: And that's where her husband worked. So anyway, she had
- 13:13Speaker 3: a wonderful time. And again, she's looking forward to her
- 13:18Speaker 3: birthday celebration next year. And you never know. I mean,
- 13:21Speaker 3: it might be 115 years old. So anyway, I'm just curious.
- 13:26Speaker 3: What about your family? Who is the oldest person in
- 13:30Speaker 3: your family? And what's the secret to long life, a
- 13:33Speaker 3: long and happy life? You know, I was reading the,
- 13:36Speaker 3: I read the interview with the lady many years ago
- 13:39Speaker 3: who said she believed, I think she was over 100,
- 13:42Speaker 3: and she believed the secret to longevity, drinking three Dr.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Peppers a day. And the reporter said, but are you sure?
- 13:52Speaker 2: Three Dr.
- 13:52Speaker 3: Peppers a day? And the lady said, absolutely. The reporter said, well,
- 13:57Speaker 3: didn't your doctors tell you that's not good for you?
- 13:59Speaker 3: She said, absolutely, but they're all dead and I'm still alive. So,
- 14:04Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, that's why yours truly, I am fueled
- 14:07Speaker 3: by three Dr. Peppers a day. Not the huge ones,
- 14:11Speaker 3: you know, like the two liters, but like the little cans.
- 14:14Speaker 3: We have a full, the fridge here at the Mighty
- 14:17Speaker 3: Down 90 stocked with those things. All right, 901-260-5926. If
- 14:23Speaker 3: you want to wish Miss Martha a happy 110th birthday,
- 14:28Speaker 3: or if you want to share maybe the secret to
- 14:31Speaker 3: a long life with your family, give us a holler
- 14:34Speaker 3: this morning and let us know. Coming up, by the way,
- 14:37Speaker 3: we are going to be speaking to Matt Towery. You
- 14:40Speaker 3: see him all the time with Sean Hannity. Matt spending
- 14:43Speaker 3: a few moments with us here on here on the
- 14:48Speaker 3: program coming up, talking about the midterm election. How are
- 14:51Speaker 3: you guys feeling about the midterms? I know Fox News.
- 14:54Speaker 3: If you watched Fox last night, you're like running towards
- 14:58Speaker 3: the cliff right now. And I don't think you need
- 15:00Speaker 3: to be doing that. Because I'm still feeling pretty darn
- 15:04Speaker 3: bullish about the Republicans' chances. But everybody's got to work together. Unfortunately,
- 15:09Speaker 3: there is a lot of infighting. And it's not just
- 15:11Speaker 3: locally and all that stuff is a great big mess.
- 15:14Speaker 3: It's also a great big distraction. Because we need people
- 15:18Speaker 3: that are willing to set aside their personal grievances. and
- 15:22Speaker 3: focus on the big picture here. And the big picture
- 15:26Speaker 3: is stopping the rise of Islam. The big picture is
- 15:30Speaker 3: stopping the rise of the communists. That's ultimately what this
- 15:35Speaker 3: midterm election is all about here. And if we lose
- 15:39Speaker 3: sight of that, then we're going to have, well, we're
- 15:43Speaker 3: just going to have big problems in this country. And
- 15:46Speaker 3: I don't think the country wants that. Certainly the country
- 15:50Speaker 3: does not need that.
- 15:53Speaker 2: 901-260-5926.
- 15:53Speaker 3: I want to play some audio here. This is from
- 15:59Speaker 3: a fired up Trump supporter last night in Montana, cut 49.
- 16:02Speaker 4: So when people say that people aren't going to be
- 16:05Speaker 4: motivated to vote, what do you say about that? Oh, no, no.
- 16:08Speaker 5: We're all motivated.
- 16:10Speaker 2: It's... Righteousness versus demonic.
- 16:13Speaker 5: That's how I look at it. So Republican versus Democrat.
- 16:17Speaker 5: You're righteous and you believe in God and you believe
- 16:19Speaker 5: in our country or you believe in girls in our
- 16:23Speaker 5: men and women's sports and utilization of our children and
- 16:27Speaker 5: It's amazing the difference. Start night and day.
- 16:31Speaker 3: And you can tell.
- 16:31Speaker 5: I mean, the line is all the way just all
- 16:35Speaker 5: the way down the interstate.
- 16:36Speaker 2: It's huge.
- 16:36Speaker 5: And so you're going to you think people are going
- 16:38Speaker 5: to turn out this midterm election?
- 16:40Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 16:40Speaker 4: We are.
- 16:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, too.
- 16:44Speaker 3: And I saw that. I know I was getting reports from,
- 16:47Speaker 3: I think, Collierville, where there are a lot of people
- 16:49Speaker 3: wearing face diapers that were showing up to vote.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Not in my neighborhood.
- 16:54Speaker 3: There were so everybody looked like they were Republican. Well,
- 16:59Speaker 3: I'm not going to say what look, but if you're
- 17:01Speaker 3: wearing a face diaper, chances are you're probably not a Republican.
- 17:05Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying here. So anyway, Stephen Miller last
- 17:09Speaker 3: night saying, hey, look, you've got to pay attention here.
- 17:14Speaker 3: The polls are getting it wrong. And we're going to
- 17:17Speaker 3: play some of that coming up right after the break here.
- 17:21Speaker 3: But again, Stephen Miller says if you want to keep
- 17:23Speaker 3: the freaks out of office, these crazy communists, you've got
- 17:26Speaker 3: to show up and you've got to vote. You've got
- 17:28Speaker 3: to fight for your children and you've got to fight
- 17:30Speaker 3: to save the country. I think that's a pretty good
- 17:32Speaker 3: reason to get out here. and vote hey by the
- 17:35Speaker 3: way don't forget tomorrow ladies and gentlemen huge huge day
- 17:40Speaker 3: at theater memphis the million dollar quartet uh that musical
- 17:44Speaker 3: debuts you heard a little bit of the music earlier
- 17:48Speaker 3: this week and we're going to have some tomorrow on
- 17:50Speaker 3: the show It is a great program. You need to
- 17:53Speaker 3: get tickets. The show opens up tomorrow at Theater Memphis.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Go to their website, and you'll find all the information there.
- 18:01Speaker 3: All right, coming up, your calls. Also, Matt Towery, our
- 18:06Speaker 3: great conversation with him. Don't go anywhere. This is Todd
- 18:10Speaker 3: Stearns in the principal Toyota Memphis studios.
- 18:26Speaker 2: All right.
- 18:26Speaker 3: Wow, the morning chat is going strong over on our
- 18:31Speaker 3: Facebook live stream.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Hello, everybody.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Principal Toyota Memphis studio. I want
- 18:36Speaker 3: to say good morning to Dean, who has now, I guess,
- 18:38Speaker 3: given himself an on-field, battlefield promotion to official greeter at
- 18:43Speaker 3: the Mighty 990. Dean, you're doing a great job of that.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Kristen Hicks writing in, imagine being born in 1916. talking
- 18:52Speaker 3: about Miss Martha celebrating her 110th birthday, and she's getting
- 18:56Speaker 3: around pretty good for 110. She says, my dad just
- 19:00Speaker 3: had a hip replacement last month. He's 89, super sharp,
- 19:04Speaker 3: has lots of hobbies, using his hands, woodworking, gunsmithing, metalworking,
- 19:08Speaker 3: model trains. His family lives into their mid-90s. They have
- 19:13Speaker 3: super genes. So maybe that's it is just staying active.
- 19:17Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people say, Stearns, when are
- 19:18Speaker 3: you going to retire? And I'm like, what does that
- 19:21Speaker 3: even mean? What does that word mean, retire?
- 19:24Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
- 19:25Speaker 3: So anyway, just wondering what is the secret to a
- 19:28Speaker 3: long life as we celebrate a lady who is believed
- 19:31Speaker 3: to be the oldest person in Memphis, Miss Martha, celebrating
- 19:34Speaker 3: her 110th birthday this week.
- 19:35Speaker 2: 901-260-5926 is our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926.
- 19:36Speaker 3: So I was out at Shelby Farms, finally back out
- 19:38Speaker 3: there getting is our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926. So I
- 19:45Speaker 3: was out at Shelby Farms, finally back out there, getting
- 19:50Speaker 3: in some exercise, doing the loop around the Baptist Promenade.
- 19:53Speaker 3: And I think I was about midway through when I'm like,
- 19:56Speaker 3: sweet mercy, it's 90-something degrees out here. But anyway, I'm
- 19:59Speaker 3: listening to some podcasts. and I heard Sean Hannity interviewing
- 20:04Speaker 3: our good friend Matt Towery. And the more I listened,
- 20:08Speaker 3: the more fired up I got. I knew we had
- 20:10Speaker 3: to have Matt on the show. Here's a little bit
- 20:13Speaker 3: of that conversation. Matt, you were getting every second I
- 20:18Speaker 3: was getting just more and more pumped up listening to
- 20:22Speaker 3: you and Hannity and the conversation you guys were having.
- 20:26Speaker 3: It's good to have you on the show today.
- 20:29Speaker 1: Well, you know, I have to tell Sean that we're
- 20:31Speaker 1: a new exercise routine. I had no idea that would work.
- 20:36Speaker 2: That's it. You guys burn more calories than Pilates.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Glad to hear it.
- 20:42Speaker 3: Matt, you've got a great new book out called The
- 20:44Speaker 3: Honoring of Ignorance, The Seven Mirages Destroying America, and we're
- 20:48Speaker 3: going to talk about that in just a second. But
- 20:51Speaker 3: one of the things I've been so upset about this
- 20:54Speaker 3: election cycle are these polls that have been coming out,
- 20:58Speaker 3: and I'm just not buying what the pollsters are trying
- 21:02Speaker 3: to sell us. I mean, you've been doing this a long,
- 21:05Speaker 3: long time. What say you?
- 21:08Speaker 1: Well, you know, fortunately, we've had a record of being
- 21:11Speaker 1: one of the most accurate pollsters in 2016, 20, and 24.
- 21:15Speaker 1: And in the 22 midterms, we were accurate, but we
- 21:21Speaker 1: weren't at the top. And there was a reason why,
- 21:23Speaker 1: because we listened to the national pollsters who polled the
- 21:27Speaker 1: generic ballot. And even the New York Times and the
- 21:30Speaker 1: others were saying, oh, the Republicans are going to sweep.
- 21:33Speaker 1: And so we adjusted our models based on that. And,
- 21:35Speaker 1: of course, the Republicans did sweep some critical races. We're
- 21:39Speaker 1: lost by the Republicans. It wasn't a bad year for Republicans,
- 21:42Speaker 1: but it wasn't the banner year people thought. Now, I'm
- 21:45Speaker 1: not listening to these national pollsters this time. I do
- 21:47Speaker 1: my own waiting. And, by the way, this is my
- 21:49Speaker 1: last year of polling. Todd, you're getting me in the
- 21:52Speaker 1: last year before I retire and just write books and
- 21:56Speaker 1: continue to give punditry. But I'm not going to miss
- 21:59Speaker 1: this race. Let me tell you what they're doing. They're
- 22:02Speaker 1: doing what they do every single year. They underweight Republicans.
- 22:06Speaker 1: They undersample Republicans. They make assumptions in their weighting that
- 22:10Speaker 1: is incorrect. They thought this was going to be a
- 22:13Speaker 1: year where young people were upset and they were going
- 22:15Speaker 1: to turn out and start a revolution, moving towards socialism. Well,
- 22:20Speaker 1: what we're seeing, and it's just not me, but Robert
- 22:23Speaker 1: Cahaley at Trafalgar, you know Robert and the folks at Rasmussen,
- 22:26Speaker 1: they've all polled it. We've been sharing our polling. And
- 22:30Speaker 1: every single poll shows that senior voters, 65 and older,
- 22:34Speaker 1: are the ones who are turning out, who are most
- 22:37Speaker 1: excited about turning out. And by the way, we now
- 22:39Speaker 1: have evidence to back that up. We've seen early voting
- 22:42Speaker 1: in Ohio, Michigan, and now in Georgia. Seniors are voting
- 22:46Speaker 1: off the chain. And believe it or not, they have
- 22:49Speaker 1: now moved much more to the Republican Party than they
- 22:51Speaker 1: had after the pandemic. You and I, I think, discussed
- 22:54Speaker 1: this before, that after the pandemic... Some seniors got a
- 22:57Speaker 1: little upset. They felt like Trump didn't handle it right.
- 23:00Speaker 1: They felt like they were very vulnerable during that time period. Well,
- 23:03Speaker 1: guess what? They are back with the GOP big time
- 23:06Speaker 1: because they don't want socialism and they don't like what
- 23:08Speaker 1: they're seeing. So these pollsters are off. Races are going
- 23:11Speaker 1: to get very, very tight. And we're going to be
- 23:13Speaker 1: there to tell everybody what the truth is, whether Democrat
- 23:16Speaker 1: or Republican. I don't know, but I know they're tightening.
- 23:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either, Matt. And again, my encouragement
- 23:23Speaker 3: to people is to get out and vote. I mean,
- 23:25Speaker 3: you ultimately control that. You know, you get to decide
- 23:29Speaker 3: whether you are going to engage in the political process
- 23:32Speaker 3: or not. You know, my frustration has been, it just
- 23:34Speaker 3: seems like the media and the polling agencies have been somewhat,
- 23:39Speaker 3: I don't know if they're colluding, complicit in really misleading
- 23:44Speaker 3: the American people. And it seems to me, There seems
- 23:48Speaker 3: to be some election interference going on.
- 23:51Speaker 1: Well, you know, the funny thing about in the book,
- 23:53Speaker 1: The Honoring of Ignorance, and people, you want to, you
- 23:57Speaker 1: have a member of your family or someone who just
- 23:59Speaker 1: will not listen to you and thinks that you're crazy
- 24:02Speaker 1: for being a Republican or liking Donald Trump, and shove
- 24:05Speaker 1: it in their face and tell them to read it
- 24:07Speaker 1: and then debate them afterwards. I went through every part
- 24:10Speaker 1: of this talk. I documented it by numbers. I gave
- 24:13Speaker 1: the details all apart. in the policy of Trump and
- 24:18Speaker 1: the like, and some of his statements, the way they're
- 24:22Speaker 1: misconstrued or omitted by the media. And I put it
- 24:25Speaker 1: all together and wrapped it up in a bow. And
- 24:27Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if you get this book, you will
- 24:30Speaker 1: beat anybody in your family on any debate. I'm not
- 24:33Speaker 1: sure that we could be able to come back. And
- 24:35Speaker 1: part of the reason is this. So you get the
- 24:39Speaker 1: best pollsters in the country based on basic just error rate.
- 24:43Speaker 1: And those have been Insider Advantage, Rasmussen, Trafalgar, let's see, Qantas,
- 24:50Speaker 1: Atlas Intel, which really is a Brazilian company. They don't
- 24:54Speaker 1: do as much as people think. Emerson College. There are
- 24:58Speaker 1: a handful of others. This is right on every time.
- 25:03Speaker 1: What happens is they set up these groups like it
- 25:06Speaker 1: used to be 538, which was owned by Disney and ABC,
- 25:09Speaker 1: and now it's Nate Silver and the Silver Bulletin and
- 25:12Speaker 1: some of his other friends, and they rate pollsters. What
- 25:16Speaker 1: they do is they go through and find excuses to
- 25:18Speaker 1: take the people who are the most accurate and give
- 25:21Speaker 1: them bad grades. They make it look like they can't
- 25:23Speaker 1: run an insider advantage on a network or on any
- 25:27Speaker 1: decent newspaper. Well, in fact, we've been the most accurate
- 25:30Speaker 1: every single time.
- 25:31Speaker 2: You sure have.
- 25:32Speaker 1: That's a game they play, Todd. It's designed to do that.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Let me give you an example. So when Nate Silver,
- 25:39Speaker 1: I don't have his, he changed his ratings. He changes
- 25:41Speaker 1: them all the time. But he ranked the top pollsters
- 25:44Speaker 1: in the country. Most of the polls he ran top.
- 25:48Speaker 1: Most of the races they were polling in the 2024 election.
- 25:52Speaker 1: He takes little bitties to place at Olinburg in Pennsylvania.
- 25:57Speaker 1: I'm sure a very fine school. But they don't poll
- 25:59Speaker 1: that much. They just poll Pennsylvania. He's way up there.
- 26:03Speaker 1: And they missed the one race that they polled in
- 26:06Speaker 1: their own state. They had Harris winning. So he takes
- 26:10Speaker 1: little pictures you've never heard of and ranks them ahead
- 26:12Speaker 1: of Trafalgar and Insider Advantage and McLaughlin and rescues and
- 26:16Speaker 1: so we look like them so we can't run their
- 26:20Speaker 1: ads they're not transparent enough but that's nonsense we put
- 26:23Speaker 1: all our stuff up or uh we're not a member
- 26:26Speaker 1: of some position the pollster we don't do that because
- 26:29Speaker 1: the people who run those things are ultra liberal and
- 26:32Speaker 1: the car pulls apart why would part of that so
- 26:35Speaker 1: they use excuses and then they try to peddle it
- 26:38Speaker 1: to the news organizations So what you're seeing right now
- 26:41Speaker 1: is them pushing polls from the usual suspects who have traditionally,
- 26:46Speaker 1: basically in the last 10 or 15 years, particularly in
- 26:48Speaker 1: the Trump era, had thrown. So that's why you have
- 26:52Speaker 1: a good reason to question these polls. Now, I'm not
- 26:54Speaker 1: telling you the Republicans are winning every state. Our polls
- 26:57Speaker 1: right now show the Democrats winning a lot of states,
- 26:59Speaker 1: but by one or two points. But with this new
- 27:02Speaker 1: wave which is occurring, which I'll talk about, the silver wave,
- 27:06Speaker 1: We're going to have to re-weight our polls, and things
- 27:09Speaker 1: are going to change big time.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Matt Towery is joining us on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line,
- 27:14Speaker 3: has a new book out called The Honoring of Ignorance. Matt,
- 27:19Speaker 3: one of the things you address in the book, and
- 27:22Speaker 3: this concerns me because I've long suspected this might be
- 27:26Speaker 3: the case. I think we are– the country is heading towards–
- 27:31Speaker 3: really a very difficult moment. And you write about this,
- 27:34Speaker 3: and you say that this liberal ideology could eventually lead
- 27:41Speaker 3: to some sort of a separation.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Tell us about that.
- 27:45Speaker 1: What's so interesting is, of course, we all know the
- 27:48Speaker 1: Civil War was bloody and something no one likes to
- 27:53Speaker 1: think about, not a proud moment in history. It was
- 27:58Speaker 1: probably led by the South. And I think in the future,
- 28:03Speaker 1: we're going to see the North wanting to break away.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Because think about this, Todd, as we get further down
- 28:09Speaker 1: the road and more people move to states like Florida
- 28:13Speaker 1: and Texas, Tennessee and South Carolina, you're going to see
- 28:16Speaker 1: the map in that direction. You're going to see more
- 28:21Speaker 1: districts in that direction. And as a result, you're going
- 28:25Speaker 1: to see maybe 10 years of imbalance in this country.
- 28:31Speaker 1: And as a result, the state will lose New York, California.
- 28:38Speaker 3: Let me jump in here. Guys, we have got a
- 28:41Speaker 3: very bad phone connection that is getting worse with Matt.
- 28:44Speaker 3: We're going to try to reconnect with him. So let's
- 28:48Speaker 3: put Matt on hold. But again, Matt in the book
- 28:52Speaker 3: is positing the theory that we could see a division
- 28:59Speaker 3: of the country along state lines and where we might
- 29:05Speaker 3: work together for the common defense. But the politics is
- 29:08Speaker 3: becoming so isolated that you could have red states and
- 29:15Speaker 3: blue states partner together. So we're going to take– we've
- 29:18Speaker 3: got Matt back. All right, Matt, I think we've got
- 29:21Speaker 3: you back. Let's circle back and share what you were
- 29:24Speaker 3: saying about the divisions of the states here.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Well, to be concise– It was the South that really
- 29:31Speaker 1: led towards the Civil War back in the 1860s. We
- 29:35Speaker 1: understand that sad period of time. And I'm from the South,
- 29:38Speaker 1: and I regret that. but it is what it is.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Now it's the northern states that have the incentive to
- 29:44Speaker 1: try to pull away because they are losing their population.
- 29:48Speaker 1: They're going to lose their electoral votes. They're going to
- 29:50Speaker 1: lose their congressional districts. And ultimately, they're going to see
- 29:53Speaker 1: the Supreme Court continue to move towards conservative appointees. And
- 29:59Speaker 1: they don't like the way things are running, so they're
- 30:02Speaker 1: going to want to end the filibuster. They're going to
- 30:03Speaker 1: want to stack the court. And if they can't do that,
- 30:07Speaker 1: they're going to want to pull away from the country.
- 30:09Speaker 1: And we polled New York, for example. The majority there
- 30:12Speaker 1: want to be no part of the United States. They
- 30:14Speaker 1: just want to be a part of the blue state.
- 30:16Speaker 1: So what I think is going to happen if we
- 30:18Speaker 1: don't get control of this country is that you're going
- 30:21Speaker 1: to see blue states form contacts, as we call them,
- 30:24Speaker 1: or contracts, in which they honor one another's laws. And
- 30:28Speaker 1: then that would lead to the red states having to
- 30:30Speaker 1: do the same thing. And the country would ironically go
- 30:33Speaker 1: back to being what it was supposed to be originally,
- 30:36Speaker 1: which is a smaller federal government designed for our defense,
- 30:40Speaker 1: for our protection, for interstate commerce, and for a common currency.
- 30:45Speaker 1: And there are probably a lot of people who would
- 30:46Speaker 1: like that. I'm not trying to be anti-American. But I
- 30:49Speaker 1: predicted a lot of things over the years, as you know, Todd.
- 30:51Speaker 1: I predicted that financial crisis. I predicted Donald Trump would win.
- 30:55Speaker 1: in 2016, I see this as a long-term trend, not
- 30:59Speaker 1: right now, but something in the future that we may
- 31:02Speaker 1: have to deal with.
- 31:03Speaker 3: Do you see the blue states continuing the slide towards socialism?
- 31:09Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. They have no reason not to. They are
- 31:12Speaker 1: controlled by groups that have tremendous influence, and they also
- 31:19Speaker 1: have allowed non-Americans, immigrants, to basically participate in their electoral process.
- 31:26Speaker 1: And they claim they don't. But in reality, what happens
- 31:30Speaker 1: is they become residents, they become citizens, they give them
- 31:33Speaker 1: driver's licenses. You can't ferret through who can vote and
- 31:35Speaker 1: who can't. And so sooner or later, these blue states
- 31:39Speaker 1: are going to go. They're not going to reverse. But
- 31:41Speaker 1: we're also seeing Florida, for example, great example of this.
- 31:45Speaker 1: If the Constitution had not been... It was amended, but
- 31:49Speaker 1: then there was a federal law that actually limited the
- 31:51Speaker 1: number of the members of Congress we can have. You
- 31:54Speaker 1: realize that under the original Congress right now, it would
- 31:57Speaker 1: have 10,000 members of the House of Representatives. And a
- 32:01Speaker 1: state like Florida would have upwards of 7,000 representatives in
- 32:05Speaker 1: the House of Representatives because it's grown so much. Well, obviously,
- 32:09Speaker 1: that's not where we are right now. But in the end,
- 32:12Speaker 1: states like Florida, South Carolina, Texas.
- 32:14Speaker 3: And others.
- 32:15Speaker 1: are going to have a tremendous influence over this country
- 32:18Speaker 1: that they've never had before. And that's going to sit
- 32:21Speaker 1: well with these blue states because they're not going to
- 32:23Speaker 1: change their ways.
- 32:25Speaker 3: I'm wondering, and I know you wrote about this, I'm
- 32:28Speaker 3: wondering how the founding fathers, if they could see what
- 32:31Speaker 3: the country has become today, how do you think they
- 32:34Speaker 3: would look at where we are?
- 32:36Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you. So I wrote The Honoring
- 32:38Speaker 1: of Ignorance, ironically, 40 years ago. I started on it
- 32:42Speaker 1: when I was a student at Cambridge University. And I
- 32:45Speaker 1: got a literary agent, and the agent was a well-known
- 32:48Speaker 1: one in New York. And they pitched it everywhere, and
- 32:51Speaker 1: publishers said, we love it, but he's too young to
- 32:54Speaker 1: say these things. Now, 40 years later, I may be
- 32:57Speaker 1: too old to say these things. But that said, the
- 33:02Speaker 1: founders would be shocked, because as you know, originally, we
- 33:06Speaker 1: weren't supposed to vote for president. Our legislatures were choosing
- 33:10Speaker 1: the electors. The electors then... would choose a president and
- 33:14Speaker 1: the runner-up would be the vice president. There were no tickets.
- 33:18Speaker 1: There were no parties. There was no filibuster. There was
- 33:21Speaker 1: no taxation system whatsoever. We had no federal tax. So
- 33:25Speaker 1: much of what we have right now in the federal
- 33:27Speaker 1: government did not exist and was not envisioned by the founders.
- 33:31Speaker 1: I think they would be shocked and they would be appalled,
- 33:33Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because we've allowed the media
- 33:36Speaker 1: to influence the mob and the mob to rule. And
- 33:40Speaker 1: that's a big issue Right now, as we see a
- 33:43Speaker 1: media that's planted in one direction, they use omission and
- 33:47Speaker 1: they use misinterpretation and selective reporting to influence the public
- 33:52Speaker 1: that then they get pollsters to validate. And then they
- 33:55Speaker 1: use these fact checkers to say their facts are correct
- 33:59Speaker 1: and anyone who is a conservative or has another view
- 34:01Speaker 1: is incorrect. And that is what I call the mirage machine.
- 34:05Speaker 1: I talk about it in the book. I show how
- 34:07Speaker 1: it works. And that's what's influencing politics in America right now.
- 34:14Speaker 3: It's a fascinating book, folks. You've got to get a
- 34:16Speaker 3: copy of it, The Honoring of Ignorance by Matt Towery.
- 34:20Speaker 3: And I think it's also a sobering look at what's
- 34:22Speaker 3: been happening in America and where all of this is going. Matt, congratulations.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Are you looking forward to getting out of the polling business?
- 34:30Speaker 2: I mean, retire.
- 34:31Speaker 1: I can't wait. Well, you know. I blame all this
- 34:35Speaker 1: on one person, Sean Hannity, because every time I try
- 34:37Speaker 1: to retire, Sean, and you know, Todd, we've known each
- 34:40Speaker 1: other for 40 years, and we talk a lot on
- 34:44Speaker 1: the phone. You're not going to retire. You're not retiring. Well,
- 34:46Speaker 1: I said, well, Hannity, you don't run my life. Well,
- 34:48Speaker 1: sure as heck, it gets me to do it again. So, no,
- 34:51Speaker 1: I told Sean, this is it. It's over. Forget it.
- 34:54Speaker 1: He could send me a Ferrari and buy me a
- 34:57Speaker 1: new house, and I wouldn't do it. So I'm through pulling.
- 34:59Speaker 1: But I'll still be there to interpret and give people
- 35:02Speaker 1: my opinions and to talk to great people like you.
- 35:05Speaker 1: And tell your folks to go to Amazon.com. It's the
- 35:07Speaker 1: honoring of ignorance. Get it, folks. You can fight anybody
- 35:12Speaker 1: who doesn't believe us with this book. I wrote it
- 35:15Speaker 1: for you. All right.
- 35:19Speaker 3: Been a busy, busy morning here at The Body 990.
- 35:22Speaker 3: Our good friends over at Calvary Baptist Church, Kirby Parkway,
- 35:26Speaker 3: inviting everybody to their free fall festival. That's happening Saturday afternoon,
- 35:31Speaker 3: 1 until 4 o'clock. They're going to have all sorts
- 35:33Speaker 3: of great stuff, food, activities for the kids, even going
- 35:36Speaker 3: to have a bounce house. Don't tell the Blackburn campaign.
- 35:39Speaker 3: They'll be putting together another AI video. So all of
- 35:43Speaker 3: that Calvary Baptist Church happening Saturday, their fall festival, that's
- 35:47Speaker 3: over on Kirby Parkway. And a reminder from our friends
- 35:52Speaker 3: over at AARP Mississippi, there is going to be a
- 35:57Speaker 3: free document shredding event happening Saturday. This is at the
- 36:02Speaker 3: Planters Bank on Getwell Road. You can bring up to
- 36:06Speaker 3: two bags or boxes of documents. That's two bags per person,
- 36:11Speaker 3: and they'll be happy to shred all of those documents
- 36:14Speaker 3: for you. That, again, is Saturday, Planters Bank, Getwell Road in.
- 36:19Speaker 3: south haven all right uh folks uh the conversation just
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