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Top 20 Wide Receivers 2024 · Sports Minds Fantasy Football

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SPEAKER_00: I'm doing very well, Manny.
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SPEAKER_00: Happy to be back with another week of football talk, another episode of Fantasy Fumble.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh we're gonna be talking about our top 20 wide receivers this week.
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SPEAKER_00: I know you and I have talked a little bit offline, but we haven't seen each other's lists yet.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, it's gonna be a good one, Joe.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome back, ballers.
2:15
SPEAKER_00: Let's get into the top 20.
2:17
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna kick things off with the number one wide receiver, CD Lamb.
2:25
SPEAKER_00: CeeDee Lamb is a machine.
2:27
SPEAKER_00: His targets, receiving yards, and touchdowns have seen a steady increase every year.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: He finished last season with 195 touches, 1,862 yards, and 14 touchdowns.
2:40
SPEAKER_00: Now it's obviously gonna be hard for Dak to replicate that kind of production.
2:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but the Cowboys have a strong offense, and CeeDee is clearly Dak's number one target.
2:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm definitely not gonna disagree with you there, Joe.
2:55
SPEAKER_01: Um and I'm gonna go ahead and jump right into my number one because I also have CD CeeDee Lamb number one.
3:06
SPEAKER_01: And the reason being he is gonna get that large target share, he was definitely getting uh he was the leading man in the NFL last year, 181 targets.
3:15
SPEAKER_01: So he's gonna continue to be that guy.
3:18
SPEAKER_01: No one's gonna even come close.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: And uh after the offseason the Cowboys had not getting a running back, they're gonna be passing a whole lot more.
3:26
SPEAKER_01: So uh it's just gonna be that kind of season, and the Cowboys are just gonna be basically trying to compete with teams and prove that they deserve to be there, but really we all know they're gonna be a French playoff team.
3:38
SPEAKER_01: So uh get CD, he'll get his points, guys.
3:41
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna be great for the fantasy run.
3:43
SPEAKER_01: Um obviously terrible for Cowboys fans.
3:47
SPEAKER_01: Ha ha ha.
3:49
SPEAKER_00: I know it's hard for you to say that, Manny.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: I know it's hard for you to give props to the Cowboys, but you know it is due.
3:55
SPEAKER_00: And did you know Dak finished third last year in fantasy points?
3:58
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that.
3:59
SPEAKER_01: So um I I was definitely surprised, and the ha ha wasn't the fact that I was giving CeeDee his props because even coming out of college, I thought he was a great player.
4:11
SPEAKER_01: It's the fact that the L season's still gonna suck, and CD's gonna be the lone bright spot on that whole team.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna be like Saquon when he was on the Giants.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's gonna be that bad.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: We'll but we'll see.
4:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
4:27
SPEAKER_00: Now at number two, I've got Tyreek Hill.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: He had another monster year last year, finished with actually 50 more receiving yards than CD Lamb, and they both averaged 23 fantasy points per game.
4:43
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, with a high-powered offense like the Miami Dolphins, uh, you know, and Tua continuing to feed him like a hungry dog, it's possible Tyreek finishes at the number one spot this year.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: Easily possible.
4:56
SPEAKER_01: I I have a slightly different opinion on number two, and it's it's it was really close for me.
5:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I and I the only reason why I have a different number two is because of my gut was just telling me this guy is just has something special.
5:12
SPEAKER_01: I have uh Monra St.
5:13
SPEAKER_01: Brown at number two this year.
5:17
SPEAKER_01: Man, just because if you had him on your team last year, you know how special this guy was.
5:21
SPEAKER_01: He was injured, he had a torn oblique last year, and the guy came out and he just balled.
5:27
SPEAKER_01: I mean, for four weeks.
5:29
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the guy was just playing off, you know, with a really bad uh injury, and and he just that told it tells you the type of toughness he has, and just watching like all the you know intangibles that he has.
5:43
SPEAKER_01: For example, like the team respects him as his leader, as their leader already.
5:47
SPEAKER_01: They're like, hey, we want to work hard like this guy, we want to work harder than him, and watching the videos on his dad.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: Like, I just think overall the culture that they built has given this guy the skills and the obviously the supreme route running, right?
6:03
SPEAKER_01: And determination in hands that you know he has can allow him with that target share to be potentially one of the top, if not the top, wide receiver in fantasy football this year.
6:17
SPEAKER_01: And that's that's some big balls takes right there.
6:21
SPEAKER_00: That is big balls, but I completely understand.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: And that segues perfectly into my number three, Aman Ross St.
6:31
SPEAKER_00: Brown.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: I completely forgot that he was injured for about a month last year.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: So, man, good call on that because he muscled through that injury, he played like a champion.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: His mindset on top of his skill set is why he's such a good player.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: And everyone expected him to be good, but not that good.
6:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, he had 10 touchdowns and averaged over 20 fantasy points per game.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: And we we love, you know, here again, we are Detroit Lions fans.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: We love the Detroit Lions.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, their entire offense is amazing.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: They work together like a well-oiled machine.
7:12
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, Amon Raw finished the season with over 1,500 receiving yards.
7:16
SPEAKER_00: I expect that to climb higher with a strong supporting cast and Jared Goff under center.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're gonna have people like uh Sam Laporta and Jameer Gibbs and Jameson Williams and Khalif Raymond getting targets too.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: Everyone's gonna be involved.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: But when you have a team that's that good and their offensive line is the number one in the league, when you're all working together that well, it only leads to production.
7:40
SPEAKER_00: And again, him being injured isn't something I even thought about.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: So great call on that, Manny.
7:45
SPEAKER_00: That's why um I have Amon Ra St.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: Brown at the number three spot.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: And another thing is Jared Goff never gets credit that he deserves.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the guy has been a stud every year he's been in the NFL, finished with over 45, actually close to 4,600 passing yards and 30 touchdowns last year.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: So that's a rock solid team.
8:06
SPEAKER_00: Amon Ra is my number three.
8:08
SPEAKER_01: Uh segues into my number three.
8:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh, we previously talked about him already.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: Tyreek Hill, right?
8:15
SPEAKER_01: I told you it was really close.
8:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean, Tyreek, uh, it doesn't matter how many options or mouse to feed there are, there's always the cheetah, right?
8:26
SPEAKER_01: Cheetah gets his dibs first, he's the fastest.
8:28
SPEAKER_01: So Tyreek is gonna get in there, he's gonna get his looks, and despite whether injury scare or not, what I like about his game now is Tyreek doesn't try to get hit like that anymore.
8:39
SPEAKER_01: He's smart, he runs out of balance, uh, out of balance, excuse me, out of balance.
8:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's got great balance, he has amazing balance, right?
8:50
SPEAKER_01: Uh but yeah, he's definitely uh an amazing player, and he could potentially be number one overall, right?
8:56
SPEAKER_01: These top three guys could be interchangeable, and the experts probably have them in their list, like one over the other.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: But uh these these are your cream of the crop.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: These are the guys that need to be going number one uh uh top top three as far as your wide receivers are concerned.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, absolutely.
9:18
SPEAKER_00: Now, bringing in the number four spot for me, and and you could even argue that the top five guys are interchangeable, but at the fourth spot, I've got Justin Jefferson.
9:30
SPEAKER_00: Let's just take a look at his first three seasons in the NFL.
9:33
SPEAKER_00: 1,400 yards, 1,600 yards, 1,800 yards.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: He was hurt for half the season last year and still finished with over a thousand receiving yards.
9:42
SPEAKER_00: Sam Darnold is a significant downgrade from Kirk Cousins.
9:47
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, Jefferson has seemed to be quarterback proof.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, he had a few different guys thrown to him last year, and you know, Josh Dobbs, Sam Darnold, doesn't really matter who it is, they're gonna feed him the ball.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: And um he proved that last year that it doesn't really matter who the quarterback is, came in at the end of the season, finished strong.
10:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, he's gonna have a massive target share.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: And um I expect him to easily finish in the top five, regardless of who's throwing on the ball.
10:17
SPEAKER_00: Now we do know that um JJ McCarthy's out for the season.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: That's that sucks.
10:24
SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, I don't think Sam Darnold is going to be a problem.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: I think Justin Jefferson will continue to produce.
10:36
SPEAKER_01: I'm a little bit more scared about uh Sam Darnold than than uh most, I guess.
10:42
SPEAKER_01: And that's just because his long body of work, but uh I'll talk about him a little bit uh later.
10:50
SPEAKER_01: My my number four guy I have here is actually uh guy I know all too well, Mr.
10:56
SPEAKER_01: Number 11 for the Philadelphia Eagles, AJ Brown.
11:01
SPEAKER_01: He's a guy that's stepping into a new offense with Kellen Moore.
11:05
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be an air raid type of offense, a lot of big air yards, a lot of big passing.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, a lot of people talk about Jalen Hurts' arm strength.
11:14
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna really get to see it this year because they're gonna be throwing a lot of really wide passing and really moving AJ Brown and Devontae Smith around, which I'm surprised they never did already.
11:26
SPEAKER_01: So you're gonna see these guys consistently getting their looks at every game, which they should have.
11:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I I think that's gonna give him his.
11:35
SPEAKER_01: And last year alone, if you looked at him, he was still averaging nine targets a game, and he ended up finishing with uh over two almost 300 fantasy points for the season in PPR.
11:47
SPEAKER_01: So and he didn't miss a single game.
11:49
SPEAKER_01: So the guy's durable.
11:50
SPEAKER_01: He's got his looks, yeah.
11:52
SPEAKER_01: He shut he got shut down a couple games and he had some blow up games, but I think this year is gonna be a little bit more consistent for his points.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: I agree with you, and I will touch on that a little bit more in a few minutes.
12:07
SPEAKER_00: Coming in at number five for me, I have Jamar Chase.
12:14
SPEAKER_00: He still passed 1200 yards last season with Burrow missing the second half of the season.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: If the offense finds their rhythm, which I think they will, then Chase can easily pass 1,500 yards.
12:27
SPEAKER_00: So that's why I put him in the the top five spot.
12:31
SPEAKER_00: You know, T.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: Higgins usually creates more opportunities, and um Zach Moss isn't really involved in the passing game like like Mixon was.
12:40
SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be uh a lot of targets going to Jamar Chase and T.
12:44
SPEAKER_00: Higgins, and um they really just need to protect Joe Burrow and keep him in the full season.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: They have improved their O-line a little bit, and hopefully that keeps Joe Burrow healthy all year.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: For my number five, I also have Jamar Chase, so we're in agreement for that.
13:05
SPEAKER_01: Last year was a bad year uh for Cincinnati fans, and of course, Jamar Chase, or down year, even considering he had 262 fantasy points in a PPR league.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh, the guy ended up still averaging nine targets a game, and and and still it seemed like a down year for the guy, right?
13:23
SPEAKER_01: Everyone was like very disappointed with him.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but at the end of the day, he still put up some numbers.
13:30
SPEAKER_01: So I I think that this year with a healthy Joe Burrow and his uh slim shady persona and attitude, you're gonna see a little bit of attitude this year with the Bengals.
13:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, they're gonna run the ball in your mouth uh with Zach Moss, right?
13:47
SPEAKER_01: That's smash mouth how they like to run it with Joe Mixon.
13:50
SPEAKER_01: So that's not gonna change.
13:52
SPEAKER_01: Um they're gonna hopefully pay T.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: Higgins and keep him on that offense because they're they're gonna need him.
13:58
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, they lose a pretty significant part of that air air attack.
14:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think overall, like there's plenty of targets that go his way.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: He just needs to take the next step.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: And uh, I think this year he can.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: Totally agree.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: Now at number six, I've got AJ Brown.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: Another amazing offense that works together like a well-oiled machine.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: The last two seasons, AJ was just shy of 1,500 receiving yards, but he's gonna pass that mark this year.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: Um Hertz and Saquon will confuse the defenses enough to create even more space and more opportunities for him.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, the same thing with with uh Devonta Smith.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: I think when you've got these really good, high-powered offenses, it's it's usually better for receivers.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's different if you've got a situation with Tank Dell in Houston where Stephon Diggs and Nico Collins will kind of push him down the ladder.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: But generally speaking, two high-level wide receivers will create more opportunities and they will feed off each other.
15:06
SPEAKER_00: And that's what I expect to see with AJ Brown and Devonta Smith this year, and that's why AJ is in the number six spot for me.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: Definitely our list is pretty interchangeable, like you were saying.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and like most experts, right?
15:21
SPEAKER_01: They might slip in a guy or two.
15:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, but for my number six, I do have Mr.
15:25
SPEAKER_01: Justin Jefferson.
15:29
SPEAKER_01: And this coming from a guy that I guess early on in the offseason, I actually had Justin Jefferson coming in at number one, actually, uh, before the just uh JJ McCarthy injury.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I saw I saw JJ McCarthy's you know first preseason game, and I was already like, okay, this guy's gonna be the starter, right?
15:50
SPEAKER_01: He's taking over for Sam Darnold, and so I had him like Justin Jefferson is gonna be eaten, you know, because if Kirk Cousins was in Minnesota this year, I would have Justin Jefferson as the number one overall pick, right, over anybody because I knew he'd had that kind of season.
16:06
SPEAKER_01: So unfortunately, that pushed him down my list a lot more than I like because of Sam Darnold and the uncertainty.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: And I think if I'm paying that kind of premium for a player, I can't rely on a second or third stream quarterback that couldn't even look good in a 49ers offense, you know.
16:25
SPEAKER_01: And that's with them pulling, you know, they literally pulled uh just Purdy and put Darnold there, and Darnold still looked like trash.
16:36
SPEAKER_01: So that that to me, and that's when uh McCaffrey was chasing that touchdown record.
16:41
SPEAKER_01: And believe you me, I was watching this very closely last year, trying to follow McCaffrey for touchdowns, uh, because I had him on my fantasy teams, and then he ended up uh breaking the streak.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: It was like uh week 16 or 17, and he ended up missing it, not getting the touchdown, but it was because they put Sam Darnold in there.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: So uh not to get on a ramble or side point, but just are good points.
17:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean uh but I just can't, I don't believe in Darnold, and I can't I can't gamble on him.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: So that that's my whole point.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: No, I mean you do make good points, and I'll just touch on it again because um I didn't realize you were that high on JJ McCarthy.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I love Kirk Cousins, so I completely understand what you're saying.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: It's a huge change.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Sam Darnold is a significant downgrade from Kirk Cousins, there's no question about that.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: But if you look at last year, Justin Jefferson didn't really play with Kirk Cousins.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: He was he had Josh Dobbs, Nick Mullins, and maybe Jared Hall.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: I can't remember if Jared Hall was actually involved or not.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I know he played with Josh Dobbs and Nick and Nick Mullins, and he still got over a thousand yards.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: So you could be right because Sam Darnold is is not the same guy.
17:58
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I mean I think Josh Dobbs is a better quarterback than than Sam Darnold.
18:04
SPEAKER_00: I like Josh Dobbs.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: If you look at the videos from last year, I was kind of biased towards Doc towards Josh Dobbs.
18:09
SPEAKER_00: I feel like he didn't really get a chance at any team he's been on yet.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: For me, a thousand yards is good, but is it first overall pick good, top five pick good?
18:19
SPEAKER_01: No.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: It you know, like he got injured, yes, you can't predict injuries, but you know, it was uh to me, you know, everyone's picking him over CMC, and all these experts had him mocked over CMC last year, and we were like, nah, CMC all day, you know, running backs all day over these guys, and and sure enough, that's the way to go, right?
18:41
SPEAKER_01: It's all we had it always has been is the more durable position is to go there.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: But um, at the end of the day, that's that's I guess my point is that I'm just not a fan of that, you know, or that in particular.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and I mean, I like I said, I do think that Sam Darnold is a problem, but I think Justin Jefferson's a guy that can go above and beyond no matter who's throwing him the ball and overcome those obstacles.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: But we'll see.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I really hope I'm right just because I love watching Justin Jefferson play football, you know.
19:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's he's special, all right.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: And the Eagles passed on him, and we got Jalen Rieger forever etched in my mind.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Howie.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: All right, all right.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: Um so at number seven, I've got Puka Nakua.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: Puka's the real deal.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: He proved it in many different games last year.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I I personally believe he's taken over as the number one wide receiver on the Rams.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: I know this this year's gonna kind of be the test because we're gonna see a healthy Cooper Cup and a healthy Puka right from day one.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: But for a rookie to finish the season with almost 1,500 receiving yards is insane.
19:58
SPEAKER_00: And especially with a group of wide receivers that were all really involved in the offense.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, you had 2-2 Atwell in the mix.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I just think that someone like him that's proven, I mean, he's a big guy, he's durable, he plays really hard.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: I think, again, that two high-level wide receivers are going to complement one each other.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: And Puka and Cooper are gonna have a better season in 2024 than they did in 2023.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: So he's a freak athlete, big rough player, loves being on the field.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: He's always got a smile on his face.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: I see him easily finishing in the top 10 this year.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: I definitely won't disagree with you in the top 10.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I have a slightly different player though for my number seven.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, I have uh Mr.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: Marvin Harrison Jr.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's right.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: I have a rookie at number seven.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: Here's why.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: Marvin Harrison Jr.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: is one of the most polished prospects you have probably seen in like, or any any scout has seen probably in the last couple of decades.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the funny thing is his his his comparison is Larry Fitzgerald as far as how ready he is made.
21:15
SPEAKER_01: And you saw the kind of career Larry Fitzgerald has had.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: I've seen his camp videos, I've seen his you know, college videos, and the guy passes die tests and everything.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: He looks amazing, he runs amazing routes, and all that talent has already translated to training camp, and he's burning everybody he's going against.
21:35
SPEAKER_01: So I just hope he keeps that going and he plays smart.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: Just like Puka had an amazing rookie season last year.
21:42
SPEAKER_01: I see Marvin Harrison having the same kind of season uh with Kyler Murray because you know Kyler likes to focus in on those uh wide receivers, and right now there's nobody on that team better than that guy, and he's gonna be feeding him all season long, and no one else in that pecking order, so I'm gonna be Taking that connection, and uh that's gonna be a really nice stack I'm gonna be loving to take advantage of this year as well.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: I completely agree with everything you said, and I'll touch on it a tiny bit more in a few minutes.
22:13
SPEAKER_00: Spoiler alert, he falls just outside of my top 10, but not very far down the list.
22:19
SPEAKER_00: Now at number eight, I've got Garrett Wilson.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh he finished his first two seasons with over a thousand receiving yards, and his QBs are garbage.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: So with Aaron Rodgers back on the field, expect some fireworks, some big plays to add to the highlight reel.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: With Garrett Wilson, there was really no competition at wide receiver.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, that hasn't changed.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: He's the only guy there.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: Mike Wilson is on the Jets now, or I'm sorry, Mike Williams is on the jets now.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: So hopefully he can stay healthy.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: I doubt it.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: But if he stays healthy and creates some space and creates more opportunities for Garrett Wilson, that would be awesome.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: Because even though Wilson's going to get a massive target share, as I've been saying, I think it helps to have two high-level wide receivers to create space and more opportunities, confuse the defense.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: And right now, I mean, in past the past two seasons, it's only been Garrett Wilson over there with some flashes here and there for some other guys.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: But really, if if Mike Williams doesn't step up to the plate, he'll be double double covered.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: And I would like to see him create more separation.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: And with Aaron Rodgers leading the team, I see that happening.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: I see Mike Williams being involved too.
23:37
SPEAKER_01: Some talent there for sure.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, I have a little bit different lineup, of course.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: This is where our lists are are going to start changing pretty significantly, of course.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh, or maybe off by a few players.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, obviously, right now I have Puka Nakua, right?
23:53
SPEAKER_01: We just talked about him.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: He's he's coming in at my number eight for a lot of the reasons you listed.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: You know, he's a top target, he's a great player, and you know, the only reason why he's coming in uh at this position is just because uh the guys above him, with the exception of the rookie, are all proven vets uh that played a little bit longer than him.
24:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but that's pretty much it.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, and touching up on your guy, Garrett Wilson, I definitely uh see him with Aaron Rodgers having a really great year for sure.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers is gonna get him in the end zone a lot more than he did last year.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: Garrett Garrett Wilson only had three touchdowns last year.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: That's definitely gonna change.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: And uh, like you were saying about Puka, he does have some competition from the veterans.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, two to Atwell, Robert Woods and Cooper Cup.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: But last year that wasn't an issue for him, and I think he has proven that he's the guy that should be getting the majority of the targets there.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously alongside of Cooper Cup.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: But we'll have to wait and see.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: Now at number nine, I've got, and and hear me out, because I know this is a bold prediction, but you know how we do here.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: We got big balls, so sometimes we gotta let them hang.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: And at the nine spot, I've got Drake London.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: He's an extremely talented player that should be getting double-digit targets every game.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: He finished his first two seasons with roughly 900 receiving yards each year.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: And Kirk Cousins at QB is a huge upgrade.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: I think he's gonna push Drake London to the next level.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: And you might be able to grab him in kind of the mid-rounds where people are sleeping on him because they remember, you know, people that aren't really paying attention remember the last two years, and they don't look at him as how much he can improve with Kirk Cousins throwing him the ball.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
25:55
SPEAKER_01: He he will be improving this year, and uh that is a big balls call for sure.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: But going on to my number nine, see, we talk about big balls.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: You know, I think this is kind of a big balls call here.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: I have uh Mr.
26:11
SPEAKER_01: Michael Pittman Jr., wide receiver for the Colts.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think with Anthony Richardson, he's gonna have a very big year because he's gonna be the red zone target.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna get a lot of looks.
26:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh Shane Steichen is their head coach and offensive, you know, he's gonna be their play caller, I'm sure.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: And he is just such an offensive guru.
26:34
SPEAKER_01: And and last year he got some he got a lot of looks to Pittman, and that's with Gardner Minshew throwing him the ball.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: So I can't imagine with an actual quarterback like Anthony Richardson.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: So they're gonna do a lot of those fake goal line, you know, sweeps, tosses out there to the streaking wide receiver.
26:52
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna see a lot of goal line packages like that.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, you're gonna see a lot of wide open because they like to run him in the slot a lot, so he has a lot of mismatches.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, but overall, I just think he's gonna have a good strong season, despite you know, there being some other really talented receivers on the field as well.
27:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I agree with that.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: And and um he's clearly a number one.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there might be some other talented guys on the field.
27:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh Pierce, I've always liked Pierce, but they're not gonna eat into his target share.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: And um, I'll I'll talk more about that later.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, he's a big, strong guy, plays rough.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: Kind of reminds me, you know, he's a similar player as Puka, you know.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: Big dudes that that play rough and always having fun out there.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: At the 10th spot, I've got Mike Evans.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: Mike Evans has been in the NFL for 10 years, and he's had over a thousand receiving yards every season.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: He has great rapport with Baker Mayfield, and he's still very hungry.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: As we saw last year, you know, every interview you saw with him, that dude stayed hungry his entire career.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: So there's no reason to doubt him.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: I expect another big season with over a thousand receiving yards and double-digit touchdowns.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: I didn't I didn't expect that last year.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: I was high on him last year, but I did not expect 13 touchdowns.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: If he can get 10 or get more, that would be amazing.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, he had a lot of yardage, a lot of targets, heavily involved, and I don't see that changing at all.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that I mean, uh, I'm gonna agree with you 100% because that's who I have at number 10 as well, Mike Evans.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: He had over 10 touchdowns.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was and like uh I'd say at least half done for over 50 yards.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: Like that's no, he had some monsters.
28:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he had some really cool plays.
28:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, if you had Mike Evans last year, you were at zero points in the first half, and the second half you were at like 30, because the guy was just catching like two bombs for like 100 yards and two touchdowns.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: It was crazy.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, the guy's a Hall of Famer, right?
28:59
SPEAKER_01: One of the greatest wide receivers we've probably ever seen.
29:02
SPEAKER_01: So the first one to start off his career 10 consecutive seasons with a thousand receiving yards, you know, each year.
29:10
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, the guy's you know has accolades for days.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, Super Bowl winner, like so he's gonna continue to do it.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: And Baker loved him, you know, he he locked into him, so he's gonna look for him again.
29:23
SPEAKER_01: A second year under his tutelage, you're gonna see a lot more comfort level there, and you're probably gonna see a lot more consistency to Mike Evans, right?
29:33
SPEAKER_01: So uh versus just it just being uh uh a Hail Mary toss-up.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: Now it's gonna be like Mike Evans getting fed all game long.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: So he's he could he might even finish higher on that list than some of these other guys we mentioned.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a great point.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, that was their first year together, and if they continue to build that rapport, you you're right, it's gonna be more comfortable, more consistent.
29:57
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, Baker Mayfield surprised a lot of people last year, including me.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: At the 11th spot, I've got Nico Collins.
30:07
SPEAKER_00: I doubted Nico Collins last year.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: I learned my lesson.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: He finished with all he finished with almost 1,300 receiving yards, and he's gonna continue making big plays with CJ Stroud throwing the ball to him.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: Stephon Diggs, yeah, he's on the team, but like I said earlier, that's just gonna create more opportunities for him.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: Just like they were doing with Tank Dell last year, those guys being the top two, it's now gonna be Stephon Diggs and Nico Collins.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: And Tank Dell's probably gonna be heavily involved still, but I see him as the odd man out out of those three.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: And I would not be surprised if Stephon Diggs takes the number one wide receiver spot, but in my opinion, right now, that belongs to Nico Collins, and that's why I'm ranking him at number 11 above Stefan Diggs.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Definitely that's that's a hard one, right?
30:57
SPEAKER_01: To judge which one of those two guys are gonna be the guy, right?
31:01
SPEAKER_01: Was it the guy that broke out last year, the guy that has always been the guy wherever he goes?
31:07
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, that's big balls call for sure, Joe.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: Um, for for my number 11, I actually have Garrett Wilson.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: I know you had him higher up on your lists.
31:19
SPEAKER_01: I just have him a little bit farther back.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: I've I've been watching a lot of uh behind the training camp, right, when it was starting off, and could be nothing, right?
31:28
SPEAKER_01: Could just be shaking off the rust, but Aaron Rodgers just looking a little bit rusty with his ankles, you know.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: He's uh limping a little bit, and so that I was just kind of a little bit worried about him getting injured again, what that quarterback situation would look like in New York.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, we already seen what that story looked like last year.
31:48
SPEAKER_01: Don't want a repeat of that again.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: And even despite that, Garrett did have decent uh production, but I think obviously being drafted in the uh second round, you want a player that's gonna be putting up a lot more consistent points.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: And I can't put my stock that high into a guy that is investing in a 40-something year old quarterback, right?
32:11
SPEAKER_01: So that's why the only reason why I have Garrett Wilson so far down, otherwise, he'd be in my top 10.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: And that's a valid point.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: It's a huge question mark with Aaron Rodgers because he has been off for a year.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if his heart's still in the game.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's talking about hosting some game show.
32:27
SPEAKER_00: Um wasn't he talking about hosting Jeopardy?
32:30
SPEAKER_00: But he is.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, I feel like Rodgers is one of those dudes that's so mentally tough that he can extend his career kind of.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm not comparing him to Brady, but I am.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: Um he can extend his career a couple more years just because he's got that mental toughness, and um he's he's a total stud.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's got the skill set too.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: And um I too I strongly believe he's gonna get Garrett Wilson in the end zone more than three times.
32:57
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: I I really hope uh that I'm right because I I drafted Garrett Wilson in one of my leagues last year, and man, that was tough.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: The only draft pick that was worse was Justin Jefferson coming in at the 12th spot for me.
33:15
SPEAKER_00: I've got Marvin Harrison.
33:20
SPEAKER_00: Basically the same exact reasons you were saying.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: Harrison's a beast.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: He's the number one wide receiver for Kyler Murray.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh, six foot four, uh, had over 1,200 receiving yards in his last two seasons at Ohio State.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: The recipe for success is there.
33:35
SPEAKER_00: We've seen how good he looks in training, and I think he could easily sneak into the top 10 if he develops a quick rapport with Kyler Murray, which appears to be already happening.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: So you might be more accurate with your call, but right now I have him at the 12 spot.
33:53
SPEAKER_01: I actually have Stefan Diggs at number 12.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: I think that Stefan Diggs is gonna have a little bit more of an impact because I think Nico Khan is more of a quiet guy.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, he's gonna kind of give away the number one spot to Diggs so he's happy because they want him to feel welcome.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: So, and and and basically Diggs wants to come in and be that guy.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: So they're gonna feed him a lot, but they're also gonna feed Nico a lot.
34:22
SPEAKER_01: And I think ultimately at the end of the day, the possession guy for the red zone might ultimately uh I think it'll be a dead split down the middle, but I think ultimately they might try to favor a little bit more to Diggs.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: So that's the only reason why I have him at number 12 over uh maybe Nico.
34:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, those are those are all good points, and I'm I'm just gonna continue on that because at 13, I have Stefan Diggs.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're talking about two spots.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: I have Nico Collins at 11, Stephon Diggs at 13.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: Basically, everything you said is true.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: I could see a lot of games similar to what we saw with Tank Dell last year, or you know, from one week to the next, they're going back and forth as the top receiver on the team.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: It's hard to predict right now, but Stephon Diggs is Stefan Diggs.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: He's been a beast his entire career, a thousand receiving yards over the last six seasons, always hungry.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: Love his attitude, love his pissed-off play style.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh, expect him to have a huge impact in Houston.
35:28
SPEAKER_00: And and I love uh Joe Mixon being there too.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: Just that that offense will come together so well, just like the Detroit Lions, and create a lot of confusion on defense and more opportunities on offense.
35:41
SPEAKER_00: Would not be surprised if he actually quickly becomes the wide receiver one.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but right now I'm I'm giving that spot to Nico Collins, but I really don't know.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: It could easily be Stefan Diggs.
35:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's uh that's my number 13 is Nico Collins, right?
35:59
SPEAKER_01: He has this the rapport with CJ Shroud, right?
36:03
SPEAKER_01: Are they gonna knock him back a peg, you know, to make digs fit in?
36:08
SPEAKER_01: That's what I think they're gonna do.
36:10
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's uh you know, Bobby Slovic's offense, right, for the offensive coordinator.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: And uh they do a really good job at taking players and and utilizing their strengths.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: And uh Diggs strength is a lot of possession, right?
36:25
SPEAKER_01: So they're gonna be using him a lot more in the red zone.
36:28
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna be using Nico to stretch out the field a lot more.
36:31
SPEAKER_01: So uh you'll you'll see Diggs break open a lot, but they're gonna want him to be like more of the third guy, third down guy, clutch guy.
36:39
SPEAKER_01: So you're gonna see him catching a little bit like that.
36:42
SPEAKER_01: But I think uh Nico is gonna get you a lot a little bit more yardage, and uh therefore they're gonna end up very close in yardage, and it's just or very close in points.
36:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, and last year having a target share of 7.2 targets per game, despite not having much competition, doesn't really have me jumping all over the place thinking his target share is gonna go up by much with digs there, you know.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely fair.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: Good points.
37:13
SPEAKER_00: Now you're making me think a little more.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: Now at number 14, I've got Devontae Adams.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I think I should have him in the top 10 because when you look back at the things he does, the plays he makes, he's gonna be successful with basically any quarterback.
37:30
SPEAKER_00: Similar to what I was saying about Justin Jefferson, they're quarterback proof.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: But the team as a whole still concerns me.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: Last year he wasn't quite the guy that everyone expected, and Jacoby Myers tapped into his target share a little bit.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: But but once Devontae got he once he built that rapport, he was the guy.
37:52
SPEAKER_00: It was clear he was the guy, and I do expect that to continue.
37:55
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna have a massive target share, and he always finds the end zone.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, he had eight touchdowns last year, and you know, that's on a new team where he was trying to get accustomed to the offense.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Now that he's been there for a year, he's gonna be more comfortable and probably just continue moving up the ladder, and Jacoby's gonna kind of level out.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: I have a slightly different player at my number uh 14 here.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: Um I actually have Cooper Cup at my number 14.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: And the reason being is because uh last year he did get injured early on.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, so he kind of came back a little bit slower.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: It's either he got injured early at uh and didn't play late.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: So uh so base or sorry, got injured a little bit later and didn't play.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, he was injured early and didn't play till later, right?
38:51
SPEAKER_01: Because that's where Puka really took off, was in the beginning half of the season.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: And it took him a long time to really get back to you know former shape.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: And knowing him, the kind of player he is, he's gonna get back to normal in no time, right?
39:05
SPEAKER_01: And now that he has a player that could take the attention off him, he's gonna go back to being the tactician that he is.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: Similar to how we talked about Nico Collins and Stefan Diggs, I see those two with the same dynamic.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: Puka is the stretch guy, he's gonna be the Y guy, you know, or actually he's gonna be the guy that's gonna be stretching the field, getting it wide open.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, and then uh obviously the possession guy is gonna be uh uh where Cooper Cup, right?
39:36
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna be the tactician, uh third down, the clutch guy.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, moving the chains.
39:41
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
39:41
SPEAKER_01: And Matt Stafford's gonna be trying to move the ball a lot.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: So uh, especially because their defense isn't very good, so they're gonna be down a lot of games.
39:50
SPEAKER_01: So that that's gonna cause them to be scoring a lot, and they were a juggernaut last year, so expect much of the same to repeat this this year.
39:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you remember last year how many people in in all our different leagues were hanging on to him, just hoping that he's gonna come back and be that guy.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: And I think you're right that he was not a hundred percent for the duration of the season.
40:13
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like the same thing we saw with Jonathan Taylor, where he really didn't get back until the end of the season.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, you don't want to rush back from an injury, especially when you know you're it's a knee injury and you and you're kind of just trying to ease back into 100%.
40:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we've seen it happen too many times, specifically with knee injuries, where someone comes back a little too quickly and then their career is kind of done.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: So good call.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: I hope, I hope Cooper is 100% healthy and we get to see him like we saw him a few years ago.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: Now at the 15th spot, I have Chris Olave.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: I've never really embraced all the hype around Chris Olave, and there's been so much hype around him since he came into the league for good reason.
41:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but just as I said a few minutes ago, uh with Devontae Adams and the Raiders, it's the entire offense that concerns me.
41:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh he's passed over a thousand yards his first two seasons, and I'm sure he's gonna have another solid season.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: But I'm I'm just a little concerned about the team as a whole.
41:24
SPEAKER_00: The Saints have been rocky for the last couple years.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: Derek Carr is a good quarterback, but he's streaky.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, a lot of the time when you get to the red zone, you've got Kamara eating up those targets or Taysom Hill.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: And I'm I'm just a little bit concerned about the offense, but Chris Olave is a rock solid player.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: He's a great wide receiver, too, to have on your team or a flex to have on your team.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: So I'm sure he's gonna have another good year.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure he's gonna pass a thousand yards, but the offense as a whole concerns me, especially since they have one of the worst offensive lines in the team.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, you got to protect your quarterback and keep Derek Carr in the whole season.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: We'll see if that happens.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: I hope it does.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, for Chris Olave's sake and for Alvin Kamara.
42:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I'm just not sure.
42:12
SPEAKER_00: Too many question marks for me right now to rank him above 15.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: Olave has a pretty good target share since he's been there.
42:21
SPEAKER_01: And and Carr has loved his deep man ever since he's been in the league, that's for sure.
42:27
SPEAKER_01: I have him a little bit farther down the list.
42:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh but going into my number 15, I do have Devontae Adams.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: The reason why I have him at 15 instead of a little bit higher than most experts have him is because they did just name Gardner Minshew as a starting quarterback.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: I think that that can help him overall on his fancy, but I don't know what kind of identity the Raiders are going to have this year.
42:57
SPEAKER_01: They lost Josh Jacobs.
43:00
SPEAKER_01: Um they also had you know Jacoby Myers last year get a lot more targets than Devontae Adams.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, Devontae still had a solid season.
43:11
SPEAKER_01: He still had over a thousand yards, he still had 10 targets a game, 175 targets on the season.
43:17
SPEAKER_01: He was almost, I mean, he was six targets away from being the the leading man in the league for target share.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: So it's not like he wasn't getting his looks, it just wasn't consistent.
43:29
SPEAKER_01: So uh as far as that overall, I think he can get a little bit more consistent target share with Gardner Minshew, but he has to stay healthy and he has to keep the job because it could be a quarterback carousel over there in Las Vegas once again this year.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, very very good points.
43:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's a good way to put it that they're trying to find their identity, and that carousel quarterbacks definitely concerns me too.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Now at the 16th spot, I have DK Metcalf.
44:06
SPEAKER_00: Another freak athlete, huge guy.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: He's like 6'4, 2'40.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: I expect him to have another solid season.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: Not a lot has changed in Seattle.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: So you kind of know what to expect when you draft him.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: About a thousand yards and eight to ten touchdowns.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: Last year, he did great.
44:25
SPEAKER_00: He's always fun to watch.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: And Lockett, as we were saying before, is a nice complement to his game.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: You're going to have those strange games where Lockett comes out on top, uh, you know, here and there.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: But overall, I like DK a lot more.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: And Geno Smith is consistent enough where you can trust DK.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: And you are going to have those huge games with DK too, where you know, he's in possibly the top five for wide receivers that week.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: So he's a great guy to have as your wide receiver, too.
44:56
SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, don't be surprised if he climbs up into the top 10 because we saw a few flashes last year where it looked like he was going to go down that path.
45:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's uh he's a very talented player.
45:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh great offense.
45:11
SPEAKER_01: Geno Smith is is not a bad quarterback whatsoever.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: Very consistent.
45:16
SPEAKER_01: And and two years ago, he was a comeback player of the year, wasn't he?
45:19
SPEAKER_01: So he he had uh a very good season.
45:22
SPEAKER_01: So for my number 16, I do have DJ Moore from Chicago.
45:29
SPEAKER_01: He has Caleb Williams throwing him the ball, so he's gonna be a very consistent force this year.
45:36
SPEAKER_01: He's a very good route runner, so I'm excited to see someone that can actually throw the ball to get it to him.
45:42
SPEAKER_01: Justin Fields has, you know, he's showing his true colors again.
45:46
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it's preseason, but um, you know, we don't really we don't really judge Kenny Pickett, same thing, right?
45:55
SPEAKER_01: There's they're showing their true colors.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: So for me, I just want to see I just want to see this guy succeed.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: So more will be the top option there.
46:04
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna get some big yards.
46:06
SPEAKER_01: Caleb's gonna let that ball go, and I can see him being one of your best fantasy wide receivers, and and he ended up being in the top seven last year, anyways.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: And that's considering the guy didn't even get a consistent workload until like second half of the season almost.
46:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, because the first half he was very quiet, and then the second half he was just exploding.
46:29
SPEAKER_00: That was so fun to watch.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: Ridiculous.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: I I got him in a couple leagues via trade after his slump, and let me tell you, it paid dividends, and then some.
46:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh now at the 17 spot, uh actually a good bit distance away from you, I have Michael Pittman Jr.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: Another great player that everyone's expecting to have a breakout season.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but with that said, he's been rock solid the last three years.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: And with Anthony Richardson back on the field, I see Pittman just going to the next level, putting up some very impressive numbers, but he needs to find the end zone.
47:10
SPEAKER_00: You know, he had four touchdowns last year.
47:12
SPEAKER_00: I expect that number to double this year.
47:15
SPEAKER_00: And uh he still averaged over 15 fantasy points a game.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he's very involved in the offense.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: And with a healthy JT and a healthy Anthony Richardson, they're gonna have more opportunities spread out the field, and he's gonna be a very, very uh consistent player, in my opinion, a lot more consistent than last year.
47:37
SPEAKER_01: For my number 17, I actually have DK Metcalf, which is only a couple spots away from you.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: You know, DK is number one on his team.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: He's had some really big weeks over the last couple of seasons.
47:52
SPEAKER_01: Why do I have him this far back?
47:54
SPEAKER_01: You know, yada yada.
47:56
SPEAKER_01: And I I thought about it, um he only had like seven and a half targets a game last year, and uh that's with Tyler Lockett and Jackson Smith and the Jigba on the team.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: So I think that looking at it this year, I think Jackson, Smith, and the Jigba is getting a bigger role.
48:12
SPEAKER_01: So uh I and maybe if Locker gets traded, maybe that does give him a bigger role, but I don't see that happening so far until the trade deadline, maybe.
48:24
SPEAKER_01: So as far as that's concerned, I still think he'll be a great solid addition, like as a wide receiver to your team, but he's not gonna be the star we probably expected him to be a couple of seasons ago.
48:37
SPEAKER_01: So if you get him and he's your best receiver on your team, you better have some really stud running backs because uh unfortunately your league's probably gonna be a long season.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: We've seen the ups and downs with DK.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh that's like the most frustrating thing about him as a player.
48:54
SPEAKER_00: You see a couple of those big games and start them, and then you see a couple of those duds.
48:59
SPEAKER_00: It's just the way it is.
49:03
SPEAKER_00: Now, at the 18th spot, I have Brandon Ayuk.
49:09
SPEAKER_00: His receiving yardage has increased with every season so far.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: He's looked better every year on the field, too, like visually when you're watching him play.
49:18
SPEAKER_00: He just looks better and better.
49:19
SPEAKER_00: And I see that continuing this year.
49:21
SPEAKER_00: If he can reach double-digit touchdowns, I mean, I think that's going to lock him in as the wide receiver one on the 49ers.
49:28
SPEAKER_00: But if you look at the stats from last year, uh, he had more touches than Debo.
49:33
SPEAKER_00: And Debo's a really, really good player, but he was a lot more involved before McCaffrey got in the mix because he was pretty much the running back, too.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: So now with him not running the ball like he used to, and CMC just taking over as that workhorse, I feel like Brandon Ayuk has kind of proven himself already as the wide receiver one.
49:59
SPEAKER_00: So that's why I have him at the 18th spot.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he's been slowly eating into Debo's target share, and I think that's just going to continue this year.
50:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:10
SPEAKER_01: Uh Ayuk has he's a talented player, he's the true wide receiver one on that team.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: And you're right, Debo's a wide back, and his role is diminishing, and he was paid number one in numbers, and now 49ers realize they got dilemma on their hands.
50:26
SPEAKER_01: And me as an Eagles fan, I love it.
50:29
SPEAKER_01: Because now they have a problem with payroll.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: So, oh well.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: And then and let's also remember that that Debo's got a pretty long injury history, too.
50:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so they they signed the wrong guy because if they lose Iuk, then it was all for naught.
50:46
SPEAKER_01: But for my number 18, I of course have a guy you had a little bit harder higher up.
50:51
SPEAKER_01: I think you had him at 15, but Chris Olave.
50:56
SPEAKER_01: You know, uh I had him farther on my list before I did have to bump him up because with Derrick Carrie, he had 8.6 targets a game, and that's pretty good.
51:06
SPEAKER_01: He averaged almost 15 points a game in PPR formats, so he was a pretty consistent scorer.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: He didn't have anything too sexy, he wasn't blowing up the scoreboard, but he was getting you your consistent 14 points to 15 points a game week in, week out.
51:22
SPEAKER_01: So that's the kind of player you you like as later on in the draft, but for his ADP, he's simply getting grabbed in the third or fourth round.
51:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that that's worth it for a player that you know you're only getting 14 points a game from.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean, in the fourth round, you grab yourself uh still a 15 to 20 point running back, you know, uh, or there's higher scoring wide receivers, in my opinion, you know, possibly, uh, depending on who's on the board.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: So not necessarily, you know, my top choice, but you are taking a risk with Derek Carr, right?
51:59
SPEAKER_01: So and Spencer Rattler isn't really, you know, giving me the warm and fuzzies either.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: So so to me, I do have him talent talent-wise as number number 18, but overall it's still a question mark.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: And and you're right, I I didn't give him enough credit for his consistency.
52:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, he was very consistent last year, getting you 14-15 points.
52:23
SPEAKER_00: And that's that's not bad at all.
52:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, I take that over the ups and downs that you might get with with someone like DK Metcalf, but that's just my opinion.
52:34
SPEAKER_00: Now at number 19, I've got DJ Moore.
52:41
SPEAKER_00: He's been quietly producing his entire career.
52:44
SPEAKER_00: He finished last season with 1,364 receiving yards and eight touchdowns, and then total, he had nine touchdowns, averaged 17 fantasy points per game.
52:54
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, the problem is he's been stuck on two bad teams that can't find a reliable quarterback.
53:01
SPEAKER_00: I think that's gonna change with Caleb Williams leading the Bears.
53:05
SPEAKER_00: And if they find a good rapport, he could easily be in the top 10.
53:08
SPEAKER_00: No question.
53:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and for the reasons I listed as well, you know, like I'm a big fan of DJ Moore.
53:16
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna be the number one and he's gonna continue to dominate.
53:19
SPEAKER_01: For my number 19, I have a guy here that has been uh overlooked only because he hasn't had a good quarterback in a long time and he finally has one.
53:30
SPEAKER_01: But scary Terry McLaurin, uh, he has got Jaden Daniels throwing him the football now.
53:38
SPEAKER_01: You know, last year he was averaging almost eight eight targets a game.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: He had over 210 fantasy points uh for the season, uh, and that's in PPR formats, of course, guys.
53:50
SPEAKER_01: And he was averaging 12 points a game, so he wasn't really lighting up the scoreboard, but he had some really hard catches, and and let's just face it, the the Washington football team was just a uh dumpster fire of football players.
54:06
SPEAKER_01: So to be able to do that with that kind of team was really impressive.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: So I actually think they look pretty good this year with all the free agent acquisitions, so it remains to be seen uh how good of a season he'll have, but I think it'll be a step in the right direction.
54:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I I was uh high on a few different players last year.
54:26
SPEAKER_00: You know, I you know how high I was on Jahan Dotson.
54:29
SPEAKER_00: Um and Sam Howe impressed a lot of people, you know.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: There were a few years, uh a few weeks where he was finishing in the top three, top five.
54:38
SPEAKER_00: And um the issue is just with their consistency and their offensive line is horrible.
54:45
SPEAKER_00: So um I love Jaden Daniels this year.
54:48
SPEAKER_00: I think he's gonna be an absolute beast.
54:51
SPEAKER_00: And I see Terry McLaurin uh being a huge benefactor of that success.
54:58
SPEAKER_00: Rounding out my top 20, I have my boy Rasheed Rice.
55:05
SPEAKER_00: Everyone's been waiting on a wide receiver one in Kansas City since Tyreek left, and I believe Rasheed Rice is that guy.
55:13
SPEAKER_00: You know, you obviously have Travis Kelsey pretty much operating as the wide receiver one since Tyreek left.
55:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I think that right now we're seeing Kelsey kind of slow down a little bit.
55:26
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, Rasheed Rice just finished his rookie season with 938 receiving yards and seven touchdowns.
55:32
SPEAKER_00: Expect those numbers to get better as he continues to build his rapport with, you know, one of the best quarterbacks in the league and Patrick Mahomes.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: Um they're a very involved offense all around.
55:43
SPEAKER_00: You know, you've got uh you've got every defense wondering what they're gonna do.
55:47
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't seem to matter with Patrick Mahomes who he's throwing the ball to.
55:51
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna spread the ball out, he's gonna make plays, and I think with Rasheed Rice getting more comfortable in that offense, it's just a recipe for success where I see him getting well past a thousand receiving yards and possibly double-digit touchdowns.
56:09
unknown: Okay.
56:10
SPEAKER_01: That is actually a big balls call.
56:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't any of the all the mock drafts I see and everything I see online, uh, no one even has received to the top top 20 because uh is he facing a suspension or anything for that DY Ress or has has nothing come back down the pipeline yet?
56:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't think they've I don't think they've said anything yet.
56:32
SPEAKER_00: And just the way the NFL is, I feel like he's gonna get out of it.
56:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because that's usually what they do is give him a pass.
56:39
SPEAKER_01: If that's the case, I mean what you're you're saying, like threw him up my draft boards for sure.
56:45
SPEAKER_01: Like I I don't know at the top 20, but definitely higher than I had them before, you know, by a lot.
56:51
SPEAKER_01: So it it made me think a lot.
56:53
SPEAKER_01: I was like, well, I gotta look more into that suspension because I is there even a suspension, or am I assuming, you know?
57:00
SPEAKER_00: No, they they they are talking about one, but I don't last time I checked, nothing has been put in writing about it being official.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: And we've seen over the years so many different players that are facing a suspension and then it gets pushed.
57:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, Alvin Camaro is a perfect example of that, but yeah, we'll see.
57:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely a a big balls call right there, Joe.
57:25
SPEAKER_01: I like it.
57:26
SPEAKER_01: I like it a lot.
57:27
SPEAKER_01: Um rounding off my top 20.
57:30
SPEAKER_01: The final guy to squeeze in there is a guy uh that you had way higher up here.
57:35
SPEAKER_01: I think you had him in your top 10, but I have Drake London at number 20.
57:39
SPEAKER_01: He did manage to stay on the list.
57:44
SPEAKER_01: Kirk Cousins edition does keep him on that list.
57:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh, he is a top guy there.
57:49
SPEAKER_01: I do, however, think that Kirk Cousins is not going to come back until a couple weeks in, right?
57:54
SPEAKER_01: Because he did tear his Achilles uh later on in the season.
57:58
SPEAKER_01: So that's still a nine-month recovery, and he doesn't have any superhuman genes or anything like that.
58:04
SPEAKER_01: He's just a nerdy white dude from superf you know, like no offense to any of those guys out there, but you know, you see somebody like Nick Chubb, for example, right?
58:16
SPEAKER_01: Towards ACL, PCL, he's over here squatting 500 pounds, or like Saquon Barkley, they're like superhumans.
58:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then you get Kirk Cousins.
58:26
SPEAKER_01: I was like, I think he's like me, he's gonna take the regular time to recover, right?
58:31
SPEAKER_01: As a matter of fact, I might take longer than the normal athlete because I'm screwed up.
58:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they might I'm sure they're pumping him full of some good shit, but yeah, you're right.
58:41
SPEAKER_00: He's not superhuman, yeah.
58:43
SPEAKER_01: So so that's gonna take off a couple games.
58:45
SPEAKER_01: So that's why I had him drop in my rankings, and uh right now he's going around the third round.
58:51
SPEAKER_01: So for me, I'd rather take in the fourth round, I'd rather take you know, Nico Collins, Stephon Diggs, Cooper Cup, you know, those guys we're talking about.
59:00
SPEAKER_01: These guys are all going in the same range, and that's why I have them near the bottom of the list because I don't want to be forced to take a guy that I think could possibly be affected early on when those wins really matter, you know.
59:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely true.
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59:24
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59:29
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59:34
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59:50
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59:53
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59:55
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