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Birds Weekly With Ray Didinger, Derrick Gunn: "What We Saw Was A Throwback Game" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey, there are another edition of Birds Weekly. It's locked
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Speaker 1: and loaded. It is brought to you by the inside
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Speaker 1: of the Birds Network. For my man, Ray didn't dro
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Speaker 1: I'm Derek Gunn and Ray. That was a Monday night
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Speaker 1: was interesting, to say the least. It was nothing like
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody expected when you talk about two
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Speaker 1: offenses that can put points on the boards, two quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: that were completing over seventy percent of their passes, and
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Speaker 1: it was a sloppy first half. It was an inconsistent
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Speaker 1: first half. It was a zero zero first half. Right,
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Speaker 1: There's been a long time since I've seen a zero
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Speaker 1: zero first half.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. But you know, I kind of found
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Speaker 2: myself agreeing with what Joe Buck said, yeah, which at
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Speaker 2: halftime where he said, you know there there, Normally you
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Speaker 2: see zero zero and you think that that hasn't been
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Speaker 2: a very interesting game. But you have a zero zero
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Speaker 2: game here and I find it very compelling. And I
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Speaker 2: did too. I've you know, I'm the guy I like
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Speaker 2: good defense. Yes, I like you know, my favorite era
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Speaker 2: of football was the back before.
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Speaker 3: They changed the rules.
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Speaker 2: You know, those a lot of those ten to seven
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Speaker 2: games that the Steelers used to win the old Steel
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Speaker 2: Curtain and the old Oakland Raiders and the love You
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Speaker 2: Blue Oilers. I mean, there was a lot of rock
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Speaker 2: em soccam football back then. It was kind of low scoring,
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Speaker 2: but I found it pretty exciting. Uh And I kind
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Speaker 2: of felt that what we saw on Monday and night
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Speaker 2: was kind of a throwback game in that respect. I
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Speaker 2: mean it was well, you had, we had two really
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Speaker 2: good defenses, which you knew going in, uh, and they
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Speaker 2: were on full display in that game. And I enjoyed
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Speaker 2: it and certainly enjoyed the outcome. I mean, to see
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Speaker 2: the Eagles sitting where they are right now seven and two,
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Speaker 2: They're sitting in a pretty good spot.
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Speaker 1: You know, Ray's let's start with defense, because what Vic
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Speaker 1: Fangio did was incredible when you consider you incorporated new
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Speaker 1: pieces to the equation coming out of the by. You
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Speaker 1: held the green Bay offense that was averaging almost three
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards a game to under three hundred yards.
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Speaker 1: You got three quarterback sacks on Jordan Love. They deployed
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Speaker 1: a two D two deep safety technique. They stayed with
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Speaker 1: it the whole game, kept everything in front of them.
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Speaker 1: They were committed to make sure green Bay could not
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Speaker 1: get anything deep on them. Although I was surprised that
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Speaker 1: Green Bay went to the running game as much as
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Speaker 1: they did, especially in the first half when offenses really
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Speaker 1: weren't doing much of anything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did run it more than I thought. And
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Speaker 2: you know, Jacobs and we talked about this last week.
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Speaker 2: Jacobs had not he was averaging in less than four
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Speaker 2: yards carry. So they were a team that they hadn't
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Speaker 2: run the ball all that successfully. I mean, he got
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Speaker 2: in the end zone, he had some touchdowns, but on
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Speaker 2: a down to down basis, they weren't dominating on the
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Speaker 2: ground that much. But they certainly came out with the
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Speaker 2: idea they were going to run in this one. And
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Speaker 2: you know, I think maybe it might have been because
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Speaker 2: sometimes if you're an offense and you know the team's
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Speaker 2: going to play the two deep safeties and they were
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Speaker 2: going to play a lot of cover too, one way
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Speaker 2: and kind of get them out of it is to
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Speaker 2: run the ball. And if you can run it successfully,
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Speaker 2: then you make them change and then they start bringing
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Speaker 2: us safety down and you can create some of the
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Speaker 2: opportunities down the field. We see that all the time,
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Speaker 2: and I'm kind of guessing that's what Matt mcfluir was thinking,
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Speaker 2: But the Eagles run defense, which early in the year
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Speaker 2: was not that great. We talked about that, it's gotten better,
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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, if you just look back over
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Speaker 2: the last I think, like three games early earlier in
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Speaker 2: the season, they were given up an average of one hundred
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Speaker 2: and twenty seven yards a game on the ground. In
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Speaker 2: the last three games, I think, no, I guess with
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Speaker 2: last two games, not the first Giants game, but since
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Speaker 2: then it's been.
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Speaker 3: Like eighty seven.
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Speaker 2: Like they've knocked that figure down by about forty yards
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Speaker 2: a game. So they're playing better run defense. And they
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Speaker 2: didn't give the Packers. I mean, they certainly tried it,
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Speaker 2: but they didn't. But the Packers didn't have a whole
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Speaker 2: lot of success running the ball, and they were short
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Speaker 2: on receivers. There's no question about that. They were missing
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Speaker 2: some of their receivers, especially Kraft, and the Eagles had
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Speaker 2: them bottled up pretty much the whole game. And you
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Speaker 2: said it, I mean, the pressure they were able to
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Speaker 2: get on Jordan Love really was the difference. I Mean,
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Speaker 2: he sacked them street times, but they were bothering them
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Speaker 2: and they were harassing him, and they were hurrying him
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Speaker 2: pretty much. The whole game, and that was the story.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Eagles really had that offense bottled up, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, right when you look at Fangiel's defense the entire season.
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Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, there's no way this team
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Speaker 1: is seven and two without some of the plays, especially
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Speaker 1: timely plays this defense has made to bail them out
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Speaker 1: time and time again along the way. What has impressed
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Speaker 1: you most about Vick Fangils defense, And for me, it's
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Speaker 1: been they're not a I don't want to, I can't
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Speaker 1: call them a stout defense. They're a good defense, They're
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Speaker 1: not a stout defense, but they're an opportunistic defense, which
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Speaker 1: has really turned the tides for them in a number
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Speaker 1: of games this season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the the things that it stood out
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Speaker 2: to me is the fact that they.
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Speaker 3: Have been so good in the red zone. Yep.
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Speaker 2: You know, teams have, teams have moved the ball on them,
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Speaker 2: but when they get inside the twenty, the Eagles shut
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Speaker 2: them down and force them to kick field goals. And
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Speaker 2: I think that's that's kind of what it's been, and
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Speaker 2: that's kind of what that's kind of the philosophy that
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Speaker 2: Vic works under is you know, all you can move
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Speaker 2: the ball, he gets the first downs, but when you
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Speaker 2: get inside the twenty, we're not going to you're not
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Speaker 2: going to get.
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Speaker 3: In the end zone.
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Speaker 2: And that's and that has been the case. And you
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Speaker 2: know that's one of some games. I mean, really, if
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Speaker 2: you look at their overall statistics, where they rank overall offense,
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Speaker 2: where they rank overall defense, those numbers don't usually equate
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Speaker 2: to seven and two. I mean, they're kind of here
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Speaker 2: because when they're on offense, they've been very good in
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Speaker 2: the red zone. They've been very good scoring touchdowns, and defensively,
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Speaker 2: they've been really good about keeping other teams out of
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Speaker 2: the end zone. In those two critical areas, that's where
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Speaker 2: they played their best football.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about a few of the pieces they've incorporated,
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Speaker 1: and let's start with my man, Brandy Graham.
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Speaker 3: We figured, we talked about this.
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Speaker 1: We figured he was going to play maybe ten fifteen
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Speaker 1: snaps per game, but no more than that. He played
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Speaker 1: ten snaps and his maiden voids returning to the Philadelphia
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Speaker 1: Eagle didn't have much of an impact. But here's here's
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Speaker 1: where his impact really lies, right being there talking these
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Speaker 1: young guys through situations, giving them an ear, an extra
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Speaker 1: ear in a lot of ways. I've said this time
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Speaker 1: and time again. A lot of times players learn more
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Speaker 1: from other players than they do coaches or watching film
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Speaker 1: for that matter.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely no, no question about that. And that's that's usually
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Speaker 2: how good teams work, you know. I mean the coaches
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Speaker 2: and smart coaches know this. That the coaches talk all
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Speaker 2: the time, and at a certain point, I don't want
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Speaker 2: to say they tune the coach out, right, good coaches don't.
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Speaker 2: You don't tune good coaches out. But sometimes you need
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Speaker 2: that other voice because the coaches will say what coaches
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Speaker 2: are going to say. But when it's coming from the
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Speaker 2: guy in the locker next to you, when it's coming
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Speaker 2: from the twelve year vet across the room, it's coming
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Speaker 2: from one of those guys that you're actually strapping it
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Speaker 2: on with every week, it resonates more. And I think that,
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Speaker 2: you know, I think that's valuable, especially when you have
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Speaker 2: a team. When you look at this team top to bottom,
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Speaker 2: this really is a very young team.
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Speaker 3: Yes, uh.
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Speaker 2: And it helps to have veteran players who are winners,
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Speaker 2: who have had success, and our guys that are smart.
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Speaker 3: And know when to speak and what to say.
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Speaker 2: And I think the Eagles said I mean, you get
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Speaker 2: a guy that Clayte Johnson absolutely is like that back
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Speaker 2: in you know, going back a few years, Brian Dawkins
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Speaker 2: was absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Like that, and Brandon Graham.
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Speaker 2: You know, it probably does it in a little more
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Speaker 2: cheerful way, but but the fact is he's you know,
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Speaker 2: he is he is. He is wise in the ways
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Speaker 2: of football, and he's played more games and more seasons
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Speaker 2: than anybody has ever worn that uniform. So having him
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Speaker 2: in the locker room, to me is nothing but a positive.
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Speaker 1: You know, everybody was hitting the rumor merl hard and
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Speaker 1: heavy about the Eagles trying to get Miles Garrett from Cleveland,
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Speaker 1: but kudos to Howie forgetting I think, in a lot
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Speaker 1: of ways, just a good of choice in Jalen Phillips,
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Speaker 1: a guy who already knows Fangio's defense. He comes in
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Speaker 1: his first game as an Eagle, has less than two
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Speaker 1: weeks to get ready for this game. He plays fifty
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Speaker 1: three percent of the snaps, he has six tackles, a
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Speaker 1: tackle for a loss. You know, two quarterback hits man
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Speaker 1: and and played the run very well in Fangio's scheme
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Speaker 1: Monday night as well. I have no problems with this addition,
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Speaker 1: I mean he gives you that that presence off the
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Speaker 1: edge you didn't have it for. He gives you another
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Speaker 1: stout body against the run. I think he's a perfect
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Speaker 1: fit for what this Eagles need, A team needs, uh
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Speaker 1: in this stretch run.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And he made that and that
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Speaker 2: was pretty obvious in his very first game. I mean,
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Speaker 2: what what a difference he made. And on the other side,
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Speaker 2: getting Nolan Smith back to getting getting both of those
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Speaker 2: guys with that high energy, high motor kind of play
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Speaker 2: on the edge really made a difference. And you know
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Speaker 2: when I after they third round pick, I mean third
10:19
Speaker 2: round pick ain't nothing. I mean third round pick has value. Okay,
10:22
Speaker 2: so you gave up something to get this guy. But
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Speaker 2: I thought absolutely was worth a shot. I know his
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Speaker 2: injury history is everybody knows that at this point.
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Speaker 3: Everybody knows it.
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Speaker 2: But you know, I look back at you know, I
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Speaker 2: remember when he came out in the twenty twenty one draft.
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Speaker 2: I remember really liking him, and in the time after
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Speaker 2: they got him, I went back into my file cabinet
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Speaker 2: here and pulled out my notes from the twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: one draft. Uh, and in fact, I have him, have
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Speaker 2: him right here, and I didn't realize that when I
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Speaker 2: look back at it, I him is the number two
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Speaker 2: as my number two edge rusher.
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Speaker 3: In that whole trend.
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Speaker 2: Wow, And my two, actually my two, my number one
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Speaker 2: and my number two were both the defensive ends from Miami.
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Speaker 2: It was Greg Russo and Jalen Phillips for my two
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Speaker 2: top pass rushers.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I thought he was that good then.
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Speaker 2: Now he came to Miami not the best of situations,
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Speaker 2: had injury issues which.
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Speaker 3: He had had before. But when he played, he played very.
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Speaker 2: Well, and interestingly enough, his best football he played the
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Speaker 2: year he played under Vic Fangio. So that's why I
11:36
Speaker 2: thought bringing a guy in that has those kinds of
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Speaker 2: skills and reuniting him with a coach with whom he's
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Speaker 2: already had a lot of success, to me, made perfect sense.
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Speaker 2: And you know when you saw, you know, when you
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Speaker 2: saw his arrival in Philadelphia, when you saw the interview
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Speaker 2: he did with John Clark down at the airport, when
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Speaker 2: he as soon as he stepped off the plane, you know,
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Speaker 2: with Big Damas scorting him for the airport, I mean,
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Speaker 2: you could see how excited he was to be here
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Speaker 2: and to be on a team where he has a
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Speaker 2: very realistic chance to get to a super Bowl, and
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Speaker 2: he was he was itching to go, and he brought
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Speaker 2: it all on Monday night.
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Speaker 1: His exact quote in the locker room was, this is
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Speaker 1: the greatest day of my life.
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Speaker 3: And you know, and when you hear that, you go, huh,
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Speaker 3: this is the greatest day of your life.
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Speaker 1: And then when you think about it, he was with
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Speaker 1: the team in Miami that's going nowhere fast and he
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Speaker 1: comes to the defending Super Bowl champions that right now
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Speaker 1: has the number one seed in the NFC and it
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Speaker 1: just to hear him say that, that tells you.
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Speaker 3: That told you how.
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Speaker 1: Bad he wanted to get out a jail free cart
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Speaker 1: from Miami.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and he played like it, you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen guys come into town and they
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Speaker 2: say all the right stuff about how excited they are
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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, and sometimes it sometimes sometimes it
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Speaker 2: translates to the field, sometimes it doesn't.
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Speaker 3: But in this case it absolutely did.
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Speaker 2: And getting him back, and as they said, Nolan Smith
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Speaker 2: back and BG for a certain number of snaps really
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Speaker 2: made that defensive front look a whole lot better than
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Speaker 2: it was before. And you know, you're that was a
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Speaker 2: great one on Monday night. But they got to keep
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Speaker 2: it going. I mean, because they got the Lions and
13:19
Speaker 2: Jared Goff coming in this week, and then they got
13:21
Speaker 2: to go down to Dallas and face Dak Prescott the
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Speaker 2: week after that. The road doesn't get any easier. But
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Speaker 2: they certainly took care of business on Monday night. And
13:31
Speaker 2: you know, you look around. I had to look it up.
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Speaker 3: When's the last time the Eagles scored ten points in
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Speaker 3: a game? And one?
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Speaker 2: Well, in two thousand and two, Derek got to go back.
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Speaker 2: They played the Saint Louis Rams and won a ten
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Speaker 2: three game at the Old Vet. So that's you don't
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Speaker 2: win scoring ten points a game very often today's NFL.
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Speaker 2: But the Eagles were able to do that Monday night.
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Speaker 2: And hats off to Vic Fangio's defense because they were
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Speaker 2: the difference in this game.
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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times things that players accomplished
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Speaker 1: are not measured by individual stats. And you know, the
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Speaker 1: return of Nolan Smith just the presence alone, giving additional
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Speaker 1: pressure from the edge. He had a couple of tackles,
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Speaker 1: he had a quarterback sack. They look they used them
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Speaker 1: on a couple of loops in the game to get
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Speaker 1: additional pressure on Jordan Love, you know. And here's another thing.
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Speaker 1: A fresh body had been out for a while with
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Speaker 1: an injury comes back as an immediate impact in the game.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of times you don't have to have
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Speaker 1: an impact every dawn, just significant downs. And I thought
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Speaker 1: he did that in that game against the Packers.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, John Ritchie.
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Speaker 2: I was on with John Ritchie and Joe Decamer earlier
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Speaker 2: today and Richie made the observation he said, every time
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Speaker 2: I see as Nolan Smith, his body.
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Speaker 3: Is parallel to the ground. He's like a missile. He's
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Speaker 3: like a projectile.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty good description because that is how he plays,
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Speaker 3: and he did. He was around a lot. He was
16:16
Speaker 3: very active.
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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, Now, I mean, the Eagles
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Speaker 2: have a lot of healthy bodies on the TV's line,
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Speaker 2: and they have a tremendous amount of depth and guys
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Speaker 2: who can come in and get pressure on the quarterback.
16:29
Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes sometimes I don't want to say
16:32
Speaker 2: sacks sex are overrated. I don't want to say that,
16:36
Speaker 2: but the raw sack number can sometimes be a little misleading.
16:40
Speaker 2: You get a couple of sacks, okay, But what's more
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Speaker 2: important is that, in addition to that, that you have
16:46
Speaker 2: constant pressure, that you.
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Speaker 3: You're always bothering the quarterback.
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Speaker 2: You're moving them off the spot, you're hurrying him, you're
16:53
Speaker 2: not allowing him to see the whole field. You're making
16:55
Speaker 2: them get rid of the bulk a little quicker than
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Speaker 2: he wants to. And that's what the Eagle did to
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Speaker 2: Jordan Love on my night. I mean, he it looked
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Speaker 2: to me dark. I don't think he was ever comfortable
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Speaker 2: in the pocket. I mean it looked like right from
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Speaker 2: the first looked like right from the first series that
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Speaker 2: he felt hurried, he felt rushed. And when you sometimes
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Speaker 2: when you saw the whole field, it went back and
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Speaker 2: you looked at the at the whole, at the all
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Speaker 2: what they call.
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Speaker 3: The all twenty two.
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Speaker 2: I mean he had some receivers open, I mean, he
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Speaker 2: had some opportunities, but he just didn't have the time
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Speaker 2: to either find them, see them, or get them the
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Speaker 2: ball U And that was just because the pressure. The
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Speaker 2: pressure was there on every snap. And then he started
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Speaker 2: thinking about it and it sped up his whole game
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Speaker 2: and sped up his decision making, and ultimately he was
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Speaker 2: never in the kind of groove that we have seen
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Speaker 2: Jordan Love when he gets when he's comfortable and he
17:44
Speaker 2: starts getting in a real rhythm in the passing game. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's very good, but the Eagles never let him get
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Speaker 2: there on Monday Night, and that was really in the end.
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Speaker 3: What's the difference.
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Speaker 1: You can't put a price on what Nikobe Deane means
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Speaker 1: to the middle of his defense right eckles a quarterback sect,
18:02
Speaker 1: but his pursuit to the ball, his ability to blow
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Speaker 1: up plays in the middle at the line of scrimmage.
18:08
Speaker 1: You know, he's not the biggest inside backer in there,
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Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what, I don't know of many
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Speaker 1: any tougher than he is. You know what a difference
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Speaker 1: he makes in terms of taking away the middle, because
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Speaker 1: a lot of teams were gouging the Eagles early on
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Speaker 1: with middle runs and you know he's taken away then.
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Speaker 1: I mean sometimes he's taken on two blockers at one
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Speaker 1: time in stonewall and which disrupted disrupts the opponent's running play.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he does, and getting him back has has really helped.
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Speaker 2: It has really really helped. He is he's a really
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Speaker 2: good he's a really good tackler, really good open field tackler,
18:45
Speaker 2: extremely quick, uh And I mean part of we were
18:50
Speaker 2: just talking a minute ago about how the Eagles run
18:52
Speaker 2: defense has improved a lot lately. I mean from the
18:56
Speaker 2: ortage they were given up earlier in the season to
18:59
Speaker 2: what they're giving up. And one of the big differences
19:02
Speaker 2: is having the Kobe Dean back on the field. He
19:04
Speaker 2: really makes that run defense better. And one of the
19:06
Speaker 2: things that was interesting about Monday's game was how often
19:10
Speaker 2: Vic used him as a blitzer yep, and how effectively.
19:13
Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of times that yeah,
19:15
Speaker 2: you're getting that pressure off the edge, which was good
19:17
Speaker 2: to see, but a lot of times there's a little
19:19
Speaker 2: bit of a Sometimes you see a delayed blitz or
19:21
Speaker 2: just your basic a gap blitz where he would send
19:24
Speaker 2: the Kobe Dean up the middle and get real pressure
19:26
Speaker 2: on the quarterback. And you know, we all always talk that,
19:29
Speaker 2: you know, Vic doesn't want to blitz, he doesn't want
19:31
Speaker 2: to take a lot of chances, which is true. But
19:34
Speaker 2: when he picks his sponsor, when he sees an opportunity
19:37
Speaker 2: to get extra pressure on the quarterback, he'll do it.
19:40
Speaker 3: And Dean going back to.
19:42
Speaker 2: His days at Georgia, not that he was a full time,
19:45
Speaker 2: all out LT kind of pass.
19:46
Speaker 3: Rusher, because he's not. That's not his game.
19:48
Speaker 2: But when you use him as a blitzer selectively, he
19:51
Speaker 2: can be very effective and he was effective again on
19:53
Speaker 2: Monday night.
19:54
Speaker 1: Can you explain to me what we saw in terms
19:58
Speaker 1: of an offensive this play on Monday night. Now, let's
20:01
Speaker 1: give credit where credit is due. As you mentioned off
20:04
Speaker 1: the top of This Bird's Weekly podcast, Green Bay has
20:07
Speaker 1: a very good defense, the very young defense. As a
20:09
Speaker 1: matter of fact, they have the youngest defense and the
20:13
Speaker 1: youngest team. Correction, not the youngest defense, but the youngest
20:16
Speaker 1: team in the National Football League. A lot of youth
20:18
Speaker 1: on their defense, just like the Eagles. Due but the
20:22
Speaker 1: Eagles coming out of that bye week well rested with
20:25
Speaker 1: a veteran offense that can put up points in a
20:28
Speaker 1: blink of an eye. They could hardly get anything going
20:31
Speaker 1: against this Packers defense. And it's some of the things
20:34
Speaker 1: that we we've talked about all season long, the mental mistakes,
20:40
Speaker 1: the miss blocks, the holes not being there for Saquon
20:44
Speaker 1: and the running back crew, Jalen missing open receivers. It's
20:50
Speaker 1: like the offense has reversed instead of progressed in some ways.
20:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's we were all asking that question after the
21:03
Speaker 2: last Giants game. Yeah, and when they ran for two
21:06
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy yards and offensively they were really clicking.
21:09
Speaker 2: Okay after they buy when they come back. Is this
21:12
Speaker 2: the offense we're going to see moving forward? And you know,
21:16
Speaker 2: to me, this was going to be a really big
21:18
Speaker 2: test because the Green Bay defense is very good. I
21:21
Speaker 2: mean they're fifth overall, they're fifth against the run, there's
21:27
Speaker 2: sixth on third down. They were eighth or ninth against
21:31
Speaker 2: the pass. I mean, there's no if you look at
21:33
Speaker 2: that defense up and down and you try and say, okay,
21:36
Speaker 2: there's a weakness here, there's a weakness there, don't really
21:40
Speaker 2: have one. They are young, they are fast, and they
21:43
Speaker 2: are physical and they can really cover on the back end.
21:47
Speaker 2: So what Jalen Hurts said in his press conference last
21:52
Speaker 2: week going into the game, going into the game, after
21:55
Speaker 2: having studied the tape on them, he said, on numerous occasions,
22:00
Speaker 2: this is a very good defense and they give you nothing,
22:03
Speaker 2: and they're going to be a real challenge. And that
22:06
Speaker 2: wasn't just lip service. I mean what he said, that
22:09
Speaker 2: was what he saw, and that was what he faced
22:11
Speaker 2: on Monday night. They were a real challenge and the
22:14
Speaker 2: Eagles up front didn't do a particularly good job, and.
22:20
Speaker 3: Herts was having trouble finding receivers a.
22:23
Speaker 2: Lot, and there didn't seem to be once again, they
22:27
Speaker 2: were kind of back to what they were earlier in
22:29
Speaker 2: the season, which was having an offense that it would
22:30
Speaker 2: hit a play here and hit a play there, but
22:33
Speaker 2: didn't establish any kind of real flow or continuity.
22:36
Speaker 3: And some of that was.
22:37
Speaker 2: On them, but also some of it you got to
22:39
Speaker 2: give some credit to the Grand Bay defense, because I
22:41
Speaker 2: do think they're that good.
22:42
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Speaker 1: You know, we were wondering after the Giants game, is
23:45
Speaker 1: the run game finally back? If they put up two
23:47
Speaker 1: seventy six on the Giants, And I guess as we
23:50
Speaker 1: sit here for this podcast, we can say no, it's
23:54
Speaker 1: not back. I mean, they ran up and down the
23:57
Speaker 1: field on a very much inferior opponent in the GIS,
24:00
Speaker 1: but against better competition they cannot impose their will. Now, overall,
24:04
Speaker 1: they ran for one hundred and eleven yards, but Saqua
24:06
Speaker 1: twenty two carries in only sixty yards rushing. His best
24:11
Speaker 1: player of the night was the forty one yard pass reception.
24:14
Speaker 1: We put this spin move together and I'm at a
24:16
Speaker 1: point now, Ray when you think about some of the
24:18
Speaker 1: defenses they're about to face. Detroit's defense is no slouch.
24:22
Speaker 1: Chicago's defense has played well, you know, in Buffalo's defense
24:27
Speaker 1: is not a bad defense as well. I'm inclined to
24:29
Speaker 1: get the saquad get Saquona ball in open space on
24:32
Speaker 1: the swing pass, screen pass, middle screen, wheel route as
24:36
Speaker 1: much as I am in terms of giving him the
24:38
Speaker 1: ball in the backfield.
24:39
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I think so too. The little.
24:46
Speaker 2: Flat pass, the forty one yard or was maybe the
24:50
Speaker 2: biggest play in the game, you know, I mean, that's
24:52
Speaker 2: you needed something like that, And I think the Eagles
24:56
Speaker 2: came to the conclusion they weren't on to get it
24:58
Speaker 2: in the running game because it just in there. So
25:01
Speaker 2: they created it in the passing game, and you know,
25:04
Speaker 2: that forty one yarder gets them down into a position
25:07
Speaker 2: where they on the next play they hit the bomb
25:08
Speaker 2: the smith and they finally get it in.
25:10
Speaker 3: The end zone.
25:11
Speaker 2: But you know, one of the interesting things about sake
25:14
Speaker 2: this season for Barkley compared to last season is it's
25:19
Speaker 2: kind of the reverse in the sense that if you
25:23
Speaker 2: looked at Barkley last year, I mean, we all know
25:26
Speaker 2: two thousand yards and all the things he accomplished. One
25:29
Speaker 2: of the there was a pattern that was very consistent
25:31
Speaker 2: from week to week was he was his yardage. He
25:36
Speaker 2: got more yardage as the game went along. You know,
25:39
Speaker 2: I meant, his best quarters in terms of running the
25:42
Speaker 2: ball were it got he started out one, it got
25:46
Speaker 2: better into then second half, third.
25:48
Speaker 3: Quarter was good, and then the fourth quarter was his best.
25:51
Speaker 2: You know, his his running the running game got better
25:54
Speaker 2: as the game went along, and this year it's been
25:57
Speaker 2: the opposite, you know, and this year his quarter running
26:01
Speaker 2: the ball is the first quarter, and that was true
26:02
Speaker 2: in this game too. I think he had like six
26:05
Speaker 2: carries for twenty eight yards in the first quarter, which
26:08
Speaker 2: isn't great, it's pretty good, but then from that point
26:11
Speaker 2: on he barely averaged two yards to carry. So it's
26:14
Speaker 2: kind of the reverse of what we saw last year.
26:17
Speaker 2: And obviously on a week to week basis nowhere near
26:20
Speaker 2: as productive as it was a year ago. And you
26:24
Speaker 2: know some of that, I mean the offense. The offense
26:27
Speaker 2: is it's sputtering, you know. I mean the Giants game
26:32
Speaker 2: was that was the exception. What we saw on Monday
26:35
Speaker 2: night has been the rule. And you know that's the
26:38
Speaker 2: one area moving forward now that worries you a little bit,
26:42
Speaker 2: is that the offense from week to week. It can
26:44
Speaker 2: be really good at times, but there are other times
26:47
Speaker 2: when again, this was a game where we have what
26:50
Speaker 2: three to three an ounce, they had a couple of
26:53
Speaker 2: four and outs, and you're just they don't have that
26:57
Speaker 2: kind of four quarter annuity of offensive dominance that we
27:02
Speaker 2: saw routinely last year. And that's one of the things
27:05
Speaker 2: that if they really are going to take this thing
27:08
Speaker 2: all the way and get back to the championship game,
27:10
Speaker 2: they're going to have to be.
27:11
Speaker 3: Better at that.
27:12
Speaker 2: And one of the things that I think they have
27:13
Speaker 2: to do, Derek, is they it bothers. They commit too
27:17
Speaker 2: many penalties.
27:18
Speaker 3: They just do.
27:19
Speaker 2: I mean, they're in terms of penalty yardage per game,
27:23
Speaker 2: the Eagles are one of the worst in the league.
27:25
Speaker 2: I mean, there are only five teams in the league
27:27
Speaker 2: that give up more yards per game via a penalty,
27:31
Speaker 2: and a lot of that, you know, it takes away
27:34
Speaker 2: some big positive games. I mean, one of Barkley's best
27:36
Speaker 2: runs was wiped out by a Toth, by a Brett
27:39
Speaker 2: Poth Brett Toth penalty.
27:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, and a lot.
27:43
Speaker 2: Of times and look how many times and I wrote
27:46
Speaker 2: this down, I mean third and eleven, third and twelve,
27:49
Speaker 2: third and fourteen, third and fifteen.
27:51
Speaker 3: You know, you're not. Nobody's going to.
27:52
Speaker 2: Convert a whole lot of those situations, but because of
27:56
Speaker 2: some poor execution at times, but also just some dumb
27:59
Speaker 2: penal put him in those situations. That really really does
28:03
Speaker 2: sort of handcuff the offense.
28:05
Speaker 1: I think it's clearcut that Devanta Smith is the number
28:07
Speaker 1: one receiver on this team right now. I mean he
28:10
Speaker 1: had four catches for what sixty sixty nine yards and
28:13
Speaker 1: a touchdown, beautiful thirty six yard snag for a score.
28:19
Speaker 1: I just every week, Ray, I'm just so impressed with
28:22
Speaker 1: his route running ability, his route running in terms of
28:25
Speaker 1: deceiving a defensive back. You don't see him drop pass
28:31
Speaker 1: as for a guy as rail thin as he is,
28:33
Speaker 1: he doesn't drop passes. He goes up and wins the
28:36
Speaker 1: majority of his contested passes. He is everything you want
28:40
Speaker 1: in terms of that sure handed, go to guy who's
28:43
Speaker 1: not afraid to take the big hit and will constantly
28:46
Speaker 1: make the big play for you.
28:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does week after week after week. You're right,
28:52
Speaker 2: he is so good at the top of the route.
28:57
Speaker 2: You know when he gets up to the route, when
28:59
Speaker 2: he when he makes that break. Whether he's coming whether
29:02
Speaker 2: he's taking it across the middle, or whether he's coming
29:04
Speaker 2: back to the quarterback at the point at the top
29:06
Speaker 2: of the route, he always gets separation and if the
29:10
Speaker 2: ball is delivered on time, I mean, he will always
29:13
Speaker 2: make the catch. And the touchdown catch, of course, is
29:17
Speaker 2: the big one. That's what everybody remembers, and it was
29:19
Speaker 2: was a great catch. You know, he uses his body
29:22
Speaker 2: so well. I mean the way he gets up and
29:24
Speaker 2: the way he turns his body and gets in between
29:26
Speaker 2: the defender and the ball. He does that all the time.
29:29
Speaker 2: He does that as good as anybody, I think. But
29:33
Speaker 2: the other stuff, the out routes and things like that,
29:35
Speaker 2: the possession catches, I mean, he gets you those week
29:38
Speaker 2: after week after week. And you know, the fifteen sixteen
29:43
Speaker 2: yard catch that he made on third and twelve late
29:45
Speaker 2: in the game allowed you to extend that possession and was.
29:48
Speaker 3: A very big play in the game.
29:50
Speaker 2: And there were a couple of other times when he
29:52
Speaker 2: ran a great route, a couple of outs where he
29:56
Speaker 2: had the separation and hurts just under throw the ball,
29:59
Speaker 2: but he was there he could have made the catch.
30:01
Speaker 2: So yeah, on a night when yards and points were
30:05
Speaker 2: hard to come by and you had to fight for
30:08
Speaker 2: every every bloody inch you know, And that's what this
30:11
Speaker 2: game was. I mean, time after time when you needed
30:14
Speaker 2: a big play, he came.
30:15
Speaker 3: Up with it.
30:15
Speaker 1: You know. Now for the other guy who wants to
30:17
Speaker 1: be more involved in the offense, AJ Brown and Ray,
30:20
Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel his frustration. I mean, two catches
30:23
Speaker 1: thirteen yards now. To his credit, after the game, he
30:25
Speaker 1: stood at his locker, answered all the questions and the
30:28
Speaker 1: one thing he said it was Green Bay did a
30:30
Speaker 1: good job of taking me out of the game. But
30:32
Speaker 1: for the life of me, ring for receiver that de Sighes,
30:35
Speaker 1: who's bigger than most dbs, he will face the fact
30:38
Speaker 1: that they don't use him more in the slant routes.
30:40
Speaker 1: I mean, that's his bread and butterplay, the fact that
30:42
Speaker 1: they don't use him more in the slant routes. Because
30:44
Speaker 1: even if a d becomes the first of all, he
30:47
Speaker 1: commands the utmost respect from DB's because they're playing seven
30:50
Speaker 1: to ten yards off of him. More times than not,
30:52
Speaker 1: he sticks his foot in the ground. He's got the
30:54
Speaker 1: battle one right there, because if dB comes up, he's
30:58
Speaker 1: either gonna make the catch or it's going to be
31:00
Speaker 1: past interference. He can win that battle all day, every game,
31:03
Speaker 1: but they they've got no I don't know what Kevin
31:06
Speaker 1: Patula is thinking in terms of why when other elements
31:09
Speaker 1: of your game are stagnant, why don't you go to
31:11
Speaker 1: your short play.
31:12
Speaker 3: That's a short money play. Then a lot of teams
31:14
Speaker 3: don't convert in the National Football League. It does seem
31:17
Speaker 3: that way.
31:18
Speaker 2: Uh. And yeah, his his frustration is palpable and and
31:24
Speaker 2: kind of understandable because there's no real reason why a
31:28
Speaker 2: guy with his talent should have finished a game with
31:31
Speaker 2: two catches for seven yards. I mean, that's something that
31:35
Speaker 2: they have to address, and not for the reasons of
31:38
Speaker 2: keeping him happy and not for the reasons of just
31:41
Speaker 2: getting him off social media and and any.
31:45
Speaker 3: Of that kind of stuff. It does make sense is
31:47
Speaker 3: to get him the ball more.
31:49
Speaker 2: Uh. And you know, you see the way teams cover him,
31:52
Speaker 2: and you just said that the cushion they give him,
31:54
Speaker 2: I understand that if you try to press this guy,
31:58
Speaker 2: if you try to jam him and he's too big
32:00
Speaker 2: and strong, yes, I mean so teams will just try
32:03
Speaker 2: to keep him in front of you. So to me,
32:05
Speaker 2: that six seven yard area it's there, you know, and
32:10
Speaker 2: take advantage of it, you know, get him the hitch route,
32:13
Speaker 2: get him the ball, and let him get yards after the.
32:15
Speaker 3: Catch, which we know he can do.
32:18
Speaker 2: I really kind of thought when the Eagles made this
32:25
Speaker 2: sort of philosophical change about putting the quarterback more under center,
32:28
Speaker 2: which I think I do think has helped.
32:31
Speaker 3: One of the things that does is.
32:32
Speaker 2: It creates the opportunity for more play action passes, and
32:35
Speaker 2: a play action pass, which is will create a timing
32:39
Speaker 2: element in the offense is made to throw those kinds. Yeah,
32:44
Speaker 2: it's made to hit big plays down the field, but
32:46
Speaker 2: it also will get you the slant coming across the middle,
32:50
Speaker 2: and if you execute the fake properly, it'll get the
32:54
Speaker 2: linebackers out of play and open that middle of the
32:56
Speaker 2: field up. And so I kind of thought, when they
32:59
Speaker 2: begin and we're writing more of the quarterback under center
33:03
Speaker 2: play action stuff into the offense, that that was one
33:07
Speaker 2: really good way to get the ball to aj and
33:10
Speaker 2: to give him the kinds of opportunities to be the
33:13
Speaker 2: playmaker that he was earlier in his career. Here, I
33:17
Speaker 2: still think that's there. I still think they can do that, yes,
33:20
Speaker 2: but they just haven't gone to it yet. Now, maybe
33:24
Speaker 2: some of It just had to do with what Hurts
33:26
Speaker 2: was talking about was the fact that the Green Bay
33:28
Speaker 2: defense is really good, and I do think that they
33:31
Speaker 2: made it difficult to get the ball to AJ. But
33:33
Speaker 2: moving forward, you know, we're you know, we're getting into
33:37
Speaker 2: that stretch run now, and you're going to have to
33:40
Speaker 2: start seeing the full dimension of your offense and the
33:44
Speaker 2: things that you Okay, there are certain things we establish,
33:46
Speaker 2: there's certain things we can do, and there's certain things
33:48
Speaker 2: that seem to be in place that's good, but there
33:51
Speaker 2: are some other things that we need to develop and
33:53
Speaker 2: get better at, and one of them is getting the
33:55
Speaker 2: ball to number eleven.
33:56
Speaker 1: Can can you explain to me what in the world
33:59
Speaker 1: was Nick Sirianni thinking on that late drive. All you
34:03
Speaker 1: have to do is run the ball. Run the ball,
34:05
Speaker 1: even if you don't get the first down, run the ball,
34:07
Speaker 1: keep the clock moving. He throws two passes incomplete stops
34:10
Speaker 1: the clock, and then he goes deep to AJ and
34:15
Speaker 1: it incomplete stops the clock. And was thinking, if you
34:19
Speaker 1: run the football, even if you don't get the first down,
34:22
Speaker 1: green and pushed punted down the field, green Bay has
34:26
Speaker 1: less than what ten twelve seconds to try to do
34:28
Speaker 1: anything but Lauren beer Hall, you played right into their
34:32
Speaker 1: hands and gave him an opportunity, moved the ball in field.
34:34
Speaker 1: Of course, they you know mcmahonus schanks a sixty four
34:37
Speaker 1: yard field goal try. But why would you why would
34:40
Speaker 1: you put your team in that situation, especially in a
34:42
Speaker 1: three point game?
34:43
Speaker 3: Now he's set in his press.
34:44
Speaker 1: Conference he was thinking in terms of getting a little
34:47
Speaker 1: bit closer to get get three points and force Green
34:50
Speaker 1: Bay to score a touchdown. But okay, but it worked
34:53
Speaker 1: in your favor, your genius. And I don't know if
34:55
Speaker 1: the analytics call for for what you did for those
34:58
Speaker 1: series of downs, but man, that could have blown up
35:01
Speaker 1: in your face big time.
35:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the same thing.
35:04
Speaker 2: You know, everybody focused on the the go route to
35:08
Speaker 2: AJ You know that that that last play, everybody kind
35:11
Speaker 2: of focused on that, And what in the world was
35:13
Speaker 2: he thinking?
35:14
Speaker 3: Yes, of course we were all thinking that.
35:17
Speaker 2: But before that, on the previous possession, You're right, I mean,
35:21
Speaker 2: he throws the ball, throws two incomplete passes, it stops
35:24
Speaker 2: the clock. There after you've had Barkley run, Barkley run,
35:28
Speaker 2: Barkley run, Barkley runs for a first down. You had
35:31
Speaker 2: like a third and two and Barkley gets you four
35:35
Speaker 2: and keeps the clock running.
35:37
Speaker 3: And at that point after well, this game is sold
35:38
Speaker 3: it away.
35:39
Speaker 2: Now you know the Eagles that they got that, they
35:41
Speaker 2: got the clock moving, they got the first down, and
35:44
Speaker 2: just run it out, make Green Bay use up all
35:46
Speaker 2: their timeouts, and and you you just take you just
35:49
Speaker 2: take this thing and put it, tuck itut in your
35:51
Speaker 2: pocket and go home. And then all of a sudden,
35:55
Speaker 2: incomplete pass, incomplete pass, and then he punt the ball away.
35:58
Speaker 3: What was that? You know?
36:00
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the long pass, the fourth down, decision
36:04
Speaker 2: to go for it and fourth down and he throw
36:05
Speaker 2: that low percentage ball down the field. I mean that
36:08
Speaker 2: was I still don't I mean, I've heard next explanation
36:12
Speaker 2: for it still makes no sense to me.
36:14
Speaker 3: It really doesn't.
36:16
Speaker 2: But nobody was talking about the previous possession where you
36:20
Speaker 2: got the clock running, you're running the ball, you just
36:22
Speaker 2: run for a first down, and now you're going to
36:24
Speaker 2: throw two passes and incomplete stop the clock.
36:27
Speaker 3: The clock management there in the play calling there is
36:31
Speaker 3: I can't.
36:32
Speaker 2: I can't explain it.
36:34
Speaker 3: It was.
36:36
Speaker 2: I mean it was look give him credit, like, give
36:39
Speaker 2: him credit for winning the game. Okay, it's it's hard
36:42
Speaker 2: to you know. You look Derek, I mean you look
36:46
Speaker 2: at his numbers. I mean the number of games that
36:50
Speaker 2: he's won, I mean his winning percentage. You know the
36:53
Speaker 2: fact that this year, if you look at.
36:56
Speaker 3: This year, they they have gone into Arrowhead and beaten
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs.
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Speaker 2: They went down to Tampa, which is not an easy
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Speaker 2: place to play, and they beat Bucks. Here, you go
37:04
Speaker 2: to Lambeau and you beat a good packer team. I mean,
37:08
Speaker 2: those are three tough places to play and they went
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37:14
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37:16
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Speaker 3: And I give them, I give them all the credit
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Speaker 2: But but the situations we're talking about the what they
37:29
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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes he still makes decisions that just are
39:04
Speaker 2: baffling to me. And that decision on the fourth down
39:07
Speaker 2: to go for it and not punt and make them
39:09
Speaker 2: play the long field, but to throw it pass and
39:11
Speaker 2: give them the ball at the thirty six yard line,
39:14
Speaker 2: to me, it made no sense.
39:16
Speaker 1: Now I want to let you in on a little secret.
39:18
Speaker 1: Now I want to hear your response to this. Okay,
39:21
Speaker 1: So after the game, DeVante Smith was asked about that play.
39:24
Speaker 1: He said, number one and number eleven call that play
39:27
Speaker 1: and what they want they get and we just roll
39:29
Speaker 1: with it. And then I dug a little bit deeper
39:31
Speaker 1: and found out that particular play was supposed to be
39:34
Speaker 1: a slant route which was wide open, but Jalen and
39:39
Speaker 1: aj supposedly change the play. And if you remember, after
39:44
Speaker 1: that play, they get a Nico shot of Sirianni on
39:47
Speaker 1: the sideline screaming.
39:49
Speaker 3: Why why why, And it goes back.
39:53
Speaker 1: To Jalen being indecisive at times and making I don't
39:58
Speaker 1: want to say more wrong decisions then right, because you
40:01
Speaker 1: know there are times when he makes the perfect decision,
40:03
Speaker 1: whether he has the run of football or hits the
40:05
Speaker 1: right right, right, receiver is numbers are not going to
40:09
Speaker 1: be gaudy numbers, but they're effective numbers in a lot
40:11
Speaker 1: of ways. But in that particular instance, if a play
40:15
Speaker 1: was called and those two changes in the huddle, we
40:18
Speaker 1: might have a problem down.
40:19
Speaker 2: The road, right, I agree, I agree. If that's how
40:26
Speaker 2: it really went down. Uh, And it's like a spur
40:29
Speaker 2: in the moment in the huddle adjustment that's made.
40:32
Speaker 3: It's not good. You know it's not good.
40:35
Speaker 2: But I mean, but to dial it back even more,
40:40
Speaker 2: just the decision to go for it on down is
40:44
Speaker 2: to me nutty. I mean, just let's let's what happens
40:48
Speaker 2: in the huddle and the adjustment that that's another discussion,
40:51
Speaker 2: but just the basic point of that situation.
40:54
Speaker 3: Time on the clock, You got the ball, for it down.
40:58
Speaker 2: Your defense has been playing their fannies off this whole game.
41:02
Speaker 3: Good, let's punt.
41:04
Speaker 2: It down there, let's pooch it down there, get it
41:06
Speaker 2: inside the fifteen, get it around the ten or whatever,
41:09
Speaker 2: and make them with no timeouts, just try to drive
41:12
Speaker 2: the length of the field.
41:13
Speaker 3: It's that's the that's.
41:16
Speaker 2: The easy part of it. But once you make a decision, okay,
41:20
Speaker 2: then we're going to go for it. And now you're
41:21
Speaker 2: in a discussion of Okay, we could run this or
41:23
Speaker 2: we could run this. You shouldn't be running anything. You
41:26
Speaker 2: just do the smart thing, do the.
41:28
Speaker 3: Easy, simple thing, do the percentage thing, you know.
41:32
Speaker 2: I mean, somebody was saying, was this a decision an
41:34
Speaker 2: analytics driven decision?
41:36
Speaker 3: Is analytics? No analytics? I don't.
41:40
Speaker 2: I don't agree with the whole lot of analytics, but
41:41
Speaker 2: even analytics doesn't come up with something that's stupid. And
41:44
Speaker 2: that's in that situation. The just you know, I hate
41:48
Speaker 2: to sound like mister old school football. I hate to
41:51
Speaker 2: sound like, you know, Chuck Knox or Marty Schottenheim or something,
41:54
Speaker 2: but in that situation, just punt the ball. On a
41:56
Speaker 2: night when your defense is totally dominating the game, just
42:00
Speaker 2: hump the ball and make them play the long field.
42:02
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, it might seem like that's out
42:05
Speaker 2: of an old school textbook, but sometimes the old school
42:08
Speaker 2: textbook is what wins games for you.
42:10
Speaker 1: Well, here we sit ray perplexed at the play calling
42:13
Speaker 1: and decision making in this game, and yet we're just
42:16
Speaker 1: as perplexed and how this team has arrived at a
42:19
Speaker 1: seven or two record at this point in leading the
42:22
Speaker 1: NFC as the number one seed as we sit here
42:24
Speaker 1: right now.
42:25
Speaker 3: But up next is.
42:27
Speaker 1: Another formidable opponent in the Detroit Lions. And I'm to
42:30
Speaker 1: tell you something, they ain't scored ten points of winning
42:32
Speaker 1: that game against Detroit. I don't care if it is
42:34
Speaker 1: a Lincoln Financial Field, but until that game is played
42:38
Speaker 1: for Ray Dandrum Derek Gun, we will be brought right
42:41
Speaker 1: back here after the Eagles take on the high power
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions the Lincoln Financial Field. So until then, so long, everybody,