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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, this is w W E and c W alumni
- 0:02Speaker 1: look blue meaning and you're listening to pc W.
- 0:07Speaker 2: The question is, oh you.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Let me talk to her.
- 0:18Speaker 4: I will give you a show like you have never
- 0:20Speaker 4: recovered been before a life because I can't. What do
- 0:25Speaker 4: you guys want to talk about?
- 0:34Speaker 3: Me and the color rip in the world with a black.
- 0:42Speaker 2: And white either of world? Yeah?
- 0:50Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:07Speaker 2: What's what I said?
- 1:12Speaker 5: Why are.
- 1:15Speaker 6: You?
- 1:23Speaker 7: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls turnlevall ages. Welcome
- 1:33Speaker 7: back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I
- 1:37Speaker 7: am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dried Chicken,
- 1:40Speaker 7: and this this is episode where have the Where have
- 1:48Speaker 7: we been? What happened? What I'll tell you? I'll tell
- 1:54Speaker 7: you what happened. There was an audio issue with spreaker
- 1:58Speaker 7: from where we record from. Uh it was corrupted. Uh
- 2:03Speaker 7: we we actually had a fucking good show and you
- 2:07Speaker 7: missed out. You missed out on the Crown Jewel Perth
- 2:12Speaker 7: post show.
- 2:13Speaker 3: But you know what.
- 2:14Speaker 7: Uh, let's let's let me just let me little chat
- 2:16Speaker 7: about it a little bit here. Let me let me
- 2:18Speaker 7: let me bring him in, let me bring my co
- 2:20Speaker 7: host hair. Oh so.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Hey, hey, made have been taken. It's just me, okay, dang,
- 2:34Speaker 3: it's just just me.
- 2:36Speaker 2: It's dang, just just me, okay, dang, this damn lot
- 2:41Speaker 2: of all, not.
- 2:42Speaker 3: For lots of damn luck I did. Hey, it's on
- 2:46Speaker 3: me Nowshi.
- 2:49Speaker 5: I wanna get them all.
- 2:51Speaker 3: I wanna get them all.
- 2:56Speaker 5: Oh you?
- 2:58Speaker 7: Oh you welcome back? Who's hey doing?
- 3:04Speaker 3: Dry if?
- 3:06Speaker 7: Yo?
- 3:06Speaker 5: What to do?
- 3:06Speaker 4: PCW crew made of? And Andreuso's back on your podcast.
- 3:12Speaker 7: Man, you sound tired.
- 3:15Speaker 3: Because I am.
- 3:16Speaker 7: Were you upating all night?
- 3:20Speaker 3: Nope, just had to work today. I'm tired as fuck.
- 3:26Speaker 7: Tired as fuck. But he is here for the podcast,
- 3:29Speaker 7: here for the episode. And guess who is back, Doyle.
- 4:07Speaker 5: Oh it see it's me. It's the d o il
- 4:10Speaker 5: e And uh yeah, don't fret about episode ninety nine,
- 4:15Speaker 5: Take one.
- 4:15Speaker 6: I will tell you our best listener heard my cat Kleva,
- 4:19Speaker 6: who was always, always, always in the room when I
- 4:21Speaker 6: do these things.
- 4:22Speaker 5: Uh. The only problem is she only heard my end
- 4:24Speaker 5: of these things. So but at least somebody heard it.
- 4:28Speaker 5: I can rest the shirt of that.
- 4:30Speaker 7: We've only had this happen one time, and that was
- 4:34Speaker 7: episode one, So I'd say that's a pretty good run.
- 4:37Speaker 7: Guys like you know, ninety nine episodes until it fucking
- 4:40Speaker 7: happened again.
- 4:43Speaker 3: Yep, so let's hold quarterback.
- 4:47Speaker 5: What was that?
- 4:47Speaker 3: Quarterbacks whish they could throw that many passes without an interception?
- 4:51Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, there you go. I mean, I try to
- 4:54Speaker 7: stay positive because I'm thinking of.
- 4:56Speaker 6: What you must be referring to the most accurate quarterback
- 5:00Speaker 6: in NFL history through eight games, Drake may who of
- 5:05Speaker 6: course for your.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Brake.
- 5:12Speaker 5: I love the Drake.
- 5:15Speaker 6: Yeah, he has the he if the season ended today,
- 5:17Speaker 6: he would have the highest completion percentage in NFL has.
- 5:20Speaker 3: Two well, at least one drink.
- 5:24Speaker 5: Look at.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Is winning this year?
- 5:30Speaker 7: One. I don't know about football, so I'm just like
- 5:35Speaker 7: I saw the longest yard today.
- 5:37Speaker 3: I watched the longest Which one?
- 5:39Speaker 5: Which one? Yeah? Right? Uh?
- 5:45Speaker 3: The Burt Reynolds or Adam Sandler.
- 5:50Speaker 7: Adam Sandler one?
- 5:51Speaker 5: Yeah, oh please give me Bert.
- 5:58Speaker 4: So yeah, Adam Sandler's version is okay, but it's a
- 6:01Speaker 4: little it leans a little too much on the comedy
- 6:03Speaker 4: and doesn't doesn't quite have the same seriousness that rentals one.
- 6:11Speaker 5: There's a bunch of wrestlers.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Yeah what uh.
- 6:17Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Stone calls in it, right, uh.
- 6:22Speaker 3: Yep, Stone Cold Goldberg's.
- 6:24Speaker 5: In it came. It's great colleague.
- 6:29Speaker 3: I was just about to say, I think the Great.
- 6:32Speaker 5: Jesus Christ, Oh you.
- 6:35Speaker 7: Kept Kevin Nash because I think I feel like I
- 6:40Speaker 7: feel like they gave him estrogen pills.
- 6:45Speaker 5: I well, you just watched it, you tell us.
- 6:50Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, questions because like I here's what I
- 6:57Speaker 7: have is I had it on. I saw it was
- 7:00Speaker 7: like live TV, and I was in the middle of
- 7:02Speaker 7: the movie and it was like the end, the actual
- 7:05Speaker 7: game at the end, and I'm trying to like see
- 7:08Speaker 7: who's who inside, like you know, they got the helmets
- 7:11Speaker 7: on the ship. And it's been a minute since I've
- 7:12Speaker 7: seen it. Because that is an old movie. I mean, right,
- 7:17Speaker 7: that is like earlier. I think it came out. I'm
- 7:20Speaker 7: wearing the two thousands.
- 7:22Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it depends on what you consider all.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Burt Reynolds one came out in
- 7:28Speaker 3: with the seventies.
- 7:31Speaker 7: Okay, okay, well now now I gotta look it up.
- 7:34Speaker 7: So the longest, longest year.
- 7:40Speaker 3: It was two thousand and five, because it's still wrestling.
- 7:43Speaker 5: Twenty years old. Jesus yeah.
- 7:46Speaker 7: And Burt Yeah, Burt rilesn't that concerned. He was in
- 7:48Speaker 7: the original one.
- 7:52Speaker 5: When was The Originals seventy.
- 7:54Speaker 3: Five That's what I'm trying to look up now, seventy four.
- 7:56Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, damn has even all of the me.
- 8:03Speaker 7: Yeah, what a good movie, What a good, good wholesome movie.
- 8:08Speaker 6: You can do it.
- 8:10Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody, Yeah, it's.
- 8:16Speaker 3: A good wholesome movie.
- 8:17Speaker 4: And so you realize, so you remember at the end
- 8:19Speaker 4: that these are still criminals, were not criminals, but still
- 8:22Speaker 4: guys going back to jail afterwards. Yeah, that's the one
- 8:26Speaker 4: thing that the at least the seventy four film really
- 8:30Speaker 4: a point that really it really made an effort to
- 8:32Speaker 4: convey that point, whereas that Adam Sandler wanted it was
- 8:35Speaker 4: just like, hey, we want a football game, yay roll credits,
- 8:40Speaker 4: except burs was still reminded you afterwards that like, yeah,
- 8:43Speaker 4: they won this game against the guards, but now they're
- 8:46Speaker 4: going back to jail.
- 8:47Speaker 7: Yeah, I see, like all these cash.
- 8:49Speaker 4: Just a moment of happiness and otherwise pretty miserable existence
- 8:53Speaker 4: for them.
- 8:54Speaker 7: They don't have her, but she Courtney Coxes is in
- 8:57Speaker 7: this very beginning.
- 9:00Speaker 5: I remember that.
- 9:03Speaker 7: Good, good movie, one of the better movies that had
- 9:07Speaker 7: wrestlers in it. I know Adam Sandler is a huge
- 9:09Speaker 7: wrestling fan, so of course getting his hands on. I
- 9:15Speaker 7: think he always has wrestlers in his movies. Are you
- 9:19Speaker 7: know we well happy Gilmore of course, but yeah, it's.
- 9:25Speaker 5: Just a fucking Paul light was then uh uh fuck
- 9:33Speaker 5: little nicky.
- 9:33Speaker 3: Maybe it was no, no, no, no, no, big Daddy
- 9:36Speaker 3: was a big daddy. Yeah, he played the No no no,
- 9:41Speaker 3: it was a little nicky.
- 9:42Speaker 5: It was.
- 9:44Speaker 3: Little nikky.
- 9:45Speaker 7: No water boy, it's water boy captain.
- 9:54Speaker 5: That's the thing about the movies.
- 9:56Speaker 7: They all just run together, open up a big cannibal bath.
- 9:59Speaker 7: I notice you sweat quite profusely.
- 10:03Speaker 3: About it. Is one of those movies where he's talking
- 10:05Speaker 3: with a weird voice.
- 10:07Speaker 8: Yeah, really, I'm skit where it was like it was
- 10:14Speaker 8: a sand Up family reunion and everyone had it was
- 10:18Speaker 8: like it was one of his characters.
- 10:20Speaker 4: Basically, what do you do on SNL? Yeah, yeah, I
- 10:26Speaker 4: don't have to look a skit up. That looks funny,
- 10:28Speaker 4: that sounds funny as though.
- 10:31Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think that's what it was.
- 10:35Speaker 5: Yeah, like every every every like cousin.
- 10:37Speaker 6: So it's okay, it's cousin, see if And it was
- 10:39Speaker 6: the guy acted exactly like you know, opera.
- 10:42Speaker 5: Man or whatever. And then it was like oh look
- 10:44Speaker 5: it's cousin whatever. And he acted exactly like, uh, you know,
- 10:49Speaker 5: happy Gilmore.
- 10:52Speaker 7: Man, Hey to you guys for call. We'll quickly go
- 10:57Speaker 7: over it briefly him over it. Well, you know the
- 11:03Speaker 7: Crown Jewel perth over in over in Australia. You know,
- 11:09Speaker 7: I know it's long gone in the in the review,
- 11:12Speaker 7: but I think if anybody who did miss it for
- 11:17Speaker 7: me highlight Match of the night, Johnson Universus a J I'm.
- 11:21Speaker 5: Trying to remember one match from it. Oh yes, okay, yes.
- 11:26Speaker 7: We had bron Yeah we had we had Bronson defeated
- 11:31Speaker 7: Roman Reigns in the Australian Street Fight. We have Stephanie
- 11:35Speaker 7: Oh wait, sorry, we had Uh defeated Tiffany Stratton. Uh
- 11:42Speaker 7: for the Crown Jewel Championship. That made Johnson defeated aj
- 11:47Speaker 7: styles EO sky Ria Ripley defeated the Kabuki Warriors Uh
- 11:55Speaker 7: Oscar and oh no, I don't have the button set
- 11:59Speaker 7: up kaye Uh embarrassing. And then Seth Rollins uh defeated
- 12:04Speaker 7: Cody Rhoads And that didn't last very long. I mean
- 12:09Speaker 7: since Jesus Christ. To think how much has happened since then?
- 12:14Speaker 7: Seth got injured, he injured, he finished the match. Uh,
- 12:20Speaker 7: it sucks, but he got to the top of the mountain.
- 12:23Speaker 7: I guess you could say, I mean it was sucked
- 12:25Speaker 7: if he would have lost after all that. But and
- 12:30Speaker 7: then he got removed from the vision. He got sue
- 12:35Speaker 7: no made and uh speared. He's he's he's gone. He's
- 12:41Speaker 7: off the TV now like.
- 12:44Speaker 3: He was.
- 12:44Speaker 5: Literally he vacated the title.
- 12:47Speaker 7: Yeah, and in the titles vacated. Then we we we
- 12:51Speaker 7: had a whole situation leading up to uh Saturday Night
- 12:56Speaker 7: made event. Uh you know, Battle of Royal and Bronson
- 13:01Speaker 7: and bron Breaker were both not allowed in the Battle Oil.
- 13:07Speaker 7: But you know what, I see videos, you know, a
- 13:09Speaker 7: little short videos on YouTube, and I'm not buying it.
- 13:13Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys are. They said the
- 13:15Speaker 7: reason why they didn't have them in the Battle of
- 13:17Speaker 7: Royal is because they are getting cheered too much and
- 13:21Speaker 7: they were afraid they were gonna get cheered over jay Usso.
- 13:28Speaker 3: Do you believe that, I think that's a very valid reason. Yes, yeah,
- 13:32Speaker 3: you think that.
- 13:32Speaker 7: They're slowly We're like, I mean, I bron Breaker, I am,
- 13:37Speaker 7: I'm I'm hooked right, I'm a fan now I'm a
- 13:40Speaker 7: fan of bron Breaker, and and you know who opinion
- 13:43Speaker 7: I really like to know about bron Breaker is fucking
- 13:45Speaker 7: Doyle Because we go back some old episodes, you weren't
- 13:49Speaker 7: fond of him, I mean, like nine episodes deep, Like
- 13:53Speaker 7: how is his like? I mean Dirty Dom? I didn't
- 13:56Speaker 7: we go back a long time. I was not a
- 13:57Speaker 7: fan of Dirty Dom, but now sure.
- 14:00Speaker 5: Yeah you know dom Dom. I don't want an on
- 14:04Speaker 5: my absolutely door. I think brown Breaker is much improved.
- 14:10Speaker 6: I like him more than I used to. I think
- 14:14Speaker 6: he's sometimes really funny. Uh that what was the line,
- 14:18Speaker 6: like you guys are like one hundred combined or something
- 14:20Speaker 6: like that.
- 14:21Speaker 7: That was pretty funny talking about how old they are.
- 14:24Speaker 6: He but he's I mean he's he's always gonna remind
- 14:27Speaker 6: me of every fucking asshole Drock.
- 14:29Speaker 5: I fought with it, you know, and that's not gonna change.
- 14:35Speaker 5: I think there's nothing he can do about it.
- 14:36Speaker 6: It's not really his fault. I suppose it's like it's
- 14:39Speaker 6: definitely a me issue. But uh yeah, I mean he's
- 14:44Speaker 6: wronging on me.
- 14:45Speaker 5: I'll give you that.
- 14:45Speaker 6: I like him more than I used to. Uh, he's
- 14:48Speaker 6: still not my favorite. I don't think he's never gonna
- 14:50Speaker 6: be my favorite, and you know what, that's okay.
- 14:54Speaker 7: That's okay. Yeah yeah. And Bronson, I'm not still sold
- 14:59Speaker 7: on Bronze.
- 15:01Speaker 5: Way better yeah yeah, I mean.
- 15:05Speaker 7: He's getting there. I mean, Roman Reigns is definitely, uh,
- 15:08Speaker 7: that's a big accomplishment. I mean, regardless of how it happened,
- 15:12Speaker 7: how it went at at you know, Perth, that's still
- 15:18Speaker 7: a win over Roman Reigns. And there's not many people
- 15:21Speaker 7: right now who have that this year, you know, w
- 15:25Speaker 7: over well.
- 15:26Speaker 6: I mean, I think at the end of the day,
- 15:27Speaker 6: the whole point of the vision was to get to
- 15:29Speaker 6: get the Bronze over right, So and I said, I
- 15:33Speaker 6: think we're just kind of fast forwarding that.
- 15:35Speaker 7: Yeah, fast tracking this whole thing, and like, you know,
- 15:41Speaker 7: fast tracking it even more because of Seth's injury. That's crazy.
- 15:47Speaker 4: Presumably that still depends on I mean, the fast track
- 15:51Speaker 4: would be them putting the title on bron Breaker, and
- 15:54Speaker 4: we still don't know when they're going to actually pull
- 15:56Speaker 4: the trigger on that. Yeah, I mean, between you know,
- 16:01Speaker 4: whoever comes out of Saturday Night made event with the title,
- 16:03Speaker 4: they could still hold onto it through the rest of
- 16:06Speaker 4: the year and into twenty twenty six and not drop
- 16:09Speaker 4: it to.
- 16:11Speaker 3: Before radio or rumble or something like that, so they
- 16:16Speaker 3: could be fast tracking it.
- 16:17Speaker 4: I think they're just kind of having to pivot their
- 16:20Speaker 4: plans to a certain extent because obviously Seth is no
- 16:24Speaker 4: longer the champion, so somebody's got to fill that.
- 16:28Speaker 3: That space.
- 16:29Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 16:31Speaker 6: One of the things I say a lot when I'm
- 16:34Speaker 6: praising them, which is less and less the shase. But
- 16:37Speaker 6: one of the things I think they've been doing what
- 16:39Speaker 6: they do well is you know, they make matches affect
- 16:43Speaker 6: other matches, right, you know, depending on who wins this
- 16:47Speaker 6: is going to affect too. I think it's gonna win
- 16:49Speaker 6: this or or vice versa or whatever. And but the
- 16:52Speaker 6: problem with that is when you have those pieces laid
- 16:54Speaker 6: out on the board when I'm injury, like this comes
- 16:56Speaker 6: along and just fucking knocks.
- 16:58Speaker 5: The whole board over.
- 16:59Speaker 9: And sometimes I think it's good for the creative process
- 17:02Speaker 9: for them to just be like fun, everything's out the window,
- 17:04Speaker 9: I start on, you know, And I think we were
- 17:07Speaker 9: kind of gonna get something like that anyway, because I
- 17:09Speaker 9: think we were getting this creative shake up regardless, and
- 17:13Speaker 9: this just kind of forced the issue even more.
- 17:15Speaker 5: Stuff. So I'm kind of.
- 17:17Speaker 6: Excited to see what ends up happening here. I think
- 17:19Speaker 6: there's a lot of a lot of what if, a
- 17:22Speaker 6: lot of directions it can go.
- 17:23Speaker 4: Yeah, right, there's definitely a lot more interest now, oddly enough,
- 17:28Speaker 4: with Seth not being the champion than there was before,
- 17:34Speaker 4: because at least before we were probably based on right, Yeah,
- 17:39Speaker 4: before we were probably just like all rights, that's the champion,
- 17:42Speaker 4: and we're just waiting to see, you who's gonna who's
- 17:44Speaker 4: gonna win it from them?
- 17:46Speaker 5: Like, I'm not glad Seth was injured.
- 17:48Speaker 6: I know we side upon it or whatever, but in
- 17:50Speaker 6: the end of the day for Hittive wise, it may
- 17:52Speaker 6: not be a bad thing.
- 17:54Speaker 3: No, not at all. Yeah, I definitely agree with you.
- 17:56Speaker 4: It's a this this is a shake up that, like
- 17:59Speaker 4: I said, put some interest in the world title scene
- 18:02Speaker 4: that did not exist with Seth's champion.
- 18:10Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 18:10Speaker 7: I mean sometimes, I guess history has shown that certain
- 18:18Speaker 7: injuries has catapulted other wrestlers' careers. You know, you just
- 18:23Speaker 7: have to seize the opportunities, and in a business like that,
- 18:27Speaker 7: you gotta take it. You gotta take the ball around
- 18:30Speaker 7: with it, you know. I'm I'm sure like there's discussion
- 18:34Speaker 7: in the locker room. When when a big name like
- 18:37Speaker 7: that gets taken off the board, like when stone Cold
- 18:40Speaker 7: broke his neck and was taken off the board, you know, like,
- 18:43Speaker 7: oh my god, that's a huge fucking character. There's a
- 18:46Speaker 7: huge shoes you gotta fill stone Cold, Steve Austin. But
- 18:49Speaker 7: they found a way, you know. Uh, Yeah, I'm interested.
- 18:56Speaker 7: I'm very interested in these two gentlemen's career. I I
- 19:00Speaker 7: would say, not man, it's too early to say, but
- 19:07Speaker 7: like bron Breaker winning the Royal Rumble, it's too early
- 19:12Speaker 7: to say, but damn I could see it. I could
- 19:15Speaker 7: see it so close, so close, all right. Also, won't
- 19:23Speaker 7: talk you guys want talk about anything else about Perth
- 19:25Speaker 7: before I just move on. But nobody wants a Perth it.
- 19:31Speaker 4: I mean, I think we all pretty much an agreement
- 19:34Speaker 4: that Aja Sena is a Match of the Year candidate
- 19:39Speaker 4: and we'll revisit it when we do our awards.
- 19:43Speaker 7: Yeah for sure. Uh, this is another one of these.
- 19:50Speaker 7: If you haven't, this might be your first time.
- 19:53Speaker 5: I mean, go.
- 19:54Speaker 7: You gotta go to ESPN plus to find it, which
- 19:58Speaker 7: is weird because when I was searching through ESPN Plus,
- 20:01Speaker 7: I couldn't find it directly. But if I was going
- 20:05Speaker 7: through the Disney Plus app, I could find it, So
- 20:09Speaker 7: I don't know. Well now now I get it on Netflix.
- 20:16Speaker 7: But yes, for those people out there paying for it,
- 20:19Speaker 7: I think you should go through Disney Plus to find it.
- 20:25Speaker 7: Definitely watch it. You probably find the whole match anyway
- 20:27Speaker 7: on YouTube. I mean, don't it's not don't even look
- 20:30Speaker 7: for highlights. You gotta like watch the whole match. The
- 20:33Speaker 7: way the crowd is, the way, you know, just paying
- 20:37Speaker 7: homage to other wrestlers with all these moves. And it's
- 20:39Speaker 7: not just Sena doing it. Aj Styles is also doing
- 20:43Speaker 7: it also. Within that same weekend, we discussed that aj
- 20:48Speaker 7: Styles announced next year he's going to be retiring, and
- 20:54Speaker 7: I don't I see a snowball effect had been within
- 21:00Speaker 7: the next five years of like people I could see
- 21:04Speaker 7: retiring and if I kind of like the idea of
- 21:08Speaker 7: these like retirement towards ideas, But can you do like
- 21:13Speaker 7: two wrestlers retiring the same year or is this something.
- 21:17Speaker 5: Like how many how many retirement tours? Is too many
- 21:20Speaker 5: retirement tours exactly?
- 21:22Speaker 7: That That's what I mean, Like, I'm all for it.
- 21:24Speaker 10: You know, you have two or three active ones every
- 21:27Speaker 10: year for the next four five years, I might get
- 21:31Speaker 10: a little tireson, right, Like, Yeah, on.
- 21:38Speaker 6: The other hand, you got all these guys that are
- 21:40Speaker 6: we're gonna probably be aging out sooner rather than later.
- 21:44Speaker 5: You know, does everybody deserve a tour?
- 21:48Speaker 6: Probably not, well, definitely not have a ten but maybe
- 21:52Speaker 6: looking at quite a few retirement matches in the next
- 21:56Speaker 6: five years or so.
- 21:58Speaker 5: It's weird.
- 22:00Speaker 4: You can have your people can have their final matches,
- 22:02Speaker 4: or they can say that, hey, this is my thing,
- 22:05Speaker 4: and you can have the build up to their finalees. Sure,
- 22:08Speaker 4: but everybody don't need a retirement tour. Everybody ain't seeing
- 22:12Speaker 4: a and plus if everybody gets a retirement tour, then
- 22:14Speaker 4: a retirement tour ain't special.
- 22:19Speaker 3: How how soon?
- 22:21Speaker 5: When was Rick Flair's thing?
- 22:23Speaker 6: Because I think redoing that might be fun with somebody
- 22:27Speaker 6: that deserves it, obviously, saying where like if every time
- 22:31Speaker 6: if he the next time he loses, he's gonna retire,
- 22:34Speaker 6: that that might.
- 22:35Speaker 5: Be that that that some of those matches on raw
- 22:38Speaker 5: on the way to much fun as a result of that.
- 22:43Speaker 3: Yeah, where he had he was fighting to stay just
- 22:46Speaker 3: keep going.
- 22:47Speaker 5: Yeah, he just says like retire right. Yeah.
- 22:51Speaker 4: Eric Bischoff was trying to force him out of retirement,
- 22:54Speaker 4: where Flair just kept winning matches and stuff like.
- 22:56Speaker 3: Yes, that could absolutely work for somebody.
- 22:59Speaker 6: So like, I mean, I wouldn't want them to do
- 23:01Speaker 6: that every year, but that was now what fifteen years ago.
- 23:04Speaker 5: More than that, maybe I don't think it could.
- 23:07Speaker 6: You know, I don't do it exactly the same kind
- 23:09Speaker 6: of switch it up somehow, but a storyline like that
- 23:11Speaker 6: might be a fun send off for one of these
- 23:14Speaker 6: guys I don't know who.
- 23:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to see something like that, Something like
- 23:18Speaker 4: that would work as long as you don't predict, if
- 23:22Speaker 4: you don't you know, announce it like that has to
- 23:26Speaker 4: be something that just happens with a wrestler. It can't
- 23:30Speaker 4: be something where it's like, you know, say, hypothetically speaking
- 23:34Speaker 4: Randy Orton, he says, you know, SummerSlam twenty twenty seven
- 23:37Speaker 4: is my final is gonna be my final match, And
- 23:40Speaker 4: then they try to run some storyline from Backlash to
- 23:43Speaker 4: Summer Slam.
- 23:44Speaker 3: We're gonna force you out early. We're going to force
- 23:46Speaker 3: out early.
- 23:46Speaker 4: It's like we already know when his last matches, he
- 23:48Speaker 4: ain't losing that shit. It takes all the suspense out
- 23:51Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, if you're gonna do it for something
- 23:53Speaker 4: for a guy like that, he has to be for
- 23:55Speaker 4: somebody who has not already announced their retirement, right.
- 23:58Speaker 3: They may be.
- 23:59Speaker 4: Internal memos about it that you know internally they know, hey,
- 24:02Speaker 4: this is his last date, but it can't be.
- 24:05Speaker 3: You can't let the fans know ahead of time.
- 24:09Speaker 7: Let me just run down here just some ages of
- 24:13Speaker 7: some wrestlers on the current roster that we could see
- 24:17Speaker 7: within the next five years retiring. And you know, some
- 24:21Speaker 7: deserve maybe a retirement tour, some deservetive retirement storyline. But
- 24:26Speaker 7: I'm just gonna run down some guys in their ages.
- 24:29Speaker 7: Raymond Stereo fifty years old. Some of these guys too,
- 24:32Speaker 7: are just also they may not be with the company,
- 24:36Speaker 7: but I could see them coming back and wrapping up
- 24:39Speaker 7: their career here in WW like Bobby Lashley forty nine
- 24:44Speaker 7: years old. We do have Rainy Orton at forty five,
- 24:47Speaker 7: The miz At forty five, aj Styles forty eight, Oscar
- 24:52Speaker 7: forty four, Seamus forty seven, Our Truth fifty three, Shinskan
- 25:01Speaker 7: Nakamura forty five, Kofi Kingston forty four, Edge fifty one,
- 25:09Speaker 7: Chris Jericho fifty four years old, Natalia forty three years old,
- 25:17Speaker 7: John Cena forty eight. That's what I got just listened here.
- 25:22Speaker 7: But I do know, like you know, Matt Hardy and
- 25:24Speaker 7: Jeff Hardy in their late forties, you know, and they
- 25:27Speaker 7: they're still taking bumps and the Hardy Boys contract is
- 25:30Speaker 7: coming up soon, and I could see them maybe winding
- 25:33Speaker 7: down and signing with WW to finish their career. But yeah,
- 25:38Speaker 7: I mean like within the next five years, guys, we
- 25:40Speaker 7: could so a lot of Hall of Famers, new Hall
- 25:43Speaker 7: of Famers, and a whole new class, like a whole
- 25:46Speaker 7: new class.
- 25:48Speaker 5: You know.
- 25:48Speaker 6: Yeah, part of that is why it's imperatives to level
- 25:51Speaker 6: up guys like Bron Breaker and Bron Bronston Reed.
- 25:56Speaker 1: Yeah, although I think Hanston Reed is like thirty eight
- 25:59Speaker 1: or thirty like Ronson Reid's not twenty twenty eight or
- 26:03Speaker 1: whatever like Bron How Bron Bron Breakers what twenty six
- 26:07Speaker 1: something like that.
- 26:10Speaker 7: Is thirty seven?
- 26:12Speaker 5: H Yeah, so he's he's not exactly a string checking.
- 26:16Speaker 7: Either, No, like and Bron Bron Breaker. Let's see here,
- 26:21Speaker 7: he's twenty nah, really twenty eight.
- 26:24Speaker 3: Yeah, Bron's in his twenties, he's youngest.
- 26:28Speaker 4: That's why I think that's why there's so much talk
- 26:29Speaker 4: about him being the next one because he's he's got
- 26:33Speaker 4: that youth on his side to where he can actually,
- 26:38Speaker 4: you know, if we were talking about another face of
- 26:40Speaker 4: the company or something like that, he can be that
- 26:43Speaker 4: and you know maybe eight nine years from now or
- 26:47Speaker 4: something like that, whenever Cody passes the mantle.
- 26:51Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's right because Bron does like run his
- 26:54Speaker 7: mouth about his age because he's you know, talking about
- 26:56Speaker 7: Ellie Knight wrestling him the other night. Elle Knight's forty
- 26:59Speaker 7: two years old, you know, talking about how your time
- 27:01Speaker 7: is coming gone old man like fucking brutal a yeah,
- 27:10Speaker 7: mhm mhm. New generation.
- 27:15Speaker 5: So mm hmm.
- 27:16Speaker 3: But they need to find, you know, more than just
- 27:20Speaker 3: Bron Breaker.
- 27:22Speaker 7: They need some replacements.
- 27:25Speaker 3: They need they need a roster.
- 27:26Speaker 4: And they got some of these young talent that they
- 27:30Speaker 4: are some of them that they aren't really using to
- 27:31Speaker 4: their best, aren't really building up in the way that
- 27:35Speaker 4: they should be at this moment. Still got time, they do,
- 27:39Speaker 4: but yeah, yeah, time wasted is time that you can't
- 27:44Speaker 4: get back.
- 27:46Speaker 5: Okay.
- 27:48Speaker 4: They get the guys like Carmelo Hayes, who's just spinning
- 27:52Speaker 4: wheels over and smack down.
- 27:54Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
- 27:58Speaker 3: Guys, like even.
- 28:01Speaker 4: Even in Austin theory, think about how much potential time
- 28:04Speaker 4: has been wasted with him that could have been used
- 28:08Speaker 4: in developing him into somebody.
- 28:11Speaker 5: Well, I mean, probably too little, too late.
- 28:13Speaker 6: But the dirts said that he was supposed to be uh,
- 28:17Speaker 6: he was going to be involved in the vision somehow,
- 28:23Speaker 6: So I don't know, So who knows.
- 28:25Speaker 5: I don't know if that's true or not. If it is,
- 28:27Speaker 5: maybe they did have in fact something for him and
- 28:29Speaker 5: now he's fucked. And if it's not true and I
- 28:32Speaker 5: never had anything for him and he fucked, either way
- 28:35Speaker 5: he sucked.
- 28:38Speaker 4: It could be or it could just be something that's
- 28:41Speaker 4: postponed again, just like all the other storylines.
- 28:45Speaker 3: Again, like these.
- 28:47Speaker 4: These are guys who you know, they need to invest
- 28:49Speaker 4: in and they need to build up and but it's
- 28:52Speaker 4: not like they have to do it today.
- 28:56Speaker 3: You know, they still have they still have their faces
- 28:59Speaker 3: of the company.
- 29:00Speaker 4: Now, they still have Cody and Seth and Roman and
- 29:03Speaker 4: Punk and all them who can still you know, exists
- 29:08Speaker 4: at the top of the card for at least the
- 29:11Speaker 4: next four to five years or more. So they still
- 29:16Speaker 4: have time with some of these other guys, but they
- 29:18Speaker 4: do need to start at some point building these people
- 29:21Speaker 4: up to compete with the top guys that are on
- 29:25Speaker 4: their way out so that they can take over.
- 29:27Speaker 11: Yeah, huh, all right, let's get into Uh you got
- 29:37Speaker 11: four matches that on this card Saturday mean event November.
- 29:41Speaker 7: One, this weekend day after Halloween. I'll be I'll be
- 29:49Speaker 7: throwing a nice party.
- 29:51Speaker 5: I will be.
- 29:52Speaker 7: Hosting the pay per view at the same time. I'm
- 29:56Speaker 7: trying to do two things at once and also make
- 29:59Speaker 7: sure my Porchlain stay off the next three days.
- 30:04Speaker 3: Paper views?
- 30:06Speaker 7: What's up?
- 30:08Speaker 3: So what pay per view you hosted?
- 30:09Speaker 7: Well, not paper view? Yeah, p L. I guess this
- 30:12Speaker 7: this Saturday main event. Remember first, I mean, there's only
- 30:17Speaker 7: four matches.
- 30:18Speaker 5: But if you weren't confused enough, it's back on Peacock,
- 30:22Speaker 5: is it?
- 30:24Speaker 7: Oh?
- 30:24Speaker 5: Yes? And and and it's not on NBC anymore if
- 30:33Speaker 5: you weren't confused enough.
- 30:36Speaker 6: On the other But they I think maybe I don't know,
- 30:40Speaker 6: but maybe they're not constrained, but you know, they don't
- 30:44Speaker 6: maybe they don't have to be done at ten in
- 30:46Speaker 6: that case, you know, and maybe they like remember those
- 30:51Speaker 6: broadcasts were.
- 30:52Speaker 5: Just jammed, packing them with commercials, just constantly commercial commercial.
- 30:56Speaker 5: Now I'm sure they'll be commercials or maybe it won't.
- 30:58Speaker 5: You know, they won't be interrupting matches four times to
- 31:01Speaker 5: give us sucking conversion. So maybe maybe, I mean, I
- 31:06Speaker 5: think I think on paper.
- 31:08Speaker 6: This looks like the best Saturday Night Saturday Night's main
- 31:11Speaker 6: event card that they have given us. Uh in this
- 31:14Speaker 6: new iteration, what is this now the fourth or fifth?
- 31:17Speaker 6: Maybe I think this looks like the best one we've
- 31:20Speaker 6: gotten so far. I think they're throwing a lot of
- 31:22Speaker 6: ship at the wall here, uh, trying to because I'm afraid.
- 31:27Speaker 6: I'm afraid they're afraid no one's gonna see it. I'm
- 31:29Speaker 6: back going back to Peacock and if it's not NBC,
- 31:32Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
- 31:35Speaker 5: So I think there's a pretty ambitious uh card. I'm
- 31:38Speaker 5: glad this.
- 31:39Speaker 6: I hope there's no fifth match, because I think fifth
- 31:41Speaker 6: match would be too much if they've been packing these
- 31:44Speaker 6: shows too.
- 31:44Speaker 5: Much for matches on some breeze.
- 31:48Speaker 6: They're all championship matches, they're all big storylines. Uh maybe
- 31:54Speaker 6: the Jade Tiffy matches and some big but it's still
- 31:58Speaker 6: exciting match, I think.
- 31:59Speaker 5: Uh. Uh, I think they're I think they're going for
- 32:03Speaker 5: it here. I hope.
- 32:05Speaker 7: Yeah, like it's I'm reading here that the the deal
- 32:10Speaker 7: that WW has with Peacock not only the nxt pls,
- 32:14Speaker 7: but they still have the WW network library, but they
- 32:19Speaker 7: have also the Saturday night main event library, and SmackDown
- 32:24Speaker 7: will continue to stream one Peacock, but with a thirty
- 32:28Speaker 7: thirty day delay from his live broadcast on USA Network.
- 32:32Speaker 7: Holy shit, have you guys ever wanted to watch SmackDown
- 32:35Speaker 7: thirty days after it's fucking happened?
- 32:40Speaker 5: Oh?
- 32:40Speaker 7: Man, can't wait for that new season SmackDown the drive? Fuck?
- 32:44Speaker 7: I really wonder what the rewatch value is on some
- 32:47Speaker 7: of that shit, Like for me, rest like if somebody
- 32:53Speaker 7: goes back and actually like those Peacock episodes of SmackDown, Like,
- 32:57Speaker 7: does somebody actually watch SmackDown from like thirty days ago?
- 33:03Speaker 4: Wrestling has never had rewatched Well, I will say Wrestling
- 33:09Speaker 4: Raw and SmackDown or those weekly televised shows have never
- 33:13Speaker 4: carried any rewatch value to them, especially nowadays, where anything
- 33:18Speaker 4: of substance that happens is on YouTube within ten minutes
- 33:22Speaker 4: of it occurring.
- 33:24Speaker 5: That's good.
- 33:25Speaker 3: There's zero reason to go back and rewatch it.
- 33:28Speaker 4: Oh I missed it? Let me go on YouTube and
- 33:29Speaker 4: look it up. Okay, that's what happened. Cool done, Like
- 33:32Speaker 4: the only.
- 33:33Speaker 6: Time, yeah, the only rewatchable value was like when they
- 33:37Speaker 6: have like a best.
- 33:38Speaker 5: Of raw kind of DVD type of things.
- 33:41Speaker 6: And you're just seeing moments, you know, and not watching
- 33:45Speaker 6: you know, Naked Midian and you know Tech No Team.
- 33:49Speaker 5: Two thousand and all that because I'm going to shit
- 33:52Speaker 5: with garbage.
- 33:53Speaker 3: You know.
- 33:54Speaker 4: Yeah, moments and matches have rewatched value, and you can
- 33:58Speaker 4: look and find those anywhere. But full on episodes, oh yeah, yeah,
- 34:03Speaker 4: well you don't even go Nobody goes even goes back
- 34:05Speaker 4: and watches full episodes of pls like that really unless
- 34:10Speaker 4: you're doing it for like a very specific purpose. But
- 34:12Speaker 4: most of the time it's like you'll go back and
- 34:14Speaker 4: watch this match from a show, you know, watch this
- 34:17Speaker 4: match from WrestleMania, or this match from a Royal Rumble.
- 34:20Speaker 4: But most people aren't just gonna sit down like let
- 34:23Speaker 4: me pop on the nineteen ninety six Royal Rumble from
- 34:26Speaker 4: starting to finish in press play.
- 34:29Speaker 7: Carlos does that all the time, Like I said, for.
- 34:34Speaker 4: Unless you do it for a specific reason, sure then
- 34:37Speaker 4: you people will go back and rewatch stuff like that.
- 34:40Speaker 4: But I don't know that somebody's just randomly sitting around
- 34:43Speaker 4: like nineteen ninety five in your house.
- 34:48Speaker 6: Like I'll watch the ninety two Rumble every now and then,
- 34:51Speaker 6: but I don't watch the whole pay per view.
- 34:52Speaker 5: I just watched it. Yeah, you're right.
- 34:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I've gone back and watched plenty of old matches
- 34:59Speaker 3: and stuff.
- 34:59Speaker 6: Yeah, but I like to throw I like to throw
- 35:04Speaker 6: in the Ultimate Warrior, the Legion, the Doom and the
- 35:06Speaker 6: Texas Tornado versus uh, mister Perfect and all three members
- 35:10Speaker 6: of Demolition from Survivor series nineteen ninety I believe.
- 35:18Speaker 5: So.
- 35:19Speaker 6: Also the year also the year they did the Last
- 35:22Speaker 6: man Standing match at the end and it was like
- 35:25Speaker 6: Hogan Warrior and Tito Frush was like nine heels good ship.
- 35:32Speaker 5: Anyway, sorry, I digress ship. I think the animals are
- 35:37Speaker 5: taking invoice.
- 35:42Speaker 7: Uh yeah, so you're absolutely right, Like just confusing. I
- 35:46Speaker 7: mean we've been telling you you gotta go to ESPN.
- 35:49Speaker 7: Plus you know, yes, you had to watch Perth. Yeah,
- 35:52Speaker 7: because after you're done, go back to Peacock. So hopefully
- 35:59Speaker 7: you didn't like get rid of Peacock because you still
- 36:02Speaker 7: need it.
- 36:02Speaker 3: Friend Jesus Christ, I get, but it's on the chopping block.
- 36:07Speaker 7: Oh, my god, it's just ridiculous of how many apps
- 36:12Speaker 7: we need, guys, like, just to watch every bit of
- 36:15Speaker 7: pro wrestling, the hoops, the hoops, the hoops we got
- 36:20Speaker 7: to jump through.
- 36:22Speaker 5: Bead is a.
- 36:26Speaker 3: Generous term.
- 36:28Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's see how many apps are expected of
- 36:32Speaker 4: us to watch everything? M how many you actually need?
- 36:40Speaker 4: It's debatable depending on your tech savvy or your you know,
- 36:47Speaker 4: your moral compass, or your willingness to abide by the law.
- 36:53Speaker 7: M hm, boy boy are.
- 37:00Speaker 5: The loss is like a suggestion.
- 37:01Speaker 3: Though, mm hmmm. No one else was a suggestion. Stephanie McMahon.
- 37:08Speaker 3: She gave us a wonderful suggestion and I took her
- 37:13Speaker 3: up on it.
- 37:17Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
- 37:18Speaker 7: Okay, it takes some notes here, but I think I
- 37:24Speaker 7: think guys, it's time to refer back to the bracket.
- 37:30Speaker 7: Done don dune? Yes, okay, uh, last time we were
- 37:39Speaker 7: doing the bracket, let me flip the page. We settled
- 37:43Speaker 7: on Del Rio versus Eddie Guerrero over Rick Flair versus
- 37:49Speaker 7: Cody Roads. Awesome, cool, next one, next one? Uh hmmm, alright, guys,
- 38:03Speaker 7: we got Sean Michaels in his prime versus Eddie Guerrero
- 38:10Speaker 7: in his prime. This match or we have a prime
- 38:18Speaker 7: heel Jake the Snake of Roberts versus the legend Killer
- 38:25Speaker 7: Randy Orton. Don dun dum.
- 38:33Speaker 5: Uh.
- 38:36Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what, Like Jake the Snake versus Rayann
- 38:39Speaker 7: Orton be a great promos back and forth. Especially, I
- 38:44Speaker 7: couldn't even tell who could be the face. All right,
- 38:46Speaker 7: it'd be cool just having two nasty ass heels and
- 38:52Speaker 7: then just the in ring work alone between Eddie Garrow
- 38:58Speaker 7: and Sean michaels Is. It would be an amazing match.
- 39:02Speaker 7: I just don't know how that match has never happened.
- 39:07Speaker 7: How is that just the timing of these two wrestlers
- 39:10Speaker 7: being on different rosters. Before Eddie Gurrow passed away, I
- 39:15Speaker 7: think that's pretty much she was still wrestling. They kept
- 39:18Speaker 7: them pretty much separate.
- 39:21Speaker 5: Oh, when did Michael's come back?
- 39:23Speaker 3: Michael came.
- 39:26Speaker 7: Three or two or three because he did the elimination chamber.
- 39:30Speaker 5: I remember that it was like a huge the window
- 39:34Speaker 5: this happened and wasn't huge.
- 39:37Speaker 4: Yeah, it was two thousand and three when Sean came back.
- 39:39Speaker 4: It was Summer Slam two thousand and three, the same
- 39:42Speaker 4: Summer Slam that it was the year. It was the
- 39:44Speaker 4: year of brock Lessler. That's when Sean came back with
- 39:47Speaker 4: two thousand and three and we lost Eddie and what
- 39:50Speaker 4: two thousand six five?
- 39:54Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, it was.
- 39:55Speaker 4: Really only a two year maybe a year and had
- 39:59Speaker 4: a two year win though that they could have gone
- 40:01Speaker 4: against each other, and honestly, Eddie peaked well. Eddie won
- 40:06Speaker 4: the title the following year two thousand and four at
- 40:10Speaker 4: no way out from brock Lesner and Sean at that.
- 40:15Speaker 5: Was passed away pretty.
- 40:17Speaker 4: Much he I mean, I would I say peak as
- 40:21Speaker 4: far as when he became a champion like that was
- 40:23Speaker 4: like his highlight.
- 40:24Speaker 3: He kind of stayed there once he was there.
- 40:27Speaker 4: But that happened in two thousand and four, and at
- 40:31Speaker 4: that time, Sean was on Raw because that's when they
- 40:35Speaker 4: were actually still committed to the Rock to the brand split. Ye,
- 40:39Speaker 4: So Eddie was on SmackDown, Sean was on Raw going
- 40:41Speaker 4: after the world title, and I don't think they ever
- 40:44Speaker 4: found themselves on the same roster at the same time.
- 40:48Speaker 5: And there's no need to run some match because you
- 40:51Speaker 5: don't expect.
- 40:54Speaker 3: Anymore exactly.
- 40:59Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, Jake retired very very much earlier
- 41:06Speaker 7: before there was no uh, I mean, there was an
- 41:09Speaker 7: interaction between them, you know, back I got I can't yeah,
- 41:16Speaker 7: like two thousand and five or two thousand, yeah, five
- 41:19Speaker 7: or seventeen, but he was doing the the Legend killer
- 41:25Speaker 7: gimmick and he arkaoed, you know, Jake the Snake. But
- 41:30Speaker 7: I mean you're thinking, I'm thinking like prime Jake the Snake,
- 41:34Speaker 7: you know, and and and Kate Fae. I wonder who's
- 41:38Speaker 7: who would be more of an evil heal, you know,
- 41:44Speaker 7: like could we get a uh the viper getting bit
- 41:51Speaker 7: by a snake? I can see that happened, him bringing
- 41:54Speaker 7: his own snake to the to the ring and letting
- 41:57Speaker 7: it out. And do you ever see Randy Orton arkao
- 42:03Speaker 7: with snake before? But I think the promos would be
- 42:07Speaker 7: really good, you know, and what they would do to
- 42:10Speaker 7: each other on building up to the match, what heal,
- 42:13Speaker 7: this type ship they would do, you know?
- 42:18Speaker 5: Mhmm.
- 42:20Speaker 7: I don't know, but I mean, I I guess for me,
- 42:27Speaker 7: for the wrestling aspect, I think I'd be really excited
- 42:30Speaker 7: to see Shawn Michaels versus Eddie Gurero Trey. What are
- 42:36Speaker 7: you thinking?
- 42:41Speaker 4: We're talking about just a match, right, that's what we're
- 42:44Speaker 4: talking about. Yeah, Yeah, that makes that for me, makes
- 42:49Speaker 4: a big difference. If we were talking about just a
- 42:52Speaker 4: single match, I would probably go Sean Michaels versus Eddie
- 42:57Speaker 4: Guerrero if it was just a one off match. If
- 43:00Speaker 4: we were talking about a feud, then I would go
- 43:04Speaker 4: Randy Orton versus Jake the Snake. I think they would
- 43:07Speaker 4: have a much better feud that would probably get better
- 43:10Speaker 4: over time and culminate and you know some hellified steel
- 43:17Speaker 4: cage match where they're both just leading all over the
- 43:22Speaker 4: mat trying to kill each other. I definitely think those
- 43:25Speaker 4: two at you know, prime Jake the Snake Prime Morton
- 43:29Speaker 4: could have the better feud, and like you said, also,
- 43:32Speaker 4: you know, the promos would be incredible. I could see
- 43:36Speaker 4: Jake the Snake playing all types of mind games with
- 43:39Speaker 4: a Randy Orton and just really getting in his head
- 43:44Speaker 4: and fucking with him. Hell, it'd be hard to see
- 43:50Speaker 4: who would be even be the because if you think
- 43:52Speaker 4: about both of them in their prime, obviously they would
- 43:53Speaker 4: both probably be heels. So you're talking to heel on
- 43:56Speaker 4: heell and how that would work. But I still think
- 44:01Speaker 4: they would have the better feud. But we're just talking
- 44:03Speaker 4: about just a one off match one and done. Then Yeah, obviously,
- 44:09Speaker 4: I think Sean and Eddie would pull off the better
- 44:12Speaker 4: single match. You know, throw those two in the ring
- 44:14Speaker 4: at their best and let them cook. So yeah, I'm
- 44:21Speaker 4: gonna go with for just a single match. I'm going
- 44:25Speaker 4: with Sean and Eddie.
- 44:28Speaker 6: Ye's gonna do this because you know, I love Jay,
- 44:33Speaker 6: but I think we're gonna have a clean sleep here.
- 44:36Speaker 5: And yeah, he pretty much summed it up exactly what
- 44:39Speaker 5: I would have said.
- 44:42Speaker 6: If you want a feud, go with the sake Man
- 44:44Speaker 6: and the Viper, but just a match one on one,
- 44:48Speaker 6: you know, in a vacuum, I.
- 44:51Speaker 5: Mean hard, hard to beat HVK and Eddie Guerrero. Uh
- 44:56Speaker 5: so yeah, I think we're gonna all agree on this one.
- 45:00Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, cool. Then Sean Michaels and Eddie Guerrero proceed.
- 45:09Speaker 5: I do like the idea of Randy having his own
- 45:12Speaker 5: snake and they both kind of come down with a bag.
- 45:17Speaker 5: I kind of like that idea, like a python and
- 45:19Speaker 5: a viper. Yeah, yeah, right.
- 45:23Speaker 7: I think of the graphics they can make.
- 45:26Speaker 4: And that's the other thing to consider, given it they're
- 45:28Speaker 4: from such two totally different eras, Like what kind of
- 45:32Speaker 4: feud would they have?
- 45:33Speaker 3: Would would Orton and.
- 45:36Speaker 4: Jake would they have an eighties Golden era type feud
- 45:40Speaker 4: or would it be a more modern type feud, Because
- 45:44Speaker 4: if it was an old school type feud, then I
- 45:46Speaker 4: could see something like a Randy Orton being an apprentice
- 45:50Speaker 4: or you know, an underling of Jake the Snake, you know,
- 45:55Speaker 4: Jake the Snake and Randy the Viper, you know whatever
- 45:58Speaker 4: other cheesy you know eight it would say, and then
- 46:02Speaker 4: you know, the student turns on the teacher, which would
- 46:06Speaker 4: forced Jake the Snake to be the baby face and
- 46:09Speaker 4: having to put you know, the up and comer, you know,
- 46:13Speaker 4: legend killer viper trying to take out his teacher, the viper,
- 46:17Speaker 4: you know, how to put him back in his place
- 46:19Speaker 4: while the Viper's trying to take out the old snake.
- 46:22Speaker 4: That was really Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it,
- 46:25Speaker 4: I think as an eighty style feud, I think it
- 46:27Speaker 4: would probably work better than a modern type of feud.
- 46:34Speaker 5: Yeah, and Jake has the kind of promo and that
- 46:36Speaker 5: cheesy snake pit set, Yeah, with the with the rock whatever.
- 46:45Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it'd be interesting, would be pretty cool.
- 46:49Speaker 7: Mm hmm. Snake, Jake's the Snake. Roberts By the way
- 46:55Speaker 7: seventy years old.
- 46:58Speaker 5: Oh it doesn't look at over sixty nine.
- 47:04Speaker 7: You know what, though, Like he wouldn't be here, He
- 47:06Speaker 7: wouldn't even have made it to seventy if it wasn't
- 47:09Speaker 7: for page Yeah DDP yoga.
- 47:15Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it is, it is. It's pretty remarkable. He's
- 47:18Speaker 5: still yeah.
- 47:20Speaker 7: Yeah, he retired. He debuted in nineteen seventy five, and
- 47:26Speaker 7: he retired in twenty eighteen. Right, talking about another guy
- 47:32Speaker 7: way too long didn't win like a WW title.
- 47:36Speaker 5: You know, well, you know, back then almost nobody did.
- 47:42Speaker 5: That wasn't really yeah, yeah, you.
- 47:47Speaker 6: Know nowadays, nowadays almost everybody gets after novel.
- 47:53Speaker 5: Yeahd up, getting right.
- 47:56Speaker 4: By then, you were not getting a shot of nless
- 48:00Speaker 4: you were the man or getting ready to lose to
- 48:03Speaker 4: the man.
- 48:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 48:09Speaker 7: Yeah, back when there was only one world title and
- 48:13Speaker 7: it felt like a real championship because there was only
- 48:16Speaker 7: one of them. Uh cool, Uh alright, guys, let's talk
- 48:24Speaker 7: about the four matches that we got. Let's uh, let's
- 48:28Speaker 7: start off with Dominic Mysterio. He has been running and
- 48:35Speaker 7: lying and cheating and stealing and whatever it takes to
- 48:40Speaker 7: hold on to this fucking inner con title as long
- 48:42Speaker 7: as he did, and Uh, now it's kind of caught
- 48:46Speaker 7: up with him because now he has two people chasing him.
- 48:50Speaker 7: So now we're getting a triple threat match with Penta
- 48:53Speaker 7: and Erusive. You know, since Erusive has been back, he
- 48:59Speaker 7: has he going a a bunch of losses, believe it
- 49:03Speaker 7: or not. I mean, as much as it seems like
- 49:05Speaker 7: he's on the up and up, he has taken like
- 49:08Speaker 7: eighteen losses I think so far since he's been on
- 49:10Speaker 7: the roster. But I mean it also as many losses
- 49:19Speaker 7: as he's been taking, this seems like they've been really
- 49:21Speaker 7: pushing him.
- 49:22Speaker 3: I don't.
- 49:25Speaker 7: See this match could go either way because Penta is
- 49:28Speaker 7: so big and over right now. I'm a huge Pena fan.
- 49:32Speaker 7: I became a Penta fan since he became you know,
- 49:37Speaker 7: on WWE. So I mean I would love to see
- 49:41Speaker 7: Penta with the IC title or you know, giving Rusive
- 49:44Speaker 7: a purpose for coming back to this fucking company. I mean,
- 49:48Speaker 7: I don't think he came back to to just take
- 49:52Speaker 7: a bunch of losses, you know. But something tells me
- 49:58Speaker 7: like I've seen it. Uh, I don't know if this
- 50:03Speaker 7: is where it happens. I mean, it would make sense,
- 50:06Speaker 7: you know, but it seems like a lot of the
- 50:09Speaker 7: Judgment Day just does not want to help him. It
- 50:12Speaker 7: looks like the only person who still has any kind
- 50:15Speaker 7: of interest in Dom is Roxane Perez. Other than that,
- 50:20Speaker 7: you know, Finn Balor has been showing some resistance, and
- 50:23Speaker 7: JD and even Raquel, like, you know, so I think
- 50:28Speaker 7: if anybody is gonna be the next person removed from
- 50:32Speaker 7: the Judgment Day, Dom feels like the right man. Getting
- 50:36Speaker 7: removed and losing his icy title is a is a start,
- 50:44Speaker 7: and then he could lose that that other triple A
- 50:47Speaker 7: title he has. But even after he loses the size
- 50:51Speaker 7: the title, he still have another title. You know, he's
- 50:54Speaker 7: not completely goldless, But yeah, just how much longer can
- 51:01Speaker 7: he just keep ducking these matches until real, real wrestler
- 51:08Speaker 7: used to say, like comes in and just you know,
- 51:10Speaker 7: gets the best of them. And what better way to
- 51:13Speaker 7: get the best of them in a fucking triple threat?
- 51:15Speaker 7: But I see, you know what I think I'm gonna
- 51:19Speaker 7: I'm gonna settle on Dom retaining as much as I
- 51:22Speaker 7: see all the the you know, his backup against the wall,
- 51:27Speaker 7: it doesn't kay as any help. I don't know, man,
- 51:31Speaker 7: triple threat, I see somebody else doing all the work
- 51:36Speaker 7: and Dom slipping in there doing a roll up or something.
- 51:40Speaker 3: So, Dre, what are you thinking, Yeah, Dom's I see
- 51:47Speaker 3: Dom coming out with the title.
- 51:49Speaker 4: I mean, he may be ducking and hiding or doing
- 51:52Speaker 4: whatever to remain champion, but that's part of the interest
- 51:57Speaker 4: and part of what's compelling about his is how he
- 52:01Speaker 4: finds different ways to keep the title and the remain champion.
- 52:07Speaker 4: I think, as I said before, he's pretty much channeling
- 52:11Speaker 4: Eddie Guerrero and his actions now.
- 52:14Speaker 3: And he's making it work for himself.
- 52:18Speaker 4: You know, a lot of times when wrestlers try to
- 52:19Speaker 4: do something else, they're just seen as being a cheap
- 52:21Speaker 4: copy or you know, a knockoff where people immediately call
- 52:26Speaker 4: him out for like, oh, you're just ripping off so
- 52:27Speaker 4: and so. Tom is very clearly doing the Eddie Guerrero thing.
- 52:32Speaker 4: Maybe not a complete carbon copy, but he's doing it
- 52:35Speaker 4: and making it work for himself.
- 52:37Speaker 3: Yeah, and if he.
- 52:39Speaker 4: Continues and eventually, just like how people initially didn't like
- 52:44Speaker 4: when Eddie did it, but eventually he won them over
- 52:46Speaker 4: and people started to you know, cheer him and celebrate
- 52:49Speaker 4: and laugh and enjoy it, the same thing could hold
- 52:53Speaker 4: true for Dom at some point. It may take a
- 52:55Speaker 4: little bit longer, but at some point he may be
- 52:58Speaker 4: able to start to get over on that stuff. Let's
- 53:01Speaker 4: not forget people popped huge as funck when he won
- 53:04Speaker 4: that icy title. He got a massive pop when he wanted.
- 53:09Speaker 4: So there is definitely a contingent of fans that are
- 53:13Speaker 4: pro Dom, and I'm one of them. So you know,
- 53:19Speaker 4: that's where the interest is at, that's where the energy
- 53:21Speaker 4: is at. It's in Dom remaining champion. Penta, He's good,
- 53:26Speaker 4: he's over, he's popular, he ain't. He ain't I see champion.
- 53:34Speaker 4: He ain't at that status yet in my eyes.
- 53:38Speaker 3: And RUCEV now just just know.
- 53:46Speaker 4: I still would like to see Dom. Well, they've kind
- 53:49Speaker 4: of spoiled it already because they've done Dom versus RUSEF
- 53:52Speaker 4: one on ones already. Dom has done the cheating route
- 53:56Speaker 4: to stay champion. But I really still would like to
- 53:58Speaker 4: see Dom just face him and win clean without cheating.
- 54:02Speaker 4: But that's that's not where the character is at right now.
- 54:06Speaker 4: So but either way, Dom's walking out still champion, still
- 54:10Speaker 4: dirty Dom Dose belts.
- 54:13Speaker 7: M hm, Doyle, do you agree with us?
- 54:18Speaker 6: I sure do, Uh yeah, I don't think they can
- 54:22Speaker 6: keep they gonna They're Gonta Dom. It's a good problem,
- 54:26Speaker 6: but they got a Dom problem, and that is.
- 54:29Speaker 5: He's way too over.
- 54:30Speaker 6: It's like they're not gonna really keep him as a
- 54:32Speaker 6: heel any longer. I don't think I think it hasn't
- 54:35Speaker 6: turn him face. I don't think he has to change much,
- 54:40Speaker 6: you know, I think he can pretty much still do
- 54:41Speaker 6: the same shit.
- 54:42Speaker 5: I think Drey has said.
- 54:43Speaker 12: You know, and he did the same ship and got
- 54:45Speaker 12: here you know his his he was he did Live
- 54:48Speaker 12: cheating steel as as a baby face and he got
- 54:51Speaker 12: it over all, right, So I think don'son do the
- 54:53Speaker 12: same thing.
- 54:54Speaker 5: I just don't know what that means for Judgment day,
- 54:58Speaker 5: and I don't know what that means for he's coming back,
- 55:01Speaker 5: Like is Live a baby face when she comes back?
- 55:03Speaker 5: And you usually are when you come back from injury, right,
- 55:08Speaker 5: you know? Do you know how does rock rock helt rock? Yeah,
- 55:14Speaker 5: how does rock sand fit in with that? You know?
- 55:19Speaker 6: It seems like he hasn't you know, we haven't seen
- 55:22Speaker 6: Dom coming out of back rooms with rock.
- 55:24Speaker 5: Sand like we did with Live, you know, back in
- 55:27Speaker 5: the day, So theny're not dropping those hens. So maybe
- 55:30Speaker 5: he has in fact, uh not straight from Live or whatever.
- 55:34Speaker 5: Maybe they both turned baby face and lift them back.
- 55:36Speaker 6: I don't know, but I think there's no way a
- 55:38Speaker 6: hell Dommy dost Belts isn't walking into his hometown San
- 55:43Speaker 6: Diego with both of those championship still. And I'm pretty sure.
- 55:47Speaker 6: I don't know what they're gonna do with him there,
- 55:49Speaker 6: but I bet you he leaves with him too. But yeah,
- 55:53Speaker 6: he's If he doesn't turn face on Saturday and night,
- 55:56Speaker 6: I think he probably will survivor series or if not,
- 56:00Speaker 6: then very.
- 56:01Speaker 5: Soon because I don't think there was any he was.
- 56:05Speaker 6: He was backstage, you know, when he was asking for
- 56:09Speaker 6: help and the crowd was going dirty, dirty, dum dirty,
- 56:12Speaker 6: you know.
- 56:14Speaker 5: Just on he was backstage. So this kid is fucking
- 56:17Speaker 5: over a ship. I think he's hilarious. I really like him.
- 56:22Speaker 6: I think it's great breath of fresh air to move
- 56:26Speaker 6: him up the card.
- 56:28Speaker 5: I think that's what we're doing here. Uh yeah, so
- 56:33Speaker 5: I think we all agree. I think I think Tom
- 56:35Speaker 5: takes it.
- 56:38Speaker 4: I know Dom just defended the Triple A Mega Crown
- 56:42Speaker 4: against what was a Dragon Lee at A.
- 56:46Speaker 5: That sounds very right.
- 56:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:48Speaker 4: I think he just did like last weekend or something
- 56:50Speaker 4: like that at Triple A's latest pay per view, which
- 56:53Speaker 4: I didn't even know him was occurring because no promotion
- 56:58Speaker 4: for it.
- 56:59Speaker 3: I just happened to hear by at the last minute.
- 57:01Speaker 4: I'm I might have to look that up and try
- 57:03Speaker 4: to find it because I wonder if Dom was over,
- 57:07Speaker 4: if he's still as over as fuck.
- 57:08Speaker 3: With the Triple A crowd as he was.
- 57:13Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just curious about Yeah, compared to you know,
- 57:18Speaker 4: Ellie Jodel, Vi Kingo, he was way over compared to him, but.
- 57:23Speaker 5: Well he finally did actually turned heel. I think.
- 57:27Speaker 3: Vi Kingo did.
- 57:28Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I wonder how he was with Dragon Lee though.
- 57:34Speaker 4: I'm just curious. I'm gonna have to look that up.
- 57:38Speaker 7: Hum r dumb. I also heard UH today that they
- 57:47Speaker 7: said Live could be ready to wrestle again as soon
- 57:51Speaker 7: as the rumble. That'd be awesome.
- 57:54Speaker 5: Yeah, this is like when she comes back, she's gonna
- 57:57Speaker 5: be a babyface, right.
- 58:00Speaker 4: I would guess so, because clearly Roxanne and Raquel are
- 58:04Speaker 4: heels and they're working as heels. I could see Live
- 58:07Speaker 4: coming back, getting back up with Dom, you know, be
- 58:12Speaker 4: and be mostly inward focused on uh Judgment day affairs,
- 58:19Speaker 4: and we could see a splinser. We could definitely see
- 58:23Speaker 4: a a splinterer there, maybe where live Dom and maybe
- 58:30Speaker 4: a Finn Balor or JD or something go one way
- 58:34Speaker 4: and m Raquel and Roxanne go some go a different route.
- 58:41Speaker 4: I don't know there's something there, but I could see.
- 58:44Speaker 4: For as long as the run of Judgment Day has had,
- 58:48Speaker 4: I think we may have probably predicted this in the
- 58:51Speaker 4: past just to be proven wrong.
- 58:52Speaker 3: But I do think.
- 58:56Speaker 5: Be over.
- 59:00Speaker 3: I think twenty six year, I'm saying it. I'm saying it.
- 59:06Speaker 3: I think twenty twenty six is the year that they
- 59:08Speaker 3: finally split.
- 59:09Speaker 7: I don't know, it seems like the modern day like
- 59:12Speaker 7: Bullet Club, like ww's Bullet Club. But I mean we
- 59:15Speaker 7: just replaced the members until it's like a whole new
- 59:21Speaker 7: group of people. I mean, Ria Dom is next, Damien Priest,
- 59:27Speaker 7: Edge long gone.
- 59:29Speaker 3: Edge, Edge was the Edge was the first one out. Yeah,
- 59:33Speaker 3: then Priests.
- 59:35Speaker 4: But they are the only two guys that have been
- 59:37Speaker 4: kicked out. I mean Carlito got fired, oh yeah, and Carlo.
- 59:40Speaker 7: But still like yeah, you know what I mean, like
- 59:43Speaker 7: there has been member It's just like the Bullets women
- 59:46Speaker 7: have had WO It's like the original members are just
- 59:49Speaker 7: about gone.
- 59:51Speaker 3: So the original members are gone.
- 59:53Speaker 7: Oh they are gone. Yeah, pretty much.
- 59:55Speaker 3: There are. There are Edge, Damien and Rhea for the
- 59:59Speaker 3: original three.
- 1:00:00Speaker 7: Do you guys remember long so long ago? Oh my god,
- 1:00:05Speaker 7: like Tom.
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: That is still there is Finn Balor. Yeah, and Finn
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: was the fourth person to join, right.
- 1:00:16Speaker 7: Yes, because if Dom was Yeah, because Dom was.
- 1:00:20Speaker 5: After that.
- 1:00:23Speaker 7: Dirty Dom, dirty dirty Dom, dirty dirty dum.
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: I love it.
- 1:00:30Speaker 7: I mean, you know, the crowd has found a way
- 1:00:35Speaker 7: to to use that same style of chant for almost
- 1:00:38Speaker 7: every other wrestler. But uh, I'm okay with it. It's something.
- 1:00:44Speaker 7: So let's move on to the next match, shall we.
- 1:00:49Speaker 7: Uh Tiffany Stratton Tiffy Time versus a returning from a
- 1:00:56Speaker 7: big fucking gash in the face Jade Carr for the
- 1:01:00Speaker 7: w W Women's Championship. What I did?
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: Did you guys see the video of Jade getting her
- 1:01:07Speaker 6: makeup done for her appearance?
- 1:01:14Speaker 5: She posted it on our I g right, yes, And
- 1:01:19Speaker 5: I hate that they revealed that the scar. It was like,
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: I mean and yeah, well, I mean like she just
- 1:01:26Speaker 5: has a scar, but it's not nearly as I mean.
- 1:01:29Speaker 5: It looks cool, it looks and it actually really helps
- 1:01:32Speaker 5: her character actually, but I was so disappointed to find
- 1:01:36Speaker 5: out that that was many cop and not race.
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I kind of figured it was make up
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: when I saw it live and just saw how red
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: it was, because I'm like, a scar wouldn't naturally be
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: that red?
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: Should I should have kind of a bit of a giveaway,
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: But they fail.
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: Yeah, but I agree with you though, they did do
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: an excellent job of enhancing it and highlighting it, and
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: that it definitely worked for that should be probably be
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: a permanent part of her look.
- 1:02:06Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they You see Damian Priest after he
- 1:02:09Speaker 7: got that burn on his face and he came out
- 1:02:13Speaker 7: on SmackDown, he had the it was just make up
- 1:02:16Speaker 7: because I saw that. I saw it fucking smear. Uh funny, funny,
- 1:02:24Speaker 7: funny funny. Yeah, I saw Jade turned heel this week
- 1:02:30Speaker 7: tack Tiffany finally. Honestly, my opinion is that's how she
- 1:02:34Speaker 7: should have been a long time ago. I think back
- 1:02:40Speaker 7: when they had Naomi and and Bianca together, I think
- 1:02:44Speaker 7: she should have been the one to turn heel first.
- 1:02:47Speaker 7: But no, we decided to have her, you know, run
- 1:02:53Speaker 7: up against Tiffany twice already and lose. And as much
- 1:02:58Speaker 7: as I like Tiffany Stratton, she did take the l
- 1:03:02Speaker 7: at the last pl and honestly, she's probably gonna I
- 1:03:07Speaker 7: think this is it. She's gonna have to take this
- 1:03:09Speaker 7: one because you're really building Jade up coming back. Now
- 1:03:14Speaker 7: he'll to what lose again? I don't get it. Summer Slam,
- 1:03:19Speaker 7: you had her lose and we're gonna do it again.
- 1:03:21Speaker 7: We're gonna run it back, but this time now she's
- 1:03:23Speaker 7: a heel. So I just it's just math ain't mathon,
- 1:03:29Speaker 7: you know, I just can't see why they just won't,
- 1:03:36Speaker 7: you know, just pull the cord and just do it
- 1:03:38Speaker 7: with her. I mean, I think she'd be a fantastic
- 1:03:41Speaker 7: heel champion. It's pretty exciting. Where's Tiffy go from here?
- 1:03:49Speaker 7: I don't know. Maybe another rematch and fails and you
- 1:03:52Speaker 7: know she's gonna fall kind of down. Maybe go for
- 1:03:56Speaker 7: an IC title or the United States title, But uh yeah,
- 1:04:02Speaker 7: I think Tiffy time is up.
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: Dre they better good and god damn will win this
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: fucking Saturday the way they've been playing around with her.
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: Because she should have. I still say she should have
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: won a Summer Slam.
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: Because she beat the dog shit out of freaking Tiffy
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: throughout that whole match, and then Tivy you gets a
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: three move comeback and wins, which was some bullshit. The
- 1:04:34Speaker 4: at least in the other rematches they've ended in no contest.
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: I think they had one other rematch that ended in
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: no contest because Nya Jacks got involved out of fucking nowhere.
- 1:04:48Speaker 4: You know, they ain't they ain't done the Tiffy Nia
- 1:04:50Speaker 4: Jacks thing. They ain't beat that horse dead enough yet.
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: So yeah, they've really been playing around with Nia Jackson,
- 1:04:59Speaker 4: I mean, not with Jade in this title. But if
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: the end result is we finally get Jade as a
- 1:05:07Speaker 4: heel and she wins, then I'm okay. I do think
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: she needs to win in dominant fashion though, because she
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: has lost a little bit of her edge and taking
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: these repeated l's, and even if she did come back
- 1:05:23Speaker 4: and beat the snot out of Tiffy this past Friday,
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: they need to stay on that level and Jade needs
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: to win convincingly and dominant. She can't sit there and
- 1:05:37Speaker 4: dominate Tiffy at SummerSlam, dominate Tiffy in the rematch, and
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: then she turns hill and now she struggles to win.
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: Now she's gonna be a champion and be presumably hold
- 1:05:50Speaker 4: onto this belt for a good while. It needs to
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: start here with a convincing, dominant win over Tiffany Stratton.
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: They would have done this with Tiffy at one hundred
- 1:06:02Speaker 4: percent instead of having to nerve her with this knee
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: injury or whatever they stemmed from the beat down. I
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: feel like they know Tiffy don't really need to be
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: protected like that. She can just lose the title and
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: if she drops down the card a little bit, that's
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: not the worst thing that happened to her.
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: I get it.
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: She's popular with popular with the fans, popular with the guys.
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: But it's okay.
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: She kinda she can obviously perform in the ring, but
- 1:06:31Speaker 4: she still needs a little bit more polish. And that's
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: not I'm not saying that as a bad thing or
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: as an insult, like she kind of got fast tracked
- 1:06:40Speaker 4: to the top because of her popularity and her n
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: ring ability. She could use still a little bit more
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: polish in terms of defining her character. And when her
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: character is a little bit more well defined, then she'll
- 1:06:55Speaker 4: be ready to be back at the top.
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: But for now, Yep, fifty time needs to come to
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: an end. It needs to come to an abrupt end.
- 1:07:07Speaker 7: That's your time.
- 1:07:09Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we all we all agree again. Yeah, Tiffy
- 1:07:13Speaker 5: time is up. I'm afraid. Uh yeah, I mean pretty
- 1:07:18Speaker 5: much what Dre said. But you know, this is Tiffy's
- 1:07:23Speaker 5: first title ran.
- 1:07:24Speaker 6: Oh by the way, I think tomorrow, as we're recording
- 1:07:27Speaker 6: this on Wednesday, I think Thursday, the thirtieth will be
- 1:07:31Speaker 6: her three hundredth day champion.
- 1:07:34Speaker 5: So this has been a long title run for her.
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: I believe it's the third longest in like modern history.
- 1:07:44Speaker 5: Now I'm struggling to remember who was ahead of her.
- 1:07:46Speaker 5: Beyonca is one of them, and.
- 1:07:51Speaker 3: Bailey I can't remember.
- 1:07:54Speaker 6: I knew whatever, it doesn't matter. So, yeah, this has
- 1:07:58Speaker 6: been a really long run. And guess what, she's gonna
- 1:08:01Speaker 6: have a lot more uh. And yeah, she's still I
- 1:08:04Speaker 6: mean as much as Jade's green as grass. So it's Tiffany, right,
- 1:08:09Speaker 6: So yeah, it's not the end of the world if
- 1:08:11Speaker 6: she's not heavyweight, Eric I shouldn't say heavyweight for the ladies.
- 1:08:15Speaker 5: If she's not champion, you know, Yeah, she's not gonna
- 1:08:19Speaker 5: be She's gonna be fine, you know. Uh. And yeah,
- 1:08:24Speaker 5: she's she's still as great as she is. She does
- 1:08:27Speaker 5: have a lot of room to improve. So she isn't
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: even close to her peak yet, you know, talking about
- 1:08:34Speaker 5: peaks before, she's not even there yet. So she's got
- 1:08:36Speaker 5: nowhere to go but up. Uh. And yeah, if Jade
- 1:08:40Speaker 5: doesn't win the title here, what the fuck are we doing?
- 1:08:44Speaker 5: You know? Like, so it's just you know, there's really
- 1:08:49Speaker 5: no other choice.
- 1:08:51Speaker 7: Uh.
- 1:08:52Speaker 6: Yeah, And I thought, you know, I think she was
- 1:08:54Speaker 6: a heel for most of her time at ae W,
- 1:08:56Speaker 6: and I think she was a much better heel then
- 1:08:59Speaker 6: she was a baby your face?
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: Uh?
- 1:09:01Speaker 5: And yeah, I man, that star looks great, you know
- 1:09:04Speaker 5: what I mean?
- 1:09:04Speaker 6: It really uh really transforms that look, just gives it
- 1:09:09Speaker 6: a little you know, little jennas Quah.
- 1:09:15Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's change time, but.
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: I would say it was. It's Bianca and Becky.
- 1:09:23Speaker 4: Bianca's reign was forged in twenty days and Becky lynches
- 1:09:26Speaker 4: at a rain of three hundred ninety nine days.
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: There you go, oh speak.
- 1:09:31Speaker 6: I guess the only way I could see Tippy retaining
- 1:09:34Speaker 6: is if Beyondcome returns and costs Jade somehow.
- 1:09:38Speaker 5: Ah, but how you can't do that in every match,
- 1:09:43Speaker 5: and I we're going to get some of that later.
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's no reason.
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: Yeah, it is no reason for Bianca to return and
- 1:09:52Speaker 4: cost Jade the title, but it doesn't really especially giving
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: it Jade's a heel now.
- 1:09:59Speaker 5: So so yeah, I think we're gonna all go with.
- 1:10:02Speaker 7: Jade, all right, Fellas God, I can't believe we're already
- 1:10:09Speaker 7: halfway through this.
- 1:10:14Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:10:15Speaker 7: Cody Rose versus three McIntyre for the Undisputed WW Championship.
- 1:10:22Speaker 7: There was a number one contenders mass for for it.
- 1:10:26Speaker 7: It was true McIntyre versus the Jacob fought too, and
- 1:10:32Speaker 7: I guess Jacob actually has some real life dental work
- 1:10:35Speaker 7: that needs to be done, but they decided to fuck it.
- 1:10:37Speaker 7: We're kind of right into the story and he got
- 1:10:39Speaker 7: jumped backstage and he has teeth all over the place.
- 1:10:43Speaker 7: So I thought that was pretty good. But yeah, then
- 1:10:48Speaker 7: they had Drew and Cody, uh duke it out that
- 1:10:54Speaker 7: night and Cody was in his suit and he's trying
- 1:10:58Speaker 7: to give Drew the matt right then and there. And
- 1:11:03Speaker 7: then this week I saw Drew versus Jimmy in a
- 1:11:06Speaker 7: street fight that was pretty good. Uh, you know what,
- 1:11:12Speaker 7: it sucks because we Drew just seems like he just
- 1:11:16Speaker 7: gets so close and then, you know, since he's been
- 1:11:19Speaker 7: to heel. He's only held the title once and he
- 1:11:22Speaker 7: held it for five minutes.
- 1:11:24Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:11:27Speaker 7: I like to see heel Drew as a champion. And
- 1:11:30Speaker 7: it's funny because I think Cody and Drew discussed it together,
- 1:11:34Speaker 7: and Cody would like to see true as heel champion
- 1:11:37Speaker 7: even and we didn't. We didn't get it. I don't
- 1:11:42Speaker 7: think we're gonna get it again. I Cody might just
- 1:11:46Speaker 7: hold on to this fucking thing until WrestleMania. I swear
- 1:11:50Speaker 7: to god, I don't want it to happen, but it
- 1:11:54Speaker 7: seems like that's where we're heading, super Cody, you know,
- 1:11:58Speaker 7: ever since he got it back from seeing yuh this year,
- 1:12:02Speaker 7: super Cody, that's what I think we're getting. But damn,
- 1:12:07Speaker 7: I Drew gets so close, and I think he'd just
- 1:12:12Speaker 7: be an awesome fucking heel champion. You know, I'm content
- 1:12:16Speaker 7: writing Cody rhads off a TV for for a hot minute,
- 1:12:20Speaker 7: go do some street fighter or something else. Uh. If
- 1:12:27Speaker 7: there I doubt there'll be any interference in this. If
- 1:12:31Speaker 7: there is, it's gonna be from Jimmy, But I doubt it.
- 1:12:35Speaker 7: I I feel like this is gonna be straight up match,
- 1:12:38Speaker 7: So unless you guys think otherwise, dre What.
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: Do you think again?
- 1:12:47Speaker 4: I know everybody name Mama wants to see Drew as champion,
- 1:12:51Speaker 4: but it ain't happening Saturday again. Cody just got the
- 1:12:57Speaker 4: title back and not taking it all from that quickly.
- 1:13:01Speaker 5: Mm hm.
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: So no, Drew's not gonna win. It's just gonna be
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: a match. This is just gonna be in the same
- 1:13:10Speaker 4: vein of other Saturday night main events where they just
- 1:13:13Speaker 4: play it safe. It's gonna be a one on one match.
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: It'll be.
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: It's not gonna be a terrible match, but I don't
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: expect anything, you know, crazier over the top to happen.
- 1:13:26Speaker 4: I think it's just gonna be your standard one v
- 1:13:29Speaker 4: one title match that Cody's gonna come out on top end.
- 1:13:36Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, Well how are you feeling, man?
- 1:13:41Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean everybody's written for Drew, I think, and
- 1:13:45Speaker 6: you know, a bold move would certainly be to put
- 1:13:50Speaker 6: the title onto here, But yeah, I don't think they're
- 1:13:54Speaker 6: gonna do it either. I wish they would, but I
- 1:13:58Speaker 6: don't think they're gonna.
- 1:14:03Speaker 5: However, I guess I could see this.
- 1:14:05Speaker 13: Ending in a d Q or something like that. I
- 1:14:07Speaker 13: see Drew winning by VQ or whatever, and you know,
- 1:14:11Speaker 13: so that way nobody you know, I kind of don't
- 1:14:14Speaker 13: want Drew to get pinned or submitted. H someone mind
- 1:14:18Speaker 13: seeing the DQ actually or something like that.
- 1:14:21Speaker 5: And uh, you know, this fee can continue to progress.
- 1:14:27Speaker 5: I don't know if if is who who.
- 1:14:32Speaker 6: Tried to take out Jacob Flatu gonna be an ongoing
- 1:14:35Speaker 6: thing or is this gonna be the kind of thing
- 1:14:37Speaker 6: we don't hear about.
- 1:14:38Speaker 5: It again until he comes back?
- 1:14:40Speaker 6: Like, Uh, well, I you know, do we just talking
- 1:14:42Speaker 6: about Jay just like that who pushed Jade thing where
- 1:14:45Speaker 6: we heard about him for a couple of weeks and
- 1:14:46Speaker 6: nothing until the moment he came back, right, Uh so
- 1:14:51Speaker 6: that's kind of a you know, where does that play
- 1:14:54Speaker 6: in all of this?
- 1:14:55Speaker 5: Yeah? I don't see Jimmy getting involved in this. Uh.
- 1:14:58Speaker 5: I think Jimmy might be busy else where. Yeah, I
- 1:15:03Speaker 5: hope no one else gets involved in this, but you know,
- 1:15:06Speaker 5: maybe a d Q. But yeah, I don't think Drew
- 1:15:09Speaker 5: is gonna win the title.
- 1:15:14Speaker 7: Hm hm, you have folks clean sweep again. A lot
- 1:15:19Speaker 7: of these matches seem pretty predictable so far, which means
- 1:15:25Speaker 7: they probably won't be predictable.
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: In a sense that of what should probably happen.
- 1:15:33Speaker 7: Yeah, what should happen?
- 1:15:34Speaker 5: I agree, Well, I have a feeling this this. If
- 1:15:38Speaker 5: we all have we all may have a wildly different
- 1:15:41Speaker 5: differing opinions of what's going to happen in the this
- 1:15:44Speaker 5: last match happens here. I think there's a lot of
- 1:15:49Speaker 5: different directions this could cut.
- 1:15:54Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, guys, let's move on to what I
- 1:15:58Speaker 7: think is the main event, Jay Huso versus Cmpunk for
- 1:16:07Speaker 7: the vacated World Heavyweight Championship.
- 1:16:11Speaker 5: Now we know.
- 1:16:13Speaker 7: Jay won the title earlier this year and then he
- 1:16:20Speaker 7: lost it. He won the rumble, he won the title,
- 1:16:23Speaker 7: he only held onto it for two months I believe,
- 1:16:28Speaker 7: and then that was it. But also, like Drew, cmpunk
- 1:16:33Speaker 7: held the title this year for a very short amount
- 1:16:37Speaker 7: of time, uh not long at all before Seth was
- 1:16:42Speaker 7: able to cash in. So, you know, we got two
- 1:16:46Speaker 7: guys on on this on this card who kind of
- 1:16:49Speaker 7: got screwed out of their last world title runs being
- 1:16:53Speaker 7: very short and both uh both of them got cashed
- 1:16:57Speaker 7: in on which which kind of sucks to him. But
- 1:17:04Speaker 7: I also have I I think Jay's popularity is over
- 1:17:11Speaker 7: just for the entrance, that's it. Because on YouTube you
- 1:17:16Speaker 7: could you could see for yourself. The most disliked videos
- 1:17:20Speaker 7: of Jays are are him winning the title disliked disliked videos? Yeah,
- 1:17:32Speaker 7: I mean I on YouTube. That's I mean, it's rough
- 1:17:35Speaker 7: when you're when your videos are disliked. His victory becoming
- 1:17:38Speaker 7: world Champion at Russell for Russell, Uh yeah, and his
- 1:17:46Speaker 7: quick win against Austin Theory and his win in the
- 1:17:49Speaker 7: for All Battle of Royalties have received a large number
- 1:17:52Speaker 7: of dislikes. Uh yeah, that's that's that's rough. I'm assuming
- 1:18:01Speaker 7: he's still his merch sales are still good, but he's
- 1:18:04Speaker 7: been hinting towards a heel turn. I don't think that's
- 1:18:07Speaker 7: really gonna matter all that match much. In this match,
- 1:18:13Speaker 7: I think given the age and the time and the
- 1:18:18Speaker 7: moment and the popularity and the situation the end of
- 1:18:22Speaker 7: the day, I you know, four letters, one word, you know,
- 1:18:29Speaker 7: see him punk, it's punk. I think they're gonna give
- 1:18:34Speaker 7: it to Punk this time. Yeah, I know, Punk, But
- 1:18:39Speaker 7: I think that's who they're gonna give it to. And
- 1:18:41Speaker 7: I think they they're pretty confident with their decision. I
- 1:18:48Speaker 7: think we're not done with j in this this heel turn,
- 1:18:52Speaker 7: but I don't think it's gonna be I think he's
- 1:18:56Speaker 7: just gonna keep chasing that world title. But I you know,
- 1:18:59Speaker 7: will people still yeat if he's a heel? Does it
- 1:19:03Speaker 7: work even if he's a heel. You know, I don't know.
- 1:19:08Speaker 7: I really don't know, but yeah, it's punk for me. Man,
- 1:19:14Speaker 7: h Dre, What are you thinking? How about you?
- 1:19:23Speaker 5: Well?
- 1:19:24Speaker 4: One, if obviously if Jay turns hell, then the yeat
- 1:19:27Speaker 4: has the and then it does not work. That's part
- 1:19:33Speaker 4: of the thing that's probably holding them back from it
- 1:19:36Speaker 4: because it's he's got the most over entrance and all
- 1:19:39Speaker 4: of WW right now probably with everybody yeating, and so
- 1:19:44Speaker 4: if they're gonna get rid of that, if they're gonna
- 1:19:45Speaker 4: turn him heal, his entrance has to change, which means
- 1:19:49Speaker 4: we have to deal with another potential shitty ass death
- 1:19:53Speaker 4: rebel theme for Jay as a heel. That sure nobody
- 1:19:57Speaker 4: wants that. So there's that as far as any prospect
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: of him turning heel also fucked him goddamn fans and
- 1:20:11Speaker 4: down voting all his videos and shit. Only reason why
- 1:20:15Speaker 4: that happens is because they have chosen Jy for things
- 1:20:19Speaker 4: at times when fans wanted somebody else. The people are
- 1:20:23Speaker 4: voting or have been dunking on his ship because they
- 1:20:26Speaker 4: as much as people like j want to eat with
- 1:20:28Speaker 4: Jay and all stuff, they just they don't want to
- 1:20:31Speaker 4: see him there yet. Like when he wanted the World Rumble,
- 1:20:36Speaker 4: it got down voted. Why because everybody wanted either punk
- 1:20:39Speaker 4: or seeing it to do it. Everybody wants we want
- 1:20:42Speaker 4: Punk to have his money, We want to punk in
- 1:20:43Speaker 4: wrestle and he want to punk the main event, or
- 1:20:46Speaker 4: they wanted to seeing it do it because he did
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: his retirement, or and they said nope, we're going with J.
- 1:20:50Speaker 4: That's why everybody threw a hissy fit and bitched about
- 1:20:52Speaker 4: it and down voted the video. Same thing here with
- 1:20:55Speaker 4: this battle Royal. Who would everybody wanted to see win it.
- 1:21:00Speaker 5: L A.
- 1:21:00Speaker 7: Knight?
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: We want l A. Knight, We want l A.
- 1:21:03Speaker 5: Knight.
- 1:21:03Speaker 4: No be getting Jau sopoo. Fuck this shit, and they
- 1:21:06Speaker 4: down voted. Shut up fucking fans, theyb all right, get
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: over it. Quite Frankly, I've said it before.
- 1:21:18Speaker 5: L A.
- 1:21:18Speaker 3: Knight is just.
- 1:21:21Speaker 4: Nothing against him. Yes, he's over, he's popular, you know.
- 1:21:25Speaker 4: I know we were talking earlier this year we thought l. A.
- 1:21:28Speaker 4: Knight had peaked at plateaued, but he somehow managed to
- 1:21:31Speaker 4: get his momentum back.
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: Props to him for that.
- 1:21:34Speaker 4: But over these last few weeks months plus that we've
- 1:21:40Speaker 4: been in this whole three way battle for the thing
- 1:21:44Speaker 4: for the world title between l A.
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: Knight, See Him Punk and Jay Uso.
- 1:21:48Speaker 5: L A.
- 1:21:48Speaker 4: Knight is the one who has no story See Him
- 1:21:52Speaker 4: Punk clearly has his story with Seth Brollins and their
- 1:21:55Speaker 4: ongoing blood feud, so he had, you know, a storyline
- 1:22:01Speaker 4: reason for being in the picture. Jay has the story
- 1:22:04Speaker 4: of former champion lost it, trying to get the title back,
- 1:22:09Speaker 4: trying to find out find his way to get that
- 1:22:11Speaker 4: back into being champion. What he's been doing is doesn't
- 1:22:15Speaker 4: seem to be working. So he's having a crisis of character.
- 1:22:19Speaker 4: You know, does he does he go the heel route?
- 1:22:22Speaker 4: Does he be more Roman like something? But he has
- 1:22:26Speaker 4: a storyline going on with his pursuit of the title.
- 1:22:30Speaker 4: Al like, that's just a motherfucker that just wants to
- 1:22:32Speaker 4: be champion, That's it. He's just like, I want to
- 1:22:37Speaker 4: be champed and I'm popular as hell. Literally the only
- 1:22:42Speaker 4: reason he's in the title picture. He has no storyline,
- 1:22:46Speaker 4: no character story. The only thing he really has, you
- 1:22:50Speaker 4: could say, is probably the people. But guess what else
- 1:22:54Speaker 4: has the people? See him?
- 1:22:55Speaker 5: Punk?
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: Guess who else has the people according to what we
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: see in the arena every night? That the jay Uso.
- 1:23:03Speaker 4: So what does La Knight have that sets him apart
- 1:23:05Speaker 4: from the others to be in the final picture? Maybe
- 1:23:09Speaker 4: the IWC, I guess, since apparently that's you know. The
- 1:23:13Speaker 4: IWC's choice for champion was that, and it'll come with time,
- 1:23:18Speaker 4: but not right now. So they didn't get what they wanted.
- 1:23:21Speaker 4: That's why they dunking all over him winning. But creatively,
- 1:23:25Speaker 4: there's no reason for him to be in this in
- 1:23:27Speaker 4: this match, they made the right choice in going with
- 1:23:31Speaker 4: seem Punk versus jay Uso, because right now, either one
- 1:23:35Speaker 4: of them could walk out a champion. It's a true
- 1:23:38Speaker 4: fifty to fifty see them Punk could win clean see them.
- 1:23:43Speaker 4: Punk could do some heel shit to win. Jay Uso
- 1:23:46Speaker 4: could win clean j could do some heel shit to win.
- 1:23:50Speaker 4: You could go any route and to have this outcome
- 1:23:58Speaker 4: and to get to the finish to this match, and
- 1:24:02Speaker 4: as long as it's executed right, it would seem to
- 1:24:05Speaker 4: be a valid outcome. That's what makes this match the
- 1:24:11Speaker 4: most compelling, makes it the best option. I'm gonna go
- 1:24:15Speaker 4: with jay Uso winning just because I think, no, no,
- 1:24:23Speaker 4: let me reconsider that I was gonna say I was
- 1:24:26Speaker 4: I was thinking that. I was thinking that Jay might
- 1:24:28Speaker 4: turn heel and win. But I don't think they're gonna
- 1:24:30Speaker 4: pull that trigger. I don't think they're gonna do that,
- 1:24:35Speaker 4: And I don't know how much how much longer they're
- 1:24:37Speaker 4: gonna hold back, you know, on Punk being champion as well,
- 1:24:46Speaker 4: and then whoever whichever one of these two becomes champion
- 1:24:48Speaker 4: is almost certainly gonna.
- 1:24:50Speaker 3: Drop it to bron Breaker probably at some point.
- 1:24:56Speaker 4: And I think, if you know, if we're projected, if
- 1:24:59Speaker 4: we're looking for forward beyond that, what is the more
- 1:25:02Speaker 4: compelling storyline there or makes for the bigger moment for
- 1:25:07Speaker 4: bron there, I think it would probably be bron Breaker
- 1:25:11Speaker 4: defeating see him Punk to become champion rather than him
- 1:25:15Speaker 4: defeating Ju. I think a bron Breaker versus Jay Usso
- 1:25:20Speaker 4: world title match would seem very lopsided in bron Breaker's favor,
- 1:25:25Speaker 4: and with the IWC's disdained, it would almost damn near
- 1:25:31Speaker 4: put bron Breaker as the face in that match, even
- 1:25:33Speaker 4: though he's supposed to very obviously be the heel. And
- 1:25:36Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they want to preserve bron Breaker as
- 1:25:38Speaker 4: a heel for as long as they can, and the
- 1:25:42Speaker 4: easiest way to do that is to put him up
- 1:25:44Speaker 4: against Punk. So I'm gonna say Punk probably walks out
- 1:25:48Speaker 4: as champion.
- 1:25:52Speaker 7: Cool.
- 1:25:54Speaker 5: I thought I was gonna have to break a tie
- 1:25:56Speaker 5: there for a second.
- 1:25:58Speaker 7: What do you think now?
- 1:26:00Speaker 4: I will say if Jay, if Jay wins the title,
- 1:26:02Speaker 4: I think Jay probably wins it, turning heel.
- 1:26:06Speaker 3: But I don't think they're gonna do that, not yet.
- 1:26:11Speaker 5: Here's why I don't think Phil's gonna win. Uh. And
- 1:26:16Speaker 5: that's because I think when he does.
- 1:26:21Speaker 6: Finally win, I think it needs to be a bigger
- 1:26:23Speaker 6: moment than Saturday Night's main event.
- 1:26:26Speaker 5: I think it needs to be a stadium. Doesn't necessarily
- 1:26:29Speaker 5: have to be Mania, but it needs to be Summersliam
- 1:26:32Speaker 5: or uh, you know, the Rumble or something like that.
- 1:26:37Speaker 5: And I don't think this is big enough stage for
- 1:26:40Speaker 5: them to do that. I think there's much more money
- 1:26:42Speaker 5: in the chase with Punk than Punk actually being champion. Uh.
- 1:26:48Speaker 5: I'm not gonna predict this.
- 1:26:49Speaker 6: With what I hope they do is we talked about him,
- 1:26:53Speaker 6: you know, getting a little longer in the tooth, and
- 1:26:57Speaker 6: so let's say he only is gonna do this for
- 1:26:59Speaker 6: three or four more yours.
- 1:27:01Speaker 5: I kind of hope they don't give him the title
- 1:27:02Speaker 5: until close to the end, you know.
- 1:27:04Speaker 6: And this is just like the highest whole story for
- 1:27:08Speaker 6: the rest of his career is him just almost getting there,
- 1:27:11Speaker 6: almost getting there, and then not.
- 1:27:12Speaker 5: Getting there, you know, over and over and over. Uh. So,
- 1:27:16Speaker 5: I don't think he's gonna win because I think there's.
- 1:27:18Speaker 6: More money in the chase for him, and I don't
- 1:27:20Speaker 6: think this is a big enough moment. I don't think
- 1:27:25Speaker 6: anyone is gonna win this match. I think Saturday Night's
- 1:27:29Speaker 6: main event is going to end without a definitive world
- 1:27:33Speaker 6: heavyweight champion.
- 1:27:35Speaker 5: I think Vacant will still be the champion at the
- 1:27:37Speaker 5: end of the night.
- 1:27:40Speaker 6: I think bron bre the Bronze are one hundred thousand
- 1:27:44Speaker 6: percent We're gonna get involved in this match, and if
- 1:27:49Speaker 6: if not them directly getting the match thrown out, all
- 1:27:53Speaker 6: the other michigants. That ends up happening when Jimmy gets involved.
- 1:27:57Speaker 6: This is where I think Jimmy gets involved in this show.
- 1:28:00Speaker 5: Uh and whoever the fuck ouse ah So, I think this.
- 1:28:05Speaker 6: I think this match is gonna end up getting thrown
- 1:28:07Speaker 6: out and we're gonna have to find something else to
- 1:28:09Speaker 6: do to determine a new champion.
- 1:28:13Speaker 5: Tons of fun possibilities there.
- 1:28:16Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know.
- 1:28:18Speaker 5: Maybe you do.
- 1:28:22Speaker 14: If they could do like eight man kind of like
- 1:28:25Speaker 14: singles war games match, you know, where like everybody goes
- 1:28:29Speaker 14: in one by one and nothing happens, nobody can win
- 1:28:31Speaker 14: until everybody's in there and somebody's gonna pin somebody else
- 1:28:34Speaker 14: in there.
- 1:28:35Speaker 3: Or you know something like that.
- 1:28:37Speaker 5: Uh, that would be fun.
- 1:28:40Speaker 3: Right around.
- 1:28:43Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Or maybe they do some kind of thing
- 1:28:45Speaker 5: where like.
- 1:28:48Speaker 15: I don't know, they make they make you know, Phil
- 1:28:52Speaker 15: and Jay get a team and whoever whoever team wins,
- 1:28:57Speaker 15: they have a four way match, and the winner of
- 1:28:59Speaker 15: that wins the title. You know, so there's like incentive
- 1:29:03Speaker 15: to get you know, somebody wants Brock on their.
- 1:29:05Speaker 6: Team, even though they're gonna have to face him at
- 1:29:07Speaker 6: some point, but to forget the chance to win the belt.
- 1:29:09Speaker 6: You know, you might have some strange bedfellows that might
- 1:29:12Speaker 6: be fun. Uh, you can do all kinds of stuff,
- 1:29:16Speaker 6: you know, with a with a vacated title.
- 1:29:18Speaker 5: Uh. So I think they're gonna keep it.
- 1:29:20Speaker 6: Vacated here and neither of them we're gonna win this
- 1:29:23Speaker 6: match certainty that Ron's get involved and fuck it up.
- 1:29:32Speaker 7: All right, Well there you have it, get involved. Uh yeah,
- 1:29:41Speaker 7: what I guess this is this normal start time.
- 1:29:44Speaker 3: Huh damn it. I was made that whole time.
- 1:29:47Speaker 7: We're at Salt Lake City, Utah, at the Delta Center. Man, Dre,
- 1:29:51Speaker 7: You've probably having so much shit to say.
- 1:29:54Speaker 4: No, only thing I was saying was that that is
- 1:29:56Speaker 4: some very inspired booking, like I have hadn't even considered
- 1:30:01Speaker 4: the possibility that of there being no winner, and that
- 1:30:07Speaker 4: actually that kind of that kind of solves all of
- 1:30:12Speaker 4: the problems. You know, you don't piss off one fan
- 1:30:16Speaker 4: base or the other. You don't have to, you know,
- 1:30:19Speaker 4: make the decision of turning or possibly turning one heel
- 1:30:23Speaker 4: or the other.
- 1:30:26Speaker 3: You don't have to figure if you arguing, yeah, you
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: don't have to force.
- 1:30:32Speaker 4: It onto Jay against the you know, the i w C,
- 1:30:37Speaker 4: or you don't have to, you know, set one of
- 1:30:39Speaker 4: these guys up to have to drop the title to Braun,
- 1:30:42Speaker 4: because you could find a way to get Braun in
- 1:30:44Speaker 4: a match, in a multi van match where he comes
- 1:30:47Speaker 4: out as the champion and within protecting the others.
- 1:30:51Speaker 3: That actually solves a lot of problems.
- 1:30:53Speaker 4: If they somehow yet walk out with no definitive winner,
- 1:30:58Speaker 4: and you could and it also potentially solves your war
- 1:31:02Speaker 4: Games problem maybe not having Oh I don't know, if
- 1:31:07Speaker 4: you could make if you could find some creative way
- 1:31:09Speaker 4: to make the war Games match itself for the World
- 1:31:12Speaker 4: Heavyweight Championship.
- 1:31:14Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was saying, Like, maybe, I don't know,
- 1:31:18Speaker 5: I don't know how you get there.
- 1:31:19Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how you get there because war
- 1:31:21Speaker 4: Games has usually been teams matches.
- 1:31:24Speaker 16: But if you could some maybe maybe the team that wins,
- 1:31:27Speaker 16: maybe the team that wins then has a four way
- 1:31:29Speaker 16: right then and there inside the cage, and whoever wins
- 1:31:34Speaker 16: is the new champion.
- 1:31:35Speaker 4: That'd be a hell of a damn gauntlet. But that
- 1:31:38Speaker 4: would make for some strange bedfellows. The only problem with me, Yeah,
- 1:31:42Speaker 4: the only problem with that.
- 1:31:43Speaker 5: That's how you get Felling. That's how you get Felling
- 1:31:46Speaker 5: Roman on the same team again.
- 1:31:49Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing, Like, Yeah, you'd have to you
- 1:31:52Speaker 3: have to find enough people to what you.
- 1:31:55Speaker 5: Want to be on a team that's gonna win because
- 1:31:56Speaker 5: you want a chance with the title.
- 1:31:59Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're also now inserting a lot of newer
- 1:32:03Speaker 4: people into the world title picture that haven't been in there.
- 1:32:06Speaker 4: I think that's the only issue that I can think
- 1:32:09Speaker 4: of in terms of a War Games team match set up, because,
- 1:32:15Speaker 4: like I said, you have to then find you know,
- 1:32:18Speaker 4: a whole lot of rambling or you know, maneuvering to
- 1:32:20Speaker 4: get teams together. And while it is very compelling, if
- 1:32:29Speaker 4: you think about the world title picture right now, there's
- 1:32:31Speaker 4: really four people in it, right, Jay, punk l A Knight,
- 1:32:39Speaker 4: bron Breaker.
- 1:32:42Speaker 3: There's those four.
- 1:32:43Speaker 4: If you're gonna do a War Games match, you'll probably
- 1:32:45Speaker 4: have to find at least four more people.
- 1:32:48Speaker 3: So how do you get more people?
- 1:32:56Speaker 4: Yeah, there are names you can pull, but how do
- 1:32:58Speaker 4: you get them in there without without it feeling forced?
- 1:33:02Speaker 4: H without it feeling like, oh, titles vacant here, I
- 1:33:06Speaker 4: come out of nowhere, you know, just oh that thing's vacant.
- 1:33:10Speaker 3: I'm in here now. I'm also in here now.
- 1:33:12Speaker 4: And especially that if you throw that many big names
- 1:33:15Speaker 4: in it, potentially then you're, ah, it could it could get.
- 1:33:26Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm still trying.
- 1:33:28Speaker 4: I still come from the school of trying to make
- 1:33:29Speaker 4: some ship makes sense without being overly forced. I mean, yes,
- 1:33:36Speaker 4: they could just go the route of the titles up
- 1:33:38Speaker 4: for grabs and here's this team and yeah, boom John
- 1:33:41Speaker 4: Seena's music hit. Next week Boom Roman's music hits, and
- 1:33:44Speaker 4: or you know, Jay and Jimmy are like, hey, we're
- 1:33:46Speaker 4: on a team together because we're brothers.
- 1:33:48Speaker 3: We need somebody else.
- 1:33:49Speaker 4: So then you end up with a bloodline team, which,
- 1:33:53Speaker 4: again that would make sense from a team standpoint unless
- 1:33:56Speaker 4: you have what Jimmy j or and a fourth of
- 1:34:02Speaker 4: what Sena versus what La Knight Bronson Reed bron Breaker
- 1:34:08Speaker 4: and I mean La Knight bron Breaker, seeing Punk and
- 1:34:12Speaker 4: brock Lesner.
- 1:34:15Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems kind.
- 1:34:16Speaker 4: Of Yeah, it doesn't really make a whole lot of
- 1:34:18Speaker 4: sense as far as the team building standpoint, And then
- 1:34:22Speaker 4: it would almost seem pretty obvious that the non bloodline
- 1:34:26Speaker 4: team is going to win because you're not really gonna
- 1:34:30Speaker 4: have Jimmy versus Jay versus Roman versus somebody else in
- 1:34:33Speaker 4: a fatal four way for the world title, because that's
- 1:34:36Speaker 4: where it gets a little convoluted. It's trying to make
- 1:34:38Speaker 4: the teams in a way that makes sense. But if
- 1:34:42Speaker 4: you can find a way to just make.
- 1:34:43Speaker 5: It a.
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: One on one on one on one on one on
- 1:34:49Speaker 3: whatever you know.
- 1:34:51Speaker 4: Type of war games match where they draw for their positioning,
- 1:34:58Speaker 4: you know, as opposed as you know, trying to draw
- 1:35:00Speaker 4: strong to see what team gets the team gets the advantage. Instead,
- 1:35:06Speaker 4: you're almost doing it pseudo rumble style where you're drawing
- 1:35:10Speaker 4: in the advantages who gets to come out last, because
- 1:35:15Speaker 4: then you're the freshest person while the rest of them
- 1:35:17Speaker 4: have been in there beating the crap out of each other.
- 1:35:20Speaker 4: Where you know, it's a one on one and then
- 1:35:22Speaker 4: it turns into a triple thread, then it turns into
- 1:35:24Speaker 4: a fatal four way, and then it turns into a
- 1:35:27Speaker 4: fanatic five way or whatever the fuck you want to
- 1:35:29Speaker 4: call it. War Games, that could be very compelling, although
- 1:35:34Speaker 4: how do you know that could be a very compelling match.
- 1:35:41Speaker 3: And the type and it's just for the World Havyweight Championship.
- 1:35:45Speaker 4: That solves your war Games problem, because right now there's
- 1:35:47Speaker 4: still no War Games match that solves that makes it interesting.
- 1:36:01Speaker 4: I almost kind of want that to happen now instead
- 1:36:03Speaker 4: of just an actual winner, because that's some that's the
- 1:36:05Speaker 4: more compelling storyline, the more interesting story I think of.
- 1:36:09Speaker 7: One person who would interfere in this match that has.
- 1:36:14Speaker 4: One with both of these guys, you can think of
- 1:36:19Speaker 4: three motherfuckers that I interfere in this match.
- 1:36:21Speaker 5: I at least.
- 1:36:24Speaker 7: That's the guy who's been out for a while, who
- 1:36:28Speaker 7: lost that world title to a specific person in this match,
- 1:36:33Speaker 7: who who was defeated you know both, uh Gunther Gunther
- 1:36:42Speaker 7: has be with both these fucking guys. Both these guys
- 1:36:45Speaker 7: beat him.
- 1:36:47Speaker 3: For his title happened again, Yes, and that that's a valid.
- 1:36:58Speaker 4: And then yeah, you could assert him into the War
- 1:37:00Speaker 4: into the Wargames match and that gets you up to
- 1:37:02Speaker 4: six people potentially.
- 1:37:03Speaker 5: Yep.
- 1:37:04Speaker 7: So there's somebody right there who has fucking beef with
- 1:37:06Speaker 7: both of those guys and a good reason too, uh
- 1:37:13Speaker 7: who knows, and just have a pretty damn good solid
- 1:37:16Speaker 7: match and just get one winner and that's it.
- 1:37:20Speaker 3: I think.
- 1:37:21Speaker 7: I think if they're gonna add any matches, I could
- 1:37:24Speaker 7: see them adding Becky Lynch versus Maxine Dupre for the
- 1:37:31Speaker 7: Icy Women's I see title. I could see the White
- 1:37:33Speaker 7: Six putting their titles on the line against the m
- 1:37:37Speaker 7: f g s they're called FT.
- 1:37:41Speaker 4: Well, the Becky Vaccine think is not gonna happen because yeah,
- 1:37:46Speaker 4: Adam Pierce said that she can have her match whenever
- 1:37:48Speaker 4: she wants it, and Maxine said she's got to uh
- 1:37:53Speaker 4: get with her trainer or some friend basically before then,
- 1:37:57Speaker 4: So that could be either my theory of a returning
- 1:38:02Speaker 4: a j Lee or Doyle's theory of m m A Natty,
- 1:38:10Speaker 4: So that won't be whoever does.
- 1:38:13Speaker 6: I could definitely see me actually do pre winning and
- 1:38:16Speaker 6: taking the title off the back.
- 1:38:18Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's no, No, that's crazy.
- 1:38:26Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want the shocking, surprising, feel good, you know,
- 1:38:30Speaker 4: moment for somebody, even if she doesn't hold it for long,
- 1:38:34Speaker 4: that moment itself would still work. And then obviously Becky
- 1:38:37Speaker 4: Lynch just going ballistic over losing the title would be golden.
- 1:38:41Speaker 5: Yeah, hilarious yea, and she could go do whatever she
- 1:38:46Speaker 5: wants because she's.
- 1:38:50Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously she's gonna want the title back. But you know,
- 1:38:53Speaker 4: if it's an AJ that cost her, then obviously she's
- 1:38:55Speaker 4: got to deal with a j.
- 1:38:57Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:38:57Speaker 3: That's that sets that few Uh steph, you'd right back up,
- 1:39:02Speaker 3: mm hmm.
- 1:39:04Speaker 7: Mhm. Nice h I got nothing else, guys. The next
- 1:39:13Speaker 7: episodes are one hundredth episode, and that's the fucking main event,
- 1:39:19Speaker 7: uh post show, so little squeezing, we'll pepper and some
- 1:39:23Speaker 7: other stuff. Why not, as long as it stays four
- 1:39:27Speaker 7: fucking matches, but we'll see.
- 1:39:30Speaker 5: Yeah, thats what I'm saying. I bet you they're not
- 1:39:34Speaker 5: gonna have to cut it off.
- 1:39:35Speaker 3: Right at ten.
- 1:39:36Speaker 5: Yeah, so maybe there's a little more.
- 1:39:40Speaker 6: And you know what, I hate when, like, you know,
- 1:39:42Speaker 6: you're watching a match and you know that there's two
- 1:39:45Speaker 6: minutes left, you know, like so you know that, what
- 1:39:49Speaker 6: you know? I just like not knowing when you're right
- 1:39:52Speaker 6: up against the clock, you know, it just kind of
- 1:39:55Speaker 6: takes it a little bit of it away.
- 1:39:57Speaker 4: Four matches is also easier to fit within two hours,
- 1:40:00Speaker 4: especially if you're not if you don't have to deal
- 1:40:03Speaker 4: with commercial breaks or anything like that. Given that it's
- 1:40:05Speaker 4: on Peacock, I'm sure to be commercials hearing the match
- 1:40:11Speaker 4: if you pit them all in between matches.
- 1:40:14Speaker 6: Yeah, and they gonna have something ready to go, ready
- 1:40:20Speaker 6: to cut to when Jesse Adventure says something inappropriate.
- 1:40:23Speaker 5: Oh yeah, forgot a commercial.
- 1:40:28Speaker 3: Right a world time a match with no finish? What
- 1:40:33Speaker 3: is this bullshit?
- 1:40:34Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:40:37Speaker 7: Mm hmmm. Uh. Do you guys want to add anything else?
- 1:40:47Speaker 5: No? I don't, I don't think so.
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- 1:40:56Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The Facebook page, Yeah.
- 1:41:03Speaker 7: Yeah, got a few listeners because I had some people
- 1:41:07Speaker 7: ask me how to how do I get to your podcast?
- 1:41:11Speaker 7: I'm like, Jesus, where where do you get your music?
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- 1:41:33Speaker 7: that's all that's all I got. Man. Let's I'm tired, Dre.
- 1:41:37Speaker 7: I'm ready to go to bed. Bro, I'm done.
- 1:41:40Speaker 3: I'm out.
- 1:41:41Speaker 7: I'm ready to wrap this ship up. Ninety nine episodes
- 1:41:45Speaker 7: is long. I'm done. I'm just tired, That's what That's
- 1:41:49Speaker 7: what it feels like. This is I think it's appropriate
- 1:41:52Speaker 7: us being tired for this episode, because that's what it
- 1:41:55Speaker 7: feels like after ninety nine long, fucking episodes. It's exhausting
- 1:42:00Speaker 7: how much wrestling we took in the three of us
- 1:42:03Speaker 7: within ninety nine episodes as a lot a lot of
- 1:42:10Speaker 7: oh my god, I can never get that time back.
- 1:42:18Speaker 7: All right, let's get the fuck out of here.
- 1:42:23Speaker 5: Joe Patch, you are the world's dumbest sign up. A bit.
- 1:42:32Speaker 3: That day in and day out for.
- 1:42:34Speaker 5: Almost six years.
- 1:42:35Speaker 4: I improved everybody in the world that I am the
- 1:42:38Speaker 4: best on this microphone and in that break and give
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- 1:42:43Speaker 3: Nobody can touch me.
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- 1:43:01Speaker 12: About John three sixteen, I'll stay three sixteen.
- 1:43:05Speaker 3: Says I just whipped your ass. Well, let me tell you,
- 1:43:10Speaker 3: fucking brother.
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- 1:43:25Speaker 5: my true madness.
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- 1:43:31Speaker 7: Lately he just hasn't been Harry Housey.
- 1:43:37Speaker 2: Because I know this.
- 1:43:40Speaker 5: And I'm oh so those rotten pastes.
- 1:43:56Speaker 7: Bye bye. It's