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Super Bowl LX Picks: Drake Maye's Moment or Sam Darnold's Redemption? · Fanatically Speaking with Kent

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media, co -host and producer of the show. And
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we got the Super Bowl episode. Part one. Is that
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how we're going to call it? So we're going to
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do today. You know, this episode we're going
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to do. break down of the game, make our picks,
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talk about all the stuff that's going to go into
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the football game itself. And then later you'll
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get a fun episode about Super Bowl, everything
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that goes with Super Bowl stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
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I mean, is, is one of the rare, you know, sporting
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events specifically in America, obviously globally
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soccer is, you know, a different animal, but
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in America, everything stopped for this. Well,
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I told you. I think I told you it was the I think
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it was the I think it was the first Giants Eli
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Super Bowl win. I went to the gym like I went
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to the gym during the game. Yeah. Completely
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empty. Yes. One staff member. We had the Super
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Bowl on every single TV and I was there the entire
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time. Like everything comes to an end, man. Like
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it's it's a it's a national holiday that we don't
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get, you know. we don't get paid for it really
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is and it should be a holiday it should and it
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might it might need to be on a saturday night
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as well but that's another conversation i don't
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know maybe it's the same conversation maybe this
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is for this episode i don't know but yeah you
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know saturday night you know why why even have
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it on a sunday night but oh all right i got i
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got some hot takes we we could bring into that
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on the next side yeah i got you all right so
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let's get into the game let's get into the teams
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we know we have the Obviously the New England
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Patriots versus the Seattle Seahawks. I don't
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know what you want to get into first about it.
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There's a lot of talk about the quarterbacks.
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Because I think the defenses are both pretty
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even. We talked about this on the previous episode
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when we did like a small preview, right? And
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it was talk. We talked about the defenses and
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the numbers of the offenses as well. I think
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ultimately the game comes down to the quarterbacks
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and there's just a lot of talk about them and
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for good reason right you have a Very young Drake
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may in his second year But MVP candidate and
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then you have a Sam Darnable with his resurgence
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a former number three pick of the draft Fifth
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team he's on but he's finally playing like a
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third pick of the draft So I think quarterbacks
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are big and you've got you know I think I just
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want to get off first that the let's just start
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with the quarterbacks. Is that cool? Sure. And
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let me just start off with one of the worst takes
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that I heard. And you already know it because
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I think it was on our text chain. Cam Newton
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comparing Drake may to Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson,
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Rex Grossman. comparing them to quarterbacks
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who are not typically considered great, right?
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Some are just veteran quarterbacks that got their,
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you know, team to the Super Bowl, but had a really
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good year, things like that. I mean, we can't
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really put, I don't think we can put Drake May
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in that yet, right? Because again, it is only
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his second year. But I don't you know Correct
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me if I'm wrong and then we can throw in some
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other names in there as well for quarterbacks
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But just those names that like cam was naming
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and what his take was was that Drake may did
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not? have any input into the Patriots making
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the Super Bowl I Don't know if he was just talking
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about the playoffs Or the season or what he was
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talking about really I just know that he said
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it I did not listen to the episode that he said
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it I just know that he said and Just with that
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being out there as a quote by him You know if
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you're gonna probably be the runner -up in the
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MVP voting I would say you had a you had an input
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in your team making the Super Bowl Now just to
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compare like I said though We just said he's
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in the MVP conversation. It's really just him
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in Stafford if you want to get serious about
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it Those are the quarterbacks that name Brad
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Johnson Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, any other
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quarterback that was not a high level top named
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quarterback that made a Super Bowl with a team,
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I don't think they were ever in the MVP conversation
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in their career. And like I said, correct me
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if I'm wrong. So that's where I wanted to start,
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really just get that out of the way that that
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take to me was just not a good take. We're just
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saying stuff like we talked about before with
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media personalities and and people on TV just
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saying something for your show. Just saying a
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take to say, oh look at my hot take and I love
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Cam Newton, but I don't like his takes. I didn't
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like that take. That's not a good take. Well,
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I like Cam Newton as a player. Yes, I like what
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Cam Newton is trying to do as a sports personality.
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Um, I do not like cam Newton's outfits and I
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don't like cam Newton's podcast. I tried, I tried
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for, I tried for a legit two weeks to try to
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like the podcast cause it was getting a lot of
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buzz and I'm like, what am I missing? And it
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just, it wasn't good stuff. This take is a somewhat
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an extension of that. There's a lot of, hey,
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while everyone's zigging, I'm going to zag with
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a lot of sports takes. I've seen the, you know,
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we could explore this when it comes to like the
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Bill Belichick stuff, where it's like, come on
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guys, we all know he should have been a first
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ballot Hall of Famer based on, you know, all
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of his accolades, but we allowed the questions
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to come into play. I've seen some people try
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to zag when others are zigging on that because
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the word kind of overwhelmingly was well of course
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he should have gotten on the first try you know
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what the hell happened yeah but for for cam's
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take i think i think the difference i don't want
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to try to explain a bad take right but the first
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place i ran to wasn't Like whether or not a quarterback
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contributed to this team getting to a Super Bowl.
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Of course he did Was he the reason no name a
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team that makes it a Super Bowl that doesn't
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have a good defense You know what I mean? Like,
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it's so rare that it's, oh, this great offensive
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team, but yet they can't stop anybody on defense.
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And that shit usually comes to a head in the
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playoffs, where you beat teams that have both,
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and then they end up stifling you. You can't
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score enough points, your defense can't stop
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them, and then they ended up winning. But the
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only comparison that I want to make is for young
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quarterbacks. in which Drake may qualify. So,
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I'm looking at quarterbacks who are all under
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the age of 25, you know, to make, you know, to
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get a team to a Super Bowl. And as I'm looking
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at them, like the names aren't impressive statistical
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quarterbacks except for two. Okay. And that would
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be Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. That's pretty
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good. The rest of them are pretty good. until
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I name the rest of this list yeah but those are
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those are like really good ones right like maybe
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top two all time two of the best of all time
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correct okay so rothesburger he's like a marino
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rothesburger is good marino's good okay rothesburger
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marino uh hold on yeah but you acted like they
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were like you had like it was brady no i'm going
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i'm going for okay no just wait just wait i'll
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land the plane I'll land a plane, Roethlisberger,
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Marino, Brock Purdy, David Woodley. Who? Jared,
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Jared Goff. Hold on. Hold on. Jared Goff. Jared
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Goff, right? Okay. Drew Bledsoe. Okay. And I'm
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purposely holding back on this one. Last one.
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One Mr. Jalen Hurts. Now, now, now hold on. Now
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the only reason why I named those names in the
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order that I did, and I started off high, was
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because we could talk about Brady and Mahomes.
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I think out of everybody on that list, and I
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guess you could put Dan Marino there too, so
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let's say Brady, Mahomes, and Marino. Everybody
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else that I named on that list didn't really
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get the credit of taking that team to a Super
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Bowl either. Well, Marino was... That's the point
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I'm trying to make. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean,
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Marino, Brady, I mean, at the time, Brady was
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not carrying the team as well. But he built the
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reputation over time for a quarterback that was
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capable of doing that. But he was making throws
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and plays. Obviously, Mahomes was making plays
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to get their team there. I mean, I would argue
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Jalen Hurts did the same. Fair. But again, I'm
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talking about the credit. I'm talking about the
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credit of taking, which is what I feel like a
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lot of those guys didn't get that same credit
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the same way how Drake may is. I think it's more
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of a lack of respect for the young quarterback.
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Well, of course it is. I mean, again, the doubt
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on Drake may is going to be that he is so young
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second year again, fumble issues, but To act
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like like you said to have that take and compare
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him to the quarterbacks that I listed right that
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cam listed It's like I don't put I definitely
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don't put them in the Rex Grossman You know Trent
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Dilfer Brad Johnson category but I like that
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you brought up the under 25 guys because Out
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of that list. There's really only one name that
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I'm like. Yeah, I don't Who is that? You know
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what I mean? So, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah,
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these are these are guys. These are guys that
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you knew. But at least like these these were
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guys that like you said, like you're like Roethlisberger
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and Marino. It's like, yeah, they had great careers,
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but you never looked at them as, hey, they're
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going to take their team to a Super Bowl type
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quarterbacks as great as Marino was. You never
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saw another Super Bowl. But those that list,
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like you said, all those guys have performed
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and. Obviously different levels, you know, we
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could you can talk about that all day So Drake
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may I think is again. He's so young that to compare
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him to again these other names that cam did It's
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pretty much like you can't really compare them
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You could compare maybe to that list and just
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say here's the list of guys who've made it now
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Drake mays done it but I mean for so here's the
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thing but we but we don't we don't know what
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he you know again we don't know what Drake May
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is going to end up being we know he's having
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a good year now Mac Jones had a good year in
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New England and now and now he's a backup you
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know I mean so yeah we don't know where careers
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go I mean Jared Goff you know we didn't know
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what he was going to be even though he made a
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Super Bowl they got him out of town so they could
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win a Super Bowl yeah Yeah. And then he still,
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and then he still got out of town and he still
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played well still, and he's still balling and
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could be in the MVP conversation if they really
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wanted them, right? Uh, he's putting up good
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numbers playing well in Detroit. So yeah, like,
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you know, but like I said, to lower Drake may
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already in his second year to again, to just
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a guy like a Rex Grossman, you know, and not
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to sit here and bash Rex Grossman, but yeah,
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I mean, he is on a list of like, that you would
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not think would make a Super Bowl. Yeah. Well,
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I'll I'll I'll I'll end my point on this in terms
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of just the age. Drake May is the second youngest
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quarterback ever to play in a Super Bowl to start
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in a Super Bowl. Yeah. Behind only Dan Marino
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and he literally misses being the youngest by
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the equivalent of a month, 32 days. So it's unprecedented.
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Like what we're seeing is a, you know, a super,
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super young guy who we haven't seen a lot of,
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haven't seen a lot of tape. He hasn't, I think
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a lot of the, okay, he, you know, he's not carrying
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the team is just because he hadn't had enough
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reps. He hadn't had enough starts and he doesn't
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have enough of a resume. of highlight plays for
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like you said for us to point to and say here's
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some big plays that because you mentioned like
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Brady you're saying oh Brady made big plays in
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that Super Bowl run. We got to give Drake May
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an opportunity to do that. Yeah like he hadn't
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played in the game. No he hadn't played yet.
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Give him a chance you know so yeah that's all
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I'm saying you know it you know he'll have an
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opportunity We'll see, we'll obviously get a
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chance to see what he does, but the quarterback
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versus quarterback stuff, like I tell you, the
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quote from Meenakoms that I love, QB wins are
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not a stat. I know we want to make it about the
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quarterbacks, but I think, you know, as, as this
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episode goes on, we're going to put together
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a lot of stuff that goes into whether or not
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a team wins and lose a Superbowl and doesn't
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really have a ton to do with the quarterback.
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Like, there's a lot that goes into a Super Bowl.
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For sure. I mean, there's a lot. I mean, I do
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think, though, that it's going to be the key.
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I think it's the key in this game, the key thing.
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If not, yeah, to me it is. Like I said, there's
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a lot. There's a lot. And then we go into Sam
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Darnold. And to kind of compare, and actually
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a good take, I think it was Ryan Clark. We're
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just throwing out ESPN names today. Sure, they
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brought out that in the Super Bowl, like if Drake
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may and the Patriots lose, right? Drake may is
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still praised because he is so young. You know
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what I mean? And he's got a whole career to,
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you know, say he loses, you're like, no big deal,
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right? It's not like his career is crushed. You'll
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get back there. Maybe, you know, there's only
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one quarterback that's gotten back to the Super
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Bowl if you're losing. And that's a Mr. Jalen
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hurts. So after losing their first Super Bowl.
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Is that true? That is true, yes. I guess I never
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thought about that. Yeah, he was the first one
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to make it back to a Super Bowl after losing.
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To lose a Super Bowl and then go right back.
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To lose their first Super Bowl. The first Super
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Bowl. That they appeared in. And then he made
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it back. And he made it back and won. So boom,
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and you face everybody. But then Sam Darnold,
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you know, they were saying like, like if he wins,
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It's like obviously this it's it's a big deal
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But if he loses Is it like oh, that's Sam Darnall,
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you know what I mean, but Like I said, we've
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talked about him He's had a good year. He's had
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a good last two years I saw the question and
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we talked about this like who regrets letting
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him go the most and it was the I think it is
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the Vikings Could be because they are a good
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team the jet your trash, but yeah, Sam Darnold
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I say he does have an interception problem But
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he is balling he looks more confident Obviously
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you got to do it in now the biggest grandest
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stage of them all the Super Bowl So for him his
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his side from the Sam Darnold side it's Again,
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I think it's just the same with Drake may it's
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just don't fumble Sam Darnold it's don't throw
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picks Because you're gonna put your defense in
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a tough spot regard either way But Sam Darnold
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the knock on him is it is what it is right as
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I like to say He's earned that knock, but he's
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also earned They said the credit for being you
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know now at this at this stage The stat that
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I've brought up on Sam Darnold was We did bring
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up like the time he said he was seeing ghost
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Was against the New England Patriots. So that's
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when we say he's got to overcome that that's
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that's one of the things he's got to overcome
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This is his career versus the Patriots now mind
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you most of this was as a jet and against a You
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know pretty decent Patriot team Bill Belichick
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Patriots He's got one total touchdown 11 turnovers
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and his team scored an average five point eight
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points a game Now he's he's obviously with a
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different team he's obviously with a better team
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So that stat really doesn't come into play But
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it's still it's fun to throw out there to say
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this is what he's done against the New England
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Patriots But this is a new world. It's a new
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Patriots. He's on a new team with the Seahawks
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the only probably the only thing close to being
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the same as Josh McDaniel, right? That he's the
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he's the he's the only same thing that was probably
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there when Sam Darnold was a jet and they were
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playing, right? Yeah, yeah, I think that's yeah,
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that's a fair comparison. That's an interesting
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stat, a little, you know. faded just like you
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said, just based on his Jets tenure, you know,
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and, and this is a different, you know, it's
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a different type of Patriots team, different
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organization. Like you said, not Bill Belichick
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led. And at the same time, it's a different Seahawks
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squad. Like, like it's like the team that he
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has, you know, you know, representing, you know,
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him on defense, representing him on special teams.
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like it's a difference. It's not what he's coaching.
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He didn't even have this good of a team. Coaching.
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Coaching. Oh my goodness. I mean front office
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organizationally. He didn't have that. He didn't
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even have this in Minnesota. No. Like he didn't
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even have this for the Vikings. So like I can,
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I can give him, I can give him that. And you
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know, I, I respect a lot of things. Ryan Clark
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says a slight miss on this one for me. uh just
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because I it's the the shooting the plane down
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of someone that loses the Super Bowl, I think
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is unfair. Mm hmm. It's been a lot of really
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good quarterbacks that have made it to the Super
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Bowl and lost like and it's not like it's their
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fault that they lost. You know, like we can talk
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about like the Jake DeLone, you know, meltdowns
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and stuff like that but In most cases, it's not,
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hey, your Super Bowl team lost their Super Bowl
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attempt because of the play of their quarterback.
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Right. It's like, it's just, it's rare. So, so
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go, give it to me. What you got? Neil O'Donnell.
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Okay. Giving the Cowboys, gifting them. I mean,
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he was throwing to Larry Brown like he was a
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stealer. So, uh, he wasn't seeing ghosts. He
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was I don't know if he was colorblind on the
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uniforms or what he was doing. Yeah. Uh, or maybe
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there was a bit, I don't know. Um, I just know
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he was throwing directly to Larry Brown that
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Superbowl. So he, well, but, but here's the,
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and that that's an, that's an example. It's a
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lot of, yeah. I mean, that's one, like I said,
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normally not. You're exactly right. Well, well,
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and even, and even if you think in recent years,
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like even if you think about how bad, um, the
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chiefs played, you know, in their last Super
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Bowl. You know, the Eagles were getting at them,
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but no one was like, this is Patrick Mahomes'
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fault. It's just, it's, it's just not what, what
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we do. It was the, it was the other team was
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so good. It was the, when the Seahawks beat the
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Broncos, right? Wasn't, oh, Peyton Manning's
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terrible. It was, that defense was amazing. Right.
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Yeah. So, so let's do this. And I'm just going
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to do this real quick because the one thing that
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I wanted, I feel like Sam Darnold was drafted.
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in a quarterback class that was pretty well respected.
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And so I'm looking at, I'm just looking at NFL
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draft classes since 2019. And this is just first
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rounders. I'm just going to rattle off some names
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real quick. Kyle Murray, Daniel Jones, Dwayne
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Haskins, 2019, 2020, Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Jordan
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Love, 21, Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson. Trey
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Lance, Justin Fields, Mack Jones, 2022 Kenny
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Pickett, 2023, Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Anthony
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Richardson, and then last year's draft. This
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is all first round, by the way. First round,
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Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Michael
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Pennings Jr., JJ McCarthy, Bonix. So if you're
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looking at like Sam Darnold, is as good if not
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better than all those names I just listed dude.
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I would say yeah for the majority of them yeah.
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Yeah I mean like it like you if you're taking
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like just think about those names and I mean
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like like now I mean even you can say we can
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say okay maybe out of that bunch what you could
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have a fistfight between Joe Burrow and Trevor
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Lawrence is who's the best guys that I just named
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there but at the same time who would you right
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now Who would you rather have? If you had a team
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that was stacked, you've seen what Sam Darnold's
23:50
able to do. I don't know if you take Trevor Lawrence
23:53
over him, because you've seen him struggle too.
23:54
No, I wouldn't take Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow just
23:57
got injured walking to his car just now this
23:59
morning. He did. That's what he does. I'd still
24:01
take Joe Burrow, but. OK, hold on. You could
24:05
you could take Joe Burrow. And if that leaves
24:07
me Sam Darnold. I'm not mad at you for taking
24:10
Joe Burrow. Because I don't even know Joe Burrow.
24:13
I mean, we've seen him play what, one full season?
24:15
I mean, I think at this point in their career,
24:19
Trevor Lawrence and Sam Darnold's toss up. And
24:24
there you go. We saw all and obviously a lot
24:27
of Trevor Lawrence stuff was hype and you know,
24:30
clearly organizationally, you know, they've I
24:32
mean, but they've and he's had some injuries
24:34
and a lot of those guys are like you said, they're
24:35
super young. They just got drafted, but you can
24:38
see you can see a definitely a an upside to some
24:41
of those guys. I would say on the on the take
24:44
right there when I look at the two quarterbacks
24:47
win or lose, I honestly don't think I think it's
24:52
been an accomplishment for both guys. as when
24:56
you look and say, I don't think either one's
25:00
hurt by losing or win, you know what I mean?
25:02
Like losing the Super Bowl. It's such a great
25:05
story for Sam Darnold. No one ever thought he'd
25:08
be here, and he's here. Drake May's already here,
25:12
again, at a young age. So I think it's an accomplishment
25:15
for both to make the Super Bowl. I don't think
25:18
they're hurt by losing it because... I mean,
25:22
let's, let's be real. No one, no one came into
25:24
the season thinking Seahawk Patriots, Sam Dornal,
25:27
Drake, May Superbowl. Well, yeah. And I think
25:32
we discussed this throughout all of our football
25:35
episodes. We, when we kind of did our preseason
25:39
picks, it was Chiefs, it was Eagles, it was Bills,
25:42
it was Ravens. It was teams that have top tier
25:48
quarterback play. that was where we went and
25:51
boy and boy did the league blind side us this
25:53
year. So, you know, it just, it goes to show
25:56
you that it's not just about the quarterback
25:58
play. Now, obviously there's outliers. All the
26:01
chiefs do with Patrick Mahomes is make it a super
26:03
bowls. So what they're good at, you know, but
26:05
they've also had all the other pieces too. And
26:08
then you throw a great quarterback on top of
26:11
it. And then the cherry on top is a hall of fame
26:13
tight end and you know, in Travis Kelsey. So
26:16
You know, sometimes things are just going to
26:18
happen like that, but this year is going to be
26:21
a legitimate Super Bowl. And I don't want people
26:23
to try to dismiss it just because it doesn't
26:24
have the flashy names and the, you know, the
26:27
prestige, well -beloved franchises that we want
26:30
to see. Like this is, this is going to be a good
26:33
matchup. And you know, we'll, I guess we'll kind
26:35
of see how things play out. Like, is it, is the
26:43
moment so big? that where it takes place doesn't
26:46
matter as far as just like it like it be like
26:52
it being in san francisco like it being there
26:55
you know in the 49ers building i mean i think
27:01
it has a small you know it might have a small
27:06
effect on the game just Like I said, I think
27:10
there's probably a little bit of it's very little
27:12
motivation for Seattle to say hey We win this
27:15
Super Bowl and we're gonna do it on the 49ers
27:17
field You know, that's just a little extra bragging
27:21
rights really Yeah, otherwise, I don't really
27:25
think it matters I mean because fans you're not
27:28
like you're gonna get a bunch of 49er fans. They're
27:30
booing Seattle you're gonna get you know Seattle
27:33
fans and Patriot fans who? emptied out their
27:37
401k so they could go to the Super Bowl, you
27:40
know what I mean? Because again, I don't know
27:43
who these people are who can afford to go to
27:45
a Super Bowl. But yeah, so I don't think that
27:49
matters, especially when they talk about, oh,
27:51
well, you know, they get to play in their home,
27:52
you know, their home stadium or home field, and
27:55
it's only happened, like, was it a couple of
27:57
times, I think? So I don't think that matters
28:00
either, again. I mean, I guess it does, but it
28:04
doesn't. I mean, you get to play in the field
28:05
in the stadium that you normally play in, so
28:08
that you'd have an advantage. But yeah, playing,
28:11
I think Seattle, if anything, has probably a
28:14
little advantage because they do play there as
28:17
part of their regular season, right? So they've
28:20
already played there. They already know the stadium.
28:24
Some of the players who've been there multiple
28:26
years or... you know, they obviously play every
28:28
season in San Francisco. So I think that would
28:31
be an advantage for them. Yeah. And I was, that's
28:35
where I was going to go. Um, you know, the Seahawks
28:39
fans and I mean, I felt like if you live in Seattle,
28:42
you rich. So, so maybe it'd be nothing for them
28:44
to afford the trip, the tickets and you know,
28:49
the travel it, you know, so that, that is an
28:52
advantage of playing in that building consistently.
28:56
And I mean, I mean, we saw the slugfest that
28:59
it was throughout that entire division, you know,
29:02
all season, you know, you know, even with their
29:04
game with the Rams, but so yeah, it was to me,
29:08
it was kind of one of those extra things where
29:10
it's like, Hey, that's an advantage that they
29:12
have. They don't have to travel that far. Even
29:15
though teams get there, you know, they kind of
29:17
try to get acclimated. There's all the Superbowl
29:19
hype preview walkthrough stuff, but I do think
29:24
that is kind of a notch in Seattle's belt. But
29:28
for the Patriots to travel across the country
29:33
and then have to play them in California, it's
29:41
going to be to be that far away from home. And
29:45
I know it's a business trip. I do think it'll
29:48
be more, I think it's more of a detriment than
29:50
what players actually want to admit. and the
29:54
Super Bowl itself is a it's a production like
29:58
it's a it's a made for TV spectacle and it was
30:01
something you said about like having it on Saturday.
30:04
Yes. The thing is is if you do it on Saturday,
30:07
you're missing out on a day's worth of Super
30:09
Bowl stuff that you can make tons of money off
30:11
of. Okay. And and then everything that takes
30:14
You know what I mean? Just events, parties, all
30:19
the media stuff, all the TV shows. But then even
30:23
on Sunday, I mean, you know what it's like for
30:26
a Super Bowl Sunday, man. You wake up first thing
30:29
and your entire day is centered around the Super
30:32
Bowl. You have Super Bowl coverage on the entire
30:36
day, just waiting on the game to come on. Pre
30:38
-game shows, prediction shows. all the first
30:43
takes and all the, all the, the talking sports
30:47
heads, everybody's live on television, just filling
30:49
gaps of time, running all the super bowl ads
30:52
and all the commercials and everything. And then
30:54
the game starts. So it's got a lot that goes
30:56
into it. And I don't see, I don't see the league
31:01
like making a shift on it to make it easier on
31:03
anybody. It's like, no, we're going to get this
31:05
money. It's all here. People are willing to pay
31:07
for it. These sponsors are throwing these millions
31:09
at us. We'd be dumb not to stuff it in our pockets.
31:12
well that's for sure yeah they're definitely
31:15
gonna make their money yeah okay so location
31:20
matters it does i think it matters yeah i mean
31:24
they'll get there prepared i think you know again
31:27
clear weather will be obviously we are grateful
31:32
for that after watching the snow games ice games
31:35
whatever you want to call them uh so that'll
31:38
be a that'll be a relief Uh, let's see here.
31:42
Yeah. So, uh, what else? We won't be like defense,
31:46
offense, anything coaching stands out from, for
31:53
me, I think like across the board. So we, okay,
31:58
so we'll just go defense. I don't have a ton
32:01
on it. I think the defenses are as, as evenly
32:04
matched as they can be. The only benefit is that
32:08
Seattle gets more turnover statistically. They
32:13
force more turnovers. And then on the flip side,
32:17
you've got New England, great solid foundational
32:21
defense. They don't generate a lot of turnovers.
32:25
but they're going against a team whose quarterback
32:28
has given away a lot of turnovers. So it's an
32:32
interesting kind of yin and yang where it's like
32:35
Drake May done turned its ball over a ton, but
32:38
the Seahawks are really good at capitalizing
32:40
on that. And then on the other, Darnold it's
32:43
one of his been one of his shortcomings at least
32:46
early in the season. He got a little better at
32:48
it He did but you know, just just I mean fumbles
32:51
and interceptions like yes, it's hard It's hard
32:54
to overcome and his team has been able to do
32:56
that So I think that's where it's a nice healthy
32:58
like balance and mix And to like you said the
33:02
question is whether or not he actually like melts
33:04
down whether or not the moment's too big for
33:07
him and he just yeah What's the dude? Oh my god
33:12
I think it's Nathan Peterman. Oh god. If he turns
33:15
into Peterman, it just has seven, eight turnovers
33:18
in a game. Let's hope. Let's hope he's not him.
33:21
Maybe the worst quarterback that's ever stepped
33:23
on a football NFL field. It is magical, man.
33:26
If you've, if you, if you ever need a laugh,
33:28
if you ever feeling terrible, go back and watch
33:30
like the Nathan Peterman turnover, the ball highlights,
33:34
unbelievable stuff. Hey, credit to him. He made
33:36
the league. Um, but if we're again, we're talking
33:38
about guys in the league and he's probably been
33:40
one of the worst. Uh, but yeah, yeah, you're
33:44
exactly right. We talked about that before. It's
33:46
a, it's a very evenly when you look at, like
33:49
I said, defense, like you said, just one Seattle
33:52
gets turnovers more. Uh, but you know, it's yeah,
33:56
it's like, which one's going to give which, which
34:00
dams going to break and leak water, right? Which
34:02
defense is gonna, or which quarterback, you know,
34:05
the, which team is going to turn the ball over
34:08
and which, you know, it is really so even. And
34:13
then if you just flip to the offense, that's
34:15
kind of a combination with the defense, right?
34:17
I think the offenses are really even as well.
34:20
Both can run the ball, obviously pretty good
34:23
quarterback play. Receivers, I give the edge
34:28
to Seattle. But at the same time, I mean, Josh
34:35
McDaniels. is probably the better play caller.
34:38
So if we're getting into coaching as well, again,
34:40
variable McDaniels have been there, whether as
34:43
a player or as a coach, they've been here. So,
34:47
you know, we can talk about offense defense.
34:49
I think we're pretty even on that, correct? Yes.
34:52
Yeah, we've talked about that. The turnover is
34:54
going to be big, whatever, you know, I think
34:56
special teams, I would say, you know, Seattle's
34:59
got the edge with Shahid. But outside of that
35:05
then you get into coaching I give the edge to
35:07
New England because again They've been there.
35:10
They know they've been to the Super Bowl. They
35:12
know this coaching staff again has been under
35:16
I guess we can call him. Maybe he's gonna be
35:19
a second ballot Hall of Famer bill check, but
35:23
but again, they coached on our played under them
35:25
either way this staff they know they got a you
35:29
know, I said, I don't know every player that
35:31
played in the Super Bowl but I know Milton Williams
35:34
just won a Superbowl. So just his play on defense
35:37
and his leadership to help, you know, prepare
35:41
the younger guys for it. I think it's going to
35:43
be key in this game as well. Yeah. The, the coaching
35:49
aspect of things is different in a Superbowl
35:55
because the every, to me, everything moves slower.
36:00
It is super, but we talked about the long halftime
36:03
for the halftime show and all that. It gives
36:05
you an opportunity to really just slow things
36:07
down, look at a lot of tape, review a lot of
36:10
things, go over schemes. And the other thing
36:15
that I think a lot of people kind of dismiss
36:19
is... like in football, it's pretty well known.
36:24
It's called like the first 15, which is where
36:27
like the first 15 plays of a game for each side
36:30
are pretty scripted. Here are the first 15 plays
36:32
we're gonna run, then we'll adjust as the game
36:36
goes on. Halftime gives you an opportunity to
36:40
have a different measure of that, where you can
36:43
shift your perspective and have a set of plays
36:45
that you're gonna introduce to half. I mean,
36:47
we've talked about like the onside kick stuff
36:49
with Sean Payton. There's all types of, hey,
36:53
here's what we're going to do now, that kind
36:57
of changes the trajectory of how a Super Bowl
37:00
can go. A lot more thought, because the moment
37:03
is so big. I haven't seen a ton from these coaches
37:07
for me to have, for me to lean one way or another,
37:10
but... All I have to go off of is what they've
37:13
done so far this year. I like what both of them
37:15
have done so far this year. And I think it's
37:18
fair to say for both of us that neither of us
37:20
would be surprised if either team won. So it's
37:23
a super balanced Super Bowl, which makes a good
37:28
viewing experience for me. Hopefully it's back
37:30
and forth and it's not like a 17 -3 type game.
37:34
Hopefully both of them can score more points.
37:41
They should I mean obviously they as good as
37:44
defense as They are we've seen both give up points,
37:48
right? I mean Seattle just gave up 27 to the
37:51
Rams a really good offense you know what I mean,
37:54
but at home and Maybe could have given up more
37:57
right, but their defense held Yeah, I think like
38:02
you said I You know coaches staffs equal but
38:05
at the same time like I just give that little
38:07
slight edge to New England only because again
38:09
They've been there played in it. They know the
38:12
they know the magnitude, the magnitude of the
38:16
game and how to manage it and how to prepare
38:18
for it. Yeah, I think like you mentioned, coming
38:21
out of halftime, we've seen those big plays,
38:23
big returns or like you said, onto a kick, something
38:26
like that. I think that will be key in this game.
38:28
So if just say, you know, Seattle is going to
38:33
be getting the ball in the second half. If I'm
38:36
New England, there's no way I kick the ball to
38:41
You know She he if he's out there returning kicks
38:44
I'm not gonna allow them to get that kind of
38:47
you know, I'll just say well, we'll take the
38:49
touchback, right? There's gonna be things like
38:52
that that they you know, special teams I think
38:54
will play a big key in this game. I Think again,
38:58
I think quarterback play too. I think everything
39:00
else is kind of just right there. It's just turnovers
39:05
which is a part of quarterback play, but I mean,
39:07
it could be running backs, right? Fumbles, things
39:08
like that with the, you know, anybody, anybody.
39:11
So I think they're pretty even there. I just
39:15
think what's going to happen. I think it's going
39:18
to take a play like that. It's going to take
39:19
a big special teams play or the what quarterback
39:24
makes that one mistake. And you mentioned though
39:28
about the teams and the season. I have to bring
39:32
this up. So we talk about the Patriots and we
39:36
talk about paths to the Super Bowl and Again,
39:39
it's the NFL. I don't care who you play right?
39:42
You still got to win the games You still got
39:44
to make it and we talked about that easier path
39:47
in the playoffs and some could argue the Seahawks
39:49
had the easier path But they earned it with that
39:52
one seed the Patriots had to play some tough
39:54
defenses here They go again gonna have to play
39:56
another tough defense But they're they're just
40:00
as good on their defense. So here's who the Patriots
40:03
beat this year Don't know if you've seen this
40:06
I'm not gonna go week to week But they out of
40:10
their 18 week season. Well, obviously one week
40:12
was a bye 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 games they played
40:21
against a team and this could be twice against
40:23
the team by the way They played a team that fired
40:26
their head coach or fired a coach Okay one week
40:33
and this must be the Steeler game. Coach retired.
40:39
They had three games against the NFC South. So
40:43
this graphic, the stat was just saying the NFC
40:45
South is poop. Two games against the Jets and
40:52
we know what that means. And then they had a
40:55
game against the Bengals. And of course playoffs
40:58
they played. We talked about the Chargers, the
41:00
Texans. and then, of course, a backup quarterback
41:03
in the conference championship. Again, I don't
41:08
put a lot of thought into it. I just want to
41:09
put it out here as a talking point because, you
41:13
know, it's out there. I want to compare it because
41:18
I want to say, okay, who do I think is more prepared
41:21
to play a really tough game? Right? Yeah. Yeah.
41:26
Who's more battle tested? And I'm going to look
41:28
at Seattle's. And of course, we already know,
41:31
I think you get the edge. Like you said, they
41:33
played, they played probably the best division
41:35
in football, the best division in all of the
41:38
league. Yes. And then on top, they had three,
41:40
they had three playoff teams that, and one of
41:43
them was totally debilitated from injuries and
41:47
still ended up winning a game. Like, like it,
41:50
yeah, like toughest, the toughest division in
41:53
all of NFL football. I want them to throw out
41:55
a few more games that they played during the
41:57
season. So we know they played their, their division.
41:59
They had to go to Pittsburgh and play and they
42:03
won and that's a playoff game. I mean a playoff
42:06
team. They also played in NFC South Tampa Bay
42:12
Jacksonville. They had to go to Jacksonville
42:14
and they won that game Jacksonville a playoff
42:16
team. So they had a couple other games Panthers
42:24
a playoff team. So they had OK. three extra games
42:29
against playoff teams. Okay. Well, four, no,
42:34
three. Yeah. Three. So outside of their division
42:37
and again, every game I think is, you know, there's
42:41
some other games in here mixed around with teams
42:43
that were decent during the season. Uh, you know,
42:47
when you look at like a, the Vikings were decent.
42:50
just depending on who their quarterback was that
42:52
day. The Falcons were decent, the Colts were
42:54
decent, the Buccaneers decent. So I would argue
42:59
the Seahawks obviously played a tougher schedule
43:03
this year than the New England Patriots. Yeah,
43:07
and it doesn't... To me, it doesn't mean... It
43:16
doesn't mean a ton. No. To me, but... And I understand
43:21
like why people want to bring it up. I think
43:24
a lot of this is meant to just kind of shift
43:26
the conversation just to give you different things
43:29
to talk about. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to
43:32
go out and win 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 football games.
43:37
It's like it's hard. I don't care. I don't care
43:39
if you are just playing the Jets and we could
43:42
say we can say whatever you want when it comes
43:46
to, you know, The path that a team takes to get
43:50
to You know a Super Bowl or makes a deep a deep
43:54
playoff run the Patriots played in that shitty
43:57
division forever the entire time of Tom Brady
44:00
senior And he had to go to the Super Bowl and
44:03
beat tough teams. You just you can only fight
44:05
who's on your schedule, man Yeah, yeah, it's
44:10
not it's not their fault and you know, we can
44:13
you know the Patriots schedule was what it was.
44:18
And you can, I think, and I know you didn't come
44:21
up with the, like the, the graphic or the point
44:23
in terms of, you know, the teams that they played
44:26
who lost their coaches, but we're talking, we're
44:28
looking at their wins. Like, I mean, they, they
44:30
beat the Ravens to beat the Ravens when Lamar
44:34
Jackson was there early in the year. Like they
44:36
won that game, you know, played a close game
44:38
against, you know, Josh Allen, Buffalo division
44:41
opponent tough, you know, Cincinnati. you know,
44:44
they ended up beating them. You can say whatever
44:46
you want to about Cincinnati, but really good
44:49
offense, really good offense. You know, they
44:52
beat Tampa Bay, they beat the Bucks and they
44:56
were a team that tied with a record to make it
44:58
to the playoffs and just didn't just based on
45:00
the technicality. They just didn't get in, you
45:03
know, so they're, you know, play Buffalo again,
45:06
beat them, you know, came here, you know, to
45:09
Charlotte, you know, beat the Panthers, a playoff
45:11
team like There's things that happen and I want
45:18
to give them the credit for doing what they did
45:21
all year. It's hard to be consistent. And I want
45:26
to see them have an opportunity to kind of make
45:31
their own name post Belichick and Brady. But
45:36
I mean, we'll have to see how that goes. We'll
45:40
have to see. I don't know. Yeah, we'll have to
45:43
see how that plays out. But I like their chances,
45:46
man. I like an evenly matched Super Bowl. We
45:52
weren't even doing the podcast at this time,
45:54
but I knew that the Eagles were going to romp
45:56
the Chiefs last year. I was saying it for weeks.
46:01
I knew it was going to happen, and everyone was
46:04
shocked by the destruction except for me. I knew
46:06
that shit was happening. You did call it. Yeah.
46:09
And I'm going to call this one too. But you tell
46:14
me when you're ready to go for the picks. I think
46:16
we're at that point. I think we've looked at
46:19
every avenue of this game. So it's time to make
46:25
our picks for Super Bowl 60. Do you want to flip
46:29
a coin and see who goes first? It doesn't matter.
46:33
I don't care. Okay. I told you from, from when
46:36
we started talking about it and we knew what
46:37
the matchup was that for me, it wasn't closed.
46:39
It took no thought. Yeah, you did. Do you do
46:43
is your pick similar or, or did it take some
46:46
waffling back and forth? Like weighing of the
46:48
scales, tipping of the scales. So, so I'm a,
46:51
I'm a person who, you know, it's like, what's
46:54
my first instinct? What's my first thought? What's
46:56
my gut? Okay. And then, and then I start, then
47:00
I look at it and I can say that you start over
47:02
analyzing. Then I overanalyze and I say, okay,
47:04
am I still going to stick with my gut? You know
47:07
what I mean? So, okay. Yeah. All right. That's
47:09
how I, that's how I would say it. I didn't think
47:11
it was that easy, but I did have a gut feeling
47:14
and my, my thoughts, my thoughts aren't that
47:18
far off from yours. I had a, I have a, I had
47:21
a gut feeling. I liked what I, what I watched.
47:25
I know what I saw and To me, one of these teams
47:31
is clearly a Super Bowl champion and the other
47:35
one isn't. And it has to do with the way their
47:39
season played out, the way everything went for
47:42
them, all the shit that was talked about them,
47:46
all the highs and the lows, all the mistakes,
47:49
all the lucky breaks that they got. Yeah, right.
47:53
The Seattle Seahawks are winning this Super Bowl
47:55
easily, dude. It's gonna be so easy. Like, and
48:00
I set it up a little bit the last time we did
48:03
an episode where I was like, hey man, if a team
48:05
goes up by double digits and they start pouring
48:07
it on, it's over. I see the Seahawks doing that,
48:11
man. Like, I don't think New England is gonna
48:14
be able to keep up. And one of the things, and
48:18
I know I just, I said a lot, but when I mentioned
48:21
just like the luck aspect of things, I want you
48:25
to think about the last time you saw a unsportsmanlike
48:29
conduct penalty called in a massive televised
48:35
game that gives the opposing team the ball back.
48:40
Not only do you give them the ball and the first
48:43
down on the very next play, not only do they
48:47
score, but they scored a touchdown on the guy
48:51
that had the penalty called on. and still overcame
48:55
it to win the game. Yeah. They do. Give me the
48:58
Seattle Seahawks. Yeah. Um, like I said, very,
49:02
very, very balanced Superbowl, very evenly matched.
49:06
Uh, but again, my, my, yeah, my gut, my first
49:09
instinct was that it's going to be the Seattle
49:13
Seahawks. It's going to be, you know, I have
49:18
Sam Dornan has earned my trust. He is going to
49:23
show out He went to he went to USC this games
49:27
in California. They noticed that the connection
49:29
Everything man. I just think I think you know,
49:33
if you look back at that ASC championship I mean
49:36
there's an argument made if if Bo Nicks played
49:38
in that game You know who would have won that
49:40
game? Yeah, I think I think Sam Darnold I think
49:46
the Seattle Seahawks are gonna win even like
49:49
I just think it's going that I think they have
49:51
a little more Power right a little more superpowers
49:56
a little more weapons to use whether that be
50:00
offensively defensively I don't think the moment's
50:04
going to be too big for Sam Darnold. He He has
50:08
showed that he can play he has showed in the
50:10
big in the playoffs this season That he can ball
50:14
out And I think he's going to continue that.
50:18
So now I'll go away. No, go ahead. Yeah, that's
50:22
all I have on the picks. I just didn't know if
50:24
you had a thought on an MVP. Well, we'll know.
50:28
So to backtrack really quick there. Shout out
50:33
Kenny. What's up, Kenny? Kenny when true. When
50:38
Kenny the Truth is part of our group chats, we
50:41
go back and forth. Occasionally we'll talk about,
50:44
you know, some boxing or some MMA or something.
50:46
And for years, I would make a pick. He would
50:49
ask me, hey man, who do you think is going to
50:50
win this fight? And I would always say, my picks
50:54
are very easy when it comes to fights. If it's
50:57
like win or lose, it's easy. I always just go
51:00
with who I deem is the better fighter, male or
51:04
female. This this is a better fighter than this
51:07
one. I would bet my money here Yeah, why would
51:10
I bet my money on someone that I thought was
51:12
a lesser opponent? I think the Seahawks are just
51:16
a better team Yeah, for all the reasons that
51:18
we've stated Darnold's been through the gauntlet
51:21
and survived it He's been outcast by by literal
51:25
franchise to say dude. You're not good enough
51:26
to make it here I told you that locker room has
51:30
wrapped their arms around him They would go out
51:32
when he would go out and have those those huge
51:34
turnover games Yeah. That locker room didn't
51:37
turn on him. They knew what they had. They knew
51:41
that that defense was stout. They knew that their
51:43
skill position players were great. And they were
51:46
like, no, no, no, we're going to uplift this
51:47
dude. He going to carry us. We're going to carry
51:50
him. He has a bad game. We're going to go out
51:52
there and do what we can to win the game. That's
51:54
a football team. And if the Patriots get rattled,
51:58
they haven't experienced a lot of that all year.
52:02
I see them faltering. or I see the Seahawks being
52:06
able to hold themselves up high enough to hang
52:09
on and win the game. So yeah, I had no idea you
52:13
were gonna go with them too, but part of me wanted
52:16
you to go with New England just so that we had
52:18
some betting on the table, but I'll take this.
52:21
I almost did, but yeah, I'm not, I have to go
52:24
with, like I said, my initial gut, my initial
52:27
instinct. And again, we're all about stories.
52:32
It's all about moments, right? And this is going
52:34
to be this is going to be Sam Donald's moment
52:36
and he'll get the MVP. They will win the Super
52:39
Bowl and he will. Exercise the demons. Do you
52:49
think just real quick one more thing? Do you
52:53
think a Super Bowl win? Cloaks his. I don't want
53:02
to say inconsistencies. I guess to say, do you
53:06
think that couches a lot of the negative talk
53:08
about Donald for him to be able to win a Super
53:10
Bowl? Well, yeah, I mean, I think. Think about.
53:17
Yeah, it'll it'll it'll it'll shut that up and
53:21
it'll push the blame more to the franchise as
53:23
he played for and the coaching staff and the
53:26
like we talked about. I mean, he started his
53:28
career with the Jets and the Panthers. If that
53:31
tells you anything and the Panthers are trying
53:34
to shift that, uh, the Vikings, you know, he
53:37
was a backup in San Francisco and obviously they're
53:40
a great organization and coaching staff. The
53:43
Vikings just fired their general manager because
53:44
they're like, uh, dude, you let this guy go.
53:47
Now he's in the Superbowl. So, you know, I think
53:51
they have, but, but yeah, I think that's, you
53:53
know, does Sam Darno become one of the greatest
53:55
quarterbacks ever? I don't know. Right. But will
53:58
it matter if he's got that Superbowl? It won't.
54:00
Cause he'll always have that and he can, and
54:03
he can just have that in his pocket forever.
54:06
Uh, and if he wins the MVP again, he'll have
54:08
that too. And you know, that's all he really
54:11
needs made. And he seems like, uh, you know,
54:13
he's a pretty level headed guy and however it
54:16
goes, it'll go. But, uh, you know, it goes to
54:19
show you a lot of times again, it takes everything
54:23
to be successful in the league, right? Coaching
54:27
staff team. court of everything's got to come
54:30
together and drafting while developing players.
54:34
Yeah. Yeah. Like you know what I mean? Like it
54:35
just shows you that you can have talent and just
54:38
be in a bad spot and you will not succeed in
54:41
that spot because you don't have the coaching.
54:45
You don't have the talent around you. You don't
54:47
have the management on this on that in that franchise
54:50
and I think Sam Donald is definitely an example
54:54
of that right now. I'm not gonna make this Eagles
54:57
centric. I Want to believe what you're saying
55:01
is true, but I don't because I saw I see I've
55:05
seen Jalen hurts light it up through playoff
55:09
Appearances make it to Super Bowls and even in
55:12
losing efforts when he's been balling out Yeah,
55:14
and even in winning efforts when he ball out
55:16
He hits a rough patch and the media can't wait
55:20
to jump on his ass. He doesn't even talk a lot.
55:22
Yeah Like, so I can see Darno coming out. I can
55:27
see them winning the Super Bowl. Darno coming
55:30
out having a lackluster start to the season and
55:32
people bash him. I can see it. Like, I can absolutely
55:36
see it happening. I don't condone it. And I don't
55:39
think it's right. But I can see these assholes
55:42
doing that for sure. Yeah, no, no, no. No, he's
55:45
going to still get the, you know, that's just
55:47
what the world we live in, like we used to talk
55:50
about, man. People wait for you to fail. so they
55:52
cannot wait to rip you apart yeah and I mean
55:55
I mean we obviously you know do a podcast where
55:58
we talk about this stuff but I'm not sitting
56:00
here like chomping at the bits to like I wasn't
56:03
rooting for Sam Darnold to fail this year all
56:05
season my take was well he's got to prove it
56:08
That's all I ever say true. That's all I ever
56:10
say It's just just prove me wrong and and show
56:13
me different than what I've seen in the past
56:15
and what you've done So I can't trust you and
56:18
I can't pick you until I trust you and today's
56:20
episode Obviously, I just said the words right
56:23
he has earned my trust. He is on my dick I'm
56:26
picking him to win the Super Bowl and a Super
56:28
Bowl MVP. He's going to Disney World He better
56:33
know listen he better he's gonna be in that parade
56:35
with Mickey man Yeah, and as a thing the crazy
56:39
thing is I've watched a lot of football man I've
56:41
seen a lot of like the postgame press conference
56:43
stuff I don't know what Sam Donald's voice sounds
56:44
like and and to have him front and center, you
56:48
know front and center Super Bowl MVP. That would
56:51
be cool. And it would be like the ultimate middle
56:54
finger to previous franchises that didn't give
56:57
him the support and the attention that he needed
56:59
to succeed and decided to cast him off to go
57:03
other routes. And you know, the only, the only
57:06
other teams that we've seen that have had, you
57:08
know, mass success after letting him go with
57:10
San Francisco. But I mean, they're a system,
57:14
man. They are a system and that system worked
57:17
for him. the, you know, in Minnesota and here,
57:20
obviously here in Seattle. So kudos to him, man.
57:23
Yeah. I think he's, I said, we're going to wrap
57:25
it up. I just think he's think about the moment.
57:28
I talk about the stories, right? And maybe I'm
57:30
just, uh, I'm just thinking that I'm hoping for
57:32
this story, right? Think about when Steve young
57:35
won that super bowl, right? He had to get that.
57:38
As they said, the monkey off his back, like he
57:40
couldn't win it with, you know, Montana was the
57:42
guy he couldn't win it and he won it. And it
57:44
was like, it's his time, right? even Jalen Hurts
57:48
last year it was like dude just proved everybody
57:50
wrong of course like you said they just forget
57:53
about it this season anytime he does anything
57:55
uh yeah four months passes by and it's like is
57:58
Jalen Hurts gonna get better again to his to
58:01
his uh you know again he's so young though that's
58:03
why he's got so much time left to play Steve
58:05
Young was about done really uh he had a few more
58:09
years left in the tank but Peyton Manning when
58:12
he finally got there finally won the Super Bowl
58:15
right uh those are bigger stars but those are
58:18
the stories you look at and you say this guy
58:22
did it he overcame this he proved doubters wrong
58:25
he finally got that you know moment and i and
58:29
i just i just really think that it's going to
58:31
be sam darnell that gets his moment yeah and
58:35
i and i hope and i hope he does and you know
58:38
and if the patriots win i'm not gonna the only
58:39
reason i'd be upset that they won is because
58:41
i didn't pick them But other than that, no, I
58:45
just see Seattle winning it. They're the better
58:47
team to me. All I'm going to do is, you mentioned
58:50
Kenny, the truth. I know he's going to have his
58:54
Sam Darnold jersey on. Even though he's a Cowboys
58:56
fan, he's going to be wearing his Sam Darnold
59:00
jersey. uh watching the super bowl he might even
59:03
have a red wig on watching it too i don't know
59:07
but he has been sam darnold's number one fan
59:11
this season because yes i'm going to take another
59:14
shot at you his quarterbacking team just can't
59:17
make it that far I'm gonna leave all this in,
59:25
too. Yes. No, no, it's okay. No, he signed up
59:28
for it. He know what that group chat looked like.
59:30
Hey, when you back the star, this is what you
59:33
get. Yeah, yeah, you gonna get it. Hate, hate,
59:37
hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. But no, that's
59:40
all I got, man. Easy, easy picks for me, sounds
59:42
like. It took you some, you did some sports math,
59:46
but you know, I, you know, yeah, it's a big pick.
59:50
And I understand your angle on it, giving it
59:53
the pause. But hey, hey, hey, yeah, man, I'll
1:00:03
see Hawks across the board. We'll see how the
1:00:06
game plays out, man. I feel good about my pick.
1:00:08
Yep. Can't wait to wrap. Yeah. And yeah, that's
1:00:12
it. Oh, yeah. That's another episode. Yeah. All
1:00:18
right, that's another episode of fanatically
1:00:20
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1:00:41
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1:01:04
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1:01:12
But yeah, man, we're everywhere. Like you said,
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1:01:17
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you say social. I mean we're air I mean, it's
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social media stuff that I don't know about I
1:01:49
mean, I mean, we're just not on X Yeah, but but
1:01:53
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want to be there with all the bots either We're
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right all right this is off the rails all right
1:02:14
all right let's wrap it up that's a wrap let's
1:02:16
wrap all right oh