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Ep. 291 - How to Live an Undistracted Life · The Living Waters Podcast

• 1:04
  Emeal Zwayne: We use a line oftentimes you definitely won't regret that, you definitely wouldn't regret it.
• 1:09
  Emeal Zwayne: If you do this, I assure you you're not gonna regret it, right?
• 1:11
  Emeal Zwayne: But I put that against the backdrop of eternity.
• 1:16
  Emeal Zwayne: You think of all the things that we will likely regret having done in life.
• 1:22
  Emeal Zwayne: You could say, yeah, you may regret that, but this you definitely won't Like.
• 1:26
  Emeal Zwayne: What kind of regret would we have if we truly did set our face as a flint, if we truly did live without distraction, if we truly did love and give and serve?
• 1:34
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean regret.
• 1:37
  Emeal Zwayne: There's going to be abundance of joy when we stand before the Lord 2 Corinthians 5, and give account for our lives.
• 1:45
  Emeal Zwayne: And Paul says in that context you know that, whether present or absent, that we may be well-pleasing to him.
• 1:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Name that name, that name, that name.
• 1:59
  Ray Comfort: that sound I'd say that's a cell phone that doesn't work.
• 2:06
  Ray Comfort: Hey, utter silence.
• 2:07
  Ray Comfort: It's a phone that doesn't work.
• 2:08
  Ray Comfort: Utter silence.
• 2:08
  Emeal Zwayne: There we go, I hit the wrong button Name that sound.
• 2:16
  Oscar Navarro: And utter silence again.
• 2:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Name that sound.
• 2:26
  Ray Comfort: Someone walking into a chicken coop.
• 2:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh close, you said the first one, I thought he got it.
• 2:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Someone walking into a spider web with a spider going in their hair, my beautiful daughter, julia.
• 2:39
  Ray Comfort: Why wasn't there screaming?
• 2:41
  Emeal Zwayne: You didn't hear it.
• 2:42
  Ray Comfort: I feel like you didn't hear it, ray Comfort.
• 2:43
  Ray Comfort: I feel like spitting, spitting Every time I see a spider.
• 2:47
  Ray Comfort: I feel like spitting, spitting every time I see a spider.
• 2:48
  Emeal Zwayne: I feel like spitting.
• 2:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Look at this, oscar.
• 2:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Can you guys see it?
• 2:57
  Oscar Navarro: that's a way to start your morning oh, I love it.
• 3:01
  Emeal Zwayne: I gotta tell you guys before we delve into that um, I love ring.
• 3:03
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys have ring.
• 3:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, mark, you have ring.
• 3:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Do you know I don't not have a wedding ring?
• 3:06
  Emeal Zwayne: No, no ring, no ring.
• 3:06
  Emeal Zwayne: You do have the ring, I don't.
• 3:07
  Oscar Navarro: Yes, mark, you have Ring.
• 3:08
  Oscar Navarro: I do not have a wedding ring, no.
• 3:09
  Emeal Zwayne: No Ring, no Ring.
• 3:10
  Emeal Zwayne: You do have the Ring.
• 3:11
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't have a Ring no, you have Ring Dad.
• 3:14
  Ray Comfort: We don't have a Ring, but we do have security cameras around the front.
• 3:17
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, I helped install those.
• 3:18
  Ray Comfort: Seriously, no, no, they're the fake ones.
• 3:22
  Emeal Zwayne: We've got real ones, best inventions, and I think didn't they come out with it like, tried to sell it on Shark Tank, mark Shark Tank, and I think that nobody, they all passed on it, they all passed and it turned out being I think he sold it for the company for a billion dollars.
• 3:34
  Emeal Zwayne: It's probably worth a lot more now, but I love it because it captures these moments.
• 3:38
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, you're able to see so much happens at your front door.
• 3:42
  Ray Comfort: Now remember, when Nostradamus Remember that?
• 3:46
  Ray Comfort: How long ago was that?
• 3:47
  Ray Comfort: Was that nearly 30 years ago?
• 3:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Carter was in office.
• 3:49
  Emeal Zwayne: No, it was.
• 3:49
  Emeal Zwayne: It was about Almost 30 years, because Rachel and I Were married 28 and we were just engaged.
• 3:56
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, Well, I got some Fake spider web From somewhere.
• 4:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh is that what you did, yeah?
• 4:01
  Ray Comfort: That's right, and you could walk into it Without freaking out All over your face.
• 4:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Horrible, ray you.
• 4:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Without freaking out, it would go all over your face.
• 4:07
  Emeal Zwayne: It looked horrible, ray.
• 4:07
  Emeal Zwayne: You draped it on the little tombstone.
• 4:10
  Ray Comfort: Yes.
• 4:11
  Emeal Zwayne: That's where I got shot for drinking out of.
• 4:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Nostradamus' skull.
• 4:14
  Ray Comfort: What was it called?
• 4:14
  Ray Comfort: It's online the.
• 4:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Secrets of Nostradamus Exposed.
• 4:18
  Emeal Zwayne: That's right.
• 4:18
  Emeal Zwayne: It's on YouTube Exposed.
• 4:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, if you want to see me getting shot as a 19-year-old French soldier, I memorize the French lines Ça m'a fatigué Del.
• 4:30
  Emeal Zwayne: It means my back hurts, Because we were digging the grave.
• 4:35
  Ray Comfort: The shot rings out and I'm about 15 years old.
• 4:38
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, the secrets of Nostradamus exposed.
• 4:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Now, Ray, I want to expose something here on the Living Waters podcast.
• 4:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Why do you have such sinful hatred towards spiders?
• 4:50
  Ray Comfort: Oh, they're part of the form.
• 4:52
  Ray Comfort: There was no spiders in Eden.
• 4:53
  Ray Comfort: They're God's creation.
• 4:55
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, yeah, squish them Horrible.
• 4:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Disgusting.
• 4:58
  Emeal Zwayne: There are certain spiders that don't freak me out.
• 5:00
  Ray Comfort: but they're Okay, I think I'm just drawing on.
• 5:04
  Emeal Zwayne: I really do wonder I was in Hawaii in 1986.
• 5:07
  Ray Comfort: We were staying in Kelowna, I think it was at a base, and they'd given us a room up the back there as a speaker to missionaries at YWAM.
• 5:16
  Ray Comfort: And I walked in and Sue says there's a spider on the wall and I'm not kidding, it was at least three inches, three and a half inches across.
• 5:23
  Ray Comfort: It was what's called a banana spider.
• 5:25
  Oscar Navarro: A little smaller than the one on your shoulder.
• 5:26
  Ray Comfort: Yeah.
• 5:27
  Emeal Zwayne: He flinched for a second there.
• 5:30
  Ray Comfort: It was like the size of the back of your hand, without the fingers extended.
• 5:33
  Ray Comfort: Being a man, I rushed up to it and I could hear its feet on the wallpaper as it was walking across the wall, and so I freaked out.
• 5:41
  Ray Comfort: I said I can't, we're going to bed now.
• 5:43
  Ray Comfort: So I got the bug spray and I went and it jumped actually jumped off the wall into our bed and disappeared, and I was freaking out.
• 5:52
  Ray Comfort: I said we can't get a bed tonight, and so I lay on the bed.
• 5:55
  Ray Comfort: I looked through it and suddenly I saw this leg come out From under the bed and I just so filled it with Insect, repellent sort of foam right up and drowned it, I think.
• 6:06
  Ray Comfort: But, it was still there.
• 6:06
  Ray Comfort: We went back about a year later On the bed, but it was still there.
• 6:08
  Emeal Zwayne: We went back about a year later On the bed it's still there.
• 6:10
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, under the bed.
• 6:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, under the bed.
• 6:12
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it just came out from under the bed.
• 6:13
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, so you know, spiders freak me out.
• 6:16
  Ray Comfort: That was a yeah reminded me of Dr no, the first James Bond film, where he had a great tarantula walk across across his chest.
• 6:24
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, and it freaked him out?
• 6:26
  Mark Spence: Remember when we went to Hollywood with a box of chocolates with a hidden spider on the inside?
• 6:29
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, that was great.
• 6:30
  Mark Spence: We would thank people for their interview and give them a piece of chocolate and they would open up the box.
• 6:35
  Mark Spence: There was a spider inside and they would all jump in.
• 6:37
  Ray Comfort: No, what happened was the lid came off.
• 6:39
  Ray Comfort: The spider was connected to the lid with a little bit of fishing tackle you couldn't see, so the spider would move when you took the lid off.
• 6:48
  Emeal Zwayne: You're a monster, people scream.
• 6:50
  Emeal Zwayne: So, ray, would it have been appropriate to call you Little Mr Muffet?
• 6:56
  Ray Comfort: No, oh, little Miss Muffet sat on a tuffet.
• 6:59
  Ray Comfort: Little Mr Muffet, what is a?
• 7:01
  Emeal Zwayne: tuffet, I have no idea Eating her porridge in a way.
• 7:09
  Mark Spence: No curds, in a way Along came a spider and sat down beside her and she killed it with fly spray.
• 7:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Alternate ending.
• 7:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh boy, yeah, I am the designated spider killer in our house.
• 7:17
  Emeal Zwayne: In fact, kylie came home the other day and she said that's the biggest spider ever.
• 7:21
  Emeal Zwayne: It was like on the near the door and I'm like, okay, yeah, it's definitely not, and it actually was one of the biggest spiders.
• 7:28
  Emeal Zwayne: I've seen in person you know like uh, yeah, yeah.
• 7:32
  Ray Comfort: So what's today's subject?
• 7:35
  Mark Spence: Spiders.
• 7:36
  Mark Spence: I used to have a spider octagon where I'd put a spider on one side and then put another spider on another side and then I'd lift up the center and they would.
• 7:44
  Mark Spence: They would attack each other.
• 7:45
  Mark Spence: So I'd put in all kinds of bugs, like different kinds of spiders, and just because the spider's big doesn't mean it wins.
• 7:50
  Oscar Navarro: You started with bugs, then chickens, then dogs and then kiwis.
• 7:54
  Ray Comfort: We used to lower spiders on guests at the ministry.
• 7:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, that was actually part of Mark's job description, wasn't it back then?
• 8:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, I'm Mark.
• 8:02
  Ray Comfort: Oh, that's right, he lowered the spider from his.
• 8:04
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you don't remember that.
• 8:05
  Oscar Navarro: While they were reading something.
• 8:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, Wait what did you have them read, Ray.
• 8:08
  Ray Comfort: Oh, it was a little poem or something, oh like an alliterated.
• 8:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, it was some layman, yeah, yeah.
• 8:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 8:14
  Ray Comfort: Wow, a little tongue twister so it would get their mind off.
• 8:16
  Ray Comfort: Everyone could see a spider was being lowered on them from the roof.
• 8:20
  Mark Spence: It was quite fun, yeah, remember when Ray wanted to put a fireman's pole from his office down to the packing room.
• 8:28
  Mark Spence: Yes, and it was like no, the city will not allow us to do that, oh Ray.
• 8:33
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm going to go down to the city's office from my office, but also you would have fallen down it because gravity is not your friend.
• 8:40
  Ray Comfort: Gravity is not my friend, yeah.
• 8:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, anyway, spiders and all that good stuff.
• 8:44
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, time for a cool, classy comment.
• 8:52
  Emeal Zwayne: This is from La Fonda Lopez, dear Ray, easy, mark and Oscar, I want to say thank you for hosting the living waters podcast.
• 8:56
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• 8:58
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• 9:01
  Emeal Zwayne: I'd like to share something with y'all.
• 9:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Early this morning, on May 28th, I received a call from my mom.
• 9:08
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• 9:11
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• 9:16
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• 9:24
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• 9:29
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• 9:30
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• 9:37
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• 9:42
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• 9:48
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• 9:56
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• 10:01
  Emeal Zwayne: I have no doubt where she is right now and I have so much peace knowing she's at home with the Lord Jesus.
• 10:07
  Emeal Zwayne: I can't wait to see her again.
• 10:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank y'all for everything.
• 10:11
  Emeal Zwayne: La Fonda Lopez Wow.
• 10:13
  Oscar Navarro: I'm impressed you got through that La.
• 10:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Fonda.
• 10:15
  Ray Comfort: No other still tears.
• 10:16
  Ray Comfort: Are you gone by?
• 10:17
  Emeal Zwayne: feelings.
• 10:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, yes, I am.
• 10:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, La Fonda, what can we say?
• 10:23
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• 10:26
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• 10:34
  Ray Comfort: Amazing Praise the Lord.
• 10:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Praise God, lafonda, thank you so much for taking the time to share that and for just sticking with us as a ministry and allowing us to minister.
• 10:45
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• 10:47
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• 10:47
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• 10:48
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• 10:50
  Ray Comfort: There's about five of them in there, yeah.
• 10:52
  Emeal Zwayne: So wow, praise God.
• 10:53
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• 10:55
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• 11:07
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• 11:21
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• 11:37
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• 11:40
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• 11:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Alright, friends, today we are talking about how to live an undistracted life.
• 11:57
  Oscar Navarro: What did you say?
• 11:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I didn't get that Undistracted life Ray.
• 12:03
  Emeal Zwayne: You are the most distracted person.
• 12:04
  Ray Comfort: I know I was just going to say this program was made for me.
• 12:06
  Emeal Zwayne: There is no question, the most distracted person on the face of the earth, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel Ray.
• 12:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Why Explain?
• 12:18
  Oscar Navarro: yourself in 30 seconds.
• 12:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Tell us why I just want to know what goes on inside of you, what happens in your head in your body.
• 12:25
  Ray Comfort: It's got to be fast moving to hold my attention.
• 12:28
  Ray Comfort: If it slows down, it's gone.
• 12:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Let me tell you my testimony he's gone.
• 12:33
  Ray Comfort: What did Spurgeon say about boring preachers, whose victims find relief through sleep?
• 12:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, your biggest nightmare is when someone starts in on a very, very long story.
• 12:44
  Ray Comfort: When they say, ray, it's nice to meet you.
• 12:46
  Ray Comfort: Let me tell you I started when I was two.
• 12:48
  Ray Comfort: I think no.
• 12:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh boy, yeah, I've seen you, ray.
• 12:53
  Emeal Zwayne: I've seen you pull out your escape mechanisms.
• 12:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Do you want a maze?
• 12:57
  Ray Comfort: And it's the glazed look.
• 12:58
  Ray Comfort: I can't help it.
• 12:59
  Ray Comfort: It's the eyes go glazed.
• 13:00
  Ray Comfort: I'm not the only one.
• 13:01
  Ray Comfort: I think there's a lot of people like that.
• 13:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I think it's the byproduct of selfishness, hyper selfishness.
• 13:06
  Emeal Zwayne: That is certainly true.
• 13:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but look, we're joking around, but we can all relate to this, you know, and we're not just talking about distraction and attention span, but distraction and just losing our focus in the grand scheme of life in relation to the things that the Lord has called us to do.
• 13:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Get on A, you stupid Arab.
• 13:28
  Emeal Zwayne: But yeah, so it's a big problem.
• 13:36
  Emeal Zwayne: I know that.
• 13:37
  Emeal Zwayne: I deal with it a lot of times in my own life and my bottom line is I want to get to eternity, having done what the Lord had called me to do as His child.
• 13:49
  Ray Comfort: So that's what we're talking about being distracted from doing God's will in our lives.
• 13:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, exactly.
• 13:53
  Emeal Zwayne: And how can we live a focused life that can keep us, like that arrow heading towards its bullseye, not getting thrown off because of the different things that can distract us in life?
• 14:05
  Emeal Zwayne: And, man Mark, we live in a world that almost seems intentionally designed to constantly distract us.
• 14:14
  Mark Spence: Yeah, you consider, every app does that very thing.
• 14:17
  Mark Spence: We think that apps are designed to free our time up, but in reality, well, let me say, most of them are not.
• 14:23
  Mark Spence: Every social media outlet now is designed to keep you on the platform, so anybody that creates a video within YouTube, the way the algorithms work is you get a lot of views, that people watch a lot of it, or, if you're subscribers, click on it right away, and then how many videos are they going to watch of your material after they've watched that single video?
• 14:48
  Mark Spence: It's a cat and mouse game.
• 14:50
  Mark Spence: It really is hard, you know, before you know it, an hour goes by and you went down this wormhole of watching reel after reel after reel In shorts Shorts, yeah, these short form videos, or even long form videos.
• 15:02
  Mark Spence: The trouble is they're really interesting.
• 15:03
  Mark Spence: Some of them are what's that one?
• 15:05
  Mark Spence: All right.
• 15:08
  Mark Spence: So we need to practice some very good, disciplined time management.
• 15:12
  Mark Spence: Ephesians 5,.
• 15:12
  Mark Spence: Be very careful, then, how you live, not as unwise, but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil, matthew Henry.
• 15:22
  Mark Spence: He worded it like this, the great commentator time is a talent given to us by God, and it is misspent and lost when not employed according to his design.
• 15:33
  Mark Spence: You know, there's nothing wrong with pausing and slowing down and playing a game, watching a movie, but if that just almost defines who we are, you know we need to be careful.
• 15:44
  Mark Spence: Sit down and watch that movie, but maybe you could do something else at the same time if you haven't gotten things done that you were need to be careful, sit down and watch that movie, but maybe you could do something else at the same time if you haven't gotten things done that you were supposed to get done, like eat, like eat, whatever it may be.
• 15:57
  Mark Spence: Maybe there's multiple things that you can do at one time, but discipline, time management is so important.
• 16:01
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, neil Postman.
• 16:03
  Oscar Navarro: He said that Americans were going to start amusing themselves to death.
• 16:09
  Oscar Navarro: He said that at the invention of the radio and TV amusing ourselves to death I mean almost in a prophetic way.
• 16:18
  Oscar Navarro: He had no idea the power of the phone.
• 16:20
  Oscar Navarro: And here's the reality.
• 16:21
  Oscar Navarro: You're hitting it on the head.
• 16:22
  Oscar Navarro: Your attention is a commodity and your phone, whether you realize it or not, like you're saying, it, doesn't work for you.
• 16:30
  Oscar Navarro: You're not the customer, you're the product.
• 16:32
  Oscar Navarro: A multi-billion dollar corporation in California is selling your attention.
• 16:38
  Oscar Navarro: And here's the reason why this matters is because, as someone once said, attention is the beginning of devotion.
• 16:44
  Oscar Navarro: I love this quote that I read in a book once.
• 16:47
  Oscar Navarro: It said this because what you give your attention to is the person you become.
• 16:52
  Oscar Navarro: Put another way, the mind is a portal to the soul, and what you fill your mind with will shape the trajectory of your character.
• 17:00
  Oscar Navarro: In the end, your life is no more less than the sum of what you give your attention to.
• 17:06
  Oscar Navarro: That bodes well for those apprentices of Jesus who give the bulk of their attention to him and to all that is good, beautiful and true in this world, but not for those who give their attention to the 24-7 news cycle of outrage and anxiety and emotionally charged drama, or the nonstop feed of celebrity gossip, titillation and cultural drivel.
• 17:29
  Oscar Navarro: As if we give it in the first place, much of it is stolen by the clever algorithm out to monetize our precious attention.
• 17:38
  Oscar Navarro: But again we become what we give our attention to, for better or for worse.
• 17:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh man, that's one of the most accurate descriptions of something I've heard, because that's exactly what it is.
• 17:53
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, look, when you boil down everything in this world to kind of its bare minimum, I mean there's not much there in terms of, like, the main elements that can kind of consume our lives.
• 18:09
  Emeal Zwayne: You see, you hear, you talk, you eat, right, I mean, and you relate.
• 18:14
  Emeal Zwayne: And so in all of those realms there are so many things that can distract you within them, and there's sometimes things within some of them that will distract you from the other ones that are more important.
• 18:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Like it could be something I'm listening to or hearing, but it's taking me out of the realm of relating.
• 18:34
  Emeal Zwayne: So now I'm not interacting with my children, I'm not interacting with my wife.
• 18:39
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, I remember reading this one thing once that talked about how, you know, a man sits at a table and he's reading his newspaper and is totally ignoring the woman who bore his children, who washes his clothes, who loves him dearly every day, who put that breakfast in front of him, and he doesn't even put that paper down for one moment to relate to her.
• 19:02
  Ray Comfort: It's really.
• 19:03
  Ray Comfort: You actually cut a little hole in the paper so you can see your wife when you're reading it, see, you raise distractions.
• 19:10
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm'm gonna talk about that right now.
• 19:12
  Oscar Navarro: yeah, how many holes in ipads have you tried cutting?
• 19:14
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, we know you've done that.
• 19:16
  Ray Comfort: I was thinking about it yesterday because when I was brought up on newspapers, newspapers delivered to your house every day and you'd read it and I thought be fun to sit down and just take my time and read a paper.
• 19:26
  Ray Comfort: I thought no, I wouldn't, because the news is like 12 hours old.
• 19:30
  Ray Comfort: You know, I want instant news on my iPad.
• 19:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I mean.
• 19:34
  Emeal Zwayne: It's so weird when you think of the things that people had, as opposed to what we have now, and they used to see those things as wow, you know like you'll watch something and there'll be a whole family sitting around a radio and they would have those.
• 19:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Remember the radio theater programs and that was intriguing for people.
• 19:53
  Emeal Zwayne: That changed the world.
• 19:54
  Emeal Zwayne: When you're inside your house and there's a voice coming from thousands of miles away and you're hearing it, Like Winston Churchill, yeah, I mean it was huge, orson.
• 20:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Welles.
• 20:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, this morning I came across some video, probably a distraction.
• 20:07
  Emeal Zwayne: It's funny because sometimes I'll open my phone to go like look something up or to get back to someone or something, and it'll be like on Facebook or something, and then a video and I'm just like, oh, and then you're just there and you get distracted, you're gone.
• 20:19
  Emeal Zwayne: But it was Tony Robbins.
• 20:20
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys remember that motivational dude?
• 20:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, of course, big guy, and he was so young he must have been in his early 20s but he was talking about sales technique and he was talking about how he was with this one company and they were selling cassette tapes and they were selling like a service where they would send you constant tapes of your favorite kind of music and it's like $1,000 back then.
• 20:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Columbia House.
• 20:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's what it was.
• 20:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Columbia House, oh, was it?
• 20:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, okay.
• 20:45
  Emeal Zwayne: So I'm like, but I was trying to think of what a like for a young person today listening to that.
• 20:51
  Emeal Zwayne: They would have absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
• 20:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, not the language At the click of a button, like millions of songs, millions of videos, movies.
• 21:02
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean it's incredible.
• 21:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Constant, constant distraction, wonderful.
• 21:06
  Emeal Zwayne: So I love it.
• 21:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Wonderful.
• 21:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, constant distraction, wonderful, I love it Wonderful.
• 21:10
  Emeal Zwayne: How does Lucy feel about all this Ray?
• 21:12
  Ray Comfort: She really likes it, lucy, your dog.
• 21:13
  Ray Comfort: She gets jealous whenever my phone rings.
• 21:16
  Ray Comfort: I'm not kidding, she becomes incredibly affectionate, just like my wife.
• 21:20
  Ray Comfort: What a possessive dog.
• 21:22
  Oscar Navarro: Do you know that the attention span of a fish is seven seconds?
• 21:26
  Ray Comfort: It's goldfish?
• 21:27
  Oscar Navarro: Goldfish is seven seconds.
• 21:27
  Oscar Navarro: Is goldfish?
• 21:28
  Oscar Navarro: Goldfish is seven seconds.
• 21:28
  Oscar Navarro: And they just did a survey.
• 21:29
  Oscar Navarro: They believe now that the attention fan span of most young people is six seconds.
• 21:35
  Oscar Navarro: Dude, we're losing to the goldfish.
• 21:37
  Oscar Navarro: Are you serious?
• 21:38
  Oscar Navarro: Yes, we are losing to the goldfish.
• 21:39
  Oscar Navarro: They're in a bowl.
• 21:40
  Oscar Navarro: It's yeah, it's not fair.
• 21:43
  Emeal Zwayne: It's utter madness, you know, but, but we can all relate to it.
• 21:47
  Emeal Zwayne: And what is it, though?
• 21:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Let's explore that first.
• 21:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Like what is it?
• 21:52
  Emeal Zwayne: I call it an itch.
• 21:53
  Emeal Zwayne: It's some sort of itch, like I feel it oftentimes when I'm about to do something very important, like study, or, you know, work on my book back in the day when I was writing it, or whatever, like prepare for a speech.
• 22:07
  Emeal Zwayne: There's this itch.
• 22:11
  Mark Spence: What is it?
• 22:11
  Mark Spence: Dopamine, Yep, instant gratification you mean to?
• 22:14
  Ray Comfort: do something else that doesn't require discipline, right yeah, it's like custard, you don't have to chew it, just swallow it.
• 22:21
  Oscar Navarro: Well, mark just hit it on the head.
• 22:22
  Oscar Navarro: It's delayed gratification.
• 22:23
  Oscar Navarro: So the Lord has created our minds and what they're supposed to do is that, after hard work, we get a dopamine hit, which is an affirmation of gratification for the hard work that we put into something.
• 22:38
  Oscar Navarro: So you think about like, if I drive up a hill and see a sunset, the experience of that is very different than me hiking up a hill and seeing that sunset.
• 22:47
  Oscar Navarro: Oh yeah, it's much easier driving.
• 22:49
  Oscar Navarro: The Lord has created our brains to give us a sense of satisfaction when we accomplish something.
• 22:55
  Oscar Navarro: And the reality is that our phones are also designed to give us dopamine hits.
• 23:00
  Oscar Navarro: And so you made the point like right before I'm supposed to do something important when you're doing something important, the way the Lord created your brain is that it's going to give you the satisfaction when you're doing something important.
• 23:09
  Oscar Navarro: The way the Lord created your brain is that it's going to give you the satisfaction when you're done.
• 23:10
  Oscar Navarro: But your brain now knows that it can bypass the hard work and get the dopamine hit right now.
• 23:17
  Oscar Navarro: And so you go to your phone and you get the hit that you're wanting to do and avoiding the hard work that you normally have to do to get the hit.
• 23:24
  Ray Comfort: So that kills the satisfaction you get from climbing a hill.
• 23:27
  Ray Comfort: You don't want to climb a hill.
• 23:29
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah and it, yeah.
• 23:30
  Oscar Navarro: It kills the satisfaction, it kills motivation and drive and it kills the imagination.
• 23:35
  Mark Spence: So, so, oscar, I'm totally intrigued with this.
• 23:37
  Mark Spence: So what is the alternative, Right?
• 23:39
  Mark Spence: So, after a hard day's work or creating something, instead of going for that dopamine hit, is there a different type of dopamine hit that you go to, or is there a different place you go to for rest?
• 23:49
  Mark Spence: Yeah, what do people?
• 23:53
  Oscar Navarro: I'm forgetting the title of the book that I read this from, but the suggestion was to recognize that you have to give yourself a sense of gratification after the hard work.
• 24:04
  Oscar Navarro: So they would say, for example like I know I need to write X, y, z, I know I need to answer all of my emails and when I am done with this project I'm going to give myself this reward.
• 24:17
  Oscar Navarro: So one of the examples is they talk about working out in chocolate shakes like a protein shake.
• 24:23
  Oscar Navarro: He says if you don't have any sweets all day long and you know the first time you're gonna experience a sweet is by drinking your chocolate protein shake after your workout, you're more likely gonna go to the gym and finish the workout because your brain is attached to the reward of the chocolate shake.
• 24:38
  Oscar Navarro: After your workout, you're more likely gonna go to the gym and finish the workout because your brain is attached to the reward of the chocolate shake after the workout.
• 24:42
  Emeal Zwayne: It's so true and we've all experienced it when we do something that required exertion and was noble.
• 24:51
  Emeal Zwayne: We know what that feeling is.
• 24:55
  Emeal Zwayne: We can all recognize it.
• 24:57
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, I would say it's kind of like this maybe this is a draw it would be, like you know, eating a healthy meal, which is not in and of itself usually enjoyable, right, versus eating a bunch of junk food, right?
• 25:13
  Emeal Zwayne: So I would tend toward wanting to eat that junk food because in the immediate it feels good, but usually after I eat that junk food, I feel horrible, like.
• 25:21
  Emeal Zwayne: I feel like whereas I deny myself I eat the healthy food and, even though I didn't enjoy it per se, I do feel better afterward.
• 25:29
  Emeal Zwayne: And then you know, when you put it within its context regarding just moderation, and then you eat something that's sweet and enjoyable or whatever, regarding just moderation, and then you eat something that's sweet and enjoyable or whatever, then it's like the dessert after the dinner, it feels fine.
• 25:41
  Emeal Zwayne: So I think it's just that determination to deny ourselves for what is the greater good and to work hard and to be determined and committed and, most importantly, ray, being about our Father's business.
• 25:56
  Ray Comfort: Yes, when we talk about not being distracted or living an undistracted life, I just think of the gospel, that sinners are sinking into hell and that we need to do everything we can, with God's help, to reach them.
• 26:08
  Ray Comfort: And so I look at Luke 9, 51.
• 26:13
  Ray Comfort: And think of Isaiah 50, verse 7.
• 26:17
  Ray Comfort: Let me quote it therefore I've set my face like a flint, it says in the Messiah, and I know that I will not be ashamed, so the Messiah would set his face as a flint.
• 26:28
  Ray Comfort: And then Luke 9, 51, and he steadfastly set his face to Jerusalem.
• 26:33
  Ray Comfort: That word flint is speaking of a stone.
• 26:35
  Ray Comfort: That's very, very hard and if you hit it, you a spark.
• 26:38
  Ray Comfort: That's what they use in the big lighters and stuff.
• 26:41
  Ray Comfort: I'm not sure, maybe they used it Flint rock.
• 26:42
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, was that Flint rock?
• 26:44
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, that was like Fred Flintstone, flint Michigan.
• 26:48
  Oscar Navarro: Oh, I've been to Flint Michigan.
• 26:52
  Ray Comfort: That's a distraction, stop it.
• 26:54
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, so what we need to do?
• 26:56
  Ray Comfort: We need to follow in the footsteps of Jesus.
• 26:58
  Ray Comfort: He set his face toward the cross and we need to set our face toward the preaching of the cross.
• 27:02
  Ray Comfort: And when Peter tried to distract Jesus from that, setting his face like a flint toward Jerusalem, he got sparks.
• 27:10
  Ray Comfort: Get behind me, satan.
• 27:12
  Ray Comfort: And that's the attitude that we need to have when it comes to evangelism to seek and save that which is lost from all our hearts.
• 27:19
  Ray Comfort: And this isn't pride, and I'll qualify it in a minute, but that's what I've endeavored to do from the moment I become a Christian until this present day to set my face as a flint, to reach out to the lost, and that's nothing special.
• 27:31
  Ray Comfort: We're to present our bodies as living sacrifices wholly acceptable to God, which is our reasonable service.
• 27:37
  Ray Comfort: We're like servants that do the reasonable thing, just do that which we should.
• 27:41
  Ray Comfort: And we should if we're in a lifeboat and all around us people are drowning.
• 27:49
  Ray Comfort: Nothing should distract us from our commission to reach out and save them, to throw a line to them, and nothing should stop us from reaching out to the lost.
• 27:54
  Emeal Zwayne: We use a line oftentimes you definitely won't regret that, you definitely wouldn't regret it.
• 27:59
  Emeal Zwayne: If you do this, I assure you you're not going to regret it, right?
• 28:01
  Emeal Zwayne: But I put that against the backdrop of eternity.
• 28:06
  Emeal Zwayne: You think of all the things that we will likely regret having done in life.
• 28:12
  Emeal Zwayne: You could say, yeah, you may regret that, but this you definitely won't Like.
• 28:16
  Emeal Zwayne: What kind of regret would we have if we truly did set our face as a flint, if we truly did live without distraction, if we truly did love and give and serve?
• 28:24
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean regret.
• 28:27
  Emeal Zwayne: There's going to be abundance of joy when we stand before the Lord 2 Corinthians 5, and give account for our lives.
• 28:35
  Emeal Zwayne: And Paul says in that context you know that, whether present or absent, that we may be well-pleasing to him.
• 28:41
  Emeal Zwayne: You know we just have to be all in, and I can't remember if I shared this on a recent podcast or not, but I was talking to someone about this recently.
• 28:51
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, when you think of the parkour guys Hardcore parkourour, did I?
• 28:56
  Oscar Navarro: talk about that on the podcast.
• 28:57
  Ray Comfort: I can't remember.
• 28:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Anyway, it's worth repeating.
• 28:58
  Emeal Zwayne: But you see, the parkour guys.
• 29:00
  Emeal Zwayne: What's the parkour guy?
• 29:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Parkour, the parkour.
• 29:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I must not have talked about it.
• 29:04
  Emeal Zwayne: No, it's those guys that do the crazy jumping off of buildings oh yes, yeah, I remember, you mentioned that yeah, they're doing.
• 29:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Did I talk?
• 29:12
  Ray Comfort: I remember it, but say it again because we've probably forgot.
• 29:15
  Ray Comfort: I did talk about it.
• 29:15
  Ray Comfort: You forget 90% of that what you hear.
• 29:17
  Emeal Zwayne: No, mark doesn't remember.
• 29:18
  Emeal Zwayne: I think it's 90%.
• 29:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, no, it's just the whole principle of like oh yeah, I remember.
• 29:21
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, do you remember?
• 29:22
  Ray Comfort: No, I don't Oscar, do you?
• 29:24
  Emeal Zwayne: remember, you don't remember right?
• 29:26
  Ray Comfort: Yes, I do.
• 29:26
  Ray Comfort: Oh, I remember.
• 29:26
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, what did I say about him?
• 29:28
  Oscar Navarro: You were mentioning how they were coming from place to place, how that reminds you of something else.
• 29:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Go ahead, tell us what it reminds you of.
• 29:40
  Emeal Zwayne: So the whole thing was I remember seeing one guy on one video where it's going for long he kept going up.
• 29:46
  Emeal Zwayne: There it is.
• 29:47
  Emeal Zwayne: He was going to jump across like a big chasm from one roof of a building to another roof of a building and he kept going back and forth.
• 29:55
  Emeal Zwayne: He kept like oh, and he kept stopping and he's like, oh, I can't commit, I can't commit.
• 30:03
  Emeal Zwayne: And then finally he's like, all right, man, I think I'm going to commit.
• 30:05
  Emeal Zwayne: And then he just did it and he went and he did it.
• 30:07
  Emeal Zwayne: So my point in that is Did he land it?
• 30:08
  Emeal Zwayne: He landed it.
• 30:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, my point in that is you know that you cannot go half-hearted into that because it's going to cost you your life.
• 30:21
  Emeal Zwayne: You have to be fully committed, 100%, all in, or else don't do it.
• 30:23
  Emeal Zwayne: And that hit me recently as I was thinking about that, with an evangelism outreach I was going to do.
• 30:27
  Emeal Zwayne: And I remember thinking to myself I am all in, there's no half-stepping here.
• 30:30
  Emeal Zwayne: There's no, hey, how are you?
• 30:32
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like, all in, because I want to make this jump.
• 30:37
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, that's really good yeah, it really.
• 30:38
  Emeal Zwayne: It was like one of those paradigm shift moments for me.
• 30:41
  Emeal Zwayne: That like it was like one of those mark we talk about, the hey, it's going to work out, it always has, it always will right.
• 30:46
  Emeal Zwayne: It became like that for me with evangelism it was like no, I'm all in, I'm committing they don't show you the guys that died, yeah right, but uh, but we just have to tell ourselves that no, I'm, I'm fully in here.
• 30:58
  Emeal Zwayne: There's no, there's no.
• 30:59
  Emeal Zwayne: It makes no sense to be half-hearted, you know.
• 31:02
  Oscar Navarro: Fully in also has a lot to do with presence.
• 31:04
  Oscar Navarro: Like you're, like when you say I'm fully in, definitely when it comes to evangelism, but also in regards to distraction I have.
• 31:11
  Oscar Navarro: There is this moment for me, similar for you, in that kind of epiphany, where I realized the importance of practicing presence in my life.
• 31:21
  Oscar Navarro: And so this comes back to distraction.
• 31:22
  Oscar Navarro: I'll tell you that, the awful evilness that I am.
• 31:25
  Oscar Navarro: One day I'm sitting on the couch in my living room and I'm scrolling social media and a friend of mine posts this like perfectly back lit, angled picture of him and his family playing a board game.
• 31:39
  Oscar Navarro: And I look at this and I go, I'm sitting on my couch and I'm like you know, envy starts to come up in my mind.
• 31:45
  Oscar Navarro: I'm like man, how come?
• 31:46
  Oscar Navarro: How come we don't play board games as a family as often as they do?
• 31:49
  Oscar Navarro: Look at how much fun they're having.
• 31:50
  Oscar Navarro: And I look up from my phone and my wife and my three kids are sitting at the kitchen table playing a board board game Playing a board game without me.
• 32:00
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, well, I was probably obviously invited.
• 32:02
  Oscar Navarro: The point is is that in that moment I realized how much distraction pulls me away from being present and enjoying the moment.
• 32:11
  Oscar Navarro: Which, by the way, presence is a gift from the Lord.
• 32:15
  Oscar Navarro: God is trying to bless me with all of the extraordinary ordinary is the gift from the Lord.
• 32:19
  Oscar Navarro: God is trying to bless me with all of the extraordinary ordinary moments in life and here I am getting my dopamine hit instead of enjoying the gift that he gives us.
• 32:27
  Oscar Navarro: Sarcastic is this philosopher.
• 32:30
  Oscar Navarro: He says wonder arises when the commonplace becomes suddenly perplexing and the ordinary takes an extraordinary quality.
• 32:40
  Oscar Navarro: Alan Noble tells the story about his daughter jumping and how much joy she was getting at just like jumping.
• 32:48
  Oscar Navarro: And he says he points out she's jumping like an inch off the ground, but his daughter's just loving it.
• 32:55
  Oscar Navarro: He says her pure excitement overwhelms my wife and me.
• 32:59
  Oscar Navarro: We can't help but cheer her on, even though her jumping is, technically speaking, pretty sad.
• 33:04
  Oscar Navarro: In these moments the praise we give is not feigned praise for her jumping.
• 33:09
  Oscar Navarro: Brie prays for taking delight in the goodness of being See.
• 33:15
  Oscar Navarro: Distraction pulls us away from presence, which pulls us away from all the beautiful wonder that God offers us in the extraordinary moments of life.
• 33:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, man, oscar, that's so-.
• 33:27
  Ray Comfort: Blue skies, just blow me away.
• 33:28
  Ray Comfort: Never get tired of big puffy clouds and blue skies.
• 33:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and I think sometimes we get so accustomed to relating in distraction mode that we we take it as normalcy, like we don't realize, like how hurtful that is to the people that we love that and, and maybe because they don't voice it, we don't realize it.
• 33:49
  Emeal Zwayne: But I assure you it's that and we talked about feelings on on the recent episode, but but it is, there's that feeling you can't describe that you get from someone's mode or the way they relate to you.
• 34:03
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like all of us, we know those people that just when we think of them we can't explain it, but there's this feeling that just arises and it's like, oh, I love being around that person, I'm so excited to see them.
• 34:12
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, and how sad to think, especially when it comes to discipling our kids and leading our wives, that they get that sense about us unintentionally, but like there's no excitement because we don't act like we're excited about them.
• 34:28
  Emeal Zwayne: You know I may have told this story but I think in this context it's worth sharing.
• 34:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Was it the parkour?
• 34:35
  Mark Spence: So this parkour thing, how did you know?
• 34:37
  Mark Spence: How did you know it was about?
• 34:39
  Emeal Zwayne: parkour.
• 34:39
  Emeal Zwayne: So I was reading this book and I'm almost done with it.
• 34:43
  Emeal Zwayne: But he was talking about how Green eggs and ham.
• 34:46
  Emeal Zwayne: In their neighborhood, where they lived, all the homes were in this like circle around a pond and all the back doors were facing the pond and they were all sliding glass doors.
• 34:58
  Emeal Zwayne: So if you can imagine, right, like everyone who's who's hanging out in the evening, everyone can look into everyone's home, Right?
• 35:04
  Emeal Zwayne: So he, he in the book.
• 35:06
  Emeal Zwayne: He talked about how he, he did a whole lot of nothing with his family, and what he meant by that was they, they, they just spent time together.
• 35:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, it wasn't anything people would say is like, oh, hugely significant, Like, and.
• 35:16
  Emeal Zwayne: And he talked about how he had an opportunity to get this really high paying job but he decided to forego it and take something where he made a lot less money but he was able to be with his family.
• 35:26
  Emeal Zwayne: And he said, every night they would just hang out in their house, they would play games, they would go outside and throw the ball around, they would take walks, they would laugh, joke together, whatever.
• 35:43
  Emeal Zwayne: And again, everyone's looking at everyone's houses.
• 35:44
  Emeal Zwayne: So he said, one day one of the neighbors that he didn't know finally approached him and he said you know what, man, I just got to tell you.
• 35:47
  Emeal Zwayne: He said I can't explain this.
• 35:47
  Emeal Zwayne: It's the weirdest thing in the world, but every time I see you and your family together doing the things that you do I don't know why, but it makes me think about God.
• 35:58
  Emeal Zwayne: It makes me think about God and man.
• 36:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I remember reading that and thinking whoa, and again, don't misread here I'm not saying that's all we do and that's our evangelism God forbid.
• 36:09
  Emeal Zwayne: But there is something about that that I think, is communicating a message to other people, to unbelievers.
• 36:16
  Emeal Zwayne: This is something different.
• 36:18
  Emeal Zwayne: This is something significant, Like there's something that's so contrary to the way this world rolls and that can be an opportunity for the gospel, and it's great to hear that story again.
• 36:31
  Emeal Zwayne: You did say it Did I share it.
• 36:32
  Oscar Navarro: I like the idea of the guy responding like why are you looking inside my house?
• 36:36
  Oscar Navarro: Did I share it before you did?
• 36:38
  Oscar Navarro: But it's really good In this context.
• 36:40
  Emeal Zwayne: I think it was worth it.
• 36:41
  Emeal Zwayne: For those that didn't hear it, so didn't hear what, no, it was distracted.
• 36:46
  Emeal Zwayne: So so, oscar, do you have something to say?
• 36:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Let's get practical, yeah.
• 36:51
  Oscar Navarro: Oh man, I'm so glad you said that, cause what is the answer?
• 36:53
  Oscar Navarro: You know what is the answer?
• 36:54
  Oscar Navarro: I think I alluded to one which is practicing presence, and in a very practical way.
• 36:58
  Oscar Navarro: Let me just.
• 36:59
  Oscar Navarro: I mean, these are like silly practical things, but I'm just going to tell you some phone practices that we have in our home.
• 37:03
  Oscar Navarro: First, I have all of my notifications on my phone turned off, except for three.
• 37:08
  Oscar Navarro: I've got text messages, phone calls and work emails, because those are things that I know need my almost usually need my attention or willing to need my attention.
• 37:17
  Oscar Navarro: But other than that, youtube, instagram, any other social media, any other news cycle I have them all turned off because I don't want those apps telling me when to focus on them.
• 37:27
  Oscar Navarro: I want to decide when to focus.
• 37:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Same here.
• 37:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I have all that stuff off Cause you're saying you have the notifications turned off.
• 37:33
  Oscar Navarro: Is that what you mean?
• 37:34
  Oscar Navarro: Notifications and banners?
• 37:35
  Oscar Navarro: All of it's off completely.
• 37:36
  Oscar Navarro: I can have 500 comments or whatever.
• 37:40
  Oscar Navarro: Not that anybody ever would send me 500 comments.
• 37:42
  Oscar Navarro: The point is, I would never know until I decide for myself when to go into those apps.
• 37:48
  Oscar Navarro: Secondly, we practice our phones.
• 37:50
  Oscar Navarro: We have a phone place for our home.
• 37:52
  Oscar Navarro: When we walk into our home, in our living room, there's a corner and that's where we put our phones, and so what that means is that if I do need to grab my phone, I'm not stuck on my couch anymore, getting pulled away from the present moment.
• 38:05
  Oscar Navarro: I'm standing at the counter.
• 38:07
  Oscar Navarro: I know what I'm doing and what that does is it tells me I'm here for a moment to get this thing done, and then I'm putting it down and I'm walking away again.
• 38:14
  Oscar Navarro: So just practicing presence, having a discipline with your phone, not having it be the first thing you grab in the morning that was another awakening for me was.
• 38:25
  Oscar Navarro: I woke up one morning and I turned off the alarm on my phone and there was like a notification.
• 38:31
  Oscar Navarro: Someone mentioned something about the news.
• 38:33
  Oscar Navarro: I pop it in and before you know it, I'm getting out of my bed and I've been on my phone for 30 minutes Before I even step feet on the ground.
• 38:42
  Oscar Navarro: I've spent 30 minutes on my phone.
• 38:44
  Ray Comfort: Well, that's wise.
• 38:45
  Ray Comfort: I always go from my iPad.
• 38:48
  Oscar Navarro: So practicing presence, fasting from digital distractions.
• 38:52
  Oscar Navarro: And then here's the thing is discipleship, because ultimately we're having discipleship conversation here.
• 38:57
  Oscar Navarro: Discipleship isn't always less than it's not just taking away, it's in addition to, it's adding.
• 39:04
  Oscar Navarro: What do you add?
• 39:05
  Oscar Navarro: What you add is prayer, meditation, time in God's word, replace the, because again we're talking about attention, and where you put your attention there you become.
• 39:19
  Oscar Navarro: So don't be distracted by these things and instead replace them with attention, soul grabbing content, which is the glory of God.
• 39:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Amen and Mark, wouldn't you say like what if I say no, though, yeah, then I've never said that.
• 39:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Then you used to be on the living water, so um.
• 39:43
  Emeal Zwayne: But.
• 39:44
  Emeal Zwayne: But aside from those, those benefits that are so phenomenal, that statement to your family of here's what I'm doing, right?
• 39:53
  Emeal Zwayne: That statement in and of itself and they know, this is my dad's habit.
• 39:57
  Emeal Zwayne: He puts his phone aside when he comes home or whatever, and again, I'm not saying this has to be the norm for everyone, but Oscar does this.
• 40:05
  Emeal Zwayne: That's where I desire to get.
• 40:07
  Emeal Zwayne: I've done it at times I haven't been consistent.
• 40:09
  Emeal Zwayne: I want to get there where I really get home, put my phone to charge and go check it periodically when I need to, right After I've really invested in my family, check it periodically when I need to right After I've really invested in my family.
• 40:19
  Mark Spence: So that statement, that's a huge statement.
• 40:20
  Mark Spence: I was at a restaurant last night celebrating the birthdays of my wife and my son Nathaniel they share the same day and there was a couple that were sitting at this table and the entire time they were on their phones, not engaging with each other.
• 40:33
  Mark Spence: I was so blown away I could not take it in quick enough.
• 40:38
  Mark Spence: Did you film them Off from my phone?
• 40:42
  Mark Spence: I did not, but I love taking pictures of people that are on their phones while they drive, while I'm driving.
• 40:47
  Mark Spence: But, yeah, trying to live in the moment.
• 40:51
  Mark Spence: Right, this is all we have live in the now.
• 40:54
  Mark Spence: You know, I saw an interesting meme not too long ago of hey, you want to come over to my house and hang out on our phones together?
• 41:02
  Mark Spence: Because, that's the way teenagers really are right, let's get together.
• 41:05
  Mark Spence: But then you see what they're doing they're just all on their phones, so they don't know different do they?
• 41:10
  Ray Comfort: This is this generation.
• 41:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, unfortunately, it's default.
• 41:14
  Emeal Zwayne: It's just what they do.
• 41:23
  Emeal Zwayne: I love those families where you know the kids, they, they and there are I've seen a few of them but the kids really don't have much interest in in social media or that kind of thing.
• 41:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Like, of course they'll, they'll do some of it, but it's measured, it's controlled, and I think that's something we need to think about.
• 41:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Like that is a part of discipleship.
• 41:39
  Emeal Zwayne: You're teaching your kids how to control themselves, you're teaching them how to have structure in their life, and it's kind of like when you put things in the right order.
• 41:48
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys have all heard that analogy with the jar of walnuts and rice.
• 41:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, if?
• 41:53
  Ray Comfort: you put the rice in first.
• 41:54
  Ray Comfort: I haven't heard it.
• 41:55
  Ray Comfort: You haven't.
• 41:56
  Ray Comfort: No, no.
• 41:57
  Mark Spence: Do it, another story rice right if you put the rice in.
• 41:57
  Mark Spence: I haven't heard it.
• 41:58
  Mark Spence: Yeah, no, no, do it.
• 41:58
  Mark Spence: Another story that easy is shared once before millions of times.
• 42:00
  Emeal Zwayne: But no, you put.
• 42:00
  Emeal Zwayne: If you put the rice in first and then the walnuts, they won't fit.
• 42:03
  Emeal Zwayne: If you put the walnuts in first and then the rice and goes in between all the cracks, then both will fit, and then water, and then everything else.
• 42:11
  Mark Spence: No, there's like a whole.
• 42:12
  Mark Spence: Yeah, that is well.
• 42:12
  Emeal Zwayne: There's like six different things the box with the bowling balls yeah, bb's and the marbles, all, all that oh parkour.
• 42:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh boy, but yeah, so it's putting things in the right order and then things fit and then it's enjoyable, like when I do, and I've taught my kids this since they were small do the hard things first.
• 42:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Do the things you don't necessarily desire to do first, then you can relax and enjoy.
• 42:38
  Emeal Zwayne: If you're trying to enjoy an activity, a movie, whatever, and you still have something to do, it's weighing on you and you can't fully enjoy it, do those more difficult things then Deal with Goliath right now.
• 42:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah kill G life now and then carry on and then enjoy you know, so, Ray, what are some of the things that you do to keep you from distraction?
• 43:04
  Ray Comfort: Well, first of all I'd like to say how much I appreciate you guys and how, over the years, that you've not made me have to go to committee meetings and stuff like that.
• 43:09
  Ray Comfort: The word committee has got two M's, two T's and two E's.
• 43:12
  Ray Comfort: It's a total waste of time Redundancy the word.
• 43:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Committee has got two m's, two t's and two e's.
• 43:17
  Ray Comfort: It's total wasted time, yeah just just like committees, and it's so, so neat of you, especially easy.
• 43:23
  Ray Comfort: You say you don't have to come to these so I can devote myself to seeking the lost, which I do each day.
• 43:28
  Ray Comfort: So that's one thing I really appreciate.
• 43:30
  Ray Comfort: And distractions I have to discipline myself and it's going to bring me back to a memory that that's going to provoke some thoughts in you.
• 43:36
  Ray Comfort: I once got distracted from what I was doing by making a 30-foot balloon of an arrow.
• 43:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I remember that.
• 43:46
  Ray Comfort: The giant arrow, yes yes, I had an idea and I'll just give a little rundown on how it did distract me and why it distracted me and I won't let it do it again.
• 43:57
  Ray Comfort: I'll just give a little rundown on how it did distract me and why it distracted me.
• 43:59
  Ray Comfort: I know I won't let it do it again.
• 44:00
  Ray Comfort: I'd drive around the freeways and I'd see all these car sales floating balloons trying to get our attention.
• 44:04
  Ray Comfort: I thought imagine if you had a huge balloon that was just a red arrow, held or tethered by fishing tackle.
• 44:11
  Ray Comfort: That couldn't be seen, so it would be an arrow in the sky pointing down to this and that would get incredible attention.
• 44:15
  Ray Comfort: So I had a 30-foot balloon made.
• 44:17
  Ray Comfort: We filled it with helium, our whole staff went and did it.
• 44:19
  Ray Comfort: We put it up over a car sales yard by the was it the 405 or 605?
• 44:24
  Ray Comfort: We got permission and it was absolutely incredible.
• 44:28
  Ray Comfort: When Izzy and I left, there was this huge arrow pointing down to the car sails and we came back an hour later the wind had come up and it was going crazy like some sort of big game fish on the end of the tackle fighting for its life and it just dived.
• 44:42
  Ray Comfort: I mean in the truest sense of the word.
• 44:43
  Ray Comfort: It was dead.
• 44:44
  Ray Comfort: But looking back on it, that was a big distraction.
• 44:47
  Ray Comfort: The reason I justified putting so much time and energy into it is because I thought that could bring in huge money for the ministry.
• 44:52
  Ray Comfort: But as I gave it some thought, if that had taken off I would have to get a building to house everything in employ people, pay taxes, get an accountant, get a lot of money to get these balloons made, then put all this energy and time into advertising it, selling it, running after people, make sure they're there, and what a total waste of time.
• 45:14
  Ray Comfort: It would have been An absolute distraction.
• 45:16
  Ray Comfort: So now when I get some dumb idea, I don't pursue it, even though it seems good.
• 45:20
  Ray Comfort: Getting patents and things like that is just a waste of time.
• 45:23
  Emeal Zwayne: You know it's so tempting, man Ray, I'm so glad you brought that up.
• 45:27
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, if you guys have ever watched Shark Tank, oftentimes you'll see these guys just pass on things and they'll say you know, well, it's because that's just something I don't know, it's not something I'm into.
• 45:41
  Emeal Zwayne: And then they'll say, for that reason I'm out, right, that's kind of the standard thing they say.
• 45:46
  Emeal Zwayne: And I'm sitting there looking at someone like Mark Cuban and I'm like dude, you've got like billions upon billions of dollars.
• 45:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, it's not in your wheelhouse, it's not something you know, but just throw it at it, just do it.
• 45:57
  Emeal Zwayne: You know.
• 45:57
  Emeal Zwayne: But these guys have learned through wisdom and experience.
• 46:00
  Emeal Zwayne: But here is the temptation.
• 46:01
  Emeal Zwayne: And this came up because I was recently talking to a friend who had done really well in the medical industry and then he said another guy that he knows was in the gas and oil industry and he tried to get him to invest in, in, in something in gas and oil.
• 46:15
  Emeal Zwayne: And he said he just said to him no, you know what I know medical, and that's.
• 46:21
  Emeal Zwayne: I just want to stick with what I know, focus on what, what I'm familiar with.
• 46:23
  Emeal Zwayne: And he went on to tell me, but the guy ended up hitting it big in this, in this oil thing, you know.
• 46:27
  Emeal Zwayne: But that's the temptation, because something else might come up.
• 46:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I could make money doing this.
• 46:33
  Emeal Zwayne: But that's where discipline comes in and you say I am made to do this, this is what I'm gonna focus on.
• 46:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I can't get distracted with the what ifs, but maybe this one, because then you end up being pulled away from what you're really called to do Parkour.
• 46:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, what's that?
• 46:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Someone talked about parkour recently Called to parkour, parkour, parkour, parkour, parkour.
• 46:52
  Emeal Zwayne: And Ray, let me just say what a blessing you've been in that you have truly stayed the course.
• 46:58
  Mark Spence: Yeah.
• 46:59
  Emeal Zwayne: You know what you're called to do and you do it, and you keep doing it.
• 47:03
  Mark Spence: One day you'll get it right, yeah Well there you have it, friends.
• 47:09
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• 47:17
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• 47:29
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• 47:32
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• 47:36
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• 47:37
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