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The All-Nighter | Valentine's Day 2026 Movie Marathons! · Critically Acclaimed Network

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hello everybody and welcome back to the all-nighter, oh yeah, welcome to the great all-nighter
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[SPEAKER_00]: just like in that movie Midnight Madness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sadly, this is not going to be a 12-hour scavenger hunt or running around Los Angeles with our mic, recording, you know, going to the Paps Blue Ribbon Brewery and all the rest.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that sounds fun.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've actually never seen Midnight Madness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You haven't seen Midnight Madness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I haven't seen it on Genesis delightful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I hope it made your own nighter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It did not, because it does, it's not in keeping with the theme.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: For those of you who may be new or maybe missed a episode in October, Whitney and I experimented with a new format last October called The All Nighter.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oftentimes when we do recommendations in sort of a dedicated format, it tends to think the form of a list, we have a monthly podcast called The Iron List, and which we talk about the best of a certain topic.
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[SPEAKER_05]: However, those aren't necessarily the only phones we want to recommend, and oftentimes we don't just want to talk about them sort of in a vacuum, we like to talk about how they interact with each other.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So the idea of the all-nighter is that, Whitney and I, for a particular occasion or particular topic,
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[SPEAKER_05]: programming as if we owned our own movie theater, a 12 hour or whatever if you didn't go 12 hours but that's what it went for.
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[SPEAKER_05]: A 12 hour marathon that is specifically programmed and curated around the theme.
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[SPEAKER_05]: These aren't necessarily the best movies you could possibly watch around this theme, but they should play well or interestingly together or at the very
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[SPEAKER_05]: make for a consistently entertaining all night evening of programming.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, you are encouraged, of course, if you have the time, you have the means, you have the interest and wherewithal, to schedule these yourself.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You can watch about home, enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Or you could just
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[SPEAKER_05]: take two of them as a double feature, or just with a couple of random suggestions, that's fine too.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I like this format because it gives us an opportunity to talk about films we otherwise might not in this particular format.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And who doesn't fantasize about owning their own movie theater and programming a slate?
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[SPEAKER_00]: People in our lines certainly do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be fearful because I'd get the movie theater and I feel like I'd run out of ideas within three months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm grateful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'd I'd be I'd run dry now or I'd go way too obscure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like we're gonna do an entire month of Hollywood films.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like no people I think the trick is to have a couple of ringers now and then yeah like I'm a big fan of a comic strip called the real
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[SPEAKER_05]: which is about a group of contemporary revolutionaries who took over their movie theater, the High Jack for the Criterium van, and they're trying to really push cinema back over the edge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very akin to the characters from Cecil B. Demented.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like extreme anti-Hollywood mindset.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But it's really, really fun.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's really, really cute.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's very thoughtful.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It actually is based on a lot of like Jenny when I like, when was the last comic strip you saw that like, quoted, braked.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So like, this is a cool strip.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But like, there's a bit in one of their earlier strips where they've just taken over the movie theater.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, yes, we're gonna show, whatever the hell we want.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're gonna show like experimental stand, brakage movies for 24 hours straight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But then the people like, no one's gonna pay to see those.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, we'll show the Kung Fu Panda films on weekends.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like at some point, at some point, this is your one for the audience.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You have to do one for the audience.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I think that's the trick.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's a trick too, and all nighter, as well.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You want to have a couple of films that are ringers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: People know love, latch on to, oh, I like this one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm comfortable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then after that, you can mess with their heads, throw something really weird at them, so something that they might think is bad, but if you look at it in context of the evening, you realize it has something going for, there's a lot of, there's lots of to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, it's really important to consider, and this is something I always put into mind when you're dealing with like an all-nighter at 12 hour block of programming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: what time is it when that film begins?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where are people at the in the evening?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if if anybody is in the theater at like 334 am either in for the long haul be they're tired
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[SPEAKER_00]: because they're up all night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've had as much coffee as their bodies can stand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll crash out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna crash out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're probably gonna rise open with toothpicks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You wanna keep them alert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't wanna give the slow movie wide birth at 330 in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That is the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't wanna give the really sort of head-y film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you,
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[SPEAKER_05]: break out something that's really crazy that's going to catch somebody's attention now this is interesting because when I pitched this idea because we knew we wanted to do another one of these at some point but when I pitched hey let's do what a Valentine's day people like to watch movies of Valentine's day usually romantic films that could be fun and Whitney immediately vetoed it because he didn't see the appeal it's like we will do this for Halloween because horror movies are very energetic they're really grab your attention and a lot of romances
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[SPEAKER_05]: When we think of romances, we tend to think of romantic dramas or romantic comedies, and there's definitely other romantic type movies out there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's romantic action movies, there's romantic horror movies.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But there is a tendency to think, oh, we're just going to watch nothing, but Meg Ryan movies, and that could get kind of same me after a while.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think you want to play to the fact that a romance does have different expectations.
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[SPEAKER_05]: than horror, people want to experience different things while watching those movies.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But you're right, we do need to keep their attention.
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[SPEAKER_05]: However, I don't think there is an argument to be made.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And hear me out here, people are coming to an all-night romance movie marathon.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I imagine people might step in and out, you know, people might come at midnight after they've had their dinner reservation or something, and just catch the second half of the program, and that's fine, too.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But they're going to a movie theater in the middle of the night on Valentine's Day.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's okay if they have something to make out and not make out against and not watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was considering dropping in some just legit porn, like a classic pornographic movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: one of the good ones with a story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, and that's not the same, but the only good one has a story, but there's not the only one to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something kooky from the 70s, that's in 3D.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that, but I figured that if I started down that path, there's no way to sort of reclaim the night up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, once you've gone hardcore for it, you can't do it well then I just then then Titanic Oh, and then I do another hardcore porn and by the end of the end of the night everybody's having an orgy Which that's a fun night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a fun night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You could do that But that's your half some of your whole theme at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like and and I didn't necessarily want to have an orgy in the theater
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I have a little bit more something a little bit more mainstream right now how we did this last time Was one person went through their entire program.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, because it doesn't really make sense to go back and forth because we're programming these things with a certain amount of care And then the other thing there's an add in a flow to the night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so if you go back and forth You're not going to understand the add in the flow and it's going to get lost.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So we're going to do all these one at a time
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[SPEAKER_05]: However, we haven't decided who's going to do it one at a time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I suggest we flip a coin, all right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So let me because I don't have any coins on me right now.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I will use my coins of flip a coin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Virtual coin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is a Susan B. Anthony Dollar.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I still have some Susan B. Anthony Dollar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have an Eisenhower Dollar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll buy some Tenia Lies in Howard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's worth it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's worth it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was not to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a cool coin has the liberty bell on the moon on the back and that's that's really cool.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That is cool All right, so Whitney, I want you to call it Which everyone you picked if you all right, oh, okay, okay, all right, all right, and It is tails.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you got to go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I will go first.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so It is Valentine's Day
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure how widely you celebrate Valentine's Day.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's technically a religious holiday, but I think it's been galopted enough, and everyone's just like, it's an excuse to make a night of it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've had a lot of really bad Valentine's days, sometimes because I was single.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes because I wasn't single, and we had a big plans, and then as we were leaving my apartment, I sprayed my ankle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That sucks.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh gosh.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That was a bad Valentine's day, I got it tell you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So Valentine's Day means a lot of things a lot of different people, but what I'm assuming is that people are coming to this either as a date night, or if they don't have a date to feel a sense of romance, to feel the experience of the relationship.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So the majority of my programming is based off of
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[SPEAKER_05]: the overall flow of a relationship.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, I have a little bit of fun right at the beginning, and then after that, we're going to go through the traditional, and I don't mean conservative.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I just mean beginning middle and end.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Of how relationships work.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, on that note, did you end with Michael Hanuky's and more?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_05]: on Valentine's Day.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's depressing enough as it is for some people.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So nothing here is, I think, depressing, although some of these might be ironic, some of these might be a little dark, but none of them are sad.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's an idea for that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You want to watch like, I don't know, like an affair to remember or there's a certain tragedy to that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's fine, but that's not where I went.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I wanted to start out for the people who are going to this at the beginning of their night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: with the magic of romance.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I wanted to think, I was thinking about fairy tales.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We think about a fairy tale romance.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Something a little supernatural nudging us in the direction of romance.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You might think of something like Disney films like Cinderella.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I picked a 1987 TV movie, Frog!
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[SPEAKER_05]: Frog which ends in an exclamation point not frogs the horror film.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Although there was a sequel to frog Would you have to say like that because there's an exclamation point.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes That was called frogs But I've never seen frogs, but it's not the worst in the horror movie frog.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I see the movie frogs.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The horror movie frogs by the way is unwatchable
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make any sense.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's slow and it's really boring in the Frogs or not.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not even just about Frogs.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's about all seven meters and bugs.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like a bunch of different nature goes nuts.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's really, really just totally fucking random.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Frog is a TV movie from 1987.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That is about a Frog Prince.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But it's a very cute, very sort of modern take on it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: uh... who is unlucky and love uh... and but he loves lizards and amphibians okay he just loves him he thinks they're great right why can't i get a girlfriend i don't know maybe because it brings salamanders to school who can set there's a there's a market for that in the dating market plays but they're not necessarily guaranteed to go to your school um... on his many misadventures acquiring
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[SPEAKER_05]: slimy things.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He encounters a large Italian frog.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's name I believe is Gus.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Who is an Italian prince and has been trapped in frog form for 300 years and that entire time he's never gotten anyone to kiss him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Poor guy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so this kid agrees to help find someone to kiss this frog and exchange for dating advice Because Gus has been around the block and also he's Italian.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of got it in him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of I forget I lost track of how many times in this movie Gus or someone on the town track Sings that's a moray When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a more egg.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't think that's how moons, pizza, or love works.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Kind of a confusing song if you really think about it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but this is a really charming film and I figure like if there's like young people going out to a movie theater and they want to see something that's a little, you know, chased, sweet innocent quirky, but this is on people not let people see this or at least they haven't had a long time because it isn't very readily available the way it was it used to air in TV a lot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I remember a lot of it very vividly, like Shelley DuVall plays his mom, that's always great and there's a whole day where they have to like, they find an entire pond full of frogs, they don't know which one to kiss, they're just guessing all these frogs.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's all very cute and charming.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think there should be one, especially with the beginning of the evening, that's like family friendly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like, so, you feel like parents with their kids.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Parents with their kids, or like, you know, junior high schoolers on their first date.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, that kind of thing, you know,
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[SPEAKER_05]: nothing, nothing to, nothing to, well, nothing to romantic.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then, but because also it's the beginning of the night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And for people who are making this their whole date experience, especially if people who might not stay the whole time, you have to follow that with a winner.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You have to, like, one headline attraction.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And for all, it's like, 60 minutes long.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're in an out, it's, it's cute, it's charming, you're done.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And now it's time for the main attraction, the thing that if you only stay for the main attraction, you've had a wonderful night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you have to pick, in my opinion, a perfect romance.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to be that is fun, funny, romantic, as characters you take seriously, a great cast.
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[SPEAKER_05]: time tested, and even though it's older, it still plays great today, and I can't think of any movie that fits that bill better than Roman holiday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, Roman holiday is pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Which fits also the Italian theme of Gus?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've paired them up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to continue with the Italian thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Not going to come with the Italian thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I could, obviously, but I decided not going, and I'm going to go into a slightly different double feature after this, and then I'm going to move into a sort of a long-gated program.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Roman holiday, if you've never seen Roman holiday.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you are in for a treat.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is one of the ultimate romantic comedies.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Audrey Hepburn, and not technically her first movie, but her first big role, plays a princess of fictional country, Banea.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There was a time when,
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you watch like a lot of hallmark movies or any sort of movie where like, uh, there's a prince in Europe, and they're single, it's like, okay, so it's a made up country because we know all the actual, we know what the whole series are.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and especially when like Jane Seymour plays their mom and you know, it's like technically England, but we can't do that because the British royalty's kind of fucked up, like, you know, we just can't really do it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So fictional country great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She's on a tour of Europe and like many a princess She's bored.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She's stifled.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She's not living her life She's got a lot of responsibility and even the stuff that is lavish comes Like it comes out or like a chore.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so in the middle of the night she breaks out of the palace
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[SPEAKER_05]: and tries to just have an adventure.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And she ends up wandering into the apartment of a struggling reporter played by Gregory Peck.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Gregory Peck is annoyed by this young woman who's a little, a little inebriated and sleeping in his bed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And nothing's happening.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's not an asshole.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's really more of an inconvenience than anything.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But he's like, I got to make sure that the camera says go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then he finds out she's a princess.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And he's like, I have got the story of a life that's just the story just fell in my lab.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like literally fell in my lab.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What am I going to do?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So his whole thing is he's going to pretend not to know she's a princess and take her out on the town.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's going to be the story.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And over the course of the day, they fall in love.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And now he has a moral dilemma.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do I tell the most wonderful story ever told?
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[SPEAKER_05]: or do I not betray her trust?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, respect her privacy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they are, there's a big age gap, but it's not like so, like, there are other movies in that era where Audrey Hepburn was paired up with Fred Astaire, who's way too old for her?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and she's paired with Gary Cooper, who is way way too old for her.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Gregory Peck is a relief in terms of how acceptable it is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And they're really cute together.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Gregory Peck has this very,
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[SPEAKER_05]: Very austere, very sensible and pragmatic kind of persona.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thanks, largely, to kill a mockingbird now, but he's always at it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He was the stern dad in the yearling.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why they hire him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's what he's got.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But here he gets to loosen up a little.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there is a playful element to him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He took his nose on this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That ends up like just
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[SPEAKER_05]: Striking off of Audrey Hepburns, extremely exuberant performance and just really just setting off sparks and It's great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's charming every scene is memorable and if you've ever liked a romantic comedy Roman holiday is one of the basis of the well a lot of the ones you like and it's still plays wonderfully It was made today it would be a head.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's so good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So
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[SPEAKER_05]: Roman holiday.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I do have a slight follow-up from Roman holiday that does have something to do Kind of with Italy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I am going to follow this with the short film
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, and Academy Award winning short film from 2010 called God of Love, you know what I was considering putting God of Love, God of Love God of Love is the line up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't have it, but yes, God of Love is a 18-minute short film from 2010 About a guy who was very unlucky in love the only thing he's good at is Darts and then one day he runs into He's like, hang on, pay attention to that detail.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, Darts A
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[SPEAKER_05]: He wants to, he, he's in love with this girl who's like in a band that he's in or like works at his bar, I can't remember specifically, and he comes into possession of magic darts.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And if he hits you with a dart, you'll fall in love.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And he tries to use this to woo this girl, but it never works.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It never works right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If it's something wrong with it, it goes bad, it goes wrong.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It never actually functions.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And,
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[SPEAKER_05]: what he realizes over the course of the short is he's using them wrong and how he ends up using them and what ends up happening to him ties into the title of the short and it's actually very charming and sweet and like that should be a little fucked up and creepy any sort of love potion story is kind of fucked up like you're overwriting someone's free will and force forcing them into a romantic or sexual situation with somebody that they're not necessarily attract exactly and here's about what's about learning that that's not that's not cool
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[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone's in a while.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll see like on a list online of like Great rom coms from the 90s or under rated rom coms.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone's in a while.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll see on those lists a movie called love potion number nine Starting date, Donovan and Sandra Bullock.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that movie is fucked up
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[SPEAKER_06]: That movie is not okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they spike each other at one point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, they don't, they, um, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the idea is they discover a love potion.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's got for love potion.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like an aerosol spray.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You spray it in your mouth, like your room's bang, like, you know, breath freshener or whatever, but not our, uh, primateen, um, whoever you speak to, who hears you, uh, will fall instantly in attraction with you, to the extent that you could take them home.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They both use it a lot on strangers, on random, they use it to get out of parking tickets, they use it to seduce people, like just randomly at the grocery store, and it's not okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So in the third act, when someone starts using it on Sandra Bullock and take Donovan, it's like, whoa, that's fucked up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, that's where you go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is trouble, motherfucker.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What are we even doing here?
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[SPEAKER_05]: This movie is twisted.
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[SPEAKER_05]: God, I love on the other hand, understands that you can't get a whole movie out of that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's really gross.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So this is really, really the cute version.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And on that note, I like the idea of a sort of divine intervention to create a love story.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And one of my favorite weird romances takes that, runs with it, adds like murder, kidnaping, there's a robot at some point, and I love it to pieces, and most people don't talk about it anymore, even though the director is now an Oscar winner, a lifeless ordinary.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a good choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fun flick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a funny boy or film.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was his big
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people were upset that it wasn't like train spotting, which was the film that really put Danny Boyle on the map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he followed that up with a bigger budget studio picture with Kevin Diaz.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so he started off with the small thriller very Hitchcockian called shallow grave, which is really, really creepy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's ours, you and Regger and Chris Eccleston, and I've got to figure out a way to turn that alert off on my laptop, which I found that got fixed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But now it's going bedding.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now it's going bedding all the time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I apologize for that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I digress.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Where was it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, life was ordinary.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so he's a shallow grave.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Then he did train spotting huge breakout film.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, massively important in Independence cinema in the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then after that, he decided to make another film with that same train spotting energy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But with
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[SPEAKER_05]: romance and humor and kind of a sweetness to it even though it's also kind of dark and fucked up So yeah, it's a kidnapping because it's a kidnapping story, but it's also Angels want these two to fall in love.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So basically two angels played by Oscar nominees Delroy Lindo.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry Oscar nominee Delroy Lindo and Oscar winner holly hunter.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's all right fucking awesome cast already
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[SPEAKER_05]: and there are angels, there are angels and there is sign by having to make these two people fall in love.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Cameron Diaz is the daughter of a billionaire who's cartoonishly evil, and she has been raised to be stuck up
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[SPEAKER_05]: questionably moral all that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You and McGregor plays like I think he's like a janitor but he's about to be replaced by a robot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So he loses it, takes the robot in his arms, throws it like into the guy's like office, and like holds up a gun trying to get his job back, and when that isn't working, Kennedy is like taking my hostage.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so he takes her hostage and that's the, that's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So they have to try to get those two to fall in love and in order to push that into that direction.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They figure, well, these people need conflict.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So Holly Hunter and Delroy Lindo go undercover as the hitman trying to kill them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: and they take it a little too seriously because they're really going for it after a while and it gets a little confusing as to who's side they're actually on, but this movie is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: just electric like every like scene is like full of like a weird manic energy to it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's got a musical number.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Humor Gregor and Cameron Diaz actually have really good chemistry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Holy hundred dollar lender, just super fucking weird.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Stanley Tucci is a bizarre character who I don't remember his character.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he was in love with Cameron Diaz and it leads to a William tell moment.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll tell you that right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really fucked up.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: because I had seen train spotting and like many people I was kind of blind spotted by train spotting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I knew about it was it's title and it just said smash comedy hit from Britain.
25:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like oh this is going to be like Monty Python it's going to be fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, boy was iron on and so I watched a lifeless ordinary when it came out on home video and Really being a stoichi how sort of bright and energetic it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really fizzy and light on its feet Yeah, it had a lot of these fun fantasy elements not just the angels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some periodically we cut to I think it's you and McGregor's heart Oh, yeah, it's like close-ups of his heart, but it's in this like sort of cartoon space and it's shaped like a Valentine
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you get some chest trauma, we see it from that perspective when he falls in love, we see it kind of throbbing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, this is a cartoon.
25:54
[SPEAKER_00]: This is pretty odd.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it feels like more of a progenitor of like you can, it's a clear straight line, I think, from a lifeless ordinary.
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[SPEAKER_05]: to slum dog millionaire then from train spotting to slum dog millionaire.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a that that sort of youthful verb that sense that love is real but the world is still fucked up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And somehow those two things are not incompatible.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's just got a really fun cast and like nobody talks about it anymore.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember the last time I saw this screening anywhere or had like a special edition release,
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a damn shame cuz it's a delight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, all right.
26:33
[SPEAKER_05]: So what what time is this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So at this point So this is over two films.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's over and I'm and I'm not being as strict with the timing as I was in my first Because last one I really put it down to the minute because I had a gag I wanted to do I'm not doing that Giving you a few minutes of break between movie By the time a lifeless ordinary is over It should be about I believe
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[SPEAKER_05]: About 1145 is okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So at this point.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, we're in the middle of the night because you've seen what two features There's a short and how many shorts of aren't just the two two shorts two shorts and two features two shorts two features Sorry three shorts two features is frog is it's a long shorts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna do another short and this is gonna set up a pattern We're gonna show from 1951 the 10-minute short What to do on a date?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I need to know what not to do.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What to do in a date is famously in Mystery Science Theatre 3,000.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's one of their comedy shorts that they've done.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It is a very, would you do the Mystery Science Theatre version or I could be talking to the short.
27:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I could be talking to that, but I'd like to just show the short.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's short.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And this is also, you can go to the bathroom and get concessions.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's okay.
27:52
[SPEAKER_05]: 10 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's very innocent and very ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's about.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What am I gonna do on a date?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How to do date things?
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a guy Don't they talk about like like a sock hop or you can sort of don't we take a girlfriend do a crab boil You know, whatever it's what's bizarre stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a guy and he has a crush on a girl in his school and Another guy is like oh, you should ask her out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I don't know if I could do that.
28:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, just ask her out.
28:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
28:21
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll ask her to remove me Hey, do you want to go see wagon train?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh
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[SPEAKER_06]: You've seen it one out of ideas.
28:31
[SPEAKER_06]: And the friend is like, you should take her to the rummage sale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, it's the rummage sale.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the guy's like, I don't want to go to a rummage sale.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't sound like a good date.
28:41
[SPEAKER_05]: But then he's like, he's out of ideas because he's the whole movie thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, he's out of the question.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So he's like, you want to go to a rummage sale?
28:48
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's like, I would kill to go to that rummage sale.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone's been talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Seriously, who do you want me to kill?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jennifer, you want me to kill Jennifer?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll kill Jennifer to go to that rumored sale.
28:58
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they go to rumored sale and they help run the rumored sale and it's the best thing ever.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then the guy is at the rumored sale like the town hall or whatever, and he sees the bulletin board and the bulletin board has a list of various things to do around town.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And he goes out there trying to say, you're not so smart.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You just looked at the bulletin board and got some ideas.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the guy's like,
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you can do that, so like why don't you do that like they're bike riding, they're like weenie roasts like you can just you could go do things.
29:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, like let's go to the Pandashoot.
29:35
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's no Pandashoot.
29:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, in theory this is actually pretty good advice is because it's basically like what should you do in a day?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do an activity.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Don't just go to see a movie and then not talk, which sounds heretical coming from a critic, but like, regardless, that's one thing you can do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you also do stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also a movie.
29:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You go to a movie with the hope that you're going to neck in the movie theater.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you don't like movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you're going to specifically to see the movie and watch the movie and talk about the movie, do that.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved, I read an interview with James Cameron and the one of my songs was, you know, what's your favorite movie to make out to?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, I didn't do that.
30:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I was too into the movie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe that with James Cameron.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What is the, what is the artist movie you've ever made out to?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because it's easy to make out to like, you know, like Titanic or something like with romance.
30:26
[SPEAKER_05]: And what's like the most completely random movie you ever made out to?
30:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I've been so many, but I can't test you on this.
30:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to be able to correct you if you're wrong.
30:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I started to see one of my girlfriends when I was in college out of state, and she was still back in Los Angeles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were friends from before I left, and we started to sort of have a spark to long distance thing, and we said, well, when I come back into town, we're going to want to make out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
30:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But we're also still living at home and our parents are home constantly and, you know, we're 18 now, but we don't want to do that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:00
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31:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, which is romance to be fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I didn't, couldn't tell you.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's not, that's not what we want.
31:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I personally don't think it's a very good romance, but yeah, no.
31:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't tell you a lot about the English patient because that we didn't go to see the movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We went there to do some heavy padding and we did that in the background.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that was that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By following girlfriend,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I told her that story, just kind, is so amusing, you know, we went to this long movie just so we could make out.
31:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Walk a walk and she said, and she asked, well, movie I said the English patient, she said, you did that wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna watch the English patient, you and I, and you're not allowed to touch me.
31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh god, like she's not a couch.
31:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a hardcore English patient fan of ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anytime I tried to like put my arm around her, snuggles her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope, nope, movie pay attention.
32:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, I ended up seeing the English patient.
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[SPEAKER_00]: rather strictly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I, I have seen the English patient multiple times.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I saw the first time on purpose and the other two times.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I, I, I, I, and this is a hundred percent true.
32:15
[SPEAKER_05]: I lost a bet.
32:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not a big fan.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I will tell you this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I, while I don't normally neck through movies.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've next through review.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
32:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Audist one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: a civil action, it's a weird one.
32:30
[SPEAKER_05]: It is a weird one.
32:31
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a very, it's a very grim legal thriller starring John Gibraltar and Robert DuVall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did end up taking a date to a movie and we ended up necking a little bit, but we watched most of the movie and it was mad city.
32:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh John Gibraltar.
32:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, John Gibraltar.
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: John Gibraltar.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: John Gibraltar.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: John Gibraltar.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you sound soful actions, I remind of me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: 90s era John Gibraltar.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Just the secret to love.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Turned everybody on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
32:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, so now that you know what to do on a date, you should watch a movie about a first date.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so is it 50 first date?
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[SPEAKER_05]: It is not 50 first dates.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That would be a movie about 50 first dates.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Also that movie is also questionable ethical.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go instead because it's where I'm at night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
33:14
[SPEAKER_05]: It's time to get everyone's attention, get him back in the game, get him up.
33:19
[SPEAKER_05]: We are gonna go with heart eyes, a slasher I really liked from last year.
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all right, they're making it, and they're making a sequel to the sequel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's gonna happen here, so that's all right.
33:27
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all right, too.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: The first one was just successful enough.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we'll good for them.
33:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Heart eyes is directed, I don't know if it's written by it was directed by Josh Rubin.
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[SPEAKER_05]: who also did werewolves within.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's also a regular contributor on dropout.
33:40
[SPEAKER_05]: He's on make some noise a lot and it is a really good, I know what any likes of lesson I do, but I'm going to stand up for it.
33:48
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a really, really good mash-up of rom-coms and slasher.
33:52
[SPEAKER_05]: The idea is there's a slasher who wears a mask with hearts over the eyes, like the heart eyes emoticon.
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[SPEAKER_05]: something about this killer's past or motive or whatever makes them really hate couples and want them to suffer.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So after an opening kill of people who are murdered right after they get engaged, we are introduced to our protagonists.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a young woman who works at, I believe, an advertising company, and she's really hoping to get the big job, and then she meets a really attractive guy at a coffee shop.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh man, we thought they were going to get together and now they're rivals, this sucks.
34:40
[SPEAKER_05]: So they're competing now and they decide to go out for a business dinner to talk about the project, he's really into her and he's open to admitting that she hates his guts because of the whole rivalry thing, but right outside the restaurant, they run into her ex-boyfriend and she pulls the classic
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's just pretend to be my boyfriend, move.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So they pretend to be boyfriend girlfriend, they kiss, heart eyes, seize them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And now they have disbanded the entire night on the run from a serial killer because he thinks they're boyfriend and girlfriend.
35:12
[SPEAKER_05]: And by spending that much time together in a wacky situation, they end up falling for each other.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's fucking genius.
35:20
[SPEAKER_05]: And sure enough, it works as a really, really good like B plus slasher, not a brilliant slasher, just B plus does the formula, does it right, memorable kills, good pacing, kind of gory, it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then what time of the night is this?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Not midnight.
35:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
35:38
[SPEAKER_05]: And then it also works as a B plus rom-com.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
35:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Where it hits all the formulas, the cast is charming, they bigger a lot, they're going to get back together, it works it's great.
35:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so I think it's fun, and I think it's got energy.
35:54
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36:17
[SPEAKER_05]: We're still in the dating phase of the evening.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We are going to kick things up and notch.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because heart eyes, although it is a slasher movie, the romance is a little chased.
36:29
[SPEAKER_05]: What if the dating goes well?
36:31
[SPEAKER_05]: What are you going to do then?
36:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, at that point, you're going to have what we like to call a booty call.
36:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, booty call.
36:39
[SPEAKER_00]: booty call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the the the quest for condoms.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, a classic rom com from 1997 starring Tommy Davidson and Jamie Fox from in Living Color.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: David's and great by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always great.
36:54
[SPEAKER_05]: I was always bummed he never had a bigger movie career.
36:57
[SPEAKER_05]: He just made like a couple of choices that ended up not really going anywhere and didn't have the big success other people did, but Tommy Davidson has a girlfriend.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's been dating her for a while, but they've never sealed the deal.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: They have a lot of sex.
37:09
[SPEAKER_05]: They haven't had sex.
37:10
[SPEAKER_05]: They're going, things are going great.
37:12
[SPEAKER_05]: They haven't had sex yet.
37:13
[SPEAKER_05]: It feels like tonight might be the night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But she's a little gun shy about that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She said bad experiences before.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She wants to make sure she doesn't rush into that.
37:23
[SPEAKER_05]: And so she has a friend with her to basically cool the evening down a bit.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So he has to find the date for that friend.
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[SPEAKER_05]: His date is Jamie Fox.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Jamie Fox is the wacky one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Turns out, he and the other girlfriend, this way, by Zivika Fox, hit it off great.
37:42
[SPEAKER_05]: And it ends up being a really successful double date.
37:46
[SPEAKER_05]: And now, since those two people like live across the hall for me, each other in an apartment complex, they're both in the same floor of the apartment complex, things are both going great.
37:54
[SPEAKER_05]: And then, right when they sort of like, oh, let's see it tomorrow, that kind of thing and they go off.
37:58
[SPEAKER_05]: And then, all of a sudden, it's like, you have condoms, right?
38:02
[SPEAKER_05]: And time again, it was like,
38:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, no, and she's like, well, you gotta get condoms.
38:07
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's like, oh, man, your friend has condoms, right?
38:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
38:11
[SPEAKER_05]: So they call him and he doesn't either.
38:13
[SPEAKER_05]: And so now they have to stop everything and venture out into the night, middle of the night, around the time that I've, it's scheduled this movie to go get condoms.
38:25
[SPEAKER_05]: They go out once, they have a horrible misadventure, and then they come back, and they got their wrong kind of condoms.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So now they have to go back out again.
38:34
[SPEAKER_05]: They run into their local preacher, played by Bernie Mac.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's not going great.
38:41
[SPEAKER_05]: They have a horrible misadventure.
38:42
[SPEAKER_05]: They come back, oh shit.
38:44
[SPEAKER_05]: We didn't get dental damn.
38:47
[SPEAKER_05]: And it just keeps happening over and over and over again.
38:51
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's in the pursuit of safe sex, which is good.
38:54
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was going to say this came at a time when sexual health was a much more openly frank concern among the public.
39:03
[SPEAKER_05]: There was a lot more, there was a lot more open fear about it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Real, like you need to, which you still do, but like it was like, we're still learning this lesson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like a lot of that was trying to make good for all of the neglect that was going on around HIV and AIDS in the Reagan administration.
39:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
39:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And how the Reagan administration kind of let it flourish because they're evil assholes.
39:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like in the 90s you would see a lot of, um, uh, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: public health and sexual health billboards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
39:38
[SPEAKER_00]: They tried to come up with cute slogans about using condoms.
39:41
[SPEAKER_05]: We still have those, by the way, every once in a while.
39:43
[SPEAKER_05]: But at the time, they were like new and they were very in your face.
39:47
[SPEAKER_05]: And incredibly frank, and I appreciate it.
39:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, same.
39:50
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think our generation learned that lesson.
39:52
[SPEAKER_05]: But there was a, there was a, there was a,
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[SPEAKER_05]: I hesitate to say concern, but there was sort of an awareness that we have been playing really fast and loose with safe sex as it is portrayed in movies.
40:07
[SPEAKER_05]: We've some talk about it.
40:09
[SPEAKER_06]: We may assume that Jay's bond is wearing a condom.
40:12
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't actually know, so we watch some details of the sex act where usually part of a montage.
40:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're not seeing the entire sex act from beginning to end.
40:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
40:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Including all the awkward bits or the parts where people talk.
40:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, hey, how many sexual partners have you had when was the last time it was a test day?
40:31
[SPEAKER_05]: What was the last time you got tested?
40:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Et cetera.
40:33
[SPEAKER_05]: These are questions you should ask.
40:36
[SPEAKER_05]: What are your boundaries?
40:37
[SPEAKER_05]: That kind of thing.
40:38
[SPEAKER_05]: These are questions you should ask.
40:39
[SPEAKER_05]: They're not necessarily the most comfortable questions to ask, but you're going to feel a lot more comfortable afterwards.
40:44
[SPEAKER_05]: And now that you're on the same page and you know stuff.
40:48
[SPEAKER_05]: So the idea was like, is interrupting a romantic scene to have these conversations going to be anti-climactic, no pun intended, or bad drama or whatever.
41:03
[SPEAKER_05]: And booty call was like, we can mind that for comedy.
41:07
[SPEAKER_05]: That we are constantly interrupting, hot and heavy, excellent date.
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[SPEAKER_05]: to be safe and responsible, but you got to do it quick before the mood wears off.
41:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
41:18
[SPEAKER_05]: So there's a bit of a ticking clap going on.
41:20
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's funny.
41:22
[SPEAKER_05]: It manages to be crunchy and responsible at the same time.
41:26
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's a really weak.
41:27
[SPEAKER_05]: You'd balance the strike and I remember when booty call came out and nobody thought booty call was going to be much of anything Well, it's called booty call.
41:35
[SPEAKER_05]: It was silly tie like a big deal But on the on the on the poster like we all knew who the target demo was for this Slee guys some of people who like but yeah exactly, which is like blood, but like but like all right But I remember like when this movie came out like every critic I read was like
41:54
[SPEAKER_05]: actually this is really good like you might think it's just it's just periance leaves or just easy jokes it's actually smart it's actually responsible the cast is really good this is a good comedy and everybody he was just going to eat but we're like I don't know yeah it's good I don't know who to write anything could be good anyway so booty call is a fun pick and I think it's a good pick of it time leaving we're gonna follow that this could be a bathroom break this could be a concessions break
42:25
[SPEAKER_05]: You could watch this in earnest, but along the lines of what's it going to date, we're going to follow a booty call with, are you ready for marriage?
42:35
[SPEAKER_05]: It's another mystery scienceator.
42:36
[SPEAKER_05]: It's another mystery scienceator, 3,000 shorts from 1950, and we can watch it with or without the MST3K.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm fine with either.
42:43
[SPEAKER_05]: But the idea of where are you ready for marriage is there are these two young people, and they have fallen in love.
42:48
[SPEAKER_05]: and they want to get married, but they're like freshman in college.
42:54
[SPEAKER_05]: And everyone around them's like, the little soon, don't you think?
42:56
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's, I know it's 1950, but like, it's a little soon.
43:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you're not going to war tomorrow.
43:03
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we can maybe, you can slow walk this a little, but every time someone tells them, maybe you're rushing into it, that just makes them more and more confident that they need to get married now and allow them.
43:13
[SPEAKER_05]: And finally, someone convinces them to talk to,
43:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Like a romance counselor, a guy who specializes in romantic health or whatever, and this could be actually a lot more condescending than it is, because his advice isn't actually terrible.
43:32
[SPEAKER_05]: It's presented in a condescending way, but the advice is actually semi-reasonable.
43:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, have you talked about your religious values?
43:42
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe you haven't.
43:43
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe you should see if those are compatible before you end up in a long-term relationship with someone and You're kind of not an agreement on that stuff.
43:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I just figured we'd worship at the church of Zoroaster.
43:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly like you should probably have that talk
43:57
[SPEAKER_05]: What are you gonna do for money?
43:59
[SPEAKER_05]: How are you gonna are you actually planning for your future?
44:02
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's like, well, I was gonna quit to be a homemaker.
44:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, maybe you wait a couple of years.
44:07
[SPEAKER_05]: You both have a college education.
44:08
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you could have a better financial plan.
44:12
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, all of these things are not unreasonable.
44:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
44:18
[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of a wet blanket over the romance, but it is not unreasonable.
44:22
[SPEAKER_05]: And on that note,
44:24
[SPEAKER_05]: Since we are talking about marriage, we dated, we had our booty call, we found out if we were ready for marriage.
44:30
[SPEAKER_05]: It is now time.
44:32
[SPEAKER_05]: for Bride of Chucky.
44:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yay!
44:35
[SPEAKER_05]: What time is it?
44:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it might have gotten the timing wrong about this, but I have this ring down is about 230, it might be closer to three.
44:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, but so this is late at night.
44:45
[SPEAKER_05]: We need to pick me up.
44:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we need to pick me up.
44:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Some of the, some of the gradients.
44:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Bride of Chucky is so good.
44:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Bride of Chucky is good, and I wanted to think of a movie that was about marriage.
44:55
[SPEAKER_05]: or a wedding at least, that was fun, but wasn't just, you know, go into the chat, but like, what's got a little extra verb to it?
45:07
[SPEAKER_05]: And I thought about ready or not, but that's kind of a grim view of romance.
45:11
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, the hero is in a wedding dress, killing people all night, great movie, not a great Valentine's Day movie.
45:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I didn't pick something like a pride of Chucky, because it's not very positive about the world.
45:22
[SPEAKER_05]: But here's the thing though, and this is the reason why I did pick pride of Chucky.
45:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Because, unlike say, Brighta Frankenstein, where the Brighta Frankenstein A only shows up in the last couple of minutes of the movie and B rejects the Frankenstein monster.
45:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
45:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Chuckie and Tiffany are into each other.
45:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
45:38
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not a healthy relationship, but they're into each other.
45:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually they're into each other.
45:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Their relationship starts very antagonistically.
45:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, at the beginning, because she, if you recall on the story, Tiffany was into Charles Lee Ray before he, his soul was put into the doll.
45:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I thought, weren't they actually lovers before then?
45:58
[SPEAKER_00]: No, she was just a fan.
46:01
[SPEAKER_00]: She would know that they kind of dated, but he had no feelings for her.
46:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And she had felt like a ring in his possession, assuming that he was going to propose.
46:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
46:10
[SPEAKER_00]: When really he had just stolen it off of somebody and was going to hockey.
46:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what made her really, really mad.
46:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what caused her to lock him up in a playpan and start torturing him.
46:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And which was what caused him to break out and murder her and force her soul into a doll out of spite.
46:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not a very romantic move.
46:31
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, I'm not saying it's a romantic move, but what I am saying is that they are in their own twisted way, they're into each other.
46:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Because once they are both dolls, they have fun being killer dolls.
46:45
[SPEAKER_05]: they have a sex scene and it goes on for a while like it becomes actually kind of like sort of a california natural born killers kind of thing where it's about like two lovers serial killers on the run but the thing is is that they are hiding out in the back of a van owned by two other young lovers who are on the run one of them was played by Katherine Higel yeah
47:10
[SPEAKER_05]: And these two people, they're just like, oh, my dad didn't approve of our love, we're gonna like a loper, whatever.
47:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like seniors in high school.
47:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:18
[SPEAKER_05]: They're young, but like, you know, they just, we, we were just running away together.
47:20
[SPEAKER_05]: We were into each other, everyone says we should break up.
47:22
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't want to.
47:23
[SPEAKER_05]: We should have talked to that romance guy.
47:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and, uh, there's a couple of killer dolls killing at people everywhere they go.
47:30
[SPEAKER_05]: So they get accidentally framed for all these murders, and everyone thinks they're Mickey and Mallory Knox.
47:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so they actually have a pretty pure love story going.
47:39
[UNKNOWN]: Mm.
47:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Jackie Antiphany have a very dark twisted 90s r-rated serial killer movie love story going and I knew multiple people in my high school when I was a kid who watched stuff like natural born killers and was just like
47:52
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I don't approve of everything they do, but they got something going.
47:58
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, their love seems true.
48:00
[SPEAKER_05]: That kind of thing was kind of weird, probably not healthy.
48:04
[SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, it's, it's right to by Ronnie you, Ronnie you, brings so much fucking energy to this movie.
48:09
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's super stylish.
48:10
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's really funny.
48:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's genuinely 100% funny.
48:15
[SPEAKER_05]: I've come around to liking the follow-up seat of Chuck E. More even though I don't think it's as good, but Brad and Chuck E is a treat.
48:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so what time is it now this point?
48:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I definitely I definitely wrote down some of these times wrong at this point.
48:31
[SPEAKER_05]: I think
48:34
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to say it's like three or four.
48:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I fucked this up.
48:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I think I went one movie over long.
48:39
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just going to do the whole thing.
48:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll speed this up.
48:42
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to follow this with a short called once upon a honeymoon.
48:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Also, I missed E3K that is about married couple who've been trying to go on their honeymoon for a long time.
48:52
[SPEAKER_05]: But he is an ad-jingle songwriter.
48:55
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm thinking, no, until he writes their jingle.
48:59
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a really awful short.
49:00
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a really odd short.
49:01
[SPEAKER_05]: But the music isn't half bad.
49:03
[SPEAKER_05]: So like she's like in the kitchen.
49:05
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just like, ah, and he has to write a jingle for like a refrigerator or something.
49:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like just hold the appliances.
49:11
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's like imagining a kitchen with the perfect amount of appliances, which of course were provided by the people who beg for the short.
49:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
49:18
[SPEAKER_05]: And so she's like trying to come up with the perfect song about all the products she'd like to purchase is terrible.
49:25
[SPEAKER_05]: But now that the honeymoon is over,
49:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna throw in a weird one.
49:29
[SPEAKER_05]: This is the kind of movie.
49:31
[SPEAKER_05]: We might be winding down energy-wise It's okay, maybe you're snuggling up if I'll sleep to this one But if you're paying attention, you're gonna see a weird fucking movie nobody talks about any more Addicted to love with Matthew Broderick and Meg Ryan.
49:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Is that it's weird?
49:44
[SPEAKER_05]: You ever see that movie?
49:45
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah
49:46
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a movie about two stalkers who fall in love with each other.
49:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're stalking their respective exes and started dating.
49:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
49:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're both obsessed with their respective exes.
49:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So they start stalking them as a unit.
49:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, but like, not like in like, Oh, like a spying.
50:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Like a creepy person stuff.
50:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Like Matthew Broderick's girlfriend or wife whenever leaves him.
50:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Meg Ryan's boyfriend leaves her for his ex and then he's playing against type.
50:14
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like a really like Goth grumpy kind of a kid.
50:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and she's good at it, but like this was this was a little odd and this is really didn't do great I think because of it Matthew Broderick is like
50:24
[SPEAKER_05]: literally just bought an apartment across the street from his ex to like spy on them or whatever and like this is completely unwholesome it's probably gonna end in someone dying and Meg Ryan finds out about that and she starts spying on him with them they ended up getting like really invasive and trying to destroy their relationship and as they're destroying the relationship of these two people who yeah broke their hearts but they really did fall for each other
50:49
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's like, I'm sorry.
50:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't work out.
50:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I met someone else.
50:52
[SPEAKER_05]: We're perfect for each other.
50:53
[SPEAKER_05]: This sucks.
50:55
[SPEAKER_05]: My bad.
50:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, they're not like evil people who deserve vengeance.
51:00
[SPEAKER_05]: They just broke your heart.
51:02
[SPEAKER_05]: It sucks.
51:02
[SPEAKER_05]: And these people are terrible.
51:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Matthew brother is terrible.
51:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Meg Ryan is worse.
51:09
[SPEAKER_05]: And these terrible people find each other over the course of being increasingly terrible people and enabling each other's worst tendencies.
51:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I find that weirdly charming in a somewhat unhealthy way.
51:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the movie is aware of that, but because it's in this 90s Meg Ryan mold, it can't help but be kind of approving.
51:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
51:31
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's kind of fun when it's just kind of weird.
51:32
[SPEAKER_05]: And then lastly, we had the breakup, but we can't end on that.
51:39
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
51:40
[SPEAKER_05]: We can't end on a tragic breakup stocker situation.
51:48
[SPEAKER_05]: called Comedy of Remarriage where people were together and then they broke up and then they're going to get back together.
51:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Classic example of this might be his girlfriend or the awful truth.
52:00
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think a great movie to end this on where we're going to end it with a little bit of energy, a little bit of excitement.
52:09
[SPEAKER_05]: but also really great chemistry between the two leads.
52:14
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's gonna be about divorced or divorcing couple who decide not to get divorced.
52:20
[SPEAKER_05]: It is, of course, Twister.
52:23
[SPEAKER_05]: We're gonna end with Twister.
52:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
52:26
[SPEAKER_00]: On the way out, you gotta give them some amazing.
52:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Give them some amazing, right?
52:29
[SPEAKER_05]: And this is the one that's like, it's like, you're about to leave, like, I don't know, man, that digs into the love one, I'm very good, I'm at, oh, you're so Twister.
52:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll just watch for Twister.
52:37
[SPEAKER_05]: That sounds fucking badass.
52:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Um...
52:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I love the, I love the weird journey Twister took where it was like, saying it's not a particularly good summer event movie, like great special effects and I wouldn't pretend it otherwise.
52:51
[SPEAKER_05]: But just like, you know, it didn't have much of a plot or nothing.
52:54
[SPEAKER_05]: And then years later, everyone's like, you know what's great about Twister?
52:59
[SPEAKER_05]: It didn't have much of a plot or nothing.
53:02
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just, but no, not really.
53:03
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the compared to a lot of other stuff.
53:05
[SPEAKER_05]: All known.
53:05
[SPEAKER_05]: But no one's like weaponized the Twisters and are trying to kill anybody.
53:09
[SPEAKER_05]: It's about,
53:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, I study tornadoes.
53:12
[SPEAKER_05]: We're running around trying to find them.
53:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's my crew of really interesting character actors like Philipsy, more Hoffman, and Alan Rock.
53:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then Bill Paxons like yeah, I was going to get divorced from you Helen Hind, and I'm going to leave the tornado hunting game and she's like yeah, I don't have time for this I'm hunting tornadoes and he's like well, I guess I'll just follow you and have a bunch of banter Oh, and then the twisters are really cool.
53:35
[SPEAKER_05]: There's some fun action sequences There's a great bit and a drive in movie theater with the shining where we're where Jack Nichols say It's like tearing away a door with an axe as a twister is tearing away the screen
53:47
[SPEAKER_05]: which is really cool, by the way.
53:49
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a really fun bit, and of course, Bill Paxon and Helen Hunt get together at the end.
53:55
[SPEAKER_05]: At the end, it's like, skies are clear.
53:58
[SPEAKER_05]: We've just had this huge tornado experience.
53:59
[SPEAKER_05]: We've all been through something together, and at that point, you're going to walk out into the world, and it's going to be exact that time of day.
54:05
[SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be brightened sunny out, and it's going to be great.
54:09
[SPEAKER_05]: What I will say is that I came up with this whole schedule
54:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.
54:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So the timing is off.
54:20
[SPEAKER_00]: A bit of a roller coaster you're taking us on.
54:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's that is part of the idea.
54:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
54:24
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
54:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's it's a little all over the place.
54:28
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I like to plan this out better.
54:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm pretty sure I got the timing wrong and this is ended up being like a 14 hour marathon set of a 12 hour one and that's that's me just being bad at math and not having time to really check my work.
54:39
[SPEAKER_05]: I also realized that in my
54:47
[SPEAKER_05]: This is not a very queer list.
54:49
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm actually really bummed out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: My original plan, I was going to try and include pillion, which is a brand new queer, BDSM romance movie, which is fucking great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I had toyed with the idea of starting off with Portrait of the Lady on fire.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of great queer romances out there and somehow by accident, I swear to God, it was an accident.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I ended up not really having much of that here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that is a detriment.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That doesn't mean you fucking up, but other than that, yeah, that's what I got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will include some of my runners up because I actually had a lot of good ideas.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I had a few, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the ones I ended up going with were just the ones I ended up going with.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay, so on that note, that is my real real fast, just, I'll burn through it at the end.
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[SPEAKER_05]: At the end of the podcast, we'll talk through our entire schedule so you can remember all the rest.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that is my all nighter.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Wait, what's your all nighter?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good all nighter.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of weird, but this is kind of a weird premise.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I do do this for Valentine's Day, so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did time mine out pretty carefully because I wanted to have like breaks throughout the night as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't have an all-nighter without like periodic breaks people are gonna need to get up and use the bathroom You're gonna get up and use your get popcorn get coffee really want them to get concessions I am part of where your money's coming from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking should I put champagne at the concessions time?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought no, I want them to stay awake Drought all this evening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want necessarily want them to be maybe even have it like at midnight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you made it to midnight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're a champagne You know
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, or or first thing in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I had everybody in Mamosa Yeah, so mine goes from 7 p.m. To 659 a.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The following morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't quite make it to 7 and press it though, but I did time it out to the minute
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I normally I would have we came up with this premise kind of last minute and I had other stuff on my plate, and I didn't do a great job So I'm very curious because this sounds awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you guys like so and just like with my With my Halloween marathon I paired each of the films in my list and I've one two three four five six of them with a short okay So you're we're gonna start right at seven p.m. with a short with a one of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: More romantic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's actually a very troublesome animated short for sent-imental reasons, which 48 with Pepe-la-pue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Pepe-la-pue was Pilari, he was sort of struck from a lot of the old looney tunes because He was clearly trying to be amorous with an unwilling cat partner
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it was an animated short in the way that didn't have any come up in so many guys Oh, we're not quite often he got us come up in so there was the one where the The cat turned the tables on
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but there's always a cat in the Pepe Lepu cartoons that for some contrived reason brushes up against a painted wall, perhaps.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And now has a white stripe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now has a white stripe down her back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also somehow get stinky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's only sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Pepe Lepu, the amorous French skunk, finds that, oh, that was there's an attractive female skunk that I can come onto.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not understanding this is a cat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and also
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he is a skunk, he smells very bad, which is the main reason why all anybody wants to stay away from the skunk.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that he walks through and people run and, you know, flee and harm.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And he is fully capable of not being a skunk.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Has zero interest because of how repellent that is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: One thing I've always wondered about Pepa Lepio.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you think?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then let's give Pepa Lepio for the sake of argument, like a little credit.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe he's not the monster he's made out to be, maybe the seller, or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But this is an intellectual exercise.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you think Skunk women love him?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you think he's got really good success ratio with Skunk women who are like super into him?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ah, because he's modeled off of like Maurice Chivalier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Maurice Chivalier was famously, you know, that his movie persona was sexy French man who gets every lady because they love him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The flirt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's successful flirt and everyone's super into him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If he just, and he's only going after scum.
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[SPEAKER_05]: See, thinks he's going after a scum.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a misunderstanding.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I just wonder if other scunks see him as a sliezer not.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm, I wonder.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you think other scunks are not into him normally?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Or do you think this act actually works?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we're to consider tiny tuna ventures as part of this canon, then we know that female scunks are equally amorous because we have female fume.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she does the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So perhaps, if he actually did find a female scunk, they would go at it like gasoline in a match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it would just be bad for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Electric for them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just a happens to go after a cat and that's his own mistake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his own humor.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And in fact, for a sense, he doesn't take no for an answer, which is the real problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and for sentimental reasons, however, is the one where he does get his come up on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one where the cat locks him in a room and starts chasing after him and he gets really freaked out because he hasn't experienced that from the other end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the cartoon ends with the cat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Having gone through a pretty
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rattie and like I'll beaten up now just sort of leaping like Prancing the same way he does after him as he phased down the street and he's just like I Didn't realize this was so unpleasant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it actually does come around It's a romantic cartoon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about being in love And it's about us not being able to pick up on signals.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Little problematic still but fair enough classic classic loony.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a classic.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's also funny.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no and that's it's
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, it's such as just in terms of like it's unfortunate that these things were made problematic lately because a lot of talent went into them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a beautifully animated cartoons and I totally get it if you don't ever want to see a Peppa LePue cartoon again.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I totally get it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I totally understand if speedy Gonzalez is like, it's a racist caricature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he's a hero but he still erases caricature in a lot of ways like other nice in that then the shorts are portrayed in a very negative way and this is just anecdotal but i you know i live in Los Angeles practically in Mexico i know a lot of people who are from Mexico and from you know various countries in Latin America and you know literally they see speedy as a hero
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[SPEAKER_05]: The people that I've talked to.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I understand, but my point is I understand if you don't see it that way.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's perfectly valid take.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But there's certain complexity there and not everyone agrees.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, but anyway, interesting choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is your next?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the first, so that's at 7 p.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So at 7.07, once that short is over, I'm going to start with a big, frothy, fun romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the only time I'm going to go to Shakespeare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of my favorites.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's much to do about nothing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Kenneth Brandt.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Kenneth Brandt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, kind of brought us much to do about nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've talked about it a lot because it is so great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is so frothy and fun and light And that takes a lot of the cues from Shakespeare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: if you read the text of much to do about nothing, it's light to a fault.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, Brana wisely cuts a scene where two characters are told about hero, the young heroine of the character of the piece, is dead, and they make jokes about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the mood's a little off in that scene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's cut that from the movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually want to take the death part seriously in the film.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And honestly, hero actually isn't even in it that much to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, in fact, more of a. Claudio and hero, um, I've heard referred to as just the breeding couple.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They're, they're, they're, they'd be the protagonist, but not there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their, their marriage and happiness is what the plot is constructed around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're not here to see them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here to see Beatrice and Benedict.
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[SPEAKER_00]: who in this movie are played by Emma Thompson and Kenoprana, who are an item at the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they had dated previously, they hate each other now, but everybody knows they're just perfect for each other because they just have the same exact kind of wit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they like to banter with one another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the plot of much do is these soldiers come back from the war Beatrice and Benedict hate each other, but everybody around them say we know they're perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's set up a scheme to make them think that they're in love with each other so we can kind of force them into each other's arms and they actually are.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so we're really just sort of
1:03:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Speeding this along because Benedict actually does love Beatrice, but they've become so bicker some that he won't ever admit it And vice versa, so there was a series of proud through a series of whoops?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I dropped my love letter situations.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They both become convinced the other one is love with them, but they're both confused Yeah, and it's
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[SPEAKER_05]: Brana and Thompson at the absolute top of their game top of their game.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They're so funny and so unbelievably sexy Everybody's sexy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's pretty sexy on this man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Blessed is oozing sex Of course he's his brand blessed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's Brian bless it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I don't even know why you bring that We're Richard Brears the old man is still like a meldestontin I'm all to be really horny and sexy And doesn't usually I'm all the stontin has a great bit right at the beginning where
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[SPEAKER_00]: They the women and all of these people who are just and it this is like luxury porn Everybody sitting around in these white frocks on blankets in the Italian son and they're reading each other Poetry on a villa drinking wine on a villa and it's like oh, and the soldiers are coming home from war Well fuck let now let's let the fun begin So they leave their blankets and they go like there's a bath sequence where everybody's getting ready
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'll just don't everyone, everyone bathe your boobs.
1:04:47
[SPEAKER_06]: You're gonna need them soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But um, I'll just don't and like gets gets ready and she puts on her again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She like squeezes into a corset and boobs are popping out and she like powders her chest because she knows people are looking at her boobs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Holds up a mirror, but not your face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She just looks at her boobs in the mirror.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Put it down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yeah, it's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, we start and yeah, and it ends really, really bright, it's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just such a pleasant movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great way to cook off this evening of romance.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a very, very happy, horny, beautifully photographed, wonderful score.
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[SPEAKER_05]: of a movie, you will be forced to watch Keanu Reeves try to do Shakespeare for a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which he's legit bad in that movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets it like a genuinely bad performance.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's just, he just doesn't have the ear for it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not his wheelhouse.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Bless him for trying, they should have recast.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's way off.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So he's not in it much.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He only has like two scenes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not in it much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of the villainy character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he just has to go out a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what, when you look at it, there's like a kind of camp appeal to watching Keanu Reeves try to chew through Shakespeare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just, he's just, he's just off.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's just a one weird performance of just some, he's just in the wrong movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have all of these wonderful sides with the Michael Cheaton character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, the god Michael Gives funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like,
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's so drunk he falls asleep while giving instructions and then breaks wins to wake himself up like it's so disgusting Here's here's the deal Michael Keaton and much to do about nothing is playing the die who the guy who died and became Beetlejuice very much Yeah, like if we didn't know his origin because we do it now after Beetlejuice Beetlejuice that would be a perfectly acceptable head cannon
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that should have been in Bill Gisbee.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That would have been fun, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked to his life and it's just clips from much ado.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That would be very funny.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think most people would get that, but it would be very fun.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I would have, I would have loved it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I think it would have been a weird, a lot of people would have been very confused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So after the fur, I'm in between each of these, like I'm going to do short feature break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And short break is only going to be four minutes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a very short break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, so I got a line up for concessions, you know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I guess if you miss a short, it's not going to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You miss a short, or there's, you know, credits after each one of these.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's pretty much the lights up people have over a few minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to keep the evening going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you put a really long break, kills it dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't have a 15 minute break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think 10 is the maximum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just keep those breaks as short as possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Four minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that means 707 and ends at 857, which means the next short begins at 901 PM.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:07:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to do the, if I can get a film of this and I can project it on a screen and the Valentine special of the teen girl squad from homestarrunner.com.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've actually never seen this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the problem with describing homestarrunner is that it's like in jokes upon in jokes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... there are one of the main characters strong bad is elucidore and the gimmick was you could write actual emails to strong bad and he would answer them as like in animated shorts right
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, somebody once wrote in and said, hey, make a comic about me and my friends is like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna comic about your little and he's kind of a grumpy myth myth anthropic kind of a character.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like a comic about your friends and he came up with this completely absurd, hastily drawn thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could see it drawn on like line paper called teen girl squad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The characters were cheerleader, so-and-so, what's her face, and the ugly one, like those those were the characters, and by the end they had all been murdered, like one got shot when the arrow, one got killed by a robot, like it turned into an action comic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That spun off into its whole series of teen girl squad comics that were narrated by Strongbad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when they came around to Valentine's Day, they had these 14 girls, Chudoliter so, and so, what's her face of the ugly one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Talk about dating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But because the gimmick is that Strongbad is writing these things, there's all these surreal things come in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, here's two characters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're texting flirts to one another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the wireless wizard appears and murders one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very, very strange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The weird thing about the homestaurant of cartoons, which is done by Mark and Mike Chapman, is that they had this very uncanny ability to insert lines of dialogue that you knew you were going to adopt as part of your own person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like that every they didn't have an act yeah every engine they made became your in joke and I don't know what what quality it had I've heard people talk about certain movies being quoteable yeah which is something that I I don't really understand how to really define what makes a quoteable movie other than the fact that it is quoted I think that's I think it is kind of rift uh... what do you call it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: um uh
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[SPEAKER_05]: Just a loop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it just is what it is, but like maybe you can take a line of dialogue and apply it out of context And so get a laugh out of it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I get a laugh.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think about like all these movies Just like someone says something in a really cool way and I'm like now every time I say like every time I describe something is cute and not like adorable But like
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[SPEAKER_05]: how whimsical for you, like kind of cry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm saying it the way Robert Redford says it in sneakers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cute.
1:10:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's not even much of a quote.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But it's very cool to bull.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel that that's homster runner through and through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of the brothers' chaps cartoons had that weird ear equality where you just sort of wanted to repeat what they said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're watching this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's about what time is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Valentine's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's funny.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Every funny way to say that.
1:10:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And they keep on getting it a little bit wrong.
1:10:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually you're saying like, Vemlum times a serious time.
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So now, now to this day, we say, Vemlum times day to one another, because these guys wrote it 20 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a funny short.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And because it's drawn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's drawn in writing for Vemlum.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's fun.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:11:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Home Star Runner is a phenomenon that I never really was deeply into.
1:11:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I know a lot of people were that watched every episode.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I did, but that was me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was obsessed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I appreciate it and it was funny.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But here's the thing that concerns about Home Star Runner.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There are people who were around at the time who still have internalized Home Star Runner.
1:11:26
[SPEAKER_05]: And still talk about it this day.
1:11:27
[SPEAKER_05]: You just did.
1:11:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like younger people are not finding it.
1:11:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's because it was an online phenomenon, it was animated through Flash, and Flash died.
1:11:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It died, it went to funk.
1:11:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, they had to make cartoons about how Flash was dying.
1:11:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, home star and strong batter, like talking about how their own animation software is dying.
1:11:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:11:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think when that happened, that was a problem.
1:11:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, people stopped going to websites.
1:11:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They just went on to a phone and the other way there were consuming media changed dramatically.
1:12:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So those kinds of animated shorts sort of filled by the way, sign.
1:12:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you find them on YouTube.
1:12:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:12:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my argument is this.
1:12:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
1:12:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Home star runner.
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_05]: If you were to guess, if you put all the home star runner cartoons on end to end, about how long would you say it is?
1:12:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Our old days.
1:12:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Days.
1:12:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, because they were doing it for like 30 years.
1:12:21
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
1:12:23
[SPEAKER_05]: We need a criterion set.
1:12:26
[SPEAKER_05]: of all the homestaurant, I'm not even fucking kidding.
1:12:28
[SPEAKER_00]: They did put them out on DVDs, but I think it's a kind of cultural artifact that I think should be preserved.
1:12:34
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think so.
1:12:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's like, they want to do it with stickers syndrome, should do it, arrow, should do it, etc.
1:12:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, they did it themselves, but I mean, they should have an imprimature.
1:12:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:12:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't mean that they should, because that's something that you find if you're looking for it.
1:12:48
[SPEAKER_05]: If criteria puts it out, people will look at it on principle.
1:12:54
[SPEAKER_05]: That's, criteria needs to be weaponized better, it's my point.
1:12:59
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's actually like a genuinely culturally interesting phenomenon, cinema, if you will, that warrants that kind of preservation.
1:13:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Should we in the library covers?
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Moving on.
1:13:15
[SPEAKER_00]: what is followed up follow up so that the feature film because that's a little bit childish about teenagers just sort of being whimsical about romance yeah i decided to choose a whimsical teenage romance i decided to choose West Anderson's moonrise kingdom
1:13:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm not wearing what to go with that.
1:13:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I like I like Moonrise Kingdom a lot of one of my one of my favorite West Anderson films Yeah, it is more emotional later films.
1:13:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's a little more emotionally earnest Yeah, West Anderson is notoriously mannered In fact, that's this whole stack.
1:13:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to film little diorama as he likes to keep things like really squared off and everything really symmetrical and a frame Yeah, but
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[SPEAKER_05]: characters addressing the camera directly, and all of the characters got almost the same emotional distance as Kubrick does, but he's just got a more whimsical storytelling style.
1:14:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing that all West Anderson characters tend to share is that they have very carefully constructed their own persona.
1:14:14
[SPEAKER_00]: The things that they're into the way they talk about it, their obsessions and the way they dress, they've deliberately constructed for themselves.
1:14:21
[SPEAKER_00]: They're building their own reality for the most part there.
1:14:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll play the exceptions, of course Yeah, but the predominately you'll see that.
1:14:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And the main character in Munrise Kingdom is a boy scout and he's obsessed with scouting Until he meets a young girl and these kids are 12 like they're just barely figuring out what romance this is fairly a first crash situation
1:14:40
[SPEAKER_00]: but because they're kind of all trapped in their own personal dramas, the only way they can deal with genuine emotions is through those personal obsessions.
1:14:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So, or by revealing against them, which makes them prized.
1:14:55
[SPEAKER_00]: In this case, it's, he uses his scouting skills, this young man, to essentially run off and go camping.
1:15:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's the big drama.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna run off and they're gonna go camping.
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna leap around on a beach and they're underwear That's romance when you're 12.
1:15:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's very chase.
1:15:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It's completely innocent.
1:15:16
[SPEAKER_05]: It takes place in sort of like a parallel version of the 1950s Yeah, it feels like a mixed up files of basally frank while or kind of kind of vibe
1:15:25
[SPEAKER_05]: that kind of like if you ever read that book I don't know kids still read that book but that was a book about like a brother and a sister of memory serves and they run away to live in a museum yeah boys that a wesse Anderson premise am i right i want to go live in the diorama is literally like it's got that kind of like
1:15:44
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, we're we're we're rebelling and we're young, but we're doing it in the almost the nerdy is way.
1:15:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And what I love is that they're they're rebelling in this nerdy way.
1:15:54
[SPEAKER_00]: They're obsessed with like maps and books and compasses, like all of the accutraments of scouting are really sort of fetishized in the movie.
1:16:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that they did anything, the least bit rebellious, throws the adult world into a dizzy.
1:16:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, everything's originally codified.
1:16:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so all of the adults are like really freaking out.
1:16:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where did these kids go on?
1:16:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, it's like a panoply of celebrities.
1:16:16
[SPEAKER_05]: And that level of rebellion starts to like sort of challenge their world view.
1:16:20
[SPEAKER_05]: In a way, there's like two characters who are having an affair.
1:16:23
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, wait.
1:16:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Could we do that?
1:16:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's not allowed.
1:16:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't realize we could just run away together.
1:16:30
[SPEAKER_05]: That sounds great.
1:16:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_05]: One of my, we're not asking them isn't one of, to get back to a previous thing, one of Wes Anderson's more quotable movies.
1:16:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, I think about like a lot of lines and rush more like all the time like oh what are what are you wearing?
1:16:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh these are O-R scrubs.
1:16:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, are they?
1:16:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Great light.
1:16:50
[SPEAKER_05]: It's silly line, but it's a great line.
1:16:52
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's one scene in this movie and it was in the trailer because they knew it was a great line.
1:16:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Where the kid meets the girl and she's like in like a school play where everyone's dressed as birds And he like run you like meets her backstage and all those girls are dressed as birds I need to say hey, what kind of bird are you and this one goes says well, I'm a hawk and she's a no He stops her.
1:17:15
[SPEAKER_05]: What kind of bird are you?
1:17:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know that kids got game.
1:17:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, oh that kids good
1:17:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And he looks like Mark Mothers-Bong.
1:17:23
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like thick glass.
1:17:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
1:17:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Boom down his hair.
1:17:25
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's all personality.
1:17:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Like he's just, he's got it.
1:17:28
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he's just, he's locked in.
1:17:30
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, oh, I watched, for the first time, I watched Stranger than Fiction.
1:17:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my furl.
1:17:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Tomson Mary.
1:17:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I, I just never came up.
1:17:40
[SPEAKER_05]: And my girlfriend was a huge fan.
1:17:41
[SPEAKER_05]: And she was like, which watch are you never seen it?
1:17:42
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's a cute movie.
1:17:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Like a lot.
1:17:45
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a moment in that movie where Will Ferrell is in love with Maggie Jill and Holland.
1:17:48
[SPEAKER_05]: She plays a baker.
1:17:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, she runs a bakery and he's very sort of repressed, shut in, doesn't seem like a guy could be good in a dating situation, but in order to give her a present, he brings her like a box that's full of different paper sacks with different kinds of flower and he says, I got you flowers.
1:18:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:18:10
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, that's cute.
1:18:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Clock.
1:18:11
[SPEAKER_05]: That's good.
1:18:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I was watching them like, oh fuck, oh, that's such a good move.
1:18:19
[SPEAKER_05]: That's so good.
1:18:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh man, I would date you.
1:18:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't even even a baker and that's such a good one.
1:18:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:18:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's so cute.
1:18:27
[SPEAKER_05]: I always admire any scene in a movie where someone makes a move or declares their intentions or there does a flirt in a way that isn't cheesy.
1:18:43
[SPEAKER_05]: uncomfortably confidence, you know, on that kind of just like get out of my face kind of way.
1:18:48
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like you'll see blast from the past with Brendan Fraser.
1:18:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, there's a bit in that movie and Brendan Fraser Crazy guy whose family thought during the Cuban Missile Crisis America was doomed.
1:18:57
[SPEAKER_05]: So they've been living for decades in a bomb shelter, not realizing life went on.
1:19:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And Brendan Fraser emerges thinking he's in a post-nuclear wasteland, trying to find, you know, a way to propagate the species.
1:19:08
[SPEAKER_05]: So he's got to find some of the date.
1:19:10
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's so many introduces him to the
1:19:13
[SPEAKER_05]: And the best he got is, excuse me, has anyone seen my metal of honor anywhere?
1:19:19
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, I'll see, that's good.
1:19:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's clearly a line, but it's also a very harmless line and it shows that you're aware of the silliness of this whole process, but you are also talking yourself up a little bit in a way that you can't take seriously and right, you're not really a metal of honor.
1:19:35
[SPEAKER_05]: When you're like, I know, it's a line.
1:19:38
[SPEAKER_05]: I got your attention in a whimsical way.
1:19:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I digress, sorry.
1:19:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I totally derailed this.
1:19:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I apologize.
1:19:47
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's fine.
1:19:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That line in Munrise Kingdom, what kind of bird are you?
1:19:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It gets good.
1:19:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:19:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I get as good.
1:19:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And you see their chemistry, but in that sort of West Anderson way, where they're both kind of a little bit mannered.
1:20:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like they'll never actually say it out loud, but like we know we're in love.
1:20:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like they don't, they don't smile, they don't giggle.
1:20:05
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing messy in West Anderson movie.
1:20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, it's all very, it's all very proper.
1:20:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see Wes Anderson make the Mark Summers story, the host of Double Dare.
1:20:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, can he do...
1:20:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes, actually that's a brilliant idea.
1:20:20
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a genuinely brilliant idea.
1:20:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Mark Summers is the host of Double Dare.
1:20:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Famously he had OCD, he didn't like things to be disorderly or messy.
1:20:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't have any very pronounced case of it to get a guy.
1:20:31
[SPEAKER_05]: And he spoke very frankly, like, you know, I wanted to make sure like every single fiber in my carpet was pointed in the same direction and if it wasn't, I had to stop my day.
1:20:39
[SPEAKER_05]: That's really difficult to like just live with.
1:20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: They can be very very And you know, he's hosting double day where they're dumping slime on people's heads and kids are aging each other And that must have been so fucking difficult for him.
1:20:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He was always professional.
1:20:52
[SPEAKER_05]: He was right.
1:20:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He would never know That he was probably very uncomfortable and he's and he's doing well.
1:20:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he was in so pretty awful accidents I did get like some reconstructed surgery
1:21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's all right.
1:21:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad to hear that and yeah, he should totally have his own movie and what's Anderson totally drank Yeah, but Moonrise Kingdom is like the one West Anderson film that I I feel is like the most the purest Straight forward romantic story.
1:21:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's romantic elements in most of his movies especially bottle rocket, but bottle rocket is like a high-st movie that has a love story and it's a good love story.
1:21:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Moonrise Kingdom is like the love story Is that
1:21:30
[SPEAKER_00]: You've probably true.
1:21:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just wash more.
1:21:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more like a rivalry between those two characters.
1:21:35
[SPEAKER_05]: It's great.
1:21:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess if you were only focused on Bill Murray and Olivia Williams, I think maybe more so, but it's very, it's very, it's very depressed actually.
1:21:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm going to try to think.
1:21:45
[SPEAKER_05]: There's some romance in real ten and bombs, especially in delicate Houston and Danny Glover, but that's still pretty minor.
1:21:53
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's their own very minor.
1:21:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's very minor, but.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it's pretty short.
1:21:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's only 94 minutes.
1:22:00
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's a zero in search of run-in in, uh, uh, Grandpa, they're cute.
1:22:05
[SPEAKER_00]: They're cute together.
1:22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
1:22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so I go.
1:22:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to be a fence.
1:22:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's 94 minutes when the ice came down.
1:22:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So it ends at 1039, 1039 at night, get another four minute break.
1:22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's gonna charge right back in with Bill Plimpton's How To Kiss.
1:22:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And a little animated show of it six minutes long.
1:22:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Bill Clinton.
1:22:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Bill, that's a great animator.
1:22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Bill Clinton has the the the tech's avery philosophy of cartoon making and that he's just going to do a series of gags.
1:22:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
1:22:36
[SPEAKER_00]: How to kiss is a little short of in yets about different styles of kissing and of course he takes them to cartoonish extremes.
1:22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, here's how how do you do a hard kiss and here's what it does and the narrator is oblivious to what's happening to the animated characters because they kiss so hard their heads get chopped off that kind of thing.
1:22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: The tongue kiss, where they, the tongue like the same thing.
1:22:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Like crawls out there.
1:22:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the other perch deer, that kind of staff.
1:23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:23:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's in that kind of shaky colored pencil style.
1:23:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:23:06
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're unfamiliar with Bill Plumton, he was really quite a phenomenon in the 90s.
1:23:10
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're having a Bill Plumton, watch this short.
1:23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:23:13
[SPEAKER_05]: You'll get it.
1:23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch great.
1:23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch how to kiss, watch one of those days.
1:23:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the one where the guy like sets his hand on fire,
1:23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: and watch your face, which was for an Oscar.
1:23:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Your face is, are you the least best work, yeah.
1:23:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But I love how to kiss, it's definitely funny.
1:23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good pick, I love it.
1:23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're kissing romantic.
1:23:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
1:23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, again, I'm starting with like some pretty light ones.
1:23:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get into some heavier ones later.
1:23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But just like you, I wanted to go back to something that's a little bit more archetypal, something where a lot of romantic comedies of today came from.
1:23:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go back to the master of that, Ernst Lubetsch, and I'm going to have trouble in paradise, which is about a romance between, I guess it's about a stalled romance between two con artists.
1:24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: They break up at the beginning of the movie, even though they're clearly perfect for each other.
1:24:04
[SPEAKER_00]: and the con man moves on and tries to like ingratiate himself with a wealthy, I think it's just like a wealthy dowager.
1:24:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well this is one of the ones I don't remember as vividly a student.
1:24:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, he begins to develop feelings.
1:24:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's like, the plan is for like, he and his con artist, Lady Friends, to go after this woman who owns like a big, like, I think she has a department store for a few Murray or something.
1:24:36
[SPEAKER_00]: She's really, really rich and they're going to fleece her.
1:24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, they're played by,
1:24:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Herbert Marshall he's he's like the main guy and and Kate Francis is the the eloquent artist and Miriam Hopkins plays the woman they're gonna fleece ah Miriam Hopkins fucking icon man yeah and and and the problem is they feel she's rich we target rich people we just sort of take them money but she's actually like very humane and very put upon and has like kind of yeah all of these neuroses and and issues that she can't
1:25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It prevents her from going out into the world the way she would like, and so he actually starts talking to her and they end up falling in love a lot.
1:25:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, he comes to a census by the end because he realizes he can't flee sir by the end, and that puts him in an awkward position with his actual lady friend.
1:25:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the end of this film's like 80 minutes, because it's made from 1932.
1:25:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not the ounce of fat on those people.
1:25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they come out on the right end of morally on the right of him if things anybody has sort of the right partners by the end.
1:25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's nice.
1:25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, a love story because they're dishonest but the only thing that can't be dishonest about is love Yeah, and hurting people's feelings.
1:25:52
[SPEAKER_00]: They're their contards.
1:25:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They manipulate feelings as a matter of course Yeah, they don't they have a very cynical world feel yeah, and yet love can break through But we also respect them because they're good at their jobs.
1:26:03
[SPEAKER_05]: One of my favorite contards is the lady you've
1:26:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Barbara Stanley plays a con artist and she's trying to seduce Henry Fonda who's a very boring rich man.
1:26:14
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he's into snakes and it's going well, but she really falls in love with him and she's going to quit the con artist job and she's never going to tell him and just going to drop it all but then he finds out she's a con artist and he's a total dick about it so she decides, well, fuck it.
1:26:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Now I have to con him but her con job is I'm just going to show up in his life saying I'm someone else
1:26:35
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, I know it sounds like a bad idea, but it's such a bad idea.
1:26:38
[SPEAKER_05]: He wouldn't think I do it.
1:26:41
[SPEAKER_05]: And so now he is actually falling, she just happens to look like exactly the Connor at his woman I met before, but she would never do that.
1:26:48
[SPEAKER_05]: That's such a stupid plan.
1:26:50
[SPEAKER_05]: So it can't possibly be her.
1:26:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I love this woman.
1:26:54
[SPEAKER_05]: It's such a...
1:26:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's such a good script.
1:26:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Ah, yeah.
1:26:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Good card on his romances hard to climb with his so good.
1:27:01
[SPEAKER_00]: But Ernst Lubitch did a lot of these kinds of light-hearted comedies back in the 1930s.
1:27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He, I became sort of his METTI.
1:27:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
1:27:08
[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of... And I think it was Billy Wilder, who in his death, like, in his office.
1:27:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, because when he was trying to think of sort of like romances and sort of how to write screenplays, he looked to Aaron Slubich as his primary source of inspiration.
1:27:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Slubich movies the way their scripts were tightly constructed.
1:27:26
[SPEAKER_00]: But also the way the characters interacted, the way they were able to take feeling seriously, but still have a very light tone.
1:27:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, they weren't really, they weren't really beholden to like, uh, archetypal structure.
1:27:39
[SPEAKER_05]: The way a lot of other people are definitely not in it.
1:27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, all more character driven.
1:27:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, if you ever watched a sign for living, that's, that's my favorite, Lou Bitch.
1:27:46
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's not a polycule in the early 30s.
1:27:50
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's a good movie about it too, like it just couldn't do that.
1:27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But Aaron Slubich, or rather Billy Wilder, evidently had a plaque in his office, like up over the door that just said, what would Lubich do?
1:28:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.
1:28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: How are you going to write this movie?
1:28:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's just think of Aaron Slubich, man.
1:28:10
[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't know Aaron Slubich, he's
1:28:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He's really well-known to like film scholars and film school students, but I don't think his work is really widely known beyond those students anymore.
1:28:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's like teenagers discovering her and slew bitch movies.
1:28:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Not enough.
1:28:25
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you're interested in comedy, especially if you're interested in romantic comedy, Loubitch is someone you have to study.
1:28:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:28:32
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't mean that as like you should.
1:28:34
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean literally any baseline study of comedy and the romantic comedy in particular is a genre.
1:28:41
[SPEAKER_05]: has to include at least a few Louis Vuitton's because he's so formative to them.
1:28:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:28:45
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like him and like Capra, especially with like it happened one night.
1:28:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you just got to hand ignore it.
1:28:51
[SPEAKER_05]: It would, history doesn't make sense without it.
1:28:55
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's, and he was running film maker.
1:28:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't, I didn't like everything he ever did.
1:28:59
[SPEAKER_05]: And he'd do an ennuchka.
1:29:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I know why people like Ninochka.
1:29:03
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think Ninochka works.
1:29:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Guys, too much of an ad.
1:29:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the characters, but I don't like that.
1:29:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't buy that she would fall in love with him because he's such a dick.
1:29:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she's a great character.
1:29:12
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a great character.
1:29:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't buy them together at all.
1:29:16
[SPEAKER_05]: They never quite seal that deal.
1:29:17
[SPEAKER_05]: But a lot of people love that movie, so maybe I'm in the minority on that.
1:29:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so luckily that movie is, yeah, it's 83 minutes.
1:29:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So by the end of that one, it's only 12, 12, right?
1:29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Another four minute break.
1:29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We're at midnight.
1:29:30
[SPEAKER_00]: We're past midnight now.
1:29:31
[SPEAKER_00]: If you've eaten past midnight, you're now a grandma.
1:29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I gave you much to do about nothing.
1:29:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I gave you Moonrise Kingdom.
1:29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I gave you a friggin' edge lubehitch film.
1:29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.
1:29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.
1:29:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You got light, hearted, fun, romantic comedies.
1:29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything's really light and funny.
1:29:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Whitney's about to melt your face off.
1:29:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's past midnight.
1:29:51
[SPEAKER_00]: If you've made it this far, I'm gonna chase you out of the fucking theater.
1:29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So for my great mentality to have 12 like six hours of programming 12 16 AM you're at midnight I'm gonna start with the dirty birdie The dirty birdie the animated short the dirty birdie.
1:30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I know this one.
1:30:11
[SPEAKER_00]: This one is a staple of spike in Mike sick and twisted It's about a bird
1:30:16
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of a weird-looking bird with sort of eyes at point in opposite directions and approaches a cat, blue cat that's sitting on a branch, and tries to woo the cat.
1:30:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the only thing the bird knows how to do to woo a cat is moon the cat.
1:30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Ow.
1:30:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Just gets his ass out, moons the cat, and there's a really fun musical view.
1:30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It will cue.
1:30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Every time the bird gets his ass out.
1:30:42
[SPEAKER_00]: The cat ignores the bird.
1:30:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Cut, bird just has its ass out and then the cat kicks the bird out of the tree.
1:30:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Boy, are you selling this cartoon?
1:30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: The bird comes back and takes his ass out again.
1:30:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
1:30:54
[SPEAKER_00]: The cat kicks him out of the tree again and things get increasingly elaborate from there.
1:30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: The cat sticks a bike pump into the bird's butt and explodes its butt like a bike tire.
1:31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that kind of stuff.
1:31:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Kel Romance.
1:31:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually the cat gets so fed up at it, like, essentially because it's an animated character, and turns to this big horrible monster.
1:31:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And the bird thinks that's really funny, also turns into a monster, and they actually bond a little bit over the fact that they can both look like monsters, and they laugh, and they have a good time, and they find that they're kind of reconciling, and they're more in common than we thought.
1:31:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the bird gets its ass out again.
1:31:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone's in a while hilarious so funny everyone's in a while Winnie, you know, Winnie who likes to talk a lot about how much he loves like the programming on Avid Winnie who loves nice to talk about love Diaz Everyone's in a while.
1:31:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm reminded that
1:31:55
[SPEAKER_05]: For all of his pretence, for all of his classical film school education pretence, excuse me, I mean, I mean, I'm in the bad way, I just mean that you're incredibly well read and you expect everyone else to be too by the way you talk.
1:32:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone's an armor-minded that you're also like a like an eight-year-old boy.
1:32:13
[SPEAKER_05]: That's part of you that's just that's it.
1:32:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I firmly believe that we are in our selves somewhere.
1:32:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone we've ever been and you can access that if you really wanted to.
1:32:25
[SPEAKER_05]: When these eight-year-old boy comes out quite a bit actually.
1:32:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you're being honest.
1:32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, there's the sublime and there is the ridiculous.
1:32:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need anything else.
1:32:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck everything else in between.
1:32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, conventional is dull.
1:32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so yes, I reject the binary.
1:32:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going.
1:32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have Aaron slewbitch known for like classy romantic comedies.
1:32:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
1:32:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm going to have the dirty birdie.
1:32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:32:52
[SPEAKER_00]: The cartoon about the bird that gets its butt out.
1:32:54
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
1:32:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Now you're going to have to follow this.
1:32:56
[SPEAKER_05]: And I assume it has something to do with
1:32:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's gonna be nice and nasty, but it's a love story, it's a classic love story, it's more Shakespeare.
1:33:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go with Tromio and Juliet.
1:33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: The director's cut the very long one with all the extra sweaty stuff in it.
1:33:17
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that makes sense.
1:33:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought you were going to go with like Tinto Brass.
1:33:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Not quite.
1:33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:33:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I said, Brass is a radical maker who just loves butts.
1:33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves been great.
1:33:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:33:27
[SPEAKER_05]: It loves butts the way Russ Meyer loves boobs.
1:33:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Except he has no sense of humor that I can remember.
1:33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're, if you're,
1:33:34
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a breast man, you go watch Russ Meyer if you're a butt man He watched into brass if you're a woman.
1:33:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not part of this conversation.
1:33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of women who love Russ Meyer movies
1:33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, yeah, because Ross Meyer has weird like feminist lean eggs.
1:33:47
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, he actually came from the women.
1:33:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, he really Characters they're ending characters.
1:33:52
[SPEAKER_00]: They're really strong.
1:33:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They have their own style.
1:33:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:33:55
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, like not all of his movies are equally good at this But his best movies which are quite a lot of movies the women have all the real power and they're more interesting characters and even when they're villains, they're cool
1:34:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, like Taurus, a tonneye.
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like he's he's ogling but he's ogling because they have given this.
1:34:16
[SPEAKER_05]: this little sack of crap director permission to film that is the way that is the vibe yeah so uh... trombone juliait was uh... directed by moly coughman at the trombone picture uh... it was written by james gone yeah back up back up it was doing more interesting stuff well this is the first thing you ever wrote down research they were he was just working as an intern and they were like we need someone to write this hey you were right or he's like i don't know i guess all right right ascript over the weekend and he did
1:34:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And he wrote a long one and the Lloyd Coffman's like, what is this so whole script it's too long Yeah, I thought you needed a feature.
1:34:52
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, not that way.
1:34:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I shoot.
1:34:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:34:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I need like 40 pages.
1:34:56
[SPEAKER_00]: That's I think I can milk a script of a 40 page script into a feature
1:35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: and it is it has like lemme from motorhead it's this wonderfully twisted version narrator yeah yeah it was the prince the two households both alike in dignity and of course they update it it's not Shakespeare's language they do a few Shakespearean speeches but it's the romangely at story set in trauma vell so it's like this dystopian landscape where everything is ultra violent and over sex and really bizarre and we learn that tromio is he he
1:35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: In such a cynical world, people don't really fall in love anymore, but he has a romance fetish, and there's a lot of that prolongs the scene, for conventional romance.
1:35:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So people, he like calls up these romantic videos on porno websites and like masturbates while yelling, I love you.
1:35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I love you.
1:35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how we know he's a romantic.
1:35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's good.
1:35:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so don't tell.
1:35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Juliette's meanwhile is she's not just keeping she's not not just cloistered by a strict parent She's a literal slave like she's tied up and her nurse is actually her lesbian lover in this one Now put back Debbie Mays are if memory serves.
1:36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't Debbie Mays are but she just looked a lot like Debbie Mays are really yeah
1:36:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, who's what does Debbie Mays are?
1:36:07
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not, not, pretty sure it wasn't Debbie Mays are.
1:36:09
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, well, that's a shame.
1:36:11
[SPEAKER_05]: More people should be Debbie Mays are.
1:36:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and there's all kinds.
1:36:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And she has a fear of romance, as we see in sort of dream sequences.
1:36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: She gets to make out with a hawks-tably man but he is like a four foot penis monster for a penis.
1:36:24
[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of stuff with a face on it.
1:36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I just realized that when I say, really?
1:36:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I turn into Eek the cat.
1:36:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, come by, yeah, it never hurts to out, that's right about anything.
1:36:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Debbie Rochon, I was gross, I was gross, I was a different Debbie and they do similar vibes.
1:36:42
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true, they both have that sort of alternate golf vibe to them.
1:36:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and but the story plays out like Romeo and Juliet, our tromio finds out that falls in love with her,
1:36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: There's, um, they get to sort of play off like, uh, there's the scene.
1:36:57
[SPEAKER_00]: The balcony scene, like, uh, see that she rests her hand upon that cheek.
1:37:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, with that I'd worth it.
1:37:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd glow.
1:37:03
[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna go up on that hand, uh, and said it's like on her bare ass.
1:37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of stuff.
1:37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, subtle.
1:37:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and and they throw another twisted things beside.
1:37:13
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of like, oh, yeah, I'm not a violence and funnier shit.
1:37:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:37:16
[SPEAKER_05]: there's a there's a there's a there's a monster who shows up in a dream sequence I just I just grabbed the penis monster.
1:37:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're looking up to have you were Sean.
1:37:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like that.
1:37:26
[SPEAKER_05]: But the penis monster is iconic.
1:37:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:37:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:37:29
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a popcorn scene that fucks me up.
1:37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The popcorn scene's really weird.
1:37:33
[SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.
1:37:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like like that one.
1:37:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know of that track like Frank hadn't lotter with scratch his head And pop corn.
1:37:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have the symbolism of that Cronenberg's like I want to talk to this guy We should give this guy super man and there's a just and they add an extra twist to the end of row Romion Julia because Trombion Julia does not have a tragic ending actually ends quite happily for Trombion Julia But in a twisted way that you don't quite expect
1:38:02
[SPEAKER_00]: No, in a very twisted way.
1:38:03
[SPEAKER_05]: In a way that there is an ironic, kind of, there is an ironic fucked up element.
1:38:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:38:09
[SPEAKER_05]: And, but it's very trauma, isn't it?
1:38:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:38:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Very pretty.
1:38:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like, that's sort of like, for me, that's the pinnacle of trauma.
1:38:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they didn't...
1:38:18
[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of great films in the trauma can and they're all really trashy and really cheap But I feel like Tromeo and Juliet was the one where they reached the highest and achieved the most Oh, yeah, so it's our masterpiece It actually works as a film It's like it's I've seen I think about a lot when I think about movies like Tromeo and Juliet is in buggy nights Yeah, we're Ricky J.
1:38:37
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like editing like their James Bond porno knockoff and
1:38:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Bert Reynolds is like, this is it.
1:38:46
[SPEAKER_05]: This is the movie.
1:38:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to be rememble for.
1:38:48
[SPEAKER_05]: And then Ricky J turns the hammer and all series says, it's a real film jack.
1:38:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's how I feel.
1:38:54
[SPEAKER_05]: What's all going to like, throw me on Julie gets made.
1:38:56
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, it's a real film.
1:38:57
[SPEAKER_05]: How do we do that?
1:38:58
[SPEAKER_05]: We weren't even trying.
1:39:00
[SPEAKER_05]: But like yeah, it's so great.
1:39:02
[SPEAKER_05]: It's wonderful.
1:39:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's a bit of a long one.
1:39:04
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the longest one.
1:39:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really it's a hundred and thirty seven minutes that's the only kind of wap or you won't be bored So you won't be and again, I'm bringing this out at midnight.
1:39:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to keep you awake.
1:39:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, you will not be bored watching.
1:39:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Draw me on Julia.
1:39:19
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like almost impossible.
1:39:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's over at two forty a. I'm going to give you another four minute break.
1:39:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to come back with Don Hertz felt two minute animated short.
1:39:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah Lamor.
1:39:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, which one is this?
1:39:31
[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of the first ones he ever did.
1:39:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Where it's a little stick man walking up to a woman and the dialogue is printed on screen.
1:39:36
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no actual voice on you.
1:39:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And one says, hey, Sally, would you like to go on a date?
1:39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And she yells, stop smothering me and then kills him in skins of a live and like wears his skin as a hat.
1:39:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the paper crumples up and we start again.
1:39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have the same scene.
1:39:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And every time he approaches a woman, he says things that are increasingly innocuous,
1:39:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Would you like to hang out?
1:40:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Want to hang you want to get a coffee?
1:40:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, what time is it at each time?
1:40:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know something horrible?
1:40:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the woman murders him and it increasingly horrible ways until at the very Andy just says I have money And she says I love you don't hurt smells a little bit of a snack.
1:40:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah
1:40:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Happy Valentine's Day.
1:40:20
[SPEAKER_00]: As long as we're being cynical about romance, I'm going to...
1:40:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to... Again, this... And again, 246 in the morning, I'm not going to give you something long or light.
1:40:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give you natural born killers.
1:40:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All of our stones natural born killers.
1:40:34
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
1:40:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Keep you fucking awake.
1:40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's true.
1:40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: If you fall asleep, I dread the dreams you're going to.
1:40:39
[SPEAKER_05]: It'll keep you awake at gunpoint, basically.
1:40:42
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, they fucking dare you.
1:40:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Oliver Stone, this was his college experiment movie, even though he'd already made multiple features, because he's trying to use every kind of camera he can.
1:40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He uses animation, he uses puppetry, he uses digital effects, and this was right now for TV MTV and he succeeded.
1:40:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's he knew what the MTV aesthetic was like.
1:41:01
[SPEAKER_00]: He also saw in the MTV aesthetic a kind of mutation of media that turned a lot of violent stories into sensationalized stories.
1:41:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:41:09
[SPEAKER_00]: how serial killer as we're being turned into hero so you made a movie about that about these uh... two killers Mickey and Mallory knocks you already named check them earlier uh... played by witty heralds in july at louis who are just sort of out in america murdering whoever they want to mass murderers they'd still have no regard for human life they know it's wrong and they don't care
1:41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Because what's breaking through all of this as they're pure love for one another They've found Kindred spirits in each other.
1:41:35
[SPEAKER_05]: There really is somebody for everybody, right?
1:41:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you are a serial killer, just find yourself another serial killer and go on But you're on the right serial killer.
1:41:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't go on like
1:41:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to think of what the name of that app would be.
1:41:51
[SPEAKER_05]: But just don't kill R. Yeah, yeah.
1:41:55
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
1:41:55
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like that's probably been done somewhere, but yeah.
1:41:59
[SPEAKER_05]: But no, it is, it is, it's perversely romantic, because there, there are love for each other is real.
1:42:06
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the thing.
1:42:06
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's, you can't pretend that it's not.
1:42:08
[SPEAKER_05]: And even as you are, absolutely horrified by who they are as people.
1:42:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like some people do hold up Mickey and Mallory Knox and even though they're monsters and they're murderers and they have no moral compass.
1:42:21
[SPEAKER_00]: People hug them up in a high regard for the purity of that romance.
1:42:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
1:42:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And in an outsider kind of way, this would make a good double feature with all things Edward Scissor Hands, which is actually very gentle movie.
1:42:34
[SPEAKER_00]: In that, this is about people who don't fit in with conventional society.
1:42:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:42:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Only finding a way to survive via love.
1:42:46
[SPEAKER_00]: That was Tim Burton's whole stick, was a lot of these kind of torture out-siders.
1:42:51
[SPEAKER_00]: The end of the Nightmaid River for Christmas is about these two outsiders in Halloween world, who is when it turns out the only thing that they were missing was just love.
1:42:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't need Christmas.
1:43:00
[SPEAKER_00]: They need love for one another.
1:43:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's very, very beautiful.
1:43:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think natural one killer is beautiful.
1:43:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's aggressive.
1:43:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's poignant.
1:43:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's difficult.
1:43:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the violence is going to put you off, but that's kind of the way it was constructed.
1:43:15
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there was a movie in the early 90s, starring Ted Rainy, where he played a shut-in.
1:43:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the time Pyramid Axel Loves.
1:43:27
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's Lunatic's Loves.
1:43:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Lunatic's a very similar title.
1:43:29
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why he was confused.
1:43:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Lunatic's a love story where he's very unwell and possibly on the verge of becoming a serial killer.
1:43:38
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's like,
1:43:40
[SPEAKER_05]: uh uh uh uh like a runaway or young woman's neighborhood is being accustomed by people and he saves her and like somehow they manage to save each other in a weird very odd way that never pretends that he's well uh and like when he finally has to like venture out into the world he sees like monsters everywhere and it's a very very strange y'all but it's like I think that would be an interesting double feature with that's great guys.
1:44:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Naturalborn killers this is going to be this is going to end at 445 in the morning so I've
1:44:10
[SPEAKER_05]: that was the goal.
1:44:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the goal.
1:44:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I've exhausted you, but we still have a few couple hours left, a few hours to go, and I want to make sure that I can kind of bring you back around.
1:44:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So for a minute break, we come back at 4.49 a.m. And I'm going to show you a music video for a saw, because I already showed you how to kiss.
1:44:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to show you kissing with confidence by will powers.
1:44:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I do not know this one.
1:44:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Will powers put out a record in the early eighties, like 83 or something.
1:44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I see if I, um, which was called dancing for mental health and will powers did these kind of like digital, uh, soundscapes, just kind of like little dance beats, a lot of a lot of synth.
1:45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And we just sort of recite a lot of, uh, really banal, self-help manuals.
1:45:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like you are an important person picture the person you want to be and it was all meant to be very ironic Very devol.
1:45:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what whip it is all about it.
1:45:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like when a problem comes on you must whip it like they're trying to make fun of that kind of self-help language Sure That was Will Power's whole stick
1:45:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, power's voice sounds a little odd.
1:45:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a weirdly condescending, but it has a weird sort of quality to it.
1:45:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And you'll understand why, when you understand that Will Powers is actually the famed photographer, Lynn Goldsmith, with her voice pitch down.
1:45:45
[SPEAKER_00]: This was like a weird art side musical art project from photographer Lynn Goldsmith, who put out records under the name Will Powers.
1:45:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I just got that.
1:46:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:46:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And kissing with confidence was about dating, giving people like dating advice.
1:46:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's just really great, very early 80s, a lot of video toaster effects, music video that went along with it.
1:46:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You can find it on Nightfly, a talk about Nightfly and all that.
1:46:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think kissing with confidence, it's a little bit ironic, but I think that's a good, whimsical transition out of something as aggressive as natural born killers.
1:46:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So we can finally get back into,
1:46:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's at 4.53 am, let's just start on say anything.
1:46:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just push us out on something really, really nice.
1:46:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Because say anything is just a legit, great romantic movie.
1:46:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even a comedy, it's just a romance.
1:46:45
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not.
1:46:46
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a couple of good lines at it, but...
1:46:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, no, it's a, it's a, it's a, I, I, I would, I almost pick Grosspoint Blank on mine.
1:46:54
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like John Q sack doesn't have like the greatest career ever, but when he was well cast in a romance and it was no one better.
1:47:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to interview John Kews at once, worst interview I've ever had.
1:47:06
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
1:47:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Not because he was being a dick, it's because it was the end of the day, and he clearly wanted to go home.
1:47:11
[SPEAKER_05]: And he'll get one.
1:47:12
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, he had been told he was done.
1:47:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they, and they said, wait a minute, we can fit you in right at the end.
1:47:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So he had to stay and talk to me.
1:47:20
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't want to.
1:47:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't blame him for being a little brosquith.
1:47:24
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, that's not that's an enemy.
1:47:27
[UNKNOWN]: So.
1:47:27
[SPEAKER_05]: The junkins are annoying.
1:47:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, junkins are annoying everybody.
1:47:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he hates them any way So I bought up sort of his career as sort of a romantic lead in films like gross point blank and things like say anything It's like look on an actor man I don't see myself as a romantic lead except when I talked to journalists like he's kind of being a little bit of a dick to me All right, but clearly had been asked this like a hundred times that day
1:47:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But I had to bring it up because he's been in, say, anything which is one of the great film romances.
1:47:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:47:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It's about two teenagers played by John Qsack and I own a sky.
1:48:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I own a sky plays sort of the, like a star student at high school.
1:48:09
[SPEAKER_05]: He's about Victoria.
1:48:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:48:10
[SPEAKER_00]: She's really, she's got a great future ahead of her.
1:48:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And the film begins when they're graduating.
1:48:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's about the next step.
1:48:17
[SPEAKER_00]: The first step in adulthood.
1:48:19
[SPEAKER_00]: They're about to be 18.
1:48:20
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't really know.
1:48:21
[SPEAKER_00]: how to figure out or how to traverse adulthood yet and this is kind of them figuring out grown-up romance for the first time.
1:48:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I also love them like they're out of high school and so now like all of those like rigid social constructs are kind of falling away and a guy who
1:48:39
[SPEAKER_05]: didn't really care about anything except kickboxing is now on an even keel with a valedictorian and it's like you can just talk to her now like it's a much more comfortable.
1:48:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And the endie and manages to get her on a date you think this is going to be about class conflict which it is but it's actually about how they actually do have a great romance and they do fall in love.
1:48:58
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not really sure how to say that to one another.
1:49:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're really nervous when they have sex for the first time The sex scene is really sweet in this movie.
1:49:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's in the back of a car But you think that's gonna be something kind of like cross about that But it's actually these characters are really trying to have something really intimate and Peter Gabriel's playing on the radio and Lloyd is really nervous about it like it's actually very human
1:49:19
[SPEAKER_05]: I love the way that neither of them, both of them are very emotional people, but neither of them knows how to communicate and like so there's the very famous scene where in order to express how he feels about what they've been through, he plays with that Peter Gabriel song, they've gone a boom box.
1:49:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and he's trying to make, she's spurned him at that point in the movie and he's trying
1:49:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to win her back, he's trying to make her feel bad.
1:49:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, about what she did.
1:49:44
[SPEAKER_05]: She's messing it up with my point and but like when she tries to express herself to ham and the breakup, she gives him a pen as a gift.
1:49:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:49:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I gave her my heart to give me a pen.
1:49:55
[SPEAKER_05]: She doesn't know how to express any of this and there's a tragedy to that.
1:49:59
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so good.
1:49:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And there is a whole plot about how the I only skies characters father runs all these charities But he's up to like now fees and since he's getting in trouble with the law It's a it's a course by subplot.
1:50:09
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not really why we're here But yeah, no, but that it's a big reason why it's sort of like fouling with following up their romance Yeah, sort of getting giving her new thoughts about her dad's getting in the way
1:50:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and about sort of her ideas about what class means and where she exists in that so that's actually a big part of the movie as well Yeah, and so well Great Awesome the final scene awesome final scene.
1:50:32
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so good.
1:50:33
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't I don't want to spoil anything No, no, I'm sure you've you've at least seen the boom bug scene and like it's still frame or something So yeah, it's such a great.
1:50:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sorry.
1:50:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I hit you so hard.
1:50:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I give you true on Juliet
1:50:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's gonna get you back and by the time saying anything is over, it's 630 a.m.
1:50:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I only got like a little time left so I'm gonna throw a few more shorts at you just to sort of wind down at the end of the night.
1:50:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna give you the future on the episode Love and Rocket.
1:51:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Which one's that?
1:51:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the one where Sigourney Weaver plays the new brain of the planet Express Shoe, yeah.
1:51:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And she and Bender the robot end up having a romance.
1:51:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Now because Bender is such a scoundrel, he treats the ship badly.
1:51:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever they go on a mission, the ship flies them into dangerous areas out of jealousy.
1:51:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's voiced by Sigourney Weaver.
1:51:26
[SPEAKER_05]: I have all learned about that.
1:51:26
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a bit where
1:51:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Bender has, Bender is cheating on the ship with like robot flusies, ladies of the evening.
1:51:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:51:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And the ship is like spying, like floating outside of the windows.
1:51:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, I saw you with those, no, no, no.
1:51:42
[SPEAKER_00]: They were just helping with the plumbing or something.
1:51:45
[SPEAKER_00]: The ship flies off and opens up his chest cavity.
1:51:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and they're Lucy, Louder, severed head is in her.
1:51:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Because in Futurama, it's celebrity severed head, so it kept alive in jars, so Lucy, Louder, isn't it?
1:51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can have all the clam here, yeah.
1:51:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I love future.
1:51:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it because it's dumb humor written by smart people.
1:52:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like the symptoms before.
1:52:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, there's a lot of really brainy jokes sort of hidden throughout.
1:52:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of really low jokes about, you know, drinking and farting.
1:52:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's clearly written by people who have advanced math degrees.
1:52:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the show and I think that's a fun romantic episode to throw in here.
1:52:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, something I've just watched for the first time today.
1:52:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a one minute long note.
1:52:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to slip it in there.
1:52:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It's called Love Baby.
1:52:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, and it's just a cute little narration about how Cupid has a hard job.
1:52:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I've got a fire at LL at you, and it's going to make you fall in love, but just to one you.
1:52:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Love arrows, they hurt as much as regular arrows.
1:52:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no!
1:52:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I might leave a skull on your butt, and one time, this guy died.
1:52:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's funny.
1:52:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny.
1:52:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a cute little laugh.
1:52:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny.
1:52:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm going to go out on other music video.
1:52:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:52:56
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... which was a spoof of do i make you proud which is a song you don't remember i assure you uh... this one it was a spoof of a song called do i make you proud which was uh... the end of uh... a season of american idol um... when uh... an artist named i think it was tailor-hix one okay
1:53:16
[SPEAKER_00]: uh and uh which was a bit of a controversial choice because he was like one of the less popular singers that season yeah well a lot of the other singers who've been eliminated way earlier on when i'm too much bigger careers yeah and uh when uh the idol wins they sing sort of a hit song that's been written just for them and you're always song called do i make you proud
1:53:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And weird I'll go to hand up a hold of that one and said, do I creep you out?
1:53:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever time I shake your hand, I want to I want to put your fingers in my mouth.
1:53:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a literally it's like weird.
1:53:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll make did a lot of really fun twisted love songs.
1:53:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to leave you on sort of a fun way twisted love song and then at 6.59 a.m. you get to go home.
1:53:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's my improvements.
1:54:01
[SPEAKER_05]: We've turned off the device from clockwork orange.
1:54:04
[SPEAKER_05]: You're allowed to go.
1:54:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so we'll talk about some runners up in a second, but for sake of posterity Whitney's all nighter
1:54:14
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... the lineage in short for sent a mental reasons can't have brand as much a do about nothing uh... the homestart runner episode team girl squad valentine say episode uh... moon rice kingdom bill plimptons how to kiss uh... instead of which is trouble in paradise uh... the spike in my animated classic the dirty birdie dirt dirty with a d uh... tromio and juliet from uh...
1:54:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Oliver Stone's Najiborne Killers, the Will Powers music video kissing with confidence, the 80s classics say anything, and then the Friedroin and Bazaar love and rocket, the short love baby and weird owls.
1:54:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Do I, um, creep you out, uh, and then mine for the record started with the 1987 kids film frog.
1:55:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
1:55:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, followed by Roman holiday, uh, the Oscar winning short god of love, Danny Boyle's a lifeless ordinary, the hygiene short what to do on a date.
1:55:17
[SPEAKER_05]: The slasher slash romcom hybrid heart eyes Booty call Which is a good choice.
1:55:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
1:55:25
[SPEAKER_05]: I was bad at that one.
1:55:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you ready for marriage another hygiene film?
1:55:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Bride of Chuckie Another hygiene film once upon a honeymoon.
1:55:34
[SPEAKER_05]: We're not really hygiene film more of like a Industrial video you can call hygiene film.
1:55:39
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a it's other piece, but it's not technically hygiene film
1:55:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the, uh, Matthew Broderick made Ryan Ron commented to love, followed by, finally, Twister.
1:55:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh,
1:55:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Whitney, I'm very curious what some of your runners up, or what your, your fail ideas made out of better example.
1:55:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, I was thinking of putting one of my favorite romantic films, A Little Romance, the Georgia Roy Hill movie with a very young Diane Lane and Lawrence Olivier.
1:56:04
[SPEAKER_00]: That's another film about 12-year-old is sort of like figuring out romance for the first time.
1:56:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Very, very sweet, I love that movie a lot.
1:56:10
[SPEAKER_00]: If I wanted to keep, the one I had to sort of mix, I wish I could have included this one,
1:56:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought about that too, you know, which is, which is so very slippery, you know, about, um, it's like a John Waters version of a gay conversion camp.
1:56:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So everything's really absurd and colorful and like the gay conversion camp is treated as like a complete cartoon evil thing.
1:56:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And these two young women end up falling in love.
1:56:35
[SPEAKER_05]: It's great irony.
1:56:36
[SPEAKER_05]: We, we two girls fall in love at a queer conversion camp.
1:56:40
[SPEAKER_05]: And one of them didn't even know they were gay.
1:56:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:56:42
[SPEAKER_05]: It's great.
1:56:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there was a film that I saw, uh, thanks to Avid, and, um, there it is.
1:56:49
[SPEAKER_00]: There's Avid.
1:56:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It was called So Pretty, and it was about sort of this, uh, kind of like this on-clave of, um, trans and non-binary people and queer people, that sort of rate moving.
1:56:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Sort of living together and just sort of appreciating their romantic lives.
1:57:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like non-incidental.
1:57:04
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just sort of like living with those characters.
1:57:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really very, it's very sweet, it's very honest, it's very forthright.
1:57:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I remind of me of that, I was very remember the name of that movie.
1:57:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So pretty as the title.
1:57:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Such a great film.
1:57:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I was,
1:57:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to put it because I put in Tromion Juliette.
1:57:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking of chasing that with westside story.
1:57:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Specifically, Spielberg's version westside story, which I really like.
1:57:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we talked about that recently.
1:57:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's such a downer.
1:57:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's not a fun thing.
1:57:31
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not a fun ending.
1:57:32
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's like a pretty bleak movie action.
1:57:34
[SPEAKER_05]: It's hard to work on something after it doesn't make it feel like you're brushing it aside.
1:57:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of musicals, I really wanted to include once, which is the only mood.
1:57:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a film where you actually watch people actually falling in love on camera, like in a documentary style.
1:57:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a story.
1:57:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They're playing characters, but you actually see these two musicians kind of like falling for each other as they make music together.
1:57:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And an anime film that I'm very fond of, called Whisper of the Heart.
1:58:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh!
1:58:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Great movie.
1:58:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Whisper of the Heart is really cute, and that, um,
1:58:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's about a young woman who goes to a library.
1:58:08
[SPEAKER_00]: She's reading up on a lot of books.
1:58:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Her big ambition is to translate John Denver's tick-me-home country road into Japanese.
1:58:16
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... and she goes to the library a lot and she notices that the same person has checked out all of the books she's checking out and that she makes is really a curious about what's going on so she ends up tracking him down and it's kind of this grumpy dude and they end up kind of forming a relationship together she and she also has ambitions to be a writer she writes these stories about a dashing cat character and a top hat who got his own spin-off and that cat character got unspinoff
1:58:45
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
1:58:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So those were films.
1:58:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:58:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So my get it.
1:58:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Get around to include.
1:58:49
[SPEAKER_05]: So my I was kind of finding my groove, my theme over time.
1:58:54
[SPEAKER_05]: So a lot of the things that I'm about to mention are either movies that were either going to fill a slot that eventually got taken by another film or were somehow the idea would be to take the night in another direction.
1:59:06
[SPEAKER_05]: For example, for a wedding themed movie, I almost picked in and out.
1:59:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
1:59:13
[SPEAKER_05]: It's Kevin Klein, which is really kind of muted on the romance front.
1:59:17
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's a great comedy.
1:59:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good queer comedy.
1:59:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It came at a time when queer characters were becoming a lot more visible in Hollywood productions.
1:59:28
[SPEAKER_00]: That one, and I think the bird cage were two big milestones in that regard.
1:59:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Big deal, see, I'm absolutely.
1:59:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But, yeah, it's about to Kevin Klein-Pay's a character who doesn't realize he's queer, and he's about to get married to Joan Kewsack.
1:59:42
[SPEAKER_05]: And then he's accidentally outed on live television when one of his former acting students, uh, it wins an Oscar, and he's like, yes, I want to dedicate this to my high school drama teacher, and he's gay, and Kevin times like, I am!
1:59:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Am I?
1:59:55
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like the day before he gets married, so it throws everything out of whack.
1:59:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't use that got an Oscar nomination because she's just that fucking funny in that movie.
2:00:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you people know how many times I don't watch funny lady?
2:00:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a sequel!
2:00:07
[SPEAKER_00]: You're in under contract!
2:00:10
[SPEAKER_05]: So great.
2:00:11
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, the kind of the drawing that's part is actually a bit minor in that.
2:00:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Same reason why I almost picked Polite Society.
2:00:17
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the one about the two Indian British girls, one of whom ends up in an arranged marriage.
2:00:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't see them.
2:00:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what.
2:00:26
[SPEAKER_05]: It wants to be a stunt woman.
2:00:28
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's convinced that her sister is making a terrible decision in that she's getting married to a bad guy.
2:00:33
[SPEAKER_05]: And she wants to use all of her stunt fighting skills to save her, but she's probably overthinking it.
2:00:40
[SPEAKER_05]: not really great in the romance angle.
2:00:42
[SPEAKER_05]: It's actually very cynical about the romance, but it's really fun.
2:00:45
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm bummed that that movie didn't get more attention.
2:00:48
[SPEAKER_05]: It's an incredibly fun film.
2:00:49
[SPEAKER_05]: The more people should see that.
2:00:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I was very tempted to pick 1970's sex comedy.
2:00:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm very fond of
2:00:59
[SPEAKER_05]: which is about a guy who decides he's been living to a concert of a life he wants to have a more sexually more sexual exploration in his life and at least a lot of kind of wacky obvious situations and then gets gradually more revolutionary over time until the movie ends with all of the characters living in a polyamorous queer friendly utopian future.
2:01:25
[SPEAKER_05]: I gotta see this, man.
2:01:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a wild film.
2:01:28
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so, it's so great.
2:01:29
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so ahead of its time.
2:01:31
[SPEAKER_05]: It's bizarre, but it's so great.
2:01:32
[SPEAKER_05]: A big fan of, and I couldn't figure out where this, this would have to be like a centerpiece and another kind of take.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Michael Bolton's big sexy Valentine's Day special.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: which is an amazing Netflix TV movie that's kind of like a special, but the plot is Santa Claus goes up to Michael Bolton and says, Michael, we don't have enough children to give all these gifts to you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You need to make everyone fuck in the first quarter of the year so that I can give enough presence on Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Michael Bolton's like, I'll do a Valentine's Day special.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll do the sexiest way I can.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Since I was like, you know, playing like Roman holiday and a couple of other like ringers, I thought it would be really, really fun to see how long it would take people in the audience who didn't know about the movie audition to figure out what was gonna happen to them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that, ah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is you say audition, most people know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people know what it is, not everyone does, and it's really frustrating to recommend the people who don't because they're the perfect people to see it, and I will not tell you about it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But if you don't know what that movie is, or what it's going to transform into over time,
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's the most amazing thing you've ever seen to watch people realize where the film is going.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And, but I've had, like, to you recommend this movie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I do recommend this movie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, what's it about?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I literally can't tell you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They would ruin the entire thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You just have to trust me on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that would have been a fun idea to like have movies that start as romances and turn into something and that's not a romance Yeah, I don't know how many of those artists are like right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I come to mind I recognize.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they do really really great pick.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, um, I mean I'd great film.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a fun film, but it's a great Valentine's Day twist to root
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[SPEAKER_05]: I almost picked Grease 2.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Grease 2 is fun, I don't care anyone who says otherwise it's wrong.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I, for the longest time the first film I was going to show was down with love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Which I love, it's this wonderful door-stay rock Hudson throwback with Renee Zellwager and you and McGregor with incredible production design, incredible caution design and one of the greatest twists and movie history.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mentioned already, almost a billion.
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[SPEAKER_05]: which is brand new, but it is like new that we can.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's incredibly romantic and kinky and kink-possitive, and it's really great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Another film I thought about doing it at the beginning, but I realized that as great a romantic as it is, and I think it was one thing a lot of people love about it, they probably would attract the wrong overall crowd, but the mass-presoro.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, it's a really good crossover because it's an action movie, but really Antonio Ben Deris and Catherine Zeta Jones of the whole film Yeah, they're so fucking hot for each other in that film.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That one and from a couple years later, the mummy has similar vibes Yeah, yeah, yeah, like they're in action movie and they're fun in that regard, but they work
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[SPEAKER_05]: because the chemistry between the romantic leads is genuinely great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, the Palm Beach stories, my favorite, uh, press and surges film.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, it's a very odd, rom-com about people who start, who start the movie married, uh, but their lives aren't going great and they're not making money.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So she was like, okay, in order to save this marriage, I need to get divorced.
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[SPEAKER_05]: and marry a rich guy so that I can finance the guy I actually love's dreams and then he ends up chasing all the way to Palm Beach because that's a stupid plan.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's really, really funny.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Unfortunately, on fire, one of the guys' romances ever told, great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Earth girls are easy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I figured you're probably gonna get everyone's energy up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And at night, it's a good choice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a really, really fun flick.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you've never seen it, the most 80s fucking film imaginable, it's so great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Another movie that we probably have to play early in the evening because it's great, but mild, the taste of things.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a truly wonderful, truly wonderful food-based romance.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Great, funny, quirky, rom-com, could have replaced it with a number of things, with sleeping with other people.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a, I'm such a fan, it's so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Leslie Hedland, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, a movie which shouldn't be as funny as it is, but of this entire generation, it's probably the funniest one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Not another teen movie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Which makes fun of all of like the late 90s, early 2000s, like teen romances, but it really skewers them hard, actually.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like there's some really great gags in it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Another Meg Ryan movie I'm very fond of.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The doesn't get enough love, it's French kiss.
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[SPEAKER_05]: French kiss is very sort of her and Kevin Klein doing kind of a outrageous French accent, but he's really good at it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Another parody film, but I'm so in love with it, they came together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They came together, certainly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Which is a parody of all those Meg Ryan 90s rom-coms, and it is merciless.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But it's merciless in a way that could only be done with love.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You have to love those movies to know them well enough to do what they came together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: New York is a character in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, another one that I thought could get everyone's attention at the end, and this is a bizarre fucking film.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The big hit with Mark Wohlberg and Lou Diamond Phillips.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've very Brooks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Lou, Mark Wohlberg plays the nicest hitman in the world, but he's also engaged to be married.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And he just wants the family to like him and he's a total pushover.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But then he's responsible for like kidnapping, like a millionaires daughter.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then he starts falling in love with her instead with his really awkward.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, it's a, it's a, it's an absolutely like, it's a cacophony of weird tonal shifts, but like the action is really, really good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The romance is better than you think, like it's, it's just an odd film, but it would keep your attention.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then lastly, I was thinking initially for the last film, uh, what's the movie equivalent of, uh, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here, get the fuck out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I used to go to a bar and at the end of the night, they would turn on all the lights really bright and play things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, cheers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They played the theme from cheers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They played the record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They played the record, the admin Fitzgerald.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or closing time, what else have been going.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, so what's the movie version of that?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And my two options were exit to Eden.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, which is about two cops who go undercover at a BDSM sex island.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's awful.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the one that probably would have sent people screaming out of the theater and then you wouldn't you wouldn't even finish it Heartbeeps I Andy Kaufman and burn it at Peter's robots who fall in love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think about heartbeeps and then I had better thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes You were like I mean, I know what I need to do natural born killers not heartbeeps Natural born killers is a good romance
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[SPEAKER_05]: Compared to heartbeats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes it is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've rather watched that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's got amazing makeup design, Stan Winston did it, it was Oscar nominated, but it is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's insufferable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's in fucking Terminable, like it's not funny, it's really fucking slowly paced.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, it put out this met a lot on the makeup with a rest day lately like filmed in a park like they're just wandering around in the wilderness And you think like, oh, I'm gonna hand it off and actually start in a movie with burn it at beaters This has got to be the best movie of all time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a reason you haven't heard of it It's a Business Uh, so I thought that would be a fun way to just end the night seriously like you can go home now Like Ferris Bueller at the end.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's over.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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