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The Rocky Horror Picture Show · The Art of Costume Podcast

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Right here. Me out Elizabeth.
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I feel like you and Brad would be good together.
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Why are you so rude? I mean just picture.
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He's all, he has kind of like, like a nerdy stature, but he's
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still attractive and he's cool, and he's attractive.
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He's looking out for Janet the whole time.
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Hello, and welcome to the art of costume on those with joy glass.
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And I'm dr. Spence and furter.
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Hello Elizabeth. Hello dr.
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Friend. I can't, I don't even know what
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you just said there. Dr. Spence and furter, I
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practice my walk. This Earning Spence inverter.
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There we go. There we go.
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What's up? Elizabeth?
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Nothing much working. Why was that?
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There was a little bit of a pause?
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No, I'm just thinking about my life working with the theater
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again, which is cool. That's exciting fine.
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Yeah, it's you should leave was the theater part.
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Wait, what are you doing in the theater?
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I'm excited about this. We're doing.
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Jesus Christ Superstar. Yes, that's so cool.
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Yeah, I'm excited. Working on the costume.
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Crew working on the costume crew?
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Yes, because you could not get me into a musical driving.
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A, I will not doing musical talking about the sternum
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musical Cabaret month, but whatever it is, I love them.
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You Call. I love a musical.
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Have no desire to get up on stage and perform said musical.
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So yeah, at the beginning of that.
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And then we have so much stuff going on between podcast and
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blog. Oh, yes, crazy.
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I know it's busy. It's confusing.
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I barely even know what title and talking about at all times.
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This is very true, but yesterday was exciting for you.
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Oh my gosh. Yes.
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Oh By the time you hearing this, was it June?
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Yeah. So yesterday, our friend, Kate
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Hawley costume designer, of Crimson Peak, and the Lord of
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the Rings, the rings of power was in town, and I moderated a
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Q&A with her at the costume designers Guild.
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So that was so fun. And thank you to everyone who
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came out. If you didn't hear about it and
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you're like, what the heck, I believe the costume designers
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Guild, as posting it on YouTube, at some point there.
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Lots of cameras. So they're recording it for
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somebody, so I'm assuming it's a public audience.
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Yes, but yeah, so fine. And actually kinda reminded me.
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Maybe this is a good time for you.
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And I had to make like a little kind of a sneak peek
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announcement because, you know, today, we're talking about
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musical which happens to be kind of spooky and people celebrate
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like Halloween and June and July, you know, kind of, to get
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start to get hyped. Yeah, that's true.
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That's true. True.
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And then I talked to Kate Holly yesterday and I just thought
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maybe it's a good time to say that you know maybe Elizabeth
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and I have some plans of Kate Holly for Halloween season so
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stay tuned for that. Yeah everybody stay tuned and
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then I've been here in the making here in the making.
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I like I feel like especially this year.
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We've been like Crossing stuff off our like podcast like bucket
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list. Yeah.
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Lily. We're like Halloween and
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Christmas. What are our goals but that
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brings me to happy two-year anniversary.
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Spencer oh my gosh no way this is our two-year anniversary
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episode oh my God. That's sick.
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I didn't realize that yes oh my gosh.
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What do we have cake or something?
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I feel so under prepared. Now, me too.
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I only realized this last night when I was like, looking through
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like the spreadsheet of When things are gonna be posted, I
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was like, oh, this is this, is that this is that episode, that
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is embarrassing. But I can't think of a better
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episode of celebrate actually, because this is a real party
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episode. But something said like thank
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you all so much for listening. It's kind of crazy how fast it's
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like podcast is kind of blown up for us.
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It was I always bring of like the karela and Captain America
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like Messi episodes that we were just like doing that have a good
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time and now I feel like the podcast is growing at a rate
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that sometimes I feel like we can't even handle.
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Yes, and thank you all for that. It is so appreciated and we're
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glad you enjoy what costume and learning about it and us talking
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about it. Yeah.
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And all the great guess, we've had along the way and of course
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our beloved Lord, Daniel who makes it all happen.
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None of it would be possible without him.
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Ously. I mean like 100% where after
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Captain America. Yeah if it was not for Daniel.
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Yeah. So I wake up everyday thankful
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for him and thankful for you Elizabeth.
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Thank you Spencer. And thank you for being like hey
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we should do. You should come help me on the
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Vlog and then thing like hey let's do a podcast.
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This was not on my radar to do in my life.
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No thank you. I feel the same way.
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Never on my radar. But if that, I think we should
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throw like a funky party this week for our musical Cabaret
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month. Absolutely.
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Spencer, what did we watch this week?
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This week? We watch the infamous to
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Legendary The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
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And I am so excited also because this was not on a regularly,
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scheduled programming for this month, but something's changed
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and Elizabeth was like, do I do Rocky Horror?
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And I kind of spit my water out, because I was so out of Out of
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left field. And I was like, yes immediately.
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Yeah, it is so exciting because like I said, watch this, it's
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like it's definitely like just a part of American culture, this
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movie and the stage play and I had only seen it once before and
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I was always like, no, like, I'd liked it and then I was like,
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when we were trying to like, you know, rearrange our schedule, I
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was trying to think like, what would fit This month and I was
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like, oh wait, Rocky Horror? Like of course.
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Yeah, it's I've seen it a thousand times and it's just,
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you're right. It's so engraved until like
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American culture, Theatre musicals, or I mean it's just
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everything and just think of like the legendary cast that's
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in this you know, Susan Sarandon and Tim Curry.
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I just yeah, it's a credible film.
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It just makes you feel happy. Also kind of hello.
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Weird. It's also extremely.
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We've talked about this before extremely horny Vibes, the show.
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Absolutely just off the chart. On the horny meter is it
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definitely is and Spencer. Why don't you starts with a
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summary? Okay, so Elizabeth and I were so
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excited. I, of course forgot to write a
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summary. So instead of me writing one,
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Elizabeth was like, wait, you should actually just try to just
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Do it by memory. So here is my summary of Rocky
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Horror Picture. Show, a newly brought together
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couple who's going to be getting married?
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What's the word engaged? A newly engaged, couple gets a
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flat tire and ends up at a spooky Castle full of People and
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cool outfits from Transylvania and a mad scientist, who makes a
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super hot guy and a gold Speedo fall in.
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Love with everybody and then they all hook up but then he mad
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at each other for game, you know, hooked up and stuff but
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then he liked it but then he gets upset and kills meatloaf
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and then turns people to statues and the transylvanians actually
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like we gotta get out of here and you And then they leave back
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to Transylvania. And that is Rocky.
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Horror Picture Show. That was a beautiful
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description. Thank you, Spencer.
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If you have not seen The Rocky Horror Picture Show or the stage
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play, watch it because like you can't understand what we're
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talking about, what CeCe? Yeah, well you just can't.
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There's no way it's pretty wild. It is wild and it was wild As we
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go behind the costumes, we have director Jin Sharman and costume
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designer, Sue Lane. You will know her work from Lady
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Jane. The drought means contract for
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which she got a bafta nomination and the Porgy and Bess.
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American Playhouse great performance.
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Special, for which she got an Emmy nomination.
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And what's doesn't seem like a lot.
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She has spent the majority of her career designing sets and
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costumes for ballet theater and Opera, mmm.
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She received a MBE in 2007 and is a royal designer for industry
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which she received in 2005. Wow.
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So she has twice been recognized by the British royal family for
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her work. Work in theater and the Arts.
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We bow to thee. Yes.
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But when I came to Rocky Horror Picture Show, she was first
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designed the play, the original run of The Rocky Horror Show.
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However, she wasn't really interested in doing it but then
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Jim was like, let's hang out and the LA Times quoted her saying
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Jim and I got along like a house on fire While he was outlining
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the plot. We got incredibly drunk and then
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went around the Royal Court theater.
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When I realized that Tim Curry and some other friends of mine
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were going to be in it. I thought oh this is the
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beginning to sound like a wonderful idea by 3:00 in the
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morning with the start of a start of a terrible hangover.
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I was doing Rocky well, right? I'm like, whoa.
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That was like What a way to get a job.
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She just like, wasn't really. There was like, no budget for
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it. She was like I just like this is
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not something I feel like doing and then she actually met with
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Jim and was like, okay she had she knew Tim Curry had done a
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play with him recently so she's like well I liked him Curry.
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And I'm going to be working with friends so like I guess, yeah.
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And the look is something that you can't.
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You can't mistake Rocky Horror. Or for anything else.
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No. And I like Heinz quotes her as
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saying for the inspiration behind Rocky that it was the
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beginning of glitter Rock, the look was showing up in Chelsea
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and Kings Road. The reason the costumes were a
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hit, is we had picked up on something that had just begun.
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Hmm, so yeah, she was like, picking up on like the cultural
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Zeitgeist was like, okay let's like, get into this and The
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costumes as the LA Times quotes here at we're not something she
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was used to doing. She said at the time, they were
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quite anarchic from a costume point of view to see the body so
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close. And so rough was a terrific
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shock unless you were used to seeing strip shows now.
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They don't seem so shocking. You see people in the tube
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station that look far more bizarre and with less clothing.
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That's fair. Yeah.
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Yes. So, but at the time, and like
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the early 70s, this was like, very, very different.
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Yeah. I mean, even today, I feel like
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when I see Rocky, I'm just like, well, this is yeah.
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Very different, very different. I mean, I feel like it's
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something we're much more used to it now, but then it was a
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no-go. And then nowadays, it's just
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like, it's such a specific look. Yeah, that you're like, oh,
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Rocky Horror and like, you don't really Anywhere else but you're
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like that is Rocky Horror. Yeah.
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And we'll talk about later but you know, it's become such like
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a cult classic and people recreating these costumes all
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the time for their own, you know, performances or just
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screenings. I mean, Rocky Horror just
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transcends time it does and after she did though, London run
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of the show, she also went to Australia to design the first
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run of Rocky or in Australia and I believe she did the first run.
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One, which was unsuccessful in America.
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And so she spent a couple of years doing Rocky and then it
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was such a success that they were like oh let's do a movie of
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it and she had no interest, she had no interest in doing the
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movie especially for, are you ready to know the budget of
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Rocky Horror Picture Show classroom Department Spencer?
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I'm very nervous $1600. But that's crazy 600.
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Hmm, how I don't know. No way.
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So she had quite the challenge in front of her, but was
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convinced to come back and design the movie.
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And with that, let's take a little break.
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I am shivering with anticipate. Patient.
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Elizabeth, are you ready for a wedding?
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Kind of, I kind of forgot that the it started with a wedding
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when I re-watched it. This morning, right?
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I forgot about that whole like opening song of theirs.
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And also it was until I was doing the research that I
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realized, like all these people are also like the
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transylvanians. Okay, that's what I thought when
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I was re watching it this morning.
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I'm like these people look familiar.
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But yeah, the priest is Tim Curry which it's like it's
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shocking to see him look like that.
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Oh, okay. Seen this a thousand times.
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And today was the first time I noticed I was like, wait, that's
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Tim Curry? I like maybe I would have.
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Like I literally just as I was Doing the research.
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They were like, oh yeah, everybody is in this opening
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scene. I was like, oh, okay great,
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we're done. Anyways, it's just, I mean, I
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feel like that's something you would pick up on like a second
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watch of a movie. Not necessarily like the first
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you're right. But I love this scene just
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because it's so, it's the exact opposite of what the rest of the
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film is going to be? Yeah, I mean it's very
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sophisticated. Kate also, I would say like it's
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giving like 70s wedding Vibes, you know.
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It's feels very like actually in the period.
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So it just really Blends in and it kind of almost like sets you
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up for like this big. And once we actually get to the
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castle you're like, okay, this is a pretty wild horriffic
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sci-fi movie. It's so much fun.
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I love two colors that they use for the wedding to all the like
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pinks and whites and some blues yellows.
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It's really fun and spring. Like absolutely.
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And it's so contrast when they get to the castle.
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Yes. And that contrast was and was
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not exactly what Sue was going for.
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As she told The Rocky Horror Picture, Show official magazine
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in 1979. She said their costumes took a
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lot of work and I'm not at all pleased with the results.
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What? In the first 20 minutes of the
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film was supposed to be in black and white.
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And the transylvanians played a key part in the color switch, in
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the black-and-white sequence. They looked quite proper dressed
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in their tuxedos, but when the film went to color you suddenly,
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you were suddenly supposed to notice that underneath their
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conventional jackets, they were wearing these ridiculously
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bright shirts. Mmm, I was hoping it would be
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really a really magical Check moment under the circumstances.
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It wasn't get her disappointment.
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Yeah, no. That would have been a cool
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transition. But it's funny because these are
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actually my favorite costumes in the film.
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I really love the Transylvanian costumes.
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I've just always been to me like so Punk.
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But you know fun and colorful they were wearing like the
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coolest glasses very fashion-forward.
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I've just always loved these costumes so I I love them to,
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I'd kind of forgotten about the transylvanians, and when I saw
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them, I was like, oh yeah, this like, openings.
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Like I remember like the song and, like the opening sequence,
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but not like the Transylvanian specifically, and then it's just
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like, oh, they're like fun and bright.
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And it's like, they're like wacky, but also like reserved in
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a way that the rest of them aren't I'm like this is like it
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just adds to like the whole like strangeness of the situation,
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right? I'm warp is forever iconic.
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It's probably the best. I don't know, three minutes of
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film ever. It's just brilliant.
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I could watch it over and over and over.
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Absolutely. And then I especially love
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Colombia in this opening scene. Yeah, because I'm just like, oh,
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so many sequins that look so good.
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I love that. I love Colombia's costume.
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I was always fascinated with like the sequined top.
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Does she Is wearing and the bow tie.
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Yeah, I do. It gives me very like, like,
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late 2010 zwipes. Hmm.
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Like I feel like this was very much a look, so, maybe like,
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that's why I like New Year's Eve type of look.
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Yeah, but when designing, the overall look of Rocky, she
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explained it to the official magazine saying when I designed
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Rocky. I never looked at any science
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fiction movies or comic books. One just automatically knows
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what space suits look like the same way, one intuitively knows
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how Americans dress. I had never been to the United
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States, but I had this fixed idea of how people looked there
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Americans were polyester so their clothes wouldn't crease
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and their trousers were a bit too short since they're very
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keen on Sports, White Sox and T, white t-shirts play.
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It in an integral part in their wardrobe.
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Of course, since doing Rocky, I have been to the United States
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and admit it was a bit of a generalization, but my ideas
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worked perfectly for Brad and Janet, buddy.
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I love that. Like, cause this is like a
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science fiction movie technically, right?
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And I love that. She was like, yeah, like
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everybody knows what science fiction looks like.
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That's not what I was going for, but everybody also knows what
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America. Look like and that's what I was
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going for. Yeah.
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This interview, she's like, yeah, they weren't polyester and
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ill fitting pants and probably red and white stripes and stuff
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like that. That's not too far off for the
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70s, like obviously, but he was definitely wearing polyester in
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the 70s. That's a fair point.
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To very fair point, but I do love Janet played.
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By Susan Sarandon who because like, I always see, Susan
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Sarandon and very like, like strong female roles and then
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this, she such like a fainting like almost Victorian lady.
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And I'm like, Susan Sarandon. Yeah, I love this role.
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I have a big crush on Susan Sarandon in his movie.
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As Janet said, she's just brilliant.
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And I love like that first costume.
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She's wearing that pink. Just kind of like really proper
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dress, if the white sweater over it, she just looks so adorable.
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So cute. So innocent and vulnerable,
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which really plays into it like the Ark of her character
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throughout this wild hour and a half.
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Yeah, long-lived Susan, Sarandon.
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Absolutely. And I also like Brad played by
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Barry Bostwick like he's annoying, but he's like that.
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At American Boy Scout annoying. So you don't like exactly where
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he's coming from all the time. All right, here me out
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Elizabeth. I feel like you and Brad would
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be good together. Why are you so rude?
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I mean, just picture it. He's tall.
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He has kind of like a nerdy stature, but he's still
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attractive and he's cool and he said, he wasn't attracted.
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He Looking out for Janet the whole time.
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Is he, though, cuz from the very beginning, she's like, yo, we
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should get out of here and he's like, no, we need to use the
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phone, which like through, but they also could have just waited
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in the car till morning. They weren't gonna freeze to
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death. He really wanted to use their
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phone which like I get but also like clearly something was going
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on here that she picked up on and he did not.
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But if you're all listening, please write in and let us know
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if you feel like Elizabeth and Brad would be good together and
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answer the art of costume at gmail.com.
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Anyways, I'm of the show with the show on with magenta played
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by Patricia Quinn. I love magenta.
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I think she's my favorite character.
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She is like, so hilarious. And I love how the whole time.
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She's just like I am here to get what I want.
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Which is back to Transylvania. Yeah, I've Loved this portrayal
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of magenta forever mean she's like kind of goth and edgy a
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little bit vampire spooky. And her voice is like so cool.
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Whenever she sings. I'm, she's perfect.
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She is. And she was one of the
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characters. Got got quite the change up from
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her stage. Look Sue.
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Blaine said. She was supposed to be the maid
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but we ignored that in the original and made her into this
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vampire lady, she was much more interesting as a vamp bet than
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as a maid. But in the film, she had to have
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a function. When we put a feather duster in
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her hand, I just had to add a little apron.
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She was like, yeah. And Hebron, a feather duster.
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You're good. You're a maid.
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There you go. She's a maid now.
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That's so fun. Yeah, I love like it is like
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just traditional made but like you're right in the most like
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punk way possible. Yeah, she's very rock and roll.
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Also very rock and roll. We have dr.
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Frank inverter. Oh man.
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The legend, everyone knows this character.
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Even if you haven't seen Rocky Horror Picture Show, you know
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Tim Curry is portrayal of frank-n-furter you do you do and
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one of the things Sue did for Rocky Horror was she kind of had
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like decades assigned for a lot of the characters?
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However, she said for frank-n-furter, well, who knows
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what period he's coming from? I like Seuss style, honestly,
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right, right. I do I do this.
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I don't know. Sure.
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No, she's a vampire. Give her a feather duster
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though. Yeah, this look is Leave the
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most iconic I would say, from Rocky Horror the garters, the
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pearl necklace with like the corset.
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It's like oh yes. This is Rocky Horror right here.
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It's brilliant, it's hot. It's cool fashionable I love the
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pearls. That's like my favorite element
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to the costume along with the Garter.
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I mean I've seen this done so many times by so many different
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people at such like and iconic costume.
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Absolutely, and it just gets more iconic.
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When dr. Frank inverter, is in the lab
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with a green, like medical dress.
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That's my favorite frank-n-furter costume actually,
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because I love the way that, that green of the lab coat works
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with like the pale makeup faith, that he's, that they're putting
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on with the pink gloves. That's like, if I were to do any
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of these costumes for like Halloween or something, could be
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that one specifically. I yeah, you could pull that off.
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Thank you very well. I just think like, I know what
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looks good on you. I do love how it contrasts
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against Rocky, who is literally just wearing, like a gold
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swimsuit? Yeah, I just don't understand
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why you thought that costume, when it looked better on me than
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the lab coat. That's what I was getting at,
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but you mentioned wanting to wear that one.
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So sorry I supported you. You yeah so Rocky is really
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being made as Like the quote unquote perfect man and
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frank-n-furter's image. So yeah.
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He's just wearing a gold swimsuit.
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Barely wearing anything and he's wearing gold shoes too.
27:56
Right. Yeah.
27:58
He's wearing like old boxing shoes.
28:00
Yeah. Which is just the golden.
28:03
Yes. But I love like The Mummy
28:06
wrappings. He has on at first and how like
28:09
they undress because I was like when I first saw it because that
28:13
Another thing I'd forgotten about was like his, like, mummy
28:15
wrappings and I was like, are they gonna like unfurl him?
28:18
Like, what is happening? And then the way it came off in,
28:21
like, the pieces, I was like. That's brilliant.
28:24
It's so cool. I love how they make Rocky to
28:26
look like a statue. You know, like even the way we
28:29
just standing there, he's just kind of like flexing kind of
28:32
looking like the statue of David or something.
28:35
I think I think if I write a rock he's played by a Peter
28:41
Henwood and I think he is just a model.
28:44
Hey I mean it did the trick. Yeah so it's like perfect
28:49
especially considering I didn't talk that much.
28:51
Who did do quite a bit was Meatloaf.
28:57
Another thing I didn't know till I did, the research was that
29:00
that was mitla. That's so brilliant which I bet
29:03
you know meatloaf actually just passed away not too long ago so
29:07
total rest in peace, lots of lots of love for the Legacy left
29:12
behind. This character being one of them
29:14
is so, such a fun character. We only have them for a few
29:18
minutes. Yes.
29:20
And like, he has such a big impact on the movie for such a
29:25
short amount of time that he's in it.
29:28
So you said that Eddie was straight out of the 50s.
29:32
He was a mixture between Hell's Angel and a Teddy boy, the
29:36
English equivalent. And it's like, yeah, you can see
29:38
that you can see that. Yeah, I think this is the
29:42
character that's like, Most easy to understand when he pulls in
29:45
on the motorcycle. Yeah, okay, yeah, I know that
29:47
guy. I don't know what else is going
29:49
on here but I know that guy absolutely.
29:52
You're like oh yeah he's a Hells Angel sure I believe that and
29:58
then of course like he and Columbia are together to.
30:01
They're just like the perfect match.
30:02
Also it just everything. This is a scene in a movie that
30:06
made the most sense you know honestly yeah.
30:10
Yeah up until the part he's Murdered again because I feel
30:14
like, I don't know. I feel like he died in a
30:18
motorcycle accident was brought back and then put into freeze.
30:20
I don't know. Whoa, I believe I read that
30:24
maybe. I don't know, but I know that
30:26
Frank inferred use part of his brain to create Rocky his that,
30:29
what I read correctly. That's right.
30:31
Yes. So he's part of a all the like
30:33
Rocky Horror superfans. I like come on guys, come on,
30:40
moving on. One of my favorite looks He's
30:43
from this though is Colombia's like nighttime.
30:46
Look with the Mickey Mouse ears. It's so creepy.
30:50
The seed, I don't know about taking something so, soft and
30:54
gentle, and loving as Mickey Mouse ears, and I'm putting it
30:58
on her and this, like, creepy slumber party scene, it's kind
31:02
of creepy and I love it. It's giving like, murderous I, I
31:07
kind of love it because I feel like that's very, like, Colombia
31:10
just like, is here to have a good time and Hank is very like
31:14
sweet and nice but like, can't be in this situation.
31:20
Yeah, and then she's not wearing makeup, or at least not a lot of
31:24
makeup in this one seemed to. So it's just, it feels like a
31:27
total different character with her bright red, fiery hair.
31:31
She just looks wild in this moment and I love it.
31:34
Absolutely. I also love the dinner scene.
31:39
Usually magenta's new look because I'm like, that must be
31:42
more. Like what she looks like in the
31:44
stage play. Definitely, yeah.
31:46
She's looking a lot more sensual.
31:49
For sure. She looks hot.
31:51
She looks good. She looks so good.
31:53
And even riffraff who we have really talked about too much.
31:57
Yes, I can open sure he's kind of flex in a little bit to
32:01
everyone's gain a little, get a, little dinner sexy for dinner
32:05
tonight. I do love riff-raffs whole
32:10
wardrobe. Richard O'Brien is Riff Raff and
32:16
he does such a good job in this, especially because like He's
32:20
like an attractive man, but they make him like, like the costume.
32:26
The like way he walks like the wig, I'm like, oh yeah, Brian,
32:31
it's kind of scary, and I love it.
32:33
But I do love the big shoulder pad moment.
32:35
You know how I feel about a shoulder pad.
32:37
I know they're trying to give him a little over and they're
32:40
trying to give them a little bit of like a hunchback, but to me
32:43
it's just giving, like, kind of like wounded, but fashionable,
32:47
not so much Hunchback, you know. Well, I just feel like this is
32:50
my direction in life. Honestly, if we're looking at 30
32:53
40 years from now, when we're on like season, 20 of the art of
32:57
costume blogcast. All right, I'll plan
33:00
accordingly. I'll just start looking more
33:04
like magenta, it's fine but I feel like that's just like his
33:08
what he thinks he's supposed to look like as like a butler and
33:12
I'm like that's such a while take but okay.
33:15
Another look, I actually love and I want to bring up is
33:19
Furthers jacket that he is before dinner.
33:24
It's so good with the pearls and all the patches and all the
33:27
embellishments on this jacket again.
33:30
It's very punk. I don't know if I've ever really
33:32
thought about the pumpkin influences on you know.
33:37
Rocky Horror I need to do some more research into that.
33:41
Yeah I think it definitely is its I feel like what suited was
33:45
really pick up on like the emerging Trends and just Put
33:49
them all into Rocky, which is probably why it's so unique
33:54
looking even after all these years.
33:56
Yeah, I mean that that's a look that I could see like Gaga
33:59
wearing. Yeah, I'll just like, in
34:02
everyday life. So and then finally, we have the
34:06
floor show which I had somehow also forgotten about.
34:12
It's been such an I didn't realize how long it's been since
34:14
I saw this movie, like I thought I remembered the movie and then
34:18
I was like, No, I did in. Yeah, we tend to think of, like,
34:22
Time Warp or, you know, damn it Taylor Sweet Transvestite.
34:27
So by the time you get to this part of movie, your brains kind
34:30
of wiped, you know, that's very true.
34:33
And it's just like, it's so brilliant.
34:36
And so you talked about the scene a little bit saying the
34:41
corsets alone cost $200. And there was the problem of the
34:45
pool sequence. We needed several courses, so
34:48
one could Dry out while the other one was in the water.
34:51
I love it. It's almost like this is the
34:54
beginning signs of like buying duplicates for costume.
34:58
Design, can you know, like this is record and 79 people like oh
35:01
my gosh, we had to get more than one costume, can't believe it.
35:06
I love it. They've been doing it forever
35:08
but I'm sure she was just like, of course they added a pool to
35:11
the right. I would be a little upset too.
35:15
Yes. Absolutely.
35:17
But I do. I do love like They all just
35:20
like perfectly match at the ends.
35:24
It's brilliant. I'm like, this is just like the
35:25
perfect end to this wild wild show.
35:29
I love it and it's kind of like built to the kind of customized
35:32
to each character a little bit. You know, like the different
35:35
cuts of their corsets. It's a lot of fun and I'm like,
35:39
wow, like does it get better from here?
35:42
And then, it does like, this end sequence, really brings it all
35:46
because you have Riff Raff and magenta.
35:49
Gotta and all they're like Transylvanian Glory being like
35:53
we gotta get out of here. I love it.
35:57
This is when they go full science fiction, very spooky,
36:01
Bride of Frankenstein to the left.
36:05
I don't really know how to describe riff-raffs.
36:07
I get really stuck on the hair. It's such a choice, it's what
36:13
they're doing but it's so wild. It's so weird, it's crazy.
36:19
And talking about it a little bit.
36:22
So, you said, I think the most important thing about this is
36:26
that there's a lot of love in it.
36:27
I don't mean that in an emotional sense, but in the care
36:32
that was taken to make things work details were very important
36:35
to us. For example, Brian came up with
36:38
the idea of the Transylvanian logo which was that little bolt
36:42
of lightning, which you see on the Griffins and on ref wrath
36:48
and magenta's. Ace outfit.
36:50
I carried over the motif to the transylvanians, who all wear
36:54
these little lightning bolt pins on their sleeves.
36:57
It's these little touches that make Rocky work.
37:01
Hmm. And it's like, yeah, and I did
37:04
I, that's another thing. I didn't notice till this time
37:06
around, I did the research and I was like, oh let me let me see
37:09
and it's like, you see this little lightning bolt like all
37:12
over the place? Yeah, it's a good point.
37:14
I tend to, I feel like people tend to think of the rocky
37:18
horror costumes is It is cheap Cabaret costumes.
37:22
Maybe, cheap, South, right word. But just like, they're just like
37:24
fun, quirky costumes. But there actually is a lot of
37:28
great detail in them along. Great motifs, you know, pins and
37:32
just even looking at the textiles and fabrics of these
37:35
two costumes in particular, it looks really well done for a
37:39
sixteen. Hundred dollar budget.
37:42
Yeah. This is incredible work.
37:44
You know, it blows my mind. That that was the budget.
37:49
It. Absolutely.
37:50
And it has, you know, it has survived time and people started
37:58
dressing up like Rocky very, very early.
38:02
And she said to the official magazine, unless you've really
38:06
witnessed it, you can't comprehend it.
38:08
People would say, to me, you ought to see this thing.
38:10
The kids are actually dressing up from my point of view.
38:14
I thought it would be just a group of tacky kids and awful
38:18
makeup. Pair of high heels.
38:20
I was just amazed at how good they looked what the kids have
38:24
actually understood is the whole look of the costume.
38:28
They've managed to get the silhouette right.
38:30
Their costumes aren't just a conglomeration of details, but a
38:34
whole coherent shape. And that was from 1979 to think
38:40
that is now 2023. And there are still year-round,
38:44
screenings and party. Zabrocki Horror Picture Show,
38:48
just blows my mind. And I mean, people work really
38:51
hard on these costumes to which they might be spending upwards
38:55
of $1600 honestly like together whole stage shows.
38:59
So it just really shows the power of costume designing and
39:03
storytelling. You know that collaboration
39:06
between the two worlds and yeah, it's this is kind of like an
39:10
ideation of everything that we do here.
39:12
I really love it. Rocky Horror just as such like a
39:15
great example, it really is. And it's a you know, a
39:19
television. ^ theater and what we all do?
39:23
Like because this is a lot of a lot of people's entrance into
39:27
theater work. The theater world is through
39:30
doing the play or being part of a shadow cast.
39:32
So it really has an important Place.
39:36
Yeah, I'm jealous. I've never been to a screening
39:38
before. So if anyone knows of any hit
39:42
Elizabeth tonight up, cuz we'll be there, please.
39:47
I want to do one that sounds so fun, I'm Joe.
39:49
Ellis, I really want to go to 12.
39:52
They sound fun. And what would you wear?
39:55
Oh my gosh, that's such a good question.
39:58
Probably a magenta look. Okay, yeah, I see that.
40:01
I feel like that's easy for you to do.
40:04
Like I feel like that's an easy transition.
40:06
Yeah. That or Columbia's first like
40:10
glittery. Look.
40:11
Okay. If you want like a little bit of
40:13
a challenge. Mhm.
40:14
Mhm. Yeah.
40:16
I feel like I would do really well in a gold Speedo, but Just
40:19
for like practicality Reasons, I'm doing green lab coat with
40:23
the pink gloves. Okay?
40:25
Okay. I don't think I could show that
40:29
much body and with that we have come to the end of Rocky Horror
40:35
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It's just a jump to the left. Put your hands on your hips.
41:52
And bring your knees in time but it's the pelvic that there is a
41:58
chaise, the insane. I love how they have, like, I
42:03
guess like, that of their official dance of Transylvania.
42:06
I feel like, that's what that is.
42:07
It's the real world actually did the time warp just like as maybe
42:13
instead of the Pledge of Allegiance, let's say.
42:15
I feel like the come together as a nation whether they really
42:19
think so imagine the Super Bowl, all right?
42:21
We get rid of the national anthem, which by the way, I like
42:25
the national anthem. I'm not saying get rid of it,
42:28
but just imagine if our national anthem was a Time Warp, imagine
42:31
how fun America would be. We see so much more fun we would
42:35
get along better. It just said one walks out into
42:38
the field and just here, Dad, Dad, Dad with like guitars
42:42
that's pelvic thrusting. I love this idea.
42:45
Can Daniel if you're listening, can you get a doctor?
42:50
No, not dr. I do I said, Dr. President Joe
42:53
Biden's phone number. You're thinking about his wife,
42:57
Spencer, I started to say Joe, but I felt like I was just gonna
43:00
go straight to the source. She said, help us with this as
43:03
well. I feel like she's like he does
43:05
cultural things vice-presidents definitely into it.
43:09
Yeah, yeah anyways. Okay.
43:11
Have to work on this and we're back from break your right to
43:18
play our favorite game. Definitely.
43:21
The one costume to rule them all.
43:28
Spencer. What was your one costume to
43:30
rule them all? Mine was easy.
43:32
It's always been my favorite costume.
43:33
I'm in love with the Transylvanian Black and White
43:36
costumes that have the fun pops of color.
43:39
They're just fun. It's like a costume.
43:42
I've just always wanted for myself a sophisticated black
43:45
costume with like, some, I what you all should know about me?
43:48
Is I love a funky sunglasses. I don't, I do.
43:53
I love to just get funky. Sunglasses are colorful fun and
43:56
big, which is kind of I wonder if it's because I love to wear
43:59
all black, so maybe that's your way of find like a pop of color.
44:02
So yeah, making some connections there.
44:05
So, yeah, those are my favorite costumes.
44:08
All of the above with the little golden pirate hat on top too.
44:11
I like it, I like it. What about you?
44:15
My one costume to rule them all, I had a hard time with this
44:18
Spencer. Oh, she never really has a hard
44:21
time. I don't usually put.
44:23
This is just packed with so many great looks, but I did go for
44:27
Frank. And dr.
44:29
Frank inverters core look, which is the sequent corset with the
44:36
garters and the fingerless gloves?
44:40
Yeah, that's pearls the tattoo. The hair makeup.
44:44
Everything looks amazing. Everything works.
44:48
Tim Curry Flawless. It's amazing.
44:52
Its iconic because this is one of the looks.
44:54
Were you like yeah? That's Rocky.
44:55
Horror Picture Show. Yeah.
44:56
Okay. I mean Can you think of a more
44:59
iconic costume? Honestly, this is up there with,
45:01
like, Dorothy's, red slippers and share from Clueless, it's
45:06
just that iconic of a costume. Absolutely, absolutely.
45:11
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45:28
well, well, that is a wrap on our musical Cabaret month.
45:33
That was fun. He likes, you know, we did
45:35
burlesque which I love Rocky Horror, but we're came into July
45:40
which I think you already know what that means.
45:45
Speaking of the national anthem. Spencer, we have.
45:49
Once again come to. What is our patriotic duty to
45:54
celebrate America's ass with happen to me.
45:58
Yeah, that will work. Daniel, can you please add in
46:04
like the national anthem at this moment?
46:09
We Salute, You Captain America and that beautiful firm ass.
46:15
I'm really looking forward to our next episode.
46:19
If you want to catch up for the now, two years we've been doing
46:23
this podcast. Every fourth of July, we do a
46:25
Captain America episode. So, So the third one is Civil
46:29
War which I've honestly only think I've seen once so I'm kind
46:33
of excited. Yeah I don't I know two challahs
46:36
in it, which that's going to be fun.
46:39
Yeah, I think it's the first movie with t'challa.
46:43
Yeah. I like it.
46:44
I think it's definitely. I think because it came before,
46:48
like Infinity War. I think it's definitely one that
46:50
kind of takes a backseat people forget about it.
46:54
Okay, let's see, I bet I know the answer to this.
46:56
Are you team Iron Man, or In Captain America.
46:59
I'm team Bucky team Captain America.
47:05
Yeah, yeah, I knew it. I was team Iron Man.
47:11
Yeah, like Iron Man's got a point but also like Iron, Man,
47:15
get it together or this was not the way to go about it.
47:17
Like he needed to think that through a lot more because what
47:22
was proposed, was not okay. Well, let's take the next week
47:26
to think about it. Also may be Maybe we'll, we'll
47:29
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47:31
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48:59
What's up? Hello, are you doing, slides?
49:06
So I don't even say it. Don't don't say it.
49:10
Okay, you can share now down, that was self-realization was
49:26
so, Moment. I just saw your eyebrows start
49:32
to Twitch and I was like I need honestly, that's not even what I
49:37
was thinking about. I mean there's no summary but
49:43
you know that's fine. Yeah good it's Rocky Horror
49:48
Picture Show. What do you guys need to know?
49:50
Okay, hold on, that's great. No wing wing that summary don't
49:55
don't write anything just wing it, I shouldn't have said
49:57
anything. Would be funny actually.
50:01
Yeah, let's do that. I'll try to do that.
50:04
Okay. Would be funny actually.
50:01
Yeah, let's do that. I'll try to do that.
50:04
Okay.