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Dogman Encounters with Vic Cundiff · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Well, good afternoon everybody. It's the Crypti Huntress. I'm Jessica
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  Speaker 1: Doones and welcome into this beautiful Wednesday show. I have
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic guest here in the studio today. You guys,
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  Speaker 1: get ready because we have a big kunda here of
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  Speaker 1: dog Man Encounters and My Bigfoot Sighting, a couple other shows.
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  Speaker 1: He's got all his channels that he does. He is
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  Speaker 1: on the forefront one of the biggest names in dog
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  Speaker 1: man research and encounters lots if you want to if
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  Speaker 1: you want to hear some real dog man encounters, you guys,
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  Speaker 1: to go listen to some of the accounts that Vic
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  Speaker 1: haven't already, and welcome into the show. We have a
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  Speaker 1: lot to talk about. I was just recently on Big Show.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was last Friday, about a week almost
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  Speaker 1: a week ago, Okay, Drewski and I drew Ski of
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  Speaker 1: Cryptid Warfare, Operators and Survival, we went on there and
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  Speaker 1: talked about hunting dog men. I know it sounds terrible.
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  Speaker 1: I know, y'all, we are out there investigating. I like
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  Speaker 1: to say, I like to I'm investigating, but yes we are.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're hunting us, probably more than we're hunting them.
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  Speaker 1: But but yeah, that's that's what we do, and that's
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  Speaker 1: how we roll. And we had a really good time
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  Speaker 1: over there. And and I just saw Hondo in the
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  Speaker 1: chat to Hondo is just on VIC show this week.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. And we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: bring you up in just a minute. Actually we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about you just a little bit today, Hondo,
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  Speaker 1: So thank you so much. And oh my gosh, before
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  Speaker 1: the show even gets started, we Honda gave a super
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  Speaker 1: sticker thank you so much. As promised, Hondo is here, Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Hondo. You're the coolest man. Wonderful encounter here.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's scary, I say wonderful is in like
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  Speaker 1: it's cool for us dog man researchers terrifying for you, Hondo,
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  Speaker 1: but he's had some encounters with dog Man himself. So
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  Speaker 1: you guys please go back and listen to that episode.
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  Speaker 1: That's a couple of episode I think it was. There's
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  Speaker 1: been two episodes with you Hondo on there, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk to with Bick about that in just a minute.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you again for being here so much. I
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  Speaker 1: well let's get to our show, y'all, because we have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about. This is like
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  Speaker 1: our dog Man Bonanza, the Jubilee, the Christmas Bonana. Today
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  Speaker 1: we do talk about dog Man quite a bit on
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  Speaker 1: the channel. And yes, I do go out and the
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  Speaker 1: field and I do go look for dog men, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I do. I do investigations and I saw I see
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  Speaker 1: Drewski up in here today. What's up? Drewski. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've probably had a long night working so
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  Speaker 1: this is cutting into your sleep time, but thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being here today. And I go with this guy
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  Speaker 1: right here, wait opposite, I go to this guy out
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  Speaker 1: in the woods and we do go dog man hunting actually,
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  Speaker 1: and you can catch that episode on dog Man Encounters
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  Speaker 1: from last week. Okay, we have a big kind of here.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of dog Man Encounters. Big has always been fascinated
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  Speaker 1: with cryptids and it's been interested in things that go
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  Speaker 1: bump in the night for as long as he can remember.
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  Speaker 1: He spoke with his first dog man eyewitness in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and seven and has spoken with countless eyewitnesses since.
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  Speaker 1: Some days he's contacted through Dogman Encounters dot com by
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  Speaker 1: as many as seven or eight new eyewitnesses he's never
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  Speaker 1: heard of or never heard from before. He helps dog
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  Speaker 1: man eyewitnesses come to terms with their en caire owners
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  Speaker 1: and is the host of a podcast called dog Man Encounters,
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  Speaker 1: where eyewitnesses share the details of encounters they've had with
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  Speaker 1: dog men. In addition to what the work he does
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  Speaker 1: trying to help dog man eyewitnesses, he also produces a
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  Speaker 1: two Bigfoot specific podcasts called My Bigfoot Sighting and Bigfoot
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  Speaker 1: Eyewitness Radio. All podcasts are available for listening on your
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  Speaker 1: favorite podcast platforms. You guys, please help me. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the show, our buddy, mister Vic Kanda.
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  Speaker 2: Huh. Thanks for having me. But after a build up
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  Speaker 2: like that, you're gonna make me nervous and now stop it, Jess.
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  Speaker 1: Well this is her interrogation today. Okay, I got you
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  Speaker 1: in the hot seat. Oh, don't be nervous.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, thank you so much for being here today, Vic.
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed talking with you and kind of bouncing
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  Speaker 1: ideas off of you sometimes because you know, being a
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  Speaker 1: field me, being a researcher, I get a lot of enjoyment.
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  Speaker 1: And I know this is crazy. I get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of enjoyment from listening to your podcast and it can
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  Speaker 1: be terrifying too, right, But you have a platform like
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  Speaker 1: yours where all these eyewitnesses are contacting you. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you have more eyewitnesses than any other channel out there,
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  Speaker 1: that's for sure when it comes to first hand encounters
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  Speaker 1: with dog men and wear wolves and so I as
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  Speaker 1: much as I can, I'm always trying to tune in
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  Speaker 1: live to all of your shows, and I definitely catch
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  Speaker 1: them on the backswing if I miss them, because I
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  Speaker 1: know I'm a little busy. Okay, I can't catch all
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  Speaker 1: of them, but I really appreciate your channels. Okay, And
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much toasting me and Drew Ski this
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  Speaker 1: past week on your channel as well. So I just
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  Speaker 1: want to thank you and thank you for being here today.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're welcome. Thanks again for having me. I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to this. This is going to be a great time,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I see Hondo here and I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank Hondo again for that supersticker. But he he and
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  Speaker 1: I had messaged back and forth a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: dogmen in the research area I want to call it
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  Speaker 1: research area. But he's not more so much a researcher
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  Speaker 1: as he is an experiencer with dog man and he's
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  Speaker 1: had some terrifying encounters out there in East Tennessee and
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  Speaker 1: Vig you know, that's one of our areas that we
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  Speaker 1: research out.
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  Speaker 2: There, I do is loaded with them.
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  Speaker 1: It is it is which is here hearing what he
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  Speaker 1: encountered and what he went through is it's it's pretty scary.
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  Speaker 1: And uh and I know there's not a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. I do not recommend anybody go hunting the
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  Speaker 1: seeing down, okay, And I'm very much like him in
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  Speaker 1: the way where he was. He was really warning against it, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, going after them, behinding them down, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But as a researcher, I can't help but getting out there, vic, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of what we do. But we're pretty safe
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  Speaker 1: with it and everything. But I mean, from what he
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  Speaker 1: was saying, there's really not much you can do if
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  Speaker 1: they want to come at you, and we're we're aware
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  Speaker 1: of that. If they want to come at us, they
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  Speaker 1: could unlive all.
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  Speaker 2: Of us, right, Oh definitely. I cringe when I hear
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  Speaker 2: researchers and I know you didn't do this, but I
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  Speaker 2: cringe when I hear researchers, and I hear tons of
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  Speaker 2: them talk about safety as if their safety is dependent
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  Speaker 2: upon what they do, taking this gun, doing this, doing that.
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  Speaker 2: If a researcher heads out there to research these guys,
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  Speaker 2: puts themselves in their presence, their safety is solely dependent
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  Speaker 2: on the actions of the dog man or dog men
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  Speaker 2: and whether they decide to or not to take them
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  Speaker 2: out and then alive the researchers. If a dog has
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  Speaker 2: it in its head and wants to take you off
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  Speaker 2: the face of the earth, then there's nothing you can
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  Speaker 2: do to stop that. There really isn't.
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's the same not only with dog men,
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  Speaker 1: but also with Bigfoot too, any kind of creatures that
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  Speaker 1: are out there, I mean, even ets, whatever's out there. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we feel like we're the top of the food chain
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  Speaker 1: as humans like to think that, but being humble and
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  Speaker 1: being humbled out in the field several times, I know
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  Speaker 1: that's not the case. And so you know, you have
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  Speaker 1: to have you have to have a little level of
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  Speaker 1: I want to say crazy and you okay, adventure maybe
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  Speaker 1: maybe that's a better word, or just no, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say no fear or like I said,
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  Speaker 1: just being a little bit crazy okay getting out there,
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  Speaker 1: or just not not fearing death, I guess. And I
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  Speaker 1: know that sounds kind of terrifying for a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: But to do the things that some of us do
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  Speaker 1: out here, like myself, you know, you can't fear death
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  Speaker 1: because every time you go out there, there's a chance
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  Speaker 1: that you could die. When it comes to things like this,
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  Speaker 1: all have.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Yes, ask watch too. Definitely on
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  Speaker 2: that list as well. When you're talking about something as
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  Speaker 2: big and as fast and with implements of destruction like
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  Speaker 2: dog mean half and just the strength of a sasquatch, well,
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  Speaker 2: the strength of a dog man too at Dow. On
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  Speaker 2: top of all that, the fact that they can move
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  Speaker 2: at cartoonish type speeds. Yeah, if they want to take
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  Speaker 2: you out, they can do that. It will really easily.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I know, you take a lot of precautions
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  Speaker 2: and you're level headed about it. So if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to go out there and put yourself amongst them, then
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  Speaker 2: I mean, at least you're going about it the right way.
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  Speaker 2: Thank goodness for that too.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, like I said, gotta have a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of crazy in you, I guess to do stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: But that's that's how I've always felt about the Bigfoot
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  Speaker 1: as well, though, And and that's the head of one
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  Speaker 1: of my at least one of my teams, has always said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if they wanted to hurt us, they would.
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  Speaker 1: And there's been many many nights where we've been out
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  Speaker 1: and filled in the daytime too, where I mean I've
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  Speaker 1: had big rocks thrown at me before and they landed
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  Speaker 1: at my feet. And I know that whatever threw that
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  Speaker 1: rock wanted to hurt me. It would have hit me
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  Speaker 1: in my head. Okay, it would have hit me, and
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  Speaker 1: it didn't. So but I'm not you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that we should be pushing the limits by any means. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you should not be pushing the limits. But it is
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  Speaker 1: a precautionary tale to everybody that there is. Let let
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  Speaker 1: this be a precautionary tale. There's a lot of danger
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  Speaker 1: in being around these cryptids. And and you can definitely
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  Speaker 1: figure that out by listening to a couple of your
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  Speaker 1: episodes bick okay, uh with a lot of the people
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  Speaker 1: that you interview on your show, including Hondo over here,
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  Speaker 1: including Hondo and and I've noticed a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: who are into the dog man phenomenon are military, former
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  Speaker 1: military personnel, law enforcement officials, fire chiefs, police officers. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people on my teams have that background.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Do you have any thought.
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  Speaker 2: On that, Well, you're normally talking about people who have
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  Speaker 2: a deep love of the woods. When you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: people with a military background and a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: in law enforcement, So I think it's only natural you're
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  Speaker 2: looking for that next Well, also the fact that they're
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  Speaker 2: military ex military, president duty, current duty military. You're talking
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  Speaker 2: about law enforcement, there's going to be that addiction to
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  Speaker 2: adrenaline also. And if you find out all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden that hey, guess what, there's something out there in
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  Speaker 2: the woods that looks like a giant werewolf, well that's
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  Speaker 2: just going to be right up through alley in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cases. So I think it's just a natural fit.
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  Speaker 2: That's why so many of these people that head into
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  Speaker 2: the woods looking for dog men and for sasquatch or
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  Speaker 2: are vets, and also either X law enforcement or current
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  Speaker 2: duty law enforcement. I think it's just a natural fit basically.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's why they they fall into it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. You know, you got the
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  Speaker 1: adrenaline thing right too. I mean I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: see how a lot of people, and that's why I
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  Speaker 1: don't take a whole I don't. I don't really take
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  Speaker 1: anybody that's not on my team very often. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: say maybe once or twice I have, but people that
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  Speaker 1: are not on my team that aren't completely prepared for
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  Speaker 1: what's going to be out there, I don't take them
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  Speaker 1: into the woods. On any kind of expeditions or anything,
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  Speaker 1: because you just don't know what you're getting yourself into,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of people are not prepared for the
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  Speaker 1: things that are out there, including including dog man. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even saying I'm ready to face an entire packet
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  Speaker 1: dog man myself. Okay, But but here I am okay,
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  Speaker 1: so and and part of my most of my research
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  Speaker 1: has done in the Appalachian Mountains, and that's where Hondo
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  Speaker 1: has had a lot of his encounters that swear. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Harley Owens, I think I don't know if Harvey's been
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  Speaker 1: on your show yet. There several well several people who
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  Speaker 1: have very pretty good evidence of dogmen have those encounters
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  Speaker 1: in the Appalachian Mountains. You've seem to have had several
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  Speaker 1: people on your show that have had some appellation and
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  Speaker 1: dogmen encounters. Some people say were wolves, Okay, were wolves
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  Speaker 1: as well. We recently talked about the werewolf springs were
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  Speaker 1: wolves out of Tennessee. I don't know how far that
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  Speaker 1: is from where Hondo lives. I'm not sure the exact
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  Speaker 1: location where he lives. I didn't look it up on
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  Speaker 1: the map. I think he did mention where he lived,
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  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of werewolf activity in Tennessee. Why
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  Speaker 1: do you think that might be back?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I think it's because of the habitat you find there,
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  Speaker 2: all those rolling hills with tons of tree cover and
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  Speaker 2: game glory and a lot of moving water. It's got
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  Speaker 2: everything that they would want. I mean, it checks off
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  Speaker 2: all the boxes, so it's only natural that they would
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  Speaker 2: be there. And also too, a lot of caves and everything.
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  Speaker 2: It just checks off all the boxes, so it's just
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  Speaker 2: natural that you would find them there. Now they do
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  Speaker 2: head into places where you're not going to find caves
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  Speaker 2: and not a lot of moving water and not tons
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  Speaker 2: of game. But yeah, when you have a place like that,
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  Speaker 2: that's a perfect habitat. Yeah, it's no wonder you find
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  Speaker 2: so many dog men there. It's a given.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. People ask me often where do dog men and
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  Speaker 1: even bigfoot too, like where do they live? Where do
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  Speaker 1: they go?
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  Speaker 2: And uh?
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  Speaker 1: And I seem to think I don't. I don't really
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  Speaker 1: know exactly, but I think that they probably go into
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  Speaker 1: caves and underground. Is that you know? And I know
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  Speaker 1: you see patterns and all the encounters that you are taking,
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  Speaker 1: all the reports you're taking from people, would it be
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  Speaker 1: your opinion that they're going they're living in caves and
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  Speaker 1: maybe living underground.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they do live in caves and underground
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  Speaker 2: or maybe not living there, but they do take refuge
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  Speaker 2: there sometimes. But there's this idea that they need shelter
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  Speaker 2: like that. I don't think they do. I really don't.
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  Speaker 2: There's this idea also that if it's really nasty out,
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  Speaker 2: like a blizzard for example, or just pouring rain, that
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to find these guys. There are people
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  Speaker 2: who have had encounters with these guys that mistakenly think
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  Speaker 2: that Okay, well, I'm terrified I live in the woods.
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  Speaker 2: I'm mortified by the idea of bumping into another dog men.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna do this and do that and try
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  Speaker 2: and make sure I don't have another encounterable. They realize
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  Speaker 2: they need to do something, get something done outside. Well,
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  Speaker 2: there have been times where it's been just almost blizzard
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  Speaker 2: conditions and they think, Okay, well, it's so nasty out,
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  Speaker 2: it's so cold, it's blowing, there's so much snow coming down.
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  Speaker 2: Surely they're not going to be out and around now
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  Speaker 2: in this nastiness. A I'll head out and do what
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  Speaker 2: I need to do. Well, yeah, these guys they do
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  Speaker 2: go out in that weather also, But you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: obligate carnivores too, versus sasquatch or omnivores. Being omnivores sasquatch,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they can stockpile things that they can subsist on,
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  Speaker 2: whether that be bark in or I should say cambrium
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  Speaker 2: in really tough times from pine trees and other things
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  Speaker 2: to get by dog men. They have to make a
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: living by eating meat. So if it is really nasty out,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the best time to hunt. When deer
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: are bedded down in a really nasty storm like that,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: they can't hear the dog man approach, they can't see
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the dog man. So predators they do get out and
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: about in really bad weather like that, including these guys.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: So yeah, you talk with people who are right out
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: there on the edge of the bridge ready to jump,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and because of that fear, they go out and conditions
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: like that when they think that they're going to be
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: safe from bumping into one and unfortunately sometimes they find
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: out that's not the case. It's basically what I'm getting at,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: the fact that these guys are out and about and
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: all conditions and I don't think they have to to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: seek refuge from caves very much at all. I mean,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: it seems like they're not affected by the cold or
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: by the weather. So how often they go in the caves,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They definitely do, but how often they
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: do that, I really don't know.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, neither do I. You brought up a good point.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Dog men are probably carnivorous, Okay, just mostly carnivorous. You
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: don't hear about dog men picking berries and stuff like
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you do with Bigfoot. Okay, but do you think the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: dog men would have the same diet as dogs or no?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, No, are omnivores. Dogs have carnassials that are adapted
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: for processing meat and also vegetation. Dog Men don't. Their
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: teeth are not set up their carnassials or are made
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to process meat. All the teeth in their head or heads,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I should say, are just perfect for processing meat. No,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: they're obligate carnivores. They don't, like you said, i'd eat
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: berries and nuts and things like that. So in some
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: ways I guess that can be an advantage, but in
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: other ways it's not. When you're so specific in what
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you can subsist on.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good information to know. So they will
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: eat humans, they will eat us. So y'all be careful
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: out there, okay, And I'm speaking to myself here. Okay.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: We have a comment in the chat right now. This
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: is from Andy. Hey. Andy, he's got his own podcasts
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: out of the UK. I think you might have been
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: on it, VIC at some point. I baguly remember seeing
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you on there. He says, there seems to be more
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and more dogman type creature sited in the United Kingdom.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I keep hearing this too, Andy. Thank you so much
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: for being here. What's up with that? Vic? I've heard
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: many stories of werewolves out of the UK. I was
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: actually going to bring one up with you today. As
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the Hecku head case out of
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the UK. Lots lots of sightings out there, and I
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: don't know if there's always been that way. I mean,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: we've heard about we've heard about wear wolves, not so
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: much dogmen. I know there's a difference, but is there
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: is there a reason for an uptick in sightings of
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: dogmen in the UK right now? Do you believe?
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Well? I haven't seen that. I get asked that all
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the time, get asked about the uptick and dogman sightings,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: And from when I've started, I've never noticed an uptick.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It seems like there are no more reports now than
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: when I began a little over ten years ago. So
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: it might be a matter of Andy being more and
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: more in the public eye as time has gone by,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and that's drawn more eyewitnesses to him. But yeah, I
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: haven't noticed an uptick in the US or any other
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: place as far as encounters coming in about these guys.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not really sure what's behind that. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: think it's just because they is doing things the right way,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: just like you are, and more and more people are
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: finding out about him and about you, and that's why
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: more people are coming to you to report their experiences.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: But as far as there being an actual uptick and
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: encounters happening, I don't believe that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: That's a great point, Vick. And so yeah, I seem
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to notice an uptick in people telling me about their
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: reports and getting the information on more and more reports.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: But you've been doing this a long time. How long
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: have you actually? I remember reading it was two thousand
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and seven, I believe when the first time you took
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: your first report. How have things I guess you just
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: said that they haven't changed much. There's always been a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: lot of reports. Have you seen any changes though, between
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: two thousand and seven and today with the Dogman reports
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that you're getting well.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: As time has gone by, it's more and more in
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the public eye. I mean when I started, it really
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't all that commonly talked about, so eyewitnesses seemed to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: be more reluctant to share their experiences with family and friends.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: But people have come on the show who later on
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: they found out a family member listened to dog Me
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and Encounters. They had no clue listened, and they brought
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: up the fact that they heard them come on the show,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and people from work they heard a coworker come on,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: and this coworker who was the guest, had no clue
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: that these people listened. So it seems like it's just
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: more and more in the public eye as time has
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: gone by, so it makes people more likely to share
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: it with family and friends. But there really haven't been
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: any wholesale changes outside of that as far as this
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: whole thing goes. I mean, it's been pretty much the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: same business as usual.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, same bitess. Well, that's good to know
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and it's also kind of scary, okay, because that means
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that there's a lot lot of these things have been around.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: They've been around for a long time. But two thousand
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and seven. You've been doing this longer than me, by
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: at least five years. Okay, about five years, maybe four years,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: something like that. But I never started taking dogman reports
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: until recently, okay, because you know, I started off doing
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: bigfoot field research. But we come across potential dogmen out
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in the field and dog man tracks and dog man
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: sign sometimes and it's kind of morphed. Okay, Like my
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: whole research has really started encompassing dog man now with
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: my team, like you met with Drew Ski. But I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: think that's how a lot of researchers are out in
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the field. It kind of progresses, I guess, looking for
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: bigfoot and then it goes into the dogman phenomenon kind of.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: It may also be because we know that bigfoot's out there,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: We've got all this evidence of bigfoot, and now we're
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: looking for the next thing that's a little more. It
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: seems to be more elusive in my opinion, because we
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: see bigfoot often, you know, we have those experiences more
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: often than we have Dogmen, and so that's kind of
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: how I feel the research the online community kind of
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: is it's like we kind of established bigfoots here now
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: we're like, I don't know, do you think that it's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: because dog Man is more elusive or because Dogmen is
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: more violent? Is that why it's getting more popular now
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and more people are kind of focused on it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I think the reason why Dogman seems to be gaining
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: in popularity all the time is because what initially drew
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: people to the Sasquatch phenomenon is amplified by a factor
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of who knows how many times when it comes to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: dog men, the creep factor everything. So I think it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: just natural progression that people wants to find out about
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: dog men are drawn more towards the dogman phenomenon than
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the sasquatch phenomenon. I don't think it's ever going to
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: attain the level of popularity that Sasquatch has accepts, but
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, who knows where we're going to go from here.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I think it's just going to keep on gaining ground
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that I do.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well, you know, I've I've been listening to
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: some of the shows you've been doing, some of these encounters,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and I've been getting my own reports from people who
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: come on my shows that talk about dog men seeming
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: to be demonic, Okay, And I never when all the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: years I've done this research out in the field, I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: never really felt like I had experienced something that was
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: truly demonic out in the woods before I've been I've
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: had some screams and stuff, you know, I've been kind
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of screamed at before. Just to me, it didn't feel demonic.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm getting that a lot more now, and I'm
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: hearing that a lot more in these encounters, is that
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: people believe that they're demonic or there's something very evil
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: about them. How do you feel about that? Do you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: think that dog man could be demonic?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I do. I definitely do. When you do what I
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: do and talk with the volume of eyewitnesses I have
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and do, it's only natural that you bounce back and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: forth from one moment being convinced they have to be
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: just flesh and blood creatures that are out there scratching
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: out a living in the woods, and then the next
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: moment you're convinced they have to be demonic entities. If
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I had to bet between the two, I'd say they
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: most definitely are some form of a demonic entity. When
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you look at all these things they do that no
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: flesh and blood creature would be able to do. There's
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: something going on there. There really is things behind the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: scenes that haven't been put out there for the public.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: There are things like that that really point towards that.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Of course, not at liberty to share these things, but yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised at all if they are demonic
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: beings or at least have demonic qualities to them. However
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: that might work.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Well, they are definitely apex predators, we know that. And
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Dan Dance from the UK as well. I do believe
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: he says, I wonder did they hunt in the fog?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: More more so, do all apex predators use the environment
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: like that? And I've heard of stories of potential dogmen
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: or some say gugways too. We'll get into the fog
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: in places like Yosemite Park and they'll use that as cover.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Of course they're going to use something as cover, right,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're very elusive. You're not going to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: see them fog as a perfect cover for cryptids. But
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: some say they're responsible for some of these missing people
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: in our national parks, and so I think that, yes,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: they do hunt in the fog a good bit.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: What say you, Vick, Oh sure, yeah, hunting in the fog,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: that's just a natural thing to do for them when
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: they're trying to sneak up on game, like a deer,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: for example, that's bedded down when it's foggy like that.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: That takes away the deer's sight and that leaves only
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: one effective sense that the deer can use to detect
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: that dog man's presence, and that's hearing. They're going to
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: approach if they can. If they're aware of the deer's presence,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: they're going to approach it from downwind, so they can
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: smell the deer, but the deer can't smell them. So
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that means, yeah, there's only one sense that the deer
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: can use to detect the dog man, and if it
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: here is a twig snap, for example, it's not going
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: to know what that is. It's possible that snap might
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: have been from something else. But yeah, I think it's
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: only natural that they're going to do that. I really
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: do storms things like that. Yeah, that's why they go
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: out into bad snowstorms and heavy downpours and things like
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: that on stormy nights. It's just natural that they would
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: do that to take advantage of any opportunity. They're predators,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: so they are going to take advantage of any opportunity.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, these guys, they don't have any trouble feeding themselves.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Even if it's not stormy. They can run down any
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: deer as long as they're within a fairly decent range,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: they can run down that deer. I mean a white
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: tail for example. People really overestimate their speed. White tails
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: they top out at thirty five, which if you're on
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: foot as a human media, that seems really fast, but
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: compared to these guys, that's not all that impressive. It's
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: no wonder they don't have any trouble running them down
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: or sasquatch prong horns. Yeah, they can hit sixty, which
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: that's cruising. But I mean around most of the US
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: you're gonna find white tails or mule deer, other resources
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that they can just exploit and easily feed themselves. So
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: it's no wonder that they do so well.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, and they also are very good not only running
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: fast and tracking down their prey and hiding and concealing
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: themselves within the environment. They're also good at camouflage, okay,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and that's the same as concealing in themselves in the environment.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the camouflage, our friend Cryptidville who's in the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: chat right now, he's one of my moderators, by the way,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: what's up, Cryptiville. But Mark had an incident He's been
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: on the show and talked about it where he was
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: in the near the lbl the land between the Lakes
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of in Kentucky. The had an incident where he saw
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: what he thought was a deer, speaking of deer, and
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it took a minute to focus in on it until
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you realize it was actually what appeared to be a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: dog man with its face covered in paint, like it
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: had taken his hands and like rubbed white paint down
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: his face. So that gives it kind of a humanistic
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: characteristic in my opinion. Have you had any other stories
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: or encounters from people that have come on your show
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: or have given you any reports on something similar.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: No. Mark was the only person to ever come on
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the show and talk about that. He talked about the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: war paint effect that the dog man that put on
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: his face and everything. I don't know what that's all about.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe them observing Native Americans doing that back in the
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: day and doing that to emulate that. I don't know,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it really makes you wonder why in the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: world a dog mean would do something like that. But
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: you are talking about a true apex predator with ridiculous
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: levels of intelligence, intelligence that supersedes our own in some ways.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, with a lot of time to kill punintended
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: with a lot of time to kill on a daily basis.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: So maybe they're doing things like that just to entertain themselves.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think frightening people to within an
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: inch of their lives, I think that is a favorite
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: pastime of theirs. That's one of the ways they like
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to pass time. But you can't think for these things
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: anymore than you can think for a person. So all
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: these things are just suppositions.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oof, I just thought of something. I don't
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: know if we should go take this route today, but
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I'll just mention it, okay, because it's about when people
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: have been you know, let's just say, potentially attacked by
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: a dog man. I've been given some interesting you know,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: blind like remote viewing coordinate remote viewing targets before and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: when you said that about hearing people within an inch
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: of their lives. That's actually interesting that you said that,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: because in cases where I do believe people have really
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: been unalive, as we say on YouTube by dog men
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: in those targets that I did, I was picking up
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: on something that was targeting the adrenalized blood. Okay, so
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: we don't have to go into that conversation. I know
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it's sensitive, especially for YouTube purposes and stuff, but I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: just wanted to make that note and it makes it
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: even more terrifying. But that would indicate that they are
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: not there to I mean, they're there to kind of
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: play with their prey before they strike.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I mean, you're talking to a
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: guy as literally spoken with thousands of people who have
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: been caught dead to rights by a dog man that
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: if it was after adrenalized blood, well it was well
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: within arms reach and it could have killed them and
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: had all the adrenalized blood it wanted. But instead of
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: doing that, it allowed them to leave the scene. I
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: think they just in almost every case, they just want
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: to get a rise out of you, frighten you to
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: within an inch of your life, and then once they
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: can see that's happened, We'll mission accomplished, move on. And
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: then I get all these messages from people when I
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: talk about things like that, how they say, well, Vic,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you're full of it because the people who have been
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: killed by these things, they can't talk about their experience.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: But if it would be one thing, if I would
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: have had a sample size of ten people of fifty
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: people who I've spoken with who were caught dead to
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: rights by a dog man in places where it was
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: just so remote that they never would have been heard
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: or seen from ever again, but they were allowed to
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: leave the experience without a scratch. Well, that shows a
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: pattern there. I've got a sample size of thousands upon thousands. Again,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it'd be one thing if I was dealing with the
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: sample size of ten fifty people at the most. No,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: when you've got thousands upon thousands of people reporting the
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: same thing. The dog men had me dead to rights.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: It was looming over me. It had me dead nuts
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: to rights, but allowed me to leave after it could
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: see that I was mortified. So yeah, that's why I
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: say what I do. And after doing this for as
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: long as I have, being exposed to so many eyewitnesses,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the grand total of credible eyewitnesses who've ever told me
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: about being intentionally harmed by a dog man or dog
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: men they've encountered. After a sample size of thousands upon thousands,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: the grand total of eyewitnesses who've reported being intentionally harmed attacked,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: in other words, is a whopping seven maybe eight, maybe
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: nine at the most. So that's why I cringe when
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I hear about all these shows. It seems like week
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: in week out, they're talking with eyewitnesses who were dealing
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: with this attack, dealing with that attack. I mean, the
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: numbers just do not add up. Now. Yeah, you get
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: more views when you put out content like that because
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: fright cells, it does. But as far as truthfulness, I
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: just don't buy it. I do think that dog men
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to attack people once in a blue moon, you are
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: going to have deviant examples of anything that's out there.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: You have deviant people who will kill you if they
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: get the opportunity. But as far as these guys being
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: wired to kill people as soon as the opportunity presents itself, well,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: my case, it answers that if they were wired to
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: kill people as soon as the opportunity presents itself, Like
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I said before, I wouldn't have spoken with thousands upon
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: thousands of people who were right there, caught dead, nuts
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to rights, but allowed to leave. So that's my opinion
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a word that I love using. It's
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: called loosh okay, But I don't I don't even think that.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's not like they're trying to get that loose.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I think they're just trying to get you out of
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: their territory. I think that dog men and all cryptids,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: including Bigfoot, I know, especially Bigfoot because that's what I
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: deal with the most, they just don't want you in
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: their territory. And I think that's the case with a
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: lot of these dog men. And speaking about territories, dreams
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: are I was gonna say, dreams are off limited, off
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: limits here when it comes to a dog man invading
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: our dreams and stuff. But Jay Simmons, thank you so
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: much for the supersticker. I've seen both of them in here.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. What do you both think about
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: dog man dreams? Very curious? Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you too. I have not had a dream with a
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: dogmen in it. I don't think what about you.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Vick, No, I don't dream about them. I talk about
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: them ad nauseum. But people would think I would have
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: nightmares about them and all this. No, I don't have
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: nightmares or dreams. But I'm literally this is what I do.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: People think on moonlight just happen to do that on
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the side. It's a side hustle. No, this is what
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I do. I help eyewitnesses. I talk with eyewitnesses about
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: some of the worst encounters you could possibly imagine. But yeah,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have nightmares about this for some reason.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's because of how I look
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: at all this or what. But yeah, dreams have never
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: been a problem with me either.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a lot of people have dreams like
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Dan has here about running with running running from something. Okay,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I wake up all the time, you know, pull the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: trigger on something in my gun won't work. Okay, that
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: happens a lot my dreams. But other than that, Yeah,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: there's there are people that do have dreams about this.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, like Freddy Krueger Vibes just then like,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it's not you can't. Don't get into my dreams. They're
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: off limits. Okay, But okay, that was that was an
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: interesting question. I've never heard I've never been asked that
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: question before. Vick, have you about dreaming about Dougman? I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I've been asked once or twice about that, and it's
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: a good question. You would expect me to have dreams
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: about them or nightmares about them, But yeah, I just don't.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I guess it's because of how I look at them.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do when I get a chance to
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: do that, to clear my head, get away from work,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I'll head out into the woods and walk some miles.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I just don't look at these guys a
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: way that so many other people do. I guess it's
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: because of the exposure to all these eyewitnesses and being
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: able to compare notes about what to expect from them
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: and what not to expect. But yeah, I mean I
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: just don't have nightmares about them.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I've got I'm looking at so much suff to talk
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: about Dave, but I'm looking at the in the chat,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and we have such wonderful questions, So I'm just going
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: to kind of bounce back and forth. Jay Truzigger says,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: how about the ideas of militarized dog men and militarized
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: human cryptids. What do you think about that? Vig because
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I get a lot of people inquiring about that, especially
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: when it comes to things like this alleged dog men
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: breeding program that some say occurs out there. Some people
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: have even claimed that they've seen dog men dressed in
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: military uniforms before. What do you think about that and
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: what have people told you according to their encounters.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't believe that. I mean, you remember that
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: one Aliens movie, it was Alien Resurrection, when Ripley, Ripley's
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: clone had those superabilities. She had alien qualities to her,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: so she was kind of a chimera in a way.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, she was sitting in that one room when
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the doctor came in and the head military guy came
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: in there, and they're talking about their interest in being
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: able to weaponize Aliens, and she was sitting there looking
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: at them like they were crazy, and she said something like, sit, stay,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: roll over. Do you think for a second you're going
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: to be able to train these things? You can't. And
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: this is the same thing with their intelligence. I don't
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: see there being any way you can weaponize them. They're
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: way too intelligent for that. They're gonna do what they're
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: gonna want to do. They know you can't make them
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: do anything they don't want to do. So why would
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: they cooperate? Why would they back in the Vietnam War
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: agreed to be tunnel rats. There's no they're there, so no,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I don't buy that for a second. It has been
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: put out there by a lot of people. But unless
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: a much better explanation can be had, I just think
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: it's all fluff. I really do.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you're talking about my German shepherd too.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: She doesn't listen to me either, Okay, so I'm speaking
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: from experience. Let's see DJ Tyler Radio. Thank you so
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: much for that super sticker. I appreciate that. I think
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Matt Williams is in the chat. I just saw Matt.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I had your com pull. I was about to pull
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: it up and then I lost it. Matt was actually
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: asking and thank you for being here. Matt was asking
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: about here it is found it. What do you think
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it'll take to get real biologists and scientists to actually
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: take the phenomenon seriously?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: They never will. They never will unless one is actually
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: laying on a table dead where it can be examined
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: by any of these scientists or biologists. They never will.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: It's too big of a leap so they have been
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: raised to believe that the world is a certain way
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: by being biologists, scientists. They're very pragmatic. So this training
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: they've had every since they've been toddlers to believe that
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the world is a certain way, it works a certain way,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: there are certain ways that it doesn't work or can't work.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just ingrained in their minds, way too deeply,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, for them to be open to believe
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: that things like these guys are actually out there unless
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: they actually can stand next to a table that's got
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: a dead dog men specimen on it and see with
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: their own two eyes that they're real. And that's just
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: not going to happen. So I don't think they ever
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: are going to buy into the fact that these guys
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: are out there. I don't.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Interesting take on that. And I agree, I mean, I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: don't think our government, even if our government does have
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: a connection, and I think that they probably do personally,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I think they probably do. But I don't think they're
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: ever going to just march them out on a stage
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and be like Toda, we have dog men here, you know.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever going to happen. It would
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: be cool if they did, but I don't think they're
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: going to do that. However, I think that we are
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: at a point in humanity's awakening right now to where
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of discolore going on, a lot of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: disclosure on a lot of things. And I know, I
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: always like to say, we are the disclosure okay here
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: on the channel. You know, people like you know myself
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: and you you know, they're doing the boots on the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: ground work out here. We're able to talk about our
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: findings okay, and have real life people come and tell
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: their real life stories about it. We can't expect, you know,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: government officials or agencies or whoever to come out and
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: talk about all of this and to disclose it to
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the public. But they are talking now about aliens being real,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: so they're having congressional hearings on them extraterrestrials. I mean,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: do you not think that maybe in the future, maybe
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: in the distant future, we did have some disclosure.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: No, No, I don't acknowledging the presence of aliens is
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: one thing. But I'll tell you why. I don't think
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: for a second the government is ever going to allow
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: their existence out of the bag. Talking about dog men
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: we rely on a daily basis on so many things
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: that are harvested from the forest, from the lumber in
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: our homes and other buildings, to paper we write on
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: and print on, and the medications that we take that
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: are derived from so many plants in the woods, and
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: so many other things, so many other ways. If the
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: government were to allow it to be known that these
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: guys are definitely out there, guess what something that looks
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: like a giant werewolf could be in a woods near you,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and quite possibly is, if that was ever allowed to
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: be out of the bag, then what lumberjack is going
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: to want to run a noisy chainsaw ten twelve hours
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: out of the day where they can't see or hear
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: anything that's going on behind them. If one of these
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: things could be right there behind them, They're not who's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: going to want to live anywhere near a forest when
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: these things could be there rooming around, coming out of
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: the forest. So yeah, I mean, well, yeah, but we're different.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the general public, they're not gonna want any
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: part of that. So almost overnight, our economy, the world's economy,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: would collapse, It really would. So they know that the
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: government's intelligent. They know that so they're not going to
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: let this out of the bag to preclude the chance
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: of that happening. Look, how poorly we handled something that's
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: much simpler like COVID. I mean we didn't handle that
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: as well. With the shortages of TP. You know, cranky
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I get when I don't have any TP in the house, Jessica,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: is not pretty, I'm telling you. I mean it is.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean the government's intelligent, they know better
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: than that out of the bag. So yeah, that's why
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: they're never going to allow this to be acknowledged, in
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: my opinion.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, similar to the bigfoot phenomenon in the new National Parks.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: You know, Now, bigfoot's kind of cool and people want
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: to go having a bigfoot experience and go knock on
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: a tree and do some whoops and stuff. But bigfoots
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: can be kind of dangerous, a lot dangerous actually, And
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think that our National Parks rangers and people,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and I've interviewed several not on my show, but I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: don't think I've had one on my show yet. But
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I've taken reports from park rangers on bigfoot sightings before
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: here in Georgia, And yeah, I don't know if people
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: found out that there were you know, nine ten foot
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: thirteen foot tall gigantic bigfoots running around the national parks.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: They'd lose a lot of revenue, okay, because I don't
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: think people would want to take their families there to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: go to go picnic and stuff. So I get it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I get it. I understand that aspect of it DJ
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Tileert Radio is actually it must be from Colorado. And
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I was wondering if you have an opinion on dogmen
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: and Colorado.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Do I have an opinion? Well, they're definitely there. I've
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: heard episodes of the show where I witnesses have come
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: on and talked about their Colorado dogman encounters. Yeah, they're
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: definitely there. But then again, they're all over there, really
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: are I had a guy years ago, was it about Yeah,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: it was about ten years ago. There's a guy in
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Rhode Island who contacted me the kind of thumb his
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: nose at me to laugh and say, well, haha, I
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: don't have to worry about dogmen here in Rhode Island.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: And I thought about it for a second and I
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: thought should I break it to him or not? And
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: then I was in an orn removed that day, so
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I decided to send him a There was an article
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: that I found where there was a dog man someplace
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: in Rhode Island that the locals had seen so many times.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: The actually had a nickname for it. So I sent
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: that guy that article just for good measures, so we
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: could see that. But they're all over, they really are.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of dog man reports,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: were wolf reports. There's something that I don't know if
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: it was lawn trickuler or somebody had like kind of
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: labeled area in Pennsylvania like a werewolf triangle or a
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: dog man trying I mean up there. And there's also
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a dog man triangle down in Texas. I mean, there's
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: all sorts of dog in sightings all over the place.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: But I met several people on my shows. I think
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: some of them have been on your shows as well.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Out in California. I think Adolph's in the chat today.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Adolph has been on your show. He's seen dogmen, a
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: lot of dog man sightings out there, and I was
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: wondering if you are familiar. I know you're familiar with it,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: but have you gotten any kind of information on the
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: dog men out in California attacking the homeless population?
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I've heard about rumors about that, but never anything
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: to substantiate that to say that it's definitely happening. I mean,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: it sounds pretty creepy to hear. Oh, dogmen are attacking
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: homeless people. Hopefully that's not happening. But when you consider
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: the fact that they can so easily feed them and
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: things that taste so much better than humans would, I
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: just don't think that they're making the habit out of
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: doing that. They're so intelligent they know what comes along
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: with doing that. Also, it's going to bring people into
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the area, flooding the area. They don't want any part
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: of that. So I just don't think that's happening as possible,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: but I don't know. I just don't think it's it's
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ja Simmons, that's a cool Comment's funny. They would
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: have another TP shortage if they disclosed dog men because
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: people would be you know, witting themselves.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they would. Yeah.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Starts with the s okay for everybody listening on podcast platforms.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: So we went from one side of the country to
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the other talking about the dog men sightings. A lot
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: of people who send me information about their sightings are
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: actually truckers, Okay, guys who are and women too. I've
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: only had guys contact me though, But people who are
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: driving trucks long hauls across the country. Most of them
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: on my end are on the East Coast, but going
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: from you know, just driving on the road, they have
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of dogman sightings. Have you found that to
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: be the case with some of the encounters that you're
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: you're told.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I've talked with truckers about that, and yeah, it seems
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: like a lot of truckers have seen things that they
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: don't know for sure what it was. There are truckers
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I've spoken with who definitely did see dog men. I
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: know there is a highway I don't know if it's
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: still going on, but there was a highway out in
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Nevada that there was a buzz amongst truckers because it
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: was known that if you drive that highway at night,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: that quote unquote were wolves would tend to run alongside
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: your trucks. The trucks and all kind of race your truck.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the end goal was, but for
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: a while there that was going on. Again. I don't
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: know if that's still happening or not. It's been years
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: since I heard about that, But yeah, I've known about that.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Outside of that, I don't really know how common it
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: is for truck drivers to see these things.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just gotten I've gotten several reports of truckers
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: having encounters with them, So I think it's kind of neat.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: A lot of times they are spotted on the side
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: of the road. And uh. And the one that's very famous,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: well known in my part of the woods is a
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: they call it the where was the were wolf is
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: what they call it. But but you know, my I
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: have let's just say, a family member who worked as
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: a lead dispatcher at the nine one one center and
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: and the deputies are my buddies out there, and they
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: would say that they would get calls pretty often of
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the werewolf on the side of the road. And it's
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: one particular area in the north part of the county.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: And uh, and people, you know, there is some point
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: about a mile away from my house. They got a
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: call in that it was a couple driving home late
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: one night and they saw that they thought they had
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: hit a dog, a big wolf, and they said that
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: they called in to nine one said, you know, we
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: thought we hit a wolf, but it got up and
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: it ran off on two legs. That was right by
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: my house. So but nonetheless it's oh and I was
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: gonna say something about the coyotes too. I do believe
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: that was it Tyler who left some comments earlier. He
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: was saying that the dog man that he saw looked
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: like a coyote, and it seems to be the case
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: for a lot of these dogmen vic is that they
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: look more like coyotes until they stand up on two legs.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Do you get that a lot?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Not really, I haven't had very many eyewitnesses ever report
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: them looking like coyotes having coats that were coyote colored.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: But timberwolves can have that pattern as well. There's a
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: name for that color where it's like a gray base
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: coat with flecks of black and dark brown on the tips.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of eyewitnesses have reported seeing dogmen
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: in the coat that is like that, but as far
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: as looking like a coyote, very very few eyewitnesses have
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: reported that.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, I've gotten it a couple of times. I wanted
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: to thank Kent for that super secret. Thank you so much, Kent,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: and I hope that you do come and see me
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: at a conference. I am live and direct a lot
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: of conferences in public events these day, So come and
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: see me and thank you so much, Kent. You're the sweetest.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Okay. Also, I believe that Andy was
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: asking if you've gotten any reports out of the UK
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: of dog men sightings. I'm real familiar with your German
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: when I was going to bring that up today, one
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: of your germal ones. But what about the UK.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had several eyewitnesses from the UK contact me,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: had several eyewitnesses from the UK come on the show
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: actually and talk about their experiences. There was one guest,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: David Bunt, who had a couple of encounters in Delamure Forest.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: He was supposed to come back on and talk about
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: one that he had with the buddy of his but
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: he hasn't been back on yet. But yeah, I've had
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: several eyewitnesses come on from the UK and talk about
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: their dog meaning encounters. These guys are really literally all
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: over So yeah, no place is safe if you're planning
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: to move there and not have any possibility of having
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: a dog mean encounter.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right. Gosh, I was going to
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: ask you something because I have been I've encountered this.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I know you encountered this too recently. It's a little
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable to talk about. But people who like aren't telling
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: us the full truth, okay, like hoaxures and stuff. I
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: had something happen to me not too long ago, and
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: have you have you encountered that? I think you kind of.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I did catch a little blurb the other day where
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: you know, someone was not so truthful with you about
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: an encounter and you caught onto it. And the same
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: thing has happened to me before too, and I feel
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: like that, I guess just as part of being in
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: the cryptied community. Okay, it just it's gonna happen sometimes.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: But what do you say about that with people that
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: are not so truthful sometimes about some of these encounters.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: And it only happens in a very tiny little percentage,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: okay of the reports that we get and stuff, because
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: it happens in the field sometimes unfortunately, but also happens
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: on people that call into our podcasts and stuff too.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Do you have any thing to say, like in regard
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: to that, or any advice you give me the how
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: to handle stuff like that?
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: I do. Yeah, there's no shortage of people at any
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: given time we would try to lie the way on
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: to dog meeting encounters. There really isn't. It's unfortunate. It's
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: just one of those things. But when I started doing this,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Jessica made a promise to myself that I would much
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: rather play the fool and allow someone on the show
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: who is lying their way onto the show, and like
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: I said, me consequently play the fool and to risk
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: having a situation where you've got a bonified eyewitness who,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: due to how they delivered their encounter to me when
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: we're talking behind the scenes, somehow led me to believe
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: they were lying when in fact they're actually telling the truth.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: All of us have spoken with people in our lives
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: countless times who we were convinced were lying to us.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Because of our super keen skills at detecting lies, we
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: knew they're a lying to us, when in fact they're
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: actually telling us the truth. We were just thrown off
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: because of this or that. There is some little thing
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: that just threw us off and made us think that
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: we knew they were a lying when in fact they're
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: telling the truth. I absolutely hate the idea of turning
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: someone around at the door who actually is a bonified
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: dogman eyewitness because I mistakenly thought they were lying to me. Now,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: let me qualify that I have caught people in lies.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: And if I catch an eyewitness, a quote unquote eyewitness
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: in a lie, then that right there, that's it going
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: to come on the show because fool me once, thooy
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: on you. If they've lied to me once, who's to
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: say that anything they're trying to tell me is true?
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I have people contacted me all
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: the time, and back to the whole dog me and
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Death's thing, it seems like every time I've got someone
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: contacting me with the next story about a dogman attack,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: when you put them put their feet to the fire,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: they very very rarely ever hold up. I mean, perfect example,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: there was a guy who contacted me and told me
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: about how he was horseback riding in West Virginia. I
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: think it was with a bunch of friends and he
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: was the last one in line and they were riding
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: up this long, gradual hill and he said, all of
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: a sudden, this huge dog man came walking up next
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: to him and his horse, and it just swatted him
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: right across his chest, knocking backwards off of his horse.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: And when he told me about that, said wow, if
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: it did that, then did you have to go to
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: the hospital and he said yes I did. I said
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: did you take any photos of the wounds on your chest?
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: He said yeah, I did. I said, well, would you
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: mind sending me any of those pictures? And he said sure,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: I'll send those to you. Well, after that conversation with him,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I put things in place through a connection so that
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: to trauma surgeons, two very experienced trauma surgeons who were
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: based in Colorado who specialized in large predator attacks on humans.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I had things in place through that contact where those
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: two trauma surgeons were going to examine his photos and
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: give me their qualified professional opinion on the validity of
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: those photos. Well, I'm big on not disrespecting evidence that's
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: shared with me. So I contacted the guy back and said, hey,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: by the way, when you do send me those photos,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: would you mind if And then I told him about
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: the trauma surgeons and how I wanted them to look
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: at his photos and give me their qualified opinion on them.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: He almost left tire marks getting out of there. He
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: wanted no part of them looking at these photos. And
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: that's the way it almost always is when people contact
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: me about the latest attack, how they were attacked by
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: a dog man. That is almost always how it is.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't hold up. I have had people come
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: on and contact me and report that who they definitely
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: did seem legit. But in almost every case it's just bunk.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: It seems like as far as you go, I can't
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: really tell you how to handle these people. I mean,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: I mean I from the start, I decided, you know what,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: I'd much rather play the fool and run the risk
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: of bringing Charlatan on than turning a bonafide dog man
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: eyewitness away at the door. But that's the decision that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I made. I can't make that decision for you. I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: don't know your tolerances for this or for that. So yeah,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: that's a decision that only you were qualified to make.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: So I really can't give you that much in the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: way of advice on that, other than your knowledge of dogmen. Now,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: having said that, I will say this, if an eyewitness
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: contacts me and talks about having an encounter within a
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: certain range, then yeah, I can use vetting questions that
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: only a person a bonifie dog man eyewitness would know
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: the answers to. But outside of a certain range. If
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: the dog man was a certain distance away or further,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: then you really can't do that. But here's a funny story.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Episode thirty four featured the Dogmen eyewitness named Michael Lawrence,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: and if you listen to that episode, you'll remember him
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: talking about camping as a boy scout with his troop
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: when he was a kid in the ends of Rego
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Desert in California. And that was a show where he
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: came on and talked about that juvenile dogged me and
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: they came walking up to his tent in the middle
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: of the night with its mom, with what appeared to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: be its mom, but it unzipped the door of his tent,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: he said, and came into his tent, sat on his
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: legs and proceeded to lick his face. Well, when I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: read his report when it came in and he was
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: sharing all this information, I thought, Wow, that sure is
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: over the top. I really need to vet this guy
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: because if that actually happened, then he's going to know
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: the answers to certain questions that only someone who actually
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: had to dog me that close would know the answers too.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: So we set the time for me to call him.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I called him that day, broke the eyes and everything.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Really nice guy. And then we got right down to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: the point I started throwing vetting questions at him, and
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: I mean instantly he would throw back the correct answer.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: I'd ask him another in question that only a bona
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: fide dog men eyewitness would know the answer to what
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: color is grass? Boom, Instantly the correct the answer came back.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I mean just time after time, I thought, you know what,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: this guy is the real deal. Holy cow, that did happen. So, yeah,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: that's why he was on the show. He's vetted. He
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: was vetted. Now again, outside of a certain distance, they're
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: not going to know the answers to these vetting questions.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: So there's only so much you can do in those instances.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: But I try to stick to the truth as much
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: as possible. But there are a lot of cases where
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: you can't vet these people. All you can do is
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: just hope telling the truth, and that's all you can do.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, And I had a comment from Brian up on
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the screen. Brian Seat says, I think a lot of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: these interviewers that have been around a long time and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: experience in the field have good BTS meters, and that's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: a wonderful point. Yes, we do a lot of us do.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: And the fact that you know, from my standpoint, I
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: was asking for your advice, especially from a podcasting point
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: of view here because I'm actually pretty lucky because I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: am a field researcher and I do field research and
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: investigations with people from all over the country, and we
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: have our own experiences within our teams, and then we
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: get these reports and so we were able to go
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: out and do the investigations. And I usually only bring
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: people on my shows personally that are people that I know,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: or people that are recommended that have already been vetted okay,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: with people who are fellow researchers of mine. So that's
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: how we do things on my channel for the most part,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: because it is important that we get that we uphold
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: our integrity, I guess you could say. And if people
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: watch my show for a long time, you'll know I
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: don't show a lot of pictures and videos on my
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: show and if I don't see us, because if I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: don't see it, we don't show on the show. Like
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, blurry pictures and stuff like that. I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: don't usually show those on my channel, and stuff like
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: that Okay, but that's just because I'm a I'm a
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: pretty hardcore boots on the ground field researcher, and I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: got to see it to show it too, So so
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I can appreciate. I totally appreciate that Vic and I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: have have had at least one instant instance of a
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: questionable interview on my channel before and uh and so yeah,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I can very much appreciate that you asked me a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: really interesting question when I was on your show. You
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: asked Drew Ski the same, and you're asking if we're
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: ever worried about being on some I don't know if
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: you said like a watch list or like government watched
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm going to turn around ask
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: you the same thing, like, have you ever I don't say,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: like worried a little bit or been curious as to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: whether you're on some sort of like a watch list
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: or something kind of like how it's kind of like
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: how you asked me the other.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm on a watch list, all right, Yeah, but
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I don't worry about it because I don't cross the line.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: There's a line that the government has that as long
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: as you don't cross it, you're fine. They'll tell you
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: can talk about it ad nauseum, and that's what I do.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: I talk with eyewitnesses about their encounters ad nauseum. But
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: if there's evidence that's above a certain level, I don't
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: come forward with it because doing things like that, that's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: how you do run a foul of the government, and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: that right there is a fight you can never win.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can pound your chest and talk about
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: how tough you are and how you're not afraid, you're
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: not the type to ever fear anything and run right
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: into a cage with a silver back gorilla and get
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: twisted into a pretzel and all that. If you want to,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: if that's your thing, if that's your bag, baby, But
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into a fight that I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: can't win. And I plan on helping dogmen eyewitnesses for
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: a very long time. And if I do wind up
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: making that mistake and stepping over the line and putting
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: evidence out there that's beyond a certain level of quality,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: then I'm not going to be able to continue helping
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: dog me and eye witnesses the way I love to do.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: So Yeah, I mean, there's such a thing as foolishness,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: and there's too much bravado mixed in with that, and yeah,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: I just don't want to fall into that trap. I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: really don't.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I feel you. I think that there is a definite
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: line that you just don't cross. And and I mean,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: and we're putting out a lot of information here, you know,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: You're you're putting out eyewitness accounts. I'm putting out, you know,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: my own experience with my boots on the ground field
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: research and investigations and bringing other investigators and researchers on
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: my channel, and you know, it's just it's out there.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, we are the Disclosure speaking about
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: the Disclosure. By the way, we have Brian, Brian saying
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: in the chat today, thank you for being here, Brian,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: thank you for that super sticker. He says, great show,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: awesome invested investigatorial skills or tips. See you in July,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: and what he's referring to as I am one of
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: their speakers at the Full Disclosure Now conference in Saint
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Pete Beach, Florida next July. So you guys come see
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: me down there. I'm gonna be talking about dog Man, okay,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: and other cryptids of course, But but I think it's
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I think it is important for us to talk about
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: these things, Vick, and and that's why I appreciate you
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: so much for being here and just for just for
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: being my friend too. I really do appreciate you a lot.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Well. That goes two ways. You know, if I can
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: never help you, all I have to do is let
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: me know and I'll be there for you.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Well. Thank you. You always are every time, and I
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: do appreciate that. Do you have any kind of final
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: thoughts today on or advice for the for the people
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: that are watching and listening in right now about dog
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: men and what what what they should do if they
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: ever encounter a dog man?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I do. I do have advice if you haven't encounter
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: with a dog man, treat it like you would a
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: grizzly encounter. Don't do anything to make them think you're
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: challenging their dominance, don't run, monitor where they are, don't
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: turn your back on it. But yeah, as long as
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: you keep a cool head in almost every instance, you're
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: gonna be just fine. I mean, like we've already established,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: I've spoken with thousands upon thousands of dogmen eyewitnesses over
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: the years, and the numbers don't lie the grand total
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: of people who've ever reported to me credible people who've
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: reported being attacked by one of these guys seven eight,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: maybe nine at the most, Well, what does that tell us?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: If you take three four thousand people who have had
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: direct interactions with horses and ask them, Okay, how many
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: of you have ever been intentionally harmed by a horse
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: you've interacted with? You know that hundreds of them would
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: raise their hands, swap out horses for camels in the
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: same numbers would be the case. Hundreds of them would say, yes,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: I was intentionally harmed. Well, if that number is only
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: seven to eight, maybe nine for dog men, what does
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: that tell you? As hard as it is to accept
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: and believe, you're actually less likely to be harmed if
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: you encounter a dog man then if you encounter a horse,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: or a camel, or a house cat or a bull
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: or you name it, or cows. So yeah, it's hard
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: to accept as it is. The numbers don't lie. I'm
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: never gonna say dogmen are safe to be around. Don't
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: think that they are. They might have gotten up on
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: the wrong side of the log that morning when you
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: encounter them or something, and maybe that one is dangerous
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: to be around that day. I'm never gonna say they're
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: safe to be around. They're not benign, but the numbers
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: don't lie this idea that their bloodthirsty, mindless, monstrous killing
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: machines that are going to rip you apart as soon
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: as you get the opportunity. Well, that's clearly not the case.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: You're listening to a guy, like I've said, who's spoken
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: with thousands of people who they lived the fact that
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: that's not the case. So yeah, it's all on how
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: you look at it. Look at all this accurately in
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: don't let the bunk so much bunk that's interjected into
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: this topic. Don't let that poison your mind when it
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: comes to dog men.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Right, Oh my gosh, the lighting in here has gotten
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: really bad. I found it had noticed my sun's shining
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: through the window. Now that's right, Vic, one hundred percent.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. And there's a lot of dog
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: man attacks on YouTube, Okay. I see it every single day.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Every time I open my computer up. It's like I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: see another dog man attack, and I think, man, there
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  Speaker 1: can't be that many dog man Attackses feel like I
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: would have heard about them, Okay, But nonetheless, it is
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  Speaker 1: like like I always like to say on my channel.
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  Speaker 1: This is for entertainment purposes only. There's a lot of
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: entertainment out there too, okay, like just entertainment, entertainment. And
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: so if you go by what you see on YouTube
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: and the titles of all these shows, you think that
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: dog Men is out there just unaliving people every day
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: all the time. And I don't think that's the case either, VEG.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that it is very skewed, okay. And
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: also maybe some of the cases where people potentially were
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: injured or hurt by a dog man, they're just publicized,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: publicized a lot more and stuff maybe too, But there's
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  Speaker 1: only been a couple of cases where I believe that
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  Speaker 1: it definitely was Dogmen according to some of my research.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. This has been fantastic, Vig, Thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much. Can you tell the audience? Oh and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: I like this. I'm sorry, let me go back. Travis
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  Speaker 1: King says it's more likely to be unalived by your
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: own dog than a dog man. What do you think, Vegged?
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that, right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: There's a reason behind everything they do. There is a
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: reason for everything they do. I'll say that again. What
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: purpose would they have in killing you? They don't have
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: any trouble feeding themselves. What comes with that? If they
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: kill you, if they unlive you, sorry, Jess, If they
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: unlive you, then they know that that's going to flood
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: the area with with hairless beings, i e. People. They
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: don't want any part of that. So yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it just makes sense that they would make a happit
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: out of killing people, unless it's a deviant one that
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: just ain't right in the head anyway, right, And I
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: like to.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Say cryptids are a lot like humans. A lot of
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: them are very sweet and nice and kind, and they'll
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: let you pass, don't give you any problems, and some
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: of them will hunt you down and they'll eat you.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: So so just be aware, everybody, Okay, be aware and
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: be respectful. You know. That's my philosophy, is I just
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I respect everything. I go out in the woods with respect,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: and I feel like as though I carry myself as
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: though I have just as much right to be in
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: those woods as anything else out there. Okay, And that's
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: how in my mind I get by okay out there.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, we got to take precaution because there are
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: things out there in those woods that will eat us,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: for sure, very little sits in the chat, Verry, thank
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: you so much. He said that this has been one
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: of his favorite shows. And Barry's one of my frequent
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: co hosts on here, so very would know. He watches
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: a lot. He's here was a part of my channel
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: a lot. So thank you, Barry. I appreciate that. VIC
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  Speaker 1: is awesome. Nick, thank you so much again. Can you
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: tell the audience where they can find you and all
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: of your shows?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Sure, dog Me and Encounters you can find that on
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: your favorite podcast platform. All of my shows are available
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: on your favorite podcast platform. But the other shows that
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: I produce are Bigfoot, I Witness Radio that to you,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: like I said, could be found on your favorite podcast platform,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: my Bigfoot Sighting and My Paranormal Experience. My Peer and
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Normal Experience is on hiatus. Now I'm not sure if
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: I'm ever gonna start producing new episodes, but yeah, that
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: can also be found on your favorite podcast platform.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Awesome. I forgot to type that one in. But my
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Paranormal Experience, right, Okay, so y'all go go find those
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: out there. Actually, everything's in the description box down here
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: below the video today, and if you're listening on podcast platforms,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: it's in the description. So you guys go check it out,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: and y'all come back to YouTube, and I'll have this
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: posted on Rumble as well if you guys want to
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: see the full show. If you want to see my
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: lovely face in the picture that Vic has for his
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: face up here, not for your face but your avatar,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: let's just say the mysterious bit kindiff. So all right,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: and so everybody, I want to thank everybody so much
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: for being here today. You guys have been amazing. We
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: had some of the best questions in the chat today,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of my good friends and
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: some fellow researchers in here today. David Pardue is in here.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: He's one of my fellow Bigfoot field researchers. He's out
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: of North Carolina, and he was mentioning earlier in the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: chat that a dog man would not want to eat
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: him because he tastes bad. Okay, well, I hope that
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I taste bad too, and they wouldn't want to eat
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: me either, David. So but thank y'all so much everybody
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: for being here today. Vic. I know you have a
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: great chat over on your channel as well. I gotta
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: say I think I have the best chat on the
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: internet over here, Vic, you have a pretty good one
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: as well. When is your next live show for the
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: audience to tune into.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: The next live one, I don't know for sure when
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: that's going to be, Probably not this Friday, but the
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Friday after that. The show I'm going to er Friday
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: of this week is going to be where a gentleman
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: comes on. He's actually from the UK himself. He lives
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: in Australia now, but he had his encounter thirty six
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: years ago in the UK where he and his buddies
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: were trying to frighten one of his other buddies and
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: wound up running up on a dog man. They encountered
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: something that's a lot better at the fright game than
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: what these guys were. But yeah, that's going to be
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: a pre recorded show this Friday, but as far as
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: a live stream, probably next Friday.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, great, Well I'm going to be tuning in. I
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: hope you guys will all be tuning in as well.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: You guys please go to dog Man Encounters on YouTube
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: and be sure to watch those shows. And I want
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: to thank Honcho again for being here today. Thank you
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: for that sweet donation you gave to the channel before
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: the show started today. If you guys missed the episode
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: with Hancho the aired this past week, please go check
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: that out on dog Man Encounters on YouTube and on
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: podcasting platforms as well. All right, Vic, well, I hope
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: you will come back and hang out with me again
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: soon and and talk some more dog Man with me.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Be glad to just say the word and I'll.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Be here, Okay, I'll say I'll say the word, I promise. Okay.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: All right, well, Vic, I a beautiful, wonderful merry Christmas
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: and happy Holidays, and I hope you get all that
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: you ask for from Santa this year.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you you too. I hope your Christmas is
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: even better.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank your hope Santa brings me something to
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe a dog Man toy or something. We'll see. Okay,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: all right, well everybody, you guys, thank y'all so much
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: for being here. Please come back and see me tomorrow
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: night at eight pm. I believe Barry's probably gonna be
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: here with me for the remote viewing show tomorrow eight
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: pm Eastern seventh Central. You guys, come and see me there,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: and then on Saturday night I have Alan Thomas coming
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: on as we go on the hunt. He is squatched
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: his own if you guys are familiar with squatch. Soon
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about bigfoots on Saturday night and
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: his experiences out in the field, so you don't want
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: to miss it for sure. All right, everybody, VIC, thank
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: you so much again for being here, and you guys
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: have a wonderful day. Everybody, take care of keep your
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: head on a swivel, and don't live in fear. Okay,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: don't live in fear, but just be aware of what
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: we got on. All right, everybody, thank you VIT, y'all
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: have a great day and we'll see you tomorrow night.