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A Haunting Goodbye: Spirits, Timelines, and Final Visitations · Eye Opener Society

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  Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Eye Opener Society.
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  Thank you so much again for pushing play. Thank you so much for joining us on this episode.
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  Unfortunately, this episode, I don't have Hannah with me.
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  This is kind of a special episode. So for those of you who listen to the show,
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  I'm sure you heard Timelines and Tapestries where we had Ann Lund and Sunset Child on the show.
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  And Ann Lund told a really fascinating story that even today I'm still fascinated with.
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  And we kind of roundtabled it a little bit because it was more along the lines of a timeline shift.
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  And it was just funny that when she told that story on that particular day,
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  that night, I too experienced a timeline shift with my wife.
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  So she has another one for us.
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  And we tried to get a sunset child on here, but it's a 30 year anniversary.
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  So we figured out it was a little bit more important than coming on this show.
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  So since a child will not be here, but we do wish her a very happy anniversary.
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  And if you want to become friends with her, she still hasn't gotten a business
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  page like we asked her to. So she's just using her Facebook page under Sunset Child.
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  She's more than happy to take you in as a friend and show you around.
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  So who we have with us is Anne Lund, who has another story for us.
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  And even more exciting, we have Elaine from Arcane Oracle.
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  So welcome, ladies, to the show again. And I'm looking forward to this whole
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  exciting story that we have here, Anne.
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  Okay. Okay. So this story is, it's kind of short. It's a very strange story.
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  So it starts off kind of sad. I had a dear friend who was in hospice care and
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  this happened during COVID.
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  So we didn't see each other a lot, but we were on the phone.
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  I would say maybe like once a week.
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  But I didn't, even though she was in hospice care, I didn't realize she was as sick as she was.
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  So she, at this point of the story, she was at the end of her journey into transitioning.
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  So she had called me and obviously I wanted to go visit her.
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  So I went to visit her at the hospital.
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  So if any of you are familiar with New York City, Langolm Hospital,
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  I forget where it is, but it's in Manhattan, obviously.
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  There's a giant statue of a dog in the front of the hospital.
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  I want to say it's four stories high. It's huge.
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  And it's a black and white dog. And I happen to have a black and white dog.
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  So it's a Dalmatian, actually. So it's the same type of a dog.
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  So when I went into the hospital to see her, the hospice nurse met me outside
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  and said to me, when's the last time you spoke with your friend?
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  And I had said two days ago. And she's like, well, she stopped talking.
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  And she's very much unresponsive. But when you go in there, she won't have her
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  eyes open. She won't move her head.
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  She doesn't move anymore. But the last sense that we know that she was hospice
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  nurse that leaves is her sense of hearing.
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  So just talk to her as if she hears you, because I can almost guarantee you
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  she's going to be able to hear you and she'll hear everything you say,
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  but she's just not going to respond.
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  And even if she doesn't look at you or turn her head or any facial gestures, she does hear you.
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  So I said, fine. So I went in there and it was kind of awkward.
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  I don't know if anybody ever gone to anyone in hospice, but like it's hard to
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  have a conversation with someone who's not responding.
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  And just like she said, she was just laying there, not saying anything,
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  not any kind of expression whatsoever, even noticed that I was there.
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  Her eyes were closed, what have you. So I thought to be funny,
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  I would make a joke about this dog that was out on the front of the hospital,
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  the statue, because I should preface this. She was obsessed with my dog.
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  So whenever she came to my house, she adored my dog. We were Facebook friends.
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  She was commenting on my dog, yada, yada, yada.
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  So one of the things I said to her was, oh, I said, it's interesting.
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  It figures that if you were going to find a hospital, you'd find one in a giant spot.
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  Let's say my dog's name is Spot, which it's not on the front.
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  And she turned her head,
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  didn't open her eyes and she smiled. So I know that was affirmation to me that she heard me.
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  But then that was it. That was the only, you know, I was there for maybe an hour, an hour and a half.
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  That was the only time she ever let on that she knew I was there.
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  So, so that, that's the story. So I go home that night and for some reason,
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  I don't know, maybe to go to the bathroom, whatever.
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  I woke up the middle of the night, I want to say three, four o'clock in the
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  morning and I couldn't go back to sleep.
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  So I did what a lot of people do. I went on my phone and the first thing I did
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  was check my social media.
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  Um, and at that time, um, do you know the stories on social media when you post
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  a story and then it just, it goes on and then it disappears and you can't see it again.
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  Like somebody, like we would just, now it posts on your timeline so you could see it.
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  But at that time when somebody posted a story, you, you see it and then it ran
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  for the 10 seconds and then it disappeared and then you couldn't see it anymore.
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  You couldn't even go to the person's page to see it. So when I turned on my
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  phone to check my social media, I was shocked that there was a picture of the
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  dog from the front of the hospital, from the hospital. It was the actual hospital dog, the statue.
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  And it was her. She had posted it. Okay, so I smiled. I'm like,
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  oh, my gosh, she must be doing better.
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  Like, she must be up, you know, and she just posted this picture, you know, whatever.
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  And then I went to her page, and of course, there was nothing there.
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  And I think the last post on her page was something from like a week ago,
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  whatever, when she was still like talking and whatever. Thought nothing of it.
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  Wake up in the front, fell asleep, wake up in the morning and check my social
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  media again. And the first thing I did was go to her page.
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  And on her page, it was the classic heaven gained an angel last night.
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  This people posting on her page that she had passed and then I went to her husband's
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  page and he posted this whole thing that she had passed overnight.
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  So now that's my story. Now, just to add a little bit of a, you know,
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  I think this is a crisis apparition personally.
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  But what happened was her husband, as it would have it, ended up dating another
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  friend of our mutual friend.
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  And they're kind of they're dating, like seriously dating steady,
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  so to speak. And, you know, I had called him the day that she passed away.
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  And, of course, I wasn't going to ask him this, right? This is like the last
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  thing I was going to ask him.
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  But then I ended up going on a double date like two years later with him and
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  my friend, my other friend.
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  And at dinner, I was like trying to muster up the courage to kind of ask something along those lines.
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  So I basically said to him, you know, listen, the last day when she was in the
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  hospital, by any chance, did she come out?
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  Did she talk because they say sometimes people come out and you
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  know um the last moments of life they seem like
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  they are getting their um courage back their strength back whatever and
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  he said no no she never came out and then i asked him if she had her cell phone
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  and he thought that was an odd question and i i kind of told him what i what
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  i just told you and um of course this is what always happens you get this like
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  face and that's why i don't even tell people anymore um he did believe me, but I don't know.
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  So anyway, that's my story. Very
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  quick, very odd. I still have no explanation for it. I know what I saw.
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  And I actually have a screenshot of that picture because when I was at the hospital, I took that.
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  I took the same picture that she posted because I thought it was funny because
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  it looked just like my dog.
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  So anyway, that's my story. Well, you definitely shock me again with another
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  fantastic, fantastic story.
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  And yeah, I have my thoughts on that. But Elaine, I want to turn to you.
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  What are your thoughts? How do you feel about this crisis apparition,
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  timeline shift? What's your thoughts on this?
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  Well, you know, I am inclined to agree with Anne that probably an example of
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  a crisis, what we would call a crisis apparition.
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  However, I'm sure that Anne would also agree that the word crisis apparition
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  is kind of an umbrella term. It's not necessarily a crisis all the time.
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  I mean, they do appear, of course, in moments of danger or distress.
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  I apologize for background noise um but
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  i i forget the technical term in
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  folklore if it's a a final visitation
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  um if that's also an interchangeable term with crisis apparition but yes i would
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  agree with ann that it is one of those experiences where whenever a spirit a
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  soul is transitioning from the living dimension into the hereafter um.
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  It's been widely reported, various different reports, cases,
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  personal experiences all over the world, that there is this tendency to contact,
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  to say goodbye to the most important people in their lives as they go.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I like that.
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  And just from hearing this story, man, I really wish Sunset Chow was here.
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  I can tell you what she said.
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  That would be great. Yeah. What did Sunset Child when you told her?
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  So she is very much into like these timeline shifts and that in some timeline,
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  she's still she didn't pass away in some timeline that her and I are involved in.
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  And she is was very much alive at that time. And she was just sending me a like
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  she was putting it on her story just to kind of let me know she was OK.
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  Okay like i'm fine you know like that's fine
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  i'm just that was a very funny thing you you did when you mentioned the
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  dog ha ha how's your dog so she's
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  she sees it as that um i see it as um and i do agree with elaine like the price
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  separation is kind of like it makes it sound like somebody's in crisis and i
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  think when you transition you're not necessarily always in crisis i think my
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  friend was prepared to transition because when i spoke with her um a few days
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  earlier she was she had accepted the fact that she was comfortable with it.
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  But to me, I see it as she was giving me a thank you for coming.
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  Yes, that does look like your dog. That was very funny. You made me smile.
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  And I'm acknowledging and I'm passing on. You know, I'm going,
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  I'm just saying goodbye. The only way I can say goodbye at this point, you know.
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  So, but Sunset saw it as a different timeline. She's still alive and,
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  you know, that would be nice.
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  I got you. So Elaine, what do you think about that? Do you feel that it could
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  have also been a timeline shift?
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  Well, anything is possible. And
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  my knowledge as far as timeline
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  shifts is limited compared to what I know about paranormal and supernatural
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  experiences as far as the more traditional ghost story or encounter with the
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  spirit world side of things.
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  Um, but it does sound from what Anne described, it does sound like the,
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  the classic story of a final visitation.
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  Um, and that the, the Facebook story, um, I, I know I've had personal experiences.
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  I won't unpack all that right here, but I, I've heard time and again,
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  and I'm sure you both have as well of signs right after a loved one has passed
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  of some sort of signal that's like,
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  I still exist.
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  I am still here.
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  And perhaps that story, it's sort of like in yesteryear, oftentimes it was a
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  phone call in the middle of the night.
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  You can't really prove that it happened. Maybe you're not even sure personally
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  that it really happened.
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  Maybe you dreamed it. Maybe it was a grief hallucination or something like that.
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  That's what a lot of people say after they've had those kind of experiences, you know,
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  or something's moved around in the grieving person's environment or the smell
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  of the person's perfume or cologne out of nowhere.
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  Their favorite bird appearing in the window. So it's the phenomenon of after
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  someone we love or after someone that was close to us passes,
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  it's like they're thoughtful enough in the spirit world to send the living a
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  calling card, just a confirmation.
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  I'm still here. It's okay. I made it. I crossed over.
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  And that's what it sounds like to me. All of it put together.
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  But then again, I'm a little bit ignorant of timeline shifts.
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  Yeah. yeah yeah i can agree so here's my here's just my take on this because.
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  I can agree with the timeline shift
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  and it's not so much then i'm you know connected well with
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  sunset child on this but i will say
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  this there's always going to be that timeline because
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  like we you know discussed even in our last one timelines and
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  tapestries that there's always going to be always numerous timelines so your
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  friend is both alive and well she's passed on uh so all that's existing all
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  on different levels on different planes no matter what happened,
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  So I think that's the key as far as being able to transmit something electronically
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  or whatever it may be that people can do because they are on another timeline.
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  So yes, I, I hold credence to the timeline thing.
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  However, it's just, it's a little bit too much of a personal message.
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  You know, that's the other thing. Like you're talking about the dog,
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  the dog, that looks like your dog, which you told her when you spoke to her last.
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  That's a very, very personal message. And I do believe that crisis apparition
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  or whatever, I mean, just an apparition itself.
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  Cause I think we can manifest ourselves into any form.
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  And I think even electronically, which is probably a lot easier because from
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  what I understand, a lot of like ghost apparitions, they use that power in electronics,
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  especially they harness that power.
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  They're able to do, you know, certain things and manipulate certain things.
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  So I'm right in between both of them, but I do believe it was more or less an
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  apparition sending you a message.
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  But again, the only way to really do that is again, we're always,
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  even me, I'm not alive right now in a different timeline, you know,
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  but I'm alive in this one.
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  And, you know, that's where a lot of this communication comes from, I feel.
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  So I'm, like I said, I'm right in between, I'm right in the middle on that one.
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  And I hate to, you know, not be so definitive with that.
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  But that's just what I feel. I really think.
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  That it was though a very personal message. And I don't think it could have
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  just been any apparition or anything like that.
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  It was your friend. It was coming from a spiritual realm.
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  But again, that spiritual realm could have been coming from that other timeline.
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  Yeah. And I've actually like, I've entertained, um, the possibility in the past
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  like that, you know, maybe I just drunked it, you know?
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  Um, but I think, you know, we've had this conversation before.
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  I meditate every day, twice a day, like religiously.
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  And I mean, maybe I'm sure you've heard of, you know, people that can kind of
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  get out of their bodies when they meditate and do things like that,
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  which I don't think I can do that.
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  I've had one experience where it was, I think I may have, but I've learned when
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  I meditate to, because your meditations could be so vivid, to let myself know
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  when it's an actual physical thing, as opposed to like, I'm in my mind.
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  And what I'll do is, if I can feel my hands, then I know that I'm,
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  it's the physical world, right?
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  And so that night, when, well, part of me was thinking about them,
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  like, am I dreaming this? It's like, she literally on her phone.
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  And that was one of the things I did. I gave myself a test and I was like,
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  no, I can feel my hands. I'm awake. I'm definitely awake.
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  Like I do this regularly now because I meditate a lot.
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  Sometimes it's hard. The line between being what's like
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  physical and what's on the other side is it's really
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  thin so i've thought about that
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  but i know i was awake i am sure i was awake so and it was very personal because
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  it was the the only thing that i spoke to her where she seemed like she heard
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  me because the rest of the time she was just laying there she wasn't moving
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  she just was like like if you walked into someone's room when they're sleeping,
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  it was the only time she acknowledged me was the comment on the dog so it's
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  kind of interesting yeah absolutely interesting indeed Elaine do you want to add anything to that.
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  That was a beautiful story and um thank
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  you for sharing that with us that was a
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  really you know it's really moving story of a transition and whether it was
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  a timeline shift or a final visitation a crisis apparition um it does sound
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  like a blessing and an honor to have experienced that with another soul at any rate.
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  And it was certainly great to hear that story.
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  You're welcome. It was a, it was a nice moment for sure. Shocking,
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  but nice at the same time.
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  It doesn't scare me. I just, it's, um, it's a nice memory, I guess I could say
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  that I, you know, in my heart, I feel like it was real. So yeah.
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  Well, perfect. I really, I'm enjoying these little group chats that we've been doing.
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  I think we're going to be doing these a lot more because I got so much more
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  on the table for eye opener society,
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  but I want to thank Ann Lund and
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  remember she's with haunted and waiting and you could go to haunted and
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  waiting dot blog and check out her actual
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  blogs and we're still waiting for her book to come out i can't wait
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  to be the first one to get a copy just a
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  little hint there and i also want to thank elaine from arcane oracle remember
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  you could listen you know whenever she's got that opportunity to put out those
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  episodes they're absolutely amazing i look forward to it because i use it as
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  guidance for the coming month i there's They've been so accurate,
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  the predictions with the horoscopes and the tarot readings,
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  and she's doing it for free.
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  But don't forget, you could go to Elaine's ArcaneTarot.com if you want to book
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  a reading that's personal to you, not just a general reading.
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  Definitely check out that website as well. I'm going to put links to everything on here.
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  I want to say thank you. Elaine, thank you really for showing up tonight on
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  this year episode. So it's really good to have you and I'm hoping we could get
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  another group podcast chat like this again.
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  Well, thank you so much for having me and I really enjoyed it.
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  Great. And Anne Lund, thank you so very much. It's really good to hear these
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  stories from you and waiting for the next episode that you have coming out.
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  And in the meantime, don't forget, everybody, you can check out all of our episodes.
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  And right now I'm on every platform, including our own, iOpenerSociety.podbean.com.
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  And I'm also working on YouTube. I'm just trying to build up an audience with that.
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  I've been doing these smaller, like two-minute podcasts that deal with mindfulness,
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  meditation, thoughts that are on my mind. And I'm going to be expanding that.
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  And we're going to be working with Appalachian Roots, Rooted in Ruins.
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  They're out of Kentucky.
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  So buy me a coffee backslash EyeOpenerSociety EyeOpenerSociety.podbean.com
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  Don't forget to listen to Ann Lund's Haunted and Waiting and read her blogs
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  at hauntedandwaiting.blog and don't forget Elaine's Arcanetarot.com if you want
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  to book your own readings and she offers so many other services And she's extremely
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  affordable And you can listen to her podcast.
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  Elaine's Arcane Oracle Thank you everybody for joining us And we will see you again really soon.