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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 20) (5/18/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  In this episode, we're gonna pick up where we left
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  off with the Glen Maxwell deposition. McCauley, do you know
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  if Jeffrey had sex with redacted Pagliuka object to the
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  form and the Foundation? Maxwell? First of all, wouldn't have
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  any knowledge of that. McCauley, We are going to take
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  a quick break, So they take their quick little break
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  and it goes from four thirty nine to four fifty four,
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  and then it's right back to it with McCauley asking
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  questions once again. McCauley, Miss Maxwell, we were talking earlier
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  about the Journal, and I believe you said in two
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  thousand and four, two thousand and five you are no
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  longer working and responsible for that journal. Is that correct?
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  Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation? Maxwell?
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  What are you referring to this document right here? McCauley, Yes, Maxwell,
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  I don't know who is the author of this or
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  I can't tell you what is in here versus what
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  would have been here when I was around. I can't
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  testify to that, McCauley. Were you around in two thousand
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  and four or in two thousand and five. Maxwell, I
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  already testified that I was there when Jeffrey's mother passed away,
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  and so you know I did visit for her passing,
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  and I believe I was there for a couple of
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  days in two thousand and five. McCauley, So, if an
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  employee of mister Epstein in two thousand and four said
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  that you were the employee's direct supervisor, would that be incorrect?
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  Mister Pagliuca objection to the Form and the Foundation? Maxwell,
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  what employee? What's the circumstances and what is the story?
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  I don't know what you were asking me. McCauley, if
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  redacted said, in two thousand and four, when he was hired,
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  you were his direct supervisor. Would that be true? Maxwell? No, McCauley,
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  were you in two thousand and four supervising redacted? Pagliuka
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  objection to Form and the Foundation? Maxwell, I have never
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  supervised redacted McCauley, did redacted take orders from you? Pagliuka
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  objection to the Form and the Foundation? Maxwell, she worked
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  for Epstein. McCauley, if redacted, said, you had knowledge of
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  underage girls coming to Jeffrey's home for the purpose of sex.
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  Would you contend that that is truthful. Pagluka objection to
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  the form and the foundation of the question. Maxwell, I
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  have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry, McCauley.
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  If redacted said that you have knowledge of underage girls
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  coming to Jeffries's home for the purpose of having massage
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  involving sex, would you say that that statement is truthful,
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  Miss Pagliuka, objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell.
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  I can't testify to what redacted said or didn't say. McCauley.
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  I'm saying, if redacted said that you had knowledge that
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  there was girls coming over to the house that were
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  under age for the purpose of sex, would that statement
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  be true, Mister Pagliuca. Objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell.
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  I can't testify to what redacted said or didn't say,
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  or what he thought. McCauley, did you have knowledge of
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  underage girls coming to Jeffrey Epstein's house for the purpose
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  of sex? Maxwell, No, McCauley, earlier, I believe you testified.
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  Correct me if I'm wrong that the document that is
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  in front of you, the thicker document, was a stolen document.
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  Do you know who stole that document? Maxwell? I had
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  read that redacted had stolen the document. McCauley. And where
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  did you read that? Maxwell? I believe it was reported
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  in the press. McCauley. Earlier we were talking about computers
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  at Jeffrey Epstein's home. Did you have a computer that
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  was your computer located in Jeffrey's home? Pagliuk objection to
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  the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell, I've testified to the
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  computer already. Even when I was around, there was a
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  computer that people had access to. McCauley. So is redacted
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  telling the truth when he says that he downloaded that
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  book from your computer? Paklyyuka objection to the Form and
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  the Foundation? Maxwell, I couldn't possibly tell you what redacted
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  did or didn't do, or said or didn't say. McCauley.
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  Was it on your computer? Maxwell? I already testified, I
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  have no idea where this document came from. McCauley. Did
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  you have a list of names of individuals with contact
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  information for Jeffrey Epstein on your personal computer? Maxwell? Again,
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  that wasn't my computer. I already said that that was
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  a computer that lots of people would have. So I
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  have no recollection of this document being on it. So
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  I don't know where this came from. McCauley. I understand
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  the computer at the house that you're referencing on a
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  personal computer of yours. Did you have that document? Maxwell?
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  I don't know where this document came from, so I
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  can't possibly say this document was on my computer that
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  I may have had access to. McCauley. On a personal
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  computer of your own, did you have lists of phone
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  numbers and contact information relating to Jeffrey Epstein? Maxwell, Like everybody,
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  I have an address book, but I can't possibly testify
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  to where this thing came from. McCauley. Was it your
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  address book or was it addresses that related to Jeffrey Epstein?
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  Pagliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I
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  don't know what you're asking me. McCauley. On your personal
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  computer the address book you are referencing, was it your
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  address book with individuals you knew, or was it an
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  address book for your employer, Jeffrey Epstein? Maxwell. Jeffrey has
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  his situation, and I have no This is Jeffrey's. It
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  came from his home, so I can't testify to anything
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  about this in that period of time, McCauley, So you
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  didn't have on your computer a list of contact information
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  for individuals that was related to Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell, I
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  don't recall exactly what I had back in two thousand
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  and four and two thousand and five, so I can't
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  say what I had back then that relates to his address,
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  and I can't recall McCauley, So it is possible that
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  someone could have downloaded from your personal computer a list
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  of names and addresses that were affiliated with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Pagliuka objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell. This
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  didn't come from any computer of mine, McCauley, But it's
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  possible that someone could have downloaded a list of names
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  and addresses affiliated with Jeffrey Epstein from your computer. Mister Pagliuca,
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  objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell. I already
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  said I didn't have the computer there, so I don't
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  know where this came from. I have no idea, McCauley.
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  I'm going to read to you some testimony from redacted's deposition,
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  and it's on page three seventy, and I want to
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  ask you a question about it, if it's true or
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  if it's false. Mister Pakliuka, I'm going to object unless
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  you show the witness of the document, McCauley, I will
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  pass it. We are not going to market. We will
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  skip it. McCauley. Did you ever tell redacted that he'd
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  better watch out and better keep his mouth shut with
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  respect to what occurred at Epstein's home, Mister Pagliuka objection
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  to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell, doesn't sound like
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  anything I would say, McCauley. Did you ever threaten redacted
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  in any way if he were to disclose information he
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  learned from his employment with Jeffrey Epstein? Pagliuka objection to
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  the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell. I'm happy to answer no.
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  I never threatened him in any way, McCauley. Were you
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  concerned that he was going to disclose that Jeffrey Epstein
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  was trafficking underage girls? Pagliuka objection to the Form and
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  the Foundation. Maxwell. First of all, there are so many
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  things wrong with that question, but I have no knowledge
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  of what you were talking about. McCauley. Have you ever
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  contacted or instructed anyone to contact any witness in this
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  case for the purpose of threatening them not to testify
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  in this case? Pagliuka objection to the Form and the Foundation.
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  Maxwell I have never called anybody with any kind of
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  reference to this case or anything you just mentioned. I
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  never threatened anyone. McCauley. Have you ever directed anyone to
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  call a witness relevant to this case and threaten them
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  not to testify? Pagliuca objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell,
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  I have never done such a thing, McCauley. Did Jeffrey
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  Epstein or you ever ask any female regardless of age
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  to carry Jeffrey's baby for him? Pagliuka objection to the
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  form and the foundation McCauley, anything along those lines. Pagliuka
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  objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell, can you
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  repeat the question please, McCauley, did you or Jeffrey Epstein
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  ever ask any female, regardless of age to carry Jeffrey
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  Epstein's baby for him? Mister Pagliuka objection to the form
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  and the foundation? Maxwell? Are you asking to this? McCauley
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  just interrupt to become pregnant? Did you or Jeffrey Epstein
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  ever ask any female to become pregnant and carry Jeffrey
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  Epstein's baby for you or for Jeffrey. Mister Pagliuka objection
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  to form. Maxwell, You need to be very specific. I
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  have no idea what you're talking about. That's completely rubbish, McCauley.
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  Did you or Jeffrey Epstein ask any female to become
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  pregnant and carry his baby for either him or for you?
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  Mister Pagliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Go ahead, Maxwell.
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  I can't testify to anything Jeffrey did or didn't do
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  when I am not present, but I have never asked
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  anybody to carry a baby for me, McCauley, or anything
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  along those lines. Mister Pakliuka object to the form and
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  the foundation. McCauley. I want to make sure we are
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  talking about the same thing, not physically carry a baby,
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  I mean become pregnant with a baby. Pagliuka objection to
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  the form and the foundation. Mcaul I want to make
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  sure that we're clear. Maxwell. I don't know what you're asking, McCauley.
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  That's why I want to make sure that we are clear. Maxwell,
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  we are clear. I never asked anybody to carry a
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  baby for me. McCauley. Do you know if Jeffrey ever
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  asked anybody to carry a baby for him? Maxwell, I'm
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  not going to characterize any conversation Jeffrey had with somebody else. McCauley,
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  you are not aware of that, is that your testimony? Maxwell,
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  I am testifying I never have and I will not
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  testify for anything for Jeffrey McCauley. Did you ever hear
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  Jeffrey ask anybody to carry a baby for him? Maxwell,
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  I don't recollect conversation about Jeffrey and babies in any form. McCauley,
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  did Jeffrey ever tell you he wanted to have a baby, Maxwell,
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  I don't recollect baby conversations with Jeffrey McCauley, so he
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  never told you he wanted to have a baby. Maxwell,
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  I don't have any recollection any baby conversation with him
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  saying he wanted to have a baby. McCall, did you
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  ever bring any females to the redacted house that were
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  not your friend's children that were under the age of eighteen?
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  Pagliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I
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  have never, ever, to my knowledge, brought anybody under the
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  age of eighteen that's not a friend of my family
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  or my nieces or nephews to that blank household. McCauley,
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  earlier today, you testify it. I believe that with respect
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  to your town home Jeffrey paid for some of that
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  and then gave you a loan. Is that correct, mister Pagliuka,
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  objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell I said, actually,
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  I think it was a loan. I believe it was
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  a loan. McCauley, the whole thing, Maxwell, as best as
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  I can recollect. McCauley, did you pay that loan back? Maxwell?
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  I don't have any outstanding loans with them, McCauley, so
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  you paid it back? Maxwell? I don't have any outstanding
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  loans with them. McCauley. That's not an answer to my question.
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  Did you pay back Jeffrey for the loans? Maxwell? I've
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  paid back any loan I had with him. McCauley, you
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  have or haven't? Maxwell have McCauley, were there any other
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  gifts that Jeffrey gave you during that time period of say,
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  nineteen ninety nine to the present that were in excess
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  of fifty thousand dollars? Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form
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  and the foundation. Maxwell, what's the question again, McCauley, did
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  Jeffrey give you any gifts in excess of amounts of
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  fifty thousand dollars? I'm not talking about a scarf here
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  or there are something insignificant from nineteen ninety nine to
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  the present, Maxwell, I can't recollect any gifts. McCauley, Did
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  he ever buy you a car? Maxwell? I really don't recall.
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  I can't recall. It's a long time. McCauley. You can't
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  recall if Jeffrey ever bought you a car? Maxwell. I
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  believe he did buy me a car. I don't recall
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  how much it costs. I don't recall any of the
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  financial details of that. McCauley. Do you still have that car? Maxwell?
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  I don't McCauley, how long ago did you get rid
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  of that car? Maxwell? I don't recall all the cars.
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  There was a car back, there was I don't recall.
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  I'm sorry, McCauley, he supplied you with several cars. Pagliuca
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  objection to the form and the mischaracterization of the testimony. Maxwell,
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  I don't recall details of the cars. McCauley. Did he
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  supply you with more than one car? Maxwell? Over the
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  course of time, I've driven many cars McCauley that Jeffrey
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  provided you. Maxwell. There were cars that could be driven,
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  and I just don't recall them. McCauley, were they in
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  your name? Maxwell? I don't recall, McCauley. You don't recall
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  if Jeffrey Epstein ever put a car in your name. Maxwell,
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  we are talking a long time ago. I don't really recall, McCauley.
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  When's the last time you had a car from Jeffrey
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  Epstein that you used? Maxwell? Two thousand, two thousand and one,
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  two thousand and two. McCauley, do you recall what kind
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  of car it was? Maxwell? I don't recall. I'm sorry, McCauley.
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  Did Epstein purchase anything else for you besides the townhouse
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  and cars that would be over the amount of fifty
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  thousand dollars? Maxwell? I didn't say that he did. I
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  set alone, McCauley, besides the loan. I'm sorry, you were right.
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  Did you say you had a loan and you said
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  you paid that back? Correct? Maxwell, that's my testimony. McCauley,
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  anything else in excess of fifty thousand that he would
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  have purchased for you? Maxwell, we are talking two thousand
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  and two, two thousand and one. I don't recall any gifts, really, McCauley,
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  when's the last time Jeffrey Epstein gave you a gift
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  in the excess of fifty thousand dollars. Mister Pagliuca assumes
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  facts not in evidence forman foundation. McCauley, you're saying you
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  don't remember from two thousand and one and two thousand
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  and two. I'm asking, when is the last time you
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  remember Jeffrey Epstein purchasing a gift for you? Maxwell, I
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  don't recall gifts in access of fifty thousand. I barely
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  recall gifts. I barely recall a lot of this. I'm sorry,
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  I don't recall. McCauley. Is Jeffrey Epstein paying for your
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  legal fees in this case? Maxwell? No? McCaulay, is he
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  paying for anything related to this case? Maxwell? No. All right,
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  we're gonna wrap up there and we'll pick up where
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  we left off in the next episode. All of the
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  information that goes with this episode can be found in
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