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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, October eight. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: and now a guy who's always operating at full capacity.
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Speaker 1: J Peace Shadrick, You got that right. Welcome in Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on this Thursday. Ahead of the Jaguars Texans
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Speaker 1: matchup in week five, J P. Shadrick with Jeff Loghman,
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Speaker 1: We've got a show for you today, the Jaguars Texans
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Speaker 1: preview will dig into the XS and ohs a little
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Speaker 1: bit today. How these teams match up. The defense looking
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Speaker 1: for a sixty minute performance, played pretty well in the
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Speaker 1: first half. They gotta turn over, they had to lead
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Speaker 1: at halftime, and then I got run all over in
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Speaker 1: the second half. Last week. They've got a face to
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Speaker 1: Shawn Watson here in week five. The balance of the
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Speaker 1: offense continues to be a talking point. How can they
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Speaker 1: get James Robinson the football a little bit more on
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Speaker 1: the ground and balance it out. Tony Pselli joins us
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Speaker 1: from Chicago at four thirty. He's up there for Thursday
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Speaker 1: Night football, the Bears and the Buccaneers. Brady Versus folds
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Speaker 1: tonight COVID nineteen issues around the league, including certainly in Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: The Division rivals having plenty of issues and nothing official
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Speaker 1: has come down from the league yet as to this
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Speaker 1: week's game with the Bills. Will go into Thursday Night
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Speaker 1: football as well with Tony Jeff Lagaman from the home studio.
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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, what's happening, hey, JP? How you doing, Buddy?
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Speaker 1: Doing well? We're ready for some football. The Jackson a
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Speaker 1: three game slide going now. The Texans are oh and
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Speaker 1: four and they fired their head coach. Bill O'Brien has
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Speaker 1: gone on Monday, Romeo Cornell as the interim head coach.
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Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, well, well we'll hear from Doug
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Speaker 1: Maroon coming up. He's obviously very close to Bill O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: But does this do anything for the Texans? Does this
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Speaker 1: rally the troops circle the wagons, filling the cliche for
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Speaker 1: something to get them maybe a little more, a little
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Speaker 1: more pepper than in their step of sorts this week.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a great question, And I think teams
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Speaker 1: sometimes can get I don't want to say a boost
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Speaker 1: or a lift, but I think they can all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden play differently after the coach is fired. Because
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Speaker 1: when a coach gets fired, everybody kind of gets put
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Speaker 1: on notice. Hey, look, your jobs are on the line,
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Speaker 1: and if we don't play well after the coach has
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Speaker 1: already gone. So guess who's net be my rear out right?
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Speaker 1: I mean if I'm a player, so you start to
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Speaker 1: think about, well, I better start taking care of my
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Speaker 1: own job so that I can keep my job going forward.
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Speaker 1: So you could get a little bit of a boost,
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Speaker 1: But then it's not. It's nothing that's typically permanent or
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Speaker 1: long lasting. And uh and I think it's a and
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Speaker 1: sometimes in some cases it can be very disruptive because
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Speaker 1: the players now have a distraction. You now have a
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Speaker 1: lot of change, and especially in the year with COVID
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Speaker 1: and protocols, And I mean it's hard enough playing football
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Speaker 1: right now than it is without trying to make an
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Speaker 1: end season change with with the head coach. And and
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Speaker 1: for me personally, I don't know what the Texans are doing.
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Speaker 1: Why would you fire the head coach after four games
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Speaker 1: unless it was something really agregious, which we haven't heard
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Speaker 1: anything of that nature. And if you're firing a coach
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Speaker 1: because he lost the first four games, he just gave
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Speaker 1: him the title of general manager to go along with
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Speaker 1: being the head coach back in January. He has taken
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Speaker 1: your team to a division title. I think four out
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Speaker 1: of the last five years. You go back to teen,
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Speaker 1: he started the season OUTO and three and guess what,
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Speaker 1: he led the team to the playoffs that year. I just,
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Speaker 1: I just I just don't understand it. This to me,
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Speaker 1: j P, I smell, I smell power play. And and
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with the Texans. I'm
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Speaker 1: not there to experience it. But but the whole Jack
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Speaker 1: Easterly thing about how he ended up in the position
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Speaker 1: that he did is very baffling to me. And and
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Speaker 1: I think it's very suspicious with this move that the
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Speaker 1: Texans have made. And we'll see there are some reports
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Speaker 1: of some some player and coach interactions the last few weeks. Well,
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Speaker 1: I know what what we're smelling. You know, you said
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Speaker 1: you smell that Oden for smells bad. No matter what
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Speaker 1: you put out there, that that just stinks. So things
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Speaker 1: are not going well in Houston, of course. So let's
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Speaker 1: hear from head coach Doug Moron, who was very close
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Speaker 1: to Bill O'Brien, and he had some thoughts about the
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Speaker 1: firing of his friend earlier this week in this league.
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Speaker 1: I probably I would say that you know, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I probably know him better than than than anyone.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I know that he's an outstanding football coach.
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Speaker 1: He's he's proven that. UM. I know that he's very
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Speaker 1: loyal to his coaches and players and organizations. I think that, Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that has won four out
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Speaker 1: of five titles in the a f C South. And
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Speaker 1: I think he's someone that's uh, he's outstanding family man,
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Speaker 1: he cares, um. Um, I mean, there's just so many
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Speaker 1: great qualities. You know. I can't believe I have to
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Speaker 1: say this publicly now, you know, because normally I bust
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Speaker 1: his his chops. But um, and he's a great friend
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Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's always sad, you know when
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Speaker 1: you see things like this, and UM, you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that he'll have, you know, opportunities down the road
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Speaker 1: because because of all the things that he's done. All right,
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Speaker 1: So obviously we we've known this storyline for a few
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Speaker 1: years how close they are. So it's on the Romeo Cornell,
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Speaker 1: who doesn't have a great record as a head coach
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Speaker 1: in his career, but he's been in the league and
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Speaker 1: is highly respected. He's been in the league since one.
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Speaker 1: He's been around for a long time, and he's been
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Speaker 1: there for a long time, so it's not like a
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Speaker 1: huge amount of change except the head coach is gone.
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Speaker 1: You're buying that, uh? I mean, look that That's my
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Speaker 1: whole point is that. I mean, first of all, Romeo
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Speaker 1: Cornell is one of the most respected coaches to ever
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Speaker 1: walk the halls of the NFL. I mean, he's right
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Speaker 1: up there with you know, a Terry Robiski, you know,
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about the guys that have been around
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Speaker 1: for a long period of time and Gardener just a
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Speaker 1: ton of respect. And Romeo Cornell, even though he no
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Speaker 1: longer holds the title of defensive coordinator, has been made
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Speaker 1: a big impact with Houston Texans in a lot of
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Speaker 1: different ways, and probably the most significant way was being
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Speaker 1: a defensive coach. And so, I don't you know, looking
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Speaker 1: a lot of people when when you have this type
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Speaker 1: of situation where an interim coach takes over, a lot
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Speaker 1: of people say, well maybe the interim coach had a
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Speaker 1: little bit of influence and getting the coach fired. That
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Speaker 1: if anybody's thinking that with Romeo Cornell, they're they're barking
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Speaker 1: up the wrong tree. That's not the type of guy
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Speaker 1: that he is, and Romeo Cornell would love nothing more
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Speaker 1: than to continue to work for Bill O'Brien the capacity
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Speaker 1: that he was working in, and so I think he's
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Speaker 1: gonna do a good job for the Houston Texans. And
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Speaker 1: I think the interesting thing to me is is that
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Speaker 1: as a head coach, you know, I mean, you have
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Speaker 1: a limited amount of time to really put your imprint
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Speaker 1: and you're not going to change the scheme, you know that.
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Speaker 1: That was kind of my point there is that you know,
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Speaker 1: what are you affecting change wise by changing your head
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Speaker 1: coach after you've just finished your fourth game of the season.
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Speaker 1: You just can't really affect any change whatsoever, you know,
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Speaker 1: So that move right there, you know, especially with the
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Speaker 1: team that has clearly has a franchise quarterback in Deshaun Watson,
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Speaker 1: even though his numbers are a little bit down this year,
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Speaker 1: but I think the number of weapons that he has
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Speaker 1: around him certainly are down this year too. So, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, good for the Jaguars. And you know, you
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Speaker 1: got a little bit of dysfunction, I guess you would
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Speaker 1: call it in Houston or or you know, uh change,
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, distraction. You know, could
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Speaker 1: that be to the Jaguars advengage this week? Maybe, But
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Speaker 1: then it could be the opposite, and that you could
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Speaker 1: see a Texans team that comes out with a lot
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Speaker 1: of pepping or step and all of a sudden they
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Speaker 1: get a little charge out of it and last for
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Speaker 1: a week or two weeks or however long it left for.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Right the Jaguars played the Texans twice
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Speaker 1: in the next five weeks of the season. By the way,
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Speaker 1: we asked Gardner Minshew this week the Jags media did
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Speaker 1: earlier about the situation in Houston. He had a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a different perspective. And we got enough termoil
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Speaker 1: and turmoil going on our own. You know, we gotta
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Speaker 1: fix out first. Um. So hey, we're fired out, We're
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Speaker 1: ready to go. Um. You know, I know a lot
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Speaker 1: of people writing us out, but the belief on this
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Speaker 1: team is still very strong, and um, you know we're
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Speaker 1: ready to get out there as well. Yeah, the Jags
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Speaker 1: have their own things going on right now to worry
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Speaker 1: too much about what's going on in Houston. That was
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Speaker 1: not the word he used, but I'm not gonna go there.
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Speaker 1: But I think it was a little bit more of
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Speaker 1: a of a colorful, colorful, colorful term that Gardner used,
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Speaker 1: and uh, I thought that. I think so sometimes when
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Speaker 1: Gardner miss You talks, I just sit there and go.
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Speaker 1: You gotta love him. He's one of those guys that
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Speaker 1: you just want to you want to sit down and
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Speaker 1: have a have a beer with and hang out with
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Speaker 1: because he's just so cool, laid back and and real,
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Speaker 1: you know. And a lot of times guys when they
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Speaker 1: get up there and at the podium, they just sometimes
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Speaker 1: act uh prepared and and buttoned up. And Gardners sometimes
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Speaker 1: he just he just lets it fly. And I think
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Speaker 1: that was a classic line by him, and in a
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Speaker 1: good line by him. You know. One one more thing
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Speaker 1: though about Bill O'Brien. A lot of people say, you know,
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Speaker 1: poor poor Bill O'Brien, And the one thing I will
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Speaker 1: say is that Bill brian is gonna get a job.
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Speaker 1: I mean, make no mistake about it. Bill O'Brien is
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Speaker 1: a good football coach. What he was able to do
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Speaker 1: at Penn State alone was unbelievable. And so you have
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Speaker 1: a head coach with a phenomenal track record, and with
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans winning Division championships, they did a great
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Speaker 1: job with the Tectans. Now you can sit there and
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Speaker 1: debate all you want about the role and the job
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Speaker 1: that he did as general manager and trading away a
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Speaker 1: lot of really good players, you know, the DeAndre Hopkins
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Speaker 1: and Clowney and not really getting a whole lot and return.
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Speaker 1: And I have been one of those guys that has
10:37
Speaker 1: sat there and criticized a lot of the moves that
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Speaker 1: he made as a general manager. Essentially, he traded away
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Speaker 1: a lot of the future of the Houston Texans to
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Speaker 1: get guys on the football team that have produced very
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Speaker 1: little to nothing. And so they should have just fired
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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien the general manager, or in fact, if if
10:57
Speaker 1: you want to go back and and be honest about
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Speaker 1: whoever hired or allowed Bill O'Brien to assume control as
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Speaker 1: the general manager and to allow him to do though,
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Speaker 1: was whoever allowed that to happen. They should be looking
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Speaker 1: at their own job security. But you really can't because
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Speaker 1: that goes all the way to ownership JP in that situation.
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Speaker 1: But one one thing Bill O'Brien had, I think this
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Speaker 1: year on a contract, two more years on a contract
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Speaker 1: he was fired. He's gonna get all of his money
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Speaker 1: that he was due and at some point he's going
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Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to coach again. Orther it be
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Speaker 1: at the college level and maybe even at the NFL
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Speaker 1: level again, and he's gonna be just fine. And when
11:35
Speaker 1: those guys sign up to be coaches in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League, they know what they're getting into, so so
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Speaker 1: no surprises there when somebody gets fired. More on this
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Speaker 1: from my head coach Doug Moron coming up with the
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Speaker 1: Doug Moron Show will get his perspective again with his
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Speaker 1: friend Bill O'Brien who was let go this week. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's figure some of the Jaguars stuff out. I was
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Speaker 1: starting on offense here. Uh. DJ Chark was back in
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Speaker 1: the lineup last week, obviously an immediate impact there. James
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Speaker 1: Robinson put together another hundred another one yards scrimmage yard
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Speaker 1: day in Cincinnati. What is the biggest thing that this
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Speaker 1: Jaguars offense needs to improve upon in your opinion right now? Well? Everything, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think first and foremost. You know, they came out
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Speaker 1: of the gates and they were extremely successful at third
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Speaker 1: down completion completion percentage and also the conversion rate on
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Speaker 1: third down, and that has dropped significantly in the last
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and so in order for your offense
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Speaker 1: to be more productive, they need to find a way
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Speaker 1: to stay on the field more. Well, that's all about
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Speaker 1: third down. I mean last week I think it was
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Speaker 1: a good example of that. They were i think, only
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Speaker 1: on third down. And it's hard to win when you're
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Speaker 1: at that level. And how do you how do you
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Speaker 1: be better on third down? Well, you're you're you're better
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Speaker 1: on the first and second down leading up the third
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Speaker 1: down to give you a more favorable down and distance.
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Speaker 1: And and also quite simply, your quarterback has to play better.
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Speaker 1: And uh and yes we understand, and everybody sits there
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Speaker 1: and says, well, Gardner Minshew's only you know, he started
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Speaker 1: sixteen games and that was the sixteenth game and Cincinnati. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's true, and yes he's got a lot of room
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Speaker 1: for improvement, and he's still young, and and so you
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Speaker 1: expect the improvement to come, and I'm sure it will.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is, if you want to win now,
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Speaker 1: he needs to be better now, and your offense as
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Speaker 1: a whole needs to be better, you know. I think
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Speaker 1: I think the one difference I think that really stood
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Speaker 1: out to me JP in that game was you kind
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Speaker 1: of compared to performances of the two quarterbacks because it's
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Speaker 1: just natural. I mean, you just do that. And when
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Speaker 1: you watch Joe Burrow, who's another young player, who was
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Speaker 1: squeezing the ball and putting it in tight windows. And
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Speaker 1: it wasn't like he just did it in that game.
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Speaker 1: He was doing it in the games leading up to that,
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Speaker 1: and when he had a man coverage opportunity, he was
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Speaker 1: putting it on the dime to his tight end, crossing
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Speaker 1: over with great coverage by Joe Schober. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew and the offense are gonna take the next step,
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Speaker 1: then he needs to start doing that. He needs to
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Speaker 1: find the windows in the zone. He needs to be
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Speaker 1: able to put it on a dime when he needs
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Speaker 1: to with type man coverage. Because those are the things
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Speaker 1: I think that right now that he's not doing good enough.
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Speaker 1: And and look all that understood that he is completing
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Speaker 1: the ball at a high percentage rate, you know what,
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Speaker 1: seventy plus percent, which is tremendous, but you also have
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Speaker 1: to kind of factor in what's the effective completion percentage
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Speaker 1: when I stay effective as far as how it's affecting
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Speaker 1: your team. Is he completing balls that's making a difference
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Speaker 1: for his offense, and right now it needs to be
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Speaker 1: better the run game. Jake Ruden talked about this today.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's been points this season where they've been
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Speaker 1: so far behind that maybe he's come off the run
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Speaker 1: a little bit early. How did he make that last week?
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Speaker 1: And you know, you know, obviously, if they get to
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Speaker 1: a point where they're tied in the game, leading a game,
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Speaker 1: at some point, feed the rock to James Robinson sounds
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Speaker 1: pretty good to me. Yeah, well, you gotta get there first.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't even been there yet, you know,
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Speaker 1: and so, uh, it's hard to have a game where
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Speaker 1: you're feeding James Robinson because you're not playing good enough
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Speaker 1: to get there, you know. So I thought he did
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Speaker 1: a pretty good job of sticking more with the run
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Speaker 1: this game than he did certainly the week before against Miami,
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Speaker 1: where I thought he abandoned a little bit. Because you know,
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Speaker 1: James Robinson is a great player. I mean, James Robinson
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Speaker 1: is playing so well that right now, you don't even
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Speaker 1: have a reason to bring Chris Thompson on the field.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care if it's third down in
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Speaker 1: a passing situation or not. Because James Robinson is a
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Speaker 1: better third down back then Chris Thompson. And Chris Thompson
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Speaker 1: was brought in here to be the man on third Town,
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Speaker 1: you know, so credit to James Robinson. And I think
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Speaker 1: there are ways that they can get creative more so
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Speaker 1: with James Robinson in the passing game. And I think
15:52
Speaker 1: that that's something I'm sure that that Jay Gruden's Look,
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Speaker 1: when you when you have a young player, it takes
15:57
Speaker 1: a certain period of time to get to the point
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Speaker 1: where you're trusting him. And then also you're like, hey, look, wow,
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Speaker 1: he really does this nice and see if we can
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Speaker 1: incorporate that in to a game plan next week where
16:07
Speaker 1: we have a play specifically designed for him. So I
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Speaker 1: think it's a feeling out learning process getting James Robinson
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Speaker 1: more involved in a passing game. And and obviously he's
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Speaker 1: starting to take more time away from Chris Thompson now,
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Speaker 1: so now you you got to kind of create things
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Speaker 1: for James instead of Chris. And but you know, look,
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Speaker 1: I think they're doing a great job with with James Robinson.
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Speaker 1: And you know, he's a young player and and he's
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Speaker 1: been a marvelous player. I think he's the best player
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Speaker 1: that they have on offense. And and that's even considering
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Speaker 1: d J Chark. I mean, he's right up there with
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Speaker 1: DJ and maybe even past DJ a little bit. But
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Speaker 1: this past game probably not because g DJ was really good,
16:46
Speaker 1: but but JP uh, I think the tempo of the game,
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Speaker 1: when you start to play better and it's more competitive, Okay,
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Speaker 1: then we start getting more carries for James Robinson. But
16:57
Speaker 1: I mean, how are you gonna get James Robinson more
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Speaker 1: carries a ball game against Cincinnati when you were you're
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Speaker 1: down two scores for a good part of that second half. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it went away quickly, that lead in the second half,
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Speaker 1: and well they had the big run the opening drive,
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Speaker 1: it was called back on a hold and then they
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Speaker 1: were behind the chains and then behind by two scores
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Speaker 1: the following drive after that, so it went away quickly.
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Speaker 1: More on the Texans defense coming up in just a
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Speaker 1: little bit. But likes, we're gonna come back in a
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Speaker 1: moment and we're going to figure out the Jaguars defense,
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Speaker 1: or you're going to figure out the Jaguars defense. How
17:29
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Speaker 1: up in about ten minutes or so from Chicago ahead
21:46
Speaker 1: of Thursday Night football. Okay, Logs, let's get into this
21:50
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense, and it is a beat up group. Last week,
21:53
Speaker 1: Henderson left the game early, the cornerback with the shoulder issue.
21:57
Speaker 1: D J. Hayden is now an i R after is
22:00
Speaker 1: hamstring issue. But when Myles Jack left that game last week,
22:06
Speaker 1: right away, you saw a huge difference in what happened
22:12
Speaker 1: on that field in Cincinnati. In my opinion, yeah, no doubt.
22:16
Speaker 1: I think that the performance level of the defense dropped
22:21
Speaker 1: significantly without Miles Jack. I mean, that's that's the level
22:24
Speaker 1: that he's playing at right now. There were three plays
22:28
Speaker 1: I thought in that ball game that really showed how
22:31
Speaker 1: how skilled that that Miles really is. And there was
22:34
Speaker 1: one it was a speed reverse that he handed the
22:36
Speaker 1: ball off the receiver and and Miles runs him down
22:39
Speaker 1: when he gets a little or no game. I mean,
22:41
Speaker 1: there's not many linebackers in the league on a on
22:44
Speaker 1: a speed reverse that can run down the receiver. And
22:47
Speaker 1: he did another play where he he attacks up into
22:51
Speaker 1: the middle on a run that was an inside zone
22:53
Speaker 1: and he literally stones an offensive lineman and he grabs
22:57
Speaker 1: a running back and he just wrestles him down to
22:59
Speaker 1: the round. I mean it was just physical. So I
23:02
Speaker 1: mean you've got two opposite ends of the spectrum there
23:05
Speaker 1: where you got, you know, the speed that to play
23:06
Speaker 1: the position, and then the power and the aggressiveness to
23:10
Speaker 1: play the position. And then the big playability on the
23:14
Speaker 1: interception in the end zone where he had great coverage
23:17
Speaker 1: times up his hands, getting in the hands of the
23:19
Speaker 1: receiver and then comes down and pulls the ball away.
23:22
Speaker 1: I mean that that's that's big time. I mean, this
23:25
Speaker 1: is this is all pro level stuff by Miles Jack
23:29
Speaker 1: And when he did vacate the game, JP, you're dead
23:31
Speaker 1: on the money. The performance of the defense overall drop
23:35
Speaker 1: didn't have that kind of an impact with everybody else.
23:38
Speaker 1: But I mean when he leaves the game, I mean
23:39
Speaker 1: you notice, I mean it's almost like the energy just
23:41
Speaker 1: kinda goes goes down. But that's a lot of guys
23:44
Speaker 1: to lose in one game, you know, because you know
23:47
Speaker 1: c J and d J. You're talking too of your
23:49
Speaker 1: starting defensive backs, and you're already missing Gerald Wilson, who
23:53
Speaker 1: is expected maybe back this week. And then I think
23:57
Speaker 1: in the game you lost for a short period of
23:59
Speaker 1: time Josh Allen and he came back and I guess
24:02
Speaker 1: he appears to be fine. And then obviously losing Miles
24:07
Speaker 1: was a significant loss in that game. So, uh, this
24:11
Speaker 1: football team coming out of the the Cincinnati game, you're talking
24:13
Speaker 1: about five guys that didn't finish the game. Because on
24:16
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, you have Cam Robinson
24:19
Speaker 1: and Laviska Chanal. So what's the status of all these guys.
24:24
Speaker 1: I think that that's gonna be And obviously we're looking
24:26
Speaker 1: at the practice report and it looks like some of
24:28
Speaker 1: these guys will play. But the reality is JP is
24:31
Speaker 1: that Look, when you don't finish a game, as as
24:34
Speaker 1: as a pro football player, then you come back the
24:36
Speaker 1: next week. Just because you're playing doesn't mean you're gonna
24:39
Speaker 1: be very good because a lot of guys play through
24:42
Speaker 1: it and they can play through it and be at
24:43
Speaker 1: an effective level, but a lot of guys can't because
24:46
Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, you're just trying to be there
24:47
Speaker 1: for your teammates. But if you're hurting, you're hurting, you know.
24:50
Speaker 1: So it will be very interesting to watch even who's
24:54
Speaker 1: gonna be active number one. But then of the guys
24:57
Speaker 1: that are active, how effective can they be. We still
25:02
Speaker 1: haven't seen the official injury report come down today, but
25:05
Speaker 1: as of yesterday, as you would expect, a lot of
25:07
Speaker 1: those guys did not practice in the first day of
25:09
Speaker 1: the practice week. We usually get a better idea on
25:12
Speaker 1: Thursday of how things will go as the week moves ahead. Here.
25:15
Speaker 1: Todd wash today though, did say that Trey Herndon is
25:19
Speaker 1: the backup Nickel. He said this in his press conference,
25:22
Speaker 1: So Herndon sounds like he's moving inside. It could be
25:24
Speaker 1: Sydney Jones or Chris Claybrooks to play outside at corner,
25:28
Speaker 1: uh and two guys that as we saw Claybrooks jump
25:31
Speaker 1: in there last week. But Sydney Jones a lot of
25:33
Speaker 1: and a couple of guys that just don't have a
25:35
Speaker 1: lot of of time in this defense. No, neither one
25:40
Speaker 1: of them have a lot of time. And when you
25:43
Speaker 1: had Cdy Jos come in, I thought it was an
25:45
Speaker 1: oppressive play because when when he came in, he had
25:49
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback actually attacked him with the very first
25:52
Speaker 1: play he went on deep ball on that side of
25:54
Speaker 1: the field. I'm like, wow, and how a where is
25:57
Speaker 1: the young quarterback that he knows that he out a
26:00
Speaker 1: new defensive back in the ball game and he's gonna
26:03
Speaker 1: take a shot right at him. That impressed the heck
26:06
Speaker 1: out of me as far as the mindset of a
26:08
Speaker 1: young quarterback. But you know, there's a lot that we
26:11
Speaker 1: don't know about with Playbrooks and Sydney Jones. I mean
26:15
Speaker 1: we've seen little glimpse of glimpses of them here and there,
26:18
Speaker 1: but we haven't seen them to where they've had to
26:21
Speaker 1: play through an entire game. And look, the Texans have
26:25
Speaker 1: a Will Fuller who is pretty fast now and uh
26:29
Speaker 1: and if you sleep just for a second, or you
26:32
Speaker 1: you make one misstep in your coverage on him, he's gone.
26:37
Speaker 1: When I say he's gone, he's by you and uh
26:40
Speaker 1: from watching the film of their game last week, he
26:44
Speaker 1: got behind defensive backs on a regular basis, and uh,
26:48
Speaker 1: he's he's a he is a one of the best
26:50
Speaker 1: I think in the league right now at getting vertical
26:54
Speaker 1: and he is their leading receiver right now with the
26:56
Speaker 1: absence of DeAndre Hopkins. And so I think it's gonna
27:00
Speaker 1: be a great test for a very young secondary in
27:04
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to go against Will Fuller and the rest
27:08
Speaker 1: of the wide receiving corps for them, you know, Cooks
27:12
Speaker 1: and Cobb and all these guys that they kind of
27:15
Speaker 1: acquired after they traded Hopkins. I mean, maybe this was
27:19
Speaker 1: another reason why Bill O'Brien was gone, because they've gotten
27:22
Speaker 1: pretty much next to nothing production wise compared to what
27:25
Speaker 1: they would have gotten with DeAndre Hopkins. Blogs. Let's continue
27:30
Speaker 1: our discussion about DeShawn Watson. He leads the league this
27:34
Speaker 1: year and in times. He's been sacked sixteen times this year,
27:37
Speaker 1: but that's kind of his m oh throughout his career.
27:40
Speaker 1: He holds the ball, he runs with it. Um. I
27:43
Speaker 1: think a couple of years ago he had what sixty
27:45
Speaker 1: eight sacks or something and led the league. So, you know,
27:50
Speaker 1: and Todd Washingtonday talked about the importance of keeping him
27:53
Speaker 1: as a pocket pastor not letting him get outside, and
27:56
Speaker 1: then that then you have to cover for longer, and
27:59
Speaker 1: he can make plays either down the field, through the
28:01
Speaker 1: air or with his legs in the running game. But
28:04
Speaker 1: with the pass rush in the state that it's in
28:07
Speaker 1: these days, can they go do that? Can they contain
28:10
Speaker 1: him in that pocket? It's the big question mark, JP.
28:15
Speaker 1: You're talking about four sacks in four games for the Jaguars,
28:20
Speaker 1: legitimately one, I mean, I mean a couple of them.
28:24
Speaker 1: I mean the one that the two that Josh Allen have.
28:27
Speaker 1: I mean he should be very thankful for the ones
28:29
Speaker 1: that he have has. I mean, one of them was
28:32
Speaker 1: a bad decision by the quarterback. He should have thrown
28:34
Speaker 1: the ball away. And then the other one was essentially
28:37
Speaker 1: a bust of playing a scramble for zero yard. You know. So, uh,
28:43
Speaker 1: it's it's not been very good and and I don't
28:46
Speaker 1: expect it to change a whole lot. I think the
28:49
Speaker 1: Texans offensive line JP, even though the numbers as far
28:52
Speaker 1: as sacks on Deshaun Wahsington are pretty high, think it's
28:54
Speaker 1: tackles are pretty good and Obviously, they paid a lot
28:58
Speaker 1: of money for the left tackle. And when I say
29:01
Speaker 1: a lot of money, they paid him a lot of money.
29:02
Speaker 1: And they gave up a lot of draft capital for
29:04
Speaker 1: Larry Mtunsel, one of the reasons why I think that
29:06
Speaker 1: Bill Brian's gone. And on the other side, they have
29:10
Speaker 1: a a young man that they drafted, Tristan Worfs are
29:14
Speaker 1: not worse a uh what was his name? The right tackle?
29:17
Speaker 1: I got it here somewhere, Uh Titus Howard. Uh young
29:23
Speaker 1: player last year and and they actually looks pretty good
29:26
Speaker 1: to me watching him. He looks like he's improved. He's
29:28
Speaker 1: a big body guy, small school from college wise, you know.
29:33
Speaker 1: But Deshaun Watson holds the ball a lot. So the
29:35
Speaker 1: number of sacks I think that he can get can
29:38
Speaker 1: be very misleading as far as Okay, you sit there
29:41
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29:42
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has been sacked sixteen times. We should be
29:45
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29:47
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29:52
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29:54
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29:56
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29:59
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30:00
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30:03
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30:07
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30:11
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30:14
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30:17
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30:19
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30:21
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30:24
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30:27
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30:31
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30:33
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35:25
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35:28
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35:31
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36:03
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36:07
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36:11
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36:14
Speaker 1: Effort limited, A Quality limited, C J. Henderson limited today,
36:18
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36:23
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36:27
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36:31
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36:34
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36:37
Speaker 1: the Jags defense. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean he's
36:40
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36:43
Speaker 1: that really can affect the quarterback right now, and he
36:46
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36:48
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36:50
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36:54
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36:58
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36:59
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37:04
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37:05
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37:08
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37:12
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37:13
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37:16
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37:19
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37:21
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37:23
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37:27
Speaker 1: coming up. But Tony, Yeah, when those guys went down
37:31
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37:34
Speaker 1: Certainly when Jack went out of the ball game, things
37:37
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37:40
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37:43
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37:45
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37:48
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37:51
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37:53
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37:56
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37:59
Speaker 1: was Rugland and uh they need I mean, he's your
38:03
Speaker 1: best player right now. I would argue that he's the
38:06
Speaker 1: best player on this football team the way he's been
38:09
Speaker 1: playing and at such a high level. So you definitely
38:11
Speaker 1: want to get Miles back out there. But we saw him,
38:14
Speaker 1: you know, hobbling noticeably on the sidelines during that game,
38:17
Speaker 1: and it will be interesting to see. Um if he's
38:19
Speaker 1: able to play. I doubt he'll be, but a lot
38:22
Speaker 1: of guys aren't this time of year, or at any
38:25
Speaker 1: point after you have one game, So it's a wait
38:27
Speaker 1: and see situation with him. But the bottom line is
38:30
Speaker 1: they have to play better. They have to play better
38:32
Speaker 1: on on both sides of the ball, but I think
38:34
Speaker 1: especially on defense. If they want to have a chance
38:36
Speaker 1: to win football games. Tony. We heard from Chart there
38:40
Speaker 1: at the start of the segment about and and basically
38:44
Speaker 1: question was they kind of missed you last week, but
38:47
Speaker 1: you made your your impact this past week against Cincinnati.
38:50
Speaker 1: When you return to the lineup with the two touchdowns
38:53
Speaker 1: and nearly a hundred yards, it's obvious when he's in there.
38:57
Speaker 1: It gives Jay Gruden so many more options to spread
39:00
Speaker 1: things out or they've got to cover deep, so maybe
39:03
Speaker 1: they bring an extra guy out of the box for
39:05
Speaker 1: the run game. If they're close to the game, they
39:07
Speaker 1: can go to that run game. But you gotta have
39:09
Speaker 1: all your weapons on offense. Chart see what Nault's situation
39:13
Speaker 1: is this week when they have all those guys out there,
39:15
Speaker 1: then Jake Gruden has his full assortment, his full arsenal
39:18
Speaker 1: if you will. And what was Nault's status on the
39:21
Speaker 1: injury report, JP, I can't remember what it was next
39:23
Speaker 1: to his name. Let's see here Chault limited yesterday and
39:29
Speaker 1: today with a hamstring. But that's a good sign that
39:32
Speaker 1: he's at least out there trying to do something. Um,
39:35
Speaker 1: we'll get to you know where they are, whether they're probable,
39:37
Speaker 1: question going you know everything else tomorrow but yeah, I mean,
39:41
Speaker 1: I mean, here's here's breaking news for you. Um, it's
39:45
Speaker 1: better to have your really good players than not have them.
39:49
Speaker 1: He's your best receiver. You want them on the field
39:51
Speaker 1: and they need them. And again we talked about with
39:55
Speaker 1: the defense, and I mean the offense is playing better
39:58
Speaker 1: than the defense, but still your origin for air, it's
40:00
Speaker 1: very very small with this football team. I mean just
40:03
Speaker 1: think back to the game where you didn't have chart
40:06
Speaker 1: and we bemoaned the fact that there was a couple
40:09
Speaker 1: of big drops and that like somehow like two players
40:11
Speaker 1: changed the entire game early in that game. And when
40:14
Speaker 1: you're a good team and you're you know, an efficient team,
40:17
Speaker 1: you can overcome those And right now this team is
40:19
Speaker 1: not able to overcome those type of mistakes. And they
40:22
Speaker 1: really need to be playing on you know, at the
40:24
Speaker 1: highest level, hitting on all cylinders, uh for them to
40:27
Speaker 1: be effective. So I mean having Shark out there is critical.
40:31
Speaker 1: You need James Robinson, you need I think Cam Robinson
40:34
Speaker 1: is a big part of that, and it'll be interesting
40:35
Speaker 1: to see if he can play left tackle. They're a
40:37
Speaker 1: better team with him out there. And then obviously the
40:39
Speaker 1: play of Gardner Minshew, Jeff Lagman is apparently back with
40:46
Speaker 1: us now and on this well to be It's actually
40:53
Speaker 1: it's good to hear you guys, because before I was
40:55
Speaker 1: just scratchy. So I mean, you know, sometimes you guys
40:58
Speaker 1: are painful to listen to. But it was really painful
41:01
Speaker 1: there for a while. Wow. Thanks a lot, lugs. Appreciate that.
41:07
Speaker 1: I'm listening you guys on Monday night. And sometimes you
41:09
Speaker 1: guys you're painful, painful. You know, I agree that those
41:16
Speaker 1: two guys are painful. Yes, I agree. All right, So
41:23
Speaker 1: let's let's get the the left tackle play in this
41:27
Speaker 1: game coming up Sunday, Tony, how how good is Tounsil
41:31
Speaker 1: and Logs? How would you attack Tonsil? I mean you
41:36
Speaker 1: go first? How good is he? Yeah? I mean he's
41:39
Speaker 1: a good player. He's in the upper echelon of left
41:42
Speaker 1: tackles in the league. I don't think he's overly physical. Um,
41:45
Speaker 1: he's a good pass balker. He's a great, very good athlete.
41:49
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be in the right position. Um.
41:51
Speaker 1: You know, he's the highest paid left tackle. Do I
41:53
Speaker 1: think he's the best left tackle all around game? I
41:57
Speaker 1: would say no. Um, but you know he's a guy
42:01
Speaker 1: that you know, you look at the last couple years
42:04
Speaker 1: when we played him, he did a great job against Gockway.
42:07
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy you can count on as
42:09
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator to win one on one matchup. So
42:13
Speaker 1: he's the type of guy that you want um playing
42:15
Speaker 1: left tackle and he's a good player. He absolutely shut
42:20
Speaker 1: down in Gockway, uh the entire game. I mean Gockway.
42:25
Speaker 1: The only thing, the only the only sniff that in
42:28
Speaker 1: Gockway got of Deshaun Watson's deodor was when he would
42:32
Speaker 1: he would go up against Laramie Tounsil and then wait
42:35
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson to escate somewhere and then in Gockway
42:39
Speaker 1: would would pursue. And that's the only way that in
42:41
Speaker 1: Gockway got near HIMPS this past game against the Minnesota Vikings,
42:44
Speaker 1: by the way, and Tonsil is a is a great
42:47
Speaker 1: matchup for in Gockway. And the reason why Tony talked
42:51
Speaker 1: about that he's not real physical. I think the way
42:53
Speaker 1: that you have to pass rush Laramie Tounsil is you
42:57
Speaker 1: have to be physical, you have to power him, you
42:58
Speaker 1: have to bull rush him, and that's not his strong suit.
43:01
Speaker 1: He if he can sit back there and just be
43:03
Speaker 1: an athlete and catch you and not worry about your
43:07
Speaker 1: power and strength of driving him back into the lap
43:09
Speaker 1: of the quarterback. Then you know it's gonna be a
43:12
Speaker 1: tough day. And so he's a good football player. You know,
43:15
Speaker 1: through the Jaguars have anybody that can bring that level
43:17
Speaker 1: of power to him. I think that's the one part
43:21
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen and also Calavon Chezan's game that they
43:25
Speaker 1: need to ramp up. I think at times they're not.
43:28
Speaker 1: They're not being physical enough. When I say physical is
43:32
Speaker 1: pass rusher. You know, an Tony will tell you that
43:34
Speaker 1: one of the hardest guys in the world to block
43:37
Speaker 1: is a guy that's gonna bring power and he's got
43:39
Speaker 1: speed and he's got moved Guys that can be what
43:41
Speaker 1: I would term multiple because as an offensive tackle, they
43:45
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna do. And so I think
43:48
Speaker 1: that Josh and Kalman need to add that to the
43:51
Speaker 1: repertoire more consistently so that they can then have the
43:55
Speaker 1: other stuff be a little bit more successful with the
43:57
Speaker 1: speed and working the edges in the mood. Yeah, I
44:00
Speaker 1: mean to Jeff's point, he's exactly right. I mean I
44:03
Speaker 1: used to say, if if I didn't fear your power.
44:05
Speaker 1: If I didn't respect your power, you had zero chance
44:08
Speaker 1: of ever getting to the quarterback. There was no chance
44:11
Speaker 1: you were not going to beat me. And Jeff and
44:13
Speaker 1: I have had conversations and we joke around and I'm
44:15
Speaker 1: not and I love him go way, I'd love I
44:17
Speaker 1: wish you, you know, I wish it would have worked
44:19
Speaker 1: out here. But I told Jeff I I would have
44:21
Speaker 1: never I would not have been overly concerned with the
44:24
Speaker 1: Gockway as a pass rusher because he wouldn't have been
44:26
Speaker 1: able to power me. And uh Tunsil's a guy that
44:30
Speaker 1: is such a great athlete that if you don't bust
44:32
Speaker 1: them in the chops early, then you have no chance.
44:35
Speaker 1: Like you have to establish and put the some fear
44:39
Speaker 1: in him that you can put, you know, hit him
44:41
Speaker 1: in the mouth and push him back into the lap
44:44
Speaker 1: of the quarterback so that you at least he's thinking
44:47
Speaker 1: about it when he sets, and that he has a
44:50
Speaker 1: little bit of lean. He's gonna get his hands out there,
44:52
Speaker 1: because then as a rusher, you can chop the hands,
44:54
Speaker 1: you can get the edge, and you can set things up.
44:57
Speaker 1: But outside of you know, outside of the fear of power,
45:01
Speaker 1: A good offensive tackle you're not gonna threaten now an
45:03
Speaker 1: average or a bad offensive tackle you can beat all
45:06
Speaker 1: day with speed. Um, you know, speed is gonna you
45:09
Speaker 1: will kill those guys because they're not great athletes. You
45:11
Speaker 1: can get the edge. And I'll go back to, you know,
45:14
Speaker 1: playing a guy like Derrick Thomas, Hall of Famer, great player,
45:18
Speaker 1: fast as you can believe. And if you played him
45:20
Speaker 1: at home in casey with the sound, Um, it was
45:23
Speaker 1: really difficult. But because I was not afraid of his power,
45:26
Speaker 1: I could sit deep and wait for him and just
45:28
Speaker 1: catch them. And it was I'm not saying I'm not
45:31
Speaker 1: and it will never say it was easy because he
45:33
Speaker 1: was such a great player. But um, there were guys
45:36
Speaker 1: that were lesser known names. And Jeff you talked about
45:39
Speaker 1: one last week, I think, and Michael McCreary. Michael McCrery
45:43
Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens back in the day. You know,
45:45
Speaker 1: did was not the athlete, did not have the ability
45:47
Speaker 1: from a speed standpoint of it, Derrick Thomas, but he
45:49
Speaker 1: would threaten you with power enough that you had to
45:52
Speaker 1: respect it because he'd run you over if you didn't. Um,
45:55
Speaker 1: that made it very difficult to block. Yeah, and and
45:59
Speaker 1: and Tony is talking about JP for for a lot
46:01
Speaker 1: of people out there, they might have a hard time
46:03
Speaker 1: trying to understand what we're talking about, because you know,
46:05
Speaker 1: we're saying, oh, hit him in the mouth early as
46:08
Speaker 1: a as a pass rusher, and Tony alluded to a
46:10
Speaker 1: little bit of this as a pass rusher, when you
46:12
Speaker 1: show that you can be physical and you can power
46:15
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle, it's so funny. And that offensive lineman
46:19
Speaker 1: in defensive lineman two for that matter, everybody that plays football,
46:22
Speaker 1: there's this thing about you don't want to be overpower.
46:26
Speaker 1: And as an offensive lineman, sometimes you can get pushed
46:29
Speaker 1: back to the quarterback and it's okay because you're making
46:32
Speaker 1: it so much longer for the defensive end to even
46:35
Speaker 1: have an impact on the quarterback. But the mindset of
46:38
Speaker 1: football players are, I can't be pushed around. And so
46:43
Speaker 1: when an offensive lineman gets pushed around, their next reaction
46:47
Speaker 1: is when you're approaching them, they lean forward. Like Tony
46:51
Speaker 1: talked about, they sit down a little bit to get
46:54
Speaker 1: ready for power, and they show their hands a little
46:57
Speaker 1: bit sooner and in some cases show all the way
47:01
Speaker 1: because they're anticipating that power. Well, when they sit and
47:05
Speaker 1: they lean forward. Now all of a sudden, when them
47:08
Speaker 1: hands come out, you knock the hands and then you
47:10
Speaker 1: go around the guy or or you can you know,
47:13
Speaker 1: fake the power and then a little little chop swim.
47:15
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different things that get set
47:17
Speaker 1: up off of power. And you know, I was never
47:20
Speaker 1: a great pass rusher, but the one of the things
47:22
Speaker 1: that I always did, and from watching some of the
47:25
Speaker 1: great ones do it was that if you established power
47:28
Speaker 1: early in the ball game, a lot of things were
47:31
Speaker 1: able to follow suit. And uh and right now, I
47:34
Speaker 1: think the Jaguars, the edge pass rushers, I would like
47:37
Speaker 1: to see them try to establish a little bit more
47:40
Speaker 1: physical element early in the ball game and then let
47:43
Speaker 1: the other things kind of fall into plate. Yeah, I
47:46
Speaker 1: want to JP. Let me add on that. I'm gonna
47:48
Speaker 1: tell two stories that Jeff I appreciate. Is he's so right.
47:54
Speaker 1: It's about it's mentality as an offensive tackle. It's not
47:57
Speaker 1: just getting run over and getting get out of sack.
47:59
Speaker 1: It's the barrassment of getting pushed into the lap of
48:01
Speaker 1: the quarterback and that's in your mind. And two things
48:04
Speaker 1: of quick stories. I remember the first time we started practicing,
48:07
Speaker 1: and I was a rookie and Logs was a big
48:08
Speaker 1: free agent and we were no pad and he couldn't
48:13
Speaker 1: He couldn't have beat me and no pads if his
48:15
Speaker 1: life depended on it. I mean, I was like, man,
48:17
Speaker 1: this is a high price Freegan. I got it pretty good.
48:20
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget the first day we had the
48:22
Speaker 1: pads on and I'm out there, I'm feeling pretty good.
48:24
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've been blocking this guy the whole time
48:26
Speaker 1: with no pads on, and we're doing one on one
48:28
Speaker 1: pass rush, and he came off and busted me in
48:31
Speaker 1: the mouth and just drove me back into the lap
48:34
Speaker 1: of the quarterback and one on one pass rush, and
48:37
Speaker 1: I was like, what the heck was that? And the
48:40
Speaker 1: rest of the time he was more difficult to block
48:43
Speaker 1: in practice because now I respected this power and and
48:47
Speaker 1: it made it more difficult. And the same thing. I remember,
48:50
Speaker 1: I played against the late Chris Doleman, who's a Hall
48:52
Speaker 1: of Famer, and he powered me early and for a
48:55
Speaker 1: quarter of that football game, I was so worried about
48:58
Speaker 1: the power. He didn't get a sack, but I was
49:01
Speaker 1: all over the place and just like fighting for my
49:03
Speaker 1: life to keep him up the quarterback. And I finally
49:05
Speaker 1: told myself, I don't care if he runs me over.
49:07
Speaker 1: It does not matter to me. He can try to
49:09
Speaker 1: run me over all he wants, and from that point
49:12
Speaker 1: on I had no problem blocking him. And the message
49:15
Speaker 1: there is for young pass rushers is put the fear.
49:18
Speaker 1: Just let them know, let them feel your power, because
49:21
Speaker 1: it will change the rest of the game of how
49:23
Speaker 1: that tackle approaches approaches you as a as a rusher.
49:28
Speaker 1: Great stuff. Let's come back in a moment, guys and
49:31
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Speaker 1: hour in about seven minutes from now, JP Shadrick, Jeff Lagman,
53:21
Speaker 1: and Tony Basselli. Let's take a look around the league,
53:24
Speaker 1: and obviously the biggest story in the league this week
53:28
Speaker 1: is the Tennessee Titans situation with COVID nineteen more positives
53:33
Speaker 1: as the days go along here, so their building is
53:36
Speaker 1: not open. The game this week is in jeopardy. Could
53:40
Speaker 1: this game be moved as a question? Will there be
53:42
Speaker 1: a week eighteen? Could there be a forfeit if they
53:45
Speaker 1: determined they broke protocol. There's numerous stories now that the
53:49
Speaker 1: Titans not only had one practice off site when they
53:53
Speaker 1: weren't supposed to, but maybe numerous practices off site. And
53:57
Speaker 1: it's now a watch and wait and see what happens
54:01
Speaker 1: from Park Avenue in New York, Tony. Yeah, it's um.
54:07
Speaker 1: I mean I would be shocked if they played football
54:09
Speaker 1: this week. I mean, you have they are positives test today. Um.
54:12
Speaker 1: And so if you're not gonna open the facilities, you
54:14
Speaker 1: play Sunday. I mean how that it's almost two weeks
54:17
Speaker 1: you've been out of the building. So Um, the NFL
54:20
Speaker 1: is gonna have a scheduling issue and they're gonna to
54:21
Speaker 1: figure out what to do and where they put these games.
54:23
Speaker 1: I mean, they can fix the one in the bye
54:25
Speaker 1: week right now. I I think they're gonna have to
54:27
Speaker 1: extend the season. Um as we go on push back
54:31
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know, push back the uh you know,
54:34
Speaker 1: either pushing get rid of the Pro Bowl, and you
54:37
Speaker 1: know you had a week there, maybe push the Super
54:39
Speaker 1: Bowl back, but you're gonna see a change because or
54:42
Speaker 1: you're gonna condense the schedule, um, based on how many
54:46
Speaker 1: games you end up playing, because there's no way you're
54:48
Speaker 1: gonna get it through it all. And I think the
54:50
Speaker 1: Patriots similar a similar situation because you're having positive stuffs there.
54:54
Speaker 1: I don't think they're opened up for business yet. And
54:56
Speaker 1: I believe they do have a game this weekend, so
54:59
Speaker 1: a lot going on there. As far as the Titans
55:01
Speaker 1: in in breaking protocol, I think it's pretty clear they did. Um.
55:04
Speaker 1: There's a lot of video evidence out there that they
55:06
Speaker 1: were practicing. UM. How the NFL comes down, I don't
55:10
Speaker 1: think they're gonna come down as hard as the new
55:11
Speaker 1: regulations say, because those kind of came out after all
55:14
Speaker 1: this surface UM. But I wouldn't see be surprised if
55:17
Speaker 1: you see large finds maybe losing a traffick. Um. But
55:21
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll go the forfeiture route at this point.
55:27
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean you might, you might not
55:28
Speaker 1: have a choice about forfeiture. I mean not to me.
55:33
Speaker 1: I mean, this is only what four games in and
55:37
Speaker 1: the Patriots already have or excuse me, the Titans have
55:40
Speaker 1: a second game that's threatened going into Week five, you know, so, uh,
55:46
Speaker 1: you may not have a choice, you know. And an Tonia.
55:48
Speaker 1: First of all, the Pro Bowl. You can get rid
55:51
Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl altogether. Yeah, I mean, nobody's gonna
55:53
Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl. It's a it's a total
55:55
Speaker 1: waste anyway, you know, So get rid of the Pro
55:59
Speaker 1: Bowl because it doesn't matter. And uh, and take the
56:02
Speaker 1: time that you need if you can play every game
56:06
Speaker 1: that is in the league. I don't know if that's
56:08
Speaker 1: going to happen, but and I know there's a lot
56:10
Speaker 1: of things being talked about about expanding the season to
56:13
Speaker 1: eighteen weeks. Look here, here's the reality. If you need
56:16
Speaker 1: to expand it to twenty, then you go to twenty.
56:19
Speaker 1: I mean that that may be what is necessary, and uh,
56:23
Speaker 1: and it's asking a lot. But at the same token,
56:26
Speaker 1: you're trying to perform in some pretty tough circumstances this year.
56:31
Speaker 1: And I would expect that the Tennessee Titans. I think
56:34
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a pretty significant fine. I think it's
56:37
Speaker 1: gonna be draft picks. I think they're gonna try to
56:39
Speaker 1: find a way not to have a forfeiture. But boy,
56:42
Speaker 1: that that doesn't reflect very well. And Mike Rabel and
56:46
Speaker 1: what they're doing in Tennessee as far as violating all
56:49
Speaker 1: these protocols not very smart. Yeah, the other argument is that,
56:55
Speaker 1: you know, why should the rest of the league had
56:57
Speaker 1: to adjust when all those protocols are broken? If that
57:00
Speaker 1: are proven to be the case, why they are having
57:02
Speaker 1: all these positives? He always followed the money JP And
57:07
Speaker 1: if and if all of a sudden you have to
57:08
Speaker 1: have forfeiture of games, guess what, that's one less game
57:12
Speaker 1: on television. And so if you're uh, CBS or box
57:17
Speaker 1: or ESPN, and if you're getting one less game, well,
57:22
Speaker 1: how does that make you feel? Look, we're in this
57:26
Speaker 1: to make money. I mean we're we're supposed to have
57:29
Speaker 1: you know, X number of games, and if we don't
57:31
Speaker 1: have X number of games, guess what, you know, there's
57:33
Speaker 1: gonna be a percentage decrease in what we pay you
57:37
Speaker 1: because we have less products. So, I mean, the NFL
57:39
Speaker 1: will probably try to play every game that they can,
57:42
Speaker 1: might just have to end up, you know, stretching the
57:45
Speaker 1: season out a little bit longer. And if it takes
57:46
Speaker 1: twenty weeks. I mean, it takes twenty weeks, so be it. Well,
57:52
Speaker 1: I'll go back to even you know, you look at
57:54
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I'm actually shocked they played on Saturday Monday night,
57:58
Speaker 1: knowing that Cam it been around a number of players
58:01
Speaker 1: that I mean, they were aware enough to separate the
58:03
Speaker 1: people who have been close to them into a separate plane.
58:06
Speaker 1: And and now you have Stephan Gilmore coming back positive, um,
58:10
Speaker 1: and so I think there's real threat that they don't
58:13
Speaker 1: play this week as well. So you start getting these
58:14
Speaker 1: things piling up on you a little bit, Um, And
58:17
Speaker 1: I'm with Jeff, I think you're just gonna have to
58:19
Speaker 1: expand the season. You do whatever it takes. Um. Bill
58:22
Speaker 1: Belichick said it today. The player's safety comes first, making
58:25
Speaker 1: sure everyone's healthy. Obviously. I think that has to be
58:28
Speaker 1: the you know, your philosophy moving forward as the league,
58:31
Speaker 1: and I think that's what it will be. Um. I
58:33
Speaker 1: just don't see. I don't see a way you get
58:35
Speaker 1: all these games in under seventeen weeks. Alright, guys, quickly,
58:40
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, Tom Brady and the Bucks visit Satan,
58:44
Speaker 1: Nick Foles and the Bears. Who you got tonight, Tody,
58:49
Speaker 1: I got the I mean, the Bears can't score points,
58:53
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady just it's coming on five football games.
58:56
Speaker 1: That offense is getting going. Um, they're gonna be without
58:59
Speaker 1: Chris would win again, but they were with at him
59:02
Speaker 1: last week and scored all those points. The Bears are
59:04
Speaker 1: just awful. I mean just awful on offense. I mean
59:07
Speaker 1: what they did against the Colts. And I know the
59:09
Speaker 1: culture of the number one defense in the league, but
59:11
Speaker 1: my goodness, um Tampa is pretty good at defense as well.
59:14
Speaker 1: So I think the Buccaneers win this football game. You
59:18
Speaker 1: got lives quick, real quick. I'm taking the Bucks. And
59:23
Speaker 1: and if Foles was in relief as a backup quarterback,
59:27
Speaker 1: then I would have picked the Bears. But I mean
59:29
Speaker 1: that's what he is. He's a backup. I mean, who
59:32
Speaker 1: are we? Full wellogs. Thank you very much. We'll see
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Speaker 1: you in a second, Tony. We'll talk to you this weekend,
59:38
Speaker 1: all right, tell coach I said, hello, We'll do it.
59:41
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is out of here. The dug Brons show
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