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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Wenstrup, David Taylor, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 505-55KRC, the talk station. Happy Friday. Sugar, use a vacation. Woo-hoo,
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  Speaker 1: it is Friday for sure. Confirmation, thank you to Joe
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  Speaker 1: Strecker hitting the woo-hoo button. And happy Friday to everybody
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  Speaker 1: out there. Appreciate you tuning in to the 55KRC Morning
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  Speaker 1: Show and an invitation to stick around. Got a great
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  Speaker 1: show lined up. Boy, I love coming to the studio
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  Speaker 1: in the morning and seeing a lineup like I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at right now. 6.30, of course, every Friday, 6.30. We've
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  Speaker 1: got Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Today, a stolen wallet
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  Speaker 1: can cost you far more than the cash inside. Topic
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  Speaker 1: number two, if someone gets into your email, they own
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  Speaker 1: every account you have. Well, he'll explain that one. That
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  Speaker 1: sounds a little bit frightening. And finally, protecting America's critical infrastructure. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and apparently the world has gotten a memo on that.
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  Speaker 1: Got some details on that one to unfold here in
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  Speaker 1: a moment. Private citizen. He is Brad Winstrip, former Congressman
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  Speaker 1: Brad Winstrip. He'll be in studio for the Hour of
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  Speaker 1: Power at 7.05. We don't have enough to talk about
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  Speaker 1: with him, including more information about COVID-19, the COVID-19 jabs.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Fauci, are we going to be held accountable? Anyway, a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot with Dr. Brad Winstrip, still a physician. And
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  Speaker 1: private citizen, Congressman David Taylor. Had Warren Davidson on yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to find the podcast of that, go
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  Speaker 1: to 55KRC. iheart. com. Congressman David Taylor is going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about the work he's been doing in the district during
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  Speaker 1: the August recess. And meeting with the Claremont County Chamber
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  Speaker 1: of Commerce. We'll talk about what was discussed in that meeting.
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  Speaker 1: So that at 8.05, followed by Jack Windsor from the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio Press Network. Got some information about Ohio State Representative
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  Speaker 1: Ishmael Mohamed. Missing $ 90, 000. His missing $ 90, 000. And there's a Tiffin,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio progressive blog apparently posting bot posts. Bot posts, which
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  Speaker 1: suggests to me maybe artificial intelligence generated posts in response
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  Speaker 1: to commentary out there from perhaps conservatives.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we have Jack coming on at 830 to
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  Speaker 1: talk about that. But anyway, the media is using them
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  Speaker 1: and reposting them as fact. It's the death spiral that
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  Speaker 1: we talk about with artificial intelligence generated information, you know.
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  Speaker 1: You can manipulate AI to have it say what you want.
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  Speaker 1: It just takes a volume of information to pump out
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  Speaker 1: into the world. So artificial intelligence adopts it as true.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't understate the amount of foreign influence we
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  Speaker 1: have through these various social media outlets. Just really disturbing. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we have this big settlement with Meta and
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  Speaker 1: billions of dollars pumped out into the world to settle
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  Speaker 1: the thing and all the information about that by parents
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  Speaker 1: and what their children are having exposure to. They've got
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  Speaker 1: to put controls in place to prevent your children from
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  Speaker 1: getting on social media. What happened to the parents in
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  Speaker 1: that equation? Someone observed these same parents who gave their
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  Speaker 1: children a $ 1, 000 iPhone are demanding that companies like Meta
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  Speaker 1: protect their children. Stage one, don't give your children a
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  Speaker 1: smartphone if you don't have that problem. That's not practical
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  Speaker 1: in today's world, Thomas. Don't say something like that. There's
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  Speaker 1: an element of truth to it anyway. Anyway, bot post
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  Speaker 1: being reposted by media. You would like to think that
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  Speaker 1: media would be better at checking their own information before
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  Speaker 1: republishing it or publishing it in the first place. John
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  Speaker 1: Husted and Data Center is also at Jack Windsor coming
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  Speaker 1: up at 830. So there's your topics for the morning.
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  Speaker 2: 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
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  Speaker 1: Go with pound 550 on your AT & T phones. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: here it is. In the world of tech. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I saw the headline and my immediate reaction was like,
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  Speaker 1: you mean like the UN? Yeah, we'll get together and
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  Speaker 1: we'll rump over something. And while the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: world ignores us and goes on and does what it
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  Speaker 1: wants because, well, they have no control over what we
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  Speaker 1: do out in the real world. Open AI released a
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  Speaker 1: letter yesterday. It's kind of frightening stuff here. They say
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  Speaker 1: they warned within months, months, AI models could become powerful
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  Speaker 1: enough to allow bad actors to launch increasingly sophisticated cyber
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  Speaker 1: attacks on humans. Hospitals, water treatment plants, and other critical infrastructure.
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  Speaker 1: Think about anything hooked up to the internet. And if
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  Speaker 1: you deem it critical, there's a problem because it can
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  Speaker 1: be hacked into. And we're just, the artificial intelligence will create, well,
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  Speaker 1: churn out the hacking mechanism based on the way I
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  Speaker 1: view it.
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  Speaker 4: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: Artificial intelligence, they can write code. It can do all
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  Speaker 1: of these things. And of course, it can figure out
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  Speaker 1: how to work itself in through the back door of
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  Speaker 1: these critical infrastructures and exploit The Access. More than 100 companies,
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  Speaker 1: including banking companies, tech, cybersecurity, signed this letter, including all
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  Speaker 1: the big AI companies like Google, Microsoft, and others. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the one model that the system was hacked, the private
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  Speaker 1: company that was hacked into by OpenAI, when we talked
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  Speaker 1: about this, remember they set up parameters for OpenAI to
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  Speaker 1: solve a problem. And in solving the problem, OpenAI's AI
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  Speaker 1: system on its own, jumped the fence of the parameters
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  Speaker 1: that were put up by the researchers and went into
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  Speaker 1: this private company hugging face and hacked into it to
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  Speaker 1: figure out how to answer the problem. That's a boiled
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  Speaker 1: down explanation of what happened, but it's kind of frightening
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  Speaker 1: because AI almost became prescient. It knows what it needs
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  Speaker 1: to do. And to hell with these parameters. How do
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  Speaker 1: I knock down the parameters limiting me to hack into
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  Speaker 1: a hugging face and solve the problem that my lords
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  Speaker 1: and masters have asked me to solve? It did that.
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  Speaker 1: Hugging Face said in this release, today's AI advances are
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  Speaker 1: already giving defenders new ways to fix weaknesses that have
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  Speaker 1: accumulated for years. If we, the collective group here in
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  Speaker 1: the world dealing with AI, act decisively, we can use
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  Speaker 1: the defender's window to make our digital world much more secure.
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  Speaker 1: This is Dave Hatter's warning now. He's been making this
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  Speaker 1: warning for years. You need to get ahead of this.
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  Speaker 1: Cybersecurity should be placed foremost in the front of every
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  Speaker 1: development of software out there.
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Because the bad guys are out there. We just
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  Speaker 1: had 12 water companies hacked in in our country within
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. 12. OpenAI called on all
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  Speaker 1: organizations to make cybercrime defense an immediate leadership priority. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: they finally were listening to Dave Hatter. They said cybersecurity
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  Speaker 1: organizers need to lead the response to defend against sustained
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  Speaker 1: AI-enabled attacks, including testing defenses, continuously. against frontier cyber capabilities,
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  Speaker 1: strengthening existing tools with AI, and working with technology partners
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  Speaker 1: to close gaps. Now, isn't that a brilliant thing? If
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  Speaker 1: AI can figure out on its own how to hack
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  Speaker 1: into a third-party independent company like Hugging Face, don't you
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  Speaker 1: think it's prudent that you kind of unleash AI to
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  Speaker 1: do that intentionally? Figure out a way to hack into
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  Speaker 1: that system, and then learning how it was exploited, that system,
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  Speaker 1: and how they were able to hack into it, learn
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  Speaker 1: from AI, and plug the hole that allowed AI to
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  Speaker 1: hack into it in the first place. That's a nice
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  Speaker 1: use of it. Governments around the world also given a
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  Speaker 1: call to action in this letter. Give hospitals, water utilities,
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  Speaker 1: and local governments access to capable defensive AI. Authorized testing
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  Speaker 1: and hands-on support through trusted security providers and partners. impose
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  Speaker 1: costs on attackers, huh? Hold the attack attackers accountable. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, Dave points this out all the time too.
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  Speaker 1: Many times these hackers are in foreign lands or beyond
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  Speaker 1: the justice system here in the United States world. We're
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  Speaker 1: all connected. How do you hold them accountable? How do
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  Speaker 1: you impose costs on them? Well, that that's for us
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  Speaker 1: to all figure out going forward, right? Say operators should
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  Speaker 1: also build tools that track how AI agents are being used,
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  Speaker 1: test systems for vulnerabilities, fix problems responsibly, share useful security
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  Speaker 1: information with governments and other defenders. Yeah, share your research.
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  Speaker 1: Reminds me of the Cure Starts Now, getting all these
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  Speaker 1: independent cancer researchers who never, ever share their information because,
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  Speaker 1: of course, they're working their way to a patent and
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  Speaker 1: fat bank cash. Get them to sit down in a
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  Speaker 1: room and share their cancer-related experience and research, perhaps to
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  Speaker 1: the good of all mankind. I know that puts aside
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  Speaker 1: the capitalist model. Part of me wants to utter a
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  Speaker 1: phrase from Karl Marx when I say that, but the
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  Speaker 1: goal is laudable. All of our collective infrastructures, regardless of
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  Speaker 1: which country or political ideology you follow, are subject to
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  Speaker 1: being hacked, and maybe therefore it is important for all
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  Speaker 1: of us to figure out how to prevent it from
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  Speaker 1: happening in the first place.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Anthropic had previously accused a Chinese state-sponsored group last September
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  Speaker 1: of manipulating its Claude Code tool in an attempt to
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  Speaker 1: attack 30 global targets, allegedly breaking into and breaching several
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  Speaker 1: of these targets. According to the incident report from Anthropic
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  Speaker 1: at the time, this marks the first documented case of
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  Speaker 1: agentic AI successfully obtaining access to confirmed high-value targets for
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  Speaker 1: intelligence collection. Now, they didn't identify what high-value value targets meant,
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  Speaker 1: or specifically which targets were subject to the attack. But
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  Speaker 1: they did say major tech companies, financial institutions, chemical manufacturing companies,
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  Speaker 1: and governments, all among those targeted in these 30 global targets.
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  Speaker 1: And notice how I emphasize financial institutions. That almost makes
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  Speaker 1: me more worried than any other, except for the attacks
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  Speaker 1: on our electrical grid, which of course are probably deemed
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  Speaker 1: high value. Because if you can shut down the electrical grid,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about financial institutions being reached.
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  Speaker 1: You won't be able to reach them. Say goodbye to
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  Speaker 1: your cell phone and access to your banking information. Hell,
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  Speaker 1: if your bank is subject to an attack, financial institutions,
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  Speaker 1: these hackers could wipe out your entire account.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How would you go about doing that? And think of this.
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  Speaker 1: I know we have federal deposit insurance and FDIC will
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  Speaker 1: be there to save you in the event this might happen.
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  Speaker 1: On a grand scale, think about multiple major banks being
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  Speaker 1: attacked in a cyber hack. And think about the accounts
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  Speaker 1: being wiped out for whatever reason. They want to steal
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  Speaker 1: the money, pad their own bank accounts, maybe. They wanted
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  Speaker 1: to disrupt the United States of America and send it
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  Speaker 1: into chaos. I can see that as a motivating factor.
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  Speaker 1: But just the practical implications. I'm insured. The federal government's
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  Speaker 1: insured my account. I don't really have anything to worry about.
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  Speaker 1: You and how many other millions of people who might
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  Speaker 1: have their accounts evaporate in a moment's time through a
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  Speaker 1: cyber attack. Millions of bankers potentially turning to the federal
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  Speaker 1: government and asking to be reimbursed under the insurance program.
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  Speaker 1: We're $ 40 trillion in the hole. How many additional trillion
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  Speaker 1: dollars would have to be, or millions and billions, who knows?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea what that amount might be, but
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  Speaker 1: how many additional dollars might have to be printed in
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  Speaker 1: order to cover the financial loss in a massive cyber
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  Speaker 1: attack on the banking institutions? Yeah. Complicated, maybe? Just a skosh. Frightening? Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: So let's hope they all heed the warning, get together,
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  Speaker 1: stop this from possibly happening. I'm a little skeptical that
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  Speaker 1: that might happen. 517 right now, 55K or CD Talk Station.
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  Speaker 1: Stick around. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. Pound 550 on AT & T phones.
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  Speaker 1: talk about coming up. Don't go away.
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  Speaker 7: Morning, Don.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, Don.
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  Speaker 2: 513-749-5500.
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  Speaker 1: 800-823-TALK. 9550 on AT & T phones. 55KRC. iheart. com. Podcast information
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  Speaker 1: and books. Lemmy? Yeah, I had that great book on
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Ferguson with his book, Your Data Will Be Used
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  Speaker 1: Against You. Perfect segue because we're coming up with Tech
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  Speaker 1: Friday with Dave Hatter. Congressman Warren Davidson on the program
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  Speaker 1: yesterday as well. 55KRC. iheart. com. Let's go to the phone and
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  Speaker 1: see what Tim's got this morning. Tim, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday to you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, happy Friday to you. And I'm sitting here talking
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  Speaker 3: on a little flip phone at a widescreen TV.
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  Speaker 1: Keep it. Don't let go. Can you change the battery
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  Speaker 1: in it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes I got to take the battery out to reboot it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, at least you can take the battery out, man.
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  Speaker 1: I was loathe to get my last cell phone. I
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  Speaker 1: kept it for like six years, but it had a
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  Speaker 1: replaceable battery, which I had to replace a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: Now I've got one with a sealed battery, which means
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  Speaker 1: when the battery goes belly up, which they all do,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to replace the damn phone. I
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  Speaker 1: hate that. Hate it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, people say, you got a flip phone? I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with that. And you people go to restaurants,
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  Speaker 3: you get on your dad's phone.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you sit and talk while you're eating and
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  Speaker 3: what went on during the day, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. And my wife is listening, as she typically
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  Speaker 1: does in the morning. Tim, good morning, Paulette, because that
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  Speaker 1: is one of her absolute favorite pet peeves. She hates
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  Speaker 1: when people pull their cell phones out going out to
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  Speaker 1: dinner at a restaurant.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And also, you know, they got all these TVs and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, these sports bars and stuff, you know, okay,
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  Speaker 3: go eat dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: But now I want to get to this thing. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's talking about the chickens and the global
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  Speaker 3: warming gas, the chicken.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. The other day, I still can't believe they
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  Speaker 1: did a study on chicken carbon dioxide, whatever. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Now I have not heard anything about people going
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  Speaker 3: to Mars here lately. I mean, you know, uh, Have
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  Speaker 3: they stopped, you know, getting to Mars? You know, I
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  Speaker 3: wonder if there's dinosaur bones on Mars.
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  Speaker 1: You think? No, but okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm just thinking. But, you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: if we put the streetcar up there, you think it'd
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  Speaker 3: run on moon dust?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is definitely. And there'd be more riders there
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  Speaker 1: than here in the United States with streetcars.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, maybe dinosaur bones.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think, well, if there's dinosaur bones up there, the
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  Speaker 3: aliens dropped them off.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. You finished, Tim? I appreciate the call. That's a
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  Speaker 1: decent Friday call anyway. It's a lighter feeling on a
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  Speaker 1: Friday here in the morning show. All right. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: talked yesterday about the meta settlement. Where's the money going? $ 17,
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  Speaker 1: $ 18 billion. We're wrong. We're sorry. We're settling with 47
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  Speaker 1: states and we're going to give them money. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of comments yesterday about, you know, the government's going
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  Speaker 1: to get the money, but the children who are the
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  Speaker 1: victims of this harm, that's what brought the court action, right?
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  Speaker 1: Children have been harmed by this, well, intentional, I guess
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  Speaker 1: intentionally addicting the children to social media. Lots of different
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  Speaker 1: reasons and elements. Anyway, this settlement, right? 47 states that
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  Speaker 1: did settle don't have specific plans for the money that
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be getting. Millions of dollars, hundreds of
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  Speaker 1: millions of dollars. In the case of California, I guess
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  Speaker 1: right now it looks like they're probably going to get
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  Speaker 1: $ 2. 1 billion. The accused Meta of knowingly pushing addictive and
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  Speaker 1: harmful content on kids, hiding that addictive reality in the world.
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  Speaker 1: This is much like the tobacco litigation. Tobacco companies apparently
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  Speaker 1: for years knew tobacco was a real problem, carcinogenic, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: but they didn't tell anybody. Kept insisting that their products
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  Speaker 1: were harmless. This is kind of the same theory, so
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  Speaker 1: Meta settles. Over, my friends, in the Commonwealth of Kentucky,
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  Speaker 1: apparently they're going to set up, one lawmaker at least
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  Speaker 1: suggested setting up a commission to decide how to spend
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  Speaker 1: the $ 358 million that Kentucky's going to get. Maryland's scheduled
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  Speaker 1: to get $ 327 million. They've already said that the money
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  Speaker 1: they get from the settlement, they're going to use, quote,
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  Speaker 1: for any lawful public purchase as set forth in the
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  Speaker 1: settlement agreement. California didn't respond to requests for details about
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  Speaker 1: how the money's going to be spent. But according to
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  Speaker 1: California's Attorney General Rob Bonta, how a significant portion of
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  Speaker 1: the payment received by California will be spent will ultimately
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  Speaker 1: be decided by the legislature and governor. But in the
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  Speaker 1: proposed settlement, it's earmarked for the purposes related to prevention
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  Speaker 1: or remediation of mental health or other harms to young
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  Speaker 1: Californians associated with social media use. Well, at least they
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  Speaker 1: showed it's in the settlement agreement that the money needs
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  Speaker 1: to be directed there. And the court documents apparently suggest
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  Speaker 1: ways it can be spent, crisis intervention, after-school programs, public
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  Speaker 1: health advertising, funding outdoor activities, youth mental health programs, training
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  Speaker 1: medical providers on the harms of social media. Additional litigation
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  Speaker 1: apparently has also been earmarked or one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that the money can be spent for. And you know
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  Speaker 1: what I read in all that? Brand new programs. Not
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  Speaker 1: that it's appropriate for them to go after a private company,
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  Speaker 1: accuse it of wrongdoing, and take settlement dollars and, well,
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  Speaker 1: pay off debt or other programs they already have in place.
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  Speaker 1: But you see, once they have this finite amount of money,
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  Speaker 1: see it coming. Oh, we got $ 350 million from Meta. Here,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to start a public health advertising after-school program
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  Speaker 1: and mental health programs. And then? After the money's gone,
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  Speaker 1: guess what's going to need to be funded into the future? Right,
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  Speaker 1: the new programs that they started with the temporary finite
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  Speaker 1: amount of money. Welcome to how we get with a
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  Speaker 1: bloated government $ 40 trillion in debt. And yes, that argument
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  Speaker 1: does apply on a state level too. 527-55-KRC-D Talk Station,
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  Speaker 1: 5037 on a Friday. Over to the phones. I know
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  Speaker 1: Tom's on vacation. Bye, New Hampshire. Gary's on the line.
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  Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Gary, welcome back to the morning show. It's
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: good to hear from you.
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  Speaker 7: Happy Friday. I was downloading the new user agreement on
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: my TV. Hold on. There, got it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: You going to read it?
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: Say something about your first born newborn child. I don't know.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: It's a high price to pay. Go ahead.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: Oh, I've got to have my TV. I know.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: That's why you say yes. Do you agree to the above? 14-page, single-space,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: 10-point-type document. Yeah, whatever. I've got to watch TV.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: Let me tell you. The $ 17 billion settlement. I can
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: see everybody and their brother getting out the NGO pen
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: and pencil and all.
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: I'd like to know the forest of paper that are
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: going to be wasted on the $ 17 billion. And, you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: every single bill and every single legislation that the state
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: gets is going to be passed down to the cities
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: and municipal counties like Cincinnati. And, you know, they're going
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: to go give it right to their NGOs so they
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: could win. I mean, pass it out to the poor
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: people that have been addicted to social media.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Well, you are definitely right about NGOs being established to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: accomplish all of these quote-unquote laudable goals.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Then the money will run out, and then what do
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: they do, right? They come back to the cookie jar,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: want more money. You can't defund our organization. We're doing
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: so much good in the community, and they won't have
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: any metrics to document all the great work they allegedly
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: do in the first place. That's a problem we've got
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati right now before all the new meta-related programs
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: go into effect.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: Hey, speaking of lawful under the law, the Nick Shirley
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: Act out in California has been passed. That's a law
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: that they passed for the people who were reporting on
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: the leering centers. Anybody who's reporting fraud in the NGO
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: system could be prosecuted for somebody else's liability for damage.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I'm going to say I'm no
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: lawyer and I don't play one on radio, but I
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: guess I am. I think that's going to run into
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: a bit of a First Amendment challenge. So wait for it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Keep your popcorn out. I think that probably will be
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: even in California subject to an immediate injunction as a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: massive intrusion. So just wait for it. I think it's inevitable.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Gary, I appreciate your call, man. I hope
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you have a wonderful weekend and hope things all are
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: well in New Hampshire. All right, this can kind of
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: bother me, local stories. And Christopher, I'm going to get
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: to your story separately. Good morning, Christopher Smithman, who chimed
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: in about one of the local stories. First, though, let's
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: start in Loveland.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: We got a shooting in Loveland? Anyway, two males suffering
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: minor injuries happened last night. One third male taken in
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: for questioning. Warren County Sheriff's Office investigating whether the shooting
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: was accidental or unclear. It was unclear whether charges will
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: be filed, at least as of the reporting last night.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: 8.30 is when the call came in about a shooting
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: near the intersection of Sycamore Road and Birch Drive. Two
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: victims were in a car, according to WCPO, but deputies
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: were unclear whether the vehicle was in motion. All right.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: One victim treated the scene and left on his own,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the other taking to local hospitals as a precaution. A
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: suspect apparently gave himself up to the authorities. More details
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to follow, I presume. And again, good morning, Christopher. We
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: have two Cincinnati police officers were injured after a chase
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: with homicide suspects yesterday afternoon. FOP President Ken Coburn speaking
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: with Fox 19, saying there were three separate crashes during
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: this chase. That, according to Brad Underwood, the spokesperson. First
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: crash happened downtown between the suspect's car and another vehicle.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: In the second incident in Queensgate, two police cruisers crashed
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: during the chase at Guest Street and Evans Street. Three
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: other vehicles also damaged during that chase. A third crash
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: involved the suspect's car in another vehicle. Three people taken
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries on that one. Suspects
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: crashed into another vehicle on State Street near Harrison. Officers
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: involved had minor injuries. One went to the hospital, according
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to Ken Kober, who also confirmed the homicide suspects in
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the case are in custody. Didn't say how many or
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: what crime they were accused of. Where are we on
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the over and under Bobby called yesterday? That's six and
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a half. We've got a couple more days ahead of us.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Bobby called it over. He may be on to something. 535.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Stack is stupid. 5KRC, the talk station.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Can you play John the Fisherman?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: 540 on a Friday. Of course, the answer is yes.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I know one person's excited about that every week. Jeffrey,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: good morning. He is listening from Cleveland on his iHeartMedia app,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: which he downloaded at 55KRC. iHeart. com. Like New Hampshire Gary, listening
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: from abroad.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Do a stack of stupid here in front of me.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: So that calls. We're going to dive on into this.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Let's go to West Virginia. Law enforcement said a 20-year-old,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: a guy, going by the name online, Mr. Child Porn.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: What do you think this story is going to reveal? Mr.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Child Porn accused of possessing material depicting children engaging in
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: sexual activity, according to law enforcement. West Virginia State Police
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: said Garrett Michael Highlander of Morgantown arrested. after allegedly using
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the Discord platform to share child porn images. He's being
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: held on a $ 100, 000 bond. Tell me what you think
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: is going on with him in jail on a $ 100, 000
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: bond with child porn. He's 20 years old. Troopers served
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a warrant in his home once they received numerous tips
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. regarding
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a man bragging about having numerous images of child sexual
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: abuse material and going under the online name Mr. Child Porn.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: He allegedly posted about the material using online names Mr.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Toxics and, again, Mr. Child Porn. West Virginia News cited
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a criminal complaint which said the suspect allegedly claimed to
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: have the material in conversations online and other Discord users
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: complained that he was sending it to them. Suspects said
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: he watched the recording of a stream video showing a
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: man who allegedly traveled to New York and recorded himself
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: having sex with a minor. Investigators reportedly found more than 50,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: but fewer than 300 images and videos on his phone.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Charged under a felony to knowingly possess, distribute, display, electronically
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: access with intent to view or transport visual portrayals of
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct. What are your children
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: doing online? I bet they're communicating with a 20-year-old pervert
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: like Mr. Childborn. Is that sufficient concern for you as
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: a parent who might maybe want to get involved in
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: what your children are interacting with online? Just asking. It
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: is Tech Friday. Body camera footage captured the moment a
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: naked guy was shooting a flamethrower at police while they
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: tried to serve an eviction notice on him in an
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma apartment. Oklahoma Sheriff's Department served the eviction order about
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: noontime August 11th The video shows three officers gathered outside
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the apartment before kicking down a door blocked by a
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: large object while reportedly ordering the person inside to open
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the door. Officers then cautiously made their way through the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: apartment using flashlights because it was dark. After entering a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: darkened room, flashlights showed naked guys sitting in a chair
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: holding a device. I was waiting for that, Joe. That's
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: my pause. And the officers repeatedly told him to put
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: down the object. Seconds later, the suspect is seen igniting
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a makeshift flamethrower using aerosol spray and as a burst
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: of flames explode toward the officers.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Dude, what the hell?
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Police evacuated the entire building so a bomb squad could
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: disable and remove the device. Suspect detained, initially taken to
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the Veterans Affairs Hospital for medical stress before being taken
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: to a mental facility. Now facing several charges including assault, obstruction,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and use of explosives.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Huh.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was WD-40 and a Bic lighter. I figured
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: out how that works when I was a young man. Anyhow.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Police in Tulsa, Oklahoma, asking for public health, looking for
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: someone they've dubbed a serial defecator. That's in quotes. Described
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: as mostly naked man terrorizing local police and is on
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the loose despite the Tulsa Police Department's attempt to capture him.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Business owner and shopping center reported the man wearing a thong,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a cut open mask, and a shower cap. Well, defecated
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: in a dog waste bag and then smeared it on
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the walls and doors of the business. Whoa, that's a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: lot of feces. Police showed up at 4.30 in the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: morning Wednesday. They weren't able to find the serial defecator.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: They did, however, get a good look at what he did.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks to security camera footage, of course, capturing the business owner. Well,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: what he saw anyway. Police say the partially masked man
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: exposed himself before dropping another dump into the doggy bag.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Why are you doing that? I don't think we'll ever
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: find out. Tulsa Police Department wrote in a Facebook post,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Officers have responded to the area on multiple occasions, but
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: have yet to track them down. Please, if you know
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: where we can find them, we'd love to relieve these
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: business owners.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Geez.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: De-evolutionist society on that one. 546-55-KRC-TALK-STATION. More stupid coming up.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: 5.51 at the 55KRCD talk station. Friday. Tech Friday with
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. Love that segment. Love hearing from you. If
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you care to call, feel free to do so. Without
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: further ado, though, it's Friday. And look, more naked people
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in the stack. It's stupid. Shocking. Literally no one.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: As is tradition.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Houston. Northeast Houston father said he was stunned.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: He checked his ring camera and saw a DoorDash driver
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: who just delivered his food standing outside his home. What
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: day is it?
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Completely naked. Why are you doing that? Keontae Matlock said
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the incident happened at his home in Houston. Said he
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: was inside playing a video game while his daughter was
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: also home when she noticed a notification come through on
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: his phone. Matlock checked the notification, realized the DoorDash order
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: was on his porch, looked at his ring camera, and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: said he saw the DoorDasher, who had literally just dropped
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the food, was naked.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: What?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Matlock described himself as in a state of disbelief. He
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: did not keep the food from this delivery. He said
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: he uses it all the time. But you know what? No,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: not this time. Probably a good idea. He said DoorDash
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: later refunded him for the order. Spokesperson from DoorDash had
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: this to say. What this customer experience was abhorrent. And
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: we reached out directly to offer our support. Man's behavior
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: was vulgar, completely unacceptable. And as soon as we were
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: made aware of it, our team permanently removed their access
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: to our platform. We will not tolerate sexual harassment, misconduct
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of any kind. We stand ready to assist law enforcement
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: with any investigation. No exclamation point on DoorDash's statement. DoorDash
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: encourages customers who experience concerning or inappropriate behavior during a
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: delivery to report it immediately through the app. Half naked?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: What's this guy doing in the stack of stupid, Joe?
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Half naked guys don't make the grade. 29-year-old local man
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: in Porter, a place called Porter, found wandering naked from
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the waist down near the downtown police station. Why are
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you doing that? I don't know. Porter police said they
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: first confronted Austin White, is his name, 20 minutes after
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: 4 o'clock in the morning on a Sunday. He told them, quote,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is as bad as... as it looks,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I guess. Close quote. Asked about exposing himself in the
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: downtown area, White said, quote, I didn't really think about
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the police station better than some grandma's house, I guess. Arrested,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: charged with felony count of possessing cocaine is the answer, Joe.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Misdemeanor counts of public nudity and public intoxication. Officer reportedly
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: driving to the downtown department around 4.20 in the morning
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: again Sunday. Man on foot spotted dodging behind a dumpster
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the man ultimately identified as this white guy located on
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the stairs leading to apartments it was at that point
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: the officer noticed white was in fact naked from the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: waist down police say white appeared intoxicated admitted to having
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: been drinking alcohol and quote doing stupid things and that
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: he was trying to be discreet he said he'd been
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: roaming around since the bar closed and admitted that he
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: had done this type of behavior prior but just never
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: got caught Viral trend, maybe? Go to a place called
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Cole Township where a man's been accused of slapping a
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: police officer in the face and repeatedly fleeing from the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: officers while they attempted to take him into custody. Happened
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: last Sunday. John Fox charged with aggravated assault, simple assault,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: resisting arrest, and detention on foot, disorderly conduct, evading arrest
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: or detention.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Cole Township patrolman Nathan Faust writing the criminal complaint. Said
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: officers got called to West Pine Street about 11 o'clock
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: in the morning for reports of a man standing in
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the roadway and acting out. Officers found Fox shirtless at
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: his residence before he went inside. Fox later appeared in
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the front window where Faust asked him to come outside,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: clean up items scattered across the sidewalk. He then allegedly
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: began climbing out of the window and stood in a
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: planter box above the officer.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: What?
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Then.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: And at that point, that's when Fox reached out and
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: slapped the officer in the face with an open hand.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: When Fox attempted to grab his hand, Fox pulled away
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and retreated into the residence, prompting the officer to climb
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: through the window after him, injuring his left leg while
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: entering the home. The Fox guy allegedly moved to the residence,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: repeatedly ignoring commands to surrender as the officer pursued him.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: And at one point, the officer encountered this naked guy
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: behind the door. Fox then closed that door and continued
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to ignore commands. All right, officers eventually confronted him inside
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the residence. He complied ultimately with commands to get on
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the ground, then taken into custody. Continued resisting, though, as
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: officers escorted him from the residence, placed him in the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: patrol car. Once at the police department, he again refused
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: to cooperate, kicking over a row of fire extinguishers before
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: officers placed him in a cell. Arraigned before the magistrate
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and committed to jail in lieu of $ 25, 000 bond. No
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: answer to the question, Joe. More to talk about before
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: we get to Dave Adder. I hope you can stick
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: around for Dave Adder. It's always a great segment. That'll
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: come up at 6.30. I'll be right back after the news.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Another Master Class Update is coming.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: 606-55-KRC, the talk station. Brian Thomas here, right here. Always
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: happy on a Friday, and mainly because, not mainly, love Fridays, period.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: And the story coming the weekend. Hope you have good
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: plans for the weekend. But Tech Friday with Dave Hatter
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: coming up as it is the case every Friday. Coming
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: up at 6.30, stolen wallet can cost you far more
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: than the cash inside your wallet, says Tech Friday's Dave Hatter.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Topic number two, if someone gets a hold of your email,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: they own every account you have. That scares the hell
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: out of me. They get into your email, you're screwed,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I guess. Well, Dave will talk all about that coming up. Finally,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: protecting America's critical infrastructure. All important news, most notably in
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the wake of that letter that came out yesterday from
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: more than 100, AI companies talking about our desperate need
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: to deal with security. We all need to get on
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: board with that. AI is dangerous stuff. Anyway, Private Citizen
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Brad Winstrup coming up at 7.05. Got a full hour
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: with Brad in studio. Dr. Winstrup has got a lot
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of topics to go over with us this morning. Congressman
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: David Saylor returns to the program at 8.05 to talk
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: about the work he's been doing during the August recess
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: as well as his meeting with the Claremont County Chamber.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Then at 8.30, Jack Windsor from theohiopressnetwork.com. Representative Ishmael Mohammed's
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: missing $ 90, 000. We'll also talk about Tiffin, Ohio, progressive blog
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: and bot posts that have been used by the mainstream
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: media as a point of fact. Finally, John Husted and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the data centers. Tech issues obviously dominating the news. Most recently,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I had a local story here, but since we're moving
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: on to Tech Friday with Dave Hatter, flock cameras, Dave
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Hatter hates them. And they have no place in his administration.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: But also Erlanger, Kentucky.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Flock safety cameras are no longer operable in Erlanger. They
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: decided not to renew the contract. They had a discussion
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: yesterday to let the community know about why it decided
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: not to renew the contract. Erlanger Police Chief Mike Lemming.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Since the work of our detectives and our officers getting
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: out there to solve these cases, and again, we're doing
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: it before Flock and we'll continue to do it afterwards.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: So the overwhelming decision from my standpoint was knowing how
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: talented our officers are able to solve cases without that
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: piece of technology. Apparently not very many cameras in Erlanger, five.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Five operational flock cameras have been there for the last
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: couple of years, and as of yesterday evening, all of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: them have become inactive. Now, the chief pointed out if
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: an outcry of support for the technology were to come
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: from the community, said the community, the department of the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: city would be willing to reopen the debate. It's exactly
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: what he said. We'll review that if there's an overwhelming
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: cry for flock cameras to come back. He said, but
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: right now I believe that the overwhelming belief of the
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: public is that they don't want that piece of technology.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: So the ever-growing ranks of communities getting rid of flock.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I'm glad he's so proud of his police officers. Of course,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: we lived in a world without flock cameras for so long.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we can manage without them. And in other
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: tech news, I'm really pleased to read about this one.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: We're all concerned about the integrity of the elections. Talked
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: about that yesterday with Congressman Warren Davidson. Very, very, very
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: disappointed they couldn't get the SAVE Act passed in spite
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: of the fact that it is wildly popular. You know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: this enjoys bipartisan support. You think they can get their
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: hands around something, it will be that. Ensuring the integrity
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: of the election. Federal elections require citizenship. What's the big
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: deal about requiring someone to confirm that they're an actual
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: citizen of the United States of America?
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: Nothing.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Nothing. Well, since we can't wait around for the SAVE
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Act to get passed, we do have a, well, Department
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of Homeland Security announcement. Ahead of the 2026 midterms, they
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: are requiring states, states, there we go, the dangling carrot
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: of financial incentive. If you're looking for Homeland Security grant
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: programs awards, you must conduct random post-election manual counts of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: paper ballots. providing a physical check against results produced by
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: electronic voting systems. You want the money? You got to
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: do it. Reminds me of Ohio when they wanted to
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: keep the drinking age, it was either 18 or 19
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: for beer, and the federal government said, you want highway funds?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Raise your drinking age to 21. You don't have to
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: take the money. Here we go. August 24th letter to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the White House Transparency Task Force, Homeland Security Secretary Mark Mullin,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: warned that voting machines containing components manufactured by foreign adversaries,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: think China, right, create, in his own words, significant security risks.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: He wrote specifically, quote, there is no question that the
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: election security is national security. Under the new grant, required
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: states must demonstrate that they conducted random post-election manual counts
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of paper ballots before receiving the full awards. So if
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you want your federal dollar grant, you must trust and verify.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Remember trust but verify? Ronald Reagan. As is reported, the
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: policy does not require officials to hand count every ballot.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: But earlier... DHS election security guidelines, they've spelled this out.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Grant recipients have to manually audit at least 5% of
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the ballots cast. Reconcile the number with participating voters with
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the number of ballots and develop plans to transition away
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: from electronic systems that use barcodes or QR codes to
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: tabulate votes. Major red flags floating around here, and Maureen's
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: out there listening right now. It says right here, again,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: he wrote this, Mullen. There's no question that election security
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: is national security. And swirling rumors out there that somehow,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: in some way, Donald Trump's going to declare a national emergency,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that our election system is so tainted with potential holes
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: with Chinese hackers and infrastructure that we have to postpone
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the election. I cannot abide by that. The predicate may
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: be true, and this is why Mullen came out with this.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: We need to get rid of compromised components. And that's
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: what he was warning about, compromised components that could potentially
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: provide hackers with an entry point before voting machines are
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: even assembled. Chinese technology put into the ultimately assembled device. Instead,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a malicious actor could theoretically exploit the same compromised component
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: across multiple machines or jurisdiction. Hmm, Internet of Things stuff.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter never mentions that, does he? Lutter did not
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: announce an immediate ban on all Chinese-made components. Gateway reporting,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: in fact, Mullen acknowledged that American voting system manufacturers currently
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: depend on foreign suppliers because certain hardware reportedly cannot be
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: sourced domestically. We don't make it here. Who in the
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: world is making it? I guess the default answer is China.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And you're talking about our election integrity. Maybe not going
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: electronic voting and just going with standard plain old paper ballots.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: That would avoid the problem completely, wouldn't it? That seems
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to be the direction that the mullin is pushing the
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: United States of America. Move away from these electronic systems.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: They cannot be guaranteed in terms of security. Get the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: damn paper ballots back out. If electronic systems produce an
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: incorrect result upon this review... Regardless of whether it's because
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: of programming errors, defective equipment, foreign interference, or deliberate manipulation,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: officials need a physical ballot that can be examined by
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: human beings. Good. Now, if states refuse to implement these reforms,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: they're going to lose a portion of the more than
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: $ 1 billion in federal security grants. And actually, I'm surprised
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: it's quote-unquote only a billion, $ 1, 000 million. Is that enough
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: of an incentive to get a state like California to capitulate?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: We'll have to find out. It was previously reported a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: declassified National Intelligence Council assessment concluding that Russia, China, Iran,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and North Korea did possess the capability to access and
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: potentially manipulate data in American election-related computer systems. That was
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: released in April, this declassified, again, National Intelligence Council assessment. Now,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the assessment didn't identify a specific plan to manipulate the election.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: It did, however, document vulnerabilities involving voter registration databases, electronic
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: poll books, and voting machines. We've been warned. It's been identified.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: And sadly, this is, I guess, the sad part about it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: It takes a threat by DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: a threat to withhold grants to get states interested in
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: dealing with the warnings that have been announced. It takes
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: a threat to withhold funds to get states to wake
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: up to the reality that their systems are compromised. And
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: if they say, no, we're not going to do this
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: counting of paper ballots. We don't need your stupid federal money.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: What would that suggest to you about the officials in
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the states that might do that? They're not interested in
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: determining whether or not the election system has been compromised? Now,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: will that depend? Will their interest in that issue depend
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: upon who ultimately gets elected? Can you imagine in blue California,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, a bunch of Republicans defied the overwhelming odds,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the 20-point difference in polling between the Democrat candidate and
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the Republican candidate because you can't elect a Republican in
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: most of these areas in California. If the Republican candidate
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: somehow won, do you think there'd be cries to investigate
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the integrity of the election system there? I would think so.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: That's why it's become a question of whose ox is
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: being gored. Democrats, it's like when I lived in Chicago,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I've said it multiple times, Democrats embraced fraud. They embraced
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: abuse by the Democrats. It's their fraud. It's their shenanigans.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: It's their corruption, so it inures to their benefit, so
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: they don't care about it. They'd be screaming bloody murder
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: if it was the other side's fraud and criminal behavior
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: if it rises to that level. You know, you get
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the idea. Anyway, I'm glad to see the mandatory paper
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: ballot counting And we'll wait to see if they actually
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: choose to do it.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: 513-749-50.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Detox Station. 621-55KRC. Detox Station. I dearly love my Fridays. David,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: how do you feel about it? Interesting. I always get
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: the same answer out of him. And Jay Radliff, iHeartMedia
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: aviation expert, was on yesterday, as he is on every
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Thursday at 830. Got a great podcast there, 55KRC. com to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: check out if you didn't get a chance to listen live.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Moving away from politics, talking about aviation, and I love
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: his posts on Facebook. Here's an astute observation. If the
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: out-of-control hatred I see on social media could be directed
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: at making things better, this world would be awesome. True, Jay.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: If it were only that simple. And does anybody appreciate,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I think this is a good idea, renaming, um, Lake Ontario.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Lake America. Which Donald Trump did yesterday. I was talking
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: with Joe Strecker about it. There was a meme going around.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump renamed San Andreas fault Joe Biden's fault. And
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I thought that was funny. And he goes, whoa, there's
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: another meme going around here that Donald Trump's renaming Lake
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Ontario Lake America. I said, oh, no, he did that yesterday.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Joe's like, really?
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Signed an executive order yesterday doing just that. The order
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: directs the Interior Secretary Doug Burgum working with the board
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: on geographic names. We have one of those. Take steps
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: within 30 days to rename the lake in Federal Geographic
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Names Information System. We have one of those. And remove
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: references to Lake Ontario completely. Also directs the board to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: ensure federal maps, contracts, documents, and agency communications use the
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: new name. Now, a rose by any other name would
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: smell as sweet. Lake Ontario by any other name would
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: still be the same space, right? We still share the
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: border with Canada. And of course... What we call Lake
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Ontario does not mean Canada has to call it that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: They're going to continue to refer to it as Lake Ontario.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I just don't know whether this is controversial. I'd like
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: to think we keep our head down and not engage
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: in controversial things in advance of the November elections. No
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: need to feed... the monkey of dissent, and drive more
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Democrats to the polls are already struggling with their own
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: reality about what their party actually stands for, which is
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: an earring to the Republicans' benefit. I'd like to think
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: in this country we still do not want to go
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: full-on communist, and thanks to $ 40 trillion in debt, people
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: are paying attention to the cost of what the Democrats
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: are pushing. That $ 40 trillion mark, symbolic as it was,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: has at least brought it to people's attention. And when
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: you're going into the polls in November, you can think,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: oh my God, the Democrats are offering me all kinds
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: of free stuff and things. Just remember, you can't afford
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: to pay for it. Anyway, I was pleased to see
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: this as well. American technology and ingenuity. And since my
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: father was a victim of the insidious nature of Alzheimer's disease,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Alzheimer's dementia. And of course, it did take his life.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: The Food and Drug Administration announced yesterday they have approved
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: a blood test for people over the age of 55
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: who are showing signs or who have been complaining of
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: cognitive decline. It's a blood test to detect this biomarker
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: they look for. It's called plasma phosphorylated tau-217, okay? Anyway,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: they did a study long ago, which was published in
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the Journal of American Medical Associations, higher levels of that
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: biomarker were associated with an increased risk of progression to
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: cognitive impairment. Now, I guess it's a great thing that
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: they might be able to trace this and detect it early. Apparently,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: LabCorp and Quest Diagnostics are going to have this new test.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: If it's ordered by a doctor, you can have your
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: blood drawn for the test in the doctor's office or
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: over at LabCorp or Quest Center. You get the information,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and I guess... It provides at least some guidance for
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: your physicians as you move forward and progress with the disease.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: But the sad part about it is, at least as
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: of right now, there's no cure. But I guess it
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: will help you prepare. It's one of those things, do
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I even want to know? Find myself in that quandary.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Do I even want to know something like that? If
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: there's no cure for it, does it benefit you and
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: your family to at least have upfront knowledge that it's
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: coming your way? Tech Friday with Dave Hatter, definitely coming
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: your way in the next segment. We'll get in for
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the balance show. 6.30 on a Friday. It is that
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: time of week. Appointment listening with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter
• 49:36
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• 49:39
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• 49:41
  Speaker 1: business when it comes to computer needs. Your business needs
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the best. That will be Interest IT. You can find
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: them online at interestit.com. Welcome back, Dave Hatter. It's so
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: great having you on the show again.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Always my pleasure, Brian. Happy to be here every Friday.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: More and more people paying attention to your off-stated words
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: about Internet of Things devices and hacking and need to
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: build in security measures. Got a growing concern over that. And,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: of course, it's only taken people several years to come
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: around to that reality, Dave Hatter. You've been talking about
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: it here on the 55KRC Morning Show, I think, for
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: as long as you and I have been talking.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I think you're right, Brian. I think you're right.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: And we will definitely be talking about that in the
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: third segment when we'll get to protecting America's critical infrastructure.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: But let us start with a stolen wallet. Why is
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: that a huge problem beyond just having your cash liberated
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: from you, Dave?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the obvious thing. And then the credit cards,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: debit cards are an obvious thing as well. You know,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: hopefully people have good PIN numbers associated with these things. But,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: you know, PIN number buying typically is four digits. There's
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: only so many permutations if you look at four digits, right?
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. You often will have other things
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: in your wallet, maybe a driver's license that has sensitive information.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: People carry all kinds of things in their wallets. I
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: know people who have written passwords down and put them
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: in their wallets. And one of the pieces of advice
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I would give folks in general is to understand, and
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: we've talked about it on here before, the whole idea
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: of these scanners that can skim your credit cards right
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: out of your pocket.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: You know, so it's not a bad idea. You know,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: it might add a little extra expense versus just your
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: standard wallet or purse. It's not a bad idea for
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: people to look into these RFID blocking bags and wallets,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: maybe even like a Faraday cage bag that you can
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: put your phone in when you want it disconnected for
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: whatever reason. But, you know, the bottom line is that
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: personal information that's in your wallet, maybe a Social Security card,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: maybe anything else you're carrying in there, health insurance cards, right? Again,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: people carry a lot of stuff around, especially like if
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: you look at my wife's purse, she has all kinds
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: of stuff in there, right? That stuff gives identity thieves
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: and criminals all kinds of information they need to, A,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: perpetrate identity theft in your name or B, and I
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: think this is probably even more common now. A lot
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: of times, you know, if I can get your cards,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I might be able to get to your money. But
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: if I have all this information about you, whether I
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: steal it because your wallet is lost or stolen, or
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I get it because it's been leaked or breached on
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: the dark web or whatever, that information makes it possible
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: for me to pretend to be someone else seem like
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: I am legitimately that personal organization. Like, you know, if
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I have all this information about you, I can call
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: and claim to be your health insurance company. I can
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: claim to be your bank. I can claim to be
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: almost anyone. And, you know, if I start asking you
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: questions and we interact, I'm going to have information that's
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: going to make it seem like I would only know
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: that because I am who I am purporting to be.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense, what I'm trying to get at?
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: It does. Yeah. It's like when they ask you sufficient
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: information to establish who you are when your physician's office
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: calls you. They have to get you to identify your
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: birth date, maybe your home address, before they can talk
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, if you have enough of that,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: it all just sounds legit. Who in the hell else
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: would have that information?
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: How would someone know all of this information about me
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: unless they're looking at their system because they are who
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: they claim to be? Bottom line is, you know, you
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: need to protect that information as we discuss all the time. And,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: you know, if you lose your wallet, you need to
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: immediately start to notify your bank, get new credit cards,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: get new debit cards. You know, I suggest to people
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: all the time that you just keep your credit frozen.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Unless you're just applying for loans on a regular basis,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: there's no benefit in my mind to keeping your credit unlocked.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I have mine locked slash frozen all the time.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: TransUnion, Experian, the major credit companies, right?
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: You can go in there.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Mine are locked too. I followed your advice several years
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: ago on that one. I haven't had to open an
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: account or get more credit in years and years.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, and you can always, on a
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: temporary basis, unlock it if you need to apply for
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: some sort of credit and then lock it back. You know,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: it just makes it harder for someone to steal your
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: identity if you do that sort of thing, right? You know,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: you can use credit monitoring services. Now, people will argue
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: with me all the time. Well, what am I paying for?
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: What am I getting? I can do that myself. Yeah,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: you can probably do much of it yourself, but can
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: you do it with the discipline and with the scale?
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: They can do it. Now, I'm not here to sell
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: that to you today. I'm just saying, if you look
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: into how these things work, right, you know, are you
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: going to go check all three credit bureaus regularly? Are
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: you going to check all your accounts? Are you going
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: to notice some minor fraudulent transaction that came from, let's say,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Paraguay or something? Because a lot of times, if your
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: credit card is stolen, they'll try to run a small
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: transaction first to see if you're paying attention.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: Right. Right.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: And if that doesn't get caught, then they'll move on
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: to some sort of larger scale fraud.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the technological advances that I appreciate,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: because anytime my credit cards are used, I get a
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: notice that you've, you know, like a transaction of X
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: amount just reported on your credit card. So you immediately
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: know if someone's been someone's used your credit card. Fortunately
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: for me, you know, it's like, no, I literally just
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: ordered something on Amazon. I got an alert that my
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: credit card had been used. And so I'm like, OK,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: no problem. So that's I like that feature.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the reasons why, in general, I
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: encourage people, whatever alerts you can get from your credit cards,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: your bank, et cetera, you should turn that stuff on.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: And I know it creates a lot of noise, but
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: you need to pay attention to those sort of things
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: so that if and when you do have an unfortunate
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: situation like this where your wallet or purse is lost
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: or stolen, it's going to make it easy for you
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: to get in front of that. You're going to want
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: to report this stuff as soon as possible. Getting a
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: new driver's license is not fun. I've had to do
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: it before. But the good news is if you think,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: and the less sensitive information you're carrying around on your person,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: the better, like most people do not need to have
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: their social security card on them on a regular basis.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I get, if you've, you know, started a new job
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: or something like that, you might need to have it,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: but ultimately you don't need, don't carry around any more
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: than you absolutely need. So that in the event you
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: lose your wallet, your purse gets stolen. You have less
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: things to try to fix. And should this happen, you
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: need to act quickly.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Amen. Sound advice.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: The longer you wait, the more exposure you have.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Well, it gets worse. You might have your wallet stolen and,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: of course, all the risks that go along with that,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: as Dave pointed out. But what if someone hacks into
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: your email? That is frightening. He's going to explain that
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: one coming up next at 637-55-KRC Detox Station. Have your...
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: 641-55-KRC Detox Station. It's Tech Friday. Dave Hatter from interestit.com. Also, LinkedIn.com.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: You're looking for Dave Hatter's articles and the ones he
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: refers to when he's talking with me this morning and
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: the things he talks about throughout the week. LinkedIn. Just
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: search Dave Hatter and you will find him. Dave Hatter
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: pivoting over to someone breaking into an email. This sounds
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: like a major problem. Is he not there?
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: Dave?
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: Dave?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Dave? Yeah, I'm here.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Don't do that. Stop putting your phone on mute.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, I put it on mute for a second.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Don't do that.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Sorry about that. So a word for the wise.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Pay attention to your mute button and then don't let
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the window go behind another window where you can't find
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: it again.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: That's happened on the fly here in the morning show, too.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: That throws me into panic mode.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very irritating. But I did it to myself.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Even Tech Friday's Dave Hatter struggles with technology.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yes. So the email thing. I argue with people about
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: this all the time, Brian, because people will tell me, well,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I have nothing to hide. I don't care if you
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: get my email or read my email. So what? Well,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: my answer to that is that may very well be
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: the case. However... Your email account now has become a
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: major identifier. Now, some people might have more than one,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: but many people have one email account they use all
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: the time. It's connected to all their other accounts. It's
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: the identifier they use to log into their bank, their
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: health insurance, et cetera, right?
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: So what happens, Brian, when you forget your password on
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: an account? How does that typically work? Well, you go
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: hit the forgot password. And it sends a link to
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: the email account that is on file, right? You see
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: where I'm going here?
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: So you get that link, you click the link, it
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: resets your password, and now you're back into your account. Now, ideally,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: you have multi-factor authentication turned on too, but the bottom
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: line is those password resets go to your email account.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: If I'm a bad guy and I can take over
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: your account, we call that an account takeover in the business, right?
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: We take over your account. I can immediately change your password,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: lock you out of your own account, and And then
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: start working through all of your emails to figure out
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: every other account you have, your bank, your health insurance,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: your retirement account, you name it. It's probably somewhere in
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: your email, which I have now locked you out of.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: You ever tried to call Microsoft or Google when you
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: get locked out of an account and see if they're
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: going to help you?
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: No, no one even thinks about trying to do that
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: because they know it's an exercise in futility, Dave Hatter.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And that article that was the basis
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: of this conversation this morning points out that ultimately, you know,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: this happens to people and you can literally watch your
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: account start getting drained because I lock you out of
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: your email. Then I start going through your accounts, resetting
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: your passwords. They're coming to your email account, which I
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: now control. I reset your password for your bank account.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: You're locked out.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: I can steal all your money. I reset your password
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: for your retirement account. You're locked out. I can steal
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: all your money. I cannot stress enough, as we have
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: become now very dependent on email and it's centric to
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: everything most people do. If someone can take over your
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: email account, they can potentially wreck your entire life in
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: a very short period of time. Because once you're locked out,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: they can go to town. And again, it will be
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: difficult to get control of your account again, which is
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: why it's absolutely critical. to have strong, unique passwords for
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: all your accounts, but especially for any critical account, like
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: a bank account or your email account, since it's central
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: to all of these other accounts. Get a password manager, folks.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Get a password manager like 1Password. It's going to let
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: you create ridiculously complex passwords that will be very, very
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: difficult to hack for all of your accounts. Then you
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: only need to know one really, really strong password that
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: unlocks your password manager.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Sound advice.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: We talk about We talk about multi-factor authentication all the time.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: You know, you need to turn on multi-factor authentication or
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: two-factor authentication on all your accounts. It's not foolproof, but
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: it substantially raises the bar. Even better, stop using the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: text-based version. Use an authenticator app. You install it on
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: your device. You connect your authenticator codes to that app. Now,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: if you want to get into my accounts, you literally
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: have to have my phone, unlock my phone, Open the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: authenticator app to get the code. It's not just coming
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: to a text message that could potentially be intercepted or
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: SIM swapped. And then the last thing they suggest in here,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: which I totally agree with, do not connect third-party apps
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: to your mailbox. Do not use your email account or
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: let things, don't log in with like a Google login
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: or a Microsoft login, unless that's the platform you're using.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: If you're using Gmail, fine. If you're using Microsoft 365, fine.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: But if you're on some of the third-party platform, like
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: I use ProtonMail for my personal stuff, I have a
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: very strong password. I have multi-factor authentication turned on through
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: an authenticator app. It's not connected to anything else. There's
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: nothing else accessing that email. I'm not using any other
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: accounts to log into it because It is central to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: all of my personal stuff, and I understand this risk,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: so I am protecting it. You might even want to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: consider for people, you know, have more than one email account,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: one that's kind of used for just general spam purposes,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: and then one that is specifically used to connect to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: critical accounts so that it's not out there everywhere and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: it would be more difficult for a hacker to get.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Sound advice. Dave Hatter, apparently the word has
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: gotten out. We need to protect America's critical infrastructure. One
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: more with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter, intrustit.com. 647 right now,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: 55KRC Talk Station. Another quick word here from my friend.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: It's 650, 55KRC Talk Station. One more segment. With Tech
• 1:02:35
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: and his team to help your business with their computer needs.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: And they finally listened to you, Dave Hatter. Protecting America's
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: critical infrastructure is finally making the headlines. People have gotten
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: the memo. Dave, what does this mean?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian. Well, I hope it's a step in the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: right direction. You probably saw this week President Trump signed
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: an executive order declaring a national emergency to secure America's
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: bulk power system. Yep. And this is one of the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: most critical things that I've been worried about. And there
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: are multiple, multiple critical infrastructure sectors per the FBI. You know,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, telecom and electricity, probably
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: almost equivalent to one another. You know, you need electricity
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: to drive everything, but everything is now interconnected. So the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: telecom sector, think the internet, right? They say telecom, at
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's really now all internet. Yeah,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: there's still some plain old telephone system lines out there
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: and so forth, but this is the internet. And that's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: part of what makes this so difficult to protect is
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: that now everything is digital, everything is interconnected. So even
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: if the power is up, if you knock out the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: telecom system, the internet, this stuff is eventually going to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: go down. But I was very happy to see this
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: executive order. There's been a lot of people talking about it.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Is it enough? I'm not sure. But at least we
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: are now seemingly paying attention to this at all levels
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: of the government. People on the street are starting to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: get the message. We've talked before, Brian, in the last
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks, in 12 states, more than 100 water
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: plants were hacked. One was shut down temporarily. We've had
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: ports hacked. We've had 911 systems knocked offline. We've had
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: all kinds of critical infrastructure hacking. We've had the FBI
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: warning about this for literally four years, particularly the telecom
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: system in There's a great op-ed in Security Magazine. Probably
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: the average person isn't going to get a ton out
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: of this, but this is a guy who worked in
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: the telecom sector for a long time for Cox Communications.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: And he says, telecommunications represents one of the most interconnected
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: critical infrastructure sectors because every other sector depends on reliable
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: communications to operate. Disruption to communications can immediately affect emergency services, hospitals,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: financial institutions, transportation systems, utilities, and government operations. And he's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: exactly right. It's all interconnected now. And if you can
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: take out the telecom slash internet, you're taking out everything
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: else eventually if it doesn't come back online soon. If
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: you knock out the power grid, you're taking out everything. Yeah,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: once the diesel power generators run out. And I want
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: to reiterate, Brian, it's not just, I try to say this,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: it's not just cyber attacks. Software fails, equipment fails, right?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: You may recall, it hasn't been that long since we
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: talked about internet outages and so forth. You know, this
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: went down, that went down for a day or two,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: and the potential impact had that not been fixed. And
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: it didn't appear to be cyber attacks. It appeared to
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: be like a key router went out or something. So
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: it's not just cyber. It's natural disasters. It's solar flares.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: It's potentially EMP attack. There's a situation out in California
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: where guys went around, I believe it was 2013, with
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: high-powered rifles and shot out a bunch of these critical
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: transformers that take years to build and generally are not
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: in inventory. So I'm very happy to see the executive
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: order from the president. I think it's a key step
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: in the right direction. Again, is it perfect? Will it
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: solve all the problems? Probably not. But From the local
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: level to the state level to the federal level, we
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: have got to get serious about protecting this stuff because
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: it's not just, oh, darn, I can't get my email today.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: It might be, oh, darn, the power grid. Look at
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: the situation for the poor folks in Indiana that have
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: had power out for, in some cases, more than a week,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: maybe two weeks. Think how difficult it is. Apparently, there
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: was a fairly good-sized power outage in Utah last night.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's been fixed. I don't know
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: what the rationale for it is. But if you go
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: from my power's out for a couple of days to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: my power is out for a month, my power is
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: out for six months because the grid is down, we've
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: got a huge, huge problem.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you can't even bank then.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Can't bank, can't work. Yeah.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, the ripple effect is just amazing. I mean,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: just the things you will not have access to. You know,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: the power goes out, people who are on respirators and,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you know, life-saving equipment done, alarms, you know, like security
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: alarms in your home if you got one, you know,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. No, the police will not be
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: called if someone kicks your door and that's not going
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: to work. I mean, just over every single thing.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Our society is incredibly dependent on electricity and then technology. Well,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: it's the electricity that makes the technology work. It's the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: electricity that pumps the water out of your faucet. It's
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: the electricity that keeps your insulin cold. Yeah, it's all
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: super interconnected and we have all these wonderful modern conveniences.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: If the grid is taken out for whatever reason for
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: any extended period of time, I don't think people can
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: really imagine the problems. I encourage folks, go check out
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: the book One Second After. It's a novel. It's fiction.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Movie's coming out soon. It's all about an EMP attack
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: that knocks out the power grid. And, you know, again,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: these transformers take sometimes 18 to 36 months to build.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: They're not just sitting around waiting. Not to mention, imagine
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: the chaos if the power was out across the country
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: for three or four months. So who's going to be
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: putting the transformers back in?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: It's really pretty scary. Anarchy, Dave. That's anarchy.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: It's way past time that we get serious about this. Again,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I'll put the link to that book, Foundation for Infrastructure Resilience.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I keep bringing them up. They're exclusively focused on this
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: sort of thing.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Well, in this call to action from OpenAI, one possible
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: good use of artificial intelligence in spite of the nefarious
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: realities of it, artificial intelligence can be used to figure
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: out how to hack into critical infrastructure. And maybe from
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: learning by what AI does, we can plug the hole. So,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: you know, there's some good out there. Dave Hatter, I
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: appreciate the emphasis you place on that particular topic and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: keep it up all the time. We'll do this again
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: next Friday. And as always, thank you for doing what
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: you do for the greater Cincinnati area businesses in TrustIT.com.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas here talking with a Congressman, former Congressman. I
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: always like to say Congressman still Brad Winthrop. He's still
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: a doctor. He's a citizen and he's in studio. It's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: seven Oh six. If anybody cares, see the talk station.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: It's great to see you, my friend.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: Good to see you too, Brian.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: And you're not retired. You haven't faded away. No, I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: have not.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I'm finding myself getting extremely
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: busy in a good way. I'm doing a lot of consulting,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: and mostly it's in national security issues, supply chain issues,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: and health issues.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Health.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: And we do want to talk about that.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about that right out of the gate.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: And I'm sitting on the President's Intelligence Advisory Board, and.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Cats out of the bag because CNN reported it and
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure how they know, but I had been
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: offered to be FDA director, but I felt like I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: was willing to do a lot more and more broadspin.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: I don't want to be pigeonholed. And not only that,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: the reason I left Congress is to be home, to
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: be a father to my children and a husband to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: my wife.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: You might find yourself a little bit busier than you
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: were as a Congressman being the director of the FDA.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Probably so, but I'm, But they're also reaching out to
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: me for a variety of things to be engaged on
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: the rural health issues and national security issues involving health
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: and pharmaceuticals, et cetera. So I'm happy with that. You know,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: it's all stuff that's in my lane. You say former congressman,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: retired colonel. and still a licensed physician.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to give you credit. You need to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: maintain your license.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: Which was interesting. I'm going to be doing admissions interviews
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: for Xavier's new med school starting next week.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's going to be an exciting thing. So
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty content with the things that I'm able to
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: do and still be able to coach basketball and baseball
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: for my kids.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're still young, but they're back in school,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: and you've got lots to do in your role with
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: the Americans for Health Excellence. Let's talk about that a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's something that came along in the past year,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: and I was asked to be director of that, and
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: it's really a patient-centered group. And really what we're focusing
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: on is health policies that benefit patients, and that includes affordability, accessibility,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: quality of health care, And, you know, we're paying attention
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: to the value of the healthy human life. You know,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: this is something that I always fought in DC sitting
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: on ways and means committee. It's like, when are you
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: going to give any value to that? And let me
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: give you an example. And I probably use this on,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: on this show before is, you know, we get a
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: cure for hepatitis C which is pretty debilitating for a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: lot of people. And the immediate response in DC is
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: what's that going to cost? Well, what does a liver
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: transplant cost? Because that's your only other cure. And so
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: the return on investment is huge because now you have
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: healthy people that can go to work and that can
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: contribute to society and be part of the American dream
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: and not be hospitalized and go through all these things
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: as a result of that. And the benefit is great.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: And as I said on Ways and Means Committee more
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: than once, and when you have that healthy human being
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: and they're out there working and paying taxes and That's
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: more money you can get your grubby little hands on.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Well, and isn't that the problem with the medicine, generally speaking?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: You as a doctor and we as the patients, it's
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: a reactive thing. We go throughout our life and eat
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: crappy food and don't take care of ourselves, don't exercise.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: And listen, I can look in the mirror and say
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: the same thing about myself a lot. And I've tried
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: to correct my ways, but I'm 60 now, and it's
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: only in the last couple of years that I've endeavored
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: to get rid of the additives and preservatives and sugars
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: and all the stuff that we found out is so unbelievably,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: horrifically bad for us. And you look back at the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: food pyramid, JFK Jr. did brilliance in changing that for
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: decades and decades. We were stuffing ourselves with carbs because
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: they told us that we should. So we allowed ourselves
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: to get sick. And then once you're sick, you got
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: all these pharmaceuticals and all these reactive things to do
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: that are so damn costly. If we can get ahead
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: of it and send people... Right. Send people down a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: healthy path, working with our physicians who no longer are
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: trying to peddle a pharmaceutical, but trying to get us
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: on the road to avoiding those things. A little bit
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: of money up front can eradicate thousands, millions of billions
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: of dollars in care down the road when you're sick.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why we advocate for, you know, what what
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: more can we do for prevention and what more can
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: we do for early diagnosis and treatment and those types
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: of things? And we're focused on pocketbook solutions, too, because
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: that's a big driver. And there's so much that we
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: have learned through polls, et cetera, what's popular. And I
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  Speaker 4: say this because we're going into election season, right?
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  Speaker 2: True.
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  Speaker 4: And so what are some of the things that are
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: out there that we have tried to get through? And
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: I'll give you an example. Marionette Miller-Meeks of Iowa, Dr.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: Marionette Miller-Meeks. She's a congresswoman from Iowa. She has the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: Prices on the.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Wall Act, right?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: Post your prices.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Okay? So this is for hospitals, surgery centers, imaging centers, labs. Now,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: some of them do that.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: LabCorp.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, some of them. Who's the imaging department? ProScan. ProScan.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: That's the one I was thinking of. They're very good
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Ask them.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: Call them up.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: How much is an MRI? They'll tell you. Yeah. Do
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: that with a hospital.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: And they'll also say, if you run it through your insurance,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: here's what it's going to cost. It'll probably cost you more.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: So anyway, that's one of the things that she has
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: out there. And she's gotten this through committee. But the
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: interesting thing is every Democrat voted against that.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: Good question.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: They don't ever articulate the reason why they're against something
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: like that, which is the benefit for all American consumers
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: of health care. They can't explain it.
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  Speaker 4: They can't explain it. But because it's a Republican idea,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: I guess. But, you know, you look at things, too.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: We like what Trump Rx has done. And when you
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: have an entity such as that, they can tell you, hey,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: you can get your prescription for a lot less.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: But Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Greg Murphy in Congress, one of my close friends, he
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: has a bill that says if you pay cash, that
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: that should be able to be applied to your deductible.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: Because you're doing it outside of the system where they
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: might own the pharmacy and everything else, you're getting it
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: for less, yet should be able to go toward your deductible.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: And And why, why is it not going toward your deductible?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: Because you didn't run it through your insurance. You got
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: it outside of that, but you got it for less
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: than what your insurance would cost you.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: You got it for less than your copay.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: And, and there's things to manufacturers offer a copay capability,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: give you a credit card for your copay for certain drugs,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: especially if you are in need. And that's, apparently not
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: allowed right now. So we want to make those types
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: of things allowed. It's all for the benefit of patients
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: so that they're able to actually get what they need
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: to be healthy and to be maybe even with a
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: chronic disease, have a better quality of life. So we
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: did these polls and these things are popular amongst Republicans, Democrats,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: and Independents, but it's only Republicans that are acting on them.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: And so, you know, we're advising and I've been out
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: talking to candidates and saying, you need to run on this.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: These are popular with all people because everyone has experienced
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: the thing. And I will tell you what was very interesting.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: The number one concern in health care across the board
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: was the cost of their insurance. And you're paying a
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: lot for that insurance. But then what are you getting? Delays,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: denials of care, all of those things. It's a problem.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: And people are recognizing it. And it's good because actions
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: are starting to be taken. And it's good to see
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: that the American public, maybe not some politicians, But the
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: American public is realizing the insurance companies are a big
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: part of the problem that we have in our health
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: care system today and the government.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And so it's it's becoming apparent. And I think there's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: some good news, you know, around the corner with the
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: public realizing this. I mean, you see Democrats right now
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: they're running on Medicare for all and complaining that Republicans
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: didn't subsidize the insurance companies for the Affordable Care Act.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: which clearly is an unaffordable care act or you wouldn't
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: need the subsidies. It doesn't make any sense, but people,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: I hope, are understanding this.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: I thought we were keeping our doctor and it was
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: going to be $ 2, 500 less under Obamacare.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So none of that proved to be true.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: It's proven to be the unaffordable health care plan.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: $ 12, 000 out-of-pocket liability before the insurance kicks in. $ 24, 000 under
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Obamacare for a family before the insurance works. How's that
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: working out for the American public?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: Put the decisions into the hands of the patient and
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: their doctor on what they need and also how they
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: spend their money and where the dollars are going. That
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: makes a whole lot more sense.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: And more on this topic, most notably your reference to
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: the national security realities of our American health. We've got
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: lots to go over with.
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  Speaker 2: Citizen.
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  Speaker 1: Dr. Brad Wenstrip. Don't go away. Be right back. 55KRCD Station. 719,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: coming up at 720, 55KRCD Talk Station. Our power with
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: private citizen Dr. Brad Wenstrup. He proudly served his country
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: in America's military, served in Congress, and he's still serving
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: his country on the Americans for Health Excellence panel and
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: other areas of government where he's helping to direct health policy.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Former Congressman, you had commented to me and then briefly
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: referenced it on the air in the first segment about
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: health being a national security issue. problem for us. And
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I immediately thought of, and mentioned out loud, he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: bring it up now, as a component of that, where
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: I read only one in 10 military-aged young people can
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: actually qualify to serve in American military, either because of
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: drug use, obesity, physical limitations. So 10%, but of which
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: only one or 2% even serves. So the, the, the draw,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: the pool from which we could even draw is extraordinarily
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: limited because just young people aren't healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I just did an event in DC where I moderated
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: the event and it was with Cincinnati children's and we
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: were talking about pediatric health, obviously. And, you know, we,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: we can get into, you know, what we're doing with
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: snap and a variety of things, but there's, it's, it's
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: so multifaceted, but one of the people there was, um,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: General McChrystal, and he was talking about what I've been
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: talking about for several years with our military. You know,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: I'm a retired soldier in our military, unable to recruit
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: because of the numbers you just referenced, and people aren't
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: healthy enough to actually put on the uniform. And, you know,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: it's the importance of us being able to maintain the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: health of the troops that we do have, but also
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: to have a youth that is capable of serving. And
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: the obesity is a problem.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Capability is one critical component. Desire to serve is the
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: other one. And we need a boost of patriotism in
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: this country. We could probably go on for days about
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: the school systems. But go back to the point.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's quite right. But what I also looked
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: at is in serving Congress, I'm looking at these numbers
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: that show that we were losing over 100,000 a year.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: to overdoses between 18 and 45 years old. That's the
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: military age, right? 18 to 45 is the military age
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: and we're losing them over a hundred thousand years. Now
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: those numbers are going down.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: Because we stopped the flow of fentanyl and we've stopped
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: the flow of, and not only that, we stopped the
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: flow of diseases coming into our country. with some of this.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Where do the measles come from then, former Congressman Brad?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: I'll just call you Brad. That'd make it easier. But
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: we went for years and years and years. No one
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: ever had measles. And I'll go ahead and give vaccines
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: perhaps credit for that. But when you're living in a
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: country that no longer was exposed to measles, you might
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: be able to go down the road of, well, do
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: I really even need a measles vaccine? Well, enter 10
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: to 20 million people from abroad who did not have
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: a vaccine for it and probably brought in measles with them.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as a doctor's caucus, we went down to the border.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: I went there several times for a variety of reasons,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: as you might understand, with the roles that I had
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: in Congress. But we took a troop specifically as the
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: doctor's caucus. And this was a real problem. And, you know,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: you have to screen people for all of these things.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, I can remember someone coming to me and saying,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: you know, it's terrible. They have these patients sitting, or patients,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: they have these people coming in and they're sleeping on
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: mats On the floor. He said, well, first of all,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: that's the best thing that they've had in months because
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: they've been driven through Mexico via the cartels who they're paying.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: And don't forget the abuses of the cartels. But nonetheless,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: they're sleeping on mats because we can clean those. You know,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: and people are coming in with scabies and lice and
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: tuberculosis and bedbugs. I mean, there's all of these things.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: But the good news is, and such a timely article
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: today in the Wall Street Journal.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: That I wanted to come in here and talk to
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: you about all this. You're living longer, Americans.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I haven't had that one printed from when I was
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: preparing for the program today.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome. Great minds think alike.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: Capitalism and pharma are delivering cures that increase life expectancy.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: American ingenuity in the pharmaceutical and medical field.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: And we want to be the leaders in that. We
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: want the United States to be the leaders in that.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: We are saving lives. We are leading the world. Cancer's
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: You know, lifespan. I call it healthspan. It's not just
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: your lifespan. It's you can live healthier.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Quality of life.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: Exactly. And these are the things that we're able to
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: do through capitalism. That doesn't happen in the other systems.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: No, they wait around for us to develop the cures
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: and the treatments, and then they glom on and get
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: them for less than we pay. How's that working out?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so that's something that the Trump administration has
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: been doing. So Jody Arrington on Ways and Means Committee,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: friend of mine, he has a bill called USTRX, and
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: it allows for a negotiator to go into these other
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: countries and say, you're not going to get them for
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: less than Americans have to pay. Because what we're trying
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: to do, and it's starting to happen, is Americans can
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: pay less when the others pay more. You know, the
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: cost to develop these drugs doesn't go away. And I
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: know there's always that fine line between You know, developing
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: a drug, the cost that goes into research and development,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: and then the profits that come with that. And that
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: is something we always need to keep an eye on.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: And I get that component of things. But you can't
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: be out there just criticizing everybody who ever develops a
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: drug that's successful.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: I understand. Listen, man, I'm probably still alive because of
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical companies. You know, there is no question about
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: it that they do some wonderful things for society. It's
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: just maybe we've got a business model problem. There needs
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: to be some balance in there, perhaps. I don't know.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: We have a lot more to go over with Brad.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Former congressman, private citizen, Brad Wenstrup. We'll continue for the
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: rest of this hour. Don't go away. 55KRC. com. 729 here
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: at 55KRC. Dog Station, Brian Thomas with former congressman Brad Wenstrup,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: who's been talking a lot about health this morning, which
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: I think is important. You know, I've got to tell you.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: I've always thought RFK Jr. is kind of a weird guy,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: but I love what he is doing in terms of
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: raising awareness about health. And I talked about this the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: other day. It was reported. You mentioned you got another
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal article you want to mention, dovetailing nicely
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: with the you're living longer Americans point you just made
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: in the last segment. But the idea that we become
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: aware now that the harm that sugar does, processed corn syrup,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: refined sugar, it's in literally everything. This SNAP benefit restriction,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: They allowed states to finally give them an option to
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: limit crappy food from available SNAP qualifications. And, you know,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: it's nutrition assistance. A Coca-Cola or a Mountain Dew is
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: not nutritious. It has nothing by way of nutritional value.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: And that it was ever available to buy under the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: SNAP program is mind-boggling to me. But the states that
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: were taking off these sodas and the sugary products... saw
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: a precipitous drop in the amount of consumed sodas and
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: sugary beverages. And bad food. Welcome to a government program
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: actually doing something good for the recipients of the benefits.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: Which it was intended to do. I will tell you
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: some of the responses I would get from the other
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: side of the aisle over the years when talking about
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: this issue, which I'm grateful that this secretary is doing
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: something about it. They would say, well, rich people get
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: to buy bad food. I said, yeah, and rich people
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: are paying for their own health care. If they want
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: to do that, they're going to pay the piper. Exactly.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: It's like any other service from government.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: As Kennedy said, I moderated an event with him in Cleveland.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: HHS called and said, can you get up to Cleveland
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: and do this? And it was he and I one-on-one
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: and then questions from the audience. But he said, look,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: and this is basically true. He goes, we are paying people.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: to make our people sick. And he pointed out that
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: in 1962, when was his uncle elected president?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: 60?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: 60.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: 60.
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  Speaker 4: He said, when my uncle was elected president of the
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: United States, we were the healthiest nation in the world.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: He said, now we're the sickest. And why should that be?
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: You know, we've done it to ourselves in so many ways.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: And I will say this, our doctor's caucus is You know,
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  Speaker 4: before he came out and said, make America healthy again,
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  Speaker 4: we were saying, these are the things we want to
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  Speaker 4: implement to be the healthiest nation on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: Go back to being the healthiest nation.
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  Speaker 2: On the planet.
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  Speaker 4: We had it once. And I was calling it the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: healthiest nation on earth. And, and my wife said, why
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  Speaker 4: don't you use the word planet? Because the left really
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: likes the word planet and maybe they'll pay attention to
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  Speaker 4: what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: You know, so, um, He is doing a lot of
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  Speaker 4: things that just really needed to be done. They're common
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  Speaker 4: sense things. And, you know, look, we're allowed to make mistakes.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: We're allowed to make mistakes. We're a country that gets
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: to mend our flaws. Let's do that. It's obvious what
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: the problem is. So let's do that. And it's obvious
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: why it needs to be done in so many ways. So,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: you know, we segue into that other article. Now you
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: have people dying for Medicare for all.
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  Speaker 6: Why?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 4: You know, basically, if we have Medicare for all, it's
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: like we have Medicaid.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: And Medicaid has the highest mortality and morbidity and the
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: least access to care. And I like what this article says,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: what has taken place within Medicaid and Medicare when it
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: comes save to treating your cancer. It says, across five cancers,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: Medicaid beneficiaries were between 11 and 42% more likely than
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: private insured patients to wait more than a month for treatment.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: Cancer treatment can't wait. This is what happens. It's a
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: frustration for doctors, frustration for patients.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? I was quickly going to say rationing care,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: but it's actually rationing life, isn't it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a savings to people dying.
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  Speaker 1: And again, Maureen, good morning. I know you're listening. She
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  Speaker 1: believes a driver of a whole lot of these nefarious
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: actions is population control. She brings it up all the time.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to say there's a direct line
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: from Medicare for all or Medicaid, which would be the
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: reality of it, to that. But the practical reality is
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: more people will die because of the rationing of care.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that true? Whether that's the design, that
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: is a fact.
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  Speaker 4: It shouldn't be. You're talking maybe with the elderly that
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: are on Social Security. But at the same time, it's
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: going to take American youth and people producing more than
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: 1.5 children per couple. to pay into Social Security. So
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: you've got that too.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: No, they're just going to reduce the benefits people get
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: under Social Security by 25% or so. And that's looming
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: within the next five years, if I recall correctly. Do
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: you think there'll be a solution out of Congress to
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: nip that in the bud and write the Social Security ship?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Or are we destined to have a significant cut in
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: benefits going out to the seniors?
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  Speaker 4: It'll probably happen at the last minute. I mean, the former, well,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: the ranking member for Social Security on Ways and Means Committee,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: at one time, you know, he was ranting about, we
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: got to fix it, we got to fix it. And
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: I said to him, well, you were in charge when
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: you had the House, Senate, and the White House. You
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: were in charge of Social Security. And I said, why
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: didn't you do that then? And he said, well, we
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: were too focused on the Affordable Care Act. Well, thank
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: you very much for that disaster too. I mean, politics
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: is a crazy business. But look, we're talking about some
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: of the positive things that are taking place here. And
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: that's a good thing. And we need to make the
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: American people understand who is driving that. And going into
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: the election, I can tell you it's Republicans that are
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: driving these changes that are good for America, good for
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  Speaker 4: the next generation, which to me was always important. What
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: effect are we having on the next generation? And it
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: better be positive. And it's something that they might say
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: thank you for.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: Got a couple more segments with Brad Winstrup in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go away. Got lots to talk about. 55KRC, the
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: talk station. No required... 45KRC, the talk station. Very happy
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  Speaker 1: Friday to you. Brad Thomas with Brad Wenstrup in the studio.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: Dwelling on health and how important it is. Good morning,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: John Grywe. John said hello. Fellow fraternity brother. Brad and
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: I separated by quite a few years. We didn't attend
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: school at the exact same time, but both belong to
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: the same fraternity. I would say I have the greatest
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: listening audience in radio, and of course, John is an
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: illustration of that right there. Smart man and a good
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: man he is, and you want to pivot over to
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: a great contrast healthcare during COVID as contrasted with what
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: is appropriate healthcare and what we should have. So we
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: got all these Lords and masters, these distant so-called learned
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: folks telling us what we need to do and screaming
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: at everybody for violating the science or ignoring the science,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: depriving practitioners of their diagnostic abilities, their, ability to direct
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: the health care of the patient that's sitting right in
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: front of them in the room, and applying this one-size-fits-all
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: crap to everybody, which included telling pharmacies what they could
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: fill and could not fill by way of prescriptions. Go ahead,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: take the ball and run with it from there, Brad.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, one of the things I said before COVID,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: and I said this in ways it means many times,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: is we need to hear more from the people wearing
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: the white coats, not the ones who were writing the
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: white papers. Not the people. I got asked at one point, like, for...
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: a health position within our federal government. They said, what
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: should we be looking for from that person? And we'll
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: just take, for example, if it was CDC. And I said, well,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: why don't you get someone that's actually treated patients, especially
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: one that's maybe treated infectious disease.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Isn't that part of the job qualification?
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and more important, someone who's actually had to stand
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: over patients when there was nothing they could do.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: Ooh.
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  Speaker 4: You know, because that's somebody who's going to get it.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: Someone who's had that feeling and have that person be
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: someone who knew how to talk to that family or
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: knew how to talk to the American public. That is
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: what we need in our public health system today is
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: people that can that can do that. And, you know,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: what I said during COVID over and over again was
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: we need to be hearing from the doctors treating COVID patients,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: not not the politicians and not the person in the lab.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: but someone who's actually there. Imagine the difference, someone coming out,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: pulling down the mask to a bank of microphones saying,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: here's what I saw today. Here's who's dying. Here's who's not.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: Here's what's working. Here's what's not. We're having some success
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: with ivermectin. Instead, we had someone who's not treating patients saying,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: you can't use that. Don't use it.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: And instructing pharmacies they couldn't fill the damn prescription.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: That, That was a bridge too blank and far for me.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: But here's another thing. We need to make sure, and
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: it's part of the recommendations that we have after I
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: chaired the pandemic committee, we need to be able to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: get accurate data to providers and let the doctor-patient relationship flourish.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: And I've spoken at med school graduations and white coat ceremonies,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: and I've related something that I find to be very true,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: found in my practice always. There's nothing that can replace...
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: The pat on the back or the holding of someone's
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: hand and looking them in the eye and saying, I'm
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: going to do everything I can to help you. AI
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: can't do that. AI can be helpful. AI can't do that. So,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: you know, this is not just a transaction at a
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: drugstore counter. This is a human-to-human transaction that it's important
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: that it's carried out properly. And those are some of
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: the things that we have to keep stressing in health care.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: This is between you and your doctor. You said it's
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: not a blanket thing. I'm all in favor of CDC
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: making recommendations based on the sciences. They know it and
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: things like that. But what it comes down to with
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: what patients get is the doctor and the patient discussing
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: what we know, what we don't know. You're healthy. Like,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: for example, our pediatrician said, but to my kids, They're
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: healthy kids. And you know, there's a good chance they
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: probably had COVID. I'm not going to check them for antibodies,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: but they probably had COVID. I don't believe they need
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: the COVID-19 vaccine.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: I just want to recall the other day, but a
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: doctor lost her license because she talked about natural immunity
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: and also did an ivermectin prescription, but was a little
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: dishonest with the pharmacy about the reason for it. It
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: was an on-label prescription. In other words, it was for
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: parasites or whatever the drug was invented for but truly
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: the doctor wanted to give it to her patient because
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: of covid yeah she had her license suspended without even
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: a hearing and it did the courts just well found
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: that her due process rights were violated but i was
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: reading it and remembering the insanity we were going through
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: back then like the pharmacies not being able to fill
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: prescriptions doctors being told they couldn't have one-on-one consultations with
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: their payments about alternative uh theories people being told they
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: must take a vaccine that had emergency use authorization swirling
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: around it and Ignoring natural immunity as an equal protection
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: from COVID. In fact, natural immunity prevents you from getting it.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: This shot didn't.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: And that's why convalescent plasma was an important part early on.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: You had patients that got COVID and they didn't die.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: They got through it. Now they have the antibodies. You
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: still have to match blood type and things like that,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: but you could take that. You donate your plasma. And
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: then you give that to another patient that has COVID,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: and they were recovering. The Cincinnati Enquirer even did a
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: piece on somebody who got convalescent plasma in Cincinnati. He said,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: I was better the next day. I was in ICU,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: but I got better the next day. And we pushed
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: that aside, too, because it was all pushing of vaccines.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: And threatening to fire him from his job if he
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: didn't get a vaccine, in spite of the fact that
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: that particular treatment worked. And he had the natural antibodies,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: like I have. I went through bad COVID and, you know,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: they tested me about a year or so later and
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: my body was filled with antibodies.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: I was told that I needed a booster to go
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: to Germany for security conference. And I said, well, let's
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: check my antibodies and T cells, but they couldn't do
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: T cells.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: So I had been vaccinated and I got COVID and
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: I only knew that because I couldn't smell garlic salt.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: And I got my labs back. Strong number was 40.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: My number was 821.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: There you have it. Don't go away. One more with
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: Brad Winstrip. I hope you can stick around. It's 746
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: right now, 55KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 4: 55KRC.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not great with facial. 750, 55KRC, the talk station.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Before we get back to Brad Winstrip, we're going to
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: get ourselves a Crime Stopper Bad Guy of the Week.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the 55KRC Morning Show. Tiffany Green, Officer
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Green with Cincinnati Police Department, doing great work for the
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: citizens of the city of Cincinnati. And time for us
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: to help with getting this bad guy Tiffany Green, welcome back.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Who are we looking for today?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 8: Thank you, Brian.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: Good morning.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 8: Cincinnati Police District 2 is looking for Jeremy Baer.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: Mr.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 8: Bear is wanted for felony strangulation and misdemeanor domestic violence.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 8: On August 22nd of 2026, during a domestic dispute, Bear
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 8: forcibly put his hands against the victim's face and throat,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 8: making it difficult for the victim to breathe. Jeremy Bear
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 8: is a white male. He's 50 years old. He's 6
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 8: foot and 165 pounds. Jeremy Bear has an arrest history
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 8: of drug offenses and was last known to live on
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 8: Gilbert Avenue.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 9: In Wanne Hills.
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  Speaker 8: If anyone has information on where police can find Jeremy Bear,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 8: please call Crime Stoppers at 513-352-3040 or submit a tip
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 8: online at crime-stoppers.us.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: You'll be eligible for a cash reward if your tip
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: leaves to an arrest. His picture is right there on
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: my blog page, 55k2c. com, so you can keep your eyes
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: peeled for him. And let's hope my listening audience can
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: find this guy and make Cincinnati a safer place. Officer Green,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: thank you for what you do and the Cincinnati Police
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: Department does each and every day. We've all here on
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: the morning show got your back. 751, Brad. China RX,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: your Bible for the past how many years? You mentioned
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: that off air. It's a book you have relied on,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: and it's a real eye-opener, I understand.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: Well, it is, and it's a shame it hasn't gotten
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: more attention. I mean, I first became familiar with it
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: when I was still in uniform, and I was working
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: with the Defense Logistics Medical Supply Chain Council, where we're
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: vulnerable as far as having the medicines that we need.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Something else we revealed from COVID, we found out the
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Chinese are the ones that make all of our pharmaceuticals,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: including the ones for military.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, some of us realized it before, but COVID
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: really brought it to our attention because we couldn't. We
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: couldn't get personal protective equipment that we don't control. That
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: we didn't need. Well, masks we didn't need, right?
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 4: But other things that we do need. And it also
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: brought forward that, you know, we clearly have a pharmaceutical problem.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: So this was there already. I mean, in my practice,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: I noticed, you know, as time was going by and
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: say in the last 10 to 12 years or, well,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: probably longer than that, What do you mean I can't
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: get this antibiotic? What do you mean I can't get this?
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: The problem we had today is we let this get
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: out of our control. And think about this for the military.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: For the military, we debated several years ago that the
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: running shoes that we dispense to new recruits when they
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: join the military has to be 100% domestic. Well, I'm
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: all in favor of that. That's fine. But what about
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 4: the drugs we use on the battlefield? Why aren't they 100% domestic,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: which obviously is a national security risk if we don't
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: control that? And what has happened over the years is
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: China controls that. They control the active pharmaceutical ingredients. So
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: even if something's coming from India, likely the basic ingredients
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: came from China. Now, it's something that I am working
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 4: on on the side now that I'm in the private
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: sector is getting more of these things created domestically. But
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: this is a national security risk. But I want to
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: hit home with some of this, too. The FDA is
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: not over in China the way they are here. to
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: make sure that the quality persists.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: We had a problem with heparin years ago. Remember that? Yes, exactly.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Outdoor vats of pig blood, which is what's used to
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: make heparin, unsanitary conditions.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: So it became tainted. 250 Americans died from that, Brian.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: Now think about heparin is this classic example of what
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: China has been doing. China bought Smith Meal Foods. What
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: is that? That is pork.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: That is what's in your sausage. Across the country, McDonald's,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: wherever you're getting it, they are a big supplier of
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: all of those things. The other component of that is
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: you need, I forget how many hogs you actually need
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: to garner what's needed to create heparin. So they're the
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: ones creating the heparin, which is a life-saving drug as
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: it prevents clots, right?
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: Now you have 250 Americans dying because it came from
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: China and the quality was bad. And it's all controlled
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: by China. From nature to the product to the consumer.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: And the opportunity for sabotage across all of our generic
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: drugs is huge.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: And since she's listening this morning and really wanted you
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: and I to talk about the COVID-19 vaccine causing clots.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: So let's put this all together. Maureen, for your benefit,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: you get the COVID-19 vaccine, which she's convinced causes clots,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: which will kill you. So in order to prevent those clots,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: you get the heparin that was made outside in China,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: which will kill you, and you can't get it.
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  Speaker 4: Or it's sabotaged. The circle of life. All these things
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  Speaker 4: are in play. They're not stupid. They've been doing these
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  Speaker 4: things for years to get control. What we see in
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  Speaker 4: the pharmaceutical industry today is they have been very good
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: at making drugs. They now are reaching out to small
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: innovators in particular. In other words, small innovators of new drugs,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: new cures, and things like that, and saying, we can
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: do your research for less. And so when you don't
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: have much money, and you're a startup, and you're going,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: let's go to China. I work with a bioscience company,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: and I have an email under their name. I started
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: getting things from Wuji App.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 4: Saying, we can do your research for you. Are you
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: doing this? Are you doing that? We can do your
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: research for you for less. And people are doing it.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: The China committee in Congress, led by John Molnar of Michigan,
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  Speaker 4: is like, no. That's what the Biosecure Act was about.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: With Biosecure, all we were really able to do is say,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: there will be no federal money going to any of
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: these entities for any type of research, etc., and they
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: were vetted, and they pose a risk to our national security.
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  Speaker 4: We've got to do more.
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  Speaker 1: More, most assuredly, and I'm glad you're on the job
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: and minding the store for all of us, Brad Winstrup.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: Appreciate your willingness to spend the hour here in the studio,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: and don't be a stranger, man. You know you always
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: have a welcome opportunity to talk about these important issues
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: here on the 55Kers.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's about caring for the American people.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: I know it is, and I know how passionate you
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: are about that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we want Americans to be free, to be safe,
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  Speaker 4: and we want the next generation to thank us for
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: what we're doing today.
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  Speaker 1: Amen to that, brother. Good to see you, man. Congressman
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  Speaker 1: David Taylor, he's still a congressman. He's going to join
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: the program after the top of the hour news. And
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network coming up at 8.30.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: I sure hope you can stick around. At the top
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: of the hour, get the top stories of the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: As promised, it's Friday. Very happy Friday, everybody. But as promised,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: he is ready to talk. Congressman David Taylor proudly representing
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: Ohio's 2nd District. Congressman Taylor, great to have you back
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: on the program, sir. Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 5: Happy Friday to you, Brian. Thanks for having me back on.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand you've been hard at work in your
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: district during the August recess. What have you been up to,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Congressman Taylor?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely. It's been a great month, Brian. I mean, the
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 5: Ohio 2nd District is a beautiful place, and I've seen
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: a lot of it in the last month. I've been
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 5: to a lot of county fairs and also the state fair,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: which is not quite in the district, but close. But
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 5: there's so much great stuff going on in the second
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 5: district from businesses and visiting with farmers. I went up
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: to look at the Andrill facility in Pickaway County, which
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 5: I was there with Senator Husted and Representative Mike Carey.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 5: And that's just an amazing facility. The future of unmanned
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: fighter jet and drone technology is going to be coming
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: largely from that location. I recently got to go to
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  Speaker 5: the Bigfoot Festival in Benton County on the other end
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: of the district, which was a lot of fun. And
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: everybody's favorite man, the Turtle Man, was there. I got
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: to visit with him and also got to go out
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: to the Kenworth facility where they build about 85% of
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: their trucks right in Ross County, Ohio. And that was
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: a great visit with Administrator Zeldin of the EPA and
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 5: Senator Husted again. But basically, we've been crisscrossing the district,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: visiting farms and fire departments and police departments and you
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: name it. It's been a great, great month.
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  Speaker 1: What are the constituents saying to you? You know, I
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: just got to ask you with this crazy, and you know,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: in my lifetime, I cannot believe we're at a point
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: in this nation's history where people actually taking communism's masked
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: as Democrat socialists seriously, but their recipe for success is
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster without question economically in terms of
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: freedoms and liberty erosion. But I guess since it seems to,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: we are given the impression that this is becoming more
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: and more wildly popular with the El Sayeds and the
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Mamdamis of the world. Do you get a sense from,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the regular people you're talking to, the working people,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: the people that are showing up at these events, where
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: are they on this? Are they concerned? Are they embracing it?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: What's your sense of the water temperature, Congressman?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, sir. I've been encouraged by what appears to be
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: the response of the folks in the 2nd District, which is,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: you know, Sort of the knee-jerk response was when we
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: see these lunatics win primaries, we say, oh, boy, we
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: can celebrate. There's no way these people can win a
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: general election. Well, I think people are recognizing the 2nd
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: District and hopefully everywhere that if they don't take it
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  Speaker 5: very seriously, these lunatics can win in the general election.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: We've got at least a couple generations left. of young
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 5: people who've been basting in this nonsense and their educational
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: opportunities from, you know, basically from the time they get
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: into school. So there is more appetite out there than
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: people realize. And if we don't get out there and
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 5: exercise our right to vote, they will win. You know,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 5: it's you don't want to mess with. It's an ideology
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: that you can vote in, but you can't vote out.
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  Speaker 5: That's the only one way to get them back out.
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  Speaker 1: That is a wonderful way of boiling it down. I
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: think that's outstanding. My worry is, and we've talked about
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: this a lot on the morning show, and I've talked
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: about it with a lot of people I've interacted with
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: out in the public in terms of What seems to
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: be this lack of enthusiasm, and notably here in Ohio,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: I keep going back to the Ramaswamy acting race and
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: polls are polls and they can be manipulated. And my
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: listening audience doesn't have a whole lot of faith in them.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: But the idea that in regular polls, time after time,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: they're neck and neck. I just that concern that you
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: obviously have for the direction of the nation, the idea
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: that you can't unring the commie bell once it's installed.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: If you sit down and you don't go vote, that's
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: what we're getting into. A lack of a vote, that
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: enthusiasm translated into not going in to vote or not
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: voting in any particular race just because the person isn't
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: perfect in your mind is going to let the other
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: guy or gal win, and that's dangerous.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I say that. Honestly, I see more enthusiasm
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: than those kind of polls would reflect. But it's important
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: that people realize that there is a real threat here.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 5: And if they don't go out and exercise their vote,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 5: that they're going to end up in a situation that
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 5: they didn't anticipate and that's extremely negative. But I don't
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: concern myself too much with polls, like you said, Brian.
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  Speaker 5: I don't believe they're meaningful. I think we saw a
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: lot of that in the primaries where the polling was
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 5: so wildly off. So I don't worry myself too much
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: with that, but I do think the enthusiasm is there,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: and I think the messaging of the Democrats should be
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 5: driving more enthusiasm for us, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just simply voting out of fear and concern for
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: the future of America. I mean, that's enough to drive
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: my butt to the polls, but then again, I regularly
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: vote because I think it's an important civic duty, and
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: I'm blessed to have the ability to steer the direction
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: of this country to the extent I have an impact
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: on it. I guess, can I ask you, have you
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: encountered the data center conversation, which seems to be divisive,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: although not necessarily party line divisive? It looks like both
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: sides of the political ledger are joining on the bandwagon
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: of like, whoa, we need to pause. We need to
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: put the brakes on this. But as I regularly point out,
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  Speaker 1: I presume you'll agree with me, Congressman, is the genie
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: of AI is out of the bottle. We must be
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: able to control it here in the United States and
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: not capitulate to the Chinese Communist Party. Data centers are
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: a key element to that, but they're also a key
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: element to the Internet working, generally speaking.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, 100 percent. You know, from military applications to medical
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: applications to, as we say, just general technology growth in general.
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  Speaker 5: I'm for local control. There are One of my big
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 5: concerns with the federal government and my role in it
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: is I think it's way too big. I think the
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 5: federal government exercises authority it doesn't have in many areas.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: So I'm not looking to impose the federal government's will
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 5: on where these data centers go. Local people have every
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: right to say no, but I do want local people
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 5: to make sure they know what they're saying no to.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of upsides. There's a lot of propaganda
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: that's been proven to come from China where China's building
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 5: as fast as they can and they'd like us to
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: stop building them because that would be a huge advantage
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: for them. All those things being said, you do not
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: have to have one in your backyard if that is
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 5: the will of the people in your yard. But I
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: do think we have a lot of great places like
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 5: the Pike County facility around the old, not old, it's
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: new again, the centrist facility out there. is an ideal
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: place for the data centers that are coming there. But
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 5: not every place is ideal for it. But as you said,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: we do have to have them. We have to be
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 5: extremely careful and thoughtful about where we put them and
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 5: make sure that we're transparent with the people about the impact.
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  Speaker 3: In their area.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I am of the mind that the Out loud
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: concerns voiced by any local community relate to noise, relates
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: to water use and power consumption. And I know, for example,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: like many candidates are talking about, no, we can address
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: those up front. We can deal with the noise up
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: front and insist on noise reduction and regulations. We can
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: deal with the water issues up front, like insisting on
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: perhaps a closed loop cooling system, which doesn't use vast
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: quantities of water, while pointing out that the next door
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: golf course uses 300,000 gallons a day. So just an
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: aside on that. And we can deal with the energy uses.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: And going back to small modular reactors, grease the skids
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: from a federal regulation standpoint to allow these off-the-shelf, comparatively
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: inexpensive reactors to generate enough power for the facility, but
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: also maybe provide the local community with additional extra power
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: reducing our bills. Those can be addressed up front. I
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: think those are a distraction from people's broader concerns about
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: the technology itself, the jobs that will disappear, and the
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: nefarious things AI can be used for. But you can't
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: make that go away, can you?
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: No, and every time those technologies have come along in
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: the past, advances and this or that that sometimes eliminate
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: some jobs end up creating other ones. And as you said,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: the power question, the water question, and the noise question,
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 5: those are have been largely dealt with in most areas.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 5: We're seeing these companies very willing to pay for and
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: provide their own power. And just like you said, I'd
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 5: like to see them maybe propose, you're required to produce 20%
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: more energy than you're going to consume, and that goes
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 5: to the grid to sort of keep down the prices
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: of the ratepayers in the area, especially in a very
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: poor part of the country like the 2nd District of Ohio. Yeah,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: I agree with you 100%.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: All right, getting back to Congressman Taylor's local issues for
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: his district, we're going to talk about what happened at
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: the Claremont County Chamber meeting he had the other day,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: what was discussed more with Congressman David Taylor. Stick around.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: It's 815 right now, 55KRC, the talk station. 55KRC. 55KRC,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: the talk station. It is 819 here at 55KRC, the
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: talk station. Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network joining
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: the program and the next segment. In the meantime, we
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: had the benefit of Congressman David Taylor. talking about the issues.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: And we'll go back to local issues, sir. The Claremont
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: County Chamber, you had a meeting with them the other day.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: What did you guys talk about?
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: It was focused on transportation and infrastructure. They wanted to
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: talk more about the new surface reauthorization package that we
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: passed out of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, which was
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: a very bipartisan bill out of committee with 62 to 2.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: So It's a good bill. It's been $ 580 billion over
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: the next five years. And honestly, I think the consensus
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 5: in the room was that as big a number as
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: that is in something like transportation infrastructure, we'd like to
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: see it a little bit bigger. But it's still great stuff.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: It's the biggest bridge investment in history, the Rail Safety
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 5: Act included. Finally, it adds at least one more piece
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: of funding to the Highway Trust Fund, making electric vehicles
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: pay a registration fee. It moves back to a real
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 5: focus on traditional infrastructure, focused on roads and bridges. For
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 5: the 2nd District, my big ask, and it's definitely a
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: big one, was to get support from the federal government
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: for the I-73 project, which would sort of go right
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: up through the middle of the 2nd District and through
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: Ohio and into Michigan. And it ends on the southern
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: end in South Carolina. It's been on the books for
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: a long time, but there's sort of some traction for
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 5: it now. The Ohio Department of Transportation is doing a
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 5: feasibility study that is due out in October, or I'm sorry,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 5: in December. And we're hoping to get a positive report there.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: And I've spoken to Secretary Duffy a couple times on that,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: and he's got a lot of interest in it and,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: you know, It's not something that you or I may
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 5: get to drive on, but we've got to get started
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: on some point.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a new interstate is what you're saying, I-73? Yeah.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: It runs up the State Route 23, sort of that area.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: It will run right past the big nuclear and the
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 5: pipes and facility run right past Anduril that we talked
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: about earlier and also help our farmers get their crops
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: to the Ohio River, which is their main conduit to
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 5: the market at large. So also, you know, sort of
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: unload I-71 and 75 through Cincinnati, which even when the
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 5: new bridge is completed, it's still going to be a bottleneck.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 5: So it's got a lot of benefits. You know, of course,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: a project like that comes with a million headaches to boot.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: Right, like land acquisition costs, because you're going to have
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: to acquire the land from private ownership, aren't you?
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: In a lot of cases, for sure.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that comes with a huge price tag.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess we'll see down the road on that one. But,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: you know, like the federal highway system has demonstrated, if
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: you build a road like that, it comes with a
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: lot of on and off ramps, which are ideal spots
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: for the creation of new business and industry, which, of course,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: leads to greater tax dollars and employment.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 5: Exactly. You know, and there are... So much business coming
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 5: to the 2nd District. I don't think you're going to
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: recognize the 2nd District from an economic standpoint five or
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 5: seven years from now. But if we had that interstate,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 5: it goes through several existing towns, and you can sort
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 5: of shepherd that kind of growth you're talking about into
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 5: places that already developed and maintain the role and agriculture
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 5: character for the district that we know and love. A
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 5: lot of people are there for that very reason because
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 5: that's the lifestyle they love. You can have both if
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 5: you're playing ahead. We've got seven, eight generation farms out
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 5: there that we don't want to ever lose. And that
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 5: can be done with enough foresight.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: Well, the half a trillion dollars roughly that you mentioned,
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: it goes along with this infrastructure work. Does the federal
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: government in allocating these dollars get some say into what
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: can be funded with that money, or is that up
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: to the states? Because, you know, here I am hearing
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: you talk about infrastructure and seeing exactly what happened with
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: California's so-called high-speed rail project, which has already gone through
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: billions of dollars and yet has not laid a single
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: mile of track. Is part of my taxpayer federal dollars
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: going to go to that project, or is there going
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: to be some oversight?
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 5: There is oversight, Brian, for sure. But also there is,
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: you know, it's a double-edged sword. They lean into the
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 5: formula funding, which I think is good in states like Ohio,
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  Speaker 5: where the closer you are to the problem, the better
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  Speaker 5: you are at solving it, the more responsible you are
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 5: with the dollars, typically. In states like Ohio, it's not
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  Speaker 5: always the case. But we're leaning more into the dollars
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 5: being allocated to the states and the states having more
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 5: control over where they go. That doesn't necessarily mean they're
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 5: going to get a bunch more money because of one
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 5: particular project, which is the case with the high-speed rail,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 5: which is a terrible boondoggle in California. But in general,
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 5: I'm always for keeping the dollars as close to the
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  Speaker 5: problem as possible because the people that are impacted the
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 5: most by it want to get the most bang out
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 5: of their buck fixing it typically.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed. Congressman Davidson, I certainly appreciate the time you spent
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: with my listeners and me this morning, and I ask
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  Speaker 1: you to keep up the good work looking out for
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  Speaker 1: Ohio as well as the American taxpayer, and we need
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: more of that. I look forward to talking with you
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: again real soon, Congressman, and I hope you will have
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: a wonderful week and time between now and the next
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: opportunity for us to speak.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, buddy. Have a great weekend.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: You do the same. Enjoy the weather. Congressman David Taylor.
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• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: welcome back man happy friday.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 9: Hey absolutely you're right uh brian honored to be here
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 9: thank you for choosing me i appreciate.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: It all right well why don't you introduce to my
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: listening audience and i gotta sadly admit to me as
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: well the saga going on with ishmael muhammad um not
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: real hip to this ohio state representative i haven't necessarily
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: cross his name. If I did, I don't remember reading
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: about him, but something involving $ 90, 000, Jack Windsor.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 9: So I'll tell you kind of how we saw this,
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 9: the gap in financing, how the math isn't mathing. There's
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 9: a house, there's a residency question now. So I'll try
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 9: to hit these at the high levels. And then why
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 9: in the world does this matter to Cincinnati listeners? And
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 9: I'll get to that. But Ishmael Muhammad is a state
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 9: rep out of Columbus District 3. They call that the
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 9: Northland area here. And December 2024, his campaign files a report.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 9: By the way, he's an officeholder and seeking his third term,
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 9: I believe. And his December 2024 campaign report shows $ 97, 000
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 9: on hand. Okay. The next report his campaign files shows $ 3, 408.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: 11 on hand.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 9: So there's a difference there between $ 93, 729. 71. And the filings
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 9: don't account for that amount. And there's no report in between.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 9: And these are his committee's own numbers, by the way,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 9: filed with the Secretary of State. Anybody can pull them.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 9: And the gap, the 2025 annual report was due at
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 9: the end of January. It did not get filed until
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 9: June 23rd of this year. So if my understanding of
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 9: timelines are correct, that's five months late. And there's a
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 9: pre-primary report that's due. Candidates are supposed to file that.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 9: The idea is that people can see into their finances
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 9: who's backing this person, right? The pre-primary report got filed
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 9: that same day. So keep in mind, that's June 23rd.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 9: The primary was May 5th. So voters in that district
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 9: voted with no disclosures at all. And when the reports
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 9: finally showed up, that's where the red flag goes up
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 9: and the pre-primary report does not reconcile. They brought $ 0 forward, Brian, uh, $ 1, 000.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 9: They show coming in $ 2, 500 going out. So somehow they
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 9: got upside down $ 1, 500. And, uh, the report, uh, before
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 9: it closed was at $ 108 and 11 cents. And the
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 9: next one starts at zero. So the numbers don't work
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 9: and you go, okay, uh, Where did that $ 93, 729 go? Well,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 9: we don't know yet. Now, let me tell you how
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 9: it gets even a little bit more topsy-turvy. October 2025,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 9: in the middle of that reporting gap, Muhammad buys a
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 9: house in Delaware County. Keep in mind, Franklin County and
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 9: then Delaware County is above it. He buys a house
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 9: for $ 587, 000, $ 528, 300 mortgage, $ 58, 750. down in cash.
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised it wasn't $ 90, 000.
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  Speaker 9: What's that?
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised the down wasn't $ 90, 000, Jack.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, you're getting there.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 9: And so that's on the conveyance form at Delaware County
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 9: Auditor's Office. On the form, he answered yes under penalty
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 9: of perjury to whether the property will be the owner's
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 9: principal resident by January 1. His district's in Franklin County.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 9: But his paperwork says his primary residence is in Delaware County.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 9: And by the way, it's a $ 587, 000 home. And here's
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 9: what I'm not saying. I'm not saying the campaign money
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 9: bought the house. I can't say it, won't say it.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 9: But the records show a sequence of $ 93, 729. 71 unaccounted for,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 9: a $ 58, 700 cash payment during that reporting gap, and late
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 9: filings that don't reconcile. So that's why there is a
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 9: complaint in front of the Secretary of State, his opponents,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 9: in this race, Bernadine Kennedy Kent, former lawmaker who was
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 9: a Democrat, is now a Republican, is running against him,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 9: and has filed this complaint after she discovered, wait a minute,
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 9: there's a significant gap here in reporting. So why does
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 9: this matter to people in Cincinnati? Well, because he votes
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 9: on the state budget, on Medicaid, and he's one of
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 9: 99 people that make decisions on behalf of all Ohioans,
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 9: and a lot of people have questions. Where's the $ 93, 000?
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 9: How did you afford a half a million dollar house
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 9: at a 70 some thousand dollar salary as a lawmaker?
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's just a lot that needs to be asked.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 9: I've posed those are actually in the process of posing
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 9: those questions to Ishmael Muhammad. And I've given him until
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 9: I believe it's Tuesday at five o'clock to respond.
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  Speaker 1: And I expect your expectations are low on him actually
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: responding to you, Jack.
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  Speaker 9: Extremely low. I don't know if they could be lower. Actually,
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 9: believing the Browns are going to the Super Bowl might
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 9: be a smidge lower than than believing that Ishmael Muhammad
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  Speaker 9: will respond by Tuesday at 5.
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  Speaker 1: Well played on that one. But real quickly here, I'm
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: wildly curious and burning to ask this question. I wrote
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: it down. As soon as you said it, he hadn't
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: timely filed his financial disclosures in advance of the primary.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a penalty for that, Jack? I mean, does
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: anything befall a candidate who doesn't properly follow the rules?
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  Speaker 9: That is a great question, and I'm going to fall
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 9: on my sword and tell you a couple of things. Well,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 9: the direct answer is I don't know. And the reason
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 9: I don't know is, if you'll remember, there used to
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 9: be the Ohio Election Commission. That went away recently, and
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 9: now the auditing of campaign finance stuff is really under
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 9: the roof of the Ohio Secretary of State's office. They
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 9: have an investigatory unit. I'm not quite sure if all
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 9: of the rules that applied with the Ohio Election Commission
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 9: have fully rolled over yet. to that investigative unit. Uh,
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  Speaker 9: but I also know in the past, the secretary of
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 9: state has tried to work with candidates that used to
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 9: be the messaging, right? Like we're not trying to gotcha
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 9: with everybody. Sometimes it's hard to understand how this works
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 9: and what needs to be done. So oftentimes they've tried
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 9: to work with people until they can't. So I'm not
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 9: quite sure exactly what the letter of the law rule is,
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 9: but you know, you have timelines and report requirements for
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 9: a reason, and it is written either into the Ohio
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 9: revised code. or it is required by an opinion rendered
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 9: by the current Secretary of State, and that has authority.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 9: Not quite sure where the complaint is in its process,
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 9: but we're going to be working with the Secretary of
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 9: State's office to try to figure all those things out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would say that's pretty damn critical information going
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: into a primary that voters should have had in advance, Jack.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: And is that why we have deadlines? Well, I'm glad
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: you're on it. Listen, maybe at minimum, this will become
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: a cautionary tale for other politicians who try to play
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: fast and loose with deadlines. So Get to the bottom
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: of it. I know you will. Theohiopressnetwork.com is where you'll
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: find Jack. And we're going to bring Jack back to
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: talk about, well, if you read it on the Internet,
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: it's true. I know Abraham Lincoln said that. Does that
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: also hold for bot posts that media would rely on
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: to assert as fact?
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: You know the answer.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: To that question. Jack's going to dive into that topic
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: coming up next. Stick around. That's a fascinating story you
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: talked about with Ismail Mohamed. I can't wait to find
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: out what's going on with that. Let us pivot over. Tiffin, Ohio.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: There's a Tiffin, Ohio progressive blog, Jack.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Great site, man. They love me over there.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 9: I mean, for those of you who don't know, I
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 9: am everything that all the political operatives would want you
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 9: to think that I am so that you don't listen
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 9: to me. and believe a word that comes out of
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 9: my mouth.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 9: That is the end game.
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  Speaker 1: There's no such thing as bad press, Jack. You know,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: people will listen to you merely because the Ohio progressive
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: blog has mentioned your name.
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  Speaker 9: You know, I, I say it this way, a little
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 9: tongue in cheek. When they throw a grenade at a
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 9: guy telling the truth, fair-minded people go, Hmm, I don't
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 9: think the guy they threw the grenade at is the problem.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 9: I think they have a problem with the truth. Um,
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 9: But anyway, I digress. So it's a site called tiffinohio.net.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 9: Looks like a local paper in Seneca County, right? If
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 9: you're unsuspecting. Their terms of service, though, say that they're
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 9: operated in Illinois, headquartered in Chicago. They're for profit. And
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 9: their donation page tells you it's not tax deductible if
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 9: you contribute, right? So for profit. And on their homepage,
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 9: it says they're a pro-democracy newsroom. And you go, well,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 9: that sounds good. Oh, with progressive commentary. Okay, interesting. But
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 9: they're an out-of-state for-profit, really dressed up as Ohio local news.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 9: At least the label's honest, if you take the time
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 9: to read the fine print. So now, why does this matter?
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 9: A couple of things. I want to talk about their bylines,
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 9: their pipeline, their index, their founder, and the robocalls, if
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 9: I have time. But here's what I'll tell you. They
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 9: use AI. And it appears I have had lived experience
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 9: with a bot pretending to be a reporter. I've been
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 9: reached out to by a guy by the name of
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 9: Dave Miller. His bio says he's a journalist based in
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 9: Northwest Ohio. I asked for a phone call just to
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 9: verify that. Wouldn't do it. And then I asked three
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 9: separate times in writing, Dave, are you a human or
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 9: are you software?
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 5: No answer.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: That's a giveaway.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 9: And then you look at their pipeline. Here's how this works.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 9: I'm talking about, I'm going to put this under the
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 9: banner of Democrat operative machine, right?
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 9: So a couple of examples. Number one, we talked about
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 9: this before, but here's how it works. August 13th, a
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 9: sub stack piece attacking Vivek Ramaswamy goes out and it's
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 9: from a progressive blogger. And then it's picked up by
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 9: tiffinohio.net three separate times. Then It's a press release on
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 9: Amy Acton's campaign website. Then the Democrat Governors Association puts
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 9: it into a TV ad pretending it's a legitimate news article,
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 9: airing it all over Ohio, including Cincinnati. So it goes
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 9: like this, blog to site to the campaign to your TV.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 9: And by the way, I've chronicled all of that. It's
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 9: all saved. And it's not just them writing. Their front
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 9: page now carries bylines from the Ohio Capitol Journal, and
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 9: other state's news reporters, state's newsroom reporters. So they kind
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 9: of have this progressive ecosystem in full bloom. But here's
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 9: what's interesting. I just tried to do a cursory count,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 9: and quickly I was able to come up with 176
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 9: stories tagging Vivek Ramaswamy, 118 Gary Click. He's the two-county
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 9: state rep there. He's got more stories than a sitting U.S. senator,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 9: John Husted at 92, 36 stories about Max Miller, 19
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 9: about Rodney Creech. And by the way, those are all Republicans.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 9: And they're not good stories. Oh, and by the way,
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 9: yours truly has been written about three times because apparently
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 9: I'm doing something that really has triggered their AI bots.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 9: The founder of this site, registered Democrat in Seneca County,
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 9: Marion Starr reported that in 2020, worked for Sherrod Brown's campaign,
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 9: the Ohio Democratic Party, Obama's reelection. His company's portfolio carries
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 9: both the Seneca County Democrat Party site and this tiffinohio.net site.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 9: So you have all of that to say you have this,
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 9: what appears to be a local newsroom, is really part
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 9: of this Democrat operative network of propaganda purveyors. That's my opinion.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's a legitimate one, but let me just
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: extrapolate from that. And I've warned about this all the time,
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: and maybe some people are rolling their eyes in disbelief
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: or think I'm some kind of loon job. The foes
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: we have out in the world, like, for example, the
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party, do the same damn thing. I mean,
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: This is what they are about.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 9: And if there's any doubt, I'm not going to play
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 9: it today. I've still got to compile and edit some things.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 9: They're doing robocalls now, or at least robocalls are being
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 9: done in their name. So their AI voices, one called
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 9: me last night, identified itself as a reporter with tiffinohio.net,
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 9: called itself Jennifer. Biggest, burliest Jennifer I've ever heard because
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 9: it was a voice deeper than mine.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: But it was a bot. WNBA.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, there it is. Yes.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 9: It's Ennis Cantor Freedom. That's who it was. So a
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 9: bot with a male voice and then other calls claiming
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 9: to be citizens telling me I need to pay for
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 9: my crimes.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 9: So I'm getting these bot calls now. But what I'm
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 9: not going to do is I'm not going to tell
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 9: you Tiffin, Ohio, place the calls because the voice claims
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 9: that it's a reporter. But that that leaves me with
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 9: two possibilities. Either the outlet is robo calling a reporter
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 9: who covers them. or somebody is impersonating their newsroom. Either way, Brian,
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 9: that's a story. So I'm reaching out to tiffinohio.net to
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 9: ask them, are you employing these AI bots? And do
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 9: you have a dude named Jennifer? Or is this somebody
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 9: impersonating you? And I'll let you know. Now, here's the
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 9: other part. I need to add this in because it's important.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 9: I believe that these folks are coordinating when you look
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 9: at Sherrod Brown's sharing their information, Amy Acton. So the
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 9: bigger picture, I put questions out in writing to Acton,
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 9: to Pepper, to Sherrod Brown and to the outlet itself.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 9: And the question is, do you fund, coordinate with, or
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 9: support one another in this 2026 election cycle? None of
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 9: them have answered, Brian. Not one has denied it.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: Silence is most notably deafening on that, Jack Windsor. And
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: we all know what that means. It's kind of like
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: Fauci taking the fifth, isn't it?
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 9: I'm going to give them until Tuesday at five to
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 9: answer all of them again. So, you know, here's where
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 9: it stands. Coverage is running in one direction on that site.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 9: AI calls claiming to be their newsroom for Democrat operations
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 9: that won't answer yes or no. So, you know, people
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 9: talk about this machine all the time. I wanted to
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 9: share this with you because I wanted to show you
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 9: the parts.
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  Speaker 1: This is real and it's happening right here and it
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  Speaker 1: starts in a little place called Tiffin and he's documented it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he does. And I guess you have revealed,
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  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor, something that I don't ever do, which is
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  Speaker 1: you answer phone calls from numbers that you don't recognize.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get on that road.
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  Speaker 9: It's como esta? Hola, como esta? And then you have
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  Speaker 9: no idea what to do. And then they start, you know,
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  Speaker 9: AI getting angry at me and it was kind of fun,
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  Speaker 9: but the recordings are great. I'll send you some.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should. I think I would enjoy hearing what
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  Speaker 1: you went through. And again, I will avoid the entire
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  Speaker 1: process just by not picking up the phone. One more
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  Speaker 1: with Jack Windsor, John Houston and the data centers, 847
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  Speaker 1: and 55 KRC talk station.
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  Speaker 5: 55 KRC.
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  Speaker 1: Listen up, team. It is 8.51. It is Friday at 8.51.
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  Speaker 1: One more segment here with Jack Windsor from the OhioPressNetwork.com.
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  Speaker 1: Pivoting over, it's all the rage these days to, well,
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  Speaker 1: demonize artificial intelligence data centers. And I'm of the mind,
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  Speaker 1: and I've even mentioned it this morning earlier, as I
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  Speaker 1: have quite a few times, Jack. I really don't think
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  Speaker 1: this has anything to do with power, water, or noise.
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  Speaker 1: I think it has to do with people's overall fear
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  Speaker 1: of artificial intelligence generally. You can deal with the power
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  Speaker 1: noise and water issues with all the technology we have
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  Speaker 1: these days. Maybe small modular reactors are the solution. But
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  Speaker 1: if a company can generate its own power, alleviating the
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  Speaker 1: concerns about increased power costs, and, of course, insulation can
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  Speaker 1: handle the noise, and if you don't need all the
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  Speaker 1: water they're worried about, what's left? It's fear of AI,
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  Speaker 1: and it's out of the bottle. The genie is we
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  Speaker 1: have to deal with it. We need to control it.
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  Speaker 1: So what's going on with the Husted race, and how
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  Speaker 1: is it impacting that race?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Great, great question. I stumbled upon a poll, an internal poll.
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  Speaker 9: Someone shared with me, and I'm not going to leak
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  Speaker 9: the source, but there's a poll that had Al-Qaeda's approval
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  Speaker 9: at 18%, data centers at 15%. So that's the issue
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  Speaker 9: you're dealing with here. You have a terror cell group
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  Speaker 9: with higher support than data centers. And so it really is,
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  Speaker 9: what do they call it? Radioactive. It's a radioactive political issue.
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  Speaker 9: But right now, Sherrod Brown and the Democrats are really
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  Speaker 9: trying to frame this up as Republicans want this. Republicans
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  Speaker 9: treat businesses well at the expense of citizens, and this
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  Speaker 9: is their fault. What's really intriguing to me about that,
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  Speaker 9: and we can kind of talk about the specifics of
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  Speaker 9: the race if you want. What's intriguing to me about that, Brian,
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  Speaker 9: is that Sherrod Brown is actually the veterans. I get
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  Speaker 9: that John Husted is the senator. I mean, he's been
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  Speaker 9: there long enough to find the bathrooms, essentially. And so,
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  Speaker 9: you know, he's two years in and Sherrod Brown is
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  Speaker 9: acting like he never celebrated that. centers being built in
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  Speaker 9: Ohio and wasn't part of the, you know, political leadership
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  Speaker 9: over the past three decades, two decades, one decade when
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  Speaker 9: these things totally prospered. So it's a little bit weird
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  Speaker 9: to me. And really, politics is about optics and messaging.
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  Speaker 9: And right now, the Democrats seem to have the lever there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, those who study the history of political candidates can
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: find in revealing quotes and revealing support for something they
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  Speaker 1: claim never to have been supported. You got woke one.
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  Speaker 1: We don't believe in that stuff anymore. We're here out
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  Speaker 1: front telling you that that's the old days. We're just
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: joking around. Nonsense. I mean, that's just a bunch of crap.
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  Speaker 1: You're just adjusting your political posture for the moment in time,
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: dealing with the flavor of the moment in terms of constituents' attitudes.
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  Speaker 1: But you are on record, are you not?
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  Speaker 9: You are. And, you know, Sherrod Brown was celebrating data
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  Speaker 9: centers when they started popping up. And right now, you know,
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  Speaker 9: we talked about this last week. According to Fox's poll,
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  Speaker 9: he has an eight point lead, 51 percent favorability. And
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  Speaker 9: Husted is at 43 percent with 53 percent unfavorable. So
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  Speaker 9: he's upside down. And the number that matters is 11
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  Speaker 9: percent of Republicans say that they're voting for Brown. That
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  Speaker 9: is that's the deal.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know, Brian. And listen, people know my striping.
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  Speaker 9: I don't pretend to be something I'm not. I'm actually
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  Speaker 9: not a hardcore conservative. I'm probably more libertarian. I don't
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  Speaker 9: get how you can look at a guy who's done
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  Speaker 9: nothing but try to build big government. and think that
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  Speaker 9: if you're a Republican, that's the guy that you want
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  Speaker 9: to go with. I don't understand that thinking.
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  Speaker 1: I don't either. Again, I keep going, don't throw away
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  Speaker 1: the good for the sake of the perfect. You don't
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 1: have a perfect candidate literally anywhere, including, of course, Sherrod
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  Speaker 1: Brown with all his wards. Where is the messaging? Where
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: is the campaign ads? Where are, rather, the campaign ads?
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  Speaker 1: Where's the television buy on pointing out the obvious problems
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  Speaker 1: that Sherrod Brown has to the extent people would bring
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  Speaker 1: them up to the Ohio voters?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah. And I think that's going to be the tail
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  Speaker 9: of the tape, right? It's going to come down to
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 9: turnout here in Ohio. I think Vivek's in a little
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 9: bit of a better position, if I'm just being totally
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  Speaker 9: candid with you, than John Husted. Husted can still win
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 9: this thing, but it's going to mean that Republicans get
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 9: out of their chair. And here's the other important part.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, once we get past Labor Day,
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 9: people kind of start tuning in. And Sherrod Brown, listen,
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  Speaker 9: Democrats need this. They need this seat. They're going to
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  Speaker 9: spend I mean, you're seeing the political machine here in Ohio.
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  Speaker 9: There's a reason this is going on right now. They're
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 9: going to throw everything into this race. And so Husted,
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  Speaker 9: I think, is being strategic with respect to ads, going
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 9: to have a smaller budget and everything that he does
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 9: is going to need to land. And so I think
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 9: once we get past Labor Day, you're going to see
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  Speaker 9: some very strategic, well-placed ads designed to get people out
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  Speaker 9: to the polls and designed to remind them who Sherrod
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  Speaker 9: Brown is. This is a guy who went to an
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 9: Ivy League school and majored in Russian studies and has
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 9: just told you about class warfare for five decades and
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 9: how the billionaires are bad and how he's going to
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 9: fight for the working man. And you're like, well, you've
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 9: been at it 50 years, Sherrod. How much longer do
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  Speaker 9: you need?
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  Speaker 1: No question about it. Jack Winsor, I always appreciate having
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: you on the show on a Friday, closing out the
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: week on a positive note, at least information-wise. TheOhioPressNetwork.com. Bookmark
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  Speaker 1: the site and follow what Jack has to report and
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: the articles he posts on the site. Jack, we'll do
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  Speaker 1: this again next Friday. I hope you have a fantastic weekend,
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 1: a week between now and then.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, have a great weekend, you and Joe. God bless you.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Take care, brother. 856, Tech Friday with Dave Hatter.