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Ross Fulton Analysis: How Will Jim Knowles Change The Game Plan For Penn State? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to your second episode of Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday,
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Speaker 1: the menu and make a reservation today. All right, So
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Speaker 1: we talked about the Ohio State offense earlier in the week.
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Speaker 1: I think people came away sort of encouraged from that show,
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Speaker 1: or at least not as discouraged as they were walking
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Speaker 1: away from the Ohio State Nebraska game last week. Today,
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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about the defense. We're going
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Speaker 1: to start with some of the things that was maybe
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a return to things that Jim
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Speaker 1: Knowles has shown in the past that we have not
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Speaker 1: necessarily seen a lot from Jim Knowles this season with
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Speaker 1: the Buckeyes. Ross We're going to start with a couple
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Speaker 1: with a couple different plays, both cover two.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw some people say, oh, it doesn't seem
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Speaker 2: like the High State defense did anything different, And to
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Speaker 2: say that, you just didn't like people just weren't paying
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Speaker 2: attention closely, because I would say there was quite a
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Speaker 2: bit different. Uh. This these first couple of clips being
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Speaker 2: of the you know, one prime example of that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny.
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Speaker 2: After the Oregon game, I retweeted something that Cody Alexander posted.
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Speaker 2: It was a great you know X the fallout X
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Speaker 2: for defensive schemes and you know he showed this. It
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Speaker 2: was before it was right after Knowles was hired from
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, and he was sort of like, this is
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Speaker 2: a stereotypical example of what Jim Knowles does.
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Speaker 3: And it was a three high.
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Speaker 2: Cover two look where there's you know, spill the football outside.
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Speaker 2: And I said, you know, this is very different than
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Speaker 2: what he's done in Ohio State and lo and behold
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Speaker 2: on Saturday against Nebraska, they got back to a lot
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Speaker 2: of this. So first one is a Tampa two three high. Look,
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Speaker 2: you have Caleb Downs, you know, who have circled there
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Speaker 2: as the pole runner, and so he's able to apply
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Speaker 2: himself as a run defender, which again he showed how
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Speaker 2: good he is it that on Saturday, and you'll have
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Speaker 2: you know, the corners sitting in the flats, and you
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Speaker 2: can see it even maybe more so from the behind
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Speaker 2: the offensive clip that I included here as well. But
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Speaker 2: both defensive ends at the snap pushing inside, pinching hard
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Speaker 2: inside right, and so we're going away again from the
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Speaker 2: defensive ends running up field to now we're back in
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Speaker 2: boxing and trying to force the football back inside and
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Speaker 2: now spilling everything. And so you know, this is just
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Speaker 2: a firt of stereotypical RPO play where you're sliding the
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Speaker 2: guy on the flat. Denzil Burke is sitting right there.
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Speaker 2: You know, it is a great job getting off the block.
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Speaker 2: But also that's you know, one of the benefits of
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Speaker 2: cover two in this situation is you have extra run
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Speaker 2: defenders in your corners. I think, you know, for I
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Speaker 2: think the High State corners have taken quite a bit
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Speaker 2: of criticism, but I think they're both very good as
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Speaker 2: run defenders are near the ball defenders they both tackle well,
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Speaker 2: so Cover two fits them. You'll notice throughout these clips.
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Speaker 2: One thing Ohio State also did in terms of changing
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Speaker 2: things up is they started flipping the corners, and so
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Speaker 2: instead of like having a right and left corner, denzil
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Speaker 2: Burke was always going to the field or so, you know,
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Speaker 2: if the balls on the hash mark going to the
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Speaker 2: wide side and Davison and Igbanosen was playing to the boundary.
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Speaker 2: I think Jim Knowles talked about that during his press
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Speaker 2: conference briefly, and you know, I think Davison and Bignosen
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Speaker 2: is comfortable as a squat corner, obviously using his physicality.
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Speaker 2: You know, we can talk about the good and the
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Speaker 2: bad of that, but it definitely helped. He's a very
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Speaker 2: good Cover two corner for that reason. He's very physical.
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Speaker 2: And so this is again just you know, noting that
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Speaker 2: this is a very typical concept of what Jim Knowles
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Speaker 2: did at Oklahoma State. I joked during the game or
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Speaker 2: after the game that ironically, in some ways Ohio State
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Speaker 2: on Saturday was looking similar to a Don Brown defense.
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Speaker 2: Ohio State fans might not like that reference, but Don
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Speaker 2: Brown play had a lot of good defenses, and what
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Speaker 2: I mean by that is that Ohio State's still playing
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Speaker 2: a lot of Cover one, you know, man coverage, and
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Speaker 2: we will get to some of the good and the
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Speaker 2: bad of that here in a minute, but mixing in
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Speaker 2: a lot of Cover two with it as your changeup,
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Speaker 2: and that's that's sort of what Don Brown always did.
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Speaker 2: And you know, before the twenty eighteen o High State game,
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Speaker 2: Couge Ihis State lots of problems with that mix, so
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Speaker 2: you know, it can be a very successful combination. Again,
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Speaker 2: the concept is keeping teams soft balance, but you know,
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Speaker 2: I thought it was you know, for anyone who said
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Speaker 2: that they they weren't doing anything different on Saturday, I
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Speaker 2: think this first clip proves that wrong.
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Speaker 1: And we have another cover two play that we are
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Speaker 1: going to get to next. And then I want to
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Speaker 1: ask you sort of a little bit of a forward
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Speaker 1: looking question, but let's do hit one more. And this
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Speaker 1: was instead of a passing play, this is a running
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Speaker 1: player there defending YEP.
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Speaker 2: And I you know, I joked because Devin Radcliffe, you know,
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Speaker 2: also a Buckey hut All defensive coach himself, has been
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Speaker 2: calling for Jim Noles to get back to running more
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Speaker 2: of his three high stuff. Like we just showed the
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Speaker 2: first clip, and I joke to Devin, well, how about
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Speaker 2: if they run the three high stuff fixed up from
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Speaker 2: the four to three defense. And so I guess this
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Speaker 2: is sort of the synthesis here between the Oklahoma state
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Speaker 2: and some of what he's done in Ohio state rights.
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Speaker 2: So you know, they continue to want to put against
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Speaker 2: twelve personnel a four to three on the field. And
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Speaker 2: it was sort of, you know, even a little bit
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Speaker 2: more strange on Saturday with Lathan Ransom out because they
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Speaker 2: would in the four to three play Jalen McClain as
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Speaker 2: the field safety and then in the four two five
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Speaker 2: played Jordan Hancock as the state field safety and bring
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Speaker 2: in Lorenzo Styles or Jim Jermaine Matthews as a nickel.
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Speaker 2: So a lot of shuffling pieces. But anyways, the this
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Speaker 2: is essentially the same exact defense, right except now instead
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Speaker 2: of your pole runner being your middle safety and Klen
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Speaker 2: Downs now your pole runner is your Mike linebacker. But
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Speaker 2: other than that, it's the same exact defense, right. So
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Speaker 2: again you can see it both from the all from
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Speaker 2: the wide angle as well as from behind the defense.
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Speaker 2: At the snap, defensive ends are plugging those b gaps right,
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Speaker 2: like people who joked about, you know, like we need
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Speaker 2: whether we talked about the heavy technique techniques earlier this
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Speaker 2: year or stunting, like this is what we mean, right,
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Speaker 2: So they are forcing this football to spill outside and
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Speaker 2: you have your quarter squatting in the flat and you
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Speaker 2: can then fill like you know, it would probably be
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Speaker 2: a little bit better here if Sunny Styles kept his
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Speaker 2: outside leverage. You're kind of getting two guys in the
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Speaker 2: same gap. Down Downs has to come clean it up.
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Speaker 2: So but that being said, again, I just think it's
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Speaker 2: an example of how, you know, one of our one
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Speaker 2: of the complaints has been and that things seem very
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Speaker 2: different between when they run the four two five and
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Speaker 2: the four to three. And this is also a way
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Speaker 2: that you can keep a lot of the same structure
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Speaker 2: in place, except you're just basically subbing it, as I said,
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Speaker 2: a third safety for a middle linebacker.
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Speaker 1: So we're doing this show and this is a little
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Speaker 1: bit backward looking because we're talking about the Nebraska game.
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Speaker 1: But we're also late enough in the week that I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people have sort of mentally moved
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Speaker 1: on to Okay, but what is this going to mean
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Speaker 1: for the upcoming game? Against Penn State obviously a pretty
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Speaker 1: big game, and having rewatched Penn State's game against Wisconsin
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Speaker 1: Man that is it is a creative offense. INDYKOTL Nikki
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Speaker 1: does a lot of different and creative stuffs the offensive
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Speaker 1: lineman and motion and you know Tyler Warrens all over
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Speaker 1: the place. And with this new different stuff that they're
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Speaker 1: sort of mixing in now and then mixed in last week,
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Speaker 1: how could that impact what they're potentially going to have
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Speaker 1: to try and do this weekend in Happy Valley?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for fear of being dead wrong, because
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Speaker 2: Jim Knowles will change things up game to game quite
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Speaker 2: a bit. I mean I like this cover these cover
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Speaker 2: two concepts against Penn State because, as you said, like
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Speaker 2: what Clinick he wants to do is like get you
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Speaker 2: out of position early with all the shifts motions. You know,
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Speaker 2: as you said, bring an olignment in motion. He'll also
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Speaker 2: use like sort of nasty splits where he'll like split
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Speaker 2: a tight end or an offensive tackle even like two
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Speaker 2: to three yards outside the box. The good thing about
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Speaker 2: this sort of three high cover two structure is you
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Speaker 2: can set it and forget it. And by that I
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Speaker 2: just mean everyone gets in place you don't. It's easy
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Speaker 2: to adjust to shifts and motions with cover two, you know.
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Speaker 2: I guess the downside of it is, as I said,
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Speaker 2: Caleb Downs and or if Lathan Ransom is playing, are
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Speaker 2: very good as run defenders. And so that's what the
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Speaker 2: single high gets you is adding them as a hat
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Speaker 2: in the box. Here you're counting on your corners in
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Speaker 2: some ways to be your extra hats. But the benefit
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Speaker 2: for us Dight, as I said, is that their corners
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Speaker 2: are pretty good at doing that, and so in some
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Speaker 2: ways you get a nine man front and then you
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Speaker 2: can apply Down as the middle safety. And so I
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Speaker 2: just think, you know, even back to the Oregon game,
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Speaker 2: like Brian Day has harped on this, I mean, part
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Speaker 2: of the issue with all the cover one man they
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Speaker 2: were playing was moving guys around to like match up
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Speaker 2: pre staff and then shifts some motions that getting people
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Speaker 2: out of position. So I think one benefit to this
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Speaker 2: sort of three high cover two structure is just like
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Speaker 2: get set. You have you have you know, equal numbers
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Speaker 2: to both sides of the center, and you can adjust
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Speaker 2: more easily.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well that's good to know, good good information
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Speaker 1: for Saturday. Some people can kind of keep an eye on.
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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna move from cover two to cover three.
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Speaker 1: This is one where it looks like the Cover three
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Speaker 1: did its job downfield, but then that kind of opened
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Speaker 1: something up for you know, nice nice little pickup for
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Speaker 1: Dylan rail on a scramble on this one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we can get to that issue in a second.
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Speaker 2: But I had to include this play because, like for me,
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Speaker 2: it made my heart feel full after I saw it,
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Speaker 2: because it was so much of what I've wanted Ohio
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Speaker 2: State to do and it's just been so hard to
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Speaker 2: find it. So, uh, this is the you know, the
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Speaker 2: Nick Saban term for what they're doing here is called
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Speaker 2: three skate. All that means is it's it's Cover three
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Speaker 2: to the weak side.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: So your your second safety here. Jordan Hancock is the
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Speaker 2: one dropping down as a week Cook defender.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: So in cover three you have you know, the four
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Speaker 2: underneath defenders, you have two curl flat defenders. On the
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Speaker 2: edge you have two hook curl defenders, and then you
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Speaker 2: have the three deep guys right. And so for cover three, Uh,
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Speaker 2: this is one adjustment. So we've talked earlier this year
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Speaker 2: is another issue that Ohio States had against trips which
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Speaker 2: this is right, you have three Nebraska receivers to the field.
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Speaker 2: Is that they have not been able to roll the
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Speaker 2: coverage and so they've had to pull linebackers out of
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Speaker 2: the box. This is in cover three a way to
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Speaker 2: do that, right. So what happens here is your week
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Speaker 2: Cooks defender, which is Jordan Hancock again the safety he
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Speaker 2: is matching right that. So Nebraska sends that that guy
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Speaker 2: coming in motion on a deep over route or deep crossed,
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Speaker 2: Hancock picks him up and then you'll see the you know,
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Speaker 2: strong hook player Cody Simon handle that crow route.
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Speaker 3: So there's a couple of things going on.
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Speaker 2: So we're are both rolling coverage so we don't have
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Speaker 2: to pull linebackers. Granted this is like a third long,
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Speaker 2: so they're showing a sim pressure. We are matching routes
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Speaker 2: for the first time I think in Knowles's tenure.
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Speaker 3: I saw them carry or match.
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Speaker 2: Some routes on Saturday, which again is like that's a
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Speaker 2: big change, right, and so that that takes away some
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Speaker 2: of these like deep over deep digs that have caused
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Speaker 2: them problems.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Jordan mc Jalen McLain's breakup was another good example of
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Speaker 2: that of Karen a route, and so again it's just
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Speaker 2: it's showing there's more tools in the toolbox. Again we
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Speaker 2: talked about, so I keep hinting at the pluses and
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Speaker 2: minuses of all the Cover one they're playing like, and
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Speaker 2: you know, one plus, as I said, is getting Galb downs,
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Speaker 2: Lathan rants and in the box as rendefenders like you
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Speaker 2: can also do that with Cover three. I'd like to
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Speaker 2: see them probably mix in some more Cover three like this,
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Speaker 2: especially if they can match outs. But as I said, partially,
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Speaker 2: it's just this is the kind of stuff I've wanted
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Speaker 2: to see them do more, so I couldn't help but
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Speaker 2: include it.
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Speaker 1: So now we're moving on to Cover one, and this
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Speaker 1: is one thing you probably don't want to see them
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Speaker 1: do more. This is one of the Davis ENIGMNOSM pass
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Speaker 1: and interference plays, but we're really more looking at the
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Speaker 1: coverage and not the actual result of the play. So
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Speaker 1: let's move along to Cover one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I guess this would be my one
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Speaker 2: ongoing criticism is it's just they're very predictable, right, Like
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Speaker 2: everyone can see this pre snap and know that this
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Speaker 2: is going to be Ohio State plane Cover one, So
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Speaker 2: you know, Davis enigmnos and also obviously had the past interferences.
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Speaker 2: Those overwhelmingly came in this situation where this is actually
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Speaker 2: an RPO and Dylan Reyola, he just it's it's obvious
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Speaker 2: pre staff, right, He's getting Cover one, so he just
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Speaker 2: pulls it and throws that back shoulder throw. This is
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Speaker 2: exactly what I said I'd like to see Ohio State
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Speaker 2: do in these situations. Did Jeremiah Smith Nebraska did it
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Speaker 2: multiple times and got past interferences out of it. I
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Speaker 2: just I know they want to mix in cover one
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Speaker 2: and as I said, like or be pretty heavy in
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Speaker 2: cover one. It does have the benefit as I said,
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Speaker 2: of getting the safety in the box, like I show
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Speaker 2: you multiple great clips of like Caleb downs when he's
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Speaker 2: responsible for the tight end and then the like on
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Speaker 2: a run play, like him inserting himself and making plays.
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Speaker 2: The downside is when you telegraph it like this, it's
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Speaker 2: pretty easy to attack either with this or again we
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Speaker 2: saw like multiple pick plays because they're just not very
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Speaker 2: varied in how they run Cover one either, and so
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Speaker 2: they just end up letting themselves get you know, pick routes.
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Speaker 3: Rub routes become a problem.
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Speaker 2: There's the one where you know, Denzil Brooklan Renzel's styles
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Speaker 2: into each other, there's a wide open receiver. They were
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Speaker 2: fortunate that Rayola missed him running on kind of a
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Speaker 2: wheel route. And so I just continue to worry about
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Speaker 2: just the lack of variety and how they played cover
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Speaker 2: one and how they telegraph it. You know, as I said,
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Speaker 2: I also think that you know, I'm not sure that
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Speaker 2: Iganossen's like they So we had those plays earlier this
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Speaker 2: year where right against Michigan State where Ignanosen was way
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Speaker 2: off the line of scrimmage, and that cause issues. They
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Speaker 2: obviously agreed they think he's better rolled up. That's part
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Speaker 2: of why they're playing him to the boundary, because they
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Speaker 2: like to roll up the boundary corner a lot more.
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Speaker 2: But I continue to wonder whether their corners are best
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Speaker 2: at playing Cover one forty percent of the time, and
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Speaker 2: so I think that there's benefits to mixing in more zone.
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Speaker 2: They did it, as I said on Saturday, more, I
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Speaker 2: just would like to see them disguise when they're going
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Speaker 2: to play Cover one a little bit better.
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Speaker 1: Well, one thing that I know Ohio State fans have
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Speaker 1: been hoping to see more is pressure on the quarterback,
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Speaker 1: and that has been sort of a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a recurring issue for them not being able to get
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Speaker 1: to the quarterback. One way you can get there run
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Speaker 1: cover zero, bring a whole lot of guys. That's this
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Speaker 1: next one. So was this a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: change up from Jim Knowles in terms of bringing more pressure?
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Speaker 3: Yes and no.
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Speaker 2: Right, this is I had to include this one as
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Speaker 2: well because it's the response to the myriad of complaints
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Speaker 2: about the quote unquote two man pressure against Oregon. This
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Speaker 2: is the same concept but done correctly. And so you know,
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Speaker 2: as I said, I would like to see them when
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Speaker 2: they use these pressures, use more zone behind it with
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Speaker 2: zone blitzes. They did that a little bit on Saturday,
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Speaker 2: but Knowles is still going to use lots of pressures
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Speaker 2: with cover one or cover zero man behind it. The
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Speaker 2: good thing is that they attack protection schemes much better
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Speaker 2: on Saturday. And this is an example like this is
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Speaker 2: done correctly, right, So this is the concept you're bringing.
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Speaker 2: They have six blockers and you're bringing seven, like you're
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Speaker 2: going to get someone unblocked. The difference is rather than
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Speaker 2: like the defensive line fainting and they engage here and
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Speaker 2: so like you can see Caleb downs. He does this correctly, right,
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Speaker 2: Like he knows he's blocked, so he's not going to
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Speaker 2: keep like rushing the passer. He you can see him
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Speaker 2: sort of spy once he's engaged.
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Speaker 3: But by doing that.
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Speaker 2: And then Sunny Styles attacked the guard, right, so you
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Speaker 2: sold them a lot more picking off offensive linemans and protection.
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Speaker 2: So he attacks the guard, the running back has to
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Speaker 2: come over and pick up Cody Simon who's also unblocked,
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Speaker 2: and that leaves Ty Hamilton unblocked right up the middle
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Speaker 2: and there's you know, no way to deal with that.
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Speaker 3: So much better job on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: In execution, as well as a scheme of attacking the protection,
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Speaker 2: which we're going to see on this next one as well.
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Speaker 1: Let's move right on to that next one. Now this
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Speaker 1: is next one. Is they cover one look and they
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Speaker 1: once again they don't get home for the sack, but
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Speaker 1: they get home in time to really make a pretty
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Speaker 1: significant impact on the pass.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And again so you know, accepting the fact that they're
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Speaker 2: going to use a lot of cover one pressures, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: That is what it is.
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Speaker 2: But they did a pretty good job here in playing
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Speaker 2: cover one. But as I said at least they're protect
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Speaker 2: attacking protection schemes. And what I mean by that is
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Speaker 2: like a lot of times on Saturday you saw them
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Speaker 2: using a one blitzer to pick off an offensive lineman
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Speaker 2: to try to freeze someone.
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Speaker 3: Right, So this is actually just a four man rush.
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Speaker 3: It's just cover one robber because J T.
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Speaker 2: Twomlow he's going to engage with the tight end just
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Speaker 2: like sort of in that re pressure and then drop
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Speaker 2: as a underneath robber defender. And so what you're really
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Speaker 2: doing is you're just you're bringing four, but you're attacking
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Speaker 2: one side. Right, You're you're using four against three offensive
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Speaker 2: linemen to the right side of the offensive lines protection scheme.
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Speaker 2: And so Cody Simon, he's not really trying to get
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Speaker 2: to the quarterback. What he's trying to do is engage
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Speaker 2: both those blockers, which he does a great job of
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Speaker 2: right Like he's going just right at that right guard
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Speaker 2: so that that guard has no.
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Speaker 3: Option but to pick him up.
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Speaker 2: Like ideally, that center then is supposed to peel off
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Speaker 2: for Jack Sawyer looping around, but he can't get disengaged
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Speaker 2: in time, and so the running back has to help
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Speaker 2: with that. And then you have styles coming off the edge,
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Speaker 2: so you know, yes, they didn't get home. But you
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Speaker 2: can see like Dylan Rayola has to throw sort of
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Speaker 2: and turn his body right away, like he's not able
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Speaker 2: to fully step into that pass. And so again I
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Speaker 2: think these are you're seeing even within man coverage schemes,
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Speaker 2: just a much better job of attacking, as I said,
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Speaker 2: attacking protections, mixing it up up front, stunting, slanting, a
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Speaker 2: lot of the stuff we've talked about after the Organ game,
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Speaker 2: and so I think you can see like people should
18:43
Speaker 2: take Harden like was it absolutely perfect. No, Like you
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Speaker 2: talked about the one scramble on the cover three, I
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Speaker 2: do think that there were in allowing more variety and rushes,
18:54
Speaker 2: there were guys who were getting too far a field
18:56
Speaker 2: that allowed those scrambles. The long Dylan Rayola scramble actually
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Speaker 2: came off of another cover zero or cover zero with
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Speaker 2: a rat pressure where Jalen McLain was the rat and
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Speaker 2: unfortunately he ran with the guy in coverage and left
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Speaker 2: the middle of the field open for that long scramble.
19:15
Speaker 2: Downside of plane Man, another downside of plane man. If
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Speaker 2: you know Bo Prabola, if I'd say his name correctly,
19:23
Speaker 2: is in for Penn state plane. Man coverage is going
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Speaker 2: to be another issue because he's obviously a very a
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Speaker 2: depth runner, particularly on passing downs. They're gonna have to
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Speaker 2: think about that and probably if they want to play
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Speaker 2: man coverage, have at least one or two spies or
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Speaker 2: you know, underneath robbers that are keeping their eyes on
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Speaker 2: the quarterback.
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Speaker 3: But you know, so, I.
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Speaker 2: Think it's kind of one of those things though that
19:47
Speaker 2: they haven't done some of this stuff, so now they're
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Speaker 2: kind of Now there's a little bit of growing pains
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Speaker 2: on the scramblane and getting to a far field, and
19:53
Speaker 2: so it's sort of you have to have a controlled
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Speaker 2: aggression right where you're you're doing your past move, but
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Speaker 2: you're not getting so far afield that you and you're
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Speaker 2: allowing the quarterback to scramble. But overall significant steps forward
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Speaker 2: you can see much more. Jim Knowles is able to
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Speaker 2: do much more in the back end by also controlling
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Speaker 2: the front and being able to marry them together.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we will see how Jim Knowles attacks
20:18
Speaker 1: the Penn State defense this weekend. It'd be a fantastic,
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Speaker 1: fantastic game shaping up to be a pretty close game
20:24
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20:28
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20:32
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20:35
Speaker 1: Valley on Friday night as well for the Ohio State
20:38
Speaker 1: team arrival at their hotel. Hopefully get a chance to
20:40
Speaker 1: talk to Ryan Day briefly and get it sort of
20:42
Speaker 1: an update on things as we get as there's some
20:45
Speaker 1: injury questions around Ohio State, injury questions around ends date
20:49
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20:51
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20:54
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20:56
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