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Ferarri Takes 1|2 in Texas | United States GP Recap - Fast Laps with the Boys | Mexican GP Preview · Banter with the Boys

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Yo yo welcome back to banner with the boys a fast lapse where we're gonna
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recap the United States GP and we call them down here it's been so long I'm
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just so excited a minute and preview the Mexican GP but first off Joe what's
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going on I feel like it's been a hot minute we missed we missed everybody
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last week but here we are yeah it's been four weeks I've missed this I almost feel
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like coming into today I'm like I don't even know if I know how to do this
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anymore right like I know I haven't talked in four weeks did you bring your
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tin foil hat no not yet I think I had an idea for the tin foil hat I'm not gonna
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spoil anything but I'll have one soon I'll have one soon ish we'll say we'll
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say but yeah I'm really happy to be back so by 2025 yeah maybe maybe happy to be back sad
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we're missing some of the boys but really excited to talk some more fun for
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sure for sure Cole's out for a few weeks with something going on with his job I
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believe it is so good for him opportunity there but yeah just us and
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of course we got kev behind the camera who you cannot see doing it and wave
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or I'm making it has waving right now just trust us trust us you can trust us
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it's alright yeah let's head right into our first recap here which actually
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really quick is about Singapore yeah which we would have recapped last week
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but not a ton to talk about other than I mean the glaring thing being Danny Rick
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yeah potentially being his last f1 race you think I mean it kind of seems that
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way like I don't any know other teams besides saying goodbye have said that
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they're looking at picking him up I've heard rumors about him racing next to
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Logan Sargent maybe or going into some other parts yeah I think I think he's
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he's probably unfortunately done with f1 sure I it's too yeah it's too bad we
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didn't meet last week because this was such a huge thing like edging into the
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weekend a little bit it was like no I no clue before that before that weekend
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there's inklings right it would have I mean inklings throughout the whole
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season I think before that weekend I would not have guessed at the end of
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this weekend you know he's gone but like starting like I think first practice
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session the commentators were talking about it they're talking about there's
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Danny Rick possibly his last weekend and f1 and I'm like there is already pre
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yeah they're like tell like saying this guy's eulogy and he's still in the car
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like it's crazy and then yeah by the end of it so I feel like I definitely wanted
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to touch on that at least a little bit because it was such a huge just a huge
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thing to happen him coming in halfway the season last year now being kicked out
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halfway this year it's hey at least you got a full year kind of right here but
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after what we thought though he was give being given that seat for the rest of
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the season almost no matter what is what it sounded like yeah was that right
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before they went to that that summer break I think that remember that scene
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that was right no that was Danny Rick where he was all happy or something you
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know what I mean he was talking with Horner and whoever it is Marco
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Singles oh yeah sure but Marco probably was there too but then you saw Danny
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Rick all happy and whatnot yeah that's right oh he was given the seat for the
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rest of season and I thought it came out confirming that but maybe not but I do
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remember what you're talking about but either way no Danny Rick how do you feel
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about you know it's fair I mean he hasn't really I don't as much as I want
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to like maybe him up because he's the probably the reason why f1 is starting
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to grow at least in this country because he has a likable personality for some of
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these Americans around here yeah I mean I mean honestly yeah and maybe fair is
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the wrong choice of word do you think it compared to Yuki do you think it's right
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timing and the right choice like up until maybe a couple races I feel like
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they were relatively similar similar yeah I guess he started out the season
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hot if I remember right yeah killing it but then definitely kind of lowered and
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then plateaued like right there so yeah I'd say they were kind of hand-in-hand
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as far as that goes so I guess fair is a good question is it fair yeah men maybe
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he was just set a really high expectation point and he just didn't hit
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it just didn't hit it like maybe he going into the season maybe going to
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season he's like you have to be driving at Red Bull level not racing bull level
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Red Bull level and if you're not hitting that we're getting you out of racing
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bone putting Liam in because we know he's good in that car right so I think
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maybe maybe it was just a you know expectations were set differently between
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the two and I mean we saw we'll get to it later but we saw Liam go out and get a
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p9 this yeah so does Danny Rick get p9 this weekend I don't probably I don't
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know yeah I mean again hard to say we can we can make these hypotheticals all
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day go after it all day should Danny Rick be still race you know I mean there was
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a rumor though that he well we touched on that actually a few weeks ago that
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you could go to NASCAR too right yeah it would be interesting if he crossed the
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pond and decided to still race but just makes our racing leagues look like
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retirement options though but so happens when you're leaving the best the best
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racing you know around the world yeah in our opinion I guess I guess our fans I
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guess probably disagree but well I am a NASCAR fan I do not but anyway I
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appreciate that yeah yeah yeah Danny Rick also took the fastest lap of the race
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yeah pretty cool to see driver of the day again kind of just seeming planned
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yeah it was like that it's your swan song you know nothing had been confirmed and
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it was just like clear as day it was the craziest thing watching that happen yeah
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no for sure and then Lando get in the dub by a 22 second margin yeah so that
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was interesting considering now what we saw this past weekend yeah I mean just
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shows you know cars are built for certain tracks I guess for sure no for
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sure with that that kind of ends our little quick Singapore touch base as
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Joe put in here and then we'll just head right to our US recap
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and obviously starting the US recap Ferrari just running away with the thing
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I did catch a little bit of quality I did not catch the sprint but watching
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quality I didn't feel that Ferrari would be as dominant as they kind of showed
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throughout the race I know we saw didn't we see a little bit of Lando up front
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too for a little bit wasn't long if he made it that far during the race yeah a
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little bit but maybe that's just when Friar is boxing I can't remember he uh
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he qualified P1 so that's like the close I mean after after turn one it was over
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yes yeah for sure yeah Charles I mean giving it the max for
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stabbing treatment racing in his own race truly you know I think at the end
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of the race he was what was it I think it was only like I have her in front of
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me it was eight seconds ahead so not quite the margins that we saw from Lando
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in Singapore or max usually but still he had no like he was not fighting anyone
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no no I mean they were way more both Friar's were way more dominant than I
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had anticipated yes you like when I'm trying to remember if it was a battle
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between science and for stabbing I say battle but I feel like there really
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wasn't a battle I'm trying to think how early that was I feel like it was early
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but I'm still looking at it here again but but just I felt like the Red Bull
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couldn't give the Ferrari anything this race at all yeah there's had no shot
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yeah so just kind of fun to see Ferrari kind of get back at that again I think
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if we would have had a show last week I don't think we would have been talking
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about Ferrari winning the thing I you know what I mean I think we would have
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been all over McLaren to be honest with you yep we were talking about maybe
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getting in predictions like halfway through like the weekend and I was like
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well I'm watching like qualifying and I I already know predictions are gonna be
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wild because someone was knocked out in q1 and I think it was it was Lewis was
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knocked out in q1 it's like well who could have expected that like there's a
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there's a solid chance I put Lewis in my podium this weekend whoa or for for
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Kota because he's done well here before so yeah it's definitely not something you would expect I
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think coming out of this weekend I definitely would have thought McLaren
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to have been faster in general I kind of feel bad a little bad for Ferrari
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because truly they're in a race of their own they got the one two out they you
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know they nailed that but they weren't really covered a lot during the race
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because of everything else that was going on I mean yeah fair enough yeah you
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just saw the two Ferrari logos up top and the leaderboard the whole race and
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that was about it but there was a lot of movement throughout the race I guess
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let's just let's just lead right into Red Bull there I don't have anything else
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to say about Ferrari right now other than the fact is I mean I guess I'm
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looking at them differently heading into Mexico than I would have been now
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they're showing some strength the second half of the season all that much closer
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to Red Bull and constructors now I think there's a real chance if they keep doing
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what they're doing that they could start fighting McLaren for the win too
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Ferrari yeah you think so I mean if they I mean with how inconsistent Red Bull is
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right now too Red Bull I think they're gonna surpass them with Checo like no
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problem it's gonna be hard you think you think Ferrari is gonna surpass Red Bull
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too oh yeah I mean I mean McLaren's already surpassed them and they're right
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the point difference between the two is between Ferrari and Red Bull yeah it's
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currently it is eight points oh yeah yeah yeah so next next weekend very
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possible Ferraris and second and then after that currently 40 55 points away
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from from McLaren very doable points for two cars to make Ferraris 50 points
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yes okay yep very doable I mean if they keep showing up like this it could get
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really interesting yep yeah but yeah let's let's move right into Red Bull
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here Max finishing P3 Checo finishing P7 for for Checo again disappointment I
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mean with the Mercedes struggling and Russell having a tough race I mean he
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battled and we'll talk about Mercedes but he really battled and you can't even
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beat George Russell this weekend I mean it's we talked about it all the time we
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need we need to see more from Checo it looks like he's probably got that seat
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now that Racing Bulls made the move you know he's probably got that seat you
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don't think so you don't think Checos got that seat locked up for the rest of
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the season oh season yes yeah yeah okay yeah we got to talk about that but again
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2025 is gonna be yeah I don't know that'll be it you think do you think they
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move Liam Liam up there or give it to me I think it would be insane if they move
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if they move Liam up there instead of before you yeah I think you'd be showing
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it would be insane but I could see them do it like they just they just hurt their
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drivers with here they heard Albon they're just would Checo then be racing
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in the Racing Bull or do you think they move to put somebody else in the seat
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and now Checos just kind of I don't know I think on the side is your side dish a
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Red Bull decision should be to get Isaac Hadjar their F2 driver in the Racing
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Bull seat interesting um I don't know if they will though have we ever seen a
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team downgrade you know a starting driver right starting driver I don't
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know what else to call them but check all right have we ever seen a team
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downgrade them to reserve driver in favor of like a younger driver and that
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driver accepting that I'm saying check oh just gets booted from Red Bull just
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oh and then and then you gear Liam takes a spot and then Isaac gets put into the
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sure into the racing bull seat I think because he has such a weird contract
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they might have to put him in the racing bull seats anyway who check oh yeah yeah
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I'm not sure I think so because I feel like that'd be weird just to be and I
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don't know how f1 contracts work we got a lot of different teams it's this
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actually this actually kind of goes back into and it actually also goes back into
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so I'll just say now because we're talking about Red Bull yeah Danny Rick's
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getting that extra point at the end of Singapore helping max shows that we have
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a single like I mean we have a company with four cars on the grid right and
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that's I think inherently a problem probably because I mean you got one you
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got you got Lando who has Oscar that can support him you got max who has check oh
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you know Yuki and there's Liam and there's no reason that Yuki and Liam
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wouldn't support yeah yeah yeah so that's yeah and so and we'll talk about
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you know the fastest lap point at later but yeah just that's also been kind of
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weighing on my mind a little bit either way in terms of the seat that kind of
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gets taken yeah it's yeah I don't know man um what were we talking about the
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Red Bull seat who knows yeah I think Yuki should get it because he's been
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fighting for it for so long right but I've been hearing a lot about Liam
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possibly being I mean if Liam like kills it the rest of the season he keeps doing
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what he's doing and Yuki keeps doing what he did in Kota like Liam gets that
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seat they're just gonna give it all for sure yeah like why why not Yuki looked
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off this race for sure just not right not right not great this race so sort of
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a segue from Red Bull to McLaren let's talk about max finishing p3 that's a
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that's a disgusted face so how do you feel about the penalty on Lando and we
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can go into McLaren from there let's talk about the penalty which gave max p3
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let's talk about the penalty okay and I've been having I had this
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conversation pretty much all day with some people online as well just how how
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we how we see the penalty and how it was given to other people because that one
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corner was causing a lot of those penalties to happen sure I think I am not
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mad that max got p3 because of the penalty I'm mad that the FAA has such a
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gray line for that penalty that both teams had to question whether or not it
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would have been a penalty because we got max saying he overtook me off the track
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which is true I agree Lando did that yes but you think they were racing off the
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track max also got off the track there's nowhere else for Lando to go so what is
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the rule say about that about there's forcing off the track they'll probably
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say whoever is in front at the apex has the right of way so in the perfect world
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Lando should have probably slotted behind him or stayed behind him in off
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the track as well or given it back to him because right away because if if max
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were behind Lando going into the corner then it would have been forcing off the
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track is what my interpretation of it is that being said that corner is so weird
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the apex is so is so weird and it was happening almost every lap I would say
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where like someone was going off track or at least every fight that happened
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there it was an off the track moment here just because I have it yeah and you
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can see it from there you guys can't see it yeah but you can you can find this
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but there it is right there it is I mean max doesn't give them any room no room
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whatsoever you can see right there he's off the track as well Lando's further
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off into the white in the white portion of you know of that track too but I
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think I agree with you I think I agree with max getting p3 I mean I think you
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do have to give the penalty I think that is something that they're gonna have to
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address I'm just I'm just disappointed I'm I'm happy the race was great the
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fighting was amazing tough at the apex is dead how are you supposed to know that
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inside the car is interesting yeah it's it's it's really rough and they were
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still racing off the off the track as well so it's I don't know so that's what
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McLaren is arguing as well is that they were racing off the track it's sad that
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that fight that amazing fight had to end with one great penalty so I think a
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line needs to be made I also mentioned that maybe the track needs to be changed
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it's not the tracks fault I love Kota so much and I think it I think there's some
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really awesome overtaking opportunities but it also causes a lot of weird
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moments for overtaking now another point that was made to me that I thought was
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really interesting is how the FAA has their rules laid out it promotes what
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you keep saying FAA FIA sorry yeah I'm rambling you know I'm no no no go for
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do it do it do it spew it so how the rules are laid out it promotes what max
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did which is he broke really late on the inside of that corner which made him go
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out which made him push out into the sure you're entering the corner with
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more speed you're entering the corner so Lando's here yeah max is here this is
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the corner right yep Lando breaks max breaks later sure right which means that
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he's taking the corner a bit so that's harder and pushes him further to the
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off-track which pushes Lando as well so if Lando sees him breaking late you're
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saying Lando needs to make the decision like ah he beat me to this corner I need
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to back up decision to try and get alongside him to make that move and hope
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that you know what happened or he needs to switch back which is tough as well
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and cut underneath them yes yeah so it promotes that kind of weird kind of
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maneuver where you're breaking late and you're also going off track so max still
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went off track too he still did something wrong for sure no he was way
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off track but like he didn't and I know I'm wearing the McLaren hat and I'm
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going to be biased and that's fine I already said Lando deserved he deserved
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the penalty at the end of the day max definitely deserved p3 I'm just sad that
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it ended that way I just I just will the only thing I will back up Lando on is
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again he just had an absolutely nowhere to go he didn't you're right yeah but he
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should know and if that's the case he does have to back off he should have
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backed up he should have given it back his team was van there still incredibly
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strongly I checked news today all the news is is this is this maneuver right
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I'm sure it's all I'm sure it is but that battle leading right up to it I mean
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yeah it's tough we had a couple laps of it and yeah and so his his team and I
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think really it's it's the FIA McLaren it's on Lando and as much as it hurts me
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but the more I keep watching it I've watched it like 15 times here in the
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past two minutes yep and max it does have the nose lead into the corner
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technically at the apex of the turn technically max does have that lead but
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again in the car that's so tough yeah it's it's incredibly tough and so yeah
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and I think so let's Lando it's you know Lando's at fault here he finished that
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maneuver the outcome of that though McLaren should have told him to be safe
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for and to give it back or give this strictly yeah they were incredibly
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strict so at the end of the day it's not Lando's fault that that happened it's
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McLaren's fault if we're putting blame on a team or on someone McLaren's fault
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that the penalty ended up having to be awarded because they didn't fix it yes
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okay it's not on McLaren it's not on Lando he asked he asked right he did ask
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he did ask he asked to give the place back and McLaren was like no we believe that you
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did not do anything wrong you stay where you are so that is messed up than it is on the FIA too
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you know like you said that it's such a gray area that teams have to question either way
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yeah they were like both of them yeah I'm just saying Red Bull's really quiet
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that's all I'm saying hey Joe is available to lead the FIA so oh no oh god
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be the shortest stint ever I'm good so let's roll right into Mercedes then
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Oscar also finishing p5 sorry Oscar we didn't talk about you but this Lando
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incident did overshadow it. P4, P5 not bad placements for being a bad okay in general
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McLaren bad weekend for them I think I would agree with very very weak this
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track but they still finished in really good points so I'll take it that's fine
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fair enough as a McLaren fan you'll take it. Hey you know what I'm not gonna
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complain yeah yeah you're leading in the constructors right now you're leading in the
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constructors right now so that's true that's something to be said are you gonna party if they win
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constructors throw a McLaren party? I'll be pretty happy maybe I will throw a McLaren party. You should. You know?
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you should maybe I'll come over and I'll make sure I buy a Red Bull hat before I
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come over or something. Interesting. That's an interesting move. And you're gonna come to my place?
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weird. Anyway Mercedes George Russell finishing p6 a tough I'm gonna go ahead
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and say a real tough p6 I mean he battled to get get those points and then
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Hamilton Wild just beached it. Another like Mercedes weren't shambles this weekend. Yeah they didn't look good all weekend.
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You said Hamilton was out Q1. Hamilton was out Q1 in qualifying and then Russell crashed in Q3 and his damage was enough to start him in the pit lane.
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So Russell making it to p6. Isn't insane. Starting from the pit lane. That's a tough p6. That was an amazing drive from Russell.
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He didn't even get considered for driver of the day which is crazy to me but it's it's fine. Who did get driver of the day?
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Charles did. It was Charles and then Cola Pinto and then I think Science that were the three like top.
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Yeah that's a darn shame that he didn't get considered. His drive was crazy good. I don't think he did anything that was like mega.
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Oh he was on the one stop maybe. Maybe he was on the one stop. Was he on the one stop? I can't remember.
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Either way he did. I can actually check really quick. There's a pit stop summary button. He was on a... Can I check if there's a pit stop? Yeah I can.
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Just singing a little bit. Just hold please. We're singing for Danny Rick's departure. Kev give me some hold music. He was on one stop.
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Yeah so he was on a one stop. He pit on lap 40. So he did go long and then he finished the race so that's kind of what gave him to him and I think...
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But I mean he fought for it man. I mean I don't think... I mean other than Hamilton spinning out which again out on Q1.
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Mercedes like you said as a whole was off all weekend. Where did they finish in the sprint? Did you watch the sprint?
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I did watch the sprint. Not saying that you need to memorize every car's position in the freaking sprint.
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And I have it here too. They finished fifth and sixth. If I remember correctly I don't think Lewis did well in sprint qualifying either but I remember...
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I think Russell was second. Russell got P2 in sprint quali and so he fell back quite a bit and then Lewis finished one up so it just wasn't a good weekend for Lewis in general.
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But yeah seeing both Mercedes at the bottom of the grid. And then let's just talk about Lewis' crash for a second or his beach for a second.
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That just wasn't Lewis driving. No man it's so weird. I'm trying to find that replay of it too because...
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Yeah it's lap three. It's incredibly early in the race so he was... I would imagine he was probably on hard so maybe his tires weren't heated up very well.
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But no external force. It's just him driving and he makes that mistake. It's not Lewis right? It's incredibly weird.
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Yeah did he like... he almost looked like he tried to... well my professional expertise here. Yeah he went to steer and then tried to over correct because it just wouldn't do anything it looked like.
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And then ended up in the rocks. It was just incredibly odd.
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Taking out his sandals. But yeah no it sucks. I mean it sucks to see a guy of that caliber you know. And in his race on lap three in a place where he's probably pretty popular.
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Yes he's incredibly... yeah. So yeah look for Mercedes to bounce back in Mexico maybe? We'll get there. I think so.
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Haas. Not a bad showing from Haas. I mean K-Meg. What did he start? P9 I think if I remember right. Yeah. I mean... Yeah really good quality. Best qualifying I think all year for K-Meg.
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I can't believe he was in Q3. I was like what is K-Meg doing here? K-Meg, Gasly? I was like what is going on? What is going on?
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I put Alpine here because I mean yeah they did good too. But yeah Haas just a great weekend. It was incredibly exciting to see. Now okay so Magnussen did not get into the points at the end of the race.
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No but P11. But Nico was able to get into eighth so still got points overall. I still think very strong race in general. Especially to the people that K-Meg had to fight against. Like yeah I think it was a good race.
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Is K-Meg doing enough to make a case like hey at least have me be a reserve driver for somewhere? I don't think K-Meg... Keep me on board? This goes back to like...
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But it would have to be like a bottom three team. I don't think it would be any top team. They're going to have some young studs that are waiting. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if they would have a veteran be a reserve driver.
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Is the last seat filled at Kic? No not yet. Okay K-Meg making a case. Man both Haas drivers going to Kic Sauer would be hilarious. That would be weird actually. Yeah I didn't think about that. Obviously Nico.
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I mean I don't know if we have. Do we have Kic on our agenda? No. Just really quick. Why would we have Kic on our agenda? Well first of all we'll go to Kic for a second. Joe freaking spins out on lap five and Boatoss is nowhere to be found.
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Boatoss is probably in the beach with Hamilton taking pictures for his calendar. You know what you're not wrong. But go ahead and mention Kic. What do you want to say about Kic Sauer? Well now I don't want to say anything. I bet.
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I want to finish on Haas first. Fine. Yes. We do have a couple Haas fans out there that listen to us actually. I mean yeah. Someone I know. It's their favorite team. So they were rooting for us. At least they're not a bandwagon fan. We know that. Haas. You're Haas fan. Oh yeah.
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Yeah that would be. They're not hopping on them when they're at the top. No. Yeah I think they just. I mean Gunther does a lot right? Gunther did a lot for the team. Absolutely. Gunther and DTS. DTS really helped that team grow a lot I think.
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Yeah so I'm hopeful. And Haas brought upgrades this weekend so it's good to see that those upgrades worked a bit. I'm hopeful that they can keep being a bottom of the top field team. Or top of the midfield team. Top of the midfield.
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Where does your midfield start? So for me again it's like you got your major four right? Red Bull, Ferrari, McLaren, Merc. And then I low key have Aston Martin kind of in their own thing by themselves. Yeah. They don't really know what they're doing. They're not good enough to be in that tier. They're a slider that moves a lot. But they're better than the rest. Kind of yeah. Kind of right. So like 2025 could be interesting. So there's them right? And then you kind of got like the Racing Bulls and Haas. I honestly this season group in with the Racing Bulls. Oh yeah definitely.
26:38
And who else am I thinking? Alpine as of late. Williams as of late too has been looking great. So yeah. Yeah. Interesting I think Haas can compete with the best of the rest title. To be more specific they should be fighting for points way more. Like 8 through 10 is where they should be.
26:57
Why are there not just other people getting in the way? Or is it strategy at that point? Williams is doing really well. Racing Bulls has been doing well sometimes. Alpine is typically not doing well although they did okay. Kick is never going to be doing okay. And Aston Martin is just all over the place. Whoa calm down. Aren't you going to be hopping on the Audi train in 2026? Not Audi yet.
27:18
Okay so until 2026 they're horrible. I will 100% be hopping on the Audi train. Okay talking about Kick really quick. Yeah what were you going to say about Kick? I want to talk about the Kick seat. Go for it. Because that's I think the last seat that needs to be filled currently. I think so. That sounds right. Well actually Racing Bulls still need to be filled too. I don't think they have a seat for 2025 Racing Bulls yet. I don't think they've confirmed Liam yet. Because Ricardo was still under contract? Or no he wasn't. I don't think he was. This was last year anyway. So and Liam has I don't. It's probably going to be Liam. I mean oh yeah definitely. I
27:48
only think they haven't confirmed him yet because they're waiting to see if they make him to push him up. So talking about Kick though. Do it at Abu Dhabi. Screw it. Oh man. Wouldn't that be fun? Just like we're not going to win the Constructors. Why don't you just take a ride. Give us a show. You know Checo why don't you take a break and then put Isaac in the Racing Bull for the last race of the season. That's a lot of sick. A lot of craziness. Yeah. And doubtful. But anyway Kick. Kick. We keep talking about it. I really really want Franco to have a seat.
28:18
Next year. I think he deserves it. I want him to be in the Kick. In the Kick seat. It's not the best seat in the world. No we know that. But it's a seat. He's not going to be in the Williams next year. It's not going to be Joe or Bo Toss. I'm telling you man. And I guess I could talk about him when we get to Williams but we could just talk about Williams now. Yeah do it. Franco is killing it. Like he is. Is that my boy Colapinto? Yeah. Yeah Colapinto. Yeah I see. He's just. He has the like the aggressiveness.
28:48
And just he's aggressive but he keeps it. He keeps it on the track. He does not like crash often but he's incredibly aggressive with everyone that he races. So how does that work then? Is he underneath like some sort of like minor contract with Williams then? He's a Williams. Is it just for Academy driver? He's a Williams Academy I think. Sure. So but if Kick's going to offer him a full time ride they can like do that without any sort of. The problem is that I don't know if. I want to say. I don't know.
29:18
I don't know if. One part is I don't know if Williams would give him up after saying he's doing so well. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. But I also saw. Like I thought I saw an article about Vowels talking to Kick for Franco or something like that. Interesting. I mean it's kind of a win win. You know for both. Yeah. I mean you're getting him more experience if he's still the plan at Williams. But at the moment at Williams you have a pretty good looking line up next season. You know unless Signs needs his pancreas out again. Or whatever it was. No yeah. You know what I mean.
29:48
You're not. Then then Colapinto is not going to see the track next year at all. Yeah he's going to be coming in the reserve role unfortunately. Yeah. And I think he's going to have less opportunity in that spot too because like Williams. You think about Williams and Red Bull. I mean come on. Red Bull has four seats and Williams has two. It's just yeah. It's just I feel like your chances are so low there. Plus you have two drivers who have stated that they're there for the long haul at Williams. He's just not going to get a shot to race again. Yeah it's going to be weird. I should jump on Williams.
30:18
Yeah. And also so many people have like contracts that are like upgraded 20 25 onwards. So he's just not going to get a seat if he doesn't get this. This might be his only chance to get in potentially for a while. And he is driving so well. I saw him. He had a battle between KMeg. And we are talking about KMeg going like hard and just being crazy on the track right. Yeah. He was matching his energy. He was like going hard. It was. It was amazing. I love it. It was a pretty good. I'm such a good race all the way down. I'm such a fan of our rookies dude. They're so fun. No I agree.
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I won that too much. 100 percent. With that just real quick Alping also had a pretty strong showing this weekend. Yeah. At they do you so the finish. Yeah. Final grid up. Did we're to gasly into finishing Glightly consoling finishing in Twelve. OK. OK. How he finished in points.
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but I guess not.
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No, who's finished P10 then?
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P10 was Cole Pinto.
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Oh, Cole Pinto, okay, yeah, yeah.
31:17
P9 and P10, we haven't talked about racing.
31:19
Gosh, and the racing between like eight and 13 was insane
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then, like pretty much the whole race.
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Yeah, yeah, there was a point I think like 10 laps in
31:28
or something, there was just a single, like huge DRS line.
31:32
Everyone was following each other, so yeah,
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there was some good racing all throughout the field
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for pretty much the entire race.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know where that pace came from.
31:41
Race aside, Gastly's qualifying was crazy good.
31:47
He got into Q3, like incredible.
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And I don't know how many times he's hit Q3 this year.
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That's gotta be potentially the first.
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Probably the first, I think, yeah.
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I would say probably the first, I don't know.
31:59
Alpine just has been so, like they've been so off
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and all of a sudden.
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But they're trying to preach it,
32:03
they got all these changes coming in the next year or two,
32:06
that they're preparing for 2026
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and they're gonna be competitive and all this.
32:10
Yeah, it's probably that We Have McLaren at Home livery
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they had on this weekend.
32:14
The what?
32:15
The We Have McLaren at Home livery.
32:17
Actually, I loved it.
32:19
I thought it looked good.
32:20
It looked like a McLaren, but I mean.
32:22
I know, it threw me off.
32:23
I had to keep doing double takes.
32:25
Yeah, like looking at it at the front,
32:26
it did look really good,
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because it had like some like beachy vibe coming to it,
32:30
but from the back, it just looked like a McLaren.
32:32
I think McLaren at the best livery.
32:34
I liked the chrome through the middle.
32:35
I love when they brought the chrome on.
32:37
I mean, that's, I don't know, I loved it.
32:39
But anyway, with that.
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Oh, racing balls really quick.
32:44
Oh yeah, did we not touch on racing balls?
32:46
We kind of talked about Liam and Yuki a little bit.
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We'll just say, Liam, great job.
32:50
First race back.
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Yeah, first race back.
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Yeah, because he didn't race in Singapore.
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Killed it.
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Just did amazing, did so well.
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If he does it again, and again,
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and if he can consistently get in points
33:03
the rest of the season,
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he does make that decision difficult
33:06
as to who starts in that second Red Bull scene.
33:09
As he should, truly.
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Yeah, I think Liam has, I mean, we've been,
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everyone's been saying it since we last saw him last year.
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And we're not forgetting about Yuki.
33:18
We know what Yuki was doing earlier in the season.
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We know what he's capable of.
33:21
Yeah, we know what he's capable of,
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but he's dropped.
33:24
Liam's not gonna make it easy on him, you know?
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No, no.
33:27
Yeah, it should be a hard decision.
33:29
I'm hoping it's a hard decision,
33:30
because I think Liam does truly deserve,
33:32
he at least deserves to stay in the seat.
33:34
I think bare minimum he should get that.
33:37
The racing Bulls seat.
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Unless he just, yeah, unless he just tanks it.
33:39
There's also a chance he tanks it,
33:41
and then they just get Isaac, right?
33:42
I mean.
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Which is a complete possibility.
33:44
Yeah, I don't think he's gonna tank it though.
33:46
I think he's, somehow he's shown a lot of growth
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in the time he hasn't been racing.
33:51
He looked really good out there.
33:52
So I'm looking forward to seeing him.
33:53
I mean, he's learning and watching.
33:54
He was the reserve driver for Red Bull, right?
33:56
Yeah.
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For a hot minute.
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I mean, he's learning from one of the best drivers to do it.
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Whether directly or indirectly,
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you're still watching the best driver do it.
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And watching what he does and to prepare,
34:06
whether that's playing e-sports until 2 a.m., whatever.
34:08
But, you know, I'm just saying.
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I don't know, I just feel like he's been learning
34:13
and watching, taking his notes for a long time,
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and he's not gonna let this opportunity pass this time.
34:17
Good, yeah.
34:18
But, yeah, with that, Kev, let's head right into our news.
34:23
["The News"]
34:29
And the first item of business in news
34:32
is the fact that they're taking away
34:34
the fastest lap point next season.
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Why?
34:41
That's exact same thing I said when I heard.
34:43
And I was trying to, go for it, sorry.
34:46
No, please.
34:47
No, I was trying to find people's opinions on this, right?
34:50
All over Facebook, you know, reading through comments,
34:52
and everybody's all over the freaking place.
34:54
Some are just like, you know, I think it's BS
34:57
that some team can just put brand new tires on
35:00
on the second to last lap and go out there
35:02
and try to get the fastest lap.
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Why?
35:04
Like, to me, that means at least there's something
35:06
to watch the last two laps.
35:08
You know what I mean?
35:09
Like, I don't know.
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I think that was, I don't know.
35:13
I hate it, I think it's a great opportunity
35:15
to get one more point, but that's just me.
35:18
I think it's dumb that they're getting rid of it.
35:21
No, I agree, I think I'm also of the mind of,
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this is not, I'm more of the mind of this is not.
35:27
There's still something to race for, then.
35:28
Yeah, there's something to race for.
35:29
This is not, like, so I have an idea of why,
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why they're getting rid of it,
35:36
and I think it's because of Daniel Ricciardo.
35:38
See, okay, I've heard that.
35:40
Taking it from someone, and I think that
35:41
if that is truly the reason why, I'm thinking,
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you're looking at the issue the wrong way.
35:47
Do not take the point away.
35:49
Maybe fix the issue that we have a single company
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or a single team, even with four cars.
35:55
Fix that issue first.
35:57
Because we saw this, I mean, I think,
35:59
didn't Okan get fastest lap, and he was in 19th
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or something in Kota?
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Yes.
36:07
He got fastest lap, right, and he was way down.
36:08
That sounds right.
36:09
I don't know why he did that, that was weird,
36:11
but I mean, he got it, so he negated points away
36:14
from someone else, don't really understand it,
36:16
but he did it, that's fine, it's whatever.
36:18
But is that, like, viewed as dirty then, now?
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Or, like, I don't think so.
36:23
I guess I don't understand what his,
36:26
hey, maybe it wasn't, he went out on reds to,
36:29
went out on softs to get the extra point,
36:31
maybe he just needed to change the softs
36:33
because his tires were bad or something.
36:35
Ah, I mean, you're putting, I mean.
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I don't know.
36:38
You're in 19th putting softs on.
36:40
Yeah, I don't know.
36:41
You're probably trying to get.
36:42
I didn't follow, he ended 18th, yeah,
36:44
I didn't follow what he was doing.
36:46
And he did for sure get fastest lap?
36:51
Potentially.
36:52
Let me check.
36:53
Potentially.
36:54
But.
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Yes, he did get the fastest lap.
36:55
153.
36:56
That doesn't really bother me that much.
36:59
No, it doesn't bother me.
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So, I, so if that is the reason, though,
37:03
that they're trying to limit teams
37:05
helping each other like that,
37:07
then they need to be focusing on a different,
37:09
like a different area to fix that issue in,
37:11
like having two Red Bull teams.
37:15
But if that's not the issue, which is very possible,
37:17
yeah, I don't get it.
37:18
I don't know why you would get rid of the fastest, like.
37:20
It's gotta be that issue, though.
37:21
That's what I'm thinking, right?
37:22
You're probably right.
37:23
Yeah, I mean, what are the reasons would be the issue?
37:26
It promotes, I think, good racing.
37:29
Good competition the entire race.
37:31
I think it's really cool.
37:32
You're still working to get that extra point
37:33
no matter where you're at.
37:34
It's really cool seeing the driver
37:36
that's in like first or second
37:37
that's been driving on like these tires
37:39
for a really long time,
37:40
get the fastest lap of the entire race
37:43
on incredibly old tires.
37:45
Yeah, I know.
37:46
I think it's just like, wow,
37:46
they have incredible pace if they're able to do that, right?
37:48
Like that's really cool.
37:50
For sure.
37:51
So, okay, so in that example, then,
37:52
you got a driver on incredibly old tires
37:54
that gets the fastest lap.
37:56
Do you now have a problem then with a 19th driver
38:00
getting fresh tires and now beating that fastest lap?
38:03
Does that now raise a red flag or piss you off?
38:06
No, because it's like, if it's part of the strategy,
38:09
at least it's a strategy that they're having, I guess.
38:11
They just got a point.
38:11
Right?
38:12
As long as.
38:13
You know, they weren't gonna get points
38:14
and being in the top 10,
38:15
so now they get one for fastest lap.
38:16
They're still just trying to compete.
38:17
You know what I mean?
38:18
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
38:19
Yeah, and it's weird if you're out of top 10
38:21
and you do it, like, I think it's a little,
38:25
it just gets a little morally gray
38:27
when you're doing it to like stop points
38:29
from a team that has nothing to do with you, right?
38:31
Or should have nothing to do with you.
38:33
Is it though?
38:34
I mean, yeah.
38:35
That's morally.
38:35
The teams should be fighting each other, right?
38:37
They shouldn't be helping each other
38:40
by taking points away from someone or the other.
38:43
I can't remember who, Franco had, oh, you know what?
38:48
I think, okay.
38:51
I think I know why that happened in this last race.
38:53
And I think it's a good way to do it.
38:56
If teams are taking away points
38:57
from teams that are doing well, I think that's fine.
39:01
I just don't think they should be doing it
39:02
if they're not competing with them.
39:04
I think that's a little,
39:05
that's where it gets a little morally weird, right?
39:06
So Franco had the fastest lap and Ocon took it.
39:10
They're a little bit closer.
39:11
They're not that close,
39:12
but they're a little bit closer in the constructor's battle.
39:15
So it makes sense not wanting them to get the extra point.
39:17
That's kind of my, that's how I reason with it.
39:20
That's how I kind of see it.
39:21
That's fine, because they're doing it for themselves.
39:23
They're doing it to defend themselves.
39:24
But if they take away from like McLaren,
39:26
that'd be a different issue?
39:27
It'd just be weird, you know?
39:29
Okay, okay, fair enough.
39:30
It's just like, I don't understand
39:32
why you're going to the effort of doing that.
39:36
It doesn't make sense to me.
39:37
You want a point, man.
39:38
But they don't get a point because he's,
39:40
he did it. Oh, that's right.
39:42
He doesn't get a point.
39:43
You have to be in 10th or above, yeah.
39:45
That's right.
39:46
That's the part I forgot during this whole segment.
39:48
Awesome, awesome.
39:49
Yeah, so now you see where it's.
39:51
Yeah, no, now I can see.
39:54
Now, if anyone could get the point,
39:55
then it's like, yeah, it's chaos, I think, a little bit.
39:57
But I think that'd still be a fun little.
39:59
That's my vote, open it up for everybody.
40:01
Because then you'd get like the bottom 10,
40:03
or the bottom 13.
40:04
There's movement there now.
40:05
They're all pitting for reds.
40:07
They're all pitting for softs,
40:08
and they're just taking a crazy lap.
40:08
How crazy would that be, or is that a safety issue?
40:10
It would be crazy.
40:11
It's a safety issue.
40:12
You know, that's probably a safety issue,
40:12
because all these guys think they're the best driver
40:15
in the world, so they're going to go out
40:16
and try to prove it.
40:17
Seven cars taking a quality lap at the same time.
40:19
Yeah, that's a bad idea.
40:20
That's a bad idea.
40:21
Hilarious, but a bad idea.
40:23
Potentially not hilarious.
40:24
Yeah, potentially not hilarious.
40:26
Especially, they start catching the back markers of them.
40:28
Yeah, it's yeah.
40:29
Let's just try it at Abu Dhabi.
40:30
You know what?
40:31
Let's just throw out the whole box.
40:32
This is giving it all.
40:33
Abu Dhabi.
40:34
Yeah, let's try everything.
40:35
Let's try everything.
40:36
No more track limits.
40:37
Yeah, well, yeah.
40:39
Yeah.
40:41
And then explain to us this Red Bull illegal car function
40:44
with the wing or whatever it was.
40:46
I don't remember exactly what the function was.
40:50
People calling it a dial.
40:51
People just, they were just, it's just like,
40:53
there was something that Red Bull had in our car
40:55
that made it easier to, I think, change wing settings.
40:59
That was kind of in the gray area of the rules,
41:02
and it was determined to be illegal.
41:05
It was also determined that Red Bull was never using it.
41:08
At least they claimed that they were never using it
41:09
outside of Park Firm.
41:11
They had it there just for ease of use
41:14
and quickness when they were changing settings
41:17
during practice or quality, or practice rather,
41:19
and stuff like that.
41:21
And when the FIA said, no, you can't have this
41:23
just because you can use it inside the race easily,
41:26
they were like, okay, we'll get rid of it,
41:27
and that was it.
41:28
Allegedly.
41:29
So, it was an issue that was done and gone immediately.
41:33
So that was kind of that.
41:34
No harm, no fall, no slap on the wrist.
41:36
Yeah, no slap on the wrist.
41:37
Thank you Red Bull for paying our bills.
41:38
Yeah, I remember when the article first came out,
41:41
people were saying there was an unidentified F1 team
41:43
that had the secret dial.
41:44
Yeah, and everybody knew.
41:46
Everybody was like, yeah, secret F1 team, okay.
41:49
Yeah, and then real quick,
41:52
explain the whole Singapore deal
41:55
where Max swore during a press conference
41:57
and community service.
41:59
What?
42:00
This is old news, but it's hilarious.
42:02
Well, new to us, because we weren't here last week, right?
42:05
But old news.
42:06
Sure.
42:08
New to the podcast.
42:08
Singapore, Singapore.
42:09
New to the podcast, for sure.
42:11
But everyone else has probably heard of this a little bit.
42:14
That's fine, we're gonna bring it up again.
42:16
Yeah, I'm gonna bring it up because it's hilarious
42:17
and because you haven't heard of it yet.
42:18
Right.
42:19
So, I believe it was qualifying the post-Quality interviews.
42:26
Max had dropped the F word in the press conference
42:30
and one of the interviewers had told him
42:32
to please keep the language in check.
42:34
And then he went on a little bit of a monologue
42:35
about how cursing just happens,
42:37
like everyone's gonna hear it eventually,
42:38
like kids are gonna hear it eventually.
42:40
You know, it's whatever, right?
42:42
It's weird that we can't say our minds
42:44
whenever we want and stuff.
42:45
And then he went on that.
42:47
FIA gave him a fine and gave him community service hours
42:50
for doing those.
42:51
Wait, FIA gave him community service?
42:54
Yes, they gave him, they fined him for swearing
42:57
in that press conference
42:58
and gave him community service hours.
43:01
Now I'm thinking about, this was before qualifying.
43:03
All right, just keep that in mind.
43:04
This was before qualifying.
43:07
Qualifying happens.
43:08
He gets into the post-qualifying interview.
43:10
Every single question that gets asked by Max,
43:13
he answers with a single word or a single sentence
43:16
and that's it.
43:17
He doesn't elaborate on anything.
43:18
Pull on the Marshawn Lynch.
43:19
Yeah, one of the questions asked is,
43:21
are you going to answer any of these questions
43:24
or are you gonna elaborate on these questions?
43:25
He says, no.
43:29
And he's like, I'll answer them after the interview
43:31
if you want, outside of the room.
43:32
He's like, oh, we can do this.
43:33
He's like, sure.
43:35
Ooh, yeah.
43:36
He's like, why aren't you talking, Max?
43:38
He's like, I don't wanna get fined.
43:40
Oh, that's hilarious.
43:41
That was it, right?
43:42
That's hilarious.
43:43
And we saw photos of him outside of the press conference,
43:45
like in the paddock,
43:47
with a bunch of interviewers around him.
43:49
A bunch of, yeah.
43:50
Like actually interviewing.
43:52
Some, I think.
43:53
What's his community service, did it say?
43:55
It did say, I can't remember exactly what it was.
43:58
How does FIA, how'd they?
44:01
They got jurisdiction in the entire world then, or what?
44:04
No, no, no.
44:05
It's just that they want it to be accessible.
44:09
They wanna make money from these interviews,
44:11
and if they break some of their contracts
44:13
because they're swearing and stuff,
44:14
then they don't make money.
44:15
Fair enough.
44:16
And so they have to fine people for it.
44:17
But.
44:19
I wonder if community service for Max is just like,
44:21
you cannot race in your esports race this weekend.
44:24
I think it's gonna be a little more,
44:27
actually, I don't know.
44:28
I have no idea what community service.
44:30
I'm gonna look that up.
44:31
I didn't go into it, D.
44:32
I didn't either, but.
44:32
Because I didn't know.
44:33
It's possible he won't do it.
44:35
Like, I think.
44:36
And then get fined again, and then they'll be like,
44:37
all right, well, we took more of your money,
44:39
so I guess it's fine.
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Or do they stand true to it and be like,
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no, you have to do it.
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I mean, what are they gonna do?
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Kick Max out of F1?
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Kick Max out, that'd be crazy.
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I just don't see that ever happening.
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And he just stands by it.
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He's like, no, I'm not gonna do it.
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It sounds like most of the drivers side with Max.
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They think it's stupid that he got
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those community service hours.
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Sure, sure.
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Like, Lewis was sitting there,
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and he got asked a question about what he thinks about
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Max's community service hours.
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He's like, oh, I don't think he should do them.
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I think he should just not do them.
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He's like, that's what I would do.
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And he's like, oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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That's what I would do.
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So, yeah.
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So that was good.
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And after the race, everything was fine.
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He was back to normal and stuff.
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But it was just, from quality to the race,
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he was just, I was hilarious.
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It was the best.
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Yeah, awesome.
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So I just wanted to throw that out.
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That was a good time.
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No, that's funny as heck.
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But with that, let's head right to our Mexico preview.
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Okay.
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reviews
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And
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starting right off with the Mexican GP preview, I try to come up with funny names for Joe's
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little segments.
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I always fail, so I don't know.
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I called this one Joe's Gab Shack, which just doesn't make sense, but it's alright.
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So Joe, why don't you just take it away with that?
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Yeah, alright.
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And I always like starting this trying and butchering the name of the race.
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So it's the Formula One Grand Premier de la Ciudad de Mexico 2024.
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Ooh, that is in the running for the longest of the year.
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Yeah, definitely.
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It's probably second longest though.
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Yes, the Italian one was long.
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Yeah.
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I didn't throw an accent on it because it just seems wrong.
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The first Grand Prix was in 1963.
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In 2016, the race in 2016, Botas set the fastest ever speed trap in F1 history at 231 miles
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per hour.
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And our starting grid last year, we saw Charles, Carlos, and then Max.
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So wait, Charles, Carlos and Max?
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Yep, in that order.
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So Charles first, Carlos second, Max third.
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And then I believe this will be important, but Checo was in fifth, I believe, starting
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the race as well.
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Yeah.
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Okay, this is kind of a long one.
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So I'll get through this.
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Buckle up.
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Down the incredibly long straight off of the starting grid, we saw Max in third and Checo
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in fifth.
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We saw them get good starts and end up alongside both Ferraris by the end of the straight.
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Max was on the inside of the corner and he took it and he was able to quickly take first
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place.
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Checo was on the outside, however, and he cut into the Ferrari of LeClerc, getting onto
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his back tire on top of the Ferrari's fronts, destroying his own side pods and sending the
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Red Bull up in the air momentarily before crashing back down to earth, ending his home
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race on lap one.
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Charles unfortunately does not-
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Turn one even.
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Turn one.
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Yeah.
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Turn one.
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Ending his race on turn one.
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Yep.
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Charles unfortunately did not come out unscathed.
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He did suffer some front wing damage in the tussle.
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Coming into lap 33, we found K-Mag's Haas completely obliterated against the sidewall
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after his back left wheel just failed.
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I watched the replays.
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It just fell off.
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Oh yeah.
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His back wheel just snapped off.
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I'm watching it right now.
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It was completely-
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And it just sends him.
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Yeah.
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There's nothing he can do.
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It just snapped off.
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Just send him into the spinning into the wall.
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That's definitely not the craziest kind of damage I've seen to a car, but it was like
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his front, his backend was obliterated.
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It was destroyed.
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Go K-Mag.
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This does bring out-
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Go K-Mag.
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This one's not his fault though.
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Not his fault though.
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Yeah.
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This does bring out the red flag.
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On race restart, we see Max to Charles to Lewis with Carlos and Danny filling the fourth
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and fifth spots behind.
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We saw a lot of grid movement at the restart, notably Lando who restarted at 10th, falling
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to 15th after the first corner, and Russell making a quick overtake on both Piastri and
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Danny Rick for fifth.
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On lap 40, Lewis pushes ahead of Leclerc for the second podium position.
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Eight laps later, Sonoda with a great comeback fights Piastri for seventh place, making slight
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contact with Oscar during a corner.
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Lap 49, that contact is a little bit more severe, very reminiscent of Checo turning into Charles.
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Yuki does the same thing to Oscar, skips the bit where he flies into the air and instead
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spins off into the runoff.
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He falls down to 16th.
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Meanwhile, in the same lap, comeback kid Lando Norris makes an overtake for eighth place,
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seven places ahead where he fell at the restart, taking the overtake on Albion and sliding
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in behind his Papaya teammate.
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Lando catches up to Oscar and they swap position on lap 56.
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Thank you, thank you.
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Lando continues his climb on lap 60 and makes a wheel-to-wheel overtake on his old teammate
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Danny Rick.
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And on seven laps later, he finds the back end of Russell and makes another classic overtake
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to get into fifth place.
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By a 14 second margin, Verstappen takes victory at the 2023 Mexico Grand Prix, Lewis behind
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him taking the fastest lap point on the last lap.
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So our final was Verstappen to Hamilton to Leclerc, Sines, Norris, Russell, Danny Rick,
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Astri, Albion, and O'Conn.
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Lando made up 12 places over the course of the race, starting 17th and finishing fifth.
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Albion also had a decent climb starting 14th and finding ninth by the end of the race.
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And that was the 2023 Mexico Grand Prix.
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Good work.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, just watching Lando's overtake right here of George.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, he ran a pretty solid race.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think for starting so low, yeah.
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I think that we're not going to see Lewis Hamilton that high this week.
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No.
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No, I think something's going on with Mercedes.
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Now, I mean, I guess George raced himself a good race.
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Yep.
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I mean, again, we keep giving him the credit for a tough race this weekend.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know.
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It's tough to say.
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I don't think Verstappen will get the dub here.
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I don't have Merck in my podium.
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You who?
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I don't have Merck in my podium.
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Oh, Merck.
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OK.
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I don't think they're going to be super low or low in general.
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I would hope they're still top 10.
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They're going to be in points.
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Top, yeah.
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I think both cars will be in points.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, probably not at the level.
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I mean, Lewis was the second best driver last year and that's just not happening this year
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right now.
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So.
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But with how well Ferrari did last year, with how well Ferrari did last week.
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Yes.
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I think they're an option for me to be in my podium.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So with that said, we'll do a points update next week.
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Let's just say that you're in last.
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Because I am.
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No offense.
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But there's a good chance that you might still be there.
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And the two.
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Pretty tiptoeing around.
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Hey, I'm just, you know, there's still what?
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Six races left?
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Seven?
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Five, I think.
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Five?
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Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
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We're almost done.
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We're almost done.
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I thought it was six, but whatever.
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One, two, three, four, five.
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Six races, including Mexico City.
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Yes.
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So with that, you might as well go first, man.
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No bonus point this week.
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Why do I have to go first and last?
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Is that how, is that not how we've been doing it?
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No.
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Oh, all right.
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I'll go first.
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We've got to text the guys too.
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I know.
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I'm just, I'm a lot of sorts.
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I'm not changing.
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Nothing's going to change.
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I'll get Tyler and Cole's picks for this week.
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Again, no bonus point.
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So my podium.
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No bonus point.
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No bonus point.
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Did we not?
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Did we decide a bonus point?
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The only thing we could come up with was kick solvers finishing highest position.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Maybe no bonus point.
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No bonus point.
52:19
No bonus point.
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But if you want to guess kick solvers highest position, have fun.
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I got something to watch.
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But I guess for me, it's going to be, oh man.
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I think, I'm just going to cover them all, I guess.
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LeClaire, in no particular order, of course, like we've done all year, but LeClaire, Lando,
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and Max.
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What?
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Ditto.
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We better put on our tinfoil hats.
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I wrote that at home.
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He does have Max, Lando, Charles.
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So I mean-
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I wrote that at home.
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So this is a fun way to end the show.
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Yeah, this is anti-Clairemactic.
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That was pretty boring.
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I guess in true Cole fashion, should I change something and just put Bo-Toss?
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No, because we know that Cole's picks are going to be Checo, Colapinto, and Hulk for
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this race.
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That's probably what we should just put down.
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Oh man.
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You know, I mean, really quick.
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I'm not going to change my podium.
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I just do want to talk about Checo.
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This is his home race.
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Notoriously not lucky.
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I'd like to see him do well.
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I mean-
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Unless you hate the guy.
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I don't hate the guy.
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I just think it's a little ironic that, or not ironic, but a little funny kind of that
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it's his home race and he just cannot seem to get-
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Do you remember-
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That's how bad, that's why he crashed last year.
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Last year he crashed.
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He wanted to get out in front-
53:35
He wanted it so bad.
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Bad, right away.
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I'm going to read that and that's been in 2023.
53:40
I don't know if I mentioned this or not.
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I don't think I did.
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In 2023, he, no 2022 rather, he got third place and I remember the podium was Max Lewis
53:50
and Checo and people were booing Lewis when he got on the mic, like hardcore booing Lewis
53:56
to the point where-
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Well, what year was this?
53:58
What year was this?
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2022.
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Well.
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Yeah.
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You know, he was killing it.
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He was the Max of the era.
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He was, Checo is doing better than he's doing this year, that's for sure.
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Yeah.
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Well, so you're changing it.
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So you're going to take Max off the podium and put Checo up there.
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So Checo Lando Charles in that order?
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No.
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Okay.
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So we got the same podium, it is what it is, but thanks for joining me this week, Joe.
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Yeah, thanks for having me.
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You know, I know we're a day early than we normally record this puppy, but-
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That's okay.
54:33
Thanks for being flexible.
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I'm ready to talk F1 literally anytime.
54:36
Oh, okay.
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So we got another show coming tomorrow.
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No, but I guess, what do we got after Mexico City?
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After Mexico, we got Mexico, we got Brazil, we got Las Vegas, we have Qatar, and then
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we have Abu Dhabi.
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And those were off the dome.
54:52
I love that lineup.
54:53
Those were off the dome.
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Good work.
54:55
I love the lineup.
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Yeah.
54:57
Mexico is a great track.
54:58
Brazil's tough.
54:59
Brazil is like a roller coaster of a track.
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It's very up and down.
55:02
Las Vegas- Las Vegas is still kind of weird.
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It's new.
55:06
It's kind of- Vegas, I like, I found out I do like the racing at Vegas.
55:08
I hate the fanfare and the, you know, everything else around the weekend is annoying.
55:13
I hate that we have a race in our country that we got to watch at midnight.
55:17
Yeah, it's a bit rough.
55:19
But, hey, you know what I mean?
55:21
Whatever.
55:22
This is what it is.
55:23
Qatar, this is second year for Qatar, right?
55:25
And Qatar last year was rough on the drivers.
55:27
It was fun to watch, but it was rough on the drivers.
55:29
It was hot, right?
55:30
It was incredibly hot.
55:31
That's the one where the tires are falling apart.
55:33
This is the one, and the drivers are falling apart too.
55:35
I think Logan had to quit and I think Pierre, I think it was Pierre, he threw up in his
55:41
helmet mid-race.
55:42
Awesome.
55:43
Yeah, so good stuff.
55:44
And then Abu Dhabi, which is classic.
55:45
So, then we change our clothes.
55:46
Yeah.
55:47
Five more races though, and then that's it.
55:48
I love Abu Dhabi.
55:49
Five more races.
55:50
I know, I know.
55:51
I take us into December.
55:52
We're going to have to come up with a couple end of season shows or something.
55:56
Oh, I mean, yeah.
55:57
Talk about the single seat that's left.
55:58
No, I'm just kidding.
55:59
For an hour.
56:00
That seat will never be built.
56:01
I wonder, if I go back and see how many hours we spent on seats talking about driver seats
56:07
this year, it would be staggering.
56:09
It would be disturbing.
56:10
We're definitely, we're not going to be talking about it nearly as much next year.
56:13
Probably at all.
56:14
Probably at all.
56:15
Probably at all.
56:16
Yeah, there were one, I don't know.
56:17
We'll have a lot of rookies to talk about.
56:18
Yeah, yeah, a lot of rookie talk.
56:19
But anyway, we can keep going.
56:20
We can keep going.
56:21
But anyway, with that, that kind of wraps up Fast Laps, our United States GP recap, the
56:27
Mexico City preview.
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Don't forget to like, comment, subscribe wherever you listen to the banner, whether that's YouTube,
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Spotify, Apple Podcasts.
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And do we, do we got, we got another show next week?
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Yeah, three in a row.
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Boom, boom, boom.
56:41
Yeah.
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We'll see you next week for Fast Laps.