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Breaking Shabbat in Israel · None of Your Business Podcast

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  It says essentially a man, this Jewish hater, this anti semite,
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  I wanted to kill us all. Him receiving the ring of power
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  from the king did more to arouse the Jews than all of the
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  prophets that we had speaking to us from God.
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  Business Oshi, None of Your Business Michael, it's the None
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  of Your Business podcast hosted by Michael Anoshi.
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  Welcome back everybody, to another amazing episode of the
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  None of Your Business podcast. I'm your host, Michael
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  Greenfield, and with me here this evening is a very special
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  holy, holy, holy guest. It's actually amazing that
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  you're hearing this evening for so many reasons, but I'm going
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  to jump right into it. Elli, Yahoo, Elli, Yahoo and
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  Avi. It's Mosa Shabbos.
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  It's Saturday night. Where?
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  Right. How often do you record Mosa
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  Shabbat? We've done it once before.
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  Yeah. We've done some crazy things to
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  get, you know, guests. We do podcasts with intention.
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  Just like you make, you know, you make your bruhots with
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  intention, We do podcasts with intention.
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  I feel like, you know, we think about who our guests are going
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  to be. We jump right into it and, you
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  know, we try to be as authentic as possible.
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  Welcome. Thank you to our studio.
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  Welcome to America, to Muncie. Thank you.
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  Thank you for hosting us in your house and also here.
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  Thank you. I appreciate you being here.
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  Thank you to our subscribers, to our listeners, to the comments,
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  to all the good stuff. As long as we're getting
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  feedback, we're happy, we're fed, we're good.
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  Thank you to the Prime Minister's production team, of
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  course, to Steph, who's always ready and available to come out
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  in the middle of the night. Thank you, Steph, Thank, thank
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  you to your whole family. My pleasure.
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  And Elio, you know, I I didn't know how to pronounce your last
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  name. I'll be honest.
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  It was a Pereira. Pereira.
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  If you're American, Pereira. Pereira like Ferreira chocolate,
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  but like. Ferreira, but Pereira.
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  But Pereira, OK, that's an easy way.
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  I'm, I'm business partners with someone named Hellman and
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  someone had to come for an interview and he said just ask
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  for Mr. Hellman. Like the mayonnaise.
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  This woman comes in and she's like, I'm looking for Mr.
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  Mayonnaise. I'm like, you mean Mr. Hellman?
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  Are they on the Chinese telephone?
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  Exactly, exactly. Where's your family from?
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  What's? Tell me what the name is first.
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  So my dad is born in Brazil and our family is from the Spanish,
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  Portuguese Jews. That's where chased out of
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  Spain. So my family actually tried to
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  play the game a little bit and stay in the stay in Spain and
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  Portugal and to try to ride it out.
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  And eventually they ended up in Brazil.
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  And yeah, Roccozemi made it back, made it back to tour and
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  meet with my dad, made a big leap and found out he was Jewish
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  and. He found out he was Jewish.
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  Yeah. How did that happen?
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  He met someone and thought he spoke Spanish, but really it was
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  Ladino. And that led to him finding out
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  that we, we're from the, the Spanish and Portuguese Jews and
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  essentially that we were conversos and, and my dad moved
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  to Israel and learned tawa and, and made a big effort to, to
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  raise a house that was connected to, to Torre Mitos percussion.
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  So that's what my dad said. My mom's English, South African,
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  and yeah, I was born in Miami. Oh, really?
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  Lived in all of those countries and moved to Israel at 17.
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  So one second. So your father found that he was
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  Jewish when you were born already?
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  No, no, no. How old is he when he was a
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  teenager? He was a teenager, right?
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  So when you were first born, you were where?
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  I was born in Miami. You're born in Miami.
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  Yeah. So take me through your journey
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  real quick. Real quick from Miami to SWAT.
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  Like how did that happen? I, like I said, I grew up living
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  across the world as well and I ended up high school in Miami,
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  middle school, high school in Miami.
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  I don't understand what all the world means.
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  Where's the all the world? I lived in South Africa, I lived
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  in the Uki lived in Brazil and back in my, then came back to
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  Miami. And when I was in high school,
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  it wasn't going well and I realized I was in hanging around
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  with the wrong crowd and didn't really have much going for me in
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  the US. At what age?
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  I knew that from 7th, 8th grade. They became abundantly clear in
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  high school and at 17, after 11th grade, my assistant
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  principal said that I pretty much wasn't welcome back the
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  next year or if I did, I was going to be failing and there
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  was no way I was going to do 2 more years of high school.
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  So and I didn't want to be in the US.
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  So I told my dad, please Get Me Out of here.
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  Let me go back to Brazil or to to the UKI have family there.
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  I can I'll get by, it's OK. And my dad had never sent me to
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  Israel, never took me to Israel. So at 17 I got on a plane that
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  spot you. Asked for Brazil and he took you
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  to the spot. What am I missing?
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  There you go. He didn't even take me.
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  He sent me. So he told me to.
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  Go. To the spot What happened from
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  Brazil to the spot? So, no, the fact that my dad
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  never actually took me to Israel.
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  So it was an opportunity for me to go to Israel and there was
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  so. He brought it up.
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  He was like it. Was my dad's idea to go to
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  Israel? I didn't think about Israel.
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  No way. OK, for me it was not an idea.
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  Right you were. Your heart was set.
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  Brazil, UK. Let me get out of here.
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  Let me go live with my family and children.
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  And. That's amazing.
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  How did Israel come up? My dad, my dad started doing
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  Shiva when before my bar mitzvah and that changed everything in
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  the house. And as it grew it, it made sense
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  that like, you know, kids go to yeshiva at 1718.
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  So I think obviously that had a part in it.
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  But the fact that I, my dad was in Israel and was in the army
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  and had lived in Israel, and the fact that I never went, I had
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  already seen the world. It's not like, what am I going
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  to go see in the same places that I already I've already been
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  there. Israel, I had never I had never
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  got. Yeah, you.
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  Going to Israel? And everybody, I wanted to go
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  out. So it's either I'm going to end
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  up in the army or in the OR in yeshiva.
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  I told my dad I want to patrol from the army because I happen
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  to be Israeli. My dad's a citizen.
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  So I was born with a passport and everything and, and
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  essentially had to draft. But I told my dad, I don't want
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  to go to the army and I'm not going to yeshiva.
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  So I just, like, went to Israel. And there was a family, my dad
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  had a connection with a family in Swat.
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  And their daughter actually ended up in my house in Miami.
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  And I went after a while, I was very out of place in Swat.
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  And I liked Israel. It was nice.
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  But I, I told my mom, yeah, I mean, I'm coming back after
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  Hanukkah. And then I went to Yoshilaim and
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  I went into a yeshiva there at 17, and after two days there, I
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  was sold. I was yeah, Eric to sell
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  forever, said Your shalam changed everything for me.
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  Can you tell us which place it was where?
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  I was in North America. It was in North America
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  essentially. I mean, yeah.
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  And it wasn't if you know that area of your Shalam, it's not
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  exactly what the, you know, made me fall in love.
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  But but the city, the fact that there was again, coming from
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  Miami to Tvat, the old city of Tvat.
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  So I'm like with a haredi family.
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  So I was in the crazy culture shock.
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  But then to come to your shalam and to see people my age, people
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  chilling people, bars city. So I was like, oh, but with
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  Torah, with kipot, with tsitsit, and I just fell in love.
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  And then I met Aliyah. I went to the army.
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  You end up going to the army. And I said the both the things
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  that I told my dad I'm not going to do, I ended up doing, but on
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  my own initiative, right? I don't know how was it even
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  possible that you could not go to the army and not go to learn.
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  That's not a pop. Then you're on the run
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  officially, I'm saying. Right.
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  No, you can make it happen because I didn't make it.
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  Yeah, I had a patron from the army I did have, Oh, you did
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  have it before I even got on the plane.
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  How do how do people get petours?
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  Meaning of Petours I. Lived in Miami.
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  I grew up in Miami. I didn't live because I was
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  Israeli, so they said I I got a tough Rashon to my house in
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  Miami. By the way, if people don't.
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  What's the tough Rashon? If the first order of like to
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  show up to the Army for their first interview when you were
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  1617, so that was that letter was sent to my house in Miami
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  so. What was that like for you?
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  And who pays attention to that? I've never been to Israel in my
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  life. I'm not going to hear military.
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  I had no connection besides the fact that I'm a Jew and I pray
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  three times a day and but Israel like it was, it meant nothing to
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  me. My I knew my dad was in the
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  military and he fought in Lebanon, but not I'm not going
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  to the army. When I got there, I realized if
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  I want to live in Israel, that's how I lies.
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  What I'm about to say now is not my current belief and opinion
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  for the masses, but for me it was at 17.
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  If I want to live in Israel and make this my home, so I need to
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  learn the language, I need friends and I need to understand
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  how life goes here and in Israel.
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  Everything revolves around the army, whether you're connected
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  to it or not. The Israel of business, of
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  everything like that. Especially when I was there in
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  the beginning. Now it's becoming less and less
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  with more modernization and corporate and the software
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  companies and things like that. But even with that, it still is
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  very connected. So the connections you make in
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  the Army, where you served in the Army says a lot about you.
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  Sometimes it's, it's that kind of society.
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  So I figured if I go to the Army, there's a Ulpan program, a
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  Hebrew learning program that you can draft into three months,
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  9:00 to 9:00 every single day. Hebrew speak your language, you
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  came from the country you came from, you're getting in trouble
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  and then go into the regular service as a combat soldier.
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  I made a group of friends that we still have the same WhatsApp
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  group from 2012 until now talking over a decade of being
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  connected and trying our best to meet up and weddings and and I
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  speak Hebrew very well. I accomplished everything I set
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  out to get. And for me, it was a very
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  important thing and a very important step of changing my
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  life completely, of growing up compared to all of that in the
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  lap of luxury, no matter what level of, you know, money we had
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  in our family in different times.
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  Going to the military breaks you as a person in a good way,
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  hopefully. And it did.
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  It changed a lot for me, but it also took me away from Torah and
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  took me completely, like not in my mind.
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  I always believed in a shem and I was always connected.
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  But I stopped keeping Shabbat in the army and I started going out
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  partying more and connecting with different friends and
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  moving away from kedusha, even though I always had this kind
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  interconnection. And I put on Philly and if you
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  know, learn, I learned to out here and there.
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  I went to show him, but I never had a problem with Toronto.
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  I just, I couldn't keep up with it.
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  And only after the army, when I had a desire to start my life
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  and get married and settle down. So in my head, there was always
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  this. I always knew it.
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  Even when I was breaking Shabbat, I always knew like my
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  house is going to be a kosher house, no questions about it.
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  I know how to keep Shabbat. I know what Shabbat is.
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  I know what Fila is. I know what the Jewish values
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  are and I know all of that. There's no way I'm getting
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  married to a non Jew. There's no way I'm getting
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  married without me keeping toward me towards the best of my
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  ability, whatever I knew that to be as a public school kid in,
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  you know, in in South Florida. But I knew whatever it was, on
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  whatever level it was in, it was a necessity in my life.
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  And that essentially led me back when I I wanted to get married.
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  I moved to Miami. Then I met Gadalia Fence there,
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  Rabbnach one of wrestler Dalcemtov and flew back there to
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  sell, went back to yeshiva, started life all over again, got
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  married and Wilkesham. Now I live in Spud.
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  It's a in in one, you know. I mean, there's so much I want
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  to unravel there, to be honest with you.
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  Go feel free. I'm, I'm just thinking, first of
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  all, I I want to. Make a let's.
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  Do it. Let's do it to the fact that you
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  said publicly the following, which is if you're somebody that
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  you're not right now Shamir Shabbat, you're not right now
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  keeping kosher. And you know it's going to
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  happen one day and it's in your heart and it's it's in your
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  path. It's in your like you see it,
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  it's your destination where you're heading towards, but it's
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  difficult for you now. It's just challenging.
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  It's Lukheim to that Lukheim to understanding that that
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  challenge that many people have and it's just the way of life
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  and to what I say to that is Lukheim to you.
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  That's it. That's that's what I'm trying to
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  say. So I'm going to pour you some
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  wine here this. Is real.
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  One that you're representing Shatte Svat, Shatte Svat, can
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  you give us the 32nd history of this bottle of what we're doing
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  here and. This is a 2020.
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  What you're doing in America now?
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  Aven A savion OK from twat. Essentially, we we a bunch of
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  friends that together we've been all.
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  Right, let's do this Ready And three Baruchatah Donai Eloheno
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  Meleholam Bore PRI. Hagaffen, Amen.
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  That was for you or she. By the way, people out there, if
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  you ever hear Bracha recorded, it's not live.
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  Even if it is live, if it's streaming, don't say I'm in.
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  Really. Not allowed to.
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  Whoa. Correct.
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  Really. OK, if you're on the phone,
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  that's one thing. What's up's already a question.
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  OK, what do you what's up if voice not to you?
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  What do you mean? Is what's up.
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  Is essentially streaming and it's delayed.
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  OK, so you're hearing a recording, you're not actually
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  hearing the word? So when is it OK to say I'm in?
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  When? If you're on a phone, yeah, a
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  regular phone call. OK, that's actually the person's
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  voice at real time. OK, so that's the only time
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  you're like? When you when you're hearing it,
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  you're talking this. If you're not what you're saying
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  you're talking about, this is like a lot.
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  More modern because the microphones and red but modern
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  post scheme that I've ruled on this that a recording a tape
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  even back in the times of tapes they had as well.
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  What happens if you say a man is the lightning going to come
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  strike? Nothing like what's no what I'm
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  saying what what's the? Technically Novira.
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  Really saying the the a. Man, a man is a holy word, like
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  a bracha. Just like you're not allowed to
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  make a bracha when you're not meant to or make the wrong
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  bracha, so you're not allowed to say a man at the right improper
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  time. Very crazy things are written in
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  the kumara about saying a man in the wrong place.
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  But this is not a Alaka thing. I was just a disclaimer.
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  No, no, no, I don't care. I deal with it a lot with videos
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  people, but I know I I just, I like to mention it here and
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  there. Please.
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  I like learning. There you go.
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  This is something new to me. To you as well.
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  Yeah, I know. I never knew this.
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  It's listen. Meaning again, two people are
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  talking and having you can, yeah, you say a man, but when it
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  comes to brachas, so a man is essentially part of the bracha.
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  And if it's it's what's called amania Tomah an an orphan.
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  Amin has no reason to be said. And Amin is a holy thing.
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  There's many deeper secrets behind the word Amin.
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  And the whole idea, like we were talking about bracha is it's
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  it's not, it's not a simple thing.
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  There's I can show you afterwards.
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  Remind me, I'll show you on my phone.
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  But the Kabbalists have just one bracha.
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  It's called Madaba Bracha, the the Liturgy of the Blessing,
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  right? The how are you, how it's
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  made-up, It's pages and pages of intentions and Shem's names and
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  different spheres. With everything that's going on,
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  every time you make a bracha, you're changing the whole entire
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  world. So anytime those words, bohata
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  shem come out of your mouth, you're evoking and bringing into
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  the world a lot of energy that needs to come down in the right
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  place. And the Amen is the seal on it.
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  So to throw out in them in not for a good reason is not again,
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  knowing you're not evil for doing it.
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  It's not, you know, but. Right.
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  You know, I, I learned that people who live in Spot are
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  living in a different hemisphere and this is proof of that.
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  And it's not, it's, it's a compliment to you.
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  And I almost want to say that like, you know, I think that
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  you're allowed to be jealous of someone when they're living in
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  Israel. It's one of those things, right?
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  It should be. I should be right, it's sticking
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  to my face so I am jealous. Not suffering cannot suffering
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  meaning like you're an aspiration looking jealousy of
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  like you know it's a good thing not.
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  Yeah, no, no, 100%. When I'm hanging out in spot and
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  I'm with my good friend Rev Afshi Wangat.
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  Yes, if a cockroach walks by, he tells me like what the purpose
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  of it being here on the day and this time and the moon is.
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  He's able to do that then and it's.
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  Just unbelievable. It's just an unbelievable way of
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  life. You're exercising your mind
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  constantly and it's really, really cool actually to see, and
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  I appreciate that. In our city, we don't have the
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  ability to, to avoid noticing and paying attention to Ashika
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  Pratit even here. Honestly, there are a lot of
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  things even now just in your house.
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  Ashika Pratit is divine Providence.
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  The fact that Hashem shows up, God shows up in your life and
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  you're able to connect the dots and to see the hand of God in
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  the small details of your everyday life.
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  That's the Baal Shemtov was a revolutionary in this idea.
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  There's ways that you you see in the Rambam that only Sadiqim
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  live with full, only if fully righteous people live with
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  complete Ashka khaprati, it's complete divine Providence.
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  And the Baal Shemtov once took his students and Baal Shemtov is
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  the founder of the Hasidic movement and he took his
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  students once into the forest and he made them look at a tree
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  and then from a tree fell a leaf.
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  The leaf is twirling down and down and down and down and the
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  leaf lands and they're like, what do you want us to see here?
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  What's the lesson there be you say go, go to the leaf.
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  Go figure out what the lesson is and go.
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  They look at leaf. They lift up the leaf and they
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  see a bug underneath that was underneath the sun.
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  No shade. And now it's showing me the
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  barrack put some got to put shade on that, on that one
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  little bug. Meaning that even a bug and a
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  leaf is divine Providence. Even more so a human being in in
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  spots. We can't avoid it though,
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  because it happens so intensely. It does happen very, very, very
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  intensely for good and bad. You know, No, it's right now.
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  You can't run away. I I was laughing a second ago
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  because on the way here we were talking about the fact that you
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  had a podcast and what was the name of the podcast?
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  Two hussids in a pod. Like 2 peas in a pod, but two
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  hussids in a pod. Good, great days.
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  How many episodes did you have? 40 + 4043 something. 40 plus,
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  yeah. And that's by the
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  congratulations to you. Most people don't make it past
• 19:24
  10. I'm saying like so.
• 19:25
  That's it's not easy, yeah. You know that it's not easy.
• 19:27
  It was. Corona time though we had
• 19:28
  nothing to do. And your podcast was mainly
• 19:32
  about what? It was about Tor and Hasidic
• 19:36
  principles, but given over in not even this format we had.
• 19:41
  We sat at a table, we had a Lochai and it was like a for
• 19:44
  bringing like a Hasidic get together, just speaking from the
• 19:47
  heart and we try to give over different principles and
• 19:51
  snippets and insights into how to baochuva Hasidically inspired
• 19:57
  Jews are young Jews are living and and how we see the world.
• 20:01
  So let let's tap into that for a minute, if you don't mind.
• 20:04
  You know, we have the candle, we have the wine.
• 20:06
  I don't have the round table to the station.
• 20:08
  This table is cooler. It's a guitar table.
• 20:10
  It's a very cool table. But I, I do want to get into
• 20:12
  that in a minute because what, what I was saying a minute ago
• 20:14
  is I have a lot of divorced friends and a lot of them have a
• 20:20
  challenging time with Shabbat. And we talk about it all the
• 20:23
  time. And it's difficult when you
• 20:27
  don't have responsibilities other than yourself and you're
• 20:30
  alone for so many reasons. Yeah, that's why I stopped
• 20:35
  keeping Shabbat as well. Yeah, In the army, that was
• 20:37
  pretty much what it was, 21 days on base.
• 20:40
  You get out for two days, all the Americans are out partying,
• 20:43
  and you're keeping Shabbat at home.
• 20:46
  It's not easy. Can you take us back to that for
• 20:49
  a minute? Like, I'm just curious if you
• 20:51
  don't mind. Like I'm, I'm fascinated by this
• 20:54
  topic in general because of the way you put it.
• 20:57
  And that's what I was saying before earlier to you.
• 20:59
  I am to you and I I really. If I could spend the entire time
• 21:02
  talking about this, I would. Take you back to it.
• 21:08
  Yeah, no, just the understanding.
• 21:09
  If you don't mind me, I'm. An 18 year old kid.
• 21:12
  OK, I'm I'm assuming that the Jews that are watching this most
• 21:17
  likely grew up keeping Shabbat for the most part, but I didn't
• 21:23
  fully and even when I did, it was half.
• 21:27
  And then I went back to a public school the day after, right.
• 21:30
  And, and if I could sneak my phone or my Xbox on Shabbat, I
• 21:36
  was, I was doing it. I.
• 21:38
  Just want to go back to the first time when it happened even
• 21:40
  like yeah. No, So.
• 21:42
  So I'm saying no, I'm saying in my own personal life, Shabbat
• 21:44
  never was exactly what it was for you growing up even Never.
• 21:48
  I never had. Like, I understood that there
• 21:50
  were things you're not allowed to do.
• 21:51
  But practically speaking, I wasn't there.
• 21:54
  My family wasn't there, so, but I didn't know.
• 21:57
  I knew outright. OK, whatever.
• 22:00
  A kid can know of Shabbat, right?
• 22:02
  You know, electricity is forbidden.
• 22:03
  You know that, you know, you can't get in a car.
• 22:05
  And there's things that you know, when I got into the army,
• 22:09
  now I'm 1819, 20, and I'm all day long on base with people
• 22:17
  that are don't think like me, don't even I barely speak the
• 22:20
  language. And I'm not exactly with like my
• 22:24
  boys, my friends, people that I get along with and have the
• 22:28
  similar interest in where it happened to be in fighting
• 22:30
  together. And we have to love each other.
• 22:33
  We have to get along. And when I get off base.
• 22:37
  So when I lived, when I lived in your Shalaim, and this is more
• 22:40
  relevant to everybody. When you live in a community
• 22:42
  that has Shabbat that you have the ability to go to meals.
• 22:45
  If you're single, divorced, single, same thing, right?
• 22:48
  You have the ability to go to to a meal.
• 22:50
  You have the ability to you have a show, you have a show that you
• 22:54
  have some sense of community, that you have who to keep
• 22:57
  Shabbat with. People forget this.
• 22:58
  We're a tribal people before we're a nation.
• 23:01
  We're we're a family, grandfather, son, grandson,
• 23:07
  tribes, then a nation. And the tribal aspect never
• 23:11
  really left us. Exile has clouded it up.
• 23:15
  And come to Swat Singh, the Khadodi, you feel you're back in
• 23:19
  the tribe again, a little bit different.
• 23:22
  So when you have that, so then yeah, you can struggle with
• 23:27
  Shabbat. But it's still, at least you
• 23:30
  have the structure, you have the infrastructure there for you to
• 23:32
  keep the Shabbat to, to tap in as much as you can.
• 23:36
  In the middle of my Army Service, quite early actually, I
• 23:40
  moved to Renana. And in Ranana I wasn't in even a
• 23:45
  religious part of Ranana. I was in like an older no life,
• 23:51
  no, nothing, no Shabbat, no. And there was a bus to Tel Aviv
• 23:59
  that there was. And to get off and to know that
• 24:02
  for the next 48 hours I have to sit in my apartment by myself
• 24:05
  and eat crackers and challa and tuna.
• 24:09
  I, I get disgusted about it on base to, to eat it now as my
• 24:12
  Shabbat meal. It's not Shabbat.
• 24:15
  So is that right? No, it's not right.
• 24:17
  But really, I remember those that thought process back then.
• 24:21
  This is very dangerous. But I'm being real again.
• 24:23
  And I'm talking about it that right now as a kid, I, I need, I
• 24:29
  need social life. I personally am a very strong
• 24:32
  person. I can understand completely how
• 24:35
  a person can fall into depression and not pick themself
• 24:38
  up from that. Like, I was a kid that didn't
• 24:41
  want to be in America because I saw how I was going.
• 24:43
  So there, I didn't want to go crazy, so I stopped keeping
• 24:47
  Shabbat. That's what it was back then.
• 24:49
  Really. If I do not hang out with
• 24:51
  friends, if I don't get life every 25 days, 21 days, 16 days,
• 24:57
  when I get off base, if I don't go out, I'm not going to be me.
• 25:01
  I'm it's not going to last. Forget Shabbat.
• 25:05
  As a human, I'm not going to have life.
• 25:09
  And now looking back, I could say the right thing to do was to
• 25:13
  move back to your Shalayam, to move to Akila, to move to a
• 25:15
  place where I had and I would have.
• 25:18
  Now if I had to go to the army, I would be more so nefesh on
• 25:20
  that. I wouldn't.
• 25:22
  I would give my life to not give up on Shabbat for what I know
• 25:24
  for Shabbat means to me now. Not a day in my life would not.
• 25:30
  No money in the world could make me break Shabbat.
• 25:33
  Nothing in the world besides a human life would make me break
• 25:37
  Shabbat and buying a house in Israel from a non Jew.
• 25:40
  That's a it's allowed on Shabbat.
• 25:42
  What are you talking about? Allah get out of here.
• 25:45
  If a non Jew owns property in Israel and you have the ability
• 25:48
  to buy it on Shabbat, you do everything needed including
• 25:51
  talking to banks, wire transfer, writing check, every single
• 25:55
  thing driving anything you need to do Wow.
• 25:59
  And you know that exists now in Israel from Arabs that own
• 26:03
  houses there. Too many of them.
• 26:07
  I'd love to get into that too in a minute, but you?
• 26:10
  Just you had a whole podcast though with the.
• 26:12
  Exactly with the Shabbat thing now, the reason why I was I
• 26:14
  wanted to talk about that also is because you mentioned that
• 26:16
  you had a podcast of two husses and a pod and it was deep.
• 26:20
  And that's what I was saying, like, you know, so if you want
• 26:22
  to connect the dots for a second, if you don't mind, and
• 26:25
  then we'll get back to the. Wine we forgot, I just.
• 26:27
  Want to connect? I'm good with jumping back and
• 26:29
  forth by the way. What does Trump call it?
• 26:31
  Weaving. Weaving.
• 26:33
  I have no idea. Just connecting the dots there.
• 26:38
  So if you were doing your own podcast and you're looking back
• 26:43
  at that journey of not keeping Shabbat and keeping Shabbat and
• 26:47
  knowing and and and I brought up this topic specifically because
• 26:54
  people who put on filling on people stop people on the
• 26:57
  street. Yeah, put on filling or come
• 26:59
  from me Shabbat or put on a keep on this and that.
• 27:02
  I'm always curious about the people that are not observant.
• 27:05
  Do they get annoyed by it? Is it annoying?
• 27:08
  Is it something that you want us to do?
• 27:10
  Do you want us to draw to to draw you back into Shabbat or do
• 27:14
  you want us to bring you back to kosher or to fill in or coming?
• 27:17
  Join a mignon or come learn a little bit.
• 27:21
  I was never had. I never had the opportunity to
• 27:23
  ask anyone this question. And I'm asking it to you, and I
• 27:26
  want you to put yourself in the mode of the podcast and talk
• 27:29
  about this topic for a minute if you can.
• 27:35
  If you ask me as a person that was not religious, do I want
• 27:39
  that that that Eliao that was in the army that wasn't keeping but
• 27:45
  knew what it was? Yes.
• 27:47
  Every Khabadnik, every person that invited me to a minion, any
• 27:49
  rap that showed up to my base was literally like the best
• 27:58
  fresh of breath air. It was like, like, imagine a
• 28:01
  fish lived out of water and that mitzvah was like being thrown
• 28:06
  into the ocean for a second for however long it lasted.
• 28:10
  I remember being on base and a rabbi showing up and I run out
• 28:13
  of bed. I didn't care how tired I was.
• 28:15
  And I'm going to hear Torah. I remember that.
• 28:17
  So on the side of the Rakasha, my brother, the Khabad Nikim
• 28:22
  that go around and, and I'm, I'm bringing people closer and doing
• 28:26
  mitzvah and pushing people to connect.
• 28:29
  If it's done with Derek Eretz and it's done it the right way,
• 28:32
  100% obviously everybody human beings can be annoying right
• 28:36
  then. But yes, as a there's definitely
• 28:41
  people. Again, there's a not, there's a
• 28:47
  person that could be Jewish that never had a connection.
• 28:50
  He doesn't know anything. There's a person that's never
• 28:57
  never been religious, but he has a bad taste for religion.
• 29:01
  There's a person like me that I was never religious growing up
• 29:04
  until 11/12, right? But I loved, I went to shul, I
• 29:09
  went to Rosh Hashanah, I went to Yom Kippur in a Orthodox shul
• 29:12
  and, and Shabbat that we did Kedush and I wasn't religious.
• 29:16
  So Pheline, you're going to ask me, Of course, I'll put on
• 29:18
  Pheline where I'm Israel, where is it right.
• 29:23
  So I can't answer for everybody, but me personally, yes, every
• 29:27
  single person like that was a was a a beautiful gift from
• 29:31
  Akash Baraku from Hashem. Now with what I know dealing
• 29:37
  with people and essentially trying to help people and Jews
• 29:42
  specifically come closer to Hashem every day.
• 29:45
  That's my that's what my what life surrounds.
• 29:51
  I think that Mish Patim, we just had not to time this podcast
• 29:56
  right. Don't worry, it's.
• 29:57
  Not going to sit since. By the way, I recorded in
• 30:03
  September, I said a Torah by he put it out.
• 30:08
  Wow, wow. OK.
• 30:11
  And and Parashat Mispatim Ramire Liao says.
• 30:14
  That but by the way, stuff in in one year, let's please.
• 30:20
  Don't and and it says that when Mispatim has shut the similith
• 30:24
  name, these are the laws that you should place in front of
• 30:25
  them. Ramire Liao says these are the
• 30:26
  laws you should place in front of them.
• 30:27
  Ramirez, you should place in front of them.
• 30:28
  Sometimes when you make and he's about you by himself as well.
• 30:31
  Ramirez Liao says that sometimes all you have to do is put
• 30:34
  something in front of a person. Sometimes you, all you have to
• 30:38
  do is just, you know, give them a book, send them a link.
• 30:43
  No, you don't have to force them.
• 30:45
  And, and I believe in that unless a person is asking, if a
• 30:51
  person's asking me personally with a gauge, but if they're
• 30:56
  already asking, go. But if they're not asking and
• 31:01
  you're trying to get them in, so then you have to be very wise
• 31:05
  about it. And I think that the best way is
• 31:07
  by living that example, making Torah cool.
• 31:11
  That's the thing for me too on Shabbat, Why didn't I keep
• 31:13
  Shabbat? And I think that's why a lot of
• 31:14
  people struggle with Shabbat. If your approach to Torah is
• 31:19
  always kind of honest reward and punishment.
• 31:21
  And you're going to go to, again, known if you do this
• 31:23
  wrong on Shabbat and you're going to go to Ghana.
• 31:25
  And if you do this right on Shabbat and it's all about what
• 31:28
  am I going to get out of Shabbat?
• 31:30
  So you don't really have Shabbat.
• 31:32
  You have a very shallow level of Shabbat.
• 31:35
  But it's not the relationship Shabbat that me personally that
• 31:38
  I have right now, I'm not saying this, God forbid from ego.
• 31:41
  It's a gift that Hashem opened my eyes to deeper Torahs and a
• 31:44
  deeper way of living. But that level of relationship,
• 31:49
  that's why I said I'm not willing to give up on it, not
• 31:51
  for any money in the world, not anything.
• 31:52
  Because it's not about do the wrong action, do the right
• 31:56
  action. My Shabbat is, it's a 25 hour
• 31:59
  meditation that I'm not willing to give up on and it's
• 32:03
  everything. Everything's in there.
• 32:06
  All of life comes, a life comes alive on Shabbat.
• 32:10
  So do I want everybody to keep Shabbat?
• 32:15
  Yeah. But I don't think that it's like
• 32:19
  to invite a person to Shabbat is very important to give them
• 32:23
  exposure, to make them feel welcome.
• 32:26
  And Ellie Deutsch has got a big influence on me.
• 32:31
  And everybody for many, many, many years helped me.
• 32:35
  There's an old city in Jerusalem.
• 32:37
  And at his table in Shabbat he always would have, from seminary
• 32:41
  girls, yeshiva boys, birth writers, the whole world at his
• 32:44
  table. It's the Old City in the Rover,
• 32:46
  right? So I went there a lot and
• 32:51
  usually was further along the line, religiosity and
• 32:54
  spirituality than the majority of the table and the Baltruva
• 32:59
  learning tour and everything. And he always used to tell me,
• 33:03
  don't speak Alaka at my table, don't bring up Alaka at my
• 33:05
  table. And it would drive me crazy as a
• 33:09
  Baltruva, you know, learning and like you're Alaka and you're
• 33:12
  changing everything and you know how important Alaka is.
• 33:15
  It would drive me crazy that he would tell me like my Rob is
• 33:18
  telling me on my table not to speak Alaka now on my table,
• 33:23
  same rule, pretty much. Not exactly, but the same ruach,
• 33:27
  the same energy, the same vibe. Why a fresh balchuva?
• 33:31
  The thing he needs right now is not a Laka.
• 33:34
  He does need to learn it. What he needs more than anything
• 33:38
  is the fact that a sham is everywhere.
• 33:40
  What is a sham? How to talk to a sham?
• 33:42
  How to bring a sham into your life?
• 33:44
  How to make everything have meaning, How to.
• 33:47
  That's the most important thing. And if you do it right, then
• 33:51
  they're going to realize they need a Laka, and they're going
• 33:53
  to realize they want to learn a Laka, right?
• 33:56
  But first, build a relationship before the law book.
• 34:00
  Yeah, yeah. You live now in Swat, of course.
• 34:03
  So you're Shabba Sam are very holy.
• 34:05
  It must be. You've been there.
• 34:06
  Very, very cool. I'm saying yeah, I've been there
• 34:08
  only for once, you know, I'm saying it's, it must be an
• 34:11
  ongoing thing. It's not just a one time thing.
• 34:14
  You have any cool traditions that you do for Shabbos?
• 34:16
  Just curious before I get back to the wine thing.
• 34:19
  So tradition and personally in my house, in my house, I
• 34:28
  personally wear a jalapia who I think you.
• 34:32
  Oh, the whole white. Robe thing, I think you even
• 34:34
  wore them, yeah. I put it on.
• 34:36
  I tried, it's been on one. Foot, Some of you wore them.
• 34:40
  I don't know if everybody did, but why do you?
• 34:42
  Wear that. What's that?
• 34:43
  What's? Beggedyvri classic.
• 34:48
  I don't know. It's the Moroccan.
• 34:51
  It's I, I just I've always been me personally, I have from from
• 34:54
  when I'm a child, very connected to Moroccans.
• 34:57
  I'm, I'm Sparty. I don't look it.
• 34:58
  But within this farty world, I'm Spanish, Portuguese, which the,
• 35:03
  the, the Nusak, the the ADA, the tradition is not so alive.
• 35:08
  And my personal closest attachment is to the Moroccan
• 35:13
  brothers that we have and their tradition.
• 35:14
  There's Sadiq Hum and their songs and and also the dress
• 35:18
  kind of stuck on social Shabbat. I have my, I have my Moroccan
• 35:21
  dress and, and whatever. What other traditions do we
• 35:25
  have? Michael, you remember that Yasi
• 35:30
  Green also from that couple that he met on the plane, they were
• 35:37
  Moroccan and he also, they also put on those.
• 35:41
  Yeah, listen, I don't know. For me, I, I have a Rebbe that's
• 35:46
  a, a big Sadiq and being by him is super special in Shabbat.
• 35:50
  And so that she sheets for me is a huge thing for me personally.
• 35:53
  So that she sheets the third meal of Shabbat is the highlight
• 35:56
  of my week. It's the most important time of
• 35:58
  my whole entire week. And I I very rarely am willing
• 36:04
  to give up on it. Really, I don't mean to make
• 36:07
  this about me in terms of this conversation and maybe it most
• 36:11
  of our listeners don't even care about Sudhachli sheet, but shala
• 36:15
  shuddh, right? I sleep through shala shuddh.
• 36:19
  So maybe you can tell me. I'm sure I'm willing to learn
• 36:21
  and I'm I'm open. For sure, and especially in
• 36:24
  Shabbat, when we come, we come into Shabbat from the six days
• 36:27
  of the week, 6 days of the week is this world.
• 36:30
  Shabbat is the world to come. So the night time, the
• 36:34
  kabbalists explain it is the energy of Bina.
• 36:36
  Bina essentially is all of our passion and our yearning and our
• 36:42
  our drive for, for holiness. That's a Friday night.
• 36:45
  We sing Kabala Shabbat and Kedush and the meal is filled
• 36:48
  with song and all that connection.
• 36:50
  Why? Because we're this is how I
• 36:52
  understand it. This is how I explain it after
• 36:54
  my learning in these types of teachings that we're essentially
• 36:58
  fighting to come out of the week into Shabbat.
• 37:00
  That's why that fire, Bina is connected to the fire as well.
• 37:03
  The passion that's aroused on on the night.
• 37:05
  The morning is more connected, they say, to Hokhmah, which is
• 37:09
  more relaxed. Beetle giving in to a sham,
• 37:11
  nullifying Shabbat morning wake up, this long davening, sitting,
• 37:17
  you know, you just, you're giving in.
• 37:18
  You have to be there, you're there.
• 37:20
  Obviously there's a more beautiful sight to it as well.
• 37:24
  When you get to Sudarshan sheet, it's everything together.
• 37:27
  It's the fire, the singing, the passion, and also it's the end
• 37:31
  of Shabbat. You're tired, you've already
• 37:33
  eaten, but here you are forcing yourself again to do it, be told
• 37:36
  to Hashem. You're giving it to Hashem.
• 37:38
  You're keeping a mitzvah, you're giving oneg to Shabbat and the
• 37:41
  song and the Torah that comes down at that moment.
• 37:44
  It's the it's Ketter. It's, it's the highest level
• 37:47
  that you can reach in the whole entire week.
• 37:49
  It's called the will of wills in the Czar.
• 37:53
  And I, I don't know how to explain and put it into words,
• 37:56
  but I've seen countless miracles and I've had countless deep
• 38:02
  experiences and a heart opening crying sessions and complete
• 38:09
  attachment to whatever level I can reach to a sham.
• 38:12
  And the most frequent time when it happens is Sada Shashid.
• 38:16
  So wow, yeah, it's Sada Shashid is a integral part of my life.
• 38:23
  I've OK, yeah, I get. I know it's maybe not so no.
• 38:28
  No, no. And I also know most people
• 38:29
  don't live in spots and have what we have there, so I can
• 38:32
  understand. But today I have to say brokers,
• 38:34
  I'm here in Pomona. I had a very beautiful Sulacius.
• 38:37
  It was nice. It was.
• 38:39
  All right, I'm I'm sure that my shul has a beautiful Sulacius
• 38:43
  and it's just too, too challenging for me.
• 38:45
  I am tired at the end of like you said, but you're but you're
• 38:48
  saying is and something that I learned recently about loving
• 38:52
  God is that there is a one side of it which is loving God and
• 38:56
  the other side to balance it is being in awe of God.
• 38:58
  The era of. God, it's both you right and
• 39:00
  that and that's true love, right?
• 39:02
  If you if you're with your wife, you only keep the the wedding
• 39:06
  contract. It's not really the best
• 39:10
  marriage. Right.
• 39:10
  So you got to, you mean you got to suffer, you're saying?
• 39:14
  No, no, that's that's the wedding contract is the the, you
• 39:18
  know, just the what I have to do what I commit to, but no, I get
• 39:21
  it. And beyond the.
• 39:22
  Reason why I'm, the reason why I'm saying it is because you
• 39:24
  specifically said that it's difficult for you and yet you're
• 39:27
  doing it anyways. So I'm, I'm trying to accept
• 39:30
  that and saying even if it might be difficult for me, it's part
• 39:33
  of growing in my connection to God is doing something that's
• 39:36
  not so easy for me. So yeah, you know, so because
• 39:38
  someone asked me over a year ago, his name is Doobie and he's
• 39:44
  an awesome dude. And we were schmoozing about
• 39:46
  loving God and serving God. And he said, why do you keep
• 39:48
  kosher? I said because I love kosher.
• 39:51
  Why do you keep Shabbat? Because I love Shabbat.
• 39:52
  And every single question he was asking, because I love it.
• 39:54
  I love it, I love it. And then we both realized that I
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  don't do anything out of era. I don't do anything out of awe
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  of God. I do everything out of love.
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  So therefore I had a difficult, a difficult time with Fila, with
• 40:04
  praying and with. Another that everything comes
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  down to Tefilla, but that's so my Sudarshishi this is
• 40:13
  essentially a a very powerful Tefilla tila for me is
• 40:17
  meditation and it's a connection to Hashem.
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  You can talk and you can and that time is the sweetest time
• 40:25
  to go into it. But yeah, I also on Tefilla,
• 40:29
  there's the sign of showing up three times a day and and
• 40:32
  standing there for an hour and going through 100 pages and.
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  And also we don't get taught as kids that it's a meditation time
• 40:37
  to connect to God. We're taught that if you don't
• 40:39
  say these words exactly, you know, we had someone more Robbie
• 40:41
  on the podcast the last I think last time.
• 40:45
  We're going to probably do this episode after and he was talking
• 40:49
  about changing the sitter and that got a lot of attention.
• 40:51
  There are people that are that have commented that they're
• 40:53
  working on and they have already see durian that can you can
• 40:57
  teach young boys and girls the true meaning and the value of
• 41:01
  the words while you're saying it's a kudos to MO for bringing
• 41:03
  that up. And so if I have to share this
• 41:05
  with you because it happened on my ECAP, right?
• 41:09
  Speaking of Morocco, so many people did not go to ECAP and
• 41:13
  they went to Morocco because laser trying to make a wedding.
• 41:15
  ECAP is a nursing home trade show that happens once a year.
• 41:18
  It's more like a conference. It's a high level conference
• 41:20
  with bankers and owners and service providers, vendors, they
• 41:23
  all get together and it's very, very high level.
• 41:26
  You know the cost of it is high, but the return of it is also
• 41:29
  high, like everything else in life.
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  I hope. So I'm walking around ECAP and
• 41:35
  you know, I keep getting like Pats in the back and you know,
• 41:37
  every two feet like, oh, I heard the MO Robbie podcast, loved it.
• 41:41
  You know, I heard the Shimmy J podcast, love the Shimmy J, MO
• 41:43
  Rod because Shimmy J came on and he recommended MO Robbie and the
• 41:46
  MO Robbie came on and I'm talking to a group of like 10
• 41:48
  people and we're all talking about the podcast.
• 41:50
  But I'm like, guys, you know what's interesting?
• 41:52
  I had a spy that got arrested and served in prison his pretty
• 41:57
  much his whole life. I had a United Airlines pilot
• 41:59
  who dropped the first bomb pretty much on Afghanistan.
• 42:03
  I've had so many interesting people.
• 42:04
  All you guys care about is MO Robbie.
• 42:06
  I'm like, wow, you know, like Jimmy J like that's a big and
• 42:09
  I'm like, but but what really happened and transformed for
• 42:13
  this podcast specifically from that conversation, actually, to
• 42:15
  be honest with you, is that people liked the depth and the
• 42:18
  authenticity of a real raw conversation that goes in a that
• 42:23
  they would talk about if they were sitting right here, you
• 42:25
  know, and I almost wish I had more chairs and more cameras and
• 42:29
  lights and so on that to have people enjoy a conversation.
• 42:32
  And a lot, many times I'm in a conversation and people will be
• 42:34
  like, this is a podcast. This is what I'm like, I guess
• 42:38
  my whole life I've been living a podcast, but it was just
• 42:40
  interesting. But MO also brought something up
• 42:42
  that I want to ask you about. And he was talking about the
• 42:46
  whole movement of thank you, Hashem and those type of things.
• 42:49
  And you mentioned the Baal Shema?
• 42:52
  What's that, by the way, started in Spot?
• 42:53
  What started in Spot? Thank you Hashem.
• 42:55
  Really. Their inspiration was from Thank
• 42:57
  you Hashem of Swat there. Tell me about it.
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  It's a two friends of mine that started a thank you Hashem with
• 43:02
  little, you know, the Livestrong bracelets and it was thank you
• 43:07
  with AU Hashem and. Who were these guys?
• 43:13
  Mushi, David Klein and and Gabriel Schmolyzile to.
• 43:18
  Why did they start it? They're in love with Hashem.
• 43:21
  They wanted to spread. OK, so they made bracelets.
• 43:23
  Yeah, OK. And it you can't call how long
• 43:26
  it was ownership and thank you, Hashem, if anybody gets it, it's
• 43:30
  Musharraf in or Davida Melek. It's that so so they they said
• 43:35
  go ahead, do your thing in New York and it became this
• 43:38
  beautiful thing. But go ahead.
• 43:39
  I'm just no. No, I want to hear that.
• 43:40
  What do you mean? Go ahead and do.
• 43:41
  Someone met them and said something.
• 43:43
  Yeah, those it spread and then they turned it into what it is
• 43:48
  now. Someone saw it in spot.
• 43:50
  You're saying You're saying a. Lot of things start in spot and
• 43:52
  spot doesn't get the credit. That's why I felt the need to,
• 43:55
  you know, just because. That's why I.
• 43:56
  I personally feel that if more people understood how many
• 43:59
  things came out of Spot that changed the whole entire Jewish
• 44:02
  face of the world, more people would come to Spot and try to
• 44:05
  find that that sparked themselves.
• 44:07
  Like I'm from some Spot wine. You know what, let's jump right
• 44:12
  into that first, then tell me about the spot wine.
• 44:14
  I'll go back to thank you in a second.
• 46:34
  But by the way, two of the most challenging words to spell.
• 46:37
  I mean, really. Well, it's going to be linked
• 46:39
  under the Billy door. I'll comment below everything
• 46:42
  you need. You know that spot on ways is
• 46:44
  spelled? Safed 1,000,000 different ways
• 46:46
  like safed, Zephad, zephad, zephad with AZ with.
• 46:50
  AI have to I have to help you with coming up with a new name
• 46:52
  of the website. Go ahead.
• 46:53
  But so to get into the details, there are over 20 mitzvot
• 46:59
  commandments in the Torah that are directly connected to
• 47:03
  agriculture and are only relevant to the agriculture of
• 47:07
  the Land of Israel. 20 around, you're saying that's a lot.
• 47:10
  I thought it was OK. Breaking down, it comes minimum.
• 47:13
  Examples. For example, when you plant a
• 47:15
  new tree, you're not allowed to eat from it for three years.
• 47:18
  A fruit tree. On the fourth year, you have a
• 47:21
  commandment to bring the first fruit to the temple in Jerusalem
• 47:24
  or to Nowadays we don't have the temple.
• 47:26
  We sanctify it and we don't use it.
• 47:29
  There is Shmita, the sabbatical year of resting the land, which
• 47:33
  is a ginormous mitzvah, which are essentially whole entire
• 47:36
  life surrounds. We don't, we're not so conscious
• 47:39
  of it because again, we're in exile.
• 47:40
  But it is real and there are people that still keep it.
• 47:44
  In Israel, it's pretty real. Correct.
• 47:45
  It's very real in Israel. It's real, right?
• 47:48
  I'm just for the broader Jewish people that we grew up here.
• 47:51
  Right. We don't feel it at all.
• 47:52
  It's interesting. But and when you get into
• 47:55
  agroosers in Israel, it's very felt the 6th, 7th, 8th year are
• 47:59
  it's life changing times for them and all of these mitzvot
• 48:06
  again, even as an as a person that lives in Israel, I don't do
• 48:09
  them. If I don't do them, I'm not
• 48:11
  involved in them. Some are OK to promote my soil
• 48:14
  to buy fruits from an Arab, I have to do that.
• 48:17
  But if I go to the supermarket or if I go to my local grocer,
• 48:21
  it's already done for me. So how much am I really doing
• 48:24
  it? I'm not.
• 48:25
  Most Israelis are not. If you're a farmer, you are.
• 48:29
  Or if you have a garden in your house, maybe you're involved in
• 48:31
  it, right? You have some trees in your
• 48:33
  backyard. Maybe you're getting to Truman
• 48:34
  and Masoud. So it's an amazing thing that
• 48:38
  the Torah has so much to say about.
• 48:41
  For example, in the Midrash of Somalaya, asked the question,
• 48:45
  why did Michelle Bennu want to go into the land of Israel so
• 48:48
  badly? He paid 515 prayer is just to go
• 48:53
  inside the land of Israel and he asked the question, does
• 48:59
  Musharra Banu need its fruit? So as Jews right, we answer
• 49:05
  every question with questions. So there's a few questions you
• 49:08
  can ask on this question. Why does the word sorry need and
• 49:14
  not want? And why would this Rav from the
• 49:20
  times of the Tanayim and have a question on Musharra Benu?
• 49:26
  What do you need to eat the fruit in the land of Israel?
• 49:28
  That's the thing that Musharra Benu needs to eat fruit.
• 49:30
  It's a question, right? Valid question.
• 49:34
  Good question. So the teaching is that Musharra
• 49:39
  Benu really the deficit that Musharra Benu had the highest
• 49:43
  level of the era of all possible.
• 49:46
  So does he need fruit of the land of Israel?
• 49:50
  Well, shame needs more awe. But what does that say about the
• 49:53
  fruit of the land of Israel? That it gives you awe of God, It
• 49:56
  gives you yhachamayim. So the question was, does
• 49:58
  Mushair Abedu need the fruit of Israel?
• 50:00
  That he needs to go inside of the land of Israel?
• 50:02
  He needs more yhachamayim that he has to go bad so bad.
• 50:04
  And he already spoke to God face to face.
• 50:06
  What more does he need? That means for all of us, the
• 50:10
  fruit of the land of Israel has the ability to give a person.
• 50:12
  Yhachamayim has the ability to open a person's eyes up.
• 50:16
  Like, yeah, God is present here. If it doesn't rain, we're in a
• 50:19
  big problem. And that the farmers now in
• 50:23
  Israel that are literally going a year without doing any
• 50:26
  business a year plus. It's not just Shmita one year
• 50:30
  you have to prepare for shmita. You have to revive from the
• 50:33
  shmita. These people are are going out
• 50:36
  on a limb purely forgotten. When is it happening again?
• 50:40
  The the next it is in three years.
• 50:41
  In three years. In the fourth year right now,
• 50:43
  right? OK, so there's many of these
• 50:46
  mitzvah that again, people can't do.
• 54:03
  How much is this bottle that we're having now?
• 54:05
  This this. I you don't know.
• 54:10
  Yeah. Is it a $40 bottle or $100?
• 54:11
  Bottle I think 90. 90 OK, it does taste like a $90.00 now
• 54:16
  that I know it's $90.20. 20 time.
• 54:21
  On one of the first episodes we had, I was taking wine and
• 54:23
  someone told me that if you swirl it in your mouth, you get
• 54:26
  the feel of it and you close your nose.
• 54:27
  It's like a whole thing, but. Yeah, you can just drink it too.
• 54:30
  You can just drink it. Don't say this wine is special.
• 54:32
  You have to have. To be enjoyed, It's not.
• 54:34
  If it's good, it's going to feel good 100%.
• 54:37
  I agree. I do want to get back to
• 54:38
  something you discussed earlier, but I want to finish the thank
• 54:40
  you Hashem discussion. I said, you know, it's Mosa
• 54:43
  Shabbos, it's a minhug. It's a tradition to talk about
• 54:46
  the Baal Shemtv actually correct in in my world.
• 54:50
  In my will too, every week we have a Baal, Shem, Tov, Shira.
• 54:53
  What's? So what's your feeling on the
• 54:57
  Thank You Hashem movement? Talking about the best baby,
• 55:01
  right? What's your what's your response
• 55:04
  on that topic? I think it's the most important
• 55:06
  thing that needs to happen in the Jewish world right now is
• 55:08
  for people to talk more about the Baal Shem Tov ere.
• 55:11
  It's a Sal Binyan Beta Mcdash, of course, but the Baal Shem Tov
• 55:14
  is that Baal Shem Tov's light in the teachings of him and and his
• 55:18
  students and their students is the path in Torah that is
• 55:25
  bringing us closer to Mashiach consciousness, to prophecy, to
• 55:30
  going back to activating everything that the Torah really
• 55:33
  is. The Bolsheptov, famously, his
• 55:36
  Rebbe was Akhiya Shailoni. Akhiya lives from the times of
• 55:41
  Masha'abenu all the way into times Eliao Navi's Rebbe as
• 55:46
  well. It's one of these long souls
• 55:50
  that we had in in in the Tanakh and we know most, most
• 55:57
  Kabbalists learn from Elianavi. The Baal Shem Tov learned from
• 56:01
  his Rebbe who received Torah from Oshera bin Baal Shem Tov's
• 56:07
  Torah I I just finished teaching over 100 classes in the Baal
• 56:12
  Shem Tov from a book called Sharia Baal Shem Tov.
• 56:14
  One of my Rebbi's put together. He compiled 18 chapters of
• 56:19
  different topics of everyday Jewish life and what the
• 56:23
  Baashamtov had to say on it with sources.
• 56:27
  Baashamtov's teaching, some of them are very Kabbalistic, who
• 56:30
  deem the unifications and meditations and some of them are
• 56:33
  are very simple, just reshaping how we look at things in order
• 56:37
  to re tap into them. And it's it's a toy that's very
• 56:41
  needed. The Baashamtov himself tells a
• 56:42
  story. He tells it to his, to his
• 56:44
  brother-in-law, that on one Rosh Hashanah he did an aliat
• 56:48
  neshama, sole ascension up into the higher realms on Rosh
• 56:54
  Hashanah, and he ended up in the echal of the Mashekh, the
• 56:58
  Mashekh's chambers. And he asked Mashekh, when are
• 57:01
  you coming, When are you coming? And the Mashef's answer was
• 57:08
  lichiafutu minor teka khuta dot dot dot.
• 57:12
  I'm saying it that way because for most of them you saw that
• 57:15
  knows the story. That's the story that they know.
• 57:18
  But if you actually read the the letter after the dot dot dot,
• 57:21
  there's no dot dot dot there. The consentence continues.
• 57:31
  Not only will your wellsprings and your Torah spread out across
• 57:34
  the world that people will do meditations and unifications and
• 57:38
  ascensions like you. The Baal Shem Tov was like what
• 57:43
  he gave him weakness of the of the mind.
• 57:46
  You're only going to come when the world is on my level with
• 57:51
  humility. A person's meant to recognize
• 57:52
  their own level. Baal Shem Tov was on a high
• 57:55
  level. It's not the he saw the light in
• 57:59
  every simple drew, but for them, for the farmer to be the Baal
• 58:01
  Shem Tov is not exactly the same thing.
• 58:03
  Even the Baal Shem Tov knows that.
• 58:06
  And now we're in a generation that you see it's, you can start
• 58:12
  to see the light at the end of the tunnel, tunnel of how it
• 58:14
  actually it's spreading. It's spreading more and more and
• 58:18
  more and people are getting more and more into it to to make a
• 58:21
  bracha properly, like we're talking about to eat the
• 58:23
  importance of joy, running away from depression, singing music,
• 58:28
  the life that we just had in the middle of America.
• 58:32
  That's the Vascento. And if every Kayla, if every
• 58:35
  house had a taste of that, that 2% of what you just had, the
• 58:39
  world would be a better place. I mean so would be true or not?
• 58:42
  I appreciate that compliment. Not only a compliment, just on
• 58:45
  the side of the fact, right if if a.
• 58:47
  Compliment, because that is life.
• 58:49
  Correct If if we all and it goes both ways.
• 58:52
  The amazing thing is the Baal Shem Tov.
• 58:55
  Again, there's Baal Shem Tov stories and ideas and and then
• 58:59
  there's the Baal Shem Tov inside.
• 59:04
  Highly recommend whoever wants to get inside the Baal Shem Tov,
• 59:06
  get inside the Torahs, learn it, learn what he actually had to
• 59:09
  say, not just the the myths and the stories and the, the actual
• 59:14
  Torah out of this world cannot be compared to anything else out
• 59:18
  of this world. Sometimes the most simple thing
• 59:20
  that the Baal Shem Tov just flips how you look at it and it,
• 59:26
  it has a huge, huge effect on the neshama.
• 59:29
  It's validating Torah, it's powerful Torah, it's living
• 59:32
  lively, lively towards connecting, it's to everything
• 59:37
  and the Baal Shem to one of his main rules was a dumpster.
• 59:39
  For that negative of our person needs to know the blemishes in
• 59:42
  their heart. Your downfalls, what you're not
• 59:45
  good at, what you suck at, what you struggle with.
• 59:47
  You have to know it. Because if you know that so then
• 59:51
  you're aware of it. You're conscious, you know who
• 59:52
  you are. Only that will allow you to
• 59:54
  truly be in Simcha. If a person thinks that
• 59:58
  everything's OK and they have to be so sensitive that Oh my God,
• 1:00:01
  God forbid my blemishes get out, the God forbid someone else
• 1:00:04
  knows I'm having a bad day. So you're walking on extras and
• 1:00:07
  you're lying to yourself and everybody around you.
• 1:00:09
  Anyway, when a person's able to, Yeah, my life can be bitter.
• 1:00:15
  I feel bad a lot of the time. I feel so far from a sham.
• 1:00:20
  I have tons of aspirations that I can't achieve.
• 1:00:23
  Yeah. But then a time of simple comes,
• 1:00:26
  a good time, a good vibe. I need it.
• 1:00:29
  I'm lacking, I need this. I just danced in your house.
• 1:00:32
  Why? Because I needed to dance.
• 1:00:34
  Not just because the vibe was good.
• 1:00:36
  I needed to dance. I'm not in there to sell.
• 1:00:39
  I'm away from my family. I need it.
• 1:00:42
  I need it. I'm not feeling good.
• 1:00:44
  I'm not in my natural zone. So in a situation like that,
• 1:00:47
  because of the Placento, because I'm not going to press, if I
• 1:00:50
  know that if right now I dance, right now how I feel I dance.
• 1:00:56
  That's it, Everything's perfect, everything's OK.
• 1:00:59
  Hashem is here. That that's Bashem to, that's
• 1:01:02
  from Nachman, that's Kabad has these stories as well.
• 1:01:05
  Everybody, all the students of Bashem Tov, it's the Gula.
• 1:01:08
  It's the Gula. You said before.
• 1:01:10
  I love everything you're saying. You said before, yeah, Torah
• 1:01:13
  being cool. And now we're talking about the
• 1:01:15
  Bolshamtov, the holy Bolshamtov. And I think this is the
• 1:01:17
  challenge. This is the I don't know if this
• 1:01:19
  is the proper time to use this word, but I always love when
• 1:01:22
  rabbanim use it, the juxtaposition to the Torah cool
• 1:01:27
  and you know, Holy Bolshamtov. How do we?
• 1:01:31
  How do we? Go hand in hand.
• 1:01:33
  What's that? They go hand in hand.
• 1:01:34
  The Bolshamtov fought all the rabbanim that used to go around.
• 1:01:37
  He didn't fight them, but he told them he warned any and he
• 1:01:39
  spoke out about against it other abenim that were scaring people
• 1:01:43
  into Judaism, scaring people in. If you don't do this, you're
• 1:01:46
  going to go to Hagenome. And 12 times it's written in the
• 1:01:49
  Torah, Motimat, if you break Shabbat, yeah, all of that is
• 1:01:54
  true. Maybe not that aggressive.
• 1:01:55
  Says there's Emmet and there's Emmet Lamito.
• 1:02:00
  True, It's true. In the Torah, it's written 12 *
• 1:02:02
  a person breaks Shabbat, they're going to die in this world, in
• 1:02:04
  the world to come. It's true.
• 1:02:05
  You can't go around it or you're going to lie.
• 1:02:07
  The same humans, the same Torah we've had for thousands of
• 1:02:10
  years. Is that how I need to bring a
• 1:02:12
  person in closer into Shabbat? That's the truth that I need to
• 1:02:15
  tell about the Torah that's going to make a person connect
• 1:02:17
  to Shabbat. Or is it that how to deal with
• 1:02:20
  all of your heart, The Bauschinto says 1 pairak of
• 1:02:23
  Taylee and 1 chapter of Psalms. With all of your heart you shake
• 1:02:27
  all of the world's in the heavens, everything you change,
• 1:02:30
  everything. I can't tell a Jew about that.
• 1:02:35
  I can't bring him into Torah that way to show him the light
• 1:02:38
  that he's going to get out of connecting.
• 1:02:40
  You think the power that he has? You think the Baal Shemtov would
• 1:02:43
  have been OK I guess with the way you're saying it.
• 1:02:46
  And I'm accepting what you're saying.
• 1:02:47
  And I agree actually. I just say his words.
• 1:02:49
  No, no, I'm talking. About I'm talking about coming
• 1:02:51
  the back of the bus baby, the best baby.
• 1:02:54
  That kind of talk is what I'm saying.
• 1:02:56
  That's what I'm saying. How would the Baal Shemtov
• 1:02:59
  you're talking about connecting Jews to to him through the those
• 1:03:05
  type of catchy phrases and kibitzi ways of talking That's.
• 1:03:09
  What so now we're going I don't know, I talked from my heart,
• 1:03:14
  but I get what I get what you're saying.
• 1:03:16
  And I think also the heavy from thank Yoshim also are coming
• 1:03:19
  from their heart and I think about something of 100% would
• 1:03:24
  not only accept it, embrace it to tell you that I'd more we
• 1:03:29
  will see you that way. I don't see that the Baal Shem
• 1:03:32
  Tov would see a lot of the admogram as being the Baal Shem
• 1:03:34
  Tov. Baal Shem tov didn't have
• 1:03:36
  uniforms. Baal Shem Tov didn't make cookie
• 1:03:39
  cutter juice. It's the complete opposite.
• 1:03:43
  What was the situation the Baal Shem Tov the the historical
• 1:03:46
  situation of a Jewish town Back then you had a a non Jewish Lord
• 1:03:50
  or a Duke or whoever it was that was in charge of the whole
• 1:03:54
  province and you had the Jews living in his province and you
• 1:03:58
  had a chief rabbi and 1 shell one shokat, one more hell.
• 1:04:02
  And if it wasn't all the same person, which most of the times
• 1:04:05
  it was. And where did he take his orders
• 1:04:07
  from? Because he's a Jew living inside
• 1:04:09
  a goy's land. He didn't have to pay
• 1:04:12
  protection. He didn't have to answer to the
• 1:04:14
  Duke, to the Baron, to the Lord. So what happened?
• 1:04:19
  1 Shoal. That means you have how many
• 1:04:21
  minionium? Probably only one lucky if you
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  have two. What does Shokhana will say?
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  You can pray until Shakarit till midday.
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  There's times for sure you want to make it, but you're allowed
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  to pray Shakarit until midday. But what happens if you live in
• 1:04:42
  a town where there's only one show, one minion, and if you
• 1:04:45
  don't make it to 8:00 and if you don't make it, you're not, what
• 1:04:49
  happens then? So comes about sense of any
• 1:04:51
  students. We don't care about the non
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  Jewish rule and ruler and his rules.
• 1:04:57
  We care about God. And now you have a stable minion
• 1:05:02
  factory. That's a hasidic thing.
• 1:05:07
  So what was it coming back to true authentic Judaism.
• 1:05:10
  I can I pray until Qatar right or wrong am I allowed to I woke
• 1:05:14
  up later I have whatever reason it was I need to pray now.
• 1:05:18
  Minion comes together of the ten other Jews that just like you
• 1:05:21
  can meet themselves at their low level and come together to
• 1:05:24
  connect to Hashem. So if the Baal Shem Tov was OK
• 1:05:26
  with Jews just being Tehelin, I don't know the Yiddish term or
• 1:05:33
  the tailing suckers or whatever it is, right?
• 1:05:35
  Just say to Helium all day long, Yeah, I think he would be OK
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  with this. I personally am a person that I
• 1:05:42
  don't like mockery and and gimmicky things too much, but
• 1:05:49
  our generation does. Our generation does and it is a
• 1:05:53
  place for it. I think you know.
• 1:05:54
  You know what, our generation also is dealing a lot.
• 1:05:59
  If you don't mind me shifting a little bit, but going back to
• 1:06:02
  what you said a few minutes ago, anxieties, challenges, internal
• 1:06:08
  challenges, depressions, you said something interesting a
• 1:06:13
  minute ago. You said something about the
• 1:06:15
  fact that you have to accept what your life is and then you
• 1:06:18
  have to work on being the simcho or work on yourself and being a
• 1:06:22
  positive thing, even accepting it.
• 1:06:24
  I one of the things I learned from my therapist a long time
• 1:06:28
  ago, Rabbi Spivak, who I hardly see now.
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  But, and I'm saying it on purpose because there are times
• 1:06:34
  where I see him a lot and there are times where I see him less
• 1:06:36
  and he's like, you know, like my doctor, I check in with him, you
• 1:06:38
  know, no different than anything else in, in life.
• 1:06:42
  So he's, he's taught me a couple of things about this process.
• 1:06:48
  And one of the things that he taught me is that if you have
• 1:06:51
  anxiety and you keep asking yourself like, what do I have
• 1:06:55
  this anxiety for? Why am I depressed?
• 1:06:58
  Why am I anxiety for? He says it's the same thing like
• 1:07:00
  looking at yourself if you had to get, God forbid, your leg
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  amputated. And everyday you're saying my
• 1:07:04
  leg is amputated, why is my leg amputated?
• 1:07:09
  I can't get out, but my leg is amputated, right.
• 1:07:12
  He said just imagine it that way.
• 1:07:13
  Is that just accept what God gave you.
• 1:07:16
  And he he wasn't coming from a place of God.
• 1:07:18
  He was coming just from a mentality place.
• 1:07:20
  And I'm taking it for both. Just accept what God gave you
• 1:07:23
  and just deal with it. And and, you know, sort of like
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  grow up and move on. Yeah.
• 1:07:29
  You said something earlier and it just it's sitting on my head
• 1:07:33
  and I had to listen to all that. I had to make believe I was
• 1:07:35
  listening to all that so I can ask my question.
• 1:07:37
  You know, people like have something to say.
• 1:07:39
  They don't listen to any. Stuck in the one place exactly
• 1:07:41
  that's. Why I felt a few minutes, to be
• 1:07:44
  honest with you, run away from depression when you said that I
• 1:07:50
  was like, I I wanted to jump out of my chair because.
• 1:07:52
  That's the thing. It's an active thing.
• 1:07:53
  It's not a. So so.
• 1:07:55
  You have to be active. So I want, I want to talk about
• 1:07:57
  that for a second. I want to get into that and just
• 1:08:00
  ask you when you say something like run away from depression,
• 1:08:03
  run away from depression, I'm depressed when you run, let
• 1:08:05
  depression run away from me. You know, I, I, there was a time
• 1:08:08
  once when I was going through a, a challenge and someone
• 1:08:12
  suggested to me, he said, come, you got to go to Florida, get
• 1:08:16
  away from Florida. I said, no, what I need is for
• 1:08:18
  the challenge to go away. I don't need to go to Florida
• 1:08:21
  right now. Do me a favour, come back to me
• 1:08:22
  in a week. You know, there are times that
• 1:08:24
  we all go through that in life. Just leave me alone.
• 1:08:26
  Let me do my thing, let me fix it together with a sham's help.
• 1:08:28
  And you know, but now I don't need to go away.
• 1:08:31
  Now I need to be right here, right?
• 1:08:32
  So, so when you say something like run away from depression,
• 1:08:35
  you got to get into that. Tell me what your thoughts are.
• 1:08:38
  What is depression to you? Where's it come from?
• 1:08:40
  How do we deal with this type of feeling anxieties and just take
• 1:08:44
  me through that world? Because one of the things that
• 1:08:46
  I've I've I've accomplished also in this process is doing some
• 1:08:50
  breath work. So when you started saying
• 1:08:52
  dancing, I'll never forget the breath work guy who came to me
• 1:08:54
  and said, let's dance. And I'm like, dance, get away
• 1:08:56
  from me, dance. So I want to encapsulate all
• 1:08:59
  that in this conversation and just talk about.
• 1:09:01
  So. We'll talk about depression.
• 1:09:03
  Of course, Besimkhara, Abnakman says Besimkhara is the letter is
• 1:09:06
  makshava thought, and you're mashiva, you need to be bisimka
• 1:09:12
  and your thoughts need to be. If Nachim says you can only have
• 1:09:15
  one thought at a time, we can't control what thoughts come into
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  our head. We can influence it and we can
• 1:09:21
  create a better arena and a more conducive thing to hold a brain
• 1:09:24
  that holds pure thoughts and is trained and educated to think
• 1:09:28
  better. But we can't really control our
• 1:09:31
  thoughts. They're coming all the time.
• 1:09:34
  We can control what we think about though what's coming in
• 1:09:40
  there and what's happening is one thing.
• 1:09:42
  What we focus on, what we allow to stay there, that is in our
• 1:09:47
  control. And if you're having bad
• 1:09:50
  thoughts, we have an obligation to change it.
• 1:09:52
  Now that sounds simple. And there again, there is
• 1:09:55
  clinical depression and then there's what most of us in our
• 1:09:58
  generation are going through, which is we still also call it
• 1:10:00
  depression, right? But it's not a chemical
• 1:10:02
  imbalance necessarily. It's.
• 1:10:04
  It's financial imbalance. Yeah.
• 1:10:05
  It's the relationship imbalance. Exactly right.
• 1:10:07
  So, so everything that we think about and the story that we tell
• 1:10:12
  ourselves in our mind, whether it's the story or it's the facts
• 1:10:16
  on the ground, but even if it's facts we interpret in a certain
• 1:10:19
  way, that knowledge, that mindset gives birth to emotions
• 1:10:29
  and those emotions give birth to other emotions that cause us to
• 1:10:34
  make decisions and take actions. And if the story up here is not
• 1:10:40
  right, so then it trickles down that way and it creates a
• 1:10:45
  situation that in your heart and in your actions and in your
• 1:10:49
  speech is detrimental and not and not OK and not and not safe
• 1:10:54
  and not, not at all good, not connected to God.
• 1:10:59
  It's not a good thing. Why does it happen?
• 1:11:02
  For many reasons, but we have an obligation, according to the
• 1:11:06
  Hasidic masses to to fix it. We can't allow ourselves to be
• 1:11:10
  there. The outcome of depression, which
• 1:11:13
  is essentially a person that doesn't have a moon, that
• 1:11:17
  doesn't have a belief that right now everything's OK,
• 1:11:20
  everything's in Hashem's hands, everything is fine, I'm taken
• 1:11:25
  care of, God runs the world and everything is a OK.
• 1:11:29
  When we lose that mindset, we feel disconnected.
• 1:11:33
  And if I don't connect to God and to others around me, so I'm
• 1:11:37
  left by myself and when I left by myself, I still need to find
• 1:11:41
  pleasure. Human beings, all the Kabulist
• 1:11:43
  teach that our number one need is pleasure.
• 1:11:47
  The reason that we came down here, mainly our souls, but
• 1:11:50
  needs more than anything is pleasure.
• 1:11:53
  Tanook rooted very high lofty place in ketter kabbalistic
• 1:11:57
  terms, but pleasure is a is a is #1 need of the human soul has
• 1:12:05
  and we're always going to need that pleasure.
• 1:12:07
  But when we feel that we don't want to connect to anybody or to
• 1:12:10
  God and we just want to be alone and the world can continue on
• 1:12:16
  without me for right now, I need to go into my little hibernation
• 1:12:19
  and process or just be in my funk or whatever it is.
• 1:12:23
  Then that gives birth to laziness, and once you get lazy
• 1:12:28
  and you're not doing boredom, boredom's craziness.
• 1:12:31
  And then it leads to a whole list of sins and different
• 1:12:34
  things that are again a sin. You want to look at it in a more
• 1:12:38
  modern strip, the spirituality of it.
• 1:12:41
  Very bad things for you to do as a human being, as a healthy,
• 1:12:44
  normal human being. Things that are not conducive
• 1:12:47
  for your life and the success of your life.
• 1:12:49
  Most of them are that in a very simple way could.
• 1:12:51
  You give me an example. Cheating on your wife, Stealing
• 1:12:54
  from people, spilling seeds, all these things are known to not be
• 1:13:00
  conducive for success and for good moods and positive energy,
• 1:13:06
  right? I'm saying stripping the
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  spiritual belief of emunah and Torah because I know there's
• 1:13:10
  multiple people listening here with different levels and
• 1:13:12
  different beliefs. But as human beings, there's
• 1:13:15
  certain things that are not good for us to do.
• 1:13:18
  The Torah calls a lot of those things sins, meaning God told
• 1:13:21
  you not to do them. When you go against God, it's a
• 1:13:22
  different level, right? But even if you want to take God
• 1:13:25
  out the picture, so to say, as a human being, there's things that
• 1:13:27
  we can't allow ourselves to get into.
• 1:13:29
  Laziness, depression, detachment, not wanting to
• 1:13:32
  connect to other people, not not being willing to talk to others
• 1:13:36
  or to even process what I'm going through myself.
• 1:13:39
  Just wanting to consume and to take and to be turned off and to
• 1:13:42
  not have any kind of connection is a horrible place to be.
• 1:13:47
  We have to run away from it. And I say run away because we
• 1:13:50
  have to be proactive about it. It's not your friend.
• 1:13:53
  I don't know what to tell you in the situation.
• 1:13:55
  I don't know the situation, but to go to Florida, maybe it
• 1:13:57
  wasn't the right thing to do, but it could have been that it
• 1:13:59
  wasn't the only thing that you should have done that was done
• 1:14:02
  100% the right thing that you needed to do.
• 1:14:04
  Because sometimes we just need to move physically in our mind.
• 1:14:09
  Again, I said it's our mind that tells a story and that trickles
• 1:14:11
  down to our emotions, which trickles, trickles down to our
• 1:14:13
  actions. But what happens if you can't
• 1:14:17
  change your mind? What happens if you can't think
• 1:14:20
  better, if you can't get out of the funk comes with Nachman and
• 1:14:25
  many other Suffocidian different, different books that
• 1:14:30
  we had throughout the times of the Kabbalists that tell us do
• 1:14:32
  something physical and after your actions, your heart will be
• 1:14:36
  pulled. You have to do something
• 1:14:40
  physical, sort of, Nachman says. Clap your hands, dance, really
• 1:14:45
  dispute something of you know, some kind of word, just a joke,
• 1:14:50
  something, do something because change you.
• 1:14:52
  A lot of times depression is a pattern.
• 1:14:54
  It's an outcome of a pattern. Break the pattern, break the
• 1:14:57
  pattern. And the more you get conscious
• 1:15:00
  of this, the more you are aware of it, the more you see it
• 1:15:03
  happening. And like in my house, my wife is
• 1:15:07
  probably going to see this in our house.
• 1:15:08
  It's known. We have also my wife did a
• 1:15:10
  beautiful painting in our kitchen that says this kitchen
• 1:15:12
  is for dancing, right? And in our house it's nearly a
• 1:15:16
  rule if I catch her or she catches me feeling down music
• 1:15:22
  and dancing in our generation that happens.
• 1:15:26
  We dance a lot in our house, but when do we dance?
• 1:15:30
  We dance also just simple times, Arab Shabbat, getting ready for
• 1:15:34
  Shabbat today. And a lot of times we dance
• 1:15:38
  because we need to out of the bitterness, out of the yeah.
• 1:15:47
  So it's we can't accept it. We can't accept it.
• 1:15:50
  And this is probably the hardest thing in our generation of the
• 1:15:54
  self destruction that comes out of not wanting to connect and
• 1:15:57
  not feeling life and not Hashem. I, I'm going to say this, I'm
• 1:16:02
  going to say this and I don't, I'm not poking fingers or
• 1:16:04
  jabbing, but I grew up in this country and a huge reason that I
• 1:16:11
  decided to stay in Israel and continually want to stay in
• 1:16:14
  Israel is because that's what Israel is.
• 1:16:17
  Israel. You guys all know, whoever lies
• 1:16:18
  to you and says Israel's safer than anywhere else.
• 1:16:20
  It's not, it's not. It is in the overall picture and
• 1:16:26
  it is biblically and it is, yes, 100% the only plateau, Zion is
• 1:16:31
  the place of refuge. 100% it's our home.
• 1:16:34
  Yes. The facts on the ground is that
• 1:16:37
  it's a pretty dangerous place and we have to go through a lot
• 1:16:41
  and we all go, not everybody, but a lot of people go to the
• 1:16:43
  military and a lot of people have know people that have died
• 1:16:45
  and have traumatic life, insane extreme ups and downs.
• 1:16:52
  But the UPS are UPS. The UPS are UPS.
• 1:16:56
  And when I lived in America and also when I come down here, a
• 1:16:58
  lot of times I feel that life here is pretty plateau, kind of,
• 1:17:05
  you know, pretty in the hospital.
• 1:17:09
  That's never a good sign. Might feel comfortable.
• 1:17:15
  I know as an American growing up here and I know this is American
• 1:17:18
  culture. Jewish and non Jewish Americans
• 1:17:21
  don't like too much change. You get your comfort, you get
• 1:17:24
  your level of comfort, your standard of living, how it is,
• 1:17:26
  the same routines, things like that.
• 1:17:29
  The Parliament meeting with the gentleman and the Hyman, all
• 1:17:32
  these things that we have set up and if something, so then all
• 1:17:37
  the sudden everything gets shaken out.
• 1:17:41
  Life is that this is God's world.
• 1:17:44
  It's not our world. We're all here to serve God.
• 1:17:49
  God is selfish enough to create his own little playground.
• 1:17:52
  We're all here. His toys we have No, sometimes
• 1:17:55
  you have to remember that if we forget, depression also comes a
• 1:17:58
  lot of times because we feel that it's all on our shoulders.
• 1:18:01
  We have to do it. So if the success is all mine,
• 1:18:07
  so the failure is all yours. But if it's all a sham, so then
• 1:18:12
  you can stay more balanced in your ego that on the UPS and the
• 1:18:15
  downs, you did really well in business.
• 1:18:17
  Thank you. A sham.
• 1:18:18
  You fell fine on your face at the Expo.
• 1:18:20
  Thank you a sham when it comes back to us.
• 1:18:24
  And yeah, this world sucks and it's really brutal.
• 1:18:27
  And there's many, many, many reasons for a person to be
• 1:18:30
  depressed of Joey Rosenfeld. You know you had him on the
• 1:18:34
  airport, yet you had him on the podcast.
• 1:18:35
  I did not. I learned.
• 1:18:37
  Him. Every Sunday I have a cover.
• 1:18:40
  So now his name is Alex Chertok. Every Sunday I learn with him.
• 1:18:44
  Rob, Joey. It's the most important thing in
• 1:18:46
  the world. Joey is.
• 1:18:48
  Amazing, but. He says it's.
• 1:18:50
  Articulate to us. He says that the fact that a
• 1:18:56
  baby was pulled out of its mother is enough of a reason to
• 1:19:00
  be an addict for the rest of your life.
• 1:19:04
  The most traumatic thing ever is going to happen to your life was
• 1:19:07
  birth. It's enough of every.
• 1:19:11
  This world is crazy enough. You don't have to judge anybody
• 1:19:14
  for being addicted or being depressed or anything.
• 1:19:16
  This world is that insane. Vascento says.
• 1:19:20
  Why do we call? Why is what's the name El
• 1:19:21
  Shaddai and why is that the name of this world, which by the way,
• 1:19:24
  Shaddai is π 3.14? I'm sorry, I grew up in an
• 1:19:28
  environment where you're not. Let us say the words what you
• 1:19:29
  just said. I'm saying it you're allowed.
• 1:19:31
  To say it without saying kill a shakai, I'm just like you're
• 1:19:35
  saying I hope. When you're saying it when the
• 1:19:37
  right reason, yeah. OK, no, I'm happy because I like
• 1:19:41
  because there's a song called El Shaddai and I love hearing it.
• 1:19:45
  In a song I it's probably here. We go do.
• 1:19:48
  You know what I'm talking about. Do you know the song?
• 1:19:52
  No, it's farting actually, and a lot of Hassidim hold that.
• 1:19:56
  If you're singing a song and it's the full pursuit, you say
• 1:19:58
  Sham's name. Not everybody holds this, but if
• 1:20:00
  you're saying it in Niratama, if you're saying it for Sham with
• 1:20:03
  honor, so he says, why is that the name of this world,
• 1:20:08
  Shammagla, Olamo die, he said to his world, die enough.
• 1:20:12
  What's olam in Hebrew? Concealment.
• 1:20:15
  The word, The word for world in Hebrew is olam, concealment,
• 1:20:19
  ALM, hidden. What's hidden?
• 1:20:23
  That everything's God and everything's godly.
• 1:20:26
  That's what's hidden in this world.
• 1:20:27
  And what are what level are we on?
• 1:20:29
  The level where Hashem had to say to his world, Die enough,
• 1:20:33
  stop here. That if it would have gone Baal
• 1:20:36
  Shemtov says 1 level below where we are right now, Malku de malku
• 1:20:39
  d'acia Dacia, I'm not going to translate it.
• 1:20:42
  And if we got lower than that, we wouldn't be able to come
• 1:20:45
  back. We wouldn't be able to recognize
• 1:20:47
  God, We wouldn't pass the test. We are in the lowest place
• 1:20:51
  possibly to be and we're still doing the toilet that we're
• 1:20:55
  still trying to. We have to fight for.
• 1:20:58
  Below us is death. Below us is clipboard.
• 1:21:00
  Below us is the worst places possible.
• 1:21:03
  So your standard of living, your basic joy that you need
• 1:21:06
  throughout your day, you can't give up on that.
• 1:21:08
  You have to fight for it. Wow, It's a little bit easier
• 1:21:12
  for you because you're a little bit higher and spot in the
• 1:21:14
  mountains. And I tell this to a lot of my
• 1:21:16
  friends when we talk about Israel, I say it's one thing if
• 1:21:20
  you hardly go to Israel, but if you never went that spot, you
• 1:21:22
  are missing out on life. And it's the most magical city
• 1:21:26
  and the most magical environment in the world.
• 1:21:28
  And at the times that I love to go, there is Hanukkah time, I
• 1:21:31
  love Shabbos Khanuka. I'm curious when is your some of
• 1:21:33
  your favorite times that's? Definitely one there leg bomer.
• 1:21:36
  Leg bomer? Sure.
• 1:21:37
  Yep. Essentially all year long.
• 1:21:40
  That's why I live there. I know we have the pockets.
• 1:21:43
  Definitely like. How do you afford to live there?
• 1:21:46
  I mean, financial afford, Yeah, Yeah, I mean cheaper.
• 1:21:51
  How do you work? How do you how do you do
• 1:21:52
  anything? I'm curious, what's your income?
• 1:21:53
  I did work. I mean, now the wine.
• 1:21:55
  I understand that. But no, it's not really even.
• 1:21:57
  I mean, it is, but not it will be exactly.
• 1:22:00
  That's the goal. The truth is, I managed their
• 1:22:03
  visiting Center for four years from.
• 1:22:06
  The the visiting center of the winery.
• 1:22:07
  Correct. There's a beautiful story I've
• 1:22:09
  seen. I've seen you there now I'm
• 1:22:10
  remembering years ago, OK. It's I managed that until
• 1:22:14
  October 7th. Since October 7th when the war
• 1:22:16
  started, so tourism in Israel was shot and everything shut
• 1:22:20
  down. I had been teaching Torah
• 1:22:22
  already on the side and my rabbi told me to go full time into
• 1:22:26
  teaching and we opened the Beijing draws of English people
• 1:22:30
  that want to learn inspired Torah of the nefesh, the kind of
• 1:22:33
  things that we're talking about now, how to approach the Torah
• 1:22:36
  in a deeper, more meditative way like it was intended to be
• 1:22:40
  taught. People don't know this, but
• 1:22:42
  first show, the first I like on the show, the Rama gives you a
• 1:22:46
  whole breakdown of how to meditate and to bring God into
• 1:22:48
  your life with a you hood from the Rizzo in the Mishnabura.
• 1:22:52
  Really Mishnabura Rama start the Shukhana na Rukh off with
• 1:22:57
  Shiviti Hashem Nidhi and a whole entire meditation of how to
• 1:23:00
  bring down God consciousness from the realm.
• 1:23:03
  That's the first Allah Khan Shukhana Rukh, the book of
• 1:23:05
  Jewish law. The first Allah Khan is to
• 1:23:08
  meditate on God. How many people taught you that
• 1:23:12
  way before whoever ever. I'm not saying I'm the only one
• 1:23:16
  that did this. I live in the city that this is
• 1:23:18
  the Shukhana Rukh was written in our city.
• 1:23:20
  It came out of its spots with all the Kabbalah, right?
• 1:23:23
  So, so I, I teach Torah essentially every day and I try
• 1:23:28
  to help men online in coaching people that like, like, we're
• 1:23:33
  having this conversation, you know, right?
• 1:23:34
  This is not something that you and a few of our listeners are
• 1:23:38
  struggling with. I struggled with this for many
• 1:23:39
  years. I still am working on myself,
• 1:23:41
  but at least I have the books. What part?
• 1:23:43
  What part of it? When you say you've struggled
• 1:23:45
  with it, what do you mean? Like, like I said, everything in
• 1:23:47
  the beginning of, of of living a spiritual life in the modern
• 1:23:49
  world. Yeah, or you're saying you're?
• 1:23:51
  Right. Yeah, and just like you also
• 1:23:54
  talked about some things we do because I love Hashem and it
• 1:23:56
  feels good for me to do it. And some things I'm a little bit
• 1:23:59
  not there because I don't fear Hashem that much.
• 1:24:03
  We are. We're all, we're all on the same
• 1:24:06
  right spectrum. So I just want to say first, I
• 1:24:08
  wish you a lot, a lot of the shmaya bracha, mazel parnasa,
• 1:24:14
  everything you need to succeed in everything you're doing.
• 1:24:17
  Hashem should give you the ability to continue to learn and
• 1:24:20
  teach and to influence. And you know, we should
• 1:24:23
  celebrate a glass of wine together soon with the coming of
• 1:24:27
  Mashiach in your Shalayam. Is that the same?
• 1:24:30
  I think comes through its font, or maybe it's very near it's
• 1:24:33
  font. But she went by Yohai says and
• 1:24:34
  parashed by hatred and Miram Meloise that when Mashiach
• 1:24:38
  comes, he's going to come to the city of Tsvat.
• 1:24:40
  Tskhatame team will happen. Everybody will come together in
• 1:24:42
  spot and walk together to your Shalayam.
• 1:24:45
  OK, check me. You should tell the real estate
• 1:24:47
  brokers and spot this. They know it.
• 1:24:52
  You know, but Speaking of wine, and we're going to, we're going
• 1:24:54
  to wrap up in a minute, But Speaking of wine, Purim is
• 1:24:57
  around the corner and it's Adar. It's Purim is coming baby.
• 1:25:01
  And I love Purim. It's one of my favorite
• 1:25:04
  holidays. It's, I would say it's it's.
• 1:25:06
  Purim in Spot? You asked me what's the time in
• 1:25:08
  Spot? Purim in Spot We do 2 days, we
• 1:25:11
  do 2 days. We read the Mickey Love four
• 1:25:13
  times, so yeah, that's also a special time.
• 1:25:16
  I would say Purim is of the at least top ten holidays of mine
• 1:25:21
  thinking which one? And I'm like, I love all
• 1:25:25
  holidays. I love being Jewish.
• 1:25:26
  I got to be honest with you. I love every part of it and you
• 1:25:29
  know it. It's it's hard to pick one, but
• 1:25:32
  Purim is coming and we drink wine.
• 1:25:35
  And Speaking of MO, Robbie, love you MO, by the way, it's
• 1:25:40
  amazing. He opened up a a world of
• 1:25:42
  discussions for our podcasting, which is this one-on-one, you
• 1:25:45
  know, depth session where we can get real and talk about things
• 1:25:48
  that are in people's minds with people behind put it on his
• 1:25:51
  status. Then he realized he's got to be
• 1:25:53
  careful because people drink and they drive and and it's
• 1:25:56
  dangerous and in spot. You don't have to drive.
• 1:25:58
  You could just walk everywhere so you don't have that issue.
• 1:26:01
  Give me a lesson of give me a lesson of Purim.
• 1:26:03
  Give me something, you know, the Megillah, the the story of
• 1:26:07
  Purim. Give me something that before we
• 1:26:10
  close up here today and we do the final things that we do
• 1:26:13
  before wrapping up, what's your thoughts on Purim and you know,
• 1:26:18
  in general and anything that we can learn from your journey or
• 1:26:22
  so Purim and Hanukkah are rabbinical holidays that were.
• 1:26:26
  Instituted after poems mentioned in the Tanakh already and one.
• 1:26:35
  We light candles and the other we.
• 1:26:37
  Get drunk 1 is very spiritual and all about the light and
• 1:26:43
  essence of God and the other one is about the body and about
• 1:26:47
  eating and getting drunk and the fact that there was a Holocaust
• 1:26:50
  then we survived the poem's an amazing Torah a more.
• 1:26:55
  Amazing time for Torah also because the Jewish.
• 1:26:57
  People, it says Kimuvi Kiblu that we took upon ourselves and
• 1:27:02
  established and kept all the Torah.
• 1:27:05
  So the Torah was given before Purim, long time before Purim.
• 1:27:12
  And it says there, 'cause I'll say the Rabbi say that Hashem
• 1:27:17
  forced us to get married, right? He put a mountain over us.
• 1:27:22
  It's either you take the Torah. Or I'm going to drop it.
• 1:27:25
  And here you're going to be buried.
• 1:27:28
  That's Iraq. That's all.
• 1:27:31
  And when it came to the Purim? People don't know this, but the
• 1:27:35
  story. Of the Miguela is 9 years long,
• 1:27:39
  it's current events over 9 years didn't.
• 1:27:42
  All just happen in. You know, not even one term of
• 1:27:46
  AUS president. It's over more than two was the
• 1:27:49
  unfolding of an event of a month, many events.
• 1:27:52
  But the the the culmination of all of that Megillah that the
• 1:27:56
  Jews were metia hadim, not just the Jews.
• 1:27:59
  It doesn't even specify that. It says obey, but I mean it's
• 1:28:03
  metia hadim. A lot of the people of the world
• 1:28:06
  of the nations became Jews. People were converting.
• 1:28:09
  The Jews were becoming more Jewish, people were converting
• 1:28:11
  to Judaism. It says in the Megillah, What
• 1:28:16
  does it mean that the Jews becoming Jewish?
• 1:28:19
  In Hanukkah, the Jews were. Medievanim were becoming Greek,
• 1:28:25
  and here in the Jews when. It came to the body play with
• 1:28:33
  our soul, this that Sometimes people don't know it's it's.
• 1:28:37
  Out there. But the Jewish story, the Jewish
• 1:28:39
  people as a people, if you get down to our bodies, that's what
• 1:28:43
  we already know is kadosh, we know it's holy.
• 1:28:45
  Even if you're not religious, if you're not, you know, as a Jew,
• 1:28:47
  you've been through a story, you know, people have been
• 1:28:49
  slaughtered. Just the fact that you're alive
• 1:28:50
  now means that the people went through it.
• 1:28:54
  So then too, they knew it happened before them as well.
• 1:28:58
  And when they got to such a point that they realized that
• 1:29:00
  they're going to get wiped out out of love, they received the
• 1:29:04
  Torah upon themselves again and embraced the Judaism again and
• 1:29:09
  wanted the connection again. And I had no idea that we were
• 1:29:13
  going to talk about poor and and bring.
• 1:29:15
  This up like this and. I'm kind of freestyling right
• 1:29:17
  now, but what's coming in my mind right now is you see an
• 1:29:18
  ertiso you have people walking after October 7th in ertiso in
• 1:29:25
  the land of Israel with nice long mehadrin sitiot with no
• 1:29:31
  keep on thousands. A lot of people like this if
• 1:29:37
  people trying to keep Shabbat putting their phone away.
• 1:29:40
  There's a arousal. There's a an awakening and when
• 1:29:43
  did it happen after a bunch of al-maliki Nazis came into our
• 1:29:50
  lands right and and and try to slaughter us.
• 1:29:54
  That aroused something inside of us on the body level that no,
• 1:29:57
  I'm not taking this. There was a Jew in in was killed
• 1:30:00
  by ISIS, a journalist, I can't remember his name.
• 1:30:03
  Him too. When they came, when they came
• 1:30:06
  after his body. They seldom converts before he
• 1:30:08
  kill. You, he said.
• 1:30:09
  No, I'm a. Jew, I'm going to die a Jew guy
• 1:30:11
  never kept his foot in his whole entire life.
• 1:30:14
  But that Pintelia that that, that Jew that's inside that
• 1:30:17
  neshama that's inside of you, even on the body of fights.
• 1:30:21
  So his name was. His name was Daniel Pearl.
• 1:30:24
  Daniel Pearl. There you go.
• 1:30:27
  There's a Jew. That most of his life didn't
• 1:30:30
  really live like a Jew, didn't live a Jewish life when they
• 1:30:35
  came to die convert. Terrorist guns to AK-40. 7 to
• 1:30:39
  his head. Convert to Islam, say one
• 1:30:41
  sentence, he said. I'm a Jew, I'm going to die a
• 1:30:45
  Jew. The Jews of the poem Time did
• 1:30:48
  the same thing, and us now. We also have to do this we.
• 1:30:51
  Don't need to get that far. We don't wish this on anybody.
• 1:30:55
  We don't need to get that far that we have to have some
• 1:30:57
  calamity in our lives to happen. If the outcome of them nearly
• 1:31:01
  dying, realizing, then Hashem is.
• 1:31:03
  Behind everything and the whole. Time, the whole 9 years of that
• 1:31:06
  genocide happening in Persia, was all directly being ordained
• 1:31:10
  to save everybody, and not only that, to make you guys the
• 1:31:13
  Mordecai, became like yourself, the leader of Hashem's in
• 1:31:19
  charge. Sometimes we don't see.
• 1:31:20
  It but. If we can embrace Hashem, we
• 1:31:24
  can. We can realize that, yeah.
• 1:31:25
  There is the awe. There is this.
• 1:31:27
  This world experience. But it's our father, Avinu
• 1:31:30
  Malcano. He's her father.
• 1:31:33
  He loves you infinitely. And no matter what you did
• 1:31:35
  wrong, he still loves you. He can do everything wrong.
• 1:31:38
  He still loves you. He's a father.
• 1:31:40
  Fathers are fathers and good fathers, At least Hashem.
• 1:31:43
  He's the best father, but he's also king.
• 1:31:45
  He's also Makeno, and like a king, he's in charge and
• 1:31:49
  watching over everything that's happening.
• 1:31:52
  Infinite mercy with high expectations.
• 1:31:55
  And poor him. We got pushed to the point it
• 1:31:57
  said that a man taking off his ring did more than all of the
• 1:32:02
  prophets that Amiso had. The Rabbi's have a saying like
• 1:32:05
  that from Khazzak. You know this?
• 1:32:06
  No. What does that even mean?
• 1:32:07
  In the gemara it says essentially a man.
• 1:32:11
  This Jewish. Hater it's anti semite I wanted
• 1:32:15
  to kill us all. Him receiving the the the ring
• 1:32:20
  of power from the king did more to arouse the Jews and all.
• 1:32:26
  Of the prophets that we had speaking.
• 1:32:27
  To us from God, the whole entire Tory couldn't do what one anti.
• 1:32:33
  Semite had the power to do and. In my life, people want to
• 1:32:37
  scream. I hear this all the time living
• 1:32:38
  in Israel. But here I see the American
• 1:32:40
  Jews. Anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism.
• 1:32:41
  I get it. It's a real problem, but the
• 1:32:44
  answer has been clear to us for 3000 years.
• 1:32:47
  Embrace Toran mitzvot. Live as a Jew.
• 1:32:51
  Do what you got to do. What else?
• 1:32:54
  What other option do you have? You're going to change how you
• 1:32:57
  live. You're going to hide it maximum.
• 1:33:00
  You're going to have to move. You have to run away.
• 1:33:02
  We've been. Through this, we've been through
• 1:33:03
  this, right? But to run away from it, to not
• 1:33:06
  to run away from your Judaism, to try to assimilate.
• 1:33:10
  They want it's your. It's your body too.
• 1:33:11
  They're not. It's not your existence.
• 1:33:13
  Is not. It's everything about you,
• 1:33:16
  everything about you. So you might as well embrace
• 1:33:18
  Torah. You might as well embrace a
• 1:33:19
  relationship with a shem. They need to be fanatic
• 1:33:21
  religious, grow out crazy hair, wear strings from your body.
• 1:33:24
  You don't need to do anything, just have to have a relationship
• 1:33:26
  with a shem. Start to know what it is, that
• 1:33:28
  soul that's inside of you. Start to feel it, start to
• 1:33:31
  embrace it, start to try to learn more about it.
• 1:33:33
  And the more you do it, I promise you, I promise you, I
• 1:33:36
  promise you you're going to find more tools to your life doesn't
• 1:33:40
  become daisies, right? Doing Chuvag Abu datashem.
• 1:33:43
  It's called Abu datashem. It's slave work.
• 1:33:45
  It's work. It's not easy, but you get
• 1:33:48
  meaning you get the tools to pick yourself up.
• 1:33:51
  You have the tools to find hope in the darkness and the
• 1:33:54
  bitterness you get. You get much more in your
• 1:33:58
  spiritual and. Mental and emotional.
• 1:34:00
  And physical toolkit to lift yourself up and to give you the
• 1:34:04
  fuel, the fuel and the energy you need to stay happy and to
• 1:34:08
  stay connected and to see the bigger picture and not get
• 1:34:10
  caught up sometimes in those stresses that we have in life
• 1:34:14
  that they choke all of us, they strangle all of us.
• 1:34:18
  There's a secular research that was done people.
• 1:34:21
  Within MUNA have less. Anxiety, people that believe in
• 1:34:24
  a power higher than them live a better mental health life and a
• 1:34:28
  better emotional life. It's not all up to me.
• 1:34:33
  Some there's a bigger picture that takes some weight off the
• 1:34:37
  shoulder and in Purim that was abundantly clear to the Jews.
• 1:34:41
  It could not have just been Esther and Mordecai and whatever
• 1:34:44
  protests were going down down there against anti-Semitism.
• 1:34:47
  You're saying it was a nine year process, right Of of chess of
• 1:34:51
  Hashem? Everything to the dock you
• 1:34:53
  couldn't tell in year. One or two or three or four,
• 1:34:56
  right? And not only that, that in.
• 1:34:58
  The megillah there's. Hints to future events is known
• 1:35:04
  that there's the Nuremberg trials.
• 1:35:07
  And Nazis were hung. Can you, Steph, can you help us
• 1:35:11
  out really quick? Look up Purim Fest 1946.
• 1:35:16
  What's the guy's name? The Nazis.
• 1:35:19
  There's 10 Nazis that were hung in the Purim.
• 1:35:23
  Megillah Haman and his ten sons are hung 1946 There's Nazis that
• 1:35:30
  were put on trial for their involvement in crimes.
• 1:35:32
  Julius Streicher in Maximo, his name be erased sounds.
• 1:35:37
  Like a Jewish name. Julius Streicher, German.
• 1:35:41
  OK, OK. He was a.
• 1:35:43
  He was a. Nazi.
• 1:35:45
  And all of his friends and. Ten of them were hung just like
• 1:35:48
  it's. Written in the Megila, right?
• 1:35:50
  Who's the one? Who's Amman?
• 1:35:51
  Yeah, we know. We don't need to say his name
• 1:35:53
  either, right? And ten of his sons, ten of his
• 1:35:57
  main generals. And as this guy is going to get
• 1:36:01
  hung. Same form of.
• 1:36:03
  Execution as the Megillah thousands of years ago he
• 1:36:08
  screams out Purim fest 1946 the non Jewish German Nazi screams
• 1:36:16
  out Purim fest. So in this in the Megillah.
• 1:36:21
  Esther gets asked by the king. What's your desire?
• 1:36:25
  And we have a rule when we read the megillah, sometimes it says
• 1:36:29
  the king and sometimes it sings the king Akashvarosh.
• 1:36:33
  And whenever it says just the king, it's talking about God.
• 1:36:36
  So God asks Esther, do you have any more requests?
• 1:36:41
  Anything she says, can this also happen tomorrow?
• 1:36:45
  Meaning can it happen again in our in the timeline?
• 1:36:48
  Of of the world. And it did. 1946 again it
• 1:36:50
  happened, it happened that 10 people of that nation, which by
• 1:36:56
  the way, Iran, it's Aryan, the country's called paras, what's
• 1:37:01
  Iran Aryan. It's also connection now.
• 1:37:05
  So now to poems coming up. We have an Aryan nation coming
• 1:37:10
  against us. I feel is up to Hashem.
• 1:37:15
  And Hashem will. Rabbit Revenu, Danny Dineeno and
• 1:37:21
  Go against go against all of the evil in the world to take.
• 1:37:23
  Out. Then we have to know.
• 1:37:24
  That anything that we see physically happening, it's
• 1:37:26
  already happened up in the root. So most likely, most likely, God
• 1:37:29
  willing, like like the parasha aligns with things that happen
• 1:37:32
  in the current events of the week.
• 1:37:35
  We're going into a time right now where the mazel of Israel is
• 1:37:37
  go there. The the power of Amisa is
• 1:37:41
  amplified in the world. And our enemies go down.
• 1:37:45
  And it's the time where specifically our Persian Iranian
• 1:37:48
  enemies historically should go down as well.
• 1:37:51
  Is that the same? I'm in this was amazing.
• 1:37:55
  I mean, I think I think I. Used the word amazing for this
• 1:37:57
  podcast when I started and I meant it and I knew it would be
• 1:38:00
  and I'm happy I said it and it really was.
• 1:38:03
  The most fascinating part about this whole conversation is I
• 1:38:05
  think it's over a little over an hour.
• 1:38:07
  I don't know. Regardless of how long it was,
• 1:38:10
  we started off because we were talking for two minutes before
• 1:38:13
  it started and you're like, I have a story.
• 1:38:15
  I don't think you even said the story.
• 1:38:16
  We're like, oh wait, you have to talk about it very quickly.
• 1:38:19
  Sorry. We were talking about brachas.
• 1:38:21
  We're talking about blessings. The.
• 1:38:22
  Stories like this, there's a guy in Israel that went to the east
• 1:38:26
  like many Israelis do, and he went backpacking through India
• 1:38:29
  and he went with a friend from an ashram that he was learning
• 1:38:32
  in. They went in on a hike and on a
• 1:38:34
  hike he picked the fruit and he made a blessing.
• 1:38:37
  Bless your God, king of the universe, creator of the fruit,
• 1:38:41
  of the fruit of the tree. And OK, he's a backpacking
• 1:38:47
  Israeli that's checking out some ashram there.
• 1:38:49
  But the guy he's with is a monk and he sees the whole aura of
• 1:38:53
  the fruit change. He says, what did you do?
• 1:38:56
  What did you do? Our people, you know, we, we
• 1:39:01
  make blessings before we eat and before we enjoy from this world.
• 1:39:05
  He's what does it mean? The whole energy of the fruit
• 1:39:08
  changed everything. And this non Jewish monk, Indian
• 1:39:11
  monk is making this whole big deal about the bracha and how
• 1:39:14
  the energy of the fruit changed and he could see it.
• 1:39:18
  First of all, going to show you this is not just our made-up
• 1:39:20
  stuff, spirituality. Is a real reality.
• 1:39:22
  And even if a person is living in a what we believe is tuma and
• 1:39:26
  against the ways of the Torah and idol worship and everything,
• 1:39:29
  it doesn't matter. They're still spiritual and
• 1:39:30
  they're still tapping into very high levels of spirituality,
• 1:39:33
  right. You know, was to exactly right.
• 1:39:37
  And he had the. Ability to see that the Jew with
• 1:39:39
  his mouth. Changed the fruit that sent that
• 1:39:43
  Jew off and he went he left India, he went to yeshiva and he
• 1:39:47
  and he became he's I think he's a mushbi.
• 1:39:49
  I can't remember his name, but that that was the story that it
• 1:39:52
  blessing with intention. It happens to be, by the way, so
• 1:39:55
  I'll just give you a little. You know taste of this.
• 1:39:59
  You the the power of Brahas. You know when when my son was
• 1:40:02
  sick, my son had a liver transplant, but he was a baby.
• 1:40:06
  And like a week before the surgery, somebody arranged for
• 1:40:12
  an entire school. Of boys bracha party, a bracha
• 1:40:16
  party. They all at one shot.
• 1:40:19
  At 1:00 at one one time. They all had a drink, they all
• 1:40:24
  managed to hack all together and they all set a man together.
• 1:40:28
  And like I said, the power of that.
• 1:40:30
  Can shake the world. Wow.
• 1:40:31
  Well, Steph, thanks for sharing. By the way, last Baal Shem Tov's
• 1:40:35
  three last. One you sure I don't want it to
• 1:40:38
  stop? Doesn't.
• 1:40:38
  Have the last one, last one on camera I guess.
• 1:40:41
  Yeah, there was a. Baal shem Tov.
• 1:40:43
  We're hanging. Out all night, by the way.
• 1:40:44
  You know that, right? We're going straight to the hot
• 1:40:46
  tub from here. We go to Nets in the.
• 1:40:48
  Morning too. OK, perfect.
• 1:40:49
  We'll pull an old nighter. Baal Shem Tov.
• 1:40:51
  Sent one of his students to a. Very far away town.
• 1:40:55
  And he got lost and off the path and he went without water for a
• 1:41:00
  long time and he finally found a stream of water.
• 1:41:05
  And put his. Hands down the cup and made a
• 1:41:08
  full hearty shackle and drank it and went back to the Baal Shem
• 1:41:13
  Tov because he didn't find what he was sent to find.
• 1:41:17
  And he gets back, back to the Baal Shem Tov and he said.
• 1:41:20
  What was that? You sent me to like, nowhere.
• 1:41:24
  There's nothing there. What?
• 1:41:26
  What did you need? What was?
• 1:41:27
  What was going on? He said, tell me about your
• 1:41:29
  journey. And he tells him how everything
• 1:41:31
  broke down and he couldn't. And he went on this Maya in this
• 1:41:34
  spring and he made a shot call. He says, you know what happened
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  in the heavens, that wellspring from the creation of the world
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  had no purpose, and it made a claim in the heavens and there
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  was a. Decree that a whole entire
• 1:41:47
  village of Jews was. Going to get wiped out because
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  of the key to the claim in the heavens that that that that
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  wellspring gave out and you came and made one shackle and saved
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  all of them. We have a lot of a lot of power
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  in our mouth. Wow.
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  And in our mind and we. And our heart, and if we can
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  apply all three of them together, Kerov elekha adava
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  mamaj befika ulivaja la Soto. The thing is very close to you
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  in your mouth, in your heart. To do it, unify your actions
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  with your heart in your mouth. The word of God is.
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  Going to be very close to you. Wow.
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  Is that this one? I love it.
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  I mean. Last two things before I let you
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  go is. First of all, do you have any?
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  Questions for me and then I'm going to ask you if you have any
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  guests that you would recommend. You know, normally I would say
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  if you start a podcast, who would be your first guest?
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  But you had a podcast, so that should be an easy one.
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  But before we wrap up, any questions for me?
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  Yes. As a Jew living here.
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  And what I know of you in our short time that we had in this
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  past 24 hours. How do you market what I've seen
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  in your house in your the love and the, and the camaraderie
• 1:43:07
  that you guys have together. How do you market that more than
• 1:43:10
  more Jews should be inspired to have that as well in their
• 1:43:12
  house. Friends that come together to
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  bring in Shabbat together, that sing together, that eat
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  together, that take out Shabbat together, sing together, eat
• 1:43:19
  together. How do how do we market that?
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  You're a marketer. How do we and don't say it's
• 1:43:25
  none of your business. That's for Shalom.
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  I'm happy we didn't even use it. It's a great question.
• 1:43:30
  I think that the simplest answer I can give is to everyone has
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  the ability to give to Dhaka charity, even if it's not money.
• 1:43:43
  And it's a concept I always talk about behind closed doors.
• 1:43:47
  Give your time. You know, we had someone on the
• 1:43:51
  podcast that said that, you know, they don't take a lot of
• 1:43:54
  guests on Shabbos. That's because that person is
• 1:43:56
  during the week, busy with the guests of the world.
• 1:43:59
  But a typical person can open their home, do it once a month.
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  You know, think upon yourself to go to shabbat.com or go to your
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  local rabbi and say, hey, I want to open my home to have a meal
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  with somebody from the outside to come in.
• 1:44:13
  It'll change your Shabbos and it'll change your life.
• 1:44:16
  And the reason is because you're then forced to listen to someone
• 1:44:20
  else's stories and sing the songs and ask them.
• 1:44:23
  Just literally start the Shabbos table with your guests and say,
• 1:44:27
  what song did you grow up with listening to Shalm Aleichem
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  Shabbos? You ask that question and it
• 1:44:32
  just invokes curiosity and then it creates conversation.
• 1:44:37
  Before you know it, you're singing Shalm Aleichem with a
• 1:44:39
  stranger that you'd never met before.
• 1:44:41
  So that's what I would say is open your home if we could
• 1:44:43
  market it to the world and say, guys, you know, I I instead of
• 1:44:46
  shabbat.com, or I think is it shabbat.com?
• 1:44:49
  Right. But see on classical shout out
• 1:44:51
  to you. We got to have we got to have
• 1:44:52
  him on Steph, add him to our list, please.
• 1:44:56
  He's a guy that we're going to go really deep with and talk
• 1:44:58
  about art and many other things. So, so the point is that just,
• 1:45:03
  you know, what Rabbi Waxman taught me a long time ago is,
• 1:45:07
  you know, you want to do something, just cut that in half
• 1:45:09
  and take that and cut that in half and do that.
• 1:45:11
  So don't start being nice to the world every day of your life.
• 1:45:14
  Like calm down, you know, don't even do it, you know, every
• 1:45:17
  other day. Do it once a month.
• 1:45:19
  Just, you know, Rashkhodesh let's, you know, the bracha, the
• 1:45:22
  blessing I'll give to everybody listening to this is it's gonna
• 1:45:25
  be the week of Rashkhodesh Adar. And it's gonna it's gonna lead
• 1:45:29
  us to Purim and take upon yourself something once a month
• 1:45:34
  and open your home to a guest, open your home to a single
• 1:45:38
  divorced father, divorced mother, open your home to a
• 1:45:41
  neighbor who doesn't have any children living alone.
• 1:45:44
  Open up your home and automatically the simple will
• 1:45:47
  start. And that's how I think it'll
• 1:45:49
  cap. And if you can't do that, I'll
• 1:45:51
  just add then call someone. And be there for them.
• 1:45:56
  Yeah, if you can't bring them to your house, right.
• 1:45:57
  Just adding the exact same lines that you're saying.
• 1:46:00
  I heard, I heard a great story and I'm going to share it real
• 1:46:02
  quick. And many people heard it
• 1:46:03
  already, but it doesn't. Matter.
• 1:46:04
  It's still a great story to tell you in case you haven't, is that
• 1:46:07
  someone basically came back to keeping Shabbat and so on.
• 1:46:10
  And he said, what made you do it?
• 1:46:11
  And he said, it's the rabbi that called me every Arab Shabbos.
• 1:46:15
  And, and one day someone met that rabbi and said, wow, you
• 1:46:17
  know, did you know this? And he was, that's interesting
• 1:46:19
  'cause he never picked up the phone.
• 1:46:22
  And that story just like, you know, really hit home with me.
• 1:46:25
  It's just, and especially with what you're saying now, just
• 1:46:27
  pick up the phone, call someone and again, do it once a month.
• 1:46:30
  You're right. If you can have a guest in your
• 1:46:32
  house and your spouse won't allow it or whatever, just call
• 1:46:35
  someone. Right connection, which is
• 1:46:37
  really great. Elio, who would be your, your
• 1:46:41
  suggestion for the none of your Business podcast as a guest
• 1:46:43
  here? I know you're living in spot.
• 1:46:45
  Joey Rosenfeld, 100%. Oh, Joey, I've she, I've she
• 1:46:48
  also. I can help with all of these.
• 1:46:52
  OK, so those are those are those are the top 2, right?
• 1:46:56
  Yakov Klein. If he ever comes, yeah, let's do
• 1:47:02
  it, Joey. I'm doing.
• 1:47:03
  I'm going with Joey right there. That's.
• 1:47:06
  I'm going to say something right now.
• 1:47:07
  If he'll do it, I don't know. I just met him this Shabbat, but
• 1:47:09
  I think it would be a. Conversation of Tversky of
• 1:47:14
  Torres I have here in Pomona the rough.
• 1:47:16
  I just met him this Shabbat. I think that would be, you know,
• 1:47:19
  it's a great. Idea by the.
• 1:47:20
  Way I think that would be very powerful.
• 1:47:22
  I met him once and his his Simcha.
• 1:47:23
  His happiness was just. Contagious.
• 1:47:25
  I'm blown away. How he acted in Shabbat and the
• 1:47:28
  way he has his. Community, What did he do?
• 1:47:31
  Tell me. Tell me one thing that that
• 1:47:32
  stood out. He walked and gave every child
• 1:47:37
  the candy. And he gives hugs.
• 1:47:39
  He hugged me in a way that I haven't been hugged in a long
• 1:47:41
  time from, especially not from Arabic.
• 1:47:44
  And he's, he's genuine, he's down to earth and authentic.
• 1:47:49
  And it's amazing to see a Jew that that believes in.
• 1:47:58
  The simple inherent holiness. Of every single Jew, that's what
• 1:48:01
  I saw and that's his behaviour. When he opened his mouth and
• 1:48:06
  turned, spoke to her, I was blown away.
• 1:48:09
  And that doesn't usually happen to be coming from SWAT and well,
• 1:48:13
  Hashem came out the heart. I don't know.
• 1:48:16
  And if it happens, I'm, I'm definitely going to watch that
• 1:48:18
  one. I'm definitely going to make
• 1:48:21
  sure every one of them at least get a call from us.
• 1:48:24
  I also say if you could. Have if you could have a person
• 1:48:26
  that's about. Shuva or a convert those stories
• 1:48:34
  they they help a person a lot on their.
• 1:48:36
  On their journey, learning from the greats is.
• 1:48:38
  Is also important, but also learning from the people that
• 1:48:40
  fought to to come into a connection with the show is I
• 1:48:44
  love it. That's a great idea if any one
• 1:48:46
  of our listeners know any suggestions from that world.
• 1:48:48
  Let us know. Thank you again to all our
• 1:48:50
  subscribers or our listeners, all the feedback.
• 1:48:52
  Thank you to the Prime Source production team doing amazing
• 1:48:55
  things, growing together. I love where this conversation
• 1:48:58
  is starting to go. I love this, you know, the
• 1:49:00
  selection of who you are having and I'm thinking already ahead
• 1:49:04
  of sitting in front of, of Avshi and of Joey and, and, and
• 1:49:07
  Ravtorsky and you know, don't worry, listeners, we're going to
• 1:49:12
  sprinkle in a lot of others as well in terms of covering all
• 1:49:16
  facets of life. But really getting deep and
• 1:49:18
  talking about the pain and how to get past it.
• 1:49:20
  And what you said today was overwhelming for me to listen to
• 1:49:25
  and to accept. I am going to listen to this
• 1:49:27
  podcast. And that's something to to say
• 1:49:29
  because Stefan does the listening like 10 times over and
• 1:49:34
  I'm excited for it. If a person is interested in
• 1:49:36
  these in these topics, so. I would say two things.
• 1:49:40
  Joey Rosenfeld, if you go to Rabbi Joey Rosenfeld, if you go
• 1:49:43
  to his YouTube, there's a playlist section on the channel
• 1:49:47
  and he has different playlists, Anxiety, hope, joy, addiction,
• 1:49:53
  recovery, those topics. You listen to him.
• 1:49:58
  Extremely powerful and humbly. Speaking on my channel.
• 1:50:02
  I also have a couple 100 shery on and of the same of the same
• 1:50:07
  energy. Approaching these topics from
• 1:50:10
  the from the Torah is not like any.
• 1:50:12
  Self help book. Or any speaker out there, it's
• 1:50:17
  when you, when you, when you see that the Hasidic masters, and
• 1:50:21
  not just the Hasidic masters, Torah teachers for the past
• 1:50:24
  thousands of years have had these tools and, and guidance.
• 1:50:26
  And sometimes it's just which book and how to read it.
• 1:50:31
  And to get over that, a lot of us come with a lot of trauma
• 1:50:34
  from how we were forced Torah or how we were taught Torah.
• 1:50:38
  Our tour is beautiful. Our tour is, is amazing and
• 1:50:41
  filled with every tool you need. It's just give it a give it the
• 1:50:44
  right fair chance with the open heart.
• 1:50:46
  You need some help, make a good look, aim and get into it
• 1:50:50
  because we all need it. We all need it.
• 1:50:52
  I love it. I appreciate it.
• 1:50:54
  Thank you for that. And.
• 1:50:56
  That's a wrap.