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I Was Jeff Goldblum the Entire Time (Jurassic Park): High n' Dry Episode #75 · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:28
  Ryan Baron North: Hey everybody, welcome to High Enjoy Podcast, the only podcast keeping alive the fandom of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
• 0:35
  Ryan Baron North: I'm your host, Ryan Baird North.
• 0:39
  James Crosslin: Legitimately Enjoyable stupid movie.
• 0:42
  Ryan Baron North: Answer with me, as always, james Crosland.
• 0:45
  Ryan Baron North: James, what's going on Thoughts?
• 0:48
  James Crosslin: Thoughts on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
• 0:50
  James Crosslin: It's great.
• 0:50
  James Crosslin: I really loved all the underwater stuff with Nemo.
• 0:56
  James Crosslin: You know I'm into diving.
• 0:57
  James Crosslin: Now I actually went diving today.
• 0:59
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, it was actually meaning to ask you.
• 1:01
  Ryan Baron North: I'm not sure if our viewers are aware how you spend your random Sundays.
• 1:07
  James Crosslin: Oh yeah, I spent my time out in the cold ass water.
• 1:11
  James Crosslin: It was like 58 degrees in the water, cold as shit and I went around I found a scallop patch.
• 1:18
  James Crosslin: Yeah, so I'll be grabbing some scallops next time I'm out.
• 1:24
  James Crosslin: I didn't take anything today because it rained recently in San Diego and it just floods the water with like motor oil and dog shit and stuff, so I don't want to eat a scallop that's been eating that.
• 1:38
  Ryan Baron North: Makes sense, makes sense, all right.
• 1:41
  Ryan Baron North: Well, that's super interesting.
• 1:42
  Ryan Baron North: I wish I had something like that to do in this Texas hotel room.
• 1:46
  Ryan Baron North: I've been trapped in for a month.
• 1:50
  James Crosslin: You could probably hunt something in there.
• 1:52
  James Crosslin: Probably not as tasty a scallop.
• 1:56
  Ryan Baron North: I just leave little breadcrumbs and I've been convincing this mouse to come out of the wall.
• 2:01
  James Crosslin: You got your speargun ready.
• 2:03
  James Crosslin: One of those little electric shockers they use on the velociraptors Got you little slumbitch.
• 2:10
  Ryan Baron North: So we're high in dry podcast.
• 2:12
  Ryan Baron North: Thank you for joining us.
• 2:13
  Ryan Baron North: Today we're going to be talking about if you haven't cast, or if you haven't seen it, or you just have no idea what the fuck we're doing.
• 2:19
  Ryan Baron North: We're going to be talking about Jurassic Park.
• 2:23
  James Crosslin: We're a philosophy thing.
• 2:24
  James Crosslin: Why did you not?
• 2:25
  Ryan Baron North: have seen this movie.
• 2:27
  Ryan Baron North: We're going to be talking some philosophy of the pop culture.
• 2:29
  Ryan Baron North: We're going to break it down into three parts for you.
• 2:31
  Ryan Baron North: We're going to start with our sober thoughts and then we're going to move into our enlightened thoughts and then we're going to follow it up with some what ifs.
• 2:40
  Ryan Baron North: So we're going to insert drugs and alcohol into Jurassic Park.
• 2:43
  Ryan Baron North: So before we jump into it, James, what are you smoking this week?
• 2:49
  James Crosslin: So this week I'm smoking.
• 2:51
  James Crosslin: I've got a return of the Oster Dam OG from Originals California.
• 2:59
  James Crosslin: I don't think this is a very good flower.
• 3:02
  James Crosslin: I'm going to be honest with you.
• 3:04
  James Crosslin: I'm not impressed by what they've got.
• 3:07
  James Crosslin: If you want to change my mind, reach out OriginalsCA at originals underscore CA on Instagram.
• 3:15
  James Crosslin: If you want to give them some shit for their weak ass products, I'm going to be smoking that I'll tag them.
• 3:23
  James Crosslin: Yeah, tag them.
• 3:23
  James Crosslin: I'm going to be smoking this with a bunch of keef in it because I need it, because otherwise it won't get me high.
• 3:33
  Ryan Baron North: Jesus.
• 3:33
  Ryan Baron North: Well, all right.
• 3:35
  Ryan Baron North: Well, I'll be joining you with Makersmark number 46.
• 3:39
  Ryan Baron North: Ooh nice, the French Oaked, I'll see here it's 47%.
• 3:47
  Ryan Baron North: It's supposed to have notes of vanilla, caramel and spice, while offering a longer finish without the bitterness of my dad, was supposed to.
• 4:02
  James Crosslin: I've met your dad and he's pretty bitter already.
• 4:07
  Ryan Baron North: Well, this is, according to the bottle, that's from Bill Samuels Jr.
• 4:12
  James Crosslin: Oh, okay.
• 4:14
  Ryan Baron North: Son of the founder.
• 4:15
  James Crosslin: Sorry, Sorry, Mr Baron North.
• 4:20
  Ryan Baron North: Well, our first one, first toast, first hit, first shot, here this one's going out to the film today Jurassic Park, cheers, cheers.
• 4:33
  James Crosslin: Wow, that's some good ass, keef.
• 4:39
  Ryan Baron North: Oh, there's no way of doing this one with a straight face.
• 4:42
  Ryan Baron North: Maybe it's just because it was my first go, oh, but holy shit, yeah, it's not meant to be a shot.
• 4:49
  Ryan Baron North: For those of you who are wondering the four Oaks, not the four Oaks, the number 46, it's not supposed to be a shot.
• 4:58
  Ryan Baron North: You get hit by that cask strength right there.
• 5:01
  Ryan Baron North: There's a lot of strange flavors that come at you with their pants down on that one.
• 5:08
  James Crosslin: Feel free to swirl it around a little bit.
• 5:10
  James Crosslin: Enjoy it.
• 5:10
  James Crosslin: You don't have to slide it down.
• 5:14
  James Crosslin: Your goal immediately.
• 5:15
  James Crosslin: You take your time, man, it's fine.
• 5:18
  Ryan Baron North: I think I might, on the second one, see if I can maybe enjoy the flavor a little bit.
• 5:23
  James Crosslin: Yeah.
• 5:24
  Ryan Baron North: Well, let's load up the second one.
• 5:26
  Ryan Baron North: That was a heavy pour.
• 5:28
  Ryan Baron North: So originally today, when I started the day, what was I doing?
• 5:34
  Ryan Baron North: I was doing something.
• 5:34
  Ryan Baron North: I was talking to somebody and he was talking about fasting for 36 hours once a week.
• 5:41
  Ryan Baron North: You know how I am when I hear any weird thing that you can try and do to your body.
• 5:46
  James Crosslin: I'll give that a shot.
• 5:47
  James Crosslin: What the fuck?
• 5:47
  James Crosslin: Yeah, you want to do it, which is crazy.
• 5:50
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, and so this morning.
• 5:52
  Ryan Baron North: I had completely.
• 5:54
  Ryan Baron North: I hadn't eaten.
• 5:55
  Ryan Baron North: I didn't eat today until I think closer to two when I realized, well, dude, I'm going to have a fuckload of drinking.
• 6:03
  Ryan Baron North: I got to do here soon, it doesn't matter at that point.
• 6:05
  Ryan Baron North: So I broke that fast a little prematurely.
• 6:08
  Ryan Baron North: Good.
• 6:09
  James Crosslin: I'm glad.
• 6:09
  James Crosslin: I'd hate to see you die on camera and I'm like I don't know he's in some hotel in Texas.
• 6:15
  James Crosslin: 911, help him.
• 6:19
  Ryan Baron North: Oh yeah, I couldn't even imagine this barrel fucking thing hitting my stomach with nothing in it.
• 6:24
  Ryan Baron North: So luckily today I have had keto bread, peanut butter and some ribeye.
• 6:33
  James Crosslin: So we're responsible consumers on this podcast.
• 6:38
  Ryan Baron North: That's right.
• 6:39
  James Crosslin: Fast before we drink, before we do it.
• 6:45
  Ryan Baron North: So our second shot, or second toast to this one comes, goes out to Hermosillo, sonora.
• 6:53
  James Crosslin: Oh, it would be Hermosillo and Sonora, mexico.
• 7:00
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, it's Mexico, so I was looking at it and my thing at.
• 7:03
  Ryan Baron North: Color codes are viewers based on country, but United States and Mexico are blue, so I'm thinking this is some place in the United States I have yet to hear of.
• 7:13
  Ryan Baron North: But yeah, no.
• 7:14
  Ryan Baron North: So Hermosillo, yeah, hermosillo, is it?
• 7:19
  Ryan Baron North: Two L's, yeah.
• 7:22
  James Crosslin: Hermosillo.
• 7:23
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, hermosillo, yeah, here's to you guys.
• 7:27
  James Crosslin: To the entire state of Sonora.
• 7:28
  James Crosslin: Thank you.
• 7:31
  Ryan Baron North: Yes, cheers to Sonora.
• 7:32
  Ryan Baron North: Little easier on that second go.
• 7:40
  Ryan Baron North: There it is there it is, so it tastes like sucking on a cigar humidor.
• 7:52
  James Crosslin: Yeah, that makes sense.
• 7:54
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, that's.
• 7:57
  James Crosslin: When Keith burns it tastes totally different than the flour itself.
• 8:02
  James Crosslin: It's like bitter, but it's so much more potent.
• 8:06
  James Crosslin: Okay, gotcha, Just a heads up for those of you who want to try a Keith or whatever.
• 8:12
  James Crosslin: It is pretty bitter when you smoke it.
• 8:14
  James Crosslin: Be advised.
• 8:18
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, got it.
• 8:18
  Ryan Baron North: I've had some really good bourbons while I've been here.
• 8:22
  Ryan Baron North: I generally really do enjoy the standard makers mark.
• 8:27
  Ryan Baron North: It's one of my favorite, especially for whiskey sourced and things like that.
• 8:31
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, I'm not really a fan of this $20 markup.
• 8:39
  James Crosslin: Really, it's just too aggressive.
• 8:42
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, Punching Way too much.
• 8:43
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, way too much.
• 8:45
  Ryan Baron North: It's like when you're barbecuing and smoking you want that smoky flavor.
• 8:52
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, Imagine if someone cooked your steak on a pan and then just dumped liquid smoke onto it and said it's the same thing.
• 9:02
  James Crosslin: Yeah, liquid smoke is really.
• 9:04
  James Crosslin: I feel that a lot of people go way overboard on liquid smoke.
• 9:09
  James Crosslin: You have to use it really sparingly.
• 9:12
  James Crosslin: I put some in my carnitas and it's like half a teaspoon for an entire huge six quart Dutch oven and shit.
• 9:22
  James Crosslin: Some people go way overboard.
• 9:26
  James Crosslin: Yeah, I hate that overly smoky taste.
• 9:29
  Ryan Baron North: This number 46 is the liquid smoke of barrel aged bourbon.
• 9:34
  Ryan Baron North: You could quote me on that.
• 9:36
  Ryan Baron North: Makers mark, get them carcinogens.
• 9:37
  Ryan Baron North: I'll tag them too.
• 9:42
  Ryan Baron North: Our third one.
• 9:44
  Ryan Baron North: This one goes out to, I guess, using your liquid smoke responsibly.
• 9:52
  James Crosslin: Yeah, always.
• 9:53
  James Crosslin: Our episode is going to be about that today.
• 9:56
  James Crosslin: Be responsible with the power you have.
• 10:00
  Ryan Baron North: That's right, there you go, cheers, cheers.
• 10:06
  James Crosslin: They were so worried about whether they could put that smoke flavor in they didn't stop to think if they should.
• 10:14
  Ryan Baron North: They just before they knew what they had.
• 10:16
  Ryan Baron North: They got it just slapped into bottles on the fucking store.
• 10:19
  Ryan Baron North: Sell it, sell it, sell it.
• 10:21
  Ryan Baron North: And now here we are All right.
• 10:27
  Ryan Baron North: So if you've stayed with us so far, you're a great sport and we appreciate you, so let's jump into it.
• 10:33
  Ryan Baron North: We're talking Jurassic Park, the original one before it got all Chris Prattie.
• 10:41
  James Crosslin: Totally turned crazy.
• 10:42
  James Crosslin: You know it's kind of like the alien franchise.
• 10:45
  James Crosslin: I feel like it's very much like the alien franchise in that way.
• 10:49
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, no, and I was turned off forever against the new iterations of Jurassic Park when they horrifically mutilated the assistant girl.
• 11:03
  James Crosslin: Yeah, the assistant who she dumped her niece and nephew on, or whatever.
• 11:09
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, this woman who did nothing but like roll her eyes once as you were just fucking mistreating her, and there was a message that they were sending to young millennials and people.
• 11:21
  James Crosslin: She was on her phone.
• 11:22
  James Crosslin: What the fuck is wrong with her?
• 11:24
  James Crosslin: She was on her phone.
• 11:25
  James Crosslin: Who's on their phone ever?
• 11:29
  Ryan Baron North: It was just such a sadistic scene and after watching it I was like, well, I'm done, I am good.
• 11:35
  Ryan Baron North: You know, I thought Chris Pratt was funny when he was on the Leslie Knope show, but then I learned that he was a fucking raging dickbag.
• 11:46
  James Crosslin: So I'm good.
• 11:48
  James Crosslin: And now he's just in like military thrill, like.
• 11:54
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, seal Team 6 and biceps and yeah.
• 11:59
  James Crosslin: Seal Team goes to the future.
• 12:00
  James Crosslin: He was one of those.
• 12:04
  Ryan Baron North: So I'm good, I'm good.
• 12:05
  Ryan Baron North: And then fucking Anna Ferris with him from the early days when he was in that B movie about porn and the second he saw any level of success.
• 12:18
  Ryan Baron North: Just fucking kicked it like, just said fuck it, and he was like married and a month later or some shit, yeah, what a dick.
• 12:27
  Ryan Baron North: I might, I might.
• 12:29
  Ryan Baron North: Anna Ferris is great.
• 12:30
  Ryan Baron North: Anna Ferris is amazing.
• 12:35
  James Crosslin: If you want a really good high movie, there's one with Anna Ferris called Smiley Face.
• 12:39
  James Crosslin: We only found out about it recently.
• 12:40
  James Crosslin: It does a really good thing.
• 12:42
  James Crosslin: No, it's not the horror one, it's called Smiley Face and she has this loop where she gets high, is confused and then nervous and then paranoid, and it does this loop of throughout the movie of her doing that over and over.
• 13:03
  James Crosslin: It's great Interesting.
• 13:05
  Ryan Baron North: Okay, yeah, no, I had never saw that one.
• 13:07
  Ryan Baron North: I remember her character of herself in Keanu.
• 13:14
  James Crosslin: Yeah.
• 13:15
  Ryan Baron North: I thought that was really good, not five.
• 13:18
  James Crosslin: No, it's just scary movie.
• 13:18
  James Crosslin: One, two and three, not four Two old.
• 13:20
  James Crosslin: She's very funny.
• 13:21
  James Crosslin: Yeah, she was really good.
• 13:28
  Ryan Baron North: But anyway.
• 13:28
  Ryan Baron North: So Jurassic Park, what are your initial thoughts?
• 13:31
  Ryan Baron North: Oh, Re-watching the classic.
• 13:35
  James Crosslin: I mean, should I go first?
• 13:37
  James Crosslin: Maybe you should go first, because I think I feel like you already know what I'm going to say.
• 13:42
  Ryan Baron North: Well, let's see here.
• 13:43
  Ryan Baron North: So I had not seen it in a very long time.
• 13:47
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, so I did re-watch it yesterday and that was my first moment coming into the movie.
• 14:00
  Ryan Baron North: For real, I'm like why is he making that noise?
• 14:03
  Ryan Baron North: It is so bizarre in the scene.
• 14:07
  Ryan Baron North: It is so weird Every time Jeff Goldblum is on the camera.
• 14:12
  Ryan Baron North: It's so fucking bizarre.
• 14:16
  James Crosslin: His performance dictated the rest of his personality, for the rest of his public persona.
• 14:23
  Ryan Baron North: It was so weird when he was posing with his shirt open.
• 14:26
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, like, why are you?
• 14:29
  Ryan Baron North: What a strange choice by the director, even Steven.
• 14:35
  James Crosslin: Spielberg knows what he's doing.
• 14:37
  James Crosslin: People love that.
• 14:38
  James Crosslin: It's an iconic scene.
• 14:39
  James Crosslin: Well, it was so, so weird, so weird.
• 14:45
  James Crosslin: I'm sorry.
• 14:47
  James Crosslin: I'm sorry.
• 14:47
  James Crosslin: Steven Spielberg does a great job of like injecting levity and iconic moments, like things that are like a little surreal but like, in a way, that's not not.
• 15:00
  James Crosslin: It's not challenging.
• 15:01
  James Crosslin: Right, it's surreal but not challenging.
• 15:04
  James Crosslin: It's not asking you to think about it or do any work.
• 15:08
  James Crosslin: He's just really good at picking out like people go whoa, I wasn't expecting that.
• 15:13
  Ryan Baron North: Well, I was very confused and I you know, I haven't seen behind the scenes of Jurassic Park and I would love to see an interview where Spielberg is going.
• 15:24
  Ryan Baron North: So, yeah, that's exactly what I was trying to do.
• 15:26
  Ryan Baron North: I was, I was trying to shake your expectations.
• 15:29
  Ryan Baron North: I was trying to essentially do a little blip in the, in the film.
• 15:34
  James Crosslin: He wasn't trying to shake any expectations, but he's great at surprise.
• 15:37
  James Crosslin: Like it was a surprising scene, you were like whoa, what is going on, jeff?
• 15:40
  James Crosslin: Yeah?
• 15:41
  Ryan Baron North: why are you posing?
• 15:43
  James Crosslin: Your chest is all the way out.
• 15:44
  James Crosslin: It's because you know that's a good question.
• 15:46
  James Crosslin: Why is he posing?
• 15:47
  James Crosslin: He is a person who's very concerned about image all the time yeah, no and yeah.
• 15:54
  Ryan Baron North: so I feel that might be an enlightened thought.
• 15:58
  Ryan Baron North: But just other sober thoughts on the film.
• 16:01
  Ryan Baron North: I mean it was a huge, huge just.
• 16:07
  Ryan Baron North: It was a discussion on the state of corporatism and capitalism.
• 16:11
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, and, of course, and the way we're the way we're headed and there was definitely like a lot of fear of science being interwoven into, at least without the proper precautions, Right yeah.
• 16:25
  James Crosslin: And I think it was.
• 16:26
  James Crosslin: The blending of corporations and science is bad.
• 16:31
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, and so there was a lot they were clearly trying to say, and you know, while attempting to make a blockbuster film, yeah, I do.
• 16:42
  Ryan Baron North: I do wish they had been a little more focused on the Michael Crichton right, if I'm remembering.
• 16:50
  James Crosslin: Yes, the novel.
• 16:52
  Ryan Baron North: The Jurassic Park.
• 16:53
  Ryan Baron North: The novel was a horror novel?
• 16:55
  Ryan Baron North: Yes, and so I was.
• 16:59
  James Crosslin: This might be a high thought, but this is a horror movie.
• 17:02
  James Crosslin: We'll talk about it later.
• 17:03
  James Crosslin: I'm going to make an argument, but you had your sober thoughts, I'm I sober thought.
• 17:09
  James Crosslin: So this is the greatest movie of all time.
• 17:10
  James Crosslin: Steven Spielberg yes, steven Spielberg Excuse me, I bought the rights to this movie before it was written.
• 17:21
  James Crosslin: I mean, I mean, he bought the rights to the book before the book was published.
• 17:24
  James Crosslin: He made a deal with Michael Crichton before the book was even published that he was going to make this movie.
• 17:30
  James Crosslin: Yes, and so they did work jointly in this, in taking the script and turning it into a movie and planning shots and stuff.
• 17:41
  James Crosslin: So he had a big Michael Crichton had a big hand in it.
• 17:44
  James Crosslin: A few other things.
• 17:46
  James Crosslin: This was the his movie that came out after he actually filmed this movie.
• 17:50
  James Crosslin: Next, after Hook, which was one of, like, his financial failures yeah, quote, unquote.
• 17:55
  James Crosslin: It was like he considered it a failure.
• 17:56
  James Crosslin: It was like it was panned by critics and stuff.
• 17:59
  James Crosslin: And the studio made him do Jurassic Park before Schindler's List because they were like no, no, no, you're going to do our moneymaker before you do your art film about the Holocaust and he was pretty pissed about it, yeah, I mean.
• 18:16
  Ryan Baron North: I mean we're here to make money, I suppose.
• 18:19
  Ryan Baron North: So maybe Jurassic.
• 18:20
  James Crosslin: Park was a comment.
• 18:23
  James Crosslin: Yes, yeah, definitely.
• 18:25
  James Crosslin: Steven Spielberg is really good at making comments like that.
• 18:29
  Ryan Baron North: No, and he's like Jeff Goldblum is me trying to produce Schindler's List and the Velociraptors?
• 18:41
  James Crosslin: are the Nazis.
• 18:42
  Ryan Baron North: Are the fucking Nazis and the T-Rex is my goddamn agent and producer and the studio, and Jurassic Park is the studio.
• 18:54
  James Crosslin: Yeah.
• 18:54
  James Crosslin: It's like Steve what the fuck are you talking about?
• 19:00
  James Crosslin: I think we're definitely in high thoughts now.
• 19:05
  Ryan Baron North: Well, that being the case, let's load up our final go here.
• 19:09
  Ryan Baron North: My final say of Maker's Mark without coconut, because if folks at home think I am done drinking, you do not know me at all.
• 19:22
  James Crosslin: Eat more before you drink more.
• 19:26
  Ryan Baron North: No.
• 19:27
  James Crosslin: Cheers.
• 19:28
  Ryan Baron North: So here's to Steven Spielberg trying to sum up the Nazis, holocaust and capitalism attacking his movies with Jurassic Park.
• 19:37
  James Crosslin: Cheers.
• 19:40
  Ryan Baron North: Oh, I forgot that was coming at me.
• 19:41
  Ryan Baron North: I thought that was going to be a normal taste of bourbon.
• 19:47
  James Crosslin: I haven't referenced my notes at all.
• 19:48
  James Crosslin: I had so many notes on this movie.
• 19:50
  James Crosslin: I haven't said anything from my notes.
• 19:52
  Ryan Baron North: Well, please jump to the high.
• 19:56
  James Crosslin: I just think this is the best movie ever.
• 19:57
  James Crosslin: Okay, so I referenced earlier that I wanted to make an argument that this movie is a horror movie.
• 20:04
  James Crosslin: Yes, you know you mentioned that the book that it's based off of is horror and I've had I had to have this conversation with like multiple people recently.
• 20:15
  James Crosslin: It's really weird that we decided to do this podcast and talk about this movie.
• 20:20
  James Crosslin: I've had to have this conversation.
• 20:22
  James Crosslin: I think that Jurassic Park is a horror movie.
• 20:26
  James Crosslin: It has so many horror beats in it that it's almost undeniable that the second half of the movie is horror.
• 20:33
  James Crosslin: You know they have suspense.
• 20:37
  James Crosslin: They have.
• 20:39
  James Crosslin: He took a lot of shots that he used in, like jaws of, like hidden, hidden things, and the fear and suspense, timed with music, that that brings that horror feeling, the horror feeling that at any time something could happen to you and hurt you.
• 20:57
  James Crosslin: It's got.
• 20:57
  James Crosslin: It's got fucking mutilated limbs.
• 21:01
  Ryan Baron North: Do this ripped pieces.
• 21:03
  James Crosslin: You see.
• 21:04
  James Crosslin: You see a lawyer get picked up in the mouth of a trans source and his lifeless body shaking around.
• 21:10
  James Crosslin: That's terrifying.
• 21:12
  James Crosslin: They're hunted, and I think that a lot of people say, oh well, this is like an action movie.
• 21:18
  James Crosslin: Right, it's not gory enough to be a horror, but I don't think that gore is what makes horror right.
• 21:25
  Ryan Baron North: Well, I agree with you entirely.
• 21:27
  James Crosslin: And I think that I think it's kind of did something like a From Dust to Dawn, where the first half of the movie is like a core, almost like a corporate espionage slash slash adventure movie.
• 21:40
  James Crosslin: You've got Nedry doing like a corporate espionage arc where he's like meeting with an agent from another company and stealing stuff, and you've got a little action venture where there's some scientists who are like oh wow, look at all these cool things, and then just, and then just it turns as soon as Nedry knocks on stuff Like this is now a horror movie and it's going to be a horror movie for the rest of the movie.
• 22:05
  Ryan Baron North: Well, you just reminded me of another gold bloomy and scene of like sort of oddness, and that was Newman, when he's doing the deal in the beginning there, yes, he won't stop giggling, dodson.
• 22:20
  Ryan Baron North: Dodson we got Dodson over here.
• 22:23
  James Crosslin: See, nobody cares.
• 22:26
  Ryan Baron North: Like it was just his like watching it again for the first time and he's like doing the over the top, giggling when he received the money and for a second.
• 22:36
  Ryan Baron North: I was like is he not a good actor?
• 22:38
  Ryan Baron North: I don't remember him not being a good actor, but then he continues the dialogue and he was fantastic.
• 22:43
  Ryan Baron North: Yes, he was actually really good and so he's great to this movie.
• 22:50
  James Crosslin: Yeah, here, here, I have a note on that.
• 22:52
  James Crosslin: So Nedry expresses glee at the engineering of the canister at the beginning and Sadler and Grant are gleeful about the dig they made and about when they meet the dinosaurs.
• 23:04
  James Crosslin: Ian gleefully explains his cast theory.
• 23:06
  James Crosslin: There's a lot of glee that's like over the top in this movie.
• 23:10
  James Crosslin: Yeah, because what it's doing is it's setting a contrast for the horror.
• 23:14
  James Crosslin: It's this way over the top glee.
• 23:17
  James Crosslin: And then when the horror comes, they are also way over the top on the other end, where Sadler, like when she's running through the tunnels away from the velociraptor, like I compare that scene and like the over the top expressions of terror and like the feeling of dread that it gives to alien.
• 23:37
  James Crosslin: When you see Ripley, when she first looks at the xenomorph and then shrinks like back up against the wall and there's just this bright light on her and all she she's doing, a twisted face of terror, and to me it's like a one for one on that and it really tells me that this is a horror movie.
• 23:58
  James Crosslin: Yeah, I don't know.
• 24:00
  Ryan Baron North: Well, I, you know, I do remember being afraid of it as a child.
• 24:05
  Ryan Baron North: When I was younger and I guess, before I dive into this point, you bringing up that Michael Crichton's idea was bought pre publication and just thinking, if you know, steven Spielberg knocked on my hotel room and said that hey, I hear you're working on something.
• 24:24
  Ryan Baron North: It's going to be a movie, but it is going to be mine, you understand.
• 24:30
  Ryan Baron North: And so me having to get in the headspace of a shirtless Jeff Goldblum in my work and going, oh I, that's a trip in and of itself.
• 24:47
  Ryan Baron North: But I also think I would have liked to have seen, because I mean, obviously we were just talking about how this series eventually plays out and they just go full bore into dumb action.
• 25:02
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, I mean, we have Chris Pratt on a fucking motorcycle riding with the Raptors.
• 25:08
  Ryan Baron North: It was, it was the dumbest shit I've seen, probably in my life, and I wish, instead of going to the extreme on that side, I wish they had gone to the extreme on the horror side, and what we saw instead was just a super terrifying experience.
• 25:30
  Ryan Baron North: But that's the problem, it wouldn't have been as marketable.
• 25:34
  Ryan Baron North: You can't make an action figure out of Chris Pratt's shit in his drawers.
• 25:40
  James Crosslin: Yeah, Well, well, I would watch it.
• 25:46
  James Crosslin: That's when I'd watch it.
• 25:47
  James Crosslin: Like Chris Pratt shits himself on this one.
• 25:48
  James Crosslin: I'd go see it.
• 25:49
  James Crosslin: That's why, but but I'd say that the most I would say that the most profitable and most mainstream horror movies out there are not gruesome and most people wouldn't say they're like incredibly scary.
• 26:08
  James Crosslin: You know it's.
• 26:10
  James Crosslin: You know what.
• 26:11
  James Crosslin: You know what the kitchen scene reminds me of.
• 26:13
  James Crosslin: It reminds me of the shining, the way you're kind of like in when he chases them into the hedge maze and you're kind of you've got the geography of these shots of like.
• 26:23
  James Crosslin: Where are they hiding?
• 26:24
  James Crosslin: Where is what turn are they making?
• 26:26
  James Crosslin: You know these shots of the victim in the foreground, with the enemy, the thing that's hunting it in the background, kind of looking around.
• 26:35
  James Crosslin: That's the way you see Jack in the background of those shots.
• 26:38
  James Crosslin: And I think that I think that to me there's no argument that this movie is horror.
• 26:47
  James Crosslin: In the second half it takes a turn.
• 26:49
  Ryan Baron North: Without a doubt, just by the definition of horror, but what I'm not talking about introducing the gore to it.
• 26:55
  Ryan Baron North: What I would like to see and amateur writers who are getting are trying to figure out your next hashtag for Twitter to collect an agent.
• 27:03
  Ryan Baron North: You can't steal this, but what I would like to see is a hereditary times, but with dinosaurs.
• 27:12
  James Crosslin: Well, hereditary is.
• 27:13
  James Crosslin: Would you say that hereditary is of huge financial success.
• 27:17
  James Crosslin: I don't know how much money it made.
• 27:18
  James Crosslin: I know that it's considered one of the best horror movies in recent years and I agree.
• 27:25
  Ryan Baron North: But the gore is few and far between on hereditary and it's just the constant creeping which I think you could do.
• 27:31
  James Crosslin: It is real.
• 27:32
  James Crosslin: It is real.
• 27:33
  James Crosslin: There are headless corpses walking around and bowing and shit.
• 27:36
  James Crosslin: It's pretty gory.
• 27:38
  Ryan Baron North: But just not until that one moment and then it's over.
• 27:41
  Ryan Baron North: It's just a quick second, even when spoiler the little girl catches her face on the telephone pole when you've already been watching this movie for an hour.
• 27:51
  Ryan Baron North: At this point that's the first lick of violence.
• 27:53
  Ryan Baron North: I mean Arguably.
• 27:55
  Ryan Baron North: I'd say a pack of velociraptors would have been more violent than some girl getting clipped by a telephone pole.
• 28:01
  James Crosslin: Well, but Jurassic Park also probably made like five times in money.
• 28:05
  James Crosslin: Oh, easily.
• 28:07
  Ryan Baron North: We're not about to have hereditary the ride.
• 28:09
  Ryan Baron North: You just have a trace and poor actor who's just trying to make it sign their own head off.
• 28:31
  James Crosslin: Just trying to look the most horrified they've ever looked at their lives, oh shit.
• 28:37
  Ryan Baron North: You take your kids.
• 28:38
  Ryan Baron North: It's gonna be a great time.
• 28:41
  James Crosslin: I caught a souvenir.
• 28:45
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, you're not gonna have hereditary the ride, but that like I mean, had they have given me the directorial helm?
• 28:55
  James Crosslin: You would have made a real, a real gruesome horror.
• 28:59
  James Crosslin: And you're right, hereditary did have a very marketability in that there wasn't just guts and and like onscreen violence displayed, it was like the onscreen.
• 29:09
  James Crosslin: The violence onscreen that was shown was like all harm, harmful to the person themselves, like the mom.
• 29:16
  James Crosslin: Tony Collette, right as our name.
• 29:18
  Ryan Baron North: Oh, yeah, yeah, and she's a revelation.
• 29:22
  James Crosslin: Yes, and she.
• 29:23
  James Crosslin: All of her violence was self violence in that movie, like slamming her head when she was flying across the ceiling and shit.
• 29:32
  Ryan Baron North: Which arguably less violent than being eaten by a velociraptor?
• 29:36
  James Crosslin: Yeah, that's true.
• 29:36
  James Crosslin: You see a dude's head grabbed by a velociraptor in this one, which is so, which is more, almost more violent than what's in hereditary.
• 29:44
  Ryan Baron North: Well, and I would also argue, the Jurassic Park I feel, after watching it again, I feel has a history of sadism in their violence, because it's never just a one and done chomp.
• 29:56
  Ryan Baron North: Like Newman, he, his eyes are poisoned and he gets like it's kind of nasty and he's like struggling in the dirt, which I'd also like to ask.
• 30:06
  Ryan Baron North: What were they trying to say?
• 30:08
  Ryan Baron North: What did Newman do that was so wrong?
• 30:12
  Ryan Baron North: Versus, which is Jurassic Park, did because he's got grandkids.
• 30:18
  James Crosslin: I Think that I think that he stole from the wrong people.
• 30:22
  James Crosslin: Don't, don't touch the corporations money.
• 30:27
  Ryan Baron North: You know that that was the studio Injecting their message back to Spielberg, who just wanted to do his art piece.
• 30:34
  James Crosslin: I Think it was Michael Crichton, probably that the product is probably in the book, so the part is probably in the book.
• 30:42
  James Crosslin: I don't know about Nedry's Ark in that one, but I'd say that I'd say that there's a lot of shitty people in this, in this movie, who did, who did deserve to die, but not all of them.
• 30:54
  James Crosslin: One thing I never understood about this was at the at the beginning, when, like the velociraptor eats the worker, like it said, it was locked in place like it wasn't like negligence on any of the workers parts.
• 31:08
  James Crosslin: Yeah, that lock, that lock failed in some way For that dinosaur to attack that guy.
• 31:14
  James Crosslin: I just wanted to say that that that wasn't those workers false, they weren't negligent.
• 31:18
  James Crosslin: Yeah, so this lock manufacturer didn't velociraptor test these locks?
• 31:25
  Ryan Baron North: Well, and that that was the same problem you and I had when we first watched the new Jurassic Park, the first one with Chris Pratt, where the Template millennial gets just fucking savaged.
• 31:40
  James Crosslin: Yeah it workers get punished a lot this.
• 31:43
  Ryan Baron North: Well, it was you who had said and what you had said is actually stuck with me a long time on that scene, when you and I were first Discussing it made however many years ago, maybe a decade now you and you had said that you were either trying to make a statement or you're bad at your job.
• 31:59
  Ryan Baron North: And which one was it?
• 32:03
  Ryan Baron North: What is the statement here?
• 32:05
  Ryan Baron North: How me?
• 32:06
  Ryan Baron North: Because the statement's ugly.
• 32:07
  Ryan Baron North: And if you want to deny the statement, that means you're bad at your job.
• 32:11
  Ryan Baron North: So which way you want to go?
• 32:13
  Ryan Baron North: And that's a good point?
• 32:15
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, no, you made a solid point all those years ago and yeah, for sure.
• 32:20
  Ryan Baron North: So, yeah, I think.
• 32:22
  James Crosslin: I think.
• 32:22
  James Crosslin: I think this really tells you're totally right.
• 32:25
  James Crosslin: I think this tells you the mindset at the time that no one really questioned this, that the, that the villain who fucks it all up or whatever is a, is a laborer who, if they wrote to, if he, if Nedry, really wrote two million lines of code, like I'm a programmer, two million lines is like an absurd amount of lines of program.
• 32:44
  James Crosslin: Like like Nedry either writing he's either writing a lot of really good stuff, which the fact that Jurassic Park is doing anything at all and one dude did the programming on it, that's wild.
• 32:57
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, that there wasn't a team.
• 32:58
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, there, there wasn't a team.
• 33:01
  James Crosslin: It was a Nedry.
• 33:02
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, it was one guy just getting fucking beaten down for this fucking so.
• 33:09
  Ryan Baron North: So this guy could get richer, and they're like, and they're like they're like look at the dude's desk, it's a mess.
• 33:15
  James Crosslin: It's like, yeah, it's cuz.
• 33:15
  James Crosslin: He fucking sleeps there because he's right, because he's working 24 seven to keep your park running and and fucking Hammond is like.
• 33:24
  James Crosslin: I will not discuss your financial problems again.
• 33:29
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, and just oh, yeah, no, and.
• 33:31
  Ryan Baron North: And so I was.
• 33:33
  Ryan Baron North: I was a hundred percent on his fucking side, yeah, and then his death was super sadistic again.
• 33:39
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, yeah, the same as that poor millennial girl who you're dumping on like everything and then she gets like eaten by three things at once.
• 33:49
  Ryan Baron North: It was, yeah, it was so terrible it was so terrible.
• 33:57
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, I was mad to this day.
• 34:01
  James Crosslin: I was totally right with that.
• 34:02
  James Crosslin: You're making a statement, your bad job.
• 34:05
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, or you're bad at your job.
• 34:06
  Ryan Baron North: Which one is it?
• 34:07
  Ryan Baron North: Because if you're making a statement, there's an entire generation of people who have some words for you, and if you're not, well then why the fuck are you directing this?
• 34:16
  James Crosslin: Well, Michael Michael Crichton's like a bit of a wacko, I mean.
• 34:20
  James Crosslin: I'm just like, yeah, he's a bit of a wacko.
• 34:23
  James Crosslin: I think he's a libertarian-ish type wacko, so I think that he both hates corporations and thieves or whatever you know.
• 34:34
  James Crosslin: Sometimes libertarians really like that.
• 34:36
  James Crosslin: Like you know, even though Hammond's like a real piece of shit, it's his private property and and the violation of his private property in advance, as he made, is also equally wrong.
• 34:52
  Ryan Baron North: Well, and it's wild because, like you know, it would have really helped Jurassic Park in the beginning.
• 34:56
  Ryan Baron North: Right there, some outside requirements and interference, making sure like watching you, you know people wouldn't have died.
• 35:07
  James Crosslin: Hammond had.
• 35:08
  James Crosslin: He was.
• 35:09
  James Crosslin: He was hiring Grant and Sadler to like sign off in his park because of the numerous deaths that have occurred.
• 35:17
  James Crosslin: That's like why he.
• 35:18
  James Crosslin: That's the impetus of the movie is like there's been a lot of safety violations and complaints and shit.
• 35:24
  James Crosslin: I gotta bring some people into.
• 35:25
  James Crosslin: Okay, this I.
• 35:27
  James Crosslin: In the book, hammond dies, hammond dies.
• 35:30
  James Crosslin: In the book he's actually torn apart by campies.
• 35:33
  James Crosslin: Copies, the, the little ones.
• 35:36
  James Crosslin: Yeah, the little guys yeah yeah, and it's like a rightly deserved yeah yeah, it's like a bit by bit Regrew some death for him.
• 35:44
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, no, but in the movie you know he's now, he's fine, he's, he's got grandkids, he's an older guy, he doesn't deserve that.
• 35:51
  Ryan Baron North: The millennial chick yeah, she should be Flayed, but any no, it's a great point.
• 35:57
  James Crosslin: I think you're totally right that that was corporatism in that it was.
• 36:00
  James Crosslin: It was we weren't ready to say kill CEOs to broader America, robo, robo cop to famously did that and Wasn't a super financial success either.
• 36:12
  James Crosslin: It was people were like this is gruesome, you can't kill a CEO like that, no matter how bad he is.
• 36:19
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:20
  Ryan Baron North: Well, I'm glad that we started.
• 36:22
  Ryan Baron North: We finally turned towards the light.
• 36:23
  Ryan Baron North: So here's to that.
• 36:25
  Ryan Baron North: Oh.
• 36:26
  Ryan Baron North: So, that being said, it's time to launch into our third portion of this.
• 36:29
  Ryan Baron North: It's time for the what-ifs.
• 36:31
  Ryan Baron North: So, james, what if you were in Jurassic Park?
• 36:36
  Ryan Baron North: What, what, what's different?
• 36:37
  Ryan Baron North: How's this movie change?
• 36:39
  James Crosslin: Well, the first thing I would do is question why they use amphibian dance DNA instead of bird DNA.
• 36:44
  James Crosslin: Like Raptor means bird, they literally say that.
• 36:48
  James Crosslin: He says that in the first scenes of the movie, where he's like he says it many times.
• 36:52
  James Crosslin: Raptor means bird of prey, and they're like we put amphibian DNA.
• 36:57
  James Crosslin: That's a huge Missing point.
• 37:01
  James Crosslin: That's like what the fuck.
• 37:03
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, well, we talked about this in the thing episode, where it's like careful when you combine your science with the fiction.
• 37:12
  James Crosslin: Yeah, seriously I would.
• 37:15
  James Crosslin: I would take a gun.
• 37:17
  James Crosslin: No, no one took a gun.
• 37:20
  James Crosslin: Even even if you're not the most comfortable with guns or whatever.
• 37:27
  James Crosslin: I understand guns can be dangerous, but try to exhibit as much Reasonableness as you can.
• 37:35
  James Crosslin: There's dinosaurs afoot.
• 37:37
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, you should have a gun.
• 37:38
  Ryan Baron North: Oh yeah, not.
• 37:41
  Ryan Baron North: Any of the dinosaurs responded to the one guy with a gun, as though they were aware what a gun could do.
• 37:49
  James Crosslin: Possibly, you know, I think they would be because, remember, one of them had to get shot At the beginning they didn't they?
• 37:56
  James Crosslin: They probably do know about guns.
• 37:59
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, they might, yeah, well, and then he said they were very smart she's.
• 38:03
  James Crosslin: He was like when she looks at you the big one looks at you you can tell she's thinking.
• 38:08
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, well then I wonder if things out if you had the gun.
• 38:13
  Ryan Baron North: Would having that gun encourage you to be more aggressive, versus Fleeting the situations like they did and survived?
• 38:23
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, I think that's.
• 38:24
  James Crosslin: I think.
• 38:25
  James Crosslin: I don't know if there's any studies having Been done about that, about how, like, having a gun makes you more aggressive, but I kind of feel like when you have a tool, it's that we've done studies about how, about About the way certain tools or the way someone's dressed or the way they're standing or whatever, makes them Act more aggressively and take riskier chances and things.
• 38:51
  James Crosslin: So I would not be surprised that holding a gun and feeling powerful would make you more likely to treat things head on and more aggressively.
• 39:00
  James Crosslin: It might for me, I don't know.
• 39:03
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah also.
• 39:03
  Ryan Baron North: I mean, you saw in your what if right now you have a weapon?
• 39:07
  James Crosslin: We're hunting raptors.
• 39:08
  James Crosslin: Ow, hold on to your butts.
• 39:18
  Ryan Baron North: That was weird.
• 39:18
  Ryan Baron North: There was so few instances of profanity.
• 39:24
  James Crosslin: There's my first bloody if you uh Hold on to your butts.
• 39:29
  Ryan Baron North: Oh yeah, my first bloody if there would be strings of fucking Jesus fucking.
• 39:34
  James Crosslin: Christ, holy shit, it's face.
• 39:37
  James Crosslin: Got you by dinosaur, holy shit.
• 39:41
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, so yeah, putting me into it would definitely increase the rating we would.
• 39:46
  Ryan Baron North: We would already have one fewer Universal Studios ride.
• 39:53
  James Crosslin: When the storm, when the storm started coming in, I'd be like why are we all standing around?
• 39:58
  James Crosslin: Shouldn't we like be gone?
• 39:59
  James Crosslin: Why did you bring me here when a fucking hurricane was approaching those?
• 40:04
  James Crosslin: Don't just like form out of nowhere.
• 40:06
  James Crosslin: They're forecasted for weeks.
• 40:08
  James Crosslin: Yeah, what the fuck.
• 40:14
  Ryan Baron North: And then Hammond was like.
• 40:15
  Ryan Baron North: I wanted to increase the level of suspense.
• 40:17
  Ryan Baron North: You understand, I have grandchildren coming.
• 40:21
  James Crosslin: I would look at like at Costa Rica and weather before I went.
• 40:24
  James Crosslin: Well, I guess, I guess that'd be really difficult in the 90s, I guess.
• 40:28
  James Crosslin: Now I just Google it, but in the 90s I wonder how you'd get information on the weather in Costa Rica.
• 40:33
  James Crosslin: Call someone there, I'm gonna call someone.
• 40:38
  Ryan Baron North: I distinctly remember growing up and we tracked hurricanes for fun, like it was definitely on the weather channel.
• 40:46
  James Crosslin: Yeah, the weather channel is like the 2000s, though you know it's weird to think about about the year 1990.
• 40:53
  Ryan Baron North: The late 20th century yeah.
• 40:57
  James Crosslin: And that was like a pre-Internet Boom Society, where information really wasn't available at your fingertips.
• 41:03
  James Crosslin: You had to like, go looking for it.
• 41:04
  James Crosslin: Yeah, it's pretty wild.
• 41:06
  Ryan Baron North: We grew up in a pretty crazy time, oh, so maybe we could forgive that one, but I would call ahead.
• 41:13
  James Crosslin: Yeah, how are things looking, not great.
• 41:21
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah not that Maybe I should stay home, yeah, all three weeks out, then I'll show up.
• 41:27
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, shit.
• 41:31
  James Crosslin: Yeah, I would say I wouldn't.
• 41:33
  James Crosslin: If I was there, I wouldn't sniff the eggs like a pervert, like Grant did.
• 41:38
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, that was wild.
• 41:39
  James Crosslin: He's sniffing the eggs.
• 41:40
  James Crosslin: He's like, yeah, that is.
• 41:42
  Ryan Baron North: Well, what is the key element or key decision that would define your time on Jurassic Park, that you did differently, that I did differently.
• 41:56
  James Crosslin: I would instruct the kids to crawl through the fence at those holes that were definitely large enough for a child.
• 42:05
  Ryan Baron North: Clearly visible yeah.
• 42:07
  James Crosslin: Clearly large enough for a child to crawl through, and I think that that probably would have given us the edge.
• 42:13
  James Crosslin: Peter wouldn't be limping and shit, or whatever.
• 42:15
  James Crosslin: His name, timmy wouldn't, be limping and shit and he'd take down one of the raptors by stabbing in the eye with kitchenware or something I don't know.
• 42:27
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, that was such a heavy.
• 42:29
  Ryan Baron North: There was such a heavy handed message in there of hey man, it's time to have kids.
• 42:37
  James Crosslin: Yeah, the, the, the un, un.
• 42:40
  James Crosslin: Well, what's the?
• 42:41
  James Crosslin: What's the word I'm looking for?
• 42:42
  James Crosslin: Oh shit, I had a word for this.
• 42:45
  James Crosslin: Well, he was.
• 42:48
  James Crosslin: He didn't want kids, but he was prepared to be a father, like.
• 42:53
  James Crosslin: When the time arose, he was like, he was totally prepared, he stepped up and he was a father figure to those kids.
• 43:01
  James Crosslin: He protected them and made sure they were safe, except for the electric fence.
• 43:08
  James Crosslin: Yeah, that was like oh well, it's like they were in the writer's room going.
• 43:15
  Ryan Baron North: We need to insert these cookie cutter scenes of tension.
• 43:22
  James Crosslin: Yeah.
• 43:23
  Ryan Baron North: And that that's all the fence was for sure.
• 43:26
  James Crosslin: Yeah, I don't.
• 43:27
  James Crosslin: They could have just done like a more chain link style fence, but they didn't want to obscure the faces of their actors and stuff.
• 43:35
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:36
  Ryan Baron North: Well, so if I was inserted into this, well first, if I was directing this thing, we're trying hereditary and Jurassic Park and dinosaurs.
• 43:45
  Ryan Baron North: That's.
• 43:45
  Ryan Baron North: That's what we're trying, yeah.
• 43:47
  James Crosslin: They've.
• 43:48
  James Crosslin: They've tried it nowadays, but they didn't do the animatronic portion which you need the animatronic with the CGI overlay.
• 43:55
  James Crosslin: They just skip that animatronic part now.
• 43:58
  Ryan Baron North: They do.
• 43:58
  Ryan Baron North: No, and just the slow building tension, I mean, because of lots of raptors, terrifying, and that's all we need.
• 44:09
  Ryan Baron North: So if we just slowly creep him up, forget about it.
• 44:13
  Ryan Baron North: The movie's fucking made, yeah, but then if I was there, I would stop leaving all of the places of safety that were available to them for one, yeah.
• 44:28
  James Crosslin: And would you leave?
• 44:30
  James Crosslin: Would you leave the other people in the park to die?
• 44:33
  Ryan Baron North: No, no, so we got to figure that part out.
• 44:36
  Ryan Baron North: So yeah, I mean I'm with you there.
• 44:39
  Ryan Baron North: We're definitely bringing a gun, for sure.
• 44:44
  James Crosslin: Where are the guns?
• 44:45
  James Crosslin: Very first question All the gauntlets, all the fences are shutting down.
• 44:50
  James Crosslin: Why would he shut the fences down?
• 44:52
  James Crosslin: Where are the guns?
• 44:53
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, I need to be honest, right.
• 44:56
  James Crosslin: Tell me right now where the guns are.
• 44:58
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, and you know I wouldn't be having this whole.
• 45:02
  Ryan Baron North: You know well, like he gets like really weird about the hunting part of it.
• 45:08
  Ryan Baron North: Like I get, you're a hunter, but like dude, come on, we get your shit together, All right, Jesus Christ, yeah, no, so I would have a gun on me and look, at the end of the day, asteroid or not, there is a reason why we are the dominant species on this fucking planet and we might lose a couple of us.
• 45:29
  Ryan Baron North: But I see Velociraptor, I kill Velociraptor.
• 45:33
  Ryan Baron North: Moving on that whole.
• 45:35
  Ryan Baron North: Oh, they're coming from the sides, shit.
• 45:37
  Ryan Baron North: Well, I'm going to back up.
• 45:39
  James Crosslin: But I'd say that, you know, in the movie they say that Velociraptors are, you know, almost they're like the most intelligent dinosaur and they could, if they hadn't all died, that they could have been the dominant form of life on the planet.
• 45:54
  James Crosslin: So sure they're very intelligent or whatever, but a lot of intelligence, as we know, is part it's passed down, so Velociraptors would have had some kind of oral tradition of like teaching each other you know what was important in life and how to be better at things.
• 46:17
  James Crosslin: But these Velociraptors were born out of eggs to no parents, right?
• 46:21
  Ryan Baron North: Yes, yeah, yeah, I don't exactly understand Antibian DNA.
• 46:25
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, not even the normal raptor DNA.
• 46:30
  James Crosslin: So I mean I don't see them hunt.
• 46:33
  James Crosslin: When Grant says that they hunt and packs and like one will attack you from the side, I don't know where he's getting that from.
• 46:39
  James Crosslin: How the fuck could you learn that from a fucking fossil?
• 46:41
  James Crosslin: That's stupid to imply that and then they have it pay off in the end or whatever.
• 46:47
  James Crosslin: But that would those pack hunting tactics and stuff.
• 46:50
  James Crosslin: How instinctual are those?
• 46:52
  James Crosslin: Yeah, those are taught behaviors.
• 46:54
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, no.
• 46:55
  Ryan Baron North: So for me there, I mean so my famous Jeff Globlum scene where I like break the theme of the horror.
• 47:03
  Ryan Baron North: You know that scene where the raptors face, like moves into camera while you're hiding behind the counter, you know, and so it's like face to face with the raptor.
• 47:11
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, when the raptor would, you know, do his little thing right and and he does his little growl and like that's cute, you wanted to say that into my microphone.
• 47:21
  Ryan Baron North: And then the raptor would, like bird style, look down at the revolver that I'm aimed at his fucking chin, and then that, and I'd cover my ear real fast.
• 47:31
  James Crosslin: And then fucking brains out.
• 47:36
  Ryan Baron North: And yeah, so yeah, I would avoid it going.
• 47:41
  Ryan Baron North: Prattian, yeah, but I mean, his ship was ridiculous.
• 47:47
  Ryan Baron North: The Raptors with the fucking motorcycle.
• 47:49
  Ryan Baron North: That was so goddamn dumb.
• 47:51
  James Crosslin: It was very dumb.
• 47:53
  Ryan Baron North: That was the dumbest shit.
• 47:55
  James Crosslin: The problem is like did you see 65, I think, is the name of the movie.
• 48:00
  James Crosslin: It's supposed to be like 65 million years ago and it's what's his face gets sent back and Adam, no, no, no.
• 48:11
  Ryan Baron North: Oh, adam Drive, I actually did want to see that.
• 48:14
  Ryan Baron North: I wanted to see that.
• 48:14
  Ryan Baron North: No, don't see it, garbage.
• 48:17
  Ryan Baron North: I mean you can see it.
• 48:18
  James Crosslin: Go check it out.
• 48:19
  James Crosslin: It's horror.
• 48:20
  James Crosslin: You know it's a horror movie, but I think that I think that I can see how your idea could go wrong because of that movie.
• 48:28
  Ryan Baron North: Okay.
• 48:29
  James Crosslin: Yeah, I think that you're right to go the hereditary track with it, where it's like, yeah, a lot of a long, long first act, and then things, and then things start ramping up right.
• 48:40
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, and then the violence.
• 48:43
  James Crosslin: It's kind of what we had.
• 48:43
  James Crosslin: Just that's what we had here, that's what we had.
• 48:46
  James Crosslin: Jurassic Park is an hour, the first act is an hour and then, and then shit turns.
• 48:53
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, yeah, oh, oh, oh my, I have one more.
• 48:57
  Ryan Baron North: What, if all, right, so you insert me into this, right I would.
• 49:01
  Ryan Baron North: I would be the guy in the first fucking scene, strongly, strongly advising that my boy stops threatening the chubby kid Like dude.
• 49:14
  Ryan Baron North: This is really bad optics.
• 49:15
  Ryan Baron North: You're like doing, you're saying some serial killer shit at this kid.
• 49:20
  Ryan Baron North: I don't, I know he insulted the dinos.
• 49:22
  Ryan Baron North: I understand, I know you're weird about this stuff, but you're freaking everybody out.
• 49:29
  James Crosslin: I made a note, I said.
• 49:31
  James Crosslin: I said maybe we have a society of move too far away from scaring children for fun, because this was 1993, different time back.
• 49:41
  Ryan Baron North: They scared children.
• 49:42
  James Crosslin: You can scare their shit out of children.
• 49:44
  James Crosslin: I would be like, maybe that was better.
• 49:50
  Ryan Baron North: Maybe, maybe, well, I don't know, I would enjoy.
• 49:55
  James Crosslin: I'm an adult who would love scaring a random child, but society says no.
• 50:02
  Ryan Baron North: Well, what year was this?
• 50:03
  Ryan Baron North: What year was?
• 50:03
  James Crosslin: this, it was 1993.
• 50:06
  Ryan Baron North: 1993.
• 50:08
  Ryan Baron North: , Okay, so that kid was a little older than us, which sounds like an exer.
• 50:11
  James Crosslin: Yeah, it sounds like a time for that, when scaring random children was okay.
• 50:17
  James Crosslin: It sounds like I remember that from my youth, where scaring children was okay.
• 50:22
  James Crosslin: I got scared by random people all the time.
• 50:25
  Ryan Baron North: Oh yeah, well, I mean honestly.
• 50:28
  Ryan Baron North: So if that kid's anything like me being brought up at that time where some adults can just essentially do whatever they want and parents you can fear, I was working that shit out until my late twenties, yeah, you know I.
• 50:43
  James Crosslin: So I don't know we got to keep these youths busy.
• 50:46
  James Crosslin: They're coming up with these crazy NFTs and shit.
• 50:48
  James Crosslin: Keep them busy with their trauma so they don't have time to fuck around.
• 50:51
  James Crosslin: Yeah, keep them busy with their trauma.
• 50:52
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, yeah no, I mean like shit.
• 50:55
  Ryan Baron North: I mean 2016 hit and I was just just starting to actually solve the problems that I can accumulate it in my childhood.
• 51:04
  Ryan Baron North: So thanks.
• 51:10
  James Crosslin: I love, yeah, yeah, I love this movie.
• 51:16
  Ryan Baron North: Well, you got a final one.
• 51:20
  James Crosslin: Final one, if I don't know, I probably would have.
• 51:22
  James Crosslin: It's like every one of these movies where I watch and we get to what the one if portion is like oh, I'd die very quickly or fuck someone.
• 51:28
  James Crosslin: I'd die and fuck and or die, and I don't know.
• 51:33
  James Crosslin: I guess that's just me, man, I guess.
• 51:35
  Ryan Baron North: I mean Jeff Goldblum running anywhere.
• 51:39
  James Crosslin: It's true, I don't know.
• 51:41
  Ryan Baron North: It was got his chest out.
• 51:43
  James Crosslin: I think that in that scene I would have left the, the, the dinosaur behavior actions, to the expert and I would have stayed in the fucking car.
• 51:55
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah.
• 51:56
  James Crosslin: Instead of instead of breaking my own flare and running around Ian Malcolm was such a idiot in that scene.
• 52:03
  Ryan Baron North: Well, I stayed in the car.
• 52:04
  Ryan Baron North: Well, for my final.
• 52:06
  Ryan Baron North: What if I you had brought up a good point earlier about the Jeff Goldblum chest scene.
• 52:12
  Ryan Baron North: Chest scene where he's someone who cares.
• 52:17
  Ryan Baron North: You know, he's an intelligent guy, obviously.
• 52:20
  Ryan Baron North: I mean, he was the only one who was picking up on the bullshit right away, but he cared very much about people's perception of him.
• 52:27
  Ryan Baron North: And that's when, when you said that I'm like I don't think I'm drunk enough for that particular enlightened thought, but I'm definitely Jeff Goldblum.
• 52:39
  James Crosslin: Yeah.
• 52:40
  Ryan Baron North: I'm, I'm, I'd be super concerned about my appearance through this whole fucking thing.
• 52:48
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, so yeah, there's the other.
• 52:52
  Ryan Baron North: What if it?
• 52:53
  Ryan Baron North: So the final one is he's like no, he's laid out.
• 52:57
  Ryan Baron North: He's laid up with his shirt out and then it flash cuts to the other side of the room where I'm just like kind of doing the same thing.
• 53:06
  James Crosslin: You've ripped your shirt, you got.
• 53:09
  James Crosslin: You're like I think this pose is better.
• 53:10
  James Crosslin: Yeah.
• 53:12
  Ryan Baron North: And so, yeah, him and I would just flex on each other.
• 53:14
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, I'm also very smart.
• 53:18
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, I'm also very intelligent.
• 53:21
  Ryan Baron North: But yeah, check that out.
• 53:26
  James Crosslin: To have two of you.
• 53:27
  James Crosslin: They'd be so confused.
• 53:31
  Ryan Baron North: The viewers.
• 53:32
  Ryan Baron North: What is going on?
• 53:34
  Ryan Baron North: And I'm like this is 1993, bro, you don't know what a macro is just yet.
• 53:39
  Ryan Baron North: You're just kind of going off of intuition.
• 53:41
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, yeah, I know what a calorie is and how to actually utilize that.
• 53:50
  Ryan Baron North: So, yeah, that'd be if you're a strange film and then it's still a redditary horror yeah.
• 53:58
  Ryan Baron North: It'd be a strange film.
• 54:01
  Ryan Baron North: So well, there you have it, folks.
• 54:04
  Ryan Baron North: There's our what if?
• 54:06
  James Crosslin: Yeah, and I've got random.
• 54:08
  James Crosslin: Do we have a?
• 54:08
  James Crosslin: Do we have a name for this horseshit section at the end where we just throw out all the stuff that we didn't get a chance to say Is there?
• 54:15
  James Crosslin: Is there a name for it?
• 54:16
  James Crosslin: Fod vomit?
• 54:17
  James Crosslin: Yeah, let's do it Okay.
• 54:21
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, quick second for your thought vomit.
• 54:22
  Ryan Baron North: What do you got?
• 54:24
  James Crosslin: My thought vomit.
• 54:24
  James Crosslin: I want to eat that Chilean sea bass.
• 54:28
  James Crosslin: It was one of my, it was one of my notes.
• 54:31
  James Crosslin: Nobody ate their food which is short-sighted, because they will need that energy soon.
• 54:37
  Ryan Baron North: Well, there was the ice cream scene.
• 54:40
  James Crosslin: That was.
• 54:40
  James Crosslin: That was much later, and I also wrote I want that ice cream.
• 54:44
  James Crosslin: Can you explain chaos?
• 54:52
  James Crosslin: And I thought I thought it was a fucking great quote.
• 55:05
  Ryan Baron North: Can you explain?
• 55:06
  James Crosslin: chaos.
• 55:07
  James Crosslin: And then I had the answer.
• 55:08
  James Crosslin: See, here I am now by myself, talking to myself that's, that's chaos.
• 55:16
  Ryan Baron North: That was honestly.
• 55:17
  Ryan Baron North: I thought that was a good scene.
• 55:18
  Ryan Baron North: I I enjoyed it.
• 55:19
  James Crosslin: That was a really good one.
• 55:20
  Ryan Baron North: That was a good one.
• 55:20
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, love it.
• 55:22
  Ryan Baron North: Let's see.
• 55:26
  James Crosslin: What else do I have?
• 55:27
  James Crosslin: I love how shitty the bathroom is, that all the interior walls fall away immediately.
• 55:33
  Ryan Baron North: Instantly yeah.
• 55:35
  James Crosslin: I love.
• 55:35
  James Crosslin: I love relating that to the spared no expense how everything turns out to be bullshit about the spared no expense.
• 55:42
  James Crosslin: I was like who the fuck is someone Riley, like, he's like that the voice you're hearing is this person's spared no expense.
• 55:50
  James Crosslin: I don't know the fuck that is.
• 55:52
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, I meant to.
• 55:54
  Ryan Baron North: Actually that was one of my thoughts.
• 55:55
  Ryan Baron North: I meant to Google him and I never did.
• 55:57
  Ryan Baron North: If I ever do, I did.
• 56:00
  James Crosslin: Google him, he isn't.
• 56:02
  James Crosslin: He was an actor and I don't know how big he was, to whatever generation Hammond is, but I'm but I was like he wasn't doing anything in 1993.
• 56:12
  James Crosslin: I don't think I would have heard of him then either.
• 56:14
  James Crosslin: I've heard of.
• 56:15
  James Crosslin: I've heard of famous actors from older eras.
• 56:18
  James Crosslin: I'm not an idiot.
• 56:18
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:19
  James Crosslin: But I've never heard of this guy, you know.
• 56:21
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, no, that's Brad Pitt.
• 56:24
  Ryan Baron North: We spared no expense.
• 56:25
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, my final.
• 56:28
  Ryan Baron North: What if?
• 56:28
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, brad Pitt would have been the one Get ready to die everybody.
• 56:38
  James Crosslin: Thanks, Brad.
• 56:39
  James Crosslin: So little girls stares of horror are.
• 56:42
  James Crosslin: She kills it whenever she has to express horror.
• 56:44
  James Crosslin: She does a great job.
• 56:45
  James Crosslin: She did yeah.
• 56:46
  Ryan Baron North: No, she did Good point.
• 56:48
  Ryan Baron North: Good point, good point.
• 56:51
  James Crosslin: I love the pelicans at the end because, to quote the movie role models, dinosaurs aren't extinct, because birds are dinosaurs and they're everywhere.
• 56:59
  James Crosslin: And that was the pelicans at the end.
• 57:01
  James Crosslin: They're like flying next to the helicopter.
• 57:03
  James Crosslin: I was like dinosaurs.
• 57:04
  James Crosslin: Continue on today.
• 57:05
  Ryan Baron North: Yep, no, solid.
• 57:07
  Ryan Baron North: Hey, I like it.
• 57:09
  Ryan Baron North: So there you have it, folks.
• 57:10
  Ryan Baron North: Thank you all so much for the always no, no, no.
• 57:13
  James Crosslin: I got one more.
• 57:14
  James Crosslin: One thing that I meant to do with high thoughts was an unexpected there's an unexpected arc between both the people and the dinosaurs that children make life harder.
• 57:25
  James Crosslin: The dinosaurs weren't expected to have any children and they ended up yeah, no one was expecting the dinosaurs, including themselves, to have children, and Grant wasn't expecting to have to deal with children, and they both happened in this movie.
• 57:40
  James Crosslin: Unexpected children make life harder.
• 57:45
  Ryan Baron North: Well, that's almost counterintuitive to the have children theme that they're.
• 57:50
  Ryan Baron North: Well that's interesting.
• 57:52
  James Crosslin: It's hidden in there.
• 57:54
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, well, what are they trying to say?
• 57:56
  Ryan Baron North: What was the?
• 57:56
  Ryan Baron North: Again it comes down to like what are you trying to say?
• 57:59
  Ryan Baron North: Were you trying to say something, or are you bad at your job?
• 58:01
  Ryan Baron North: I want to know what the children make life more interesting.
• 58:05
  James Crosslin: Do you want to have kids or do you not?
• 58:07
  James Crosslin: He doesn't.
• 58:08
  James Crosslin: He doesn't end up having kids.
• 58:11
  Ryan Baron North: Oh, you're.
• 58:12
  Ryan Baron North: You mean in the, in the community In Jurassic Park?
• 58:14
  James Crosslin: 3.
• 58:14
  James Crosslin: Yeah, in Jurassic Park 3, he is, he comes back.
• 58:17
  James Crosslin: He doesn't have kids.
• 58:17
  James Crosslin: Well, I don't know, Sadler does have a kid with someone else because he still wasn't able to commit to having a child.
• 58:25
  James Crosslin: Sadler did have kids, but really I forget someone I have forgotten, oh, my Lord, this film Wow, interesting, interesting.
• 58:36
  James Crosslin: Interesting.
• 58:37
  James Crosslin: Yeah, he never.
• 58:37
  James Crosslin: He never made a move.
• 58:40
  Ryan Baron North: Wow, he's.
• 58:41
  Ryan Baron North: And she didn't get with Jeff Goldblum.
• 58:42
  Ryan Baron North: What?
• 58:43
  James Crosslin: an idiot.
• 58:44
  James Crosslin: No, I wouldn't be able to stand 10 minutes with Jeff Goldblum, but I.
• 58:48
  James Crosslin: But you said you're like Jeff Goldblum, so maybe I could, maybe do it.
• 58:51
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah Well, maybe I'm just.
• 58:53
  Ryan Baron North: Maybe I'm just like I'm projecting on a Jeff Goldblum because I see him as me.
• 58:57
  Ryan Baron North: I'm like of course everyone wants to have kids with me.
• 59:00
  Ryan Baron North: That's all I'm doing.
• 59:03
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, and thoughts, though, just while on Sam Neill and before we finally let our captive audience go.
• 59:12
  Ryan Baron North: Some potential good movies for high and dry in the future event horizon.
• 59:19
  James Crosslin: Oh yeah.
• 59:20
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, and the the Lovecraft one he did, do you?
• 59:26
  James Crosslin: remember that was the horizon.
• 59:27
  Ryan Baron North: No, no, no.
• 59:28
  Ryan Baron North: He did a few and he also did like in the mouth of madness.
• 59:30
  Ryan Baron North: He did a straight up snatch from an HP Lovecraft work and, like no one, saw it?
• 59:36
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, it's in the mouth of madness in 1994.
• 59:39
  Ryan Baron North: It was the next year.
• 59:40
  Ryan Baron North: No one saw it, but it is.
• 59:43
  Ryan Baron North: It is a trip.
• 59:47
  James Crosslin: So I'm telling you, Sam Neill has a thread of horror Like, and it's just.
• 59:51
  James Crosslin: It strengthens my argument he's a horror actor and he's good at it.
• 59:58
  Ryan Baron North: Well, he did possession, he did event horizon, he did in the mouth of madness, he did those, and they were all super, trippy, super trippy.
• 1:00:09
  James Crosslin: He was the main vampire in Daybreakers.
• 1:00:13
  Ryan Baron North: Wow, yeah so.
• 1:00:15
  James Crosslin: Sam Neill is awesome.
• 1:00:16
  James Crosslin: I love Sam Neill as an actor.
• 1:00:18
  James Crosslin: Yeah, he was awesome in Peaky Blinders.
• 1:00:23
  James Crosslin: He was, he was.
• 1:00:24
  James Crosslin: He played such a great piece of shit.
• 1:00:27
  James Crosslin: He was a piece of shit.
• 1:00:29
  James Crosslin: He was so good at it.
• 1:00:31
  James Crosslin: He was so good.
• 1:00:32
  Ryan Baron North: I don't know what the accent was.
• 1:00:34
  James Crosslin: I don't know if that accent is a real accent, but man.
• 1:00:37
  Ryan Baron North: He was a piece of shit, I'm sure, like an Irish thing.
• 1:00:39
  James Crosslin: I don't know.
• 1:00:39
  James Crosslin: I don't know what the fuck he was doing.
• 1:00:41
  James Crosslin: It was, he was a choice.
• 1:00:42
  Ryan Baron North: I was in New, Zealand.
• 1:00:43
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, it was a choice.
• 1:00:44
  Ryan Baron North: It was a choice.
• 1:00:45
  Ryan Baron North: Well, I mean he had I liked him.
• 1:00:51
  James Crosslin: Well, he had fucking.
• 1:00:52
  Ryan Baron North: Yeah, captive audience, like you all are.
• 1:00:54
  James Crosslin: So I all right, there you go.
• 1:00:55
  James Crosslin: Maybe in the future we'll do more.
• 1:00:57
  Ryan Baron North: Sam Neill, this has been high and dry podcast.
• 1:00:59
  Ryan Baron North: Thank you so much for listening.
• 1:01:03
  Ryan Baron North: You didn't say the magic word Bye.
• 1:01:07
  Ryan Baron North: Bye.