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7-07-26 Hour 2 - Same ol' USA Men's Soccer/DeRozan to Nugs, Hellebucuk to Avs?/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Motioner Lombardi and Caine on demand.
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  Speaker 2: Listen live every weekday morning from seven to ten on
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio app. Motion Lombardi can hour number two. On
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  Speaker 2: this beautiful Tuesday in the Mile Eye City, Vic is
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  Speaker 2: right there doing his thing. Now, he's doing his thing, Hey, Vica,
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  Speaker 2: our boy Brett's got an issue right now, the kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of issues you usually have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got fast. He's got a growler. So we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna handle it till he gets back. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about this, getting a cup of coffee. Vic.
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  Speaker 2: You you you started off the program, Tork did that.
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  Speaker 2: The USA lost yesterday last night, Tork.
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  Speaker 1: That they lost, disappointed enter in which they lost the
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  Speaker 1: man the way they lost. It's it's the laying that
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  Speaker 1: look on some of those plays.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, I was gonna ask you, how long
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna take you to get over it? I'm all radio,
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  Speaker 2: so am I You know, with the Avs lost, it
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  Speaker 2: took forever. With the Nuggets lost, it took forever.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're embedded in those teas.
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  Speaker 2: Rocos lost took a long time, right, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: love my country. I hope that they had a better
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  Speaker 2: showing than they did. I wanted them to win, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm pretty much over it. I'm gonna watch today,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I watch more more soccer today, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: be like, okay. I mean, it would be more fun,
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  Speaker 2: obviously if if the US would move on. But I
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  Speaker 2: didn't expect them to win this thing. I didn't expect
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  Speaker 2: them to get to the quarters. That was all just
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  Speaker 2: pie in the sky stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right. The manner in which the US
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  Speaker 1: lost makes it easier to just rip the bandaid off
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  Speaker 1: and move on, because had they played them as their
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  Speaker 1: equals had lost, let's say, in sudden death peaks, then
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  Speaker 1: you'd be like, damn, you know, they were so close close,
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  Speaker 1: but they weren't close. The back line had holes all
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  Speaker 1: over it. The ponytail guy got beat every time. The
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  Speaker 1: goalie was awful. That third goal they gave up. What
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  Speaker 1: the hell was that? I don't know. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know how to describe that, Like, how do you tell
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  Speaker 1: your kids twenty five years from now? Are grandkids? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: The third goal. The goalie came out to try to
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  Speaker 1: make a play on the ball. Then he was about
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  Speaker 1: to kick the ball and he kicked the ground behind
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  Speaker 1: him instead, and then the opposing player kicked it toward
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  Speaker 1: the goal. Ponytail guy had a chance to stop it,
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  Speaker 1: but then he had like a convulsion mid mid flight
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  Speaker 1: and couldn't stop it. What the hell was that sequence?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what we were talking to
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  Speaker 2: dmac yesterday. I think he got in, I think, but nonetheless.
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  Speaker 1: He did not get in. He watched didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but imagine imagine spending two g's on a ticket
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  Speaker 2: and then they just they just lay down like that.
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  Speaker 2: And again that first save, I'm like, whow okay, maybe
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  Speaker 2: it dodds their best chance of that. Maybe you did
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  Speaker 2: No man, They had another chance right after that, and
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  Speaker 2: then they poured it on, even when it was one one,
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  Speaker 2: even when Tilman scored him Like this, this is not
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  Speaker 2: happening today. How medical was simply not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: That goal by Tilman kick goal. You're sitting there going
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  Speaker 1: give this guy the ball all over the field. He
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  Speaker 1: can't miss right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he he overplayed his expectations. I thought for the
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  Speaker 1: entire tournament, Balligan was tremendous. Pulisic was awful, polistic, did nothing, nothing,
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  Speaker 1: nothing but get hurt.
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  Speaker 2: He's hurt all the time, all the time. I wonder
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  Speaker 2: how you see ac Milan feels about that.
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  Speaker 1: The back line was awful, Freeze was not good. Freeze froze,
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  Speaker 1: freeze froze in the moment is what he did. Even
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  Speaker 1: on those first two goals, you could ask your goalie,
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  Speaker 1: knowing the balls being crossed from a close angle, maybe
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  Speaker 1: get out of the goal mouth a little bit and
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  Speaker 1: challenge one of.
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  Speaker 2: Those balls, punch whatever, yeah, to catch you I mean whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Right, He he stood there and he put himself in
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  Speaker 1: these vulnerable positions. And then on the second goal, right
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  Speaker 1: after you you take back the momentum, on the amazing
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  Speaker 1: free kick, he take it back. And then to give
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  Speaker 1: up that second goal so quickly, so swiftly, and so easily,
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  Speaker 1: when again ponytail guy gets bodied, gets muscled by the tall,
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  Speaker 1: lanky Belgian dude, just I mean out muscled. Isn't that
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  Speaker 1: why you're on the field. Isn't that your only role?
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  Speaker 2: Vic The apprehension from the get go, it just felt
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  Speaker 2: felt like apprehension. In Belgium, they can smell it. They're like,
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  Speaker 2: let's go get them, And that's exactly what they did. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you do you think it was nerves? No? No, no, no, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody says here they didn't give Palistic the ball enough.
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  Speaker 1: When he got the ball, he turned it over.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: If you watch the same game, he tried to the ball,
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  Speaker 1: stayed on his foot for two seconds, and he would
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  Speaker 1: turn it over.
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  Speaker 3: Du So he had eleven He led the game in
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  Speaker 3: those he had eleven of them.
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  Speaker 4: And what what he played forty some minutes?
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  Speaker 1: What was it?
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  Speaker 2: He just he couldn't he couldn't hang on to the ball.
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  Speaker 2: They challenged him, and he shrunk every single time. So
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  Speaker 2: we were talking about it, Brett, while you were doing
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  Speaker 2: what you do.
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  Speaker 3: I had a gallbladder attack. Yeah, I don't have a.
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  Speaker 2: We were saying that that I'm already over this thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm already over it. I mean, it's disappointing, it won't
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  Speaker 2: be as fun going forward, but i'd expect I'm not
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  Speaker 2: and I'm over it. I'm over it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't know if it's if it's I asked
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  Speaker 5: this question earlier, if it's unfair, unfair in this sense,
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  Speaker 5: part of me is like, okay, that was one of
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  Speaker 5: the better runs that they've had in the World Cup
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  Speaker 5: in a long time.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I should be more grateful for the.
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  Speaker 3: Run that they had, but for it like if they
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  Speaker 3: lost two to one and it was like a close
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  Speaker 3: game and maybe had a couple of shots that barely
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  Speaker 3: missed or something like, I'd feel a lot better about it.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, I feel I almost feel better about that.
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  Speaker 1: The approach now is like your your moon's away. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: what we thought they were.
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  Speaker 3: What I was gonna say, vic, is I feel worse
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  Speaker 3: about where they're going to be down the line. Like,
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  Speaker 3: here's I guess the bottom line to me?
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  Speaker 4: Is it even possible?
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  Speaker 3: And I mean this genuinely for the US to be
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  Speaker 3: a dominant power in this sport when in reality it
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  Speaker 3: is at best the fifth most popular sport in America.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's how we build our players from youth to pros.
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  Speaker 1: And there there's a theory behind this, and it's valid theory.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get into that in a second, but let me
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  Speaker 1: just read Lance on the text line. Great one here,
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  Speaker 1: Lance says, certainly, no David Freeze, no clutch in his body.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember David Freeze, the Cardinal player who was
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  Speaker 1: just clutch? Yeah, I wonder if they're related anyway. But
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  Speaker 1: he's right about this. The way we build our soccer
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  Speaker 1: players in this country is the American capitalistic way. And
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  Speaker 1: just to give you a quick recap, this is without
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  Speaker 1: going into detail because I know that bores mosure when
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  Speaker 1: you're when you're a kid, you pay to go play
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  Speaker 1: club sports. In America, you pay you. It has to
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  Speaker 1: come out of your wallet, like it played club lacrosse,
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  Speaker 1: you played club golf, whatever you pay. The European soccer
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  Speaker 1: model is they actually go look for talent and you
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  Speaker 1: belong to that club. And that club it's they nurture you,
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  Speaker 1: they cultivate you, they develop you. You're not paying to
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  Speaker 1: go play for the club. Nothing's coming out of the
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  Speaker 1: family's pocket. They see the talent, they recognize it. Now
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  Speaker 1: they own you essentially, and that's how they develop the
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  Speaker 1: skill by playing among like minded and athletically minded players.
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  Speaker 1: We're all about capitalism here. Oh I want I want
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  Speaker 1: Junior to go play with that travel team. Well here's
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  Speaker 1: eight grand.
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  Speaker 2: You may not be good enough, but.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that applies in other sports. Basketball has gotten
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  Speaker 3: insane with how much money it's starting to course. It
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  Speaker 3: don't even think about but what I'm getting at is
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  Speaker 3: is it possible to have a top tier soccer team
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  Speaker 3: in a country that does not consider soccer a top
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  Speaker 3: tier sport.
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  Speaker 1: Let me answer this following question, Dan, and Windsor answer
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  Speaker 1: my question first? Wait, what was the question? I'm sorry?
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  Speaker 3: Is it possible to have a top tier soccer team
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  Speaker 3: in a country where soccer is not a top tier sport?
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  Speaker 3: Plenty of kids play it, but football, basketball, baseball, and
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  Speaker 3: hockey are the top ones in this country. And you
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  Speaker 3: can tell that because we have what we call the
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  Speaker 3: four major sports in this country.
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  Speaker 1: We have enough people in this country, enough money in
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  Speaker 1: this country. Yes, I mean we spread it around. We
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  Speaker 1: have a top tier basketball squad. We have a top
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  Speaker 1: tier baseball squad, we have a top tier football squad.
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  Speaker 1: We have top tier in many different sports. Because we
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  Speaker 1: have such a large population in vast resources. Why not
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  Speaker 1: add another Yes, the answer is yes if you really
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  Speaker 1: wanted to. But we're going about it backwards. Somebody asked
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  Speaker 1: this question on the text line Dane, why can we
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  Speaker 1: do it in women's soccer but not men's The women's
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  Speaker 1: soccer team is won World Cups, right, They've been successful?
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  Speaker 1: Pretty simple, Dan, because the rest of the world until
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  Speaker 1: now doesn't care about women's soccer.
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  Speaker 3: True, that's true, and that's blunt truth. It's also soccer
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  Speaker 3: is a I think I think this is true. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's not. I was gonna say, a far more popular
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  Speaker 3: sport on the women's side than it is on the
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  Speaker 3: men's side.
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  Speaker 1: In the youth levels. I can tell you this, Colorado,
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  Speaker 1: we are a we are a cultivated soil plot of
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  Speaker 1: land in women's soccer. For sure, we produce so much
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  Speaker 1: talent on the women's side. But the difference is the
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  Speaker 1: US has always been on the cutting edge of women's
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  Speaker 1: soccer and women's sports. Frankly yep. So of course the
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  Speaker 1: US developed teams better than some of the European countries
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  Speaker 1: who up until now ignored women's sports.
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  Speaker 3: True, I mean, I totally agree with it. It's uh,
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  Speaker 3: here's I guess. My way of thinking is I've heard
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  Speaker 3: pretty much my entire life growing up that the US is, uh, oh,
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  Speaker 3: they're about, you know, eight to ten years away from
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  Speaker 3: being really good, and then they lose kind of like
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  Speaker 3: this in the World Cup, and then it's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: eight to ten years from now they're gonna and then
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  Speaker 3: it's like, how many how many times are we going.
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  Speaker 2: To do this before?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you just admit, maybe you'll never be just at
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  Speaker 3: the top of the sport. Maybe it's always going to
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  Speaker 3: be dominated by the Europeans because they care way more
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  Speaker 3: about it than we do.
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  Speaker 2: Two weeks to flatten the curve.
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  Speaker 3: I well most most listen. Just look at the reactions,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe this tells you all you need to know.
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  Speaker 3: Look at the reactions of people who were fans of
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  Speaker 3: other countries in soccer when their team loses, they they sob,
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  Speaker 3: They drop to the ground and curl up in the
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  Speaker 3: fetal position. We lost last night and I went, ah,
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  Speaker 3: damn it, and I switched the channel and soccer and
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  Speaker 3: I did the same thing, like I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think you can be a country that is like in
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  Speaker 3: Argentina when you don't have the same level of passion
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  Speaker 3: that they do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's not just passion. You got to go back
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  Speaker 1: to the finances and the field day approach. We take
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of sports here, the no cut approach.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody gets cut if you want to, if you pay
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  Speaker 1: to play, you're gonna play. That's the approach we take.
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  Speaker 1: And frankly, in Europe they have academies and the German Federation,
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  Speaker 1: for example, the Spanish Federation, they have academies and only
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  Speaker 1: the best go play for those academies. And guess what
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  Speaker 1: those academies. If you're not good enough, you're cut. There's
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  Speaker 1: nothing mommy and daddy can do to keep you in there.
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  Speaker 1: If you're not good enough, they can't pay. The weakest
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  Speaker 1: links get cut. But here in the United States, all
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  Speaker 1: the weakest links have to do is pay more money,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's backwards.
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  Speaker 2: I saw what we do. I watched the Messi special
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  Speaker 2: from ESPN about how the VHS tape and the hoole
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  Speaker 2: nine yards. Yeah, well he couldn't. He'd argent He was
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  Speaker 2: unknown in his own country, Argentina. He went to Barcelona
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  Speaker 2: as like a thirteen fourteen year old. They took him
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  Speaker 2: into their academy there. Argentina didn't even know about him
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  Speaker 2: until he started tearing it up.
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  Speaker 1: He left his family the pen Is. He became a
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  Speaker 1: pro athlete at the age of twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, he was gone. Spain was trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: out a way for him to play for Spain and
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  Speaker 2: not Argentina. He finally did, like when he's seventeen eighteen
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  Speaker 2: the Argentinians are like, oh, somebody said the VHS tape
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  Speaker 2: to that, and they're like, who the hell is this
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  Speaker 2: guy was? I mean it was fascinating, but's talking about
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  Speaker 2: the cultivation and about the way they do it, the
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  Speaker 2: way they do it in Europe and even South America.
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  Speaker 2: If it's completely If I tell you.
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  Speaker 3: This though, like I think this just on the surface level,
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  Speaker 3: this tells you all you need to know. If footballs
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  Speaker 3: are on sport, I won't even include it. Basketball, you
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  Speaker 3: have plenty of Americans that are considered one of the
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  Speaker 3: best in the world. I mean, I know, Shaye Canadian
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  Speaker 3: and jokers from Serbia, and you have really good international players.
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  Speaker 3: But you can find a ton of really good American
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  Speaker 3: players that are at the top of the sport hockey. Mos.
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  Speaker 3: I know a lot of Canadians are the best in hockey,
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  Speaker 3: but you can name a whole bunch of Americans that
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  Speaker 3: are really damn good that could be in that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Sure you can do it in baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Despite the fact that baseball is seen as like a
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  Speaker 3: Latin sport with Cuba, Dominican Republic, Mexico, a whole bunch
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  Speaker 3: of places. Well, when the World Baseball Classic came around,
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  Speaker 3: the US was the favorite to win it. They didn't,
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  Speaker 3: but they were the favorite. And you have guys like
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Judge. Who the hell is that in soccer? We
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  Speaker 3: thought it's polisic. It's very obviously not policic. He is
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  Speaker 3: not in the same universe as a Messi or an
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  Speaker 3: Imbape or a Holland or.
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  Speaker 1: Whether listen, is it any Is it any coincidence that
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  Speaker 1: the US best players they're developed overseas. They're not even
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  Speaker 1: developed here because we don't have the infrastructure here the
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  Speaker 1: club program to develop them properly. We are a capitalistic
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  Speaker 1: society where the clubs receive money from parents. Over there,
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  Speaker 1: the clubs own the kids' rights and they make money
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  Speaker 1: when they sell those rights. It's a different approach.
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  Speaker 3: But don't I mean, correct me if I'm wrong again,
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  Speaker 3: not an expert in this realm. Don't the Rapids have.
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  Speaker 4: A development league like that with it's kids who are
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  Speaker 4: like teenagers?
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  Speaker 1: Yes and yes, but there's only a few that they
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  Speaker 1: actually do that with. If you want to play for
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  Speaker 1: certain development programs, you just pay to play for them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, three five four, Hey, listen, dude, I had kids
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  Speaker 3: that age.
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  Speaker 1: I know what that is we all fall for it?
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  Speaker 1: We all do. Sure, as parents, you're proud of your
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  Speaker 1: kids athletic achievements. I remember, I remember they get oh wow,
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  Speaker 1: my kid must be really good. At the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, you look, no, he's not. They just needed
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  Speaker 1: an extra body. You have money.
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  Speaker 3: Friday afternoon, the parties at Fiddlesticks in Lakewood. Altitude Sports
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  Speaker 3: playing for and now worth cheering for too. See you
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  Speaker 3: at Fiddlesticks in Lakewood on Friday back after this, all right,
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  Speaker 3: I do want to ask a question in regards to
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  Speaker 3: potentially somebody that the Nuggets should be looking at. Lamar
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Derozem was waived yesterday by the Sacramento Kings. I would
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  Speaker 3: mind it all a little Damar DeRozan on this team.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it would cost. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if he's willing to take, you know, a cheap contract
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  Speaker 3: or if he's looking to get money again, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but he's somebody at thirty six years old that still
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  Speaker 3: averages eighteen points a night, and he's someone that you know,
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  Speaker 3: when shooting goes cold, you need guys to have mid
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  Speaker 3: range games. He's had that his entire career. He really
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: can't shoot from the outside, but he finds a way
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  Speaker 3: to get buckets. I wouldn't mind at all Little lamar derozen.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, if you got him on a cheap deal, are
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  Speaker 1: you kidding me? I would never say no to that,
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, what makes you think he's going to sign
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  Speaker 1: a cheap deal? He's yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know where he's at in
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  Speaker 3: his career, like if he wants to have just another
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  Speaker 3: shot at winning or something like that, if he's made
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  Speaker 3: enough money, like he's not going.
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  Speaker 4: To get a giant pay day anyway. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: but it's something that yesterday.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: He saw that he won with Toronto. Correct he did, yes, yep,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: that one year with Kawai and then that must have.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Been like the toward the end of his Toronto rain.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I think he played a long time in Toronto.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, dude, he's he's a really good player. I
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: think there was he No, was he shipped off in
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: the Kawhi trade?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was traded to San Antonio for.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Kaw Lowry's who I was thinking.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he has So he hasn't won yet because
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: he was a spur, he was a bull and now
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: he's a king or was a king. Yes, so he
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: has a on. You know again, I don't know where
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: that how much has he made in his career? A
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: couple of hundred million probably Maybe.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: What he is Rosen is the Paul George of of
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: DeMar Dea Rosans. That's what he is. He's the Paul
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: George of DeMar Dea Rosans. Guys who just got shipped
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: from team to team to team and the teams they
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: leave end of winning it. You know, I guess I would.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I guess I would. I wouldn't mind him. But I
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: think there are probably going to be other teams interested
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: in his services. That's my guess. Also, I heard the
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Lebron stuff. I'm sure like you guys have, we haven't
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: talked about it yet, that it appears that Cleveland is
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: the destination or they just just get it over with. Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I mean when they're talking about teams that are that
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: are on the outside looking in, it's not even the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Nuggets at all. It's not Miami's on, you know, it's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: it's all these Okay, if they miss on Lebron, nobody's
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: talking about the Nuggets in any way, shape or form
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: vic at all. Uh. They're talking about Golden State, They're
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: talking about Miami, but no Nuggets, no offense.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Bretts. So I can say this, I always love that. Uh,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: but I think it's so stupid when people say if
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: he's made enough money. When does anyone think they've made
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: enough money when they're still in their career. Well, sports
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: are different. I don't know how to explain it. Like,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: there are some guys when they get towards the end
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: of their career, if they are fixated on the goal,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: whether it's for legacy reasons or or just pursuit of
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: a championship, if they don't have one, guys have and
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: will take less money to be in a better situation.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I've done this before. I'm sure you guys have to
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: have you turned down a job that was going to
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: pay you more because you don't think the situation would
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: be better for you.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I've done it. I've done it. You couldn't pay me
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: to go work in like Green Bay.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Kay, couldn't do it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: You'd have to nukee yourself.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: No, no drones strike, drow strike.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I don't want their Okay, Okay, God got copy.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: But all I'm saying is, he's a guy that's been
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: in the league since what two thousand and eight?
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: How long has he been here?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Two thousand and nine, yep, two thousand and nine. He's
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: made a lot of money. If he has goals and
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: aspirations of like I want to win a championship, Well,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: would you be willing to take a couple of million less?
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: I think I get a lot of guys. Would Everybody
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: has their their own idea. Okay, how much? How much
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: is enough?
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: If some of these guys have you know, they've made
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars in their life, and they are
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: pursuing the Transformer ring because these rings nowadays are unbelievable. Yeah,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: they're they're pursuing that the ring to be able to show,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: you know, and pass on as a legacy, then maybe
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: you would take a little bit less bread. I'm not
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: saying you don't take any I'm just saying that that
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I think, how much, how much you know? How much
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: does winning matter to you? And do you want a
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: real clear shot at it?
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I think you guys overplayed, like many of us do.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Regular folk overplay that ring over money thing. They truly do.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I only use it, hang on though, I only use
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: it for guys that, first of all, have made a
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: lot of money already, Second of all, do not have
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: a championship to their name.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: And third of all are late stages of their career.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: But you know, the whole made a lot of money
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: is a relative that's relative to what you think is
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. People who make money like money,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: want more money money me.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I'm saying that this is a common practice that happens
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: a lot, but I think in specific cases like one
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: of the DeMar DeRozan, you were part of a core
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: team that was making the playoffs every year in Toronto
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: that was always seen as a quasi contender, could never
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: get over the hump.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: You get traded.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: The year you get traded is the year that your
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: old team wins the title. You still don't have one.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Maybe somebody like that is motivated by it like Russell
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Westbrook when he's signed here on a minimum deal. He
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: was more than a minimum player, but he saw the.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: You don't think he was.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: You don't think somebody would have given him more than
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: a minimum at that time.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean he was a round a minimum deal.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Like Tim Hardaway is now in Miami Heat. He's not
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: making huge money.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: We've seen it, We've seen it, but.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Tim Tim Hardaway wasn't a max player for a good
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: portion of history.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Karl Malone back in the day did it the very
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: last season.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Just gave away one hundred million dollars to keep Again,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: that's what you.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Saw it right here with the Avalanche. You saw Paul
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Korea and Tim Mussolani take a crack at it for
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: a million bucks each.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Did on his last contract. Did Kill mccarr sign for
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the most money he could have gotten. He took a
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: little bit off the top.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Neither did Nate. So now and now you have an
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: offer sheet out the Carlson at eighteen per unbelievable, unreal.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I think it's it's a difficult
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: point to argue because because Jalen Brunson did it, Now
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: every nugget fan is saying, why isn't Joker doing it?
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think he should.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I don't think that that people have to.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: All I'm saying is that there are some guys in
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: and I think it's aging veterans without a title in
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: certain situations would look at a team and be like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I will take less money for my shot to win.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: There have been yes, it is not the rule. It
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: is the exception to the rule. But the exceptions do exist.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: All I'm asking is, is DeMar Deroz and one of
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: those guys?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And maybe he's not. I don't know this. I'll put
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: this to I'll put this theory to work. All right,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you want an aging veteran, hey Moser, as an aging veteran,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: would you take.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Less money in my catching stra right now?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Is what I'm I'm just using. I'm using Brett's example.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, set up.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: But if I took half of your salary and we won,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know what, what do we win? The Colorado
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Broadcasters Station of the Year or some crap like that.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: You go with that, I take half your salary.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: If I had one hundred million in the bank, Yeah.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that's relative, that's relative. I don't
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: want to hear about how much money would happen to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: hear how much money you'll take.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: That is a part of the discussion, though. It's guys,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you've made a lot already.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Well maybe sometimes you make more, you spend more. My
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: answer to you, Vic would be.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Eat it, and I would fully expect you to say
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: that to me. My answer to you would be get bent. Yes, yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: as burd Tag would say. But I mean he fits
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: your profile. Brett a veteran who's never won anything.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know if an NBA championship in Colorida Broadcasters
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Association of Water on the same plan. I mean, they
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: are they're they're claws.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Let's let's be all about it. I'm not going to
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: say it. I'm not going to speak it into existence.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: But the answer is no, No, I got the time.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: A buddy just.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Said this to me. Moser. As long as we have
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of minutes here, have you been reading about
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the Well, did you see Elliott Freeman's Friedman's latest podcast?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yes? Uh?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Did you see him mention the avs in Hallibuck?
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Can you can you offer some guidance on them?
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: No?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I but what he didn't say that they that they inquired.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: He didn't say that they that they pursued. He said
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that there are other guys in the league who would
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: think that the AVS would reach out. That's what That's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: what Friedman basically said. Freeze basically said that there are
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: other executives in the league who would think the AVS
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: would reach out, not that, Hey, I have a concrete
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: information the ABS have reached out to the division rival
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Jets about their goalie. I mean, Hellibuck was great in
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the Olympic Games. He's been a great regular season goalie.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: That's the first postseason he's had. He's had some difficulties.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: What I mean, obviously the ABS ripped him apart a
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: What's the matter with your goal dinners now?
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Nothing?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: They won the Jennings combined. Yeah, you can win with
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: your goalies.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Who's your number one goalie most.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I think going into the season is probably Mackenzie I think.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Which is crazy because because Weggie played so well, because
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Weggie was your number one goalie in the postseason.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And yeah, then he didn't play at the end. But yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. I mean, Vick, I don't know.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I guess that's a Jerry Bednar question. My guess would
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: be after getting off to a late start because of
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the injury, not even starting the season on the roster.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: What was the injury?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Lower body? Here we go, lower body. Anyway, after ELB
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: he got off to a late start and played was
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: trying to play ketchup all year long. So I think
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: that if you're talking about a good clean summer for
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: both these guys, I think Blackwood's probably your one, Wedgie's
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: your two. But Scott Wedge will will get plumy of
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: playing time, and they they are completely comfortable with him
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: getting as much time. I mean, if something else happened
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: to Blackwood, they'd be incredibly comfortable with Scott as well.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Here's what I don't get, though, is when people discuss this,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: it's is it just the concept of that there isn't
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: a clear number one in people's heads that makes them
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: weirded out because the numbers are the numbers, and the
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: numbers said that both Mackenzie Blackwood and Scott Wedgewood for
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: a majority of that season were top three or four
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: in both save percentage and goals against each of them.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean, okay, all right, Okay, so happened.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: What he just banged?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: He banged himself on his mic.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: He's he's hurting.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: But is it just the idea that you don't have
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: a a like for sure bona fide number one and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: that weird's people out because the numbers would say that
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: goaltending is not an issue at all. Even when you
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: got to the postseason. I know, maybe it wasn't the
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: same level most as it was in the regular season,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: but you did not lose because your goalies weren't good enough.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: You lost because you could score pretty much.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in that series against Vegas, obviously nobody really had
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: their best their best at all, you know what I mean,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: for a variety of different reasons. But it all goes
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: hand in hand, Brett. You can win with those guys.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, Hella buck is considered an elite. If the
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Avs could have reached He's he's a vez in a winner.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: He's considered elite.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: If the AVS could have, if they had the money
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: to resign Darcy Kemper after they won the least part,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: would they have done it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that they would have.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, Kemp's has gone on He's played pretty decent,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: but he's not a starter anymore, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: but they didn't need him to be a legit number
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: one making nine to ten million a year.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: But my whole thing is, I would love if they
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: got that, if they look, if you combined this team
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: within like a number one, no doubt s Sterkin level
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: or or Vassilevski level goalie, that would be amazing.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, Carolina abuck that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Every year when the postseason rolls around, he's a different
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: guy than he was in the regular season, and I
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: don't know what to do with that.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: How many times we have to see this and Carolina
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: just want a cup without a true number one? Correct?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Did they put Bussy in?
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: So?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: How many hang on a second the yank Freddy and
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: putting Bussy in and Bussy won them the Cup exactly?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So we're focused on this true number one crap, where
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, just play your best
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: hockey at the most important time, and you don't have
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: a true number one?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Absolutely right.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's the answer. I do want to
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: go back to this though, about what we do with
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: other people's money, and it cracks me up. Oh, this
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: guy should take less to go play because he hasn't
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: won anything. Somebody on the textlan brought up a great point.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: You know, we all love parades and rings most and
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you can ask me the same question. I feel free
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: to ask me the same question.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Would you.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Would you give up a Let's say you had to
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: pay for all of your road trips one texture, you
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: had to pay for all your hotels and road trips,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: but the Avs win the Stanley Cup?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Would you do it?
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: It's but these but these are silly because it's not
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: if Moser had two hundred million dollars in his bank
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: accountably a different discussion.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably would. Am I staying with the team?
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Or am I staying in a place of my choice?
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Do I have to stay in the.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Same hotel choice?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: So I could Motel six it if I wanted?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: They won the Cup.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: No asking bezos for one hundred dollars and asking an
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: eighteen year old for one hundred dollars or different things.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: It's not the same, correct, all right?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Then you get a quarter of your salary, half of
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: your salary. H much money does he have in the bank?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: That's I don't have my job.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: How much money as in the bank, don't spend your money.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But that's not But then you your money invested properly.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: You weren't asking the same question.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: You're gonna work for free for the next five years.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Another's win two times? Are you doing me?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: A relative scenario?
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, here, here's it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Most most, you just found out you had an uncle
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: that you never met before who passed away.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: You were in his will.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: You just you just took ten million dollars in cash.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: That's yours now, that's what you have in the bank account.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Wow, Would you.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Be willing to give up half of your salary now
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: for the ABS to win next year?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Ask me that question, would you? Hell? No, stupid
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: as questions.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Ten million dollars.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I'm doing my part. I'm doing my part giving up
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: my money, just like I'm not doing jack.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, but it's also again, even that is like you're stupid.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: You're speaking as a fan.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: And not somebody who's actually going to be forever crown
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: to champion.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: There's no comparison you can make in the real world
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: to this.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Now, if I could be a kicker for the Lions.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Three oh three, five oh four.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Someone says Vic is an idiot at times. I'm an
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: idiot a lot of times, Santiago. I think that's you, Santiago.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Are you a fan of a team? Would you give
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a part of your salary for that team to win
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a championship?
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: But you aren't. You have to be on the team
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: participating champion. You were a fan watching it, Absolutely, you
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: would be a champion.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't be a fan of the team that's a champion.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Stay on him. Uh, what's his name, Santiago? Santiago? Stay
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: on him?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Here's this one's a question, by the way, Santiago is
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a great name.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Question is would you take more money?
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Vic?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: If you knew that Altitude, wouldn't sign Bread because they're
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: paying you more?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: What's that question?
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Asked that again?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Hang on, Vic can get more money, but it's at
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the cost of you. You're out.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Well, if you only knew, Randon, if.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: You only you know what, Yeah, if you only knew,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: if you only knew what we've done for our boy, pay.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: For me paid that's me and his money.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: If you only know.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I just don't like when people play with other people's money.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That's what you were just doing it. You're just everybody's like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: you know, you should he should take less? He should
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: take No.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I never say for the record, should should take less?
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Should has never come out of my mouth ever, not
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: one would you be willing to as an aging.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Veteran that hasn't won you got two hundred MILLI in
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the bank. It's a very simple equation, Vic, very very simple.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a unique situation. It's a it's a
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: case by case basis. But we've seen it happen and
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: it could happen again.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: What you're asking, Vick is the guy that's flipping burgers
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: at McDonald's, just like, would you give away half your
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: salary to the employee of the month. It's like, well, no, no,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: all right, Oh by the way, next, Oh by the way,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: stories around sports in.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: The world we feel like you should be aware of.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: So there's a story going around and I don't know
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: how this hits the ear of ram fan. Here in Colorado,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Trey McBride was on the Busting with the Boys podcast
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: and they're asking him about NIL deals and what he
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: got at CSU. Well here's what he said.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Were you in the NIL world?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: At all.
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: I had it my last year. But at Colorra State,
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: you know, they man come on like I didn't make
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: any money. You know, it was there, but it wasn't there.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Did other teams try and get you?
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: After my second year COVID, my head coach got fired
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: and they went to South Carolina with Will muss Champ
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: and I was gonna follow him there because the staph
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: you committed to the Yeah, so my tight ends coach
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: head coach became the offensive coordinator. So I was like,
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: all right, I'm just gonna go to South Carolina. And
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: that was kind of the year before nil and they
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: were still gonna, you know, give me a little bit,
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: you know, So that was cool. Coming from Coloro State.
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: I was like, any money's you know, gonna be awesome.
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: So and then I ended up staying for some reason
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: and it ended up working out for me. But I
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: always do wonder, like, what would it have been like
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: to go to a big power five of me where
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: the stands were filled, we didn't lose every game, you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: I bet it'd be pretty cool. But it's all good.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I saw that and I was like, that's kind of
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: a little beatdown. Of your alma mater, isn't it a
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: little bit? Yeah, that's how many other schools offered him
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: back in the day.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And I know, you know what, this is probably one
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: of those things. He's talking to two guys. Oh, what's
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: his name, it's Will Taylor Lawan. The one was a
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Michigan guy, Will Compton was a Nebraska guy. Both of
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: those schools got money, both of those get hacked houses.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of this was, like I'm talking
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: to two guys who lived it, and this is sort
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: of like what we would say in the locker room
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: sort of thing. Because I'm not I'm I'm sure the
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: feelings that Trey McBride has towards CSU are not what's
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: reflected in that clip alone. I'm sure he has a
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: lot of love for CSU, but that does kind of
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: suck to hear. Well, here's it's fifty seconds of him,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: just like reportedly.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Here here's who's offered him, obviously, the Rams, Colorado, cal
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: K State Naval Academy, Northern Colorado, and Wyoming.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, boys, how do you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: survive this college landscape when you're a smaller school like
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: that and other teams have more money to offer to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: your best players. How do you survive year to year?
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I have no idea.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, have to re recruit your players.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: They did somehow keep them.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I mean he said, a Fort Morgan guy, you know.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I mean he's a it's.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: A homegrowns A little different now, thoughts out of the bag.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Money's on the table now.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I just I saw that and I was like, oh boy,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: that doesn't feel nice.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: But money is on the table. It's not under the table.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: And when it's on the table and you can see
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that money waving in your face, good luck.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I got no, by the way, for you go for it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: It's reading on CBS Sports a redraft of the twenty
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: twenty four NFL Draft Draft four a couple of years ago.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Who do you think's overall? Number one to the Chicago Bears.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Probably still Caleb?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: That's Drake May is it? Caleb? Number two to Washington three?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels to the.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Patriots makes sense.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Jared Verse to the Cardinals at four, Okay, Joe Alt
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: to the Chargers at five. Blah blah blah, you get
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: all the way down.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, where's bo number?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Twelve to the Denver Broncos.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: So is he still is he still a fourth or
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: is he a fourth quarterback?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Off the board? He is the fourth quarterback off the board? Correct?
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: So he's in front of.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: McCarthy and Pennix in Penix correct.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: So out of the two that we've.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Kind of decided, their careers in the NFL are pretty
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: much done. And sorry, McCarthy, I'm the team that drafted
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: you is already like, no, we aren't doing this again.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonn assume you're out. You feel like a
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Josh Rosen to me, Penix is not going to stay
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: healthy enough to have a career. So at least four
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: different games.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And Pennix may be able to play, but his knees, Vick,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I think if you cut him open,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: sawdust would fall out.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think would you If you had to take
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: bon Nicks out of the four others, where does he
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: stack up to you.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Right now? I think he's probably the guy's a winner, man,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the guy's a winner.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: He was one step away from leading his team to
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl. If you play.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: So one of the guys in that draft did super Bowl?
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, I know. Well, because the other guy was
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: out of the picture. Sure, sure, I got I gotta know.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: By the way, reading this very long piece Seth Wickersham
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: on Sean Payton, Well, is it an opus? What do
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you call a very long piece like this? What is that?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: It's a very long read?
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: What is a long read? Called?
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Much longer than Mark Mosher's willing to invest? I think
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: it's an opus. Yeah, we'll just call it that. There's
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: one paragraph in here. Something that Sean Payton likes to do.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: It's a tradition that he picked up from the late
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Mike Ornstein, a former agent. The week of the AFC
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: title game, in front of his coaches, he took the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Patriots media guide to copy of it. He dunked it
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: in a bucket of cold water, and then took the
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: media guide now it's all bloated and out of shape,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: and put it in the freezer of the refrigerator, sort
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: of like a thing that he does. Why. I don't
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: know why. I don't know why. I guess they've done
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: it before. The Patriots did it. I don't know Saints
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: did it. I don't know.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: That seems it seems like a useless exercise to me.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: No, this is this is stuff you can't get anywhere else. Man,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: this is, this is great? Can I vic perhaps earlier
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I was a little bit, a little bit facetious, but
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: in all.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Honesty, earlier, like thirty seconds ago, when he turned off
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: the camera, took off your headphones and walked down the road,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: That's that's what I meant.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: You're talking to my guy all wrong. It's wrong to.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I guess the point is, man, who I'll probably read it,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: but I how do you get the go ahead? From
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: ESPN to Wright, a twenty eight page dissertation on Sean
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Payton's daily routine.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Because this is great stuff I love reading.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Is I don't need to know you read. I don't
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: need to know that much. I'll read stuff that that matters.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Right now, I'm reading a book called The First No sense,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Right now I'm reading a book called The First Wave.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: This is it's just weird. You're so stupid.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: It's a weird day.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: But it is the dumbest take ever. So why you
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: read this book? It's a bunch of details, right? Why?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I read it very It's fascinating. You got it,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: but yeah, but had a latte?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: You say dumb stuff, But this tops at all.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't I I'm not gonna read. I'm not
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: down with it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: There's just too many deeps.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not I guarantee you ain't nobody getting through that now.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: And even the most art and Broncos fans now they
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: ain't getting through it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: You got one on the way out.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, I read something for you, mosure,
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: so you don't have to read. On the fourth of
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: July weekend, how many hot dogs did you crush?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Not one? But I did make some burgers on my own.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I did that. That was good.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: Well, maybe this would tip the scales a little bit
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: towards the glizzy direction. Pringles have decided to release a
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: limited edition run of Pringles flavored hot dog buns.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: So it's not.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Doesn't taste like a hot dog, it's the bun tastes
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: like Pringles.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Yes, they are hot dog buns that taste like Pringles,
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: and they're doing them in three flavors sour cream and onion,
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: barbecue and honey mustard flavored buns, and they're gonna come in.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: Pringles can still.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: See this is the over indulgence of our food in
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: this country that we just don't we don't need something
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: like that. Nobody asked for it. By the way, I
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: got a message for you, Pringles. I hate to break
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: it to you. All of your chips taste the same.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Your pizza flavored things taste like the barbecue flavored things
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: in the sour They're all the same flavors.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: As long as we're bitching about potato chips, Vick, you
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: wouldn't know anything about this. You don't eat chips.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I hate some funions. The other night you.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Hadions, I did.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: My wife left open the thing of funds and I
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: went to work. Wow.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they don't put obviously, they don't fill the
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: bags like they used to. That's that's a given right.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: It's a joke. It's half air. But barbecue chips nowadays
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: they don't eat and remotely put enough barbecue on the
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: chips anymore.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Butcher, Butcher, wait, are you trying to save a couple
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: of but there's not even barbecue chip don't taste like
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Barbara chip anymore. Kisses me off, don't piss.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Don't think I didn't notice. Your bags are way smaller
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: than they were like three years ago. I notice it,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: and they're still filled with air.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: You're dead right, I need it.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not a I haven't eaten funions in years, but
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: when I attacked that bag the other night, I need
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: an investigation. I think it's a drug. Vic.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I couldn't stop VIC, I really do.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's some sort of drug.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I think once every month and a half to two months,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I go to a gas station, I fill up, I
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: go and get my nickedine pouches, right, and I see
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: that that little gas station bag of funions staring at
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: me in the face. And now I go, yeah, ten
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: minutes till I get home. Sounds like something we're gonna do.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: But what is a fine?
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: I eat it and vic all every time.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I think to myself, could have had about three full
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: bags of these.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Bro listen the big bag, it was gone. Yeah, watching
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the Warl Cup soccer, it was gone. So I was
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: guilty after I ate, is.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: It a fun you just a cheese puff with an
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: onion flavor on it?
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, moj it's a drug. And after I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: consume the whole bag, I felt such a feeling of guilt.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, God, you might as well just turned
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: into mosure here. So then I forced myself into the
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: sauna for an hour.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: It's enriched corn meal vegetable oil in seasonings, is what
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: they say.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Last thing. When I'm at the store and I get
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I get the tortilla chips. I find the one with
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: a guy on the bag, Santiago or something like that.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I like Santiago, okay, But I find the one with
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of chips in it because you can see
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: one salc this or something, and it's gotta it's gotta
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: have a dude on it, right, because they're they're less
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: expensive and you get more chips. I'm going to for
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: the one with the dude.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Enough enough of this half full bag crap and no
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: barbecue flavor. You can kiss my tail. No, I ain't
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: doing it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Most tell the people about what's happening in Wyoming again.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, let me do that for it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: In Chyenne Wild, Okay.
• 44:08
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• 44:11
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• 44:14
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• 44:30
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  Speaker 2: August first, outside Cheyenne for the Rocky Mountain Cigar Festival,
• 44:37
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• 44:49
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