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Reclaiming Halloween_ No Mixture _ The Jesus People Podcast Episode 42 _ Tailah Scroggins · truthunedited

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Speaker 1: We're going to give the devil the biggest headache ever
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Speaker 1: if on his night what he thinks is his night
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Speaker 1: we're gathering we're praying we're reaching the lost we're preaching
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Speaker 1: the gospel that's how that's revival and that's how we
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Speaker 1: take over and push back and push out the darkness.
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Speaker 2: Guys, welcome to the Jesus People podcast. We have the
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Speaker 2: honor of having Taylor Scroggins on today, which has been
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Speaker 2: a long time coming. Taylor, we've tried this, but the
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Speaker 2: Lord's timing is perfect. So thank you for being here.
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Speaker 2: It is.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited
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Speaker 1: to get into today's conversation. It's an honor to be here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the honor is all ours because We've been
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Speaker 2: having so many people coming out of the occult, coming
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Speaker 2: out of being a witch, coming out of darkness on
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Speaker 2: the podcast recently. And I think the Lord's doing something
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Speaker 2: in that, especially around this kind of, you know, Halloween season.
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Speaker 2: And you're kind of a, you're a major thought leader
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Speaker 2: in the church on the occult and on everything to
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Speaker 2: do with witchcraft and all these things. I've seen you
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Speaker 2: on stages. I've seen you at the think events. And
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Speaker 2: so you come at this from a very intellectual standpoint,
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Speaker 2: but also from a very practical level. And so it's
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Speaker 2: great to have you on here because, you know, we
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Speaker 2: launched the podcast with Rion talking about Halloween. And it's
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Speaker 2: so funny. It's like nobody who's come out of the
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Speaker 2: occult or come out of Satanism or witchcraft is like
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Speaker 2: stoked on Halloween. They're all like, no, this is not good.
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Speaker 2: And then people are like, wait, wait, wait. It's like, wait,
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Speaker 2: if all of them are saying it, maybe you should listen.
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Speaker 2: But I want to get into some of the reasons why,
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Speaker 2: some of the backstory, some of the history, and kind
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Speaker 2: of dive in from a theological standpoint, but a really
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Speaker 2: practical level as well about how we guard our families,
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Speaker 2: how we can engage with Halloween, what is appropriate, what's
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Speaker 2: not appropriate. But first, you've got such a fascinating story.
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Speaker 2: Could you just kind of start there? Like, I'd love
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Speaker 2: to hear a little bit about your upbringing and what
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Speaker 2: brought you to the Lord.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I think the theme of this whole talk
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Speaker 1: today for me is don't be in mixture like I was.
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Speaker 1: So my testimony, I wasn't this full blown witch that
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Speaker 1: was raised in witchcraft. I was raised Christian in a
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Speaker 1: Christian home. And from the age of three and four
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Speaker 1: and five years old, I'm watching movies and kid shows
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Speaker 1: and there's magic and there's witchcraft and there's all this
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Speaker 1: supernatural stuff being glorified while I'm in kids church. And
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Speaker 1: this is how I'm growing up. I'm reading horoscopes and
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Speaker 1: magazines at 10, 11 and 12 years old. And this
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Speaker 1: is all priming me, right? And so by the age
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Speaker 1: of around 13, 14, I start really struggling with body image.
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Speaker 1: I develop anorexia. I start going to youth group. I'm
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Speaker 1: going through a lot at this time. And when you're
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Speaker 1: a young teenager, you're starving for identity. You don't know
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Speaker 1: who you are. And so when I was 15, my
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Speaker 1: dad comes home with an astrology book right after I
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Speaker 1: have my first encounter with God. at the age of
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Speaker 1: like right before this happened, I'm 14. God miraculously delivers
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Speaker 1: me from the eating disorder. I feel a spirit leave
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Speaker 1: me and I never starved myself ever again. I never
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Speaker 1: had an issue with the weight thing. And I'm like,
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Speaker 1: Jesus is real. This Jesus I've grown up and I've
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Speaker 1: heard about my whole life. He's real. He loves me.
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Speaker 1: He healed me. And so I'm on fire for God.
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Speaker 1: And then bam, my dad comes home with an astrology book.
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Speaker 1: Someone gave it to him somewhere. I have no idea
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Speaker 1: where it came from. And he started telling me about
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Speaker 1: astrology and, you know, in our Christian household, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: is this allowed? Like where, how is this true?
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Speaker 2: How is this real?
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Speaker 1: He's telling me about it and it is resonating so deeply,
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Speaker 1: so deeply. And I think that's one of the first
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Speaker 1: lies of the occult is it works. That doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: the power is from God, but a psychic can read
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Speaker 1: your mail. That's happened to people before. And astrology can
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Speaker 1: resonate with you, but that doesn't mean it's from the Lord.
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Speaker 1: And so I thought, we thought that because it felt accurate, well,
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Speaker 1: God must have created it. Even though the Bible says,
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Speaker 1: don't do it. I didn't know the word of God.
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Speaker 1: And so I become an astrologer while I'm in church.
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Speaker 1: I start doing yoga, which is worshiping pagan gods and
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Speaker 1: goddesses with your body. There's a mass deception in the West,
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Speaker 1: in America, in the church, that yoga means stretching and
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Speaker 1: yoga means communion and binding and attaching yourself to gods
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Speaker 1: and goddesses that the Bible calls demons. Every pose is
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Speaker 1: a worship pose, inviting a pagan demon into your body.
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Speaker 1: That's the point of yoga. So I start doing yoga.
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Speaker 1: I think I'm exercising. I'm doing astrology.
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Speaker 2: So even if I'm unintentionally doing a pose and my
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Speaker 2: heart is right, say I'm listening to worship music, say
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Speaker 2: like I'm praying while I'm doing these poses, you still
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Speaker 2: believe that that could negatively influence me.
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Speaker 1: That's what I was doing. And I got demons. I
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Speaker 1: had to get deliverance and demons cast out of me.
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Speaker 1: I would pray to God while I was doing yoga.
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Speaker 1: And in our, in my high school, I took this
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Speaker 1: class and the teacher, she would chant in a different
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Speaker 1: language and it felt weird. It felt the energy in
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Speaker 1: the room felt electric, but not like Jesus, not like
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Speaker 1: in church. And so I would pray under my breath
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Speaker 1: and I'd be like, I cancel everything. Jesus protect me.
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Speaker 1: And I still was opening things up because you, When
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Speaker 1: you're opening these doors and you're sitting and you're doing
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Speaker 1: the poses and you are opening yourself up, the devil
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Speaker 1: doesn't care about your intentions. It's like your heart can
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Speaker 1: be in the right place. But when you're participating in
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Speaker 1: a ritual, and we'll talk about this with Halloween, you
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Speaker 1: are opening doors. And sometimes when we open doors, cockroaches
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Speaker 1: can come into the house. Little critters can come into
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Speaker 1: the house. And so that's what happened to me. And
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Speaker 1: I was doing yoga and I started getting more and
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Speaker 1: more oppressed. I was doing astrology. And I was going
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Speaker 1: to church. And so I lived like this. I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: I had one foot in the church and one foot
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Speaker 1: literally in witchcraft. I would read fortunes. I would read horoscopes.
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Speaker 1: And I would take on this identity that God didn't
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Speaker 1: give me. And ultimately, when I graduated high school, I
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Speaker 1: got into college. At that point, I just turned my
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Speaker 1: back on God. You know, I had a moment where
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Speaker 1: I was praying and believing for something in my life.
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Speaker 1: And it didn't happen. And I got mad at God.
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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people can relate to that.
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Speaker 1: And in my immaturity, I was like, well, God doesn't
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Speaker 1: love me. He doesn't have my best interests at heart.
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Speaker 1: I started believing the lie of the devil. And because
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Speaker 1: I already had one foot open to witchcraft, I was
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Speaker 1: doing fortune telling and divinations and channeling spirits and yoga unknowingly, praying.
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Speaker 1: I would even put on worship music sometimes. But because
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Speaker 1: I had opened those doors, it was so easy for
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Speaker 1: the devil to deceive me with those lies and for
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Speaker 1: me to believe them. I didn't have a close, intimate
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Speaker 1: relationship with Jesus. I knew about him. I loved him.
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Speaker 1: I would feel him at church and I loved him
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Speaker 1: and I would tell my friends about him. But there
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Speaker 1: wasn't an intimate, deep relationship where I knew him. Because
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Speaker 1: if I knew him, I would have never believed those
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Speaker 1: lies that he doesn't love you, all of that junk.
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Speaker 1: So at that point, I turn my back on God.
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Speaker 1: I order crystals. I'm turning deeper into astrology. I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to open my third eye. doing transcendental meditations. I'm thinking
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm a clairvoyant. Maybe I have some psychic stuff
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Speaker 1: because I can pick up on the energy in a room.
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Speaker 1: And I had the gift of discernment, but the devil
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Speaker 1: was telling me all these crazy things to get me
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Speaker 1: deeper into the occult, deeper in witchcraft. I start partying
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Speaker 1: and getting drunk every weekend. I start smoking weed. I
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Speaker 1: start like trying to just fill the void with relationships
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Speaker 1: and dating and everything. I'm trying to heal my own
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Speaker 1: heart at this point. And it's just leading me deeper
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Speaker 1: into depression, anxiety. I'm having panic attacks every day. I'm
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Speaker 1: crying for two hours every day because I was so demonized.
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Speaker 1: I knew God's love, even though I was in mixture.
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Speaker 1: And now I had turned my whole entire life away
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Speaker 1: from him. And that was the emptiest I've ever been.
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Speaker 1: So in that low place, God sent someone who she's
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Speaker 1: an amazing woman of God, sent her to my house
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Speaker 1: one day. And she was like, God told me to
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Speaker 1: come over and pray for you today. Today's the day
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Speaker 1: of your freedom. And she prayed these freedom deliverance prayers
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Speaker 1: over me, cast the spirit of death and depression out.
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Speaker 1: I felt those spirits leaving and I started going to
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Speaker 1: church again. I started, you know, just pursuing a relationship
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Speaker 1: with God. And after I started doing that, he started
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Speaker 1: leading me through the Bible. He started giving me books
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Speaker 1: and teachings and sermons talking about all of the questions
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Speaker 1: I had about witchcraft, the occult. Why do these things work?
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Speaker 1: Why are they wrong? I actually started learning this in
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Speaker 1: the Bible and And I got so free and the
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Speaker 1: anxiety gone, the depression gone, everything in my life that
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Speaker 1: was just twisted and broken and upside down, the Lord
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Speaker 1: restored it and redeemed it. And now I'm really passionate
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Speaker 1: about helping get other people out of that. I never
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Speaker 1: want anyone to go through what I went through and
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Speaker 1: God's transformed my life. And I have a husband, I
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Speaker 1: have a daughter, a beautiful family. And our whole family
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Speaker 1: is serving the Lord now. Like even my sisters, my parents, everybody.
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Speaker 1: And he's totally, totally changed my life.
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Speaker 2: Amen. So cool. Thanks for sharing that, Taylor. That's, that's such, it's,
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Speaker 2: it's such a different story than we've heard on a
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Speaker 2: Jesus people podcast. It's so much more relatable than, you know,
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Speaker 2: I was a Satanist or I went full blown into
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Speaker 2: witchcraft where I'm, you know, like doing these satanic rituals
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Speaker 2: every single day. And it's like, No, this is what
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Speaker 2: people find themselves into is the astrology. the tarot cards.
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Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, this is fine. I have these
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Speaker 2: feelings inside myself. Maybe I'm a clairvoyant. Maybe I'm a psychic.
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Speaker 2: I've got these giftings. And it's what I've noticed in
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Speaker 2: all of my conversations with people who have come out
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Speaker 2: of the occult. There's two things that happen. There's your
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Speaker 2: giftings get weaponized because of your woundedness, because you find
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Speaker 2: yourself with wounded situation and the enemy loves wounded people.
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Speaker 2: So does Jesus. But the enemy is already always taking
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Speaker 2: things a quarter turn off. And he's saying, it's a
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Speaker 2: wounded person. I can manipulate that person. Jesus is saying
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Speaker 2: that's a wounded person. I can heal that person. But
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Speaker 2: one of the most clear examples of this is Beelzebub
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Speaker 2: in the Bible, the demon Beelzebub. It's that original language.
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Speaker 2: It means like, King of the flies or something like that,
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Speaker 2: where it's basically like, and what does a fly do?
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Speaker 2: It finds wounds and it lands on wounds. And so
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Speaker 2: that demon finds its way in through woundedness. And that's
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Speaker 2: just a common story I've heard is, is I was
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Speaker 2: in a, I was in a dark spot. I was
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Speaker 2: in a hurting spot. My parents got divorced. Yeah. My
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Speaker 2: boyfriend broke up with me. And so I went into
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Speaker 2: this thing that then eventually ruined my life. And I
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Speaker 2: had to find Jesus again. Um, so now you found
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Speaker 2: yourself in this ministry. You've got a daughter, you've got
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Speaker 2: a husband. What does your ministry look like? I know
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Speaker 2: you've written your book. I'd love to hear more about
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Speaker 2: your book. And then I'd love to get into the practicals.
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, I'd almost like to push back
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Speaker 2: on you a little bit with, you know, I've got
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Speaker 2: so many buddies right now that are pushing back on
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Speaker 2: the anti Halloween stuff. You're like, no, Halloween's fine. And
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Speaker 2: so I almost want to like channel those dudes and
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Speaker 2: be like, you know, like, how can I give the pushback?
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Speaker 2: How can I give the opposite thoughts here? Um, but yeah,
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Speaker 2: what is your, look like and then let's get into
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Speaker 2: some practicals.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Asking the hard questions. I'm excited for it. So
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Speaker 1: just wrote a book. That's the big thing. The Lord
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Speaker 1: put this on my heart. Literally the night I laid
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Speaker 1: down the astrology and the new age and the new
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Speaker 1: age boyfriend I had and everything. I laid everything down
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Speaker 1: and I had a vision of, I didn't know it
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Speaker 1: was a book. This, I just saw this. It was
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Speaker 1: the same picture. And I saw it sitting on a
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Speaker 1: shelf in Target. And I thought, oh, this is an album.
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Speaker 1: The night I left New Age, like, you can't make
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Speaker 1: this stuff up. God is so good. I didn't know
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Speaker 1: what it was. And just a couple months ago in August,
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Speaker 1: the book came out, Breaking Demonic Chains. And it's just
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Speaker 1: about my journey out of the occult, how I was deceived,
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Speaker 1: what the Lord showed me. And then every chapter is
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Speaker 1: step-by-step crystals, you know, Reiki, false healing, astrology, all of
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Speaker 1: the big things that everyone in our culture is into,
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Speaker 1: tarot cards and these things that are trying to creep
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Speaker 1: in and lead people astray. So it breaks it down.
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Speaker 1: And then there's freedom prayers at the end because there's
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Speaker 1: so many people that have dabbled in this and they
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Speaker 1: need to get free. They've opened up doors to things.
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Speaker 1: And like me, I didn't know I had an issue
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Speaker 1: with anger or unforgiveness or bitterness that was tied to
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Speaker 1: me doing yoga. So there's stuff that people are struggling
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Speaker 1: with and they don't know it's because they went to
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Speaker 1: a psychic five years ago. And so that's really the
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Speaker 1: heart behind it. So people can get free And then
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Speaker 1: so Christians can equip themselves and know how to minister
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Speaker 1: to people in the occult. So that's the big thing. And, um,
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Speaker 1: I'm doing podcasts and I get to preach about this
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Speaker 1: and pray for people, um, love doing deliverance ministry and
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Speaker 1: just seeing people be set free because man, when the
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Speaker 1: Lord has done that for you, there is nothing like,
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Speaker 1: you know, seeing him do that for other people. It
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Speaker 1: is the most beautiful thing.
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Speaker 2: Amen. Amen. And yeah, going back to mixture. I've done
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Speaker 2: yoga at church retreats. I've studied Enneagram. We did a whole,
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Speaker 2: we had a whole church retreat about the Enneagram. No.
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Speaker 2: And so I'm telling you, if, you know, 10 years ago,
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Speaker 2: Ryan would have seen me doing podcasts now talking about yoga,
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Speaker 2: talking about the Enneagram, talking about Halloween. I would have
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Speaker 2: been like, you're a freaking loony tune. Like, how did
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Speaker 2: you go so far that direction? But I've seen too
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Speaker 2: much now. I've learned too much now. So, Why has
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Speaker 2: the church adopted practices like the Enneagram? And then can
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Speaker 2: you just kind of blow the lid on that for us?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, I have a whole chapter
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Speaker 1: about the Enneagram. I love this question. So the church is,
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Speaker 1: I think, ignorance is bliss, right? So if we don't
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Speaker 1: know the roots of something, how will we even know?
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Speaker 1: If the root is rotten and demonic, the fruit is
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Speaker 1: rotten and demonic, and it doesn't matter how much you
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Speaker 1: dress it up, Or say, well, we've redeemed it. This
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Speaker 1: is kind of, when we talk about Halloween, is kind
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Speaker 1: of going to talk about that too. There are certain
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Speaker 1: things that are redeemable and there's certain things that aren't.
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Speaker 1: And you need to check the fruit. So with the Enneagram,
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Speaker 1: there is a clip on YouTube of the man. His
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Speaker 1: name is Claudio Naranjo. And he's a Chilean psychologist, spiritualist.
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Speaker 1: He created the nine Enneagram personality types. It's all of them.
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Speaker 1: And he literally is stating, anyone can pull this up,
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Speaker 1: I got the nine personality types through automatic writing, which
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Speaker 1: is channeling spirits, channeling demons. So he said, I channeled
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Speaker 1: this spirit and it began writing through me. And that's
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Speaker 1: how I developed type one, two, three, all the way
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Speaker 1: to nine. So if you're, there's no way to redeem that.
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Speaker 1: This is something that completely came from channeling a demon.
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Speaker 1: So that's what I always tell people. you got to
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Speaker 1: learn the roots, right? And I love studying this stuff.
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Speaker 1: I'm just a nerd. And so these are things that
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Speaker 1: I've learned. Halloween, the Enneagram, it's like, where did this
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Speaker 1: come from? Who created that? And all the people who
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Speaker 1: created the Enneagram were warlocks. They were occultists and they
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Speaker 1: did really, really crazy demonic rituals to develop it.
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Speaker 2: What about Halloween though? Because the roots of Halloween is
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Speaker 2: Christian in nature, right?
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Speaker 1: I've heard people say that. So the roots of Halloween
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Speaker 1: is from Samhain, which is over 2000 years ago, ancient Celts, Ireland, Scotland,
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Speaker 1: Northern Europe, they celebrated this festival that it was, it's
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Speaker 1: their new year. So at, so the year was divided
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Speaker 1: in two. And so on October 31st to November 1st,
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Speaker 1: that was the end of the year. And then they
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Speaker 1: go into the dark months. And so they believe that
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Speaker 1: the veil between the physical world and the spiritual world
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Speaker 1: was the thinnest on October 31st. And so bonfires, right?
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Speaker 1: They would make these fires as ways to ward off
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Speaker 1: these evil spirits and also to worship the sun god.
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Speaker 1: So they would do... And I don't think there's anything
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Speaker 1: wrong with bonfires, but I'm just saying, like, think about
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Speaker 1: the costumes, the bonfires, the creepy ghosts.
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Speaker 2: The goblins.
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Speaker 1: We're going to paint the whole picture so everyone can
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Speaker 1: see clear. And this is stuff anyone can research and find.
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Speaker 1: They would wear masks and animal skins. They would disguise themselves.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to... they believe that demons were roaming the
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Speaker 1: earth on that night because the veil is thin. So
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Speaker 1: they would wear costumes and disguise themselves so the demons
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Speaker 1: couldn't harass them or torment them. And then their priests
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Speaker 1: would do divination, fortune telling, sacrifice rituals. They would sacrifice
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Speaker 1: animals and even humans sometimes to appease these gods. And
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Speaker 1: so from the beginning, this celebration of Samhain, you have
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Speaker 1: this pagan festival around death, divination, and and demonic sacrifices
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Speaker 1: and altars. So what happened when the church started spreading,
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Speaker 1: they tried to redeem this holiday. And so they said, well,
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Speaker 1: we're going to replace it with All Saints Day. We're
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Speaker 1: going to just honor the saints and the Christian martyrs
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Speaker 1: and all of these wonderful people. And that became All
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Speaker 1: Hallows Eve, Halloween. So they're trying to replace pagan rituals
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Speaker 1: with a Christian holiday. That's a nice thought. And I
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Speaker 1: don't think there's anything wrong with they wanted to take
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Speaker 1: over and replace it. But nothing about Halloween, at least
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Speaker 1: here in the West, in our culture, I've never seen
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Speaker 1: anybody honoring saints and praying and going to church and
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Speaker 1: doing these wonderful things. I see people dressing up as
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Speaker 1: ghosts and witches and goblins. I look in people's yards
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Speaker 1: and I see demonic, horrific things that children shouldn't even
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Speaker 1: be seeing in their front yards and horror movies. demonic movies.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there is such a celebration of the darkness.
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Speaker 1: And so I think it's important to look at that fruit.
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Speaker 1: So then it became mixture, right? So after the church
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Speaker 1: tried to take over, the people began mixing. So then souling,
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Speaker 1: they would go door to door. They would offer prayers
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Speaker 1: to the dead for soul cake. So that evolved into trick-or-treating.
18:37
Speaker 1: Why are we praying for dead people? That's not even biblical.
18:40
Speaker 1: When people pass away, they're on into eternity. So number one,
18:44
Speaker 1: that's not even biblical. Why are we praying for the dead?
18:48
Speaker 1: Going door to door, doing these weird mixture things, superstition
18:52
Speaker 1: and stories about witches and demons grew stronger. And so
18:56
Speaker 1: now we're getting into the time of mixture. And so
18:59
Speaker 1: then even like jack-o'-lantern, the jack-o'-lantern is when I was,
19:05
Speaker 1: I was actually reading up on the history of that.
19:07
Speaker 1: And that was a spirit. That was a, they believe
19:10
Speaker 1: that there was a man who was this evil man,
19:13
Speaker 1: and he made a deal with the devil. And, you know,
19:16
Speaker 1: he didn't want the devil to take his soul. And
19:18
Speaker 1: so when he died, he didn't go to heaven because
19:20
Speaker 1: he was an evil man. But the devil didn't take
19:22
Speaker 1: his soul because he made a deal with him. And
19:24
Speaker 1: so the devil cursed Jack, who became the jack-o'-lantern, to
19:29
Speaker 1: be a spirit that roams the earth. And so people
19:31
Speaker 1: would carve pumpkins. And put demon faces onto them and
19:37
Speaker 1: put lights inside to represent like the souls of demons
19:40
Speaker 1: and spirits and the deceased and put it on their porches.
19:44
Speaker 1: And so this jack-o'-lantern is a is a roaming demon
19:48
Speaker 1: from this folklore and this story. And we think it's cute.
19:51
Speaker 1: We don't know the background behind it. And the thing
19:53
Speaker 1: about rituals.
19:55
Speaker 2: Okay.
19:56
Speaker 1: When I was reading up on all this, I'm like,
19:58
Speaker 1: if I take my American lens off and I, and
20:03
Speaker 1: I pretend like I'm looking at this from another culture. Yeah.
20:06
Speaker 1: Because we're so desensitized. And I, we are dressing up
20:10
Speaker 1: like demons. We believe that there's spirits roaming around. We're
20:14
Speaker 1: carving demonic faces into food offerings and leaving it out.
20:18
Speaker 1: We're putting up lights to guide spirits and demons and
20:20
Speaker 1: we're dressing up like demonic spirits to blend in with them.
20:24
Speaker 1: If I was in another country and I heard that
20:26
Speaker 1: people were doing this, no doubt in my mind, I'd
20:29
Speaker 1: be like, this is pagan. This is wild. No way
20:32
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a part in that and initiate
20:34
Speaker 1: yourself into rituals. When you start leaving food offerings out,
20:38
Speaker 1: And carving things and participating doesn't matter like the yoga.
20:42
Speaker 1: Your heart can be so pure, but you're mixing, you're dabbling.
20:46
Speaker 1: These are the roots. I don't see any kind of
20:51
Speaker 1: way that honoring saints and the church and wonderful people
20:56
Speaker 1: of God has lasted. I see all of the pagan
20:59
Speaker 1: traditions and how they've evolved. And actually, I think the
21:02
Speaker 1: fruit has gotten even worse. Because witches, warlocks, the uptick
21:06
Speaker 1: in the occult in like the 1900s until now. Now
21:09
Speaker 1: we have Satanists doing rituals on purpose on Halloween. We
21:13
Speaker 1: have witches doing things because it's this heightened night. Just like,
21:17
Speaker 1: you know, we celebrate Easter and Christmas. Yeah, you know
21:21
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like people can say, well, those are
21:22
Speaker 1: pagan too. But I see and I celebrate the life
21:26
Speaker 1: of Jesus. When I think about Christmas, I think about
21:28
Speaker 1: Jesus in a manger. When I think about Easter, I
21:30
Speaker 1: think about the resurrection. And some people like to call
21:32
Speaker 1: it Resurrection Sunday. When I look at Halloween, I don't
21:35
Speaker 1: see the same. And so for me, that's where it's
21:39
Speaker 1: very clear that I don't want to be participating in
21:43
Speaker 1: any of this and as an ex-witch, right? And I
21:47
Speaker 1: wouldn't have called myself that, but I was doing the
21:50
Speaker 1: rituals and divination type of stuff and things that I
21:53
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily a Satanist, but I was doing the things
21:57
Speaker 1: that the Bible said are witchcraft and not to do.
22:00
Speaker 1: And I see people dressing up like witches. watching movies
22:04
Speaker 1: about possession and entertaining this. And it breaks my heart
22:09
Speaker 1: because when I was in astrology, when I was doing
22:12
Speaker 1: the fortune readings and all that, it destroyed my life.
22:16
Speaker 1: It left me so empty. And when I had demons,
22:19
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I was so tormented until the Lord
22:21
Speaker 1: set me free. And then I see people playing with
22:23
Speaker 1: this stuff and they like to watch movies about exorcisms
22:27
Speaker 1: and It breaks my heart because I'm like, man, we shouldn't,
22:31
Speaker 1: as Christians, we shouldn't want anything to do with the
22:33
Speaker 1: kingdom of darkness. It should turn us off. We should
22:36
Speaker 1: be disgusted. And I think the best thing to do
22:39
Speaker 1: is to turn it into a night of evangelism. Hand
22:41
Speaker 1: out Bibles, hand out little Jesus, hand out scriptures, stickers.
22:45
Speaker 1: I mean, we can be a light.
22:47
Speaker 2: I want to take a quick break and I want
22:48
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22:54
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22:56
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23:13
Speaker 2: in the persecuted church. And know this, Jesus says that
23:16
Speaker 2: what you've done for the least of these, you've done
23:18
Speaker 2: for him. But also that when we love each other
23:20
Speaker 2: as a body of Christ, the rest of the world
23:23
Speaker 2: will see him. So go check it out. Amen. Yeah,
23:26
Speaker 2: and it's a command. take no part in unfruitful works
23:29
Speaker 2: of darkness, but instead expose them. So what I'm hearing
23:33
Speaker 2: you say, what was the original, um, the original holiday,
23:37
Speaker 2: the occult holiday of Halloween that then hallowed Eve took over?
23:40
Speaker 2: What was that called again? Samhain. So Halloween started as Samhain.
23:46
Speaker 2: The Christians tried to take it over with hallowed Eve.
23:49
Speaker 2: And then there was this weird mixture that got taken place.
23:53
Speaker 2: And now we've gotten so accustomed to it in the
23:55
Speaker 2: West that we are literally carving pumpkins that were used
23:58
Speaker 2: for demon worship and thinking it's cute and thinking there's
24:01
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it. But the same call remains to
24:04
Speaker 2: the Christian, which is take back the darkness. So everyone
24:08
Speaker 2: that's like, oh, no, we can celebrate Halloween. This is fine.
24:11
Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no. Don't celebrate Samhain. Celebrate Hallow's Eve,
24:17
Speaker 2: which was what? Which was to shine the light of
24:20
Speaker 2: the king of the universe, which was to celebrate All
24:22
Speaker 2: Saints Day. So yes, share the gospel on Halloween. So
24:26
Speaker 2: people have been saying like, well, should I celebrate Halloween?
24:29
Speaker 2: Should I not celebrate Halloween? It depends on your definition
24:32
Speaker 2: of Halloween.
24:33
Speaker 1: That's true.
24:34
Speaker 2: You eat by Halloween. You know, I think there needs
24:37
Speaker 2: to be a complete cultural revolution in the West. I
24:40
Speaker 2: think we need to get back to celebrating Hallow's Eve,
24:44
Speaker 2: which is to say we're going to shine the light.
24:46
Speaker 2: We're going to reclaim what the enemy stolen. That's kingdom.
24:49
Speaker 2: But you can't be having a demon out front. You
24:52
Speaker 2: can't be hanging skeletons. and celebrating the dead in your
24:55
Speaker 2: front yard, and then having a little Bible study and
24:58
Speaker 2: calling it good. That's called mixture.
25:01
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't know. If that's not mixture,
25:04
Speaker 1: I don't know what is. And I've never really heard
25:06
Speaker 1: that perspective of let's take it back because the name Halloween,
25:10
Speaker 1: Hallow's Eve, that's just the name. They just tried to
25:13
Speaker 1: replace it. And I think we just get so attached
25:16
Speaker 1: to Halloween equals witches and skeletons and no, You know,
25:20
Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone say it like that. And I
25:22
Speaker 1: think that's fine. I think that's a wonderful thing. We
25:24
Speaker 1: should be pushing back and taking back. And what if
25:27
Speaker 1: we share the gospel on Halloween? What if we take
25:30
Speaker 1: over social media and we preach the gospel and we
25:34
Speaker 1: speak those prayers and we share the light of Jesus
25:36
Speaker 1: and we decorate our houses and we put a cross
25:39
Speaker 1: out front? I mean, there's so many things that we
25:41
Speaker 1: could do. But yeah, as far as participating in, our
25:44
Speaker 1: family doesn't do the jack-o'-lanterns. We don't do the costumes.
25:48
Speaker 1: We don't do, obviously... Halloween parties in the sense of like,
25:52
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? All the stuff honoring the
25:54
Speaker 1: scary things and the demonic things and all of that.
25:57
Speaker 1: We like fall festivals and fall parties and we love
26:01
Speaker 1: pumpkins and all of the good things. It's, it's such
26:03
Speaker 1: a beautiful time of year. Um, but like you said,
26:05
Speaker 1: all of the things that come from Samhain and paganism
26:08
Speaker 1: do not practice them in your home.
26:11
Speaker 2: Right? We've got almost a hundred people coming here on
26:14
Speaker 2: Halloween to worship. We've got worship artists coming in. We're doing, uh,
26:19
Speaker 2: like a full worship set where I'm getting a sermon.
26:22
Speaker 2: I'll have to talk about this in a sermon about
26:25
Speaker 2: reclaiming what the enemy stolen. I think where there's lack
26:28
Speaker 2: of knowledge that people perish. And so I think once
26:31
Speaker 2: you recognize, once you have the humility to come into
26:33
Speaker 2: repentance and be like, we should not be celebrating Samhain Halloween.
26:38
Speaker 2: We should be reclaiming that. And then you can decide
26:41
Speaker 2: what to do about it now. Then you can ask
26:42
Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit, what now should we do about this?
26:44
Speaker 2: My wife was very, very convicted that we need to
26:48
Speaker 2: be worshiping on Halloween. So it turned into this big thing.
26:52
Speaker 2: Now we've got, you know, dozens and dozens of people
26:54
Speaker 2: coming over to worship. And so I would just encourage
26:58
Speaker 2: you listening, pray, ask the Holy Spirit, how can we
27:03
Speaker 2: reclaim this dark holiday? Because the Lord owns 365 days
27:08
Speaker 2: of the year. There's no place for fear. The enemy
27:11
Speaker 2: has no authority over Halloween. However, we should not be
27:15
Speaker 2: celebrating the what was intended to worship the dead. And
27:20
Speaker 2: then the saints tried to reclaim it. And now we've
27:22
Speaker 2: somehow forgotten that we need to have the same effort
27:25
Speaker 2: that they did in creating Hallow's Eve. We need to
27:27
Speaker 2: have that same intentionality towards Halloween and make it a
27:30
Speaker 2: night of worship, make it a night of prayer, make
27:32
Speaker 2: it a night of evangelism. It's the one night a
27:34
Speaker 2: year where people come up to your door, like in
27:38
Speaker 2: people who are hungry and desperate for the gospel and
27:42
Speaker 2: So I think there's, it's, it's, we cannot throw the
27:45
Speaker 2: baby out with the bathwater here. We can't just be like, oh,
27:47
Speaker 2: it's a dark holiday. So we're going to run from it.
27:51
Speaker 2: Jesus never told us to completely run from the darkness.
27:55
Speaker 2: He said to shine your light, to take your, the
27:57
Speaker 2: basket off your lamp and let it shine. So we
28:00
Speaker 2: have a night of the year where people are showing
28:01
Speaker 2: up to our houses. Let's go back to Hallow's Eve.
28:04
Speaker 2: Let's reject the sound demonic festival. And let's get back
28:09
Speaker 2: to what the saints intended with Hallow's Eve, which is,
28:11
Speaker 2: Let's shine the light on a dark holiday. And so, yes,
28:14
Speaker 2: rip the cobwebs off, rip the demon and the skeletons
28:19
Speaker 2: off of your door and put a big cross up
28:22
Speaker 2: there and then share the gospel of people. Give them
28:25
Speaker 2: the biggest candy in the neighborhood. Bless them. And then,
28:30
Speaker 2: you know, share Jesus with them. Ask how you can
28:32
Speaker 2: pray for them. Hand them a little, you know, go
28:34
Speaker 2: old school with it. Like, you know, 70s, hand them
28:37
Speaker 2: a track that talks about Jesus. There's ways that we
28:40
Speaker 2: can engage. with this day and recognize that this is
28:43
Speaker 2: the day that the Lord has made. We will rejoice
28:45
Speaker 2: and be glad in it. And we're not going to
28:46
Speaker 2: operate in fear because Halloween, October 31st belongs to Jesus.
28:51
Speaker 2: It doesn't belong. And I think what if the church
28:54
Speaker 2: just caught wind of that? What if there was a move?
28:57
Speaker 2: Like you said on social media, what if everyone listened
29:00
Speaker 2: to this, decide to share their testimony on October 30th?
29:04
Speaker 2: I think let's do it. Why not? Let's start sharing
29:07
Speaker 2: Jesus on Halloween. And let's tear down these old pagan
29:11
Speaker 2: structures and, and put up a big fat cross where
29:15
Speaker 2: there was a, you know, a, a, a, a pumpkin,
29:19
Speaker 2: you know, or a, a jack-o'-lantern, you know, like, and
29:22
Speaker 2: you can only do that once you recognize that, oh,
29:25
Speaker 2: a jack-o'-lantern is, is fundamentally demonic. Like people might laugh
29:28
Speaker 2: at that. Well, it's like, well, look at the roots.
29:30
Speaker 2: Like you said, when you look at the, the root,
29:32
Speaker 2: you can understand the fruit. And it's just so obvious.
29:35
Speaker 2: Like my, my, uh, My son yesterday, we're walking through
29:39
Speaker 2: the neighborhood and he just looks at me, goes, daddy,
29:41
Speaker 2: that's scary. And I'm like, I know, but we've become
29:44
Speaker 2: so desensitized to it. And just like you said, if
29:48
Speaker 2: you go to a different culture and you look at like,
29:50
Speaker 2: I don't know, like in Mexico, the day of the dead,
29:52
Speaker 2: you're like, that's kind of weird, but that's because you
29:55
Speaker 2: have some distance to see it clearly.
29:57
Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah.
29:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.
29:58
Speaker 1: I'm, I am part Mexican and our family has no
30:02
Speaker 1: part in that. But I love what your wife said
30:05
Speaker 1: that this needs to be a night of worship because
30:07
Speaker 1: this is the night of year where witches and warlocks
30:11
Speaker 1: people are gathering and they're intentionally doing demonic rituals. Worship
30:15
Speaker 1: and prayer is our weapon. So if we are gathering,
30:18
Speaker 1: we're pushing back, we're going to give the devil the
30:21
Speaker 1: biggest headache ever. If on His night, what he thinks
30:24
Speaker 1: is his night, we're gathering, we're praying, we're reaching the lost,
30:28
Speaker 1: we're preaching the gospel. That's how, that's revival. And that's
30:31
Speaker 1: how we take over and push back and push out
30:34
Speaker 1: the darkness.
30:37
Speaker 2: Totally. And I think one thing that Rion, the former
30:39
Speaker 2: head of the church of Satan said is, is the
30:42
Speaker 2: enemy first attacks with fear. First, he's going to attack
30:46
Speaker 2: you with fear. And then second, he's going to get
30:48
Speaker 2: you to question your authority. So if you're scared, if
30:52
Speaker 2: you think, oh, this is the devil's night and I'm
30:54
Speaker 2: just going to like run from this. First of all,
30:56
Speaker 2: you're falling right into his playbook. Like you've been given
30:59
Speaker 2: the same spirit that rose Jesus from the dead. You've
31:01
Speaker 2: been given the same spirit to trample the serpent just
31:04
Speaker 2: like Christ did. And so the call to the Christian
31:09
Speaker 2: is not to stay in their little holy huddles in
31:11
Speaker 2: the church, but it's to engage with the culture. It's
31:13
Speaker 2: to it's to go out and to shine that light
31:16
Speaker 2: in dark in dark spaces in dark places and And
31:19
Speaker 2: it's like he's teeing us up. The Lord's teeing us
31:21
Speaker 2: up with Halloween and saying, here, what are you going
31:23
Speaker 2: to do about it? And I think that there first
31:27
Speaker 2: had to be that, you know, even with, you know,
31:29
Speaker 2: force posting about this as well. It seems like there's
31:31
Speaker 2: a lot more people that have been posting about Halloween
31:34
Speaker 2: this year and waking up to it. That's step one,
31:37
Speaker 2: because where there's not lack of knowledge, people perish. So
31:39
Speaker 2: now the world's waking up. Step two, implement things, implement
31:44
Speaker 2: rhythms in your family, implement rhythms in your neighborhoods. Where
31:47
Speaker 2: you say, I am taking back October 31st for the
31:51
Speaker 2: kingdom of God. So here's what we're doing. We're going to,
31:54
Speaker 2: I don't know, we're going to fast all day. We're
31:56
Speaker 2: going to have a, we're going to do communion as
31:58
Speaker 2: a family. We're going to do a devotional day. We're
32:01
Speaker 2: going to invite people over for a Bible study. We're
32:03
Speaker 2: going to have a worship night. Whatever it might be,
32:05
Speaker 2: spend time with the Holy Spirit and think about it.
32:07
Speaker 2: And then there's no room for fear. Perfect love has
32:10
Speaker 2: cast out fear. The devil doesn't know on October 31st.
32:14
Speaker 2: But we have an opportunity today. to step into the
32:17
Speaker 2: darkness and to shine the light. And I think that that's,
32:21
Speaker 2: that's not just like a theory. That's very practical.
32:24
Speaker 1: Amen.
32:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
32:25
Speaker 1: It is very practical. You know, like you said, the
32:27
Speaker 1: Halloween decorations, obviously taking out anything from your house that
32:31
Speaker 1: is demonic, that is glorifying the darkness. Like we were
32:35
Speaker 1: talking about, get rid of the pumpkin carving and the jack-o'-lanterns. Look,
32:39
Speaker 1: why don't you paint a pumpkin? There's nothing from Samhain
32:42
Speaker 1: about painting a pumpkin. There's, you can do arts, you
32:44
Speaker 1: can do crafts. You can do hayrides. There's so many
32:47
Speaker 1: fun things about fall that we can do with our
32:49
Speaker 1: families that are not tied to pagan worship. Yeah.
32:53
Speaker 2: And I think so many people in our culture, we
32:55
Speaker 2: don't have a good lens of what these rituals look like.
33:04
Speaker 2: For most of us, we've never participated in a demonic
33:08
Speaker 2: ritual before.
33:08
Speaker 1: Right.
33:09
Speaker 2: But if you saw something in a demonic ritual- And
33:13
Speaker 2: you realize that, oh, I do this every year on
33:16
Speaker 2: October 31st. Wouldn't you stop doing that thing? You know,
33:19
Speaker 2: not like, and people that are like, well, you know,
33:22
Speaker 2: that thing doesn't have power over me. So I'm going
33:24
Speaker 2: to continue to do it. It's like, wait, wait, no, no.
33:26
Speaker 2: What is a ritual? Maybe speak to that a little
33:28
Speaker 2: bit more. Like what is a ritual and why is
33:30
Speaker 2: it so important that we don't decorate our homes and
33:33
Speaker 2: carve the pumpkins during Halloween?
33:35
Speaker 1: Yeah. A ritual is any kind of practice really where
33:40
Speaker 1: you are trying to invoke some sort of spiritual outcome.
33:46
Speaker 1: So if you think about, well, why do people pray
33:49
Speaker 1: to the crystals and they wear the crystals? Well, they're
33:52
Speaker 1: trying to manipulate. They're trying to do something. So they're
33:55
Speaker 1: believing that this object has power. And the reason that
34:00
Speaker 1: they would carve these jack-o'-lanterns and they would leave food
34:03
Speaker 1: offerings out Number one, that's a ritual. You're leaving an
34:08
Speaker 1: offering out for a spirit. We don't do that in Christianity.
34:11
Speaker 1: So that is a pagan ritual in itself. You're leaving
34:13
Speaker 1: an offering. So that's where they would hand out the
34:16
Speaker 1: cakes and all of that stuff. And then carving these turnips,
34:20
Speaker 1: carving these pumpkins, these demonic faces, they're believing that by
34:24
Speaker 1: engaging at this, they will protect them. So it's really
34:27
Speaker 1: like a protection ritual if you think about it. They're
34:30
Speaker 1: carving these demon faces, lighting candles to represent spirits and souls,
34:34
Speaker 1: And they're putting it out to protect their home.
34:37
Speaker 2: Okay.
34:38
Speaker 1: And so it doesn't really matter if you think it's
34:40
Speaker 1: fun or if it's cute. You're still doing this ritual
34:43
Speaker 1: that on this night has been done for thousands of
34:45
Speaker 1: years as a protection ritual and spell. So I think
34:48
Speaker 1: that's really why it's like, man, I don't want to
34:50
Speaker 1: do that. And I loved carving pumpkins growing up. I
34:53
Speaker 1: thought it was so fun. But when I learned about it,
34:55
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, I don't want anything to
34:56
Speaker 1: do with that.
34:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And what I heard you say earlier is
35:01
Speaker 2: your intention doesn't really matter as much because if you're
35:04
Speaker 2: participating in the ritual, which Rion talked about this, how
35:07
Speaker 2: your neighborhood essentially becomes a ritual that you either choose
35:10
Speaker 2: to participate in or not.
35:13
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, by what we've talked about and hearing that,
35:18
Speaker 1: I mean, it's two plus two equals four. I mean,
35:21
Speaker 1: how can it not be, right? If we're putting up
35:23
Speaker 1: all this demonic stuff everywhere and we're engaging in it
35:25
Speaker 1: and we're partaking, that is one big ritual.
35:27
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
35:28
Speaker 1: Right.
35:29
Speaker 2: Right. Let's talk about things that you should get out
35:34
Speaker 2: of your home. I've heard you talk about this before.
35:39
Speaker 2: It's not just, you know, on Halloween, but there are
35:41
Speaker 2: certain things that can invite demons into your home. How
35:44
Speaker 2: do we as parents, and I guess even beyond just
35:48
Speaker 2: being a parent, even if you're, you know, in college,
35:51
Speaker 2: how do you protect your dorm room? How do you
35:52
Speaker 2: protect your house? What are things that you need to
35:55
Speaker 2: purge from your home?
35:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Halloween decorations that are the tombstones, the witches,
36:02
Speaker 1: the demons. I mean, if you're putting that all over
36:05
Speaker 1: your house, you are telling the spirit of witchcraft or
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Speaker 1: death or whatever, you are welcome here. This is territory
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Speaker 1: for you. Like, we're honoring you here. But other than that, like,
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Speaker 1: obviously anything involving the occult. And so things like tarot cards,
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Speaker 1: oracle decks, all of these things, artwork with... you know,
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Speaker 1: occultic things on it, anything to do with astrology, even
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Speaker 1: things like horror movies and horror books. I even go
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Speaker 1: as far as to tell people, if you have books
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Speaker 1: about vampires and werewolves and occultic things and scary stories,
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Speaker 1: get those out of your house. I promise you it
36:43
Speaker 1: might seem crazy or weird, but I promise you if
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Speaker 1: you throw those things away, you will feel the atmosphere
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Speaker 1: of your house get lighter. I have done this in
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Speaker 1: my life. I've done it with my friends and helped
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Speaker 1: them clean stuff out of their homes. You will notice
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Speaker 1: a difference. Anything with numerologies, any kind of altars and
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Speaker 1: statues to any, like all of these pagan gods or goddesses,
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Speaker 1: even little Buddha, little Buddha things that maybe a souvenir
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Speaker 1: somebody brought you from another country. Those things, oh my goodness,
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Speaker 1: those things from Mexico and the Caribbean, those little animals
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Speaker 1: that they paint and they sell, you know what I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about? They're like, little turtles or little alligators and
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Speaker 1: they paint them, those are spirit guides. Those are literally
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Speaker 1: demonic spirits that they paint and they believe that they
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Speaker 1: protect you. It's demons. There are little things like this
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Speaker 1: that we might have in our house and we have
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Speaker 1: no idea where they come from. Anything to do with chakras,
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Speaker 1: Chinese zodiacs, crystals. I've got a whole list of this
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Speaker 1: in my book, so it just is helping me. I'm
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Speaker 1: seeing all this stuff. Evil eye. I see this one
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Speaker 1: so much. The little blue eyeball. The little blue dot.
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Speaker 1: That is witchcraft. You're believing a little charm is going
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Speaker 1: to protect you. And that's demonic. So get those out
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Speaker 1: of your house. Good luck charms. Anything to do with Freemasonry.
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Speaker 1: Obviously drugs. Any drugs. That stuff invites spirits into your home.
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Speaker 1: New age demonic music. Music that is just glorifying the darkness.
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Speaker 1: If you have CDs or records or just in your phone.
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Speaker 1: Clean that stuff out. um, clean it out. Reiki, any
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Speaker 1: Reiki stones, Reiki healing, Santeria. Um, yeah, a lot of
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Speaker 1: those things, tapestries, a lot of tapestries have Zodiac wheels
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Speaker 1: on it and demonic, um, Hamsa hands and these things
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Speaker 1: on it. Those are pagan ritualistic, um, signs and they're
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Speaker 1: on a lot of different tapestries. So if you have tapestries,
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Speaker 1: look into what's on them. Um, obviously, you know, things
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Speaker 1: that have to do with yoga as well. And I
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Speaker 1: think those are really the big things. And then not
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Speaker 1: just throwing those things away, but then praying over your
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Speaker 1: home and anointing your home. Get the oil and pray
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Speaker 1: over the doorposts, the four corners of your property. your windows, wherever,
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Speaker 1: your bed, your computer, like just pray and break off
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Speaker 1: anything demonic because people are coming and going and things
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Speaker 1: are coming through the TV screens, the computer screens. Just
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Speaker 1: pray and break off any demonic, unclean thing and say,
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Speaker 1: this house belongs to the Lord. Holy Spirit, come and
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Speaker 1: fill my home. Come and fill my family. Set us apart.
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Speaker 1: And you will notice the entire atmosphere shift and change
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Speaker 1: when you do this.
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Speaker 2: Amen. Amen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Do with, um, with your, do you have a daughter
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Speaker 2: or son?
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Speaker 1: I have a daughter. Daughter. Okay.
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Speaker 2: So what do you do? Uh, do you have any
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Speaker 2: sort of, um, prayer that you pray over her at night?
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Speaker 2: How do you, how do you protect her? How do
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Speaker 2: you protect your home?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love to pray over her, you know, wherever,
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Speaker 1: whatever the Lord is leading, but I pray for her protection.
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Speaker 1: I plead the blood of Jesus, plead the blood of
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Speaker 1: Jesus over your children, over your home, over your pets,
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Speaker 1: over your mayor, over everything. Just plead the blood of
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Speaker 1: the lamb. His blood is, it protects us. It purifies us.
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Speaker 1: It keeps us clean and safe. And so we just,
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Speaker 1: we plead the blood of Jesus.
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Speaker 2: Always.
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Speaker 1: I pray for protection. I asked that the Lord would
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Speaker 1: just send his angels to around my baby, around my
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Speaker 1: husband when he goes to work, around our home, around
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Speaker 1: when we're coming and when we're going. We read Psalm 91.
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Speaker 1: That's a big thing. When we feel like there's an
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Speaker 1: attack coming, we read Psalm 91 over everybody in the family,
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Speaker 1: over the home and believe it. We can rest and
40:32
Speaker 1: sleep easy. And when you feel the attacks coming on,
40:34
Speaker 1: we just rebuke the devil and taking communion Um, especially too,
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Speaker 1: when you feel the attacks coming, take communion with your
40:41
Speaker 1: family and that will shift things to the other night
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Speaker 1: I got attacked, um, a demonic attack in my sleep
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Speaker 1: and my neck was hurting really bad. And I did
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Speaker 1: all those things and I took communion and my neck
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Speaker 1: was healed. So, I mean, there's power in the blood.
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Speaker 2: Amen. Amen. Well, this has been so good because I
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Speaker 2: think this has given some practical, uh, resources and some ideas. Um,
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Speaker 2: I would just encourage anyone listening right now, man, this
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Speaker 2: is an opportunity to one, change the culture of your family,
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Speaker 2: to create a new culture of worship, of prayer, of evangelism.
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Speaker 2: And then number three, have an opportunity to see souls
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Speaker 2: get saved. There are so many people in your neighborhood
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Speaker 2: that are desperate for the love of Jesus. And I
41:29
Speaker 2: think we've gotten so safe in our culture to share
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Speaker 2: our faith. But the reality is, is, Nobody's offended by
41:35
Speaker 2: your story. So the ability to share your story, the
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Speaker 2: ability to share what Jesus has done for you, the
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Speaker 2: ability to, like I said, shine that light on such
41:42
Speaker 2: a dark day and use Halloween to kick the devil
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Speaker 2: in the teeth and proclaim the name of Jesus far
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Speaker 2: and wide. And the other thing Rion said is, is
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Speaker 2: just pray when you're in your neighborhood and you drive
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Speaker 2: by Halloween decorations, pray for that family, pray for their protection,
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Speaker 2: rebuke it in the Pray for the blood of Jesus
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Speaker 2: and his spirit to cover your neighborhood and know that
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Speaker 2: we have that authority to be able to call upon
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Speaker 2: the Lord for these things. We are his children and
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Speaker 2: he loves to give good gifts to his children. Anything else, Taylor,
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Speaker 2: before we wrap up that you would say, we want to,
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Speaker 2: we're going to put a link for your book in
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Speaker 2: the show notes. Thank you. Your book, Breaking Demonic Chains, right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Tell us a little bit more about that. And
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Speaker 2: then any, anything else that you would kind of share
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Speaker 2: as it pertains to Halloween? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to learn more about this
42:33
Speaker 1: and how to expose the darkness and the roots of things,
42:37
Speaker 1: I mean, that's something that every chapter we talk about
42:40
Speaker 1: the roots, the roots of the Enneagram, the roots of astrology,
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Speaker 1: so we can know and do better. And so, yeah,
42:46
Speaker 1: if you want to learn more, you like this episode,
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Speaker 1: I think the book will bless you. But yeah, I
42:51
Speaker 1: just I just think that this is such an important
42:54
Speaker 1: conversation and I'm really excited that the culture and mainstream
42:59
Speaker 1: Christianity is finally talking about this because we've been saying
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Speaker 1: this for so long. But the fact that it's getting
43:06
Speaker 1: into the mainstream is so exciting because now we can
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Speaker 1: actually take it back. If enough Christians get on board,
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Speaker 1: we can totally take over. And I just hear the
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Speaker 1: Lord saying, this is revival. This is what revival looks like.
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Speaker 1: When we start to take these things back for the
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Speaker 1: kingdom of God and change the world and change the culture.
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Speaker 1: And so thank you for having me and talking about this, Ryan,
43:29
Speaker 1: because now we're actually, we're making a difference when we
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Speaker 1: choose to talk about these things and implement them. Amazing.
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Speaker 2: Taylor, thanks for being on. God bless you. We'll put
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Speaker 2: a link for your book in the show notes. Any
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Speaker 2: specific ways we can be praying for you and your family?
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Speaker 1: Protection. This time of year, we're exposing a lot of
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Speaker 1: witchcraft and darkness. And so if y'all could just pray
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Speaker 1: that the Lord would just continue to have his arms
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Speaker 1: surrounding us and protecting us because we're kicking the devil
43:57
Speaker 1: in the teeth and he doesn't like it. And so
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Speaker 1: that would be awesome. Thank you for asking.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. Let me pray for you now. And
44:03
Speaker 2: then guys, as you're listening, please pray for Taylor as well.
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Speaker 2: And then Taylor, could you close us in prayer? Could
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Speaker 2: you pray for the same thing for the listener, just
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Speaker 2: spiritual protection over them?
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Speaker 1: I'd love to.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Lord, we're just so thankful for Taylor. Thank you
44:15
Speaker 2: for her ministry. Thank you for her life. We just
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Speaker 2: pray the blood of Jesus over her children, over her husband,
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Speaker 2: over her home. We just thank you for the ministry
44:23
Speaker 2: that she has, Lord. We ask that you continue to
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Speaker 2: advance the kingdom forcefully through her. God, just surround her
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Speaker 2: home with your angels. Give her more wisdom. Give her
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Speaker 2: more opportunities. Give her more podcasts to go on, stages
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Speaker 2: to preach on, people to expose the works of the
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Speaker 2: enemy to you. And not just to focus on the darkness,
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Speaker 2: but to shine the light. And so thank you that
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Speaker 2: she is such a light in our culture in Jesus name.
44:51
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord, for every
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Speaker 1: person watching. God, thank you for Ryan. Thank you for
44:56
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you for raising it up in an
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Speaker 1: hour where we need to, we need to be talking
45:01
Speaker 1: about these things. Thank you that Lord you've chosen him
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Speaker 1: to help shift and change the culture. God, you don't
45:07
Speaker 1: take that lightly, Lord. And I thank you that you
45:10
Speaker 1: were just so proud of, of Him and His heart
45:13
Speaker 1: for this, Father. I pray for every person watching right now, Lord.
45:16
Speaker 1: I ask that You would bless them in the name
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Speaker 1: of Jesus. If there's any areas in their life where
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Speaker 1: they are in pain and where the enemy has been
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Speaker 1: trying to pursue them or harm them, that those attacks
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Speaker 1: would stop now in the name of Jesus, that those
45:30
Speaker 1: wounds would be healed, that all open doors to darkness
45:34
Speaker 1: would be shut, Father God. And we pray specifically against
45:37
Speaker 1: a spirit of guilt or shame or condemnation or fear
45:40
Speaker 1: because they said, oh, I've been doing these things and
45:43
Speaker 1: they feel so bad. No, there's no condemnation for those
45:45
Speaker 1: who are in Christ Jesus. And now we know better.
45:48
Speaker 1: Thank you, God, for exposing these things so that we
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Speaker 1: can make the changes so we can set our families
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Speaker 1: free and so that we can be a light. God,
45:56
Speaker 1: that's your heart. And so we pray against any fear,
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Speaker 1: guilt or shame, Lord. And I just pray that you
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Speaker 1: would protect every person watching right now that we just
46:05
Speaker 1: plead the blood of Jesus over them, over their families,
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Speaker 1: over their home, their children, their marriages, Father God, that
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Speaker 1: you would just strengthen them in every way. And Holy Spirit,
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Speaker 1: I ask that you would even begin to speak to
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Speaker 1: them right now and show them things that you want
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Speaker 1: them to change about what they do on October 31st.
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Speaker 1: What do you want them to do tonight, God? What
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Speaker 1: word do you have for them? What are some of
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Speaker 1: the objects that they need to get rid of in
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Speaker 1: their home? You know, God, you see everything and you
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Speaker 1: search our hearts. And so I just I just sense
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Speaker 1: the Lord saying, let's take this introspective now and let's
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Speaker 1: just listen and let's wait and let's ask him, Lord,
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Speaker 1: what do you want me to do on this day?
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Speaker 1: I give it to you. I leave my traditions and
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Speaker 1: the things that I love. I lay them at the cross.
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Speaker 1: No cultural thing is more important than honoring you, Jesus.
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Speaker 1: And so whatever you tell me to do on this day, Lord,
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Speaker 1: I will do it in Jesus name. Amen. Amen.
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Speaker 2: Taylor, thank you so much for being with us. Guys,
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Speaker 2: God bless you. Thanks for being with the Jesus people today.
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Speaker 2: We will see you guys next week.