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Coach Aaron Roussell on Maggie Doogan’s 35, A-10 Tournament Prep & Richmond’s Rise | Spiders Sound Off · Spiders Sound Off

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  Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Spider Sound
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  Off. This is Tom.
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  And this is Porter. We are back at Henrico Studios
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  together. We have a a interview we'll be
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  doing in a bit with Coach Roussell from.
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  Excited for Coach Roussell? From the women's team, so
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  that'll be a great interview. 25 and six women's team.
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  You know, had a nice win at Saint Joe's.
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  The men did not have a nice win in Chicago against Loyola.
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  We're not going to spend too much time on that because.
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  Loyola got their seventh win of the season.
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  Yes, and their third in the Atlantic 10.
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  All as good as 7. Yes.
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  So anyway, we don't want to get all upset and mad and then have
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  to jump right to talking to coach Russell and be all
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  exciting. There was a big win last night
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  though. Can we talk about that for a?
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  Second there was. Yeah, there was a big win last.
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  So Tom was up in Northern Virginia for a regional acapella
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  competition and. Not performing in it.
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  No, not in it, not in it. By the way, Tom's never seen
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  Pitch Perfect too. His daughter sings acapella for
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  the JMU Purple Rain Squad, and he's never seen pitch perfect
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  two or pitch perfect one for that.
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  Matter. No, I have not.
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  It's that's just what what's up with?
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  That, but they were at the quarterfinals.
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  This is, well, like real life pitch perfect.
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  They're up at Oakton High School in Vienna and they were the
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  Champs. Gold medal.
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  I think there are 9 total gold Capella groups there, Ellie and
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  her friend Jalen. They also did the choreography
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  for their show and they won best choreography so they got a nice.
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  I'm wondering if we could get the Jamie Purple Rain squad to
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  sing the spider sound off interest song for us so that
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  could become our new well. I, I don't know if we can get
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  them to do it, but I can get AI to do it.
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  So maybe we'll wrap this episode up with a little acapella
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  version of a spider song. Well, Congrats to your daughter,
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  Ellie. That's fantastic.
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  Yeah, they go to the semi finals in Delaware in a few weeks and
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  you win that and then you go to New York's.
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  New York's in it for the for the big finals.
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  But I mean, they're I think they're just super excited right
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  now. So that was fun.
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  Hashtag winning. Yeah, that's right, you know.
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  But anyway, we got. Hopefully they don't come across
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  DAS Sound Machine. I don't know who that is.
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  Well, you should know who DAS Sound Machine is.
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  I guarantee our listeners know who DAS Sound Machine is.
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  OK, Porter likes Acapella way too much.
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  OK, so we'll have coach on in a second if you want to hear a
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  whole lot about the men's team. That won't happen today.
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  We're we're still sad, but hey, on Thursday, the next time we
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  record, we'll have a little more on the women's tournament and
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  we'll also have to focus on the men at some point.
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  But until then, we've got Coach Roussell.
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  Hope you enjoy that interview and we will catch you next time.
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  Well, good morning and welcome to Coach Aaron Roussell from the
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  Richmond Spiders women's team. Coach, congratulations on the
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  big win against Saint Joe's yesterday.
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  Thank you. Appreciate it.
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  As we were just saying it's it's March now.
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  So any win is a big win and obviously good to get back on
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  track a little bit this past week and and head into head of
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  the big tournament here this weekend with hopefully some
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  momentum. You know, I think coach, this
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  might be a big deal for you because I think you're the only
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  two time interviewee on Spider. Sound off so far in this year,
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  So what an honor. Look at that, look at that.
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  We had so much fun that first time.
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  And 1st off, obviously really appreciate what you guys are
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  doing to kind of get get our program out there, get Richmond
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  out there. It it always seems that I'm able
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  to listen to you guys are having a lot of fun with it.
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  So hopefully you're enjoying it. But it is a service to to our
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  program and to rich and spiders everywhere.
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  So thank you. Thank you, coach.
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  We're we're enjoying doing it and we're meeting some fun
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  people along the way. And I mean, obviously when
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  you're 25 and 6 and 37 in the net and this is back-to-back
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  years, you've put together an elite performance, it makes it a
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  lot easier to talk about things day in and day out.
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  So we appreciate you and, and all you're doing for Richmond
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  Spider basketball question for you.
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  So you know, you're, you're in Philadelphia yesterday,
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  obviously back in the RVA today. This is Sunday.
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  We're recording releasing on Monday.
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  How does that, how does the travel work for a game like
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  that? Are you, do you fly back
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  immediately after the game? Do you give a couple hours for
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  the kids? I mean, how's that work?
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  Yeah. Well, first up, normally we, we,
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  I'm going to be embarrassed to say this, but I've been been
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  very fortunate with, with resources here and, and how our
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  administration's taking care of us and that we prioritize this,
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  this trip just to get us back and kind of have a day last
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  night and have a date today. So we did fly.
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  We, we had two kids that had class on Friday until 5:00.
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  So that kind of threw some things off with, with, with
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  being able to drive and obviously getting up there too
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  late. So we did fly up there and then
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  flew back last night. Yeah, we did have some delays.
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  So, but all of a sudden you look down at the clock, by the time
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  you get back to RVA, you're like, let's not do the math of
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  what it would look like if we would have just taken the bus.
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  But a lot of comfort there. You know, we, we had no extra
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  time with the delay to go grab an extra cheese steak.
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  My son and I grab some ice cream and.
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  And, you know, again, obviously you're in Philadelphia and I
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  think a lot of us have connections there, but one
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  pretty big important connection is Maggie Dugan.
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  So everybody kept asking when do we leave and when we leave?
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  And I kept saying I don't know whenever Dugan tells us to.
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  You know, there was, there was a.
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  There was a cavalcade of young folks there for Maggie, there
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  was media there for Maggie, obviously her family.
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  So a really cool moment for her to to play well in her last
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  regular season 810 game. But the crowd that she had up
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  there was was pretty fun to watch and pretty cool to see.
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  Speaking of Maggie, you know it's real.
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  As you mentioned the last regular season game she's
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  playing in front of her home crowd.
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  I think the announcer on on the TV broadcast said there was like
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  4040 plus family members at the game for her.
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  When you, when she puts up a dominant performance like that,
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  35 points in front of her, her home crowd as a coach, I mean,
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  how, how sentimental can you be in that moment versus like, you
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  know what, we got business to take care of getting ready, you
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  know, for the tournament? Like, I mean, it's, it's kind of
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  a special moment, but at the same time, you're playing a very
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  good team on the road. And, you know, I mean, can you
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  soak it in as a coach and just say, as a fan, say, wow, this is
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  special. Well, yeah, I mean, these kids
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  mean the world to you, right? So, you know, obviously we had a
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  moment this this earlier this year with Jada playing against
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  her sister. And you wanted that to go really
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  well. You know, Maggie, you know, not
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  lost on me every time that we play a Philadelphia school, you
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  know, one that she chose to come here over Richmond, There's a
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  lot of Philly kids that don't. I give a lot of Philly AAU
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  coaches a hard time about them not leaving town.
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  Thankfully, we did with with Maggie.
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  So Maggie would be the first to tell you, you know, first and
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  foremost, we had to get the win. We had to get the win.
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  We had to get the win. You love these kids.
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  So you want them to play well and, and, and have those have
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  that shine, have that moment for themselves.
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  But, you know, we're so spoiled that like, it was such an
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  efficient performance from Maggie yesterday that it didn't
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  feel so like over the top. I think I looked up once and
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  it's like, oh, wow, that's, that's impressive.
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  You know, high 20s and then, you know, with some free throws.
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  But would she have 35 points on 16 shots, something like that?
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  Like the efficiency that she's had this year is it's just been
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  absurd, you know, and I think, you know, maybe we've talked
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  about this, but even some of the games that people, you know,
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  aren't all American numbers and and draft pick numbers and
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  you're like, yeah, she completely dominated game.
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  You know, she had 38 where she had plus 38 and 30 minutes in
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  the in the Rhode Island game. Like he's she's just doing it so
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  efficiently. She's doing it the right way.
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  She's including her teammates. You know, I think we've talked
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  maybe talked about this with with some others, but I think
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  the only time that she's complained about her role is a
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  game that she took nineteen shots and she was in my office
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  complaining that you took too many shots that game.
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  So just a special player and, and we've got a special group
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  and, and that's, you know, hopefully why we can finish this
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  off and in a positive, positive way.
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  You know, I'm curious, like I, I think we look back on this year
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  like offense really hasn't been the issue.
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  Now you had a couple, you know, this tough road trip where
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  offense was an issue, but in general, it's like how to get
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  the defense to be better and better and better.
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  And so Saint Joe's game and holding them to 61 points.
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  Also, we've noticed in the last month or so a little more zone
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  getting kind of thrown in there after a time out or after out of
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  bounds. Like is that something that this
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  and maybe I just haven't noticed you've been doing all year and
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  it's just been more noticeable lately?
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  Or is that a new wrinkle you've been working on in practice and
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  started throwing in? Together it's it's something
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  we've been doing all year. I think we've gotten a little
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  bit better at it. I think we've understood it and
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  fine-tuned a couple things and maybe felt a little more
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  comfortable in certain matchups. You know, I, I always say you
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  get to certain time of year, you know, baseball analogy, you got
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  to have a curveball, you know, you got to have a curveball that
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  you can throw in there. And I think for us sometimes,
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  you know, there's different reasons, right?
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  Hey, penetration, this, hey, this is a good match up.
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  Foul trouble. Hey, you know, we got to hide
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  somebody right now. We, we, we feel like we can do
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  this. And, and so I, I think it, it's
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  a strategic thing. You know, obviously sometimes,
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  you know, timeouts are a reason to, to hold a run that somebody
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  else is on. Sometimes just throwing that
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  curveball in there, sometimes throwing the curveball in the
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  dirt, sometimes, I mean, we've the the George Washington game,
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  we started pressing. I we hadn't done that.
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  You know, that was just something that like, Hey, can we
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  mix this up a little bit and, and do something different?
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  You know, I think we picked up and pressured a little bit
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  yesterday more than we probably had planned, but just something
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  to get our guys going, something to, to get you, you know, maybe
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  back on your heels a little bit, change the rhythm of a game that
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  that's really what it's been for us.
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  And, and I think we've gotten a lot better at it, But I also
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  think we've gotten better defensively over the season,
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  which has probably been the biggest, the the biggest
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  improvement that that you've seen from our program.
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  Late in that game against Saint Joe's, it was a kind of a very
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  subtle moment, but they got a breakaway or where they where
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  they had numbers in their favor and and Alicia Newell casually
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  fouled the girl who's going down the court.
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  It was only our third foul, so they weren't going to the line.
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  It just allowed our defense to reset.
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  And I thought for a second about it.
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  And it seems to me like you have a way of recruiting head Z
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  players who who are smart about the game of basketball because
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  that won't show up on a stat sheet.
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  But like, you know, you're just thinking about the defensive
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  reset to give you the best chance of reducing their point
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  total or reducing their ability to score.
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  And you think about Sweeney, who's like having a second coach
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  on the floor and Maggie is 1/3 coach on the floor.
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  And how how cerebral Rachel is. Like, is that an intentional
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  strategy of yours to recruit really smart basketball players?
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  Or is that something that you kind of teach to your system?
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  Maybe a little bit of both. You know, I think the the feel
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  for the game is something that we really talked about a lot
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  more as as a staff, you know, and I think that's something
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  that can be taught, but a little bit harder.
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  So, you know, you always look athleticism, length and you
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  shoot the basketball things that we've always looked for.
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  But sometimes just that feel for a game, you know, your ability
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  to pass, you know, you, you watch us play the balls in
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  Maggie's hands because she's a great player, but just
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  positionally, the ball was in her hands, the balls in Addie's
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  hands, the balls in Tierra's hands.
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  We have quarterbacks for sometimes.
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  I always tell our post players you're you're the quarterback
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  too, you know, use the Tom Brady analogy, use different analogies
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  with that. So I think you need to have a
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  certain feel of the game. It's just something that we look
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  for. You know, the moment you're
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  talking about. Yeah, I think we had third
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  quarter yesterday. I mean, I think we put them at
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  the line 11 times and like most games, we're not putting people
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  in the line 11 total. So going back to your point,
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  when your team that doesn't foul a lot, I think you can use those
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  take fouls a little strict strategically.
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  I think that is something that we've done a little bit this
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  year of, you know, I think I said it yesterday.
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  Hey, Maggie, you can't, I think she had three or four files at
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  that point and you can't take one.
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  But the rest of us know that we've got one to give and, and
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  at that point, if we had two to give, yeah, it is something that
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  that we use. And I think there's some nuances
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  that we talked about it. I think there's another one
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  yesterday of A2 for one that we we negated A2 for one for, for
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  Saint Joe's just for letting the ball bounce a little bit, not
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  inbounding it right away. Small things like that that we
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  do talk about. There are kids I think enjoy and
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  do pick up on. That's awesome.
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  So looking back to kind of maybe this season, the last season,
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  obviously we've had a lot of success NCAA tournaments, like
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  when you set your goals for the season like it, do you have like
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  your own personal goals and kind of then you talk to the team
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  about their goals or how does that all come about when you're
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  like in the summer getting a new team together?
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  Yeah, we, we don't have those goal meetings that never did,
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  You know, now we'd all be crazy. I think fans, players, coaching
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  staff alike that like, yeah, in the offseason, it's we got to
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  get better. We got to get better because
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  we're trying to get to a Sweet 16.
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  We we got to get the NCAA tournament.
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  We got to win a championship. You know, I think that's, that's
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  probably the, the emptiness that maybe I've had in the last 24
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  hours is like I I've really proud of myself that, you know,
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  that the three situations I've taken over, it's it's been
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  rebuilt, right? And so I've always told, I said
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  always told the AD for I guess the last two jobs has been the
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  same AD at different jobs of like, hey, man, you know, start,
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  start judging us on year 4. You know, year 4, we're going to
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  start. The goal is to win
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  championships. And so, you know, I, yes,
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  there's a, we want to win a championship every single year.
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  Is that something that's realistic?
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  Maybe, maybe not. But I think that once we've
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  established the program, winning a championship is, is always the
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  goal. Again, a little bit of an
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  emptiness yesterday when you're watching a couple other teams
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  Deservedly so, you know, have their shine.
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  But yeah, I mean, I think once you you don't you're not coming
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  to this program to to to not make an NCAA tournament run.
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  You know, Maggie Dugan, Rachel Sweeney, they didn't come back
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  to just hang out, right? They're they're working hard and
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  you know, you and then I'm on the opposite end of Ava rain
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  some of the other Friday. You don't come to this program
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  if it's not winning a you know, winning a championship isn't
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  high on your priority. So it is something we talked
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  about both. Honestly guys, once the season
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  starts, it is we got to get better.
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  We got to get better. You know, and I think we've been
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  dealt to it. You know, I've said this talked
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  about this situation a lot that the locker room at Rhode Island
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  on December 30th of look guys, we just got shown that we are
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  not good enough. We're not good enough today.
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  We were not good enough to be another team in our league.
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  So we have got to get better. We got to get better.
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  And then, you know, you look at it last last week, I think we
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  were top 20 and in both over the last since since that game,
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  we've been top 20 in in in rating of of defensive rating
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  and offensive rating in the country and weirdly defensive
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  rating. I think we were top ten in the
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  country over the last 12 to 14 games.
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  So that's a heck of a stride from I think a lot of coaches in
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  our league that maybe didn't pay attention to our defense and
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  didn't respect our defense. We've gotten better, we've
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  gotten better. And I think that's really the
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  that's really the driving point for our for our program is not
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  necessary championship talk once the season starts, just getting
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  better and put yourself in a good spot.
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  You mentioned the three freshmen.
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  You've been playing the three freshmen together quite a bit
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  now and watching it as a fan, I I don't see any real noticeable
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  degradation. So the freshmen are no longer
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  freshmen in my opinion. Tell us a little bit about what
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  you've seen about how the freshman class has evolved.
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  And, and that's exactly what I've said too.
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  Like I, I, when we've talked about it there, there is a
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  moment maybe once in each the last couple games, I'm like, Oh
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  my God, we have 3 freshmen out there.
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  And it wasn't, it wasn't a scary thing.
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  It was like, oh, that's kind of cool.
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  I don't look at them as freshmen right now.
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  You know, they, they've, they've been through the grind.
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  They've put up with me. And I mean that in, in a way of
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  like, I'm my relationship, the way I talked to, to Maggie,
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  Rachel is going to be different. How I talked to, to their
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  freshmen. You're trying to groom those
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  freshmen, you're trying to toughen those freshmen up.
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  How I talked to Maggie as a senior, how I talked to Maggie
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  as a freshman are way different as well.
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  So I, I, I mean this with all sincerity and love.
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  Like they've been through the grind.
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  We put them through the grind as freshmen and it it's been some
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  ups and downs and eye rolls and this guy's crazy, this guy's
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  wrong. This they've been through this.
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  And I think, you know, you look at what Anisha, you know,
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  obviously people saw what she did against LaSalle last game,
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  but that that had been some growth moments throughout the
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  year that that she needed to kind of mature up.
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  She needed to kind of go through some of that.
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  She'd been having some really, really strong practices and,
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  and, and you saw the results there.
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  You also look at, you know, jump around.
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  But even with, with Allie Sweeney, like, I don't think our
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  freshmen, our freshmen look at what Sweeney's done and they
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  don't realize that all of them have probably played, had played
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  more than what Allie did as freshmen.
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  And so some of this is you're in a program where there's other
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  really, really good players. Allie was behind Grace, but she
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  was figuring some things out. It wasn't always smooth, but she
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  was figuring things out. I think that's what you've seen
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  with, with all of our freshmen, you know, and, and even Shanika
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  to like Shanika is going to be really, really good.
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  You know, maybe shame on me for not finding some, some more
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  spots for her. But we have 3 senior post
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  players right now that are really good that have been
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  through this. And so that's a little bit of
• 16:32
  figuring things out as freshmen. And then it's not just for your
• 16:37
  sophomore, junior year. I think by the end of your
• 16:38
  freshman year, you're at a spot that really need to help or
• 16:41
  really can help us. And if you look at the
• 16:43
  construction of this year's roster, they have to, you know,
• 16:45
  we knew that as a staff, we knew these guys were going to have to
• 16:48
  grow up and they were going to have to help us to to make a run
• 16:50
  in March. You know, I love during that
• 16:53
  Nisha game against Los Al, she scored twenty.
• 16:55
  There was a point not when she got to 20, but on the way to 20
• 16:59
  that I remember there was a big shot.
• 17:01
  Maybe there was a time out or something in alley was on the
• 17:05
  bench, like had this look of like actually looked at one of
• 17:09
  the assistant coaches was kind of like I told you and they like
• 17:12
  fist. They like fist bumped like some
• 17:14
  version of like I could tell she had seen this coming.
• 17:17
  Maybe not, you know, 20 points was a bit of a surprise, but I
• 17:20
  you could tell, like the look on her face was like a little bit
• 17:23
  of like a proud, proud Mama. Like watching this freshman
• 17:27
  like, you know, have a game like that.
• 17:29
  Yeah, and I I think for all of us, right.
• 17:31
  And and it's funny, I I rewatched the game again last
• 17:33
  night. Obviously now that we've got the
• 17:34
  LaSalle draw, watched that on the plane coming home last
• 17:37
  night. And yeah, she was she was in a
• 17:39
  zone. But kind of like what you said,
• 17:40
  I remember like Maggie, like insisting on getting the ball to
• 17:43
  her. Like that's a big growing up
• 17:45
  moment when you know your potential.
• 17:47
  All American is just asking you to to step up in a big time role
• 17:50
  and feeding you the ball and in a big time moment in that.
• 17:53
  I remember some of the crowd shots, you know, watching it
• 17:55
  last night too. I'm sorry, bench shots watching
• 17:58
  it last night too, of just how excited our players were for
• 18:02
  Anisha. Cause one again, we've all put
• 18:04
  in so much work and so much time into this.
• 18:06
  And when you, you see somebody get some credit, you see
• 18:08
  somebody get that feeling. We've all been there right when
• 18:11
  things are just clicking and all of a sudden all the stresses are
• 18:14
  left behind, All the work feels like, like it was worth it.
• 18:18
  So really a cool moment And and I think she's really carried
• 18:20
  that that through now since he's in these other games too, not
• 18:24
  just that she's played well, but I've been saying too, if you
• 18:28
  watch Allie, those minutes that she comes in after she's gotten
• 18:31
  a break, she's been fantastic. And that's probably something we
• 18:34
  didn't have a month ago. Yeah, you knew Allie could play
• 18:37
  40, but you don't want her to have to play 40, right?
• 18:40
  Or. 55 or. 55 right against Davidson.
• 18:44
  Hey question for you. So going to your coaching
• 18:47
  influences. You've been extremely successful
• 18:48
  Chicago Bucknell and here like what, who who in your life and
• 18:54
  it could be somebody you know personally or somebody that you
• 18:56
  just admired is your greatest coaching influence who's
• 18:59
  somebody who kind of you just said I got to I got to do it
• 19:01
  like that or that person taught me this.
• 19:04
  Yeah, you know, I, I had a great youth coach back in the day that
• 19:08
  that since his past and I think that's a great influence.
• 19:10
  But it's interesting, right? Like I got, I got my first head
• 19:14
  coaching job at the age of 25. I got hired as an assistant in
• 19:17
  September. 2 weeks later, head coach says, hey, I'm, I'm
• 19:21
  leaving. And I thought I was out of a
• 19:22
  job. I didn't even know the AD He
• 19:24
  came in. I remember he said, you know, do
• 19:26
  you have a bass on out of bounds play?
• 19:27
  And I was like, what are you talking about, pal?
• 19:28
  He's like, I don't know you, but we can't do a search.
• 19:31
  So my point is like I was 25. I was a head coach before is
• 19:34
  really an assistant coach. I I was a GA and had a great
• 19:38
  boss and and so did learn a ton from her, but you Start learning
• 19:42
  from your competitors. I I think that's my biggest
• 19:44
  thing. When I was at University of
• 19:45
  Chicago, had a cool moment. We played Saint Louis this year
• 19:49
  about a month ago, Chicago and Wash U of, of, of Saint Louis.
• 19:53
  Wash U of Saint Louis was the dominant Division Three power.
• 19:57
  They had four or five national titles.
• 20:00
  She's a legend. She's a Hall of Famer and they
• 20:02
  were a rival. And here I was like 25.
• 20:04
  I didn't know anything. And here's this legend on the
• 20:06
  other end. And so you just out of fear of
• 20:09
  failure, I think I just always watched her.
• 20:11
  I watched so much of of some of those are VHS tapes.
• 20:14
  If you date ourselves here a little bit.
• 20:17
  Of them, but you just I felt like I learned so much from our
• 20:20
  competitors and some of that was scouting.
• 20:22
  I never felt like I was good enough.
• 20:24
  I still probably have that now that like I feel like I need to
• 20:26
  watch more film and do more and work hard and everybody else
• 20:29
  because just that fear of failure.
• 20:31
  And I still do now like I still think there's coaches in our
• 20:33
  league. There's still coaches I've gone
• 20:34
  against that I'm like, hey, that that that coach is really good.
• 20:38
  So, yeah, weirdly for me, I can't say it's been like I had a
• 20:41
  great boss as Aga that a lot of this has been learning from your
• 20:45
  competitors and and we had a cool Division Three group of
• 20:48
  coaches that back then actually we were really close.
• 20:50
  And and so anyway, she going long winded here, but Coach
• 20:54
  Nancy Faye at Wash U came back and talked with our team when we
• 20:57
  were at Saint Louis a few weeks ago and crazy story, but she's
• 21:01
  actually the coach at University of Illinois that recruited Sam
• 21:04
  Dewey. So when Sam was a portal, all
• 21:07
  come in full circle. When Sam was in the portal, I
• 21:09
  remember, you know, calling Coach Faye and talking with her
• 21:12
  about Sam. She had recruited Sam to
• 21:14
  Illinois but was not there when when she coached her or when Sam
• 21:17
  got there. Speaking of learning from your
• 21:19
  adversaries, Tom re watches all the spider sound off episodes to
• 21:22
  see how I do it and then and then he tries to do it himself.
• 21:25
  So I mean, I we know what he talks about.
• 21:27
  Coach, it's, it's amazing. It's like, what are we like the
• 21:29
  average of the four or five people were around the most, You
• 21:32
  know, here, here we are. Look how lucky you both are.
• 21:34
  Right, I'm curious you, you talk about the, the last, you know,
• 21:39
  your career at Richmond at least like in over 4 years, thinking
• 21:43
  kind of a Maggie's four years, like the attendance at
• 21:45
  Richmond's gone from like 700 ish to 2000.
• 21:50
  So 1. Like, you know, like how does
• 21:52
  that make you feel when we've got kind of the, the bigger
• 21:54
  crowds? But there's also, you know, I
• 21:57
  think of goal. I remember when I saw that we
• 21:58
  were at 2000, like, oh, I wonder where that ranks.
• 22:01
  And there's still a lot of schools that get more than 2000
• 22:04
  at their game. So it's like we can do even
• 22:06
  better. But like, how do you see that
• 22:08
  that evolution to date and like, what do you think we could
• 22:11
  achieve in the future when it comes to kind of getting fans
• 22:15
  engaged? You know, one, I will say, well,
• 22:19
  I'll even back up. It's one of my biggest goals.
• 22:21
  I and I and I think I I spoke openly about that when when I
• 22:25
  first got here, especially once we got good, you know, once you
• 22:28
  felt good about the products that people were watching, you
• 22:30
  really want to get people here, But that that's been a goal of
• 22:33
  mine really everywhere I've been.
• 22:35
  I know winning is important. All of these things.
• 22:37
  This was before NIL and making it like revenue generation.
• 22:42
  I just wanted to create atmosphere like that's just.
• 22:44
  I, I wasn't a great player, but I loved college basketball.
• 22:48
  Like going to a college basketball game was like the
• 22:50
  coolest thing in the world. And my son probably feels that
• 22:52
  right now. So that was always a, a driving
• 22:55
  goal is something we've worked at.
• 22:57
  I, I say on women in women's basketball, like your head coach
• 23:00
  has to be also like the head of your marketing, or at least a
• 23:02
  big part of the marketing drive. We have great, a great marketing
• 23:06
  staff here. Sometimes I think I drive them
• 23:08
  nuts because I'm constantly coming up with with crazy minor
• 23:11
  league ideas. I've I've gotten really close
• 23:13
  with Parney over there at the at the flying squirrels and just
• 23:16
  try to pick his brain all the time on because sometimes I just
• 23:18
  feel like this is it's like minor League Baseball, right?
• 23:20
  You got to come up with some some different things, but I
• 23:22
  think the the biggest driver for us is just been how involved our
• 23:26
  team has been with our fans. You know, you see this after
• 23:29
  games that it's just it's a party, right?
• 23:31
  Like, what am I going to say to our team in the locker room
• 23:33
  other than something I'm going to have to apologize for the
• 23:35
  next day because I saw it wrong on film, you know, and, and, and
• 23:39
  so I I think that's a good draw for our players too, of just
• 23:44
  getting to be a big part of the Richmond community.
• 23:47
  The fans have been awesome. I mean, again, what do we want
• 23:49
  32 home A10 games in a row, something like that?
• 23:52
  Like the huge part of that is, is the atmosphere that we have
• 23:56
  at the Robbins Center and, and at the Henry Co Center, which
• 23:59
  hopefully we'll talk about here. But you know, we, we said the
• 24:02
  disappointment of not getting the one seed and, and maybe even
• 24:04
  two seed. The the positive here is a three
• 24:06
  seed 730 man. We got a Friday night party this
• 24:09
  week. No obstacles to getting out on
• 24:11
  Friday night at 7:30. Just to finish up on that
• 24:14
  thought, though. I mean, I've, I've hung around
• 24:16
  after the game, the last two home games that you played in
• 24:19
  the Robin Center, just mainly to take it all in 'cause it was
• 24:22
  the, it's, it's, it's sort of the end of the era for some
• 24:24
  great players. And I'm just so impressed by how
• 24:27
  you and the rest of the team just network with all of the
• 24:30
  fans, you know, just to make, make them feel like, hey, we
• 24:33
  really appreciate you. That's just a a difference I've
• 24:36
  seen in the women's game that I really do appreciate as as as a
• 24:39
  fan, just to see how hard you guys work to build that kind of
• 24:41
  loyalty and camaraderie with the fan.
• 24:43
  Base No, I appreciate that. And again, it is something we,
• 24:46
  we, we take a lot of pride in. And, and the fact that I think
• 24:49
  the last four games, we literally have had a security
• 24:52
  detail for Maggie and for Rachel.
• 24:54
  Like, I mean, we're at, we're at women's basketball, right?
• 24:57
  We're at women's basketball at the University of Richmond.
• 24:59
  They literally have a security detail a second that the thing
• 25:01
  ends because they are being mobbed.
• 25:03
  And you know, God, God bless Maggie.
• 25:05
  She handles this so well. People have no idea how well she
• 25:09
  handles it. And, and again, not sentiment.
• 25:13
  People have no idea that the garbage that she puts up with
• 25:15
  too, you know, like we all see the positive and that's great.
• 25:18
  She's at that level right now that she gets some of the
• 25:21
  negative side of it too. And she's probably never talked
• 25:23
  about that. Nobody has any idea how how hard
• 25:25
  it is to handle some of that stuff.
• 25:27
  But she's handled with such grace.
• 25:28
  She she's given back to be the greatest ambassador for our
• 25:32
  program you could ever ask for. And, and like I said, now we got
• 25:35
  security detail for two of our best players, which is crazy.
• 25:38
  Yeah, that's crazy. We don't have security detail
• 25:41
  yet here it's miter sound off. We haven't, we haven't got to
• 25:44
  that level this. Is my security guy right here?
• 25:46
  That's. Right.
• 25:47
  Which just generally means I'm I'm I'm not in a good place if
• 25:50
  we get attacked. Yeah, that's right.
• 25:52
  Anyway, before we get to the A10 tournament, obviously we want to
• 25:55
  focus on that. I'm curious on just like your
• 25:58
  philosophy with team building, like you got a big recruit
• 26:00
  freshman class coming in. There's the portal obviously
• 26:04
  like how do you, how do you balance all of that out kind of
• 26:07
  when does the portal work really begin?
• 26:09
  I mean, I know we've heard plenty of like it's year round,
• 26:13
  but just how do you do that balance of like how much the
• 26:15
  freshman side versus kind of how do you leverage the portal?
• 26:20
  Yeah, I mean, I mean the, the portal probably is on people's
• 26:22
  minds and you know, every once while you're getting stuff on
• 26:25
  it. And and I don't know if this
• 26:27
  means we're not doing our job well, but we really try,
• 26:30
  especially me to just not think about that, especially this time
• 26:33
  of year. Like I my staff knows that Yep,
• 26:35
  we all have recruiting responsibilities.
• 26:37
  We all have this my absolute, without a close doubt, my main
• 26:41
  focus is our team and our players, you know, and that's
• 26:44
  that's not superficial. That's not like, hey, that means
• 26:46
  that they'll come back. Like I just feel in my job, you
• 26:50
  got to be in the present. You have to take care of your
• 26:53
  kids. And that's what I enjoy.
• 26:54
  Like, yes, I realized that we need to get more of these
• 26:58
  players need to find the next, next Maggie, the next Rachel,
• 27:00
  all of that sort of stuff. But I just, I just feel like you
• 27:04
  have to enjoy your current players.
• 27:06
  You have to otherwise this otherwise this job can suck.
• 27:09
  And you hear people talk about how hard this job is.
• 27:11
  It is really hard. There's a lot of things that you
• 27:13
  know you didn't sign up for, but you still get to coach an
• 27:17
  awesome group of 14 young women. You still get to work with a
• 27:20
  great staff. You have to enjoy that part.
• 27:23
  And I think me as the head coach, I have to have more than,
• 27:28
  if not all of my focus on on our current team.
• 27:30
  So really tried to do that. And but I also probably try to
• 27:35
  make this organic as well, especially with our players.
• 27:38
  We've all done, I want to say corny that sounds, you know,
• 27:40
  we'll we'll do different events. I'll have them over to the house
• 27:42
  for for dinner. But you know, other than this
• 27:45
  fighter open, we did the spider trickshot challenge.
• 27:48
  Or was that like a three weeks ago for the first time, Coach
• 27:51
  won that one. Hey.
• 27:55
  I tell you what, I think they enjoy a lot more when coach
• 27:56
  isn't winning, that maybe I took too much joy in that one.
• 28:01
  But just try to make this fun, try to make this enjoyable and I
• 28:03
  think you you need to make this player LED, especially this time
• 28:07
  of year. Did you have to carry Ava in
• 28:10
  that competition? I know she was, wasn't she?
• 28:11
  Or. It's a team game.
• 28:13
  It's a team game, guys. It's a team game.
• 28:16
  So I'll, I'll, I'll there, there were plenty of eyes there.
• 28:18
  There's maybe some film. This was a team effort and glad
• 28:22
  we can finally get our name engraved on that thing.
• 28:24
  So Friday night, 7:30, first game, you got one of three
• 28:28
  possible opponents. I won't ask you to comment on
• 28:30
  those guys because I mean, obviously they're all bring
• 28:32
  something to the table. What talk about this week of
• 28:36
  practice. How do you get ready for Friday
• 28:37
  night? Obviously Spider fans, you got
• 28:40
  to you got to show up in Henrico.
• 28:41
  It's a 20 minute drive. Rep the red, you know, make that
• 28:44
  place a red out. But tell us about practice this
• 28:46
  week. How does that look?
• 28:47
  Yeah, again, I think we have a mature team.
• 28:51
  So I did this is not looking past anything.
• 28:54
  You know, I think, you know, we met between the bus and the
• 28:57
  plane and I guess it's called the tarmac last night as a
• 28:59
  staff. And you know, when when you have
• 29:02
  staff that that kind of has focused on different opponents
• 29:04
  throughout the season that that sometimes works great.
• 29:06
  And and me when you're signing that you're spacing those out
• 29:10
  sometimes, you know, that may mean that Ariel and I think has
• 29:13
  three really good teams and and and potential opponents.
• 29:17
  We kind of had to split some of that stuff up.
• 29:19
  So, you know, obviously, you know, LaSalle is the higher
• 29:22
  seed, so we got to make sure, you know, Janine's got them.
• 29:25
  We just played them a couple weeks ago, right?
• 29:27
  You got Saint Louis and and and Fordham as possibilities.
• 29:30
  So you have your prep for that. But I also feel like we'd be
• 29:33
  doing a disservice if we only focused on those teams right
• 29:37
  now. We have to understand that
• 29:39
  Friday night after that 730 game, if we're if we're good
• 29:43
  enough and fortunate enough to advance, there's not much prep
• 29:46
  for that Saturday opponent. So we've we will, you know,
• 29:51
  focus on some other potential opponents.
• 29:54
  You know, I am last night and today.
• 29:56
  We will do some things in practice on Monday and Tuesday
• 29:59
  for future opponents. And then, you know, we're
• 30:02
  actually going to give them Wednesday off at am hoping that
• 30:04
  this is going to be a long weekend.
• 30:06
  We'll give the players Wednesday off and then Thursday.
• 30:09
  The hard part is we don't know who we're going to play until
• 30:12
  about 10:00 Thursday night. So Thursday's practice, you're
• 30:17
  kind of prepping for maybe more than one team or you're putting
• 30:20
  your eggs into one basket and then trying to figure that out
• 30:23
  on the back end. But we will.
• 30:25
  And this is where our players maturity and what will come into
• 30:28
  play here that Yep, we're working on some teams that it's
• 30:31
  not quote the sole focus of the next game, which is different
• 30:33
  than the regular season with that.
• 30:36
  Or do you have coaches go Wednesday or Thursday to kind of
• 30:39
  watch the opponent's live? Yeah, we'll have, we'll have
• 30:42
  somebody over there on Wednesday and then on Thursday, to be
• 30:44
  honest with you again, the 7:30 start, we will practice here
• 30:47
  Thursday. We'll get a meal.
• 30:50
  You know what, we're going to stay downtown this weekend.
• 30:53
  We will. The bus will go to Henrico on
• 30:56
  Thursday night for that 730 game.
• 30:58
  They'll at least stay for some of it.
• 31:00
  Staff, I'm sure we'll stay for all of it.
• 31:02
  We'll get everything in a row and get ready for Friday.
• 31:05
  We'll come back here and and do a shoot around here on Friday.
• 31:08
  The unique thing, and this is something I haven't really
• 31:10
  talked with all of our players about yet, is that 730 game on
• 31:14
  on Friday, you know, can be really tricky and unique, right?
• 31:19
  We're the 10th game of the tournament on Friday night.
• 31:22
  So when we play Friday, 9 of the other teams are at home.
• 31:27
  We're one of five teams that are left.
• 31:28
  And so all of a sudden at 7:30, like it's really go time and if
• 31:32
  you're fortunate enough to win, you know, you're you're playing
• 31:35
  right away again at 1:30 the next day.
• 31:37
  So in like an 18 to 20 hour window, you're figuring out are
• 31:40
  you in the championship game or you're not in the championship
• 31:42
  game. So you really kind of have to
• 31:43
  build it for that, but you also have to have some things prepped
• 31:46
  for that 130 opponent. How how does the last I mean two
• 31:50
  seasons ago you win it. Last year you had got got upset
• 31:53
  in the semis. Like how does that does that
• 31:56
  change anything that that you're doing or the team is obviously
• 32:00
  we got players who have played in those games.
• 32:01
  Anything different or it's kind of, you know, business as usual
• 32:04
  in terms of attacking the the tough?
• 32:06
  Tournament again, other than the scheduling that we just talked
• 32:09
  about, right, when you, when you 11 AM, you kind of have a full
• 32:11
  day before the next day, 11 AM. That can be good and that can be
• 32:15
  bad. You know, I, I think obviously
• 32:16
  being the one seed it, it, it has some advantages.
• 32:19
  It has some disadvantages. The three seed has some
• 32:21
  disadvantages with the, with the quick turn around, but it also
• 32:25
  when you look at the path, it's, it's not the worst thing in the
• 32:28
  world. So other than scheduling, I
• 32:31
  think we can learn with some confidence of how we've handled
• 32:33
  the weeks. You know, Wednesday is not a
• 32:35
  normal off day two days before a game on a when on a Friday, But
• 32:39
  you also know from two years ago that those three games can be
• 32:42
  long. It, it can be a long day there.
• 32:44
  So you kind of have to shorten the week a little bit.
• 32:47
  You know, we, we, we've had a tough stretch the last two weeks
• 32:51
  as well. So there's got to be some some
• 32:53
  rest and freshness going in for our players.
• 32:57
  But yeah, I think there's some confidence right now in the fact
• 32:59
  that we've been through this. I think there's also the flip
• 33:01
  side of that is we have anger is maybe too strong of a word.
• 33:05
  Maybe it's not too strong of a word of how last year ended.
• 33:08
  So I think there's some internal drive that we have, but there's
• 33:12
  also some confidence to know that our prep, our experience
• 33:16
  has been there and done that. Yeah, you don't mind that sad
• 33:19
  taste in your mouth, right? Like it at some point you want
• 33:21
  like you don't want to get that to get you out of sorts, but
• 33:25
  like, you know, having a little chip on the shoulder never seems
• 33:28
  to hurt in. Sports, yeah.
• 33:29
  And there there there's some of that from last year and there's
• 33:31
  some of it from this year, to be honest with you.
• 33:33
  I mean, I don't think that that's that that's completely
• 33:36
  gone away this year from some things.
• 33:39
  Well, I think if you are lucky enough to get through Friday
• 33:41
  night and I, you know, it looks like it could be a looming third
• 33:45
  rematch with George Mason on Saturday at 1:30.
• 33:48
  They're a awful physical team inside.
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  They really do put a beating on the teams that they play.
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  You know, hopefully you can get on to a lead in that first
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  Friday night game so you can rest some of your core players
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  because that would be a really physical affair if that's how it
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  matches, if that's how the seating matches up goes or.
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  For sure, for sure. And I think weirdly, you know,
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  it's also like that'd be the 4th time that we've prepared for
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  George Mason. You know, we prepared everything
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  for George Mason in January. That game got moved.
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  So you know, it's it's, it's a team that we know well.
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  But yeah, you can't the physicality that they play with
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  and, and just a a really, really good staff that if that prepares
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  really well. I mean, we have really good
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  coaches in this league. But I think, you know what
• 34:28
  Vanessa has done up there and flipping that thing around is
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  it's been very impressive. But they're they're always a
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  tough preparation. You know they're going to be
• 34:34
  very well prepared for you as well.
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  I think it's going to be like mid 60s or 70s this weekend, so
• 34:40
  I think you'll be OK with getting this game in.
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  I don't, I don't think we'll have any wet weather
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  difficulties. This started to poke the bear a
• 34:46
  little bit. Brother, you're trying to poke.
• 34:48
  The bear a little. Bit no, but again it it's great
• 34:52
  weather and great golf weather. It's going to be great golf
• 34:54
  weather for the next 5 months here guys.
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  So there are no excuses. We, we got to get ourselves, we
• 34:59
  got to get ourselves a crowd and and honest God, man, I've said
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  this two years ago when we walked out for the 11 AM game,
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  the first ever game at Henrico at 11 AM.
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  The crowd was awesome. Seeing the red like that's still
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  a goosebump moment for me. We we got to get a crowd there.
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  This is it's for the. Bug out there for for Spider
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  fandom. So it's a much smaller venue
• 35:20
  than the Robin Center and all of the teams that play in this
• 35:23
  travel really well. You'll see big fan bases for
• 35:25
  each team, but there's something to be said, you know, for a
• 35:28
  Richmond game at Henrico Center, when there's that many red
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  jerseys or shirts or sweatshirts in the audience, it is it can be
• 35:35
  a really special moment for the for the team, for the energy
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  level and the place is just a really good venue for
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  basketball. So come on out and support the
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  ladies Friday night, hopefully into Saturday and maybe even
• 35:45
  Sunday at 4:00 if we're lucky. I, I think coach, we, we really
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  appreciate you coming on. We know this could be a busy
• 35:52
  week of preparation for you again.
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  Second time we've got a chance to talk to you this year.
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  We'd love what you're doing. 25 wins, 37 in the net.
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  Firmly on the at large bubble right now.
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  So, and I hope you have no time for golf until April.
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  That's exactly. And you know what, You know what
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  the weird thing is, April's now just incredibly busy month for
• 36:11
  us as well in this profession. But you know what, we'll, we'll
• 36:15
  get that vitamin D in different ways and we'll find different
• 36:19
  ways out there. But like you guys said, man,
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  first and foremost, I promise you, you'll have, you'll have a
• 36:23
  great, a great time this week and it's a great venue.
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  Whereas you just said awesome atmosphere.
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  But we, we got to get this thing rocking, man.
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  Like our our players, hate to hate to say this, but our
• 36:34
  players do deserve this. But more for you guys and for
• 36:38
  for fans and you will have a great time.
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  You might even need to get there early on Friday night during
• 36:42
  that George. Mason game, we're actually media
• 36:44
  for this, so we've got media passes.
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  So I think we can, we can, we can get in at.
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  Any time and just for the fans who?
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  Got key folks out there, get there early because I I do
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  think. And not not for U.S.
• 36:53
  Media, but for the fans who haven't been there, there is a
• 36:56
  bar yeah at, at at the arena. So there there's opportunity as
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  a good snack bar and a regular bar, so.
• 37:04
  And it was super fun time. Yeah, and, and, and it's a
• 37:07
  Friday night. I, I, I'm sure that they'll get
• 37:09
  this out, but I think there's a Buffalo wild rings around the
• 37:12
  corner that I believe there might be a pregame event there
• 37:15
  for, for maybe, I don't know, for potentially all games, but
• 37:20
  hopefully we're all putting the vibe out there for hopefully a
• 37:22
  celebration on Sunday at WWW. I think it's a Plaza Azteca
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  around the corner that we've already kind of had our eyes on.
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  First and foremost, we, we need to play well.
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  We need to have a good week of prep.
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  We need to get some spider fans out there and and have a party
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  all weekend up in Henrico. Absolutely, Coach, we really
• 37:39
  appreciate your time today. Good luck with practice this
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  week, good luck Friday night and we hope to talk to you soon.
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  You guys are the best. Thank you.
• 37:45
  Appreciate. It thanks Coach.