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Katie Woo’s Dodgers update & Curt Hogg’s Brewers report · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: The newest member of Dodger's Territory. She's been on the
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Speaker 1: show now for about a month and change, but covering
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Speaker 1: the team out there and covering the first real games
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Speaker 1: for the Dodgers of the twenty twenty six season. Katie
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Speaker 1: Woo joining us right now. Katie, great to have you
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Speaker 1: on and great to have you part of Dodgers' Territory.
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Speaker 1: If you don't mind, I would like to start with
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Speaker 1: the social media controversy because one of the things that
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Speaker 1: really made this network special is that we can cover
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Speaker 1: what everyone's talking about online. The Dodgers winning, sweeping, all
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Speaker 1: the festivities, that's all cool. Is there really a story
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Speaker 1: to the team kind of switching things up for Edwin
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Speaker 1: Diaz with a remix of the song and fans liking
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Speaker 1: it are not liking it because online fans are going crazy.
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Speaker 1: I just can't tell if those fans are bitter Mets fans.
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Speaker 1: So your thoughts.
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Speaker 2: So, I actually was not sure what the controversy was
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Speaker 2: for a second, and I was like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: what did I miss? But now this makes more sense. Also,
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Speaker 2: very nice to see you guys. I noticed no Aj
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Speaker 2: Persinski yet again, not surprised, just disappointed, but certainly very
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Speaker 2: happy to be with you guys. Let's talk. Let's talk
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Speaker 2: to Edwin Diaz. If I was a Mets fan, I
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Speaker 2: would be disappointed too, so I get it. I'd be
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Speaker 2: maybe a little bitter. I actually think the Dodgers entrance
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Speaker 2: is really sick. They brought in Chatana Tate, a Los
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Speaker 2: Angeles based musician. She works with DOCI very accomplished to
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Speaker 2: do a live trumpet performance both nights. The bullpen catchers
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Speaker 2: and the training staff. They actually brought in many trumpets
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Speaker 2: of their own and they play kind of like how
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Speaker 2: mister and missus Met did as Edwin is running in
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Speaker 2: and the stadium loved it. I mean it was I
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Speaker 2: was excited as an objective member of the media to
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Speaker 2: see Edwin Diaz come in the first time at Dodgers Stadium.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's really cool. I think the Dodgers
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Speaker 2: might have more things planned. Edwin Diaz loved it. The
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Speaker 2: team loved it. The first when you hear the first
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Speaker 2: kind of drums, the beat drop, and you're just waiting
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Speaker 2: for the trumpets, the lights go down. He's running in.
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Speaker 2: Not since like can Jansen California love have the Dodgers
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Speaker 2: had just insane entrance like that. So Mets fans, I
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Speaker 2: get it, I do, But I don't think there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of controversy here. I actually think the entrance is
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Speaker 2: pretty electric.
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Speaker 3: I want to talk about Roki Sasaki coming in now,
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Speaker 3: He's got his first star coming up. Spring training wasn't
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Speaker 3: the best. Uh do we look into this a little
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Speaker 3: bit more or is it just him trying to tinker
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Speaker 3: with things, trying new pitches, maybe, you know, not showing
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Speaker 3: his what he really wanted to do with his full arsenal.
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Speaker 3: So this is a big one coming up here to
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Speaker 3: kind of ease all Dodger nation, you know a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were definitely. I usually am like, let's pump
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Speaker 2: the brake spring training and spring training, but this case
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Speaker 2: is a little different. It was not a break for
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Speaker 2: Roki Sasaki, and his troubles were kind of all over
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Speaker 2: the place. It was an erratic command. Couldn't establish the fastball.
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Speaker 2: He's working on that third pitch to his arsenal, but
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Speaker 2: that's really hard to do when you can't really command
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Speaker 2: the first two pitches in your arsenal. Kind of out
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Speaker 2: of sync, just kind of lost. Now the Dodgers have
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Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt and saying where the Dodgers
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Speaker 2: and everything's fine, But let's read behind the lines. Rokiy
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Speaker 2: Sasaki is making his first start today. There was never
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Speaker 2: a question, even through all the trials and tribulations of spring,
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Speaker 2: that he wouldn't be in the rotation. And I can
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Speaker 2: understand a picture with that degree that high of stealing
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Speaker 2: should give it should have every chance to be a
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Speaker 2: starting pitcher in the big leagues. But we haven't seen
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Speaker 2: Justin Robleski yet for a reason, and the Dodgers have
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Speaker 2: said that they're going to start the season with using
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Speaker 2: kind of a six man hybrid rotation. Justin Rableski very
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Speaker 2: good spring will be in that piggyback role that is
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Speaker 2: designed for the In case rokiy Sasaki looks like spring training,
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Speaker 2: here comes Justin Rabluski to the rescue. And the Dodgers
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Speaker 2: have not said that they've played it kind of koi.
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Speaker 2: But let's read between the lines. Roki Susaki through a
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Speaker 2: bullpen on Saturday, regularly scheduled. You know who else threw
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Speaker 2: a bullpen on Saturday, gentlemen, Justin Rableski. So the Dodgers
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Speaker 2: are right to say, let's calm down, it's just spring training.
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Speaker 2: We believe in rokises. Of course they're going to say
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Speaker 2: that about their guy, but what's going on behind the
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Speaker 2: scenes will tell you that, you know there is some concern.
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Speaker 2: And they're also correct to do that, because if the
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Speaker 2: Dodgers go out there and don't have a backup plan
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Speaker 2: because Roki has really not given them anything to be
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Speaker 2: confident about, then that's kind of just organization malpractice. So
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Speaker 2: we'll see Roki Sasaki. If it does not go well,
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Speaker 2: Dave Roberts will not hesitate to get to the bullpen
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Speaker 2: for Justin Rabbleski. And the whole reason they had a
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Speaker 2: hybrid pitcher kind of to start was because they weren't
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Speaker 2: sure about show Hayo Tani's pitching progression coming back from
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Speaker 2: the WBC. The good news there es looked fantastic since
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Speaker 2: coming back, so we should see a full strength show
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Speaker 2: hey on Tuesday. But they got to get through Monday first,
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Speaker 2: and that's where Justin Rabluski comes in.
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Speaker 4: All Right, I'm big into conspiracy theories, so tell me
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Speaker 4: if I'm wrong or way off, or I'm maybe pretty
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Speaker 4: close on this one. Roki Sasaki came over from Japan.
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Speaker 4: The Dodgers would love to keep their fingerprint, their not
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Speaker 4: even fingerprint, their stamp in Japan, bringing the best players
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Speaker 4: over because no other team really had a shot at
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Speaker 4: getting Rokie Sasaki.
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Speaker 5: As much as everyone says.
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like maybe this is an automatic? Hey,
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Speaker 4: he was going to start no matter what, because hey,
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Speaker 4: we don't want to ruin our foothold in Japan with
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Speaker 4: other pitchers that are over there. If they see a
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Speaker 4: player comes over, has a little bit of struggles and
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Speaker 4: then gets sent to TRIPLEA, this doesn't look good for us.
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Speaker 2: So I love a conspiracy theory too, but I don't
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Speaker 2: think that's the case necessarily in this stance, because you
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Speaker 2: look at where the Dodgers are, Sasaki coming back and
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Speaker 2: doing what he did in the postseason. They don't have
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Speaker 2: their second in a row World Series championship if Sasaki
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Speaker 2: doesn't come out of the bullpen the way that he did.
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Speaker 2: But thirty minutes after the Dodgers won the World Series,
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Speaker 2: President Baseball Operations Andrew Friedman is on the field at
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Speaker 2: Rogers Center, got a question about what Sasaki's role will
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Speaker 2: be next year, and he said a starter. And the
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Speaker 2: reason for that is again because of the potential, the
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Speaker 2: high ceiling, the skill set. This is one of the
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Speaker 2: best pitchers to come out of Japan. I think there
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Speaker 2: was more hype around him than there was Yamamoto. Baseball's
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Speaker 2: a crazy sport because look at Yamamoto now. And that's
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Speaker 2: given all of Yamamoto's accomplishments in Japan as well. But
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Speaker 2: if you're the Dodgers and we're looking at the actual
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Speaker 2: logistics of their rotation, Blake Snell is on the il,
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Speaker 2: Gavin Stone is on the il outside of River Ryan,
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Speaker 2: who had a great spring, but it's coming off of
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Speaker 2: TJ and the Dodgers are right to monitor his innians limit.
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Speaker 2: He's in triple A right now. They don't really have
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Speaker 2: a lot of depth in their rotation that they feel
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Speaker 2: comfortable pushing in March and April. Now, the Dodgers do
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Speaker 2: have a depth in general, especially compared to other teams,
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Speaker 2: but with Snell and Gavin Stone out, that kind of
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Speaker 2: puts the onus on Roki to be in the rotation
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Speaker 2: no matter what because they need him, especially with the
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Speaker 2: aforementioned point of them not knowing what Shoeotani would look
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Speaker 2: like after the WBC SO Day one of spring training
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Speaker 2: Dave Roberts. Roki Sasaki is going to be in the
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Speaker 2: rotation that was the same case after every single bad start,
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Speaker 2: because quite frankly, they need him. They're lucky to have
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Speaker 2: Justin Robleski available to be in that piggyback role. But
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Speaker 2: you're doing everybody on the team, especially society, a disservice
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Speaker 2: by not starting him at least giving him two to
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Speaker 2: three starts to prove that Spring was an anomaly. If
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Speaker 2: we're still having this conversation in mid April and Justin
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Speaker 2: Erbluski looks as good as he did in Spring, then
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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty obvious to make that switch. But
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Speaker 2: right now, given where each picture is in the Dodgers'
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Speaker 2: depth chart, necessarily it makes sense to have Sasak come
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Speaker 2: in the rotation.
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Speaker 3: Another guy, Will Smith. You talked a little about him
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Speaker 3: on Twitter. It looks like here X, excuse me, how
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Speaker 3: clutch of an athlete he is, how awesome he is.
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Speaker 3: And for me, I feel like people know about him,
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Speaker 3: but do they really know about how good of a
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Speaker 3: baseball player he is. I feel like it goes unnoticed,
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Speaker 3: maybe because I'm on the East Coast and it's out
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Speaker 3: on the West coast. I know the West coast knows,
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Speaker 3: but talk a little bit about him and just how
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Speaker 3: clutch this guy really is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget who said it after Saturday's game, but
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Speaker 2: someone's asked if he was Will Smith was the most
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Speaker 2: like underrated clutch player in baseball, And I think there's
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Speaker 2: a really good argument to be made there because this dude,
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Speaker 2: I think he said fifty three go ahead homers and
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Speaker 2: the regular season in his career, and that's not even
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Speaker 2: counting in all of his postseason accolades. And we were
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Speaker 2: talking to Will after the game, you know, birthday Bobblehead.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of just a given that he was going
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Speaker 2: to have a game like that, go ahead homer in
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Speaker 2: the eighth, win the game. He was just like, I'm
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Speaker 2: just calm in those situations, and I think Will Smith
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Speaker 2: has an innate ability to slow the game down. And
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Speaker 2: you're right that. I think maybe it does go under
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Speaker 2: the radar for a lot of baseball. Maybe it is
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Speaker 2: the West Coast, maybe it's just because of the amount
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Speaker 2: of sheer stars on that team, but Will Smith is
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Speaker 2: very much a member of that star group, and it
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Speaker 2: goes just again under the radar because maybe people just
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Speaker 2: expect the Dodgers to do this. I know I certainly do.
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Speaker 2: All three games, the Dodgers were trailing two to nothing
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Speaker 2: at some point the last two of the series. They
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Speaker 2: were trailing two nothing in the eighth, Guys, I didn't
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Speaker 2: even start writing my story because I knew that lead
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Speaker 2: wouldn't hold. That's just what the Dodgers do. They just
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Speaker 2: win baseball games. And when you have a player likes
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Speaker 2: Will Smith, and honestly, he kind of emblematic of the
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Speaker 2: whole lineup. He's so patient. He spoils pitches, he trusts
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Speaker 2: his swing. He has the speed where he can foul off,
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Speaker 2: spoil off the off speed and wait for the fastball
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Speaker 2: because he knows his swing is fast enough to catch
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Speaker 2: up to one hundred when he gets it. That's kind
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Speaker 2: of the Dodgers all around. They know their swing, they
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Speaker 2: know a pitch they want, and they know they're going
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Speaker 2: to get on base and score, and it just kind
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Speaker 2: of takes all the pressure out of it. Will Smith
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Speaker 2: is the perfect example of that all.
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Speaker 4: Right overreaction, which is more of an overreaction. The Dodgers
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Speaker 4: will win one hundred and twenty games, or Kyle Tucker
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Speaker 4: will hit below two thirty this year.
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Speaker 2: Oh, Kyle Tucker is that's an over He's he's He's
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Speaker 2: a perfect Dodger. I mean, he's done everything that the
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Speaker 2: Dodgers need him to do already. I love that moment
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Speaker 2: for him on Friday's win, delivering that key hit to
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Speaker 2: win the game and then sets the table for ed
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Speaker 2: the Edwin Diaz first save opportunity. The Dodgers could though
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Speaker 2: very much. You know, when you say one twenty, you're
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Speaker 2: just kind of like, come on, nobody does that, And
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Speaker 2: after three games you're like, maybe this team, maybe this
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Speaker 2: team can do that. But as far as what Kyle
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Speaker 2: Tucker has brought early returns, I mean, he is the
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Speaker 2: number two hitter on the best lineup in baseball, and
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Speaker 2: what that's really allowed to do. I think Mookie Betts
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Speaker 2: really enjoys me in the three hole now and it's
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Speaker 2: kind of slotted everybody down. Friddy Freeman is hitting fifth
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Speaker 2: against lefties. That's never really happened in his career before.
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Speaker 2: It just elongates that lineup and makes it so much
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Speaker 2: more dangerous. I think we're going to see a huge
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Speaker 2: year out of Kyle Tucker, and I think we're going
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Speaker 2: to get baseball is going to maybe twenty nine. Other
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Speaker 2: fan bases are going to get very tired of seeing
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Speaker 2: the same headline over and over.
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Speaker 4: Dodgers win all right, Well, I want to I want
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Speaker 4: a little for those on the podcast crowd. I'm drinking
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Speaker 4: some water, but this is Katie Woo drinking the kool
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Speaker 4: aid and dog.
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Speaker 5: Mean, you've been there for, you've been there for.
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Speaker 4: You've been there for like three minutes and you're already
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Speaker 4: sounding like Alana Rizzo.
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Speaker 6: But either way, hear me out.
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Speaker 2: I am watching a different rent level of baseball, and
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Speaker 2: there's I have so much respect for the Saint Louis Cardinals,
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Speaker 2: where you know, I spent the last five years and
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Speaker 2: they're rebuilding and it's just a different quality of baseball
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Speaker 2: and I'm enjoying seeing come from behind wins. So you know,
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Speaker 2: we can circle back in May. Maybe Rochie does have
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Speaker 2: a horrendous April, or maybe that pitching up isn't as
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Speaker 2: deep as we think. Maybe some guys slump. I personally
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Speaker 2: just don't see it. I'm high on life. Guys. It's
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Speaker 2: March thirtieth. Let's let's live a little.
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Speaker 3: I love that.
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Speaker 5: What what is their weakness?
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Speaker 4: What is their weakness? Because when you look at the
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Speaker 4: lineup as a non like you don't, I don't watch
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Speaker 4: the Dodgers every day. You watch the lineup and you're like,
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Speaker 4: I I was feeling for Zack Gown. Zack Gown I
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Speaker 4: think is a really good picture. But the first night
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Speaker 4: he's out there and it's like a Hi, we got this,
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Speaker 4: and then Miguel Rojas gets a hit and you're like, oh, crap,
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Speaker 4: back to the top of the order again. So what
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Speaker 4: is the weakness of this team?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, face that lineup third time through at
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Speaker 2: your own risk. Even Andy Pa has a star. But
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Speaker 2: I think the weakness does go. It's health, specifically with
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Speaker 2: that rotation. Blake Snell. I don't think there's a true
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Speaker 2: timetable for him. Maybe mid May earlier would be better
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Speaker 2: for the Dodgers. But if you have one more starter
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Speaker 2: kind of hit the IL or have a setback, it
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Speaker 2: becomes a little dicey because they do have guys they
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Speaker 2: can use again. You can use Rableski and I think
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Speaker 2: we're going to see him as a starter a lot.
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Speaker 2: You can use River Ryan, but you really want to
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Speaker 2: be cautious coming back from TJ and you don't want
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Speaker 2: to overuse him, especially early in the season when pitching
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Speaker 2: injuries are the most common for that time of year.
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Speaker 2: And Emma Chian I don't want to nitpick after one start,
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Speaker 2: but the villa has been a little down, and there's
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Speaker 2: hasn't been a lot of command or sustainability of the stuff.
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Speaker 2: First inning has looked great, second third for the command
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Speaker 2: or the villo has dropped a little bit. So if
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Speaker 2: I'm nitpicking there, I think the weakness of this Dodgers
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Speaker 2: team would be just making sure that the starting pitching
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Speaker 2: stays healthy. Before the season started, I would have said
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Speaker 2: the bullpen. But the bullpen is through eleven and two
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Speaker 2: thirds scorelessenings, so maybe not. But I do think it
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Speaker 2: comes down to pitching health and keeping that rotation healthy,
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Speaker 2: because if the rotation isn't healthy, you start overtaxing the bullpen,
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Speaker 2: and that's what the Dodgers did last year and it
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Speaker 2: did create a lot of problems down the stretch for them.
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of a cop out to say health
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Speaker 2: because all thirty teams need health, but for this Dodgers
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Speaker 2: team in particular, the rotation is so so important. It
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Speaker 2: has the potential to be one of the best they've
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Speaker 2: ever assembled if they can stay healthy, because right now
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Speaker 2: the depth is a little thinner than I think most
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Speaker 2: people perceive.
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Speaker 4: Hi, Katie, last question, We're at the end of March
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Speaker 4: right now. Before you were in Saint Louis. Compare Saint
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Speaker 4: Louis the end of March to LA at the end
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Speaker 4: of March. Is that why you have the glowing, effervescent
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Speaker 4: smile that.
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Speaker 5: You have today.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm just happy to be here with you guys. Well,
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Speaker 2: I did tan yesterday, so that probably helps. That's the
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Speaker 2: biggest difference. I went to the beach on our random
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Speaker 2: Sunday off day yesterday, where that would not have been
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Speaker 2: the case late March in Saint Louis. But I do
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Speaker 2: miss that town and I'm excited for what's next here
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Speaker 2: in LA obviously. And yeah, I mean I'm looking out
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Speaker 2: right now, a little coastal breeze coming in through my
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Speaker 2: open window. I would not have an open window for
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Speaker 2: like ten months out of the year in Saint Louis,
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Speaker 2: so there's a plus there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, those are facts that go beyond baseball, and there's
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Speaker 1: really not much that's going to change on that front.
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Speaker 1: The weather is the weather. So Katie, well, it's great
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Speaker 1: to see you. Thank you for joining us. We'll be
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Speaker 1: talking again soon and everyone go check out Katie on Dodgers' territory.
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Speaker 1: And all the articles that she's rolling on the Athletic
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Speaker 1: Talk Soon.
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Speaker 2: You got it, guys, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Dodgers Territory with Clint, Alana, Katie and many special
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Speaker 1: guests throughout the season. They are so good at what
15:42
Speaker 1: they do part of the FT Networks if you want
15:44
Speaker 1: more on the Dodgers. Just reminding everyone we have tons
15:48
Speaker 1: of shows on the FT Network. This is one of
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Speaker 1: the originals and it's great. The host of our new
15:54
Speaker 1: Brewers show, which we're very excited about Brewer Territory, Kurt.
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Speaker 1: Great to have you on more of the same basically
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Speaker 1: from the Brewers going back to the last regular season.
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Speaker 1: So some up what you saw and you can of
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Speaker 1: course include the great comeback win for them over what
16:08
Speaker 1: you know, some people think it's going to be a
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Speaker 1: better White Sox team, but the Brewers made them look
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Speaker 1: like they were a level down.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you said, it was more of the same. They
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Speaker 5: kind of were pesky for three straight games. They drew
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Speaker 5: ten walks on opening day, they put up i think
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Speaker 5: six runs then in the second game, and then obviously
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Speaker 5: had a six run eighth inning yesterday. Christian Yelich with
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Speaker 5: the big homer. It wasn't just the homer, though, it
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Speaker 5: was South Freely having nine pitch at bats. It was
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Speaker 5: Blake Perkins, you know, drawing a walk in a big spot,
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Speaker 5: Luis ran Heifo getting that eighth inning two, Christian Yelich
16:43
Speaker 5: with with a big hit. So this this is what
16:46
Speaker 5: we saw from them last year when they won ninety
16:48
Speaker 5: seven games. So it's not entirely surprising considering the lineups
16:51
Speaker 5: basically the same as last year, but it was it
16:54
Speaker 5: was still an impressive offensive performance. You know, you can
16:57
Speaker 5: put the White Sox caveat on there, but look like
17:00
Speaker 5: they had good They threw good arm Shane Smith's a
17:02
Speaker 5: good arm k from the left side. Look good. They've
17:04
Speaker 5: got some nasty dudes in the bullpen. So you know,
17:07
Speaker 5: what else do you want him to do besides beat
17:09
Speaker 5: up on the White Sox.
17:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very true. I want to talk about one
17:13
Speaker 3: guy in particular, the miz talk about him a little
17:17
Speaker 3: bit and explain how the Brewers if he gets the
17:19
Speaker 3: performances like that, it's going to be a really good
17:22
Speaker 3: season for them.
17:23
Speaker 5: Yeah. And the crazy thing and Corey Cainnabel and I
17:26
Speaker 5: were talking about this on our live show after Opening
17:29
Speaker 5: Day on ber territory was like he struck out eleven guys.
17:32
Speaker 5: He gave up one run on the leadoff homer, and
17:34
Speaker 5: it wasn't even the most dominant or even close to
17:37
Speaker 5: the most dominant we've seen from his pure stuff. There
17:41
Speaker 5: was some bouts with the control a little bit. We've
17:44
Speaker 5: seen that with him. The fastball wasn't quite popping at
17:48
Speaker 5: one hundred and one oh one. He was kind of
17:49
Speaker 5: living in that ninety seven ninety eight range and still
17:53
Speaker 5: got I think like nineteen or twenty whiffs on the fastball.
17:56
Speaker 5: So I think that's an encouraging sign because there's going
18:00
Speaker 5: to be a lot on this guy's shoulders this season.
18:02
Speaker 5: It's a young, inexperienced rotation. We saw that with Brandon
18:04
Speaker 5: Sproden Sunday's game. He got hit around pretty hard. So
18:08
Speaker 5: MS is gonna have to find ways to be a pitcher,
18:10
Speaker 5: to work deeper into games and maybe not always just
18:14
Speaker 5: overpower guys with one hundred and find different ways to
18:19
Speaker 5: slice and dice you up.
18:21
Speaker 4: Hi, christian Yalwich, you mentioned his big three run homer
18:23
Speaker 4: that put him over the top in the eighth. He's
18:26
Speaker 4: six for ten for the weekend. I know we're a
18:29
Speaker 4: lot of overreactions. But my question to you is, starts
18:33
Speaker 4: out six for ten. Is there a world where he's
18:37
Speaker 4: a more successful player if he only plays one hundred
18:40
Speaker 4: and thirty five games? And will Christian Yelich allow Murph
18:44
Speaker 4: to only put him in for one hundred and thirty
18:46
Speaker 4: five games or is it fine if he just plays
18:48
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty two and see if he blows out.
18:52
Speaker 5: I think it's somewhere in the middle one hundred and
18:54
Speaker 5: thirty five for a guy like Yelich who takes his
18:57
Speaker 5: role seriously, takes his contract in Milwaukee seriously. If he's healthy,
19:03
Speaker 5: it's not going to be one sixty. But whether it's
19:05
Speaker 5: pinchit opportunities like the one he had yesterday, or just
19:10
Speaker 5: you know, playing at DH just about every day, he'll
19:13
Speaker 5: probably land in the one forty five to one fifty range.
19:16
Speaker 5: They like to find their days for him. You know,
19:18
Speaker 5: when they're healthy. They have plenty of depth, so you
19:20
Speaker 5: can pick a spot against the lefty here, pick a
19:22
Speaker 5: spot there, and you don't have to play him in
19:25
Speaker 5: the field too much. But it's interesting because like this
19:28
Speaker 5: spring this maybe goes to show you how much spring
19:31
Speaker 5: training matter is. Actually it definitely goes to show you
19:33
Speaker 5: how much spring training matters to veteran guys like this.
19:35
Speaker 5: He was searching for it, like going back between the
19:38
Speaker 5: old leg kick krats, you know that one. You saw
19:41
Speaker 5: that one up close, the leg kick, and then he's
19:43
Speaker 5: been doing the toe tap recently, so he was kind
19:45
Speaker 5: of work shopping with Dan vogelback like what do I
19:48
Speaker 5: want to do here? And it didn't look good the spring.
19:52
Speaker 5: The timing was off. He he had I think, like
19:54
Speaker 5: two hits all spring, and then it comes up with
19:58
Speaker 5: with maybe what's going to be the moment of the
19:59
Speaker 5: regular season already on day three with the with the homer,
20:02
Speaker 5: and you kind of saw some of that that. I
20:05
Speaker 5: don't know if it's frustration, but like there was some
20:07
Speaker 5: emotion on the homer yesterday where he had the bat drop.
20:10
Speaker 5: He kind of just stared at it, stared into the
20:12
Speaker 5: dugout and you don't see that a ton from him.
20:13
Speaker 5: So it clearly meant something to him to hit that
20:17
Speaker 5: homer yesterday. Every every one of the games means something
20:21
Speaker 5: to Christiano.
20:22
Speaker 4: That's why the dudes played for years with back pain
20:24
Speaker 4: and finally needed to get back surgery. But anyway, we're
20:27
Speaker 4: gonna go on to other injuries. Andrew Vaughn now out
20:31
Speaker 4: with the Hamdmaid and obviously Jackson Cheerio out. Is there
20:36
Speaker 4: a world where there's an injury to this lineup that says, ugh, like,
20:42
Speaker 4: this is a little too much, because when Jackson Cheerio's out,
20:45
Speaker 4: I don't care who you put in there. Blake Perkins
20:49
Speaker 4: can't be Jackson Cherio for an entire season. But is
20:52
Speaker 4: there a world where they say, Okay, this injury is
20:56
Speaker 4: the one that's gonna break our back because now they're
20:59
Speaker 4: calling up a third cat. Sure, Gary Sanchaz hits a
21:01
Speaker 4: Homer on Sunday, so you're like, of course, of course
21:05
Speaker 4: everything can just continue to go the Brewer's way.
21:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I don't think this. I think the
21:12
Speaker 5: way this offense is is there's no singular injury that
21:15
Speaker 5: would break them jet. When you have Chario down and
21:18
Speaker 5: when you have Von down, it's at that point where
21:20
Speaker 5: you're like, okay, if one of these guys goes down
21:24
Speaker 5: and you start to think about, you know, some of
21:27
Speaker 5: the spots where they don't have as much depth, where
21:29
Speaker 5: whether it's Bryce terrang or William Contrero's those are probably
21:32
Speaker 5: the two biggest guys where it's like they need them
21:35
Speaker 5: as much as they can to play as much as
21:38
Speaker 5: they can, and those guys have been generally healthy so far.
21:41
Speaker 5: That's where this offense is at. But like like you said, Kratz,
21:47
Speaker 5: this is the Brewers they have. I think they're like
21:49
Speaker 5: twenty two and eight with Cherio on the injured list
21:53
Speaker 5: the last two years. Some of that is, you know,
21:55
Speaker 5: good luck, and some of it is this is what
21:59
Speaker 5: this is what happened, and they have a system in
22:02
Speaker 5: place and you call the next guy up and somehow, someway,
22:06
Speaker 5: you just keep winning ball games by a combination of
22:08
Speaker 5: the way they play offense and base running and good
22:12
Speaker 5: defense and then generally good pitching.
22:14
Speaker 4: Was it Jackson Curio il stint a surprise because of
22:18
Speaker 4: the fact that it happened in their exhibition WBC games
22:22
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, bang were read at
22:24
Speaker 4: the start of the season and he goes on the.
22:26
Speaker 5: IL, Yeah, this wasn't great, not great, because you know,
22:30
Speaker 5: we were down in spring training as asking Murph about it,
22:33
Speaker 5: and he was joking I should use air quotes with that,
22:36
Speaker 5: because I don't know how much of it was really
22:37
Speaker 5: joke where he was like texting the you know, Venezuela
22:40
Speaker 5: or the front office or whatever, send him home. And
22:44
Speaker 5: at the time they you know, they did X rays
22:46
Speaker 5: on the hand and there was nothing. And then he
22:48
Speaker 5: came back to the Brewers spring training. At the very
22:50
Speaker 5: end did x rays. All seemed like a bruise, but
22:53
Speaker 5: further imaging for all the doctors in the house revealed
22:56
Speaker 5: a hairline fracture. And they didn't do that until after
23:00
Speaker 5: the exhibition games last week when his hands started to hurt.
23:02
Speaker 5: So yeah, definitely a surprise, and definitely you know, like
23:06
Speaker 5: like it's not the WBC's fault that he got hurt.
23:08
Speaker 5: This stuff's gonna happen in spring training game. Guys are
23:10
Speaker 5: going to get hit in the hand. He did get
23:12
Speaker 5: hit in a spring training game. It was an exhibition
23:14
Speaker 5: game against I think the Nationals. So this stuff is
23:19
Speaker 5: going to happen. But it's not optimal that he then
23:22
Speaker 5: played three weeks on it. From a Brewer standpoint, obviously,
23:27
Speaker 5: I think if you're asking Churio or anyone from Venezuela,
23:30
Speaker 5: they are like, yeah, that's fine, that's that's a fair
23:32
Speaker 5: trade off. We won the whole thing. It's just a
23:35
Speaker 5: couple of weeks in Milwaukee. But I'm sure the Brewers
23:37
Speaker 5: aren't super thrilled that he kind of played through it
23:41
Speaker 5: all and then they found out that it's actually fractured.
23:45
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to Kyle Harrison, the big piece
23:49
Speaker 4: that was brought over in the trade for Freddie P.
23:52
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for the trade for yes, for it's okay.
23:57
Speaker 4: It's a lot of trades, a lot of trades, track,
24:00
Speaker 4: there's a lot of trades. But Kyle Harrison has more
24:02
Speaker 4: pressure on him if he was traded for Freddy P.
24:05
Speaker 4: So sorry about that, Jet Williams and Sproke. But Kyle
24:09
Speaker 4: Harrison's starting tonight and this first start. Is there any
24:15
Speaker 4: indications that Chris Hook, the pitching coach, has given you
24:19
Speaker 4: in a sense of like what do they need to
24:21
Speaker 4: see from him that would say, Okay, there's a successful
24:24
Speaker 4: month of spring training that he's adopted X, Y or Z.
24:31
Speaker 5: So much of it for the Brewers, and with Hook,
24:33
Speaker 5: comes down to not necessarily what you see on the mound,
24:36
Speaker 5: but what you see in the four or five days
24:39
Speaker 5: in between the preparation, the work, the routine, Like how
24:45
Speaker 5: do you react to failure? I mean, frankly, that's something
24:48
Speaker 5: they'll need to see from him in the first two
24:50
Speaker 5: months as well. They're going to see it with Brandon
24:52
Speaker 5: Sprote right now. This feels very similar to twenty nineteen
24:58
Speaker 5: when it was Burns, it was Wildriff, Peralta, and two
25:01
Speaker 5: out of those three guys had really bad years. Corbyn
25:05
Speaker 5: was sent down to the miners, gave up a billion
25:07
Speaker 5: home runs, and Freddie went down to the miners as well,
25:11
Speaker 5: and those guys responded, And now the Brewers have a
25:13
Speaker 5: little more of a system in place of how to
25:16
Speaker 5: win games, how to develop these guys. And that's not
25:20
Speaker 5: to say that Kyle, Harrison and brand Sperder are going
25:22
Speaker 5: to end up like Woody and Peralta and Burns, because
25:25
Speaker 5: that's a pretty dang high bar to clear. But they
25:29
Speaker 5: want to see them get through the season, get through
25:32
Speaker 5: the work, get through the failure, in a similar way
25:35
Speaker 5: to some of the guys that have done that for
25:38
Speaker 5: them in the past and then ended up having success,
25:40
Speaker 5: whether that was Ashby or Quinn Priesser or Woodie or Burns,
25:42
Speaker 5: like all these guys failed at some point and then
25:44
Speaker 5: turned out to be really good pitchers.
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Speaker 3: And that is definitely true. My question to you now,
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Speaker 3: Talk a little about that. How do you see the
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Speaker 3: Brewers stacking up? I know they went three and zero
26:44
Speaker 3: against the team that wasn't very good. They got some
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Speaker 3: big games coming up. Talk to me about you know,
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Speaker 3: what do you think their likes are of being the
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Speaker 5: It feels like we're doing the same thing over and
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Speaker 5: over with the Brewers and the Central where they kind
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Speaker 5: of don't have the flashiest offseason. They don't have the
27:02
Speaker 5: flashiest offseason. It feels like they give away more than
27:04
Speaker 5: they get back, and then we look up in August
27:08
Speaker 5: and they're in a great spot. And that's kind of
27:09
Speaker 5: what I'm expecting again this year. The Cubs have, you know,
27:14
Speaker 5: you look at that roster on paper, it's a pretty
27:17
Speaker 5: dang good roster and they should be able to make
27:18
Speaker 5: some noise. We'll see. We'll see on the Pirates, we'll
27:21
Speaker 5: see on the Reds, but you kind of it feels
27:26
Speaker 5: like it boils down to a two horse race again
27:28
Speaker 5: at this point. Again, we don't want to get too
27:30
Speaker 5: read too much into a three and zero start against
27:32
Speaker 5: the White Sox. But the Brewers did look a lot
27:35
Speaker 5: in those three games like they did last summer when
27:38
Speaker 5: they were, you know, beating the world. So that's what
27:42
Speaker 5: I'm expecting. I'm expecting those two teams, and it will
27:46
Speaker 5: be tricky to see, Like if the Pirates, I think
27:49
Speaker 5: there's a lot of upside there, but can you hang
27:51
Speaker 5: Can you hang with a team that has such a
27:53
Speaker 5: winning pedigree for six months? That's tricky.
27:56
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this the start for the Brewish or
27:59
Speaker 1: beats the start for the Brewers last year the Torpedo
28:02
Speaker 1: Series for them when they were torpedoed by the Yankees.
28:05
Speaker 1: So this is much rosier. They're already putting together a
28:09
Speaker 1: much friendlier weekend for their fans coming off the sweep
28:13
Speaker 1: of the White Sox. Okay, my question to you is
28:16
Speaker 1: about something we didn't really get to hit last week.
28:18
Speaker 1: It came out and missed a million other things around
28:21
Speaker 1: opening day. Mark Otznasio, owner of the Brewers, said they're
28:24
Speaker 1: losing about twenty million dollars with the switchover to working
28:28
Speaker 1: with MLB on their broadcast rights this year versus what
28:31
Speaker 1: they were going to get from the Main Street Sports Group.
28:34
Speaker 1: How much do you think that hurt the Brewers when
28:36
Speaker 1: they were going through their offseason or do they not
28:39
Speaker 1: even really factor that into the way they do off
28:41
Speaker 1: seasons anymore. I know this isn't going to be a
28:45
Speaker 1: topic probably until September October, either if the team misses
28:49
Speaker 1: the playoffs or if they get bounced and don't win
28:51
Speaker 1: a World Series. But if I'm a Brewers fan and
28:54
Speaker 1: I feel like this is our winning window to win.
28:56
Speaker 1: And I know some Brewers fans go crazy about this,
28:58
Speaker 1: but I think they should put the pedal to the medal.
29:01
Speaker 1: I want that one other starter that would have cost
29:03
Speaker 1: me that kind of twenty thirty million bucks that can
29:06
Speaker 1: win you a few playoff games in October.
29:10
Speaker 5: Yeah. The answer we got on opening Day when this
29:14
Speaker 5: came up was like, oh, well, is that sure that
29:16
Speaker 5: affected your off season, right? And the answer was not really,
29:19
Speaker 5: because the way the Brewers operate, you know, they're unsurprisingly
29:23
Speaker 5: in a great spot organizationally in terms of finances and
29:27
Speaker 5: the value versus the debt and all that sort of
29:30
Speaker 5: financial mumbo jumbo. But look, the Brews didn't doing a
29:35
Speaker 5: whole heck of a lot in terms of using any
29:38
Speaker 5: sort of financial muscle this offseason. Yeah, they they extended
29:42
Speaker 5: the qualifying offer to brand Woodruff and you know, a
29:45
Speaker 5: twenty two million dollar salary for a starting Pitchering Malwache.
29:47
Speaker 5: That's not that's not nothing. That's the most they've ever
29:49
Speaker 5: paid a starter over a single season. But look, you
29:52
Speaker 5: look at their offseason and their payroll went up like
29:54
Speaker 5: five six sish million, which was like four per four
29:57
Speaker 5: or five percent up from last year. That's not quite
30:01
Speaker 5: on par with what we usually see from teams that
30:05
Speaker 5: made it to the NLCS. You know, you get that
30:07
Speaker 5: long playoff run, you get a little more revenue, and
30:10
Speaker 5: teams generally bump their payroll somewhere like nine ten percent.
30:14
Speaker 5: I think it was when I when I ran some
30:16
Speaker 5: of those numbers this offseason. So whether it affected them
30:21
Speaker 5: or not, we like they say no, and that's kind
30:24
Speaker 5: of all we have to go off. But I think
30:26
Speaker 5: I think your right, Scott, that coming off an NLCS appearance,
30:31
Speaker 5: you don't have to mortgage necessarily the future. You don't
30:35
Speaker 5: have to blow it up and make or not necessarily
30:38
Speaker 5: blow up, blow up the farm system and make all
30:40
Speaker 5: these all in trades. That's not how they operate, but
30:43
Speaker 5: there are certainly ways to flex a little more finances.
30:48
Speaker 5: And the Brewers are, you know, like they're the smallest
30:50
Speaker 5: market in baseball. They'll tell you that they punch above
30:52
Speaker 5: their weight compared to some other teams, and for sure,
30:54
Speaker 5: we got to give them credit on that front. But
30:57
Speaker 5: you know, whether it's like go trade for Luis Roberts
31:00
Speaker 5: or sign a sign Harrison batter, you know, it's just
31:04
Speaker 5: just those coats. A couple of examples that come to mind.
31:08
Speaker 5: They clearly were not in a incredible financial spot this offseason,
31:13
Speaker 5: and maybe some of that was due to the TV,
31:16
Speaker 5: and maybe some of it was due to this is
31:18
Speaker 5: sort of just how they upreak.
31:20
Speaker 4: All right, Can you glean a couple of your favorite
31:23
Speaker 4: parts of the article? I guess is that cannibalism if
31:26
Speaker 4: you like your own favorite parts of a column that
31:28
Speaker 4: you wrote. No, that's like wordsm whatever it is about
31:32
Speaker 4: its hous ego.
31:34
Speaker 5: That's what it is.
31:35
Speaker 4: Cannibalism is not the same thing.
31:36
Speaker 5: Okay, good?
31:37
Speaker 4: You know basically it said, you know, it says how
31:40
Speaker 4: South Freelik's war cry has come to define the Brewers.
31:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like, my favorite parts weren't anything I wrote.
31:48
Speaker 5: It was talking to Sally yesterday after the game, like
31:51
Speaker 5: the players were all kind of hanging out, and I
31:53
Speaker 5: waited him out a little bit and then come up
31:55
Speaker 5: to him. He's just talking like he's just talking about
31:57
Speaker 5: how he's yelling drag him, drag him with you. And
32:01
Speaker 5: it's like quintessential sal basically. And it's just interesting that
32:05
Speaker 5: like this not only works for the Brewers, but they
32:09
Speaker 5: have embraced it as an entire team one through nine like,
32:14
Speaker 5: it's hard to have nine guys buy into being South Freelink,
32:19
Speaker 5: and the Brewers, I think like mentally have nine guys
32:22
Speaker 5: in the lineup that are basically buying into you know,
32:25
Speaker 5: they're not South Freelink, no one really is, but they
32:29
Speaker 5: are buying into the same mentality that he has at
32:31
Speaker 5: the plate, which isn't necessarily like the goal isn't to
32:35
Speaker 5: make you throw a billion pitches, but if we get behind,
32:40
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make you throw a billion pitches. I'm just
32:42
Speaker 5: gonna make you work, and that kind of you can
32:45
Speaker 5: see how that applies to various areas of the Brewers
32:48
Speaker 5: as well, And like you pay a little attention to
32:51
Speaker 5: these details and you start to see a little bit
32:53
Speaker 5: of how they keep out performing what we think they're
32:57
Speaker 5: gonna do year in and year out.
33:01
Speaker 1: Well, I love it. Yeah, they've got great personalities there.
33:04
Speaker 1: We love talking a lot of these Brewers.
33:06
Speaker 5: Guys.
33:06
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Speaker 5: Fellas thanks