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The DiCecco Daily Postgame Show: Intel, Locker Room Insights From Eagles Surprising Loss To Giants · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Everybody?
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: Welcome into this edition of the Czech Odaily. It's Andrew
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: de Checko and doing this podcast early in the morning,
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: so I'm waking up a little bit. But it doesn't
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: necessarily have me feeling any differently than I did yesterday
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: when the Eagles lost to the New York Giants thirty
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: four to seventeen. There's a lot to take away and
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: probably the eagles worst loss since the Arizona Cardinals in
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and they went into this game as
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: over seven point favorites. I don't know the exact number,
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  Speaker 2: but the New York this seemed to be the get
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: right spot for this football team, coming off that loss
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: against the Denver Broncos four days ago, and you wanted
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: to see the offense come together. And when they were
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: talks this week about a conversation that took place with
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, with Saquon Barkley being there and aj Brown
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: as well, that's where you start to get the sense, Okay,
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: is this going to be the turning point where this
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: is the get right spot and the offense takes shape
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: and becomes what we're all expecting it to see. This
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  Speaker 2: was a great spot for the Eagles to open things
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  Speaker 2: up in the passing game, as the New York Giants
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: don't really have a lot of defensive backs that are
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: able to stop what they're looking to do and to
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  Speaker 2: be able to bottle up the kind of talent that
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: the Eagles have on the offensive side. But as it were,
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: the Giants went into this game. They were not afraid,
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: They didn't waiver, and it almost seemed like they had
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  Speaker 2: the chip on their shoulder coming into it.
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  Speaker 1: They played more physically than the Eagles.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: They played with more toughness, and you don't often say
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: that about a Nick Sirianni coach team, but they also
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: play with more detail as well. When you come into
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: it and you're the Giants and you don't have a
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of people out there that are
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  Speaker 2: believing that you're gonna win this game, you're not really
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  Speaker 2: giving much of a chance.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart rookie quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: The wide receivers were Wandell Robinson, Jalen Hyatt, Bo Collins.
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  Speaker 2: They had Theo Johnson the tight end from Penn State.
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  Speaker 2: The offensive lion wasn't particularly good except for Andrew Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: So on paper, the Eagles should have been able to
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  Speaker 2: put up forty points, get the backups into the game
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  Speaker 2: and move on. Now, if you ask any player, these guys,
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: every team gets paid.
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  Speaker 1: To make plays too, So you can't.
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  Speaker 2: No one's gonna roll over just because the Eagles are
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  Speaker 2: coming into town, or just because the Eagles are on
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  Speaker 2: the schedule.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna get every team's best.
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  Speaker 2: And that's something that we talked about throughout the summer,
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  Speaker 2: and I really do believe that every team has this game.
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  Speaker 1: Circled and they wanted to go out there.
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  Speaker 2: But offense, they start the game off with runs of
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  Speaker 2: eighteen and thirteen yards for Saquon Barkley. Saquon looks good.
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  Speaker 2: Then they have to do they have to on a
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  Speaker 2: third and ten. I don't remember exactly where they were,
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  Speaker 2: they were, maybe out at the twenty. They have to
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  Speaker 2: settle for a field goal because they throw a five
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  Speaker 2: yard pass short of the sticks to Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: Goddard didn't like the aggressiveness there.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they could have maybe built off of that
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  Speaker 2: and kept going because they had that Giants defense reeling.
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  Speaker 2: Then the Giants on the next drive, Jackson Dart his escapability,
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  Speaker 2: the wizard like movements maneuvering the pocket. He eluded Disasojilari
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  Speaker 2: on one occasion, who started this game, by the way
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  Speaker 2: for the Eagles, and he was able to get the
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  Speaker 2: ball to his wide receivers. Little Jordan Humphrey had a
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  Speaker 2: thirty four yard or on a third and it was
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  Speaker 2: a third down, third and twelve from the Giants forty
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  Speaker 2: four and he gets he lost his Little Jordan Humphrey
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  Speaker 2: Moss's Keeley ringo Wandell Robinson on his thirty five yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Drew mccouba had a lapse on the play and was
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  Speaker 2: unable to get over and wrap him up. So there
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  Speaker 2: were just a lot of shortcomings, a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: that you didn't necessarily see for an extended period of
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  Speaker 2: time throughout the season, but you saw it surface against
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  Speaker 2: the Giants on Thursday Night Football. But Cam Scattibo ninety
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  Speaker 2: eight rushing yards a career high, and he rushed for
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  Speaker 2: three touchdowns. Physical, tough runner, him and Jackson Dart were
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  Speaker 2: the engine that fueled that Giants offense. They took what
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles defense was allowing with Little Jordan Humphrey, with
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  Speaker 2: Wandell Robinson in the passing game and Cam Scattabu kept
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  Speaker 2: the offense on schedule with some positive runs on early downs,
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  Speaker 2: and the Giants, really the Eagles, I should say, played
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  Speaker 2: into the Giant's hand because they were able to to
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: eat the clock and keep the Eagles offense off the
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  Speaker 2: field as much as they could. Now, I want to
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  Speaker 2: fast forward to later in the game, and again, my
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: thoughts are all over the place now because this game
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  Speaker 2: just happened and there's a lot to unpack. But in
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  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, Jalen Hurts and the Eagles offense are
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  Speaker 2: moving down the field and they're fifteen yards away. It's
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  Speaker 2: a second down. It's an out route to the left sideline.
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  Speaker 2: Johan Dotson is the intended target. Jalen Hurst loves to
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  Speaker 2: throw that route through that the only place you can't
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  Speaker 2: throw it is inside. He threw it inside and Giants
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  Speaker 2: cornerback Cordell flat interception returns it sixty eight yards the
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  Speaker 2: other way and they Saquon Barkley tackles them. The Eagles
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  Speaker 2: were down ten at that time, but they could have
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  Speaker 2: cut that deficit down to three instead. Four plays later,
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  Speaker 2: the Giants score and it's Cam Scatibo who is punching
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  Speaker 2: it in. I don't like to pick on the defense
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  Speaker 2: necessarily because I believe it they've been putting some really
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  Speaker 2: challenging spots this season with the offense not being able
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  Speaker 2: to hold up their end. But the tackling was not good.
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  Speaker 2: Drew mccouba struggled and tackling in this game. I would
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  Speaker 2: also say that Keeley Ringo struggled and tackling. They weren't
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  Speaker 2: good enough defending the run. Jordan Davis had a nice game,
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  Speaker 2: but Ty Robinson was sort of washed out on plays.
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  Speaker 2: Moro Jomo washed out on plays, And I go back
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  Speaker 2: every time and watch the game over again. So nothing
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying is definitive, but based off of the initial
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  Speaker 2: watch from the press box, that's how it looked to me.
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  Speaker 2: There was even a time where camp Scottybow got downhill
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  Speaker 2: and put a nice lick on Zach Bonn and jolted
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  Speaker 2: him a little bit backwards. So I just thought the
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  Speaker 2: Giants did a nice job of taking it to the street,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak, and playing that physical style that the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles pride themselves on. But for Kiey Ringo, for example,
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: there are a couple moments in this game. He got
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  Speaker 2: penalized twice and there were moments in this game where
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  Speaker 2: he seemed to let some of those negative plays pile up,
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  Speaker 2: and he wasn't playing like the confident player that I
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: saw at moments against the Buccaneers and the Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: So you have to wonder.
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  Speaker 2: If they look to make a change there for the
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: Vikings game, because I thought when a Dory Jackson came
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  Speaker 2: in and Quinnon Mitchell, we should mention left the game
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  Speaker 2: with the hamstring injury and did not return. But Dory
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  Speaker 2: Jackson goes in and he's able to play, hold it
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  Speaker 2: down and play relatively better than the production.
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  Speaker 1: They were getting out of kille Ringo.
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  Speaker 2: But there was even a moment later in the game
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  Speaker 2: where Reid Blanket Ship and Cooper Dejen collided. Reid has
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: to leave the field, and it's not Sidney Brown, it's
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: Marcus Epsuh comes on the field at safety. So they
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  Speaker 2: had a lot of they were patching things together, and
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  Speaker 2: I think you you see that Quinnon Mitchell is you
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  Speaker 2: can make a case one of maybe three or four
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  Speaker 2: players that the Eagles can least afford to lose because
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  Speaker 2: take him out of the mix and the Eagles are
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  Speaker 2: awfully light at corner and you now have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of depth players, a lot of role players who are
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  Speaker 2: being thrust into prominent roles that they're not ideally suited.
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  Speaker 1: The pass rush on defense has to be better.
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Johnson picked up a sack of Jackson dart as
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  Speaker 2: Izo Jalari started the games that Darius Smith played.
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  Speaker 1: All of them played.
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  Speaker 2: But they're just not able to get home and that
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  Speaker 2: makes life when your secondary is ruining, that makes life
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  Speaker 2: since so difficult, and they're not able.
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  Speaker 1: To build off of that.
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  Speaker 2: The Jonathan Gannet used to always talk about the rush
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  Speaker 2: cover rush, it's a marriage, and right now the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: don't have the pressure from the edge rushers to be
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  Speaker 2: able to help a secondary that wasn't playing their best.
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  Speaker 2: But I've just thought that the Giants won in the trenches.
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  Speaker 2: They bullied the Eagles at the line of scrimmage on
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  Speaker 2: Up offensively, there was poor execution and some point I
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: talked about the interception. There is also another play where
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: the Eagles were down three and Jayalen Hurts, I believe
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: they're at the Eagle zone eleven. He launches a pass
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: to Devonte Smith and it's out of Devonte Smith's reach. Now,
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: this is twice in two weeks that Jyalen Hurts has
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  Speaker 2: been unable to connect with one of his wide receivers
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  Speaker 2: JJ Brown against the Broncos, DeVante Smith against the Giants
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  Speaker 2: in prime time.
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  Speaker 1: And you connect on that.
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  Speaker 2: Play, all of a sudden, you take the lead, and
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  Speaker 2: you change the momentum in that game. So I thought
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: late in that game there were moments that Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 2: would probably like to have back. Also the moment before
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: halftime where there was poor clock management and he didn't
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  Speaker 2: seem to be aware of how much time they actually
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: had left. And that's a collective, but it all starts
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  Speaker 2: with the quarterback, with the leader. They were just disjointed.
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  Speaker 2: And once the Giants struck first, and they proved that
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: the Eagles struck first the field goal, but then once
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  Speaker 2: the Giants were able to punch it in and prove
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  Speaker 2: that they weren't going to be intimidated or they weren't
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  Speaker 2: going to kind of just bow down and let the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Do whatever they wanted.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed to me that the Eagles were not equipped
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  Speaker 2: to match that kind of intensity for that particular game,
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  Speaker 2: and the result is a thirty four to seventeen loss
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  Speaker 2: and unprecedented loss. But any team can get beat on
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  Speaker 2: any given day in the NFL. They are professionals. That's
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  Speaker 2: what happens. But one of the things that I think
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: is worth really keying in on is the running game
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  Speaker 2: still has yet to take shape. Sakwon Barkley talked about that.
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  Speaker 2: He said he's tired of saying after the game, he
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: said this tired of saying how close they are and
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  Speaker 2: that they have to start getting things done.
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  Speaker 1: And they weren't effective again in the ground game.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this extended bye week helps get some players healthier.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: But that is foundationally what the Eagles want to be,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: and until they're able to do that, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be hard to see what this offense can can fully
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  Speaker 2: be when you have one significant facet of their of
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  Speaker 2: their of their core, of their unit, of what they
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: want to do, so not a lot of great to
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  Speaker 2: take away from that. Dallas Goddard had over one hundred
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: yards in over one hundred yards and a touchdown. Good
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: stuff from him. He's been pretty consistent all season long.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, those are just my immediate thoughts. The penalties
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: are still surfacing, but those are my immediate thoughts from
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles loss. They they drop to four and two
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  Speaker 2: in the season and they will pick things back up
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Monday when they approach the Minnesota Vikings week. This has
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  Speaker 2: been to Czecho daily. I'm Andrew to Checho, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to everybody next week.