Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Curtis Sliwa On NYC Loyalty & Not Backing Down In The Mayoral Race
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day a week. Click your ass up the Breakfast Club.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Morning.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Everybody is the j Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
- 0:11Speaker 3: We are the breakfast Club Lawnla Rosa is here as well,
- 0:13Speaker 3: and we got a special guest in the building running
- 0:16Speaker 3: for New York City mayl Ladies and gentlemen, Curtis Sliwa.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Welcome, good morning. How are you feeling this morning?
- 0:22Speaker 2: Where's my beadfast?
- 0:23Speaker 1: No bedfast?
- 0:25Speaker 2: It's a beaffast club without bedfast.
- 0:27Speaker 1: You're not the first person to ask for it, and
- 0:29Speaker 1: I received it.
- 0:29Speaker 2: I got to tell you, I'm the only candidate ever
- 0:31Speaker 2: was locked up on Rikers Island. That's one of the
- 0:33Speaker 2: good things. I had good befits. Oh yeah, pancakes because
- 0:39Speaker 2: the inmates make the breakfast. So if they like you,
- 0:43Speaker 2: you get a good breakfast. If they don't like you,
- 0:45Speaker 2: I would suggest you starve. Oh first thirteen years of
- 0:49Speaker 2: the Guardian Angels, I was getting locked up all the
- 0:52Speaker 2: time by the police. The mayor at that time, Ed
- 0:54Speaker 2: Koch was not a supporter and they were trying to
- 0:58Speaker 2: drive us out of exist. So they figure keep locking
- 1:00Speaker 2: them up and you will eventually eliminate them. But all
- 1:04Speaker 2: they did was strengthen or resolved to go out there
- 1:07Speaker 2: and patrol and protect people, which is what we've been
- 1:09Speaker 2: doing for forty six years here in thirteen countries. Now
- 1:12Speaker 2: in one hundred and thirty cities.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Well, let's let's break it down, because you know where
- 1:16Speaker 3: national a lot of people might not know what the
- 1:17Speaker 3: Guardian Andjews were and what they did and why I
- 1:20Speaker 3: was created. So break down why I was created and
- 1:23Speaker 3: what you guys do for New York City.
- 1:25Speaker 1: And you said around the world.
- 1:26Speaker 2: All the hundreds of thousands of people listening, Now you
- 1:29Speaker 2: got to go to that cult movie classic, The Warriors,
- 1:33Speaker 2: it came out in nineteen seventy nine to understand what
- 1:36Speaker 2: I and the Guardian Angels were dealing with. Gangs everywhere,
- 1:39Speaker 2: especially the Bronx. There were four gang members for every
- 1:42Speaker 2: one police officer, and there were no cops at night
- 1:45Speaker 2: on the subways because of major cutbacks. I was a
- 1:48Speaker 2: knight manager of Mickey B's Mickey D's in the Bronx,
- 1:51Speaker 2: and I convinced and brainwashed my closing crew We're going
- 1:55Speaker 2: to patrol the train at night, the Number four train,
- 1:57Speaker 2: which was nicknamed the Muggers Express. Eventually, after we got
- 2:01Speaker 2: everything started. A lot of people started walking in off
- 2:04Speaker 2: the street, coming into the McDonald's, not for macfrye and
- 2:07Speaker 2: strawberry shakes, but to actually join the Guardian Angels. And
- 2:10Speaker 2: they were coming in from Brooklyn and Queens, and they
- 2:12Speaker 2: were coming in from parts of Manhattan. So we grew,
- 2:15Speaker 2: especially throughout the subway system.
- 2:17Speaker 3: You didn't have guns or knives or so how are
- 2:21Speaker 3: you patrolling?
- 2:22Speaker 2: Well, no weapons, no special powers of privileges. But if
- 2:25Speaker 2: we had to get down and dirty, that's what we
- 2:28Speaker 2: had to do. We had no choice. These gang bangers
- 2:30Speaker 2: would come at you with force. A lot of people say,
- 2:32Speaker 2: why do you still wear that red beret? You know
- 2:35Speaker 2: you're seventy one years old. Well, I'm always in the
- 2:37Speaker 2: subway every day. I'm the only candidate to actually campaign
- 2:40Speaker 2: in the subway. But it's in honor of the six
- 2:42Speaker 2: Guardian Angels who died in a line of duty. Thirty
- 2:45Speaker 2: two were seriously injured, to pay tribute to their sacrifice.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Because we've never asked for a nickel diamond penny from
- 2:51Speaker 2: government or even from the public.
- 2:54Speaker 1: We're a nonprofit though.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Right, yes, nonprofit. Obviously you got to raise money to
- 2:58Speaker 2: pay for the basics but yeah, not talking about multi
- 3:01Speaker 2: millions of dollars. And it's all based on organic principles.
- 3:06Speaker 2: You have a problem in your neighborhood, we come in,
- 3:08Speaker 2: we we train you to patrol your own neighborhood. It's
- 3:11Speaker 2: not like we come in like mercenaries or Hessians. We
- 3:14Speaker 2: believe in self help. We think more communities have got
- 3:18Speaker 2: to be reliant on themselves because government, they are dollars
- 3:22Speaker 2: short in the day late I don't care if it's
- 3:23Speaker 2: a Democrat or Republican. They come in, they promise everything.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Like you see this election cycle and you know at
- 3:29Speaker 2: the end of it, depending on who gets elected mayor,
- 3:32Speaker 2: you're not gonna get anywhere near what all the promises
- 3:35Speaker 2: are right before the final voters cast on November before.
- 3:38Speaker 4: Why doesn't that apply to you though, because some people
- 3:40Speaker 4: will say the same thing like, oh, you know you
- 3:41Speaker 4: might be out here blaunch smog of everybody asked, well.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Okay, but I've been consistent, Curtis, Curtis deceive for Curtis's
- 3:50Speaker 2: consistent all forty six years that I've led the Guardian Angels.
- 3:54Speaker 2: When I ran against Eric Adams in twenty twenty one,
- 3:57Speaker 2: did I not tell you there would be k. I
- 4:00Speaker 2: s in corruption with Eric Adams, who I knew over
- 4:02Speaker 2: forty years, and look one in done. Imagine a sitting
- 4:06Speaker 2: mayor and incumbent mayor who isn't able to run for
- 4:10Speaker 2: re election. And that's why you have zon On mondami
- 4:13Speaker 2: a year ago, not even his neighbors knew who Zoron
- 4:16Speaker 2: Mondamie was.
- 4:17Speaker 1: In February was pulling at one percent.
- 4:18Speaker 2: That's it. And then remember two months out he was
- 4:21Speaker 2: forty percent down to Angel Cuomo, who would make a
- 4:24Speaker 2: perfect zombie. You know with Halloween coming up. Nobody likes
- 4:28Speaker 2: this guy. This guy fled Albany because he feared impeachment
- 4:32Speaker 2: to go out to the Hamptons with his billionaire friends.
- 4:35Speaker 2: But I will tell you this, if Eric had done
- 4:37Speaker 2: a halfway decent job, it would have been round two
- 4:40Speaker 2: Eric Adams incumbent Democrat versus Republican Curtis Sliwa, and then
- 4:44Speaker 2: the voters would have determined who the next mayor is.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Now, what do you think we're wrong?
- 4:48Speaker 2: Say?
- 4:48Speaker 3: You said you've seen it coming, So what did you
- 4:50Speaker 3: see right.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Out the box? I'm the swaggerman. I called him with
- 4:54Speaker 2: no plan. He was out of nightclubs at the break
- 4:57Speaker 2: of Dawn Consol up in the Bronx at four o'clock
- 5:02Speaker 2: in the morning. I knew some of some of the
- 5:04Speaker 2: staff people, some of the women who have to get
- 5:06Speaker 2: home to get their kids up, to send him to
- 5:08Speaker 2: school because their single parents running the household. Mister Mayor,
- 5:13Speaker 2: you know, we got to close up. It's four o'clock
- 5:14Speaker 2: because you know how a club is, it's like a casino.
- 5:17Speaker 2: They don't want you to look out out the window.
- 5:20Speaker 2: And he was he was always very respectful. But this
- 5:24Speaker 2: guy would go from nightclub to nightclub. And he loved
- 5:27Speaker 2: that tag Swagerman. That's why I call him swagger Man
- 5:30Speaker 2: with no plan? And now what plan does he have?
- 5:33Speaker 2: And notice he was embraced by Trump and then he
- 5:37Speaker 2: sat on that couch and Fox and Friends and Tom
- 5:41Speaker 2: Holman said, and when I come back down, it's like
- 5:44Speaker 2: right out of cool Hand, Luke, you know, with Paul
- 5:47Speaker 2: Newe in that chair. When I come back down, Eric,
- 5:50Speaker 2: I see the NYPD is not working with Ice. I'm
- 5:55Speaker 2: gonna put a boot up your button. And he just froze.
- 5:59Speaker 2: He didn't say a damn thing. You know how many
- 6:03Speaker 2: many African Americans showed me that video. I have a
- 6:05Speaker 2: headquarters in Brownsville on Osmorne and Hegeman, where I grew
- 6:08Speaker 2: up from seventy four to seventy six. And they showed
- 6:11Speaker 2: me that the other day at our grand opening and
- 6:13Speaker 2: they were like, that was it for me. The moment
- 6:16Speaker 2: he froze and he didn't say anything to Tom Holman
- 6:19Speaker 2: defending himself. What outrageous thing to say. It was over,
- 6:23Speaker 2: Ferry Adam.
- 6:24Speaker 4: I want to go back to the Guardian Angel thing.
- 6:26Speaker 4: Did they ever look at y'all that as vigilantes?
- 6:29Speaker 2: Oh? First, yeah, because they didn't know who we were
- 6:32Speaker 2: and what we would do, mostly black, Hispanic, White and Asians.
- 6:36Speaker 2: They just assumed we were another gang. In fact, when
- 6:38Speaker 2: we first began to patrol the trains, you know a
- 6:41Speaker 2: lot of the folks out there would be screaming from
- 6:45Speaker 2: one end of the car to the other hand. Warriors
- 6:48Speaker 2: come out and play, assuming that we were like cast
- 6:52Speaker 2: characters from the Warriors move and we had to just
- 6:55Speaker 2: take subway line by subway line back by having a
- 6:58Speaker 2: constant presence was time. We were the only ones out
- 7:01Speaker 2: there at night. They were no transit police because of
- 7:03Speaker 2: the cutbacks. And then finally people began to recognize us.
- 7:07Speaker 2: First with David Dinkins and then with Rudy Giuliani, and
- 7:11Speaker 2: we haven't had any problem since we all.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Have influenced by the Black Panther Party.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I was influenced by the Black Panther Party, by the
- 7:18Speaker 2: Young Lords, by the Brown Berets. As you can see,
- 7:21Speaker 2: I'm wearing the beret. I studied radical politics coming out
- 7:25Speaker 2: of high school. In fact, that's how I ended up
- 7:28Speaker 2: marrying my first wife. I was parting Canarcia High School
- 7:31Speaker 2: before they finally said goodbye. No, everyone thinks Lisa was
- 7:37Speaker 2: my first wife. My first wife was Corn Drayton from Brownsville,
- 7:42Speaker 2: that's where I was living. She was from Saint Croix,
- 7:44Speaker 2: the Virgin Islands. Her and her brother Alfred were in
- 7:47Speaker 2: this club at Canarsia High School called Angela Davis, George
- 7:52Speaker 2: Jackson and the Solidad Brothers. So I was like immersed
- 7:56Speaker 2: in that politics because remember we're talking early seven and
- 8:01Speaker 2: so I was able to sample it all. And I
- 8:03Speaker 2: like the paramilitary look, and I like some of the
- 8:05Speaker 2: programs involved, especially the breakfast programs and other things that
- 8:10Speaker 2: they were doing in the community. And I saw that
- 8:11Speaker 2: for myself because I was in all these neighborhoods I
- 8:15Speaker 2: was up in Crown Heights, I was in Brownsville, I
- 8:17Speaker 2: was in Bedsty, I was in East New York. I
- 8:20Speaker 2: lived on Cleveland and New Lots and then eventually Canarsi.
- 8:22Speaker 2: So I basically had fulfilled the trifecta, the trinity DETROITKA, Brownsville,
- 8:27Speaker 2: East New York, Kanarsi. Boy, and you get a total
- 8:31Speaker 2: feel of what the outer boroughs are like neglected, never
- 8:34Speaker 2: paid attention to the Politicians talk about the outer boroughs,
- 8:38Speaker 2: but they don't really do anything for the outer boroughs.
- 8:41Speaker 2: And that's why I'm the mayor.
- 8:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I think those are the you know, when I
- 8:43Speaker 4: think about the Guardian Angels, the Black Panther Party, you know,
- 8:46Speaker 4: I think that, you know, the community work is the
- 8:48Speaker 4: thing that doesn't get discussed enough from from both groups.
- 8:51Speaker 4: Like you said, you know y'all taught self defense classes.
- 8:54Speaker 4: You know, I think I used to do things with
- 8:55Speaker 4: the homeless too, right.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we have junior Guardian Angels also in Washington Heights.
- 9:00Speaker 2: There's a lot of young boys and young girls could
- 9:02Speaker 2: he easily form into harm's way with all the influences
- 9:06Speaker 2: at gangbangers, and we not only have them go out
- 9:09Speaker 2: and take care of the homeless and the emotionally disturbed,
- 9:12Speaker 2: and the subways, the streets and the parks. But our
- 9:15Speaker 2: senior guardian angels too. Nobody's cared about these folks. Hey, look,
- 9:20Speaker 2: Eric Adams gave seven billion dollars to migrants people we
- 9:23Speaker 2: didn't even know, put them up in three star hotels,
- 9:25Speaker 2: the old Milford plact remember the commercials they do the
- 9:27Speaker 2: Milford Plast four hundred dollars a night. Then we give
- 9:30Speaker 2: them a bagel and a shmer in the morning and
- 9:32Speaker 2: they say, no, we want culturally appropriate food. What do
- 9:35Speaker 2: you want Canada sabichuelo with a chew letta on top,
- 9:38Speaker 2: No problem, grub hubbit. What are we doing for homeless
- 9:41Speaker 2: people and emotionally disturb many of them veterans, most of
- 9:44Speaker 2: them African Americans. Nobody wants to talk about that. But
- 9:47Speaker 2: I'm down in the streets and the subways and the
- 9:50Speaker 2: parks every day. I know a lot of these men
- 9:52Speaker 2: and women on a first name basis. These shelters are dangerous.
- 9:55Speaker 2: It's Darwinian, it's survival of the fittest. They have mica
- 9:59Speaker 2: shelters that I've been in for the mentally ill and
- 10:02Speaker 2: the chemically addicted, and I got to tell you, nobody
- 10:05Speaker 2: is safe in those shelters. So if I were homeless
- 10:08Speaker 2: and I were destitute, I wouldn't stay in a shelter.
- 10:11Speaker 2: There are no rules in regulations. And there used to
- 10:13Speaker 2: be a homeless outreach unit with the NYPD. It is
- 10:16Speaker 2: what men and women dedicated to helping the homeless and
- 10:18Speaker 2: emotionally disturb. They knew the directors of the homeless shelters,
- 10:22Speaker 2: they knew the security, they knew people in the neighborhood.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Then build a Bosio took a billion dollars out of
- 10:27Speaker 2: the budget and eliminated that homeless outreach area January first,
- 10:30Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. I'd put that unit into place because
- 10:33Speaker 2: they had medical nurses with them. You know, we talk
- 10:36Speaker 2: about we got to have healthcare workers with the police
- 10:38Speaker 2: when they show up for a domestic situation or dealing
- 10:41Speaker 2: with an emotionally disturbed person. I agree, but we already
- 10:44Speaker 2: had it. We disbanded it. De Blosio never did it.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Adams never did it, Homo. I mean he when he
- 10:51Speaker 2: came in to office as governor, there were forty thousand
- 10:53Speaker 2: beds for the mentally ill in state hospitals. He cut
- 10:57Speaker 2: the budget to the point. By the time he fled
- 10:59Speaker 2: in fear of impeachment to the Hamptons to be with
- 11:02Speaker 2: his billionaire friends, there only four thousand beds left. So
- 11:05Speaker 2: if you want to blame anybody Andrew Comol, who's trying
- 11:09Speaker 2: to reinvent himself, all these homeless emotionally distort our people,
- 11:13Speaker 2: our Americans, our veterans, and we do nothing for them
- 11:16Speaker 2: but pay lip service to them. That becomes a priority
- 11:19Speaker 2: with me because I know so many of them, so
- 11:22Speaker 2: many of them have incredible stories. Remember that woman Debrina
- 11:25Speaker 2: Kwam who was set on fire like a human torch
- 11:29Speaker 2: December twenty second on that subway platform of Coney Island,
- 11:33Speaker 2: Stillwell Avenue in the f train by that migrant who
- 11:36Speaker 2: then fanned the flames and then sat there like the
- 11:39Speaker 2: pyromaniac he was, and watched her burn. The cops running
- 11:42Speaker 2: up and down looking for a fire extinguisher and build
- 11:45Speaker 2: a sea. Junior high school, we were taught in CANARSI.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Somebody is on fire, drop them to the ground, roll
- 11:50Speaker 2: them around, try to put the flames out. Nobody did anything.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Grown men with high levels of testoster and pull their
- 11:56Speaker 2: cell phones out iPhones they're taking video instead of helping her,
- 12:01Speaker 2: she died. But her story is similar to the story
- 12:04Speaker 2: of a lot of emotionally disturbed and homeless who live
- 12:07Speaker 2: in the subways. You see that number on the outside
- 12:10Speaker 2: of a car, that's their home. If anybody would take
- 12:14Speaker 2: the time to actually talk with them and understand as
- 12:18Speaker 2: they wallow in their feces and they're urine, and my god,
- 12:24Speaker 2: what humanity is? Says And the other thing that differentiates
- 12:27Speaker 2: me from the other candidates is and the president made
- 12:30Speaker 2: fun of me and my wife. We rescue animals, animals
- 12:34Speaker 2: who would be euthanized in the shelter, dogs and cats,
- 12:37Speaker 2: other animals. I believe in no kill shelters. I believe
- 12:41Speaker 2: you put animal abuses in jail because if they abuse animals,
- 12:44Speaker 2: there's a very good chance they're going to abuse human beings.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Study after study proofs had and I actually have an
- 12:49Speaker 2: independent line called Protect Animals First Ever. So I know
- 12:53Speaker 2: there are a lot of people out there. The only
- 12:55Speaker 2: Republican they've ever seen in any of the neighborhoods is
- 12:57Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln on a five dollar bill. They say, I'll
- 13:00Speaker 2: never vote for a Republican. I know Curtis. Everybody loves Curtis, like,
- 13:04Speaker 2: everybody loves Raymond, but now they can cross over and
- 13:07Speaker 2: vote on that independent line. If you love animals, and
- 13:09Speaker 2: let's face it, everybody loves animals, everybody in fact, on
- 13:14Speaker 2: an iPhone or a smartphone. How many pictures did you
- 13:18Speaker 2: find that people have of their animals who they consider
- 13:21Speaker 2: to be family members. Then their kids, their grandchildren, their nieces,
- 13:26Speaker 2: their nephews, their husbands, their wives, their grandparents. People are
- 13:29Speaker 2: always giving you a hard time. Animals just give you love.
- 13:32Speaker 1: What's the relationship with Donald Trump? Do you have them?
- 13:34Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a love hate relationship going back over
- 13:37Speaker 2: thirty years. They at times I've agreed, there are times
- 13:39Speaker 2: I've disagreed. But you notice he ain't dropping dime to mes,
- 13:44Speaker 2: not talking to me. First she was talking to Eric Adams.
- 13:46Speaker 2: He saved him from going to jail with gold bars,
- 13:49Speaker 2: Bobby Menendez in federal prison, and then all of a
- 13:52Speaker 2: sudden he decided he couldn't win. Then he began his
- 13:55Speaker 2: communication with Andrew cmo. Cramo said, no, yes, no yet,
- 13:59Speaker 2: the guy gives me vertical. Do you like Trump? Because
- 14:02Speaker 2: you're talking to Trump and then you come into New
- 14:04Speaker 2: York City and your bad mouth Trump. You can't. It
- 14:07Speaker 2: can't be halfway. It's like he's a half stepper. And
- 14:11Speaker 2: I think most.
- 14:11Speaker 1: People realize you had a lot of the same donors
- 14:13Speaker 1: as Trump too.
- 14:14Speaker 2: Of course, the billionaires, let me tell you straight up,
- 14:17Speaker 2: the billionaires are not gonna determine who the next mayor
- 14:20Speaker 2: of New York City is. Let the people decide. I
- 14:23Speaker 2: trust people. I don't trust billionaires. I don't trust the
- 14:27Speaker 2: professional political class. They are not gonna choose the mayor.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Let the people decide if they choose Orhanmandami. I'm not
- 14:35Speaker 2: running away like Andrew Cormo said, Oh if he becomes mayor,
- 14:39Speaker 2: I'm gonna run to Florida. I stay, I improve, I
- 14:42Speaker 2: don't move. I was born in New York. They tried
- 14:45Speaker 2: to kill me in New York. The god he's in
- 14:47Speaker 2: Gambino shot me five times to the hollow point bullets
- 14:50Speaker 2: in June of nineteen ninety two, and even when I survived,
- 14:54Speaker 2: I never had armed security after that. Today I walk
- 14:58Speaker 2: into your studios here, I have armed security with me
- 15:02Speaker 2: former NYPD cops. Why Because I wouldn't take the payout
- 15:06Speaker 2: from the billionaires to drop out.
- 15:08Speaker 1: How much did they offer you?
- 15:09Speaker 4: I saw you on the news a few weeks ago,
- 15:10Speaker 4: say that you was like, if one more billionaire calls
- 15:12Speaker 4: me and offers me money to drop out of and
- 15:14Speaker 4: record the call and put it out.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be talking to Alvin Bragg the DA. But
- 15:19Speaker 2: ten million dollars with Jeeves Stretch Limo show for no
- 15:25Speaker 2: show job I ever got the same offer?
- 15:27Speaker 1: What you pulling that? E?
- 15:29Speaker 2: Shoot me?
- 15:29Speaker 1: What are you pulling that?
- 15:31Speaker 2: About? Fifteen seventeen percent?
- 15:33Speaker 1: I took that ten million.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me tell you he was wrong. Man.
- 15:37Speaker 2: They ain't no price taking to put it back in
- 15:39Speaker 2: the commuter She got it. You know. He was playing
- 15:41Speaker 2: Eric drop out because he was playing the Price is Right,
- 15:43Speaker 2: you know Bob Barker's old show, The Price is Right.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Finally he got his price and he was one and done.
- 15:48Speaker 2: Let's face it. He was auditioning all that time, like
- 15:51Speaker 2: Monty Hall, let's make a deal, doing number one, doing
- 15:53Speaker 2: number two, doing number three. He never never thought that
- 15:57Speaker 2: he would continue being mayor, so he was trying to
- 16:00Speaker 2: segue himself out.
- 16:01Speaker 4: Me no way, me you think you got He came
- 16:03Speaker 4: on this show on Thursday said he was not dropping out,
- 16:06Speaker 4: and then he dropped out that Sunday Man.
- 16:08Speaker 2: How many times got Charlemagne? How many times did he
- 16:11Speaker 2: lie to you before he told you? Oh? You my
- 16:14Speaker 2: number one favorite morning program. I listened to him on
- 16:18Speaker 2: other morning programs he repeated that same montra typical politician,
- 16:24Speaker 2: and every host and hostess gets stroked. Oh yeah, Harry
- 16:27Speaker 2: Adams May has said where his favorite morning shoke? You
- 16:30Speaker 2: know that guy wasn't even listening to your show. It's
- 16:33Speaker 2: too busy recovering from the break of dawn on the morning.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Think he got there? How much you think he got?
- 16:39Speaker 2: Oh? I know that they got up to about ten mils,
- 16:42Speaker 2: so he probably spiced it up. He probably spiced it up.
- 16:46Speaker 2: Oh he's taking care of trust me, he's not in
- 16:49Speaker 2: jail where he belongs to. He's a crook, and secondarily
- 16:53Speaker 2: he's gonna have a good career afterwards. You see how
- 16:56Speaker 2: he went psycho the other day at that press conference,
- 16:58Speaker 2: screaming at the media. You you responsible? You was about Hey,
- 17:03Speaker 2: if you were innocent, why didn't you go to court?
- 17:05Speaker 2: Why didn't you prove your innocent? All you need was
- 17:09Speaker 2: one hung Jura and you would have been freed. Same
- 17:13Speaker 2: thing with Andrew cmo. Oh I was innocent? I was innocent.
- 17:17Speaker 2: They set me up. Fifteen thousand elderly people that died
- 17:20Speaker 2: as a result of your executive order. And by the way,
- 17:22Speaker 2: if you were twenty two and worked for Andrew Como, boy,
- 17:26Speaker 2: he loved you too. At twenty two thirteen sexual harassment charges.
- 17:31Speaker 2: We're paying sixty million dollars now in settlements. And it
- 17:35Speaker 2: was all a setup, all a setup. Well, why didn't
- 17:38Speaker 2: you stand there? Your own democrats were prepared to impeach you.
- 17:42Speaker 2: Why didn't you stand there and face the chargers and
- 17:44Speaker 2: argue your point in steady fled. So Eric Adams and
- 17:48Speaker 2: Andrew Cormo have a lot of the same. And then
- 17:50Speaker 2: Zora Mandami, Man, this guy is so hopelessly naive. He
- 17:53Speaker 2: wants open, helped these supermarkets, you know, city owned. I'm
- 17:56Speaker 2: gonna tell him in the debate coming up on Thursday night,
- 17:58Speaker 2: zorn to do about shoplifting. You think those shoplifter is
- 18:02Speaker 2: going to say, oh, this is a zore on Mondami supermarket.
- 18:05Speaker 2: I'm not going to go in there and clean it out.
- 18:07Speaker 2: And then Busfair, he wants bus fair free. Half the
- 18:10Speaker 2: people don't even pay the bus fair to begin with.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Now we're like halfway there, so they keep arguing these things,
- 18:16Speaker 2: and then they argue about international issues that a mayor
- 18:20Speaker 2: has nothing at a.
- 18:21Speaker 4: Way Donnie doesn't. Though that's one thing. There's two things
- 18:23Speaker 4: that I did, like Mamuandani. He didn't, you know, bite
- 18:26Speaker 4: on the Israel thing. He was like, I'm going to
- 18:28Speaker 4: be the mayor of New York City. And the fact
- 18:30Speaker 4: that he just talks about affordability like you can't you
- 18:33Speaker 4: can't disagree with that New York is way too expensive.
- 18:36Speaker 4: That methog thing is going to always resonate with people
- 18:38Speaker 4: when you just simply say this city is not affordable.
- 18:41Speaker 2: There's no doubt. I remember a guy named Jimmy McMillan
- 18:44Speaker 2: African American, had a handleball on me mustache. He coined
- 18:47Speaker 2: the phrase the rent is too high to pay. And
- 18:50Speaker 2: that was twenty ten and with fifteen years later, I
- 18:53Speaker 2: have a millennial wife, Nancy. I mean, she's the best
- 18:56Speaker 2: thing that ever happened to me, and she tells me
- 18:58Speaker 2: with her friends, you know what you have to deal with.
- 19:00Speaker 2: The beginning of the month, we were told, get your
- 19:03Speaker 2: four years of college education, get your two year graduate degree,
- 19:06Speaker 2: get a career, and you will live the American dream.
- 19:09Speaker 2: You'll be able to get your own condo or co op.
- 19:11Speaker 2: You'll be able to get your own house, your own car,
- 19:14Speaker 2: She goes. If I wasn't married to you, I'd be
- 19:17Speaker 2: living in an apartment, probably with three other roommates sharing
- 19:20Speaker 2: the rent that I had just left college years back
- 19:24Speaker 2: in the dormitory and the crushing student loans which my party,
- 19:27Speaker 2: the Republicans, they had no empathy, no sympathy for people
- 19:31Speaker 2: who believe that this was the pathway to success. We
- 19:34Speaker 2: told this generation of millennials and Gen zs, that's the
- 19:37Speaker 2: pathway to success. That's why they're so angry. But Zoron
- 19:41Speaker 2: I call them, it's like the Wizard of Zoran. Everything
- 19:45Speaker 2: is going to be free. Well, I'm the bad news
- 19:47Speaker 2: bear here. Everybody's a good news there in the election,
- 19:50Speaker 2: and people say, don't be a bad news there. Trump's
- 19:52Speaker 2: cutting money, the state has to cut money to the city,
- 19:56Speaker 2: and this budget is just overbloated. Play is gonna hit
- 20:00Speaker 2: no matter who is the mayor, whether it's curtisly what
- 20:03Speaker 2: Angreew Cuomo or Zoron Montdommie. We're not gonna have the
- 20:06Speaker 2: money that they think the tax payers can pony up
- 20:10Speaker 2: just's not gonna happen. We got we gotta get real.
- 20:12Speaker 2: I lived through that in the seventies when there were
- 20:15Speaker 2: major cuts. That's why I formed the Guardian Angels. We're
- 20:18Speaker 2: gonna have to tighten the belt. We're gonna have to
- 20:19Speaker 2: get rid of the waist. Look at the Department of
- 20:22Speaker 2: Education forty one billion dollars, that's one third of the budget.
- 20:26Speaker 2: You look at fourth grade, it's two thirds of them
- 20:28Speaker 2: cannot read, write, or do math at grade level fourth grade?
- 20:32Speaker 2: How can we not focus on vocational training? I remember
- 20:35Speaker 2: Bill to Sea Junior High School. The guidance council would
- 20:38Speaker 2: come to you in eighth grade if your mark's weren't
- 20:40Speaker 2: too good. Curtis, did you ever think of metal shop,
- 20:44Speaker 2: wood shop, culinary art? Because right now you're not cracking
- 20:49Speaker 2: the books. You know, Westinghouse got a great program downtown
- 20:52Speaker 2: East New York High School. You know there's transit to
- 20:55Speaker 2: We do not focus on vocational training. There's such a
- 20:58Speaker 2: demand for cars up into his electricians, plumbers, home health
- 21:02Speaker 2: care aids now. I know you folks, you're not at
- 21:05Speaker 2: the level that I am. But we have a growing
- 21:07Speaker 2: population and aging population. I don't want them having to
- 21:11Speaker 2: go to long term home care units, especially if Andrew
- 21:14Speaker 2: Cuomo has anything to do with those elderly people, they'll
- 21:16Speaker 2: be dead on arrival. God. And most importantly, people want
- 21:21Speaker 2: to stay in their homes, but they need professional home
- 21:24Speaker 2: health care aids. My mother had one, Francesca, and she
- 21:27Speaker 2: would begin to hallucinate. You know, you developed dimension Alzheimer's.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Nobody noticed, Nobody wants to talk about those subjects. It's
- 21:35Speaker 2: a growing problem, and we have so many young men
- 21:38Speaker 2: and women who maybe academically can't cut it. But if
- 21:41Speaker 2: we had more vocational training, they're people listening to you
- 21:44Speaker 2: all over the country who have a trade, who have
- 21:47Speaker 2: a career. I had supreme Cujien cousins who would have
- 21:51Speaker 2: had a trade making license plates Upstate New York would
- 21:54Speaker 2: have been doing a few years because they were on
- 21:57Speaker 2: the wrong side of the tracks, and they went to
- 21:59Speaker 2: vocation high school straightened him out and they were able
- 22:02Speaker 2: to provide for themselves.
- 22:03Speaker 3: At that time, we talked about Lincoln TCH location, h VAC, automotive, nursing, whatever.
- 22:08Speaker 4: Maybe the future millionaires and high earners in the future
- 22:12Speaker 4: are going to be those like they have a They're
- 22:14Speaker 4: already saying there's gonna be a shortage of skilled laborers
- 22:17Speaker 4: in the future.
- 22:18Speaker 2: It already is. And by the way, you know these
- 22:21Speaker 2: raids at the home depot, yards by ice or the
- 22:24Speaker 2: back of restaurants or hospitality. I have three sons. One
- 22:28Speaker 2: of them you may know. A year ago, my oldest son, Anthony,
- 22:32Speaker 2: was viciously beaten in a gang attack. His stepfather is
- 22:36Speaker 2: former governor David Patterson, who as you know, is blind,
- 22:39Speaker 2: who jumped in snatched him out. He could easily have
- 22:42Speaker 2: been impaired, easily have been killed. That's the kind of wild,
- 22:46Speaker 2: crazy crime we have. They call it, you know, crime
- 22:49Speaker 2: that all of a sudden happens out of nowhere. No, no, no, no,
- 22:51Speaker 2: there's always a plan of crime. Somebody is always targeting somebody.
- 22:55Speaker 2: But my son, my oldest son, and my two other sons,
- 22:58Speaker 2: they're not going to work these jobs. These have become
- 23:01Speaker 2: essential workers as long as they're non drug dealers and
- 23:03Speaker 2: gang bangers and narco terrorists and sex traffickers bringing women
- 23:07Speaker 2: in here to sell their bodies. Those are the people
- 23:10Speaker 2: that you'll go to jail and they should be tried
- 23:12Speaker 2: here due time here and then you deport them back
- 23:14Speaker 2: to their country of origin. Everyone is entitled to do process.
- 23:17Speaker 2: But the people who are working, trying to raise their
- 23:21Speaker 2: families and living the American dream, we need to leave
- 23:24Speaker 2: them alone. Because who is going to do the jobs
- 23:27Speaker 2: that Americans will no longer do in the fields, picking
- 23:30Speaker 2: the crops, packing the crops, in the slaughter houses. Everybody
- 23:33Speaker 2: thinks that it's back in the thirties and forties. No, no, no, no,
- 23:37Speaker 2: times have changed significantly because the new generation, most of them,
- 23:42Speaker 2: are not going to do those jobs.
- 23:43Speaker 5: So question for you, with all of these things that
- 23:45Speaker 5: you just said that are sound great, why do you
- 23:47Speaker 5: think it's not hitting the people where it's like effective,
- 23:49Speaker 5: where they want you to be their married, Like, why
- 23:51Speaker 5: are you not polling well?
- 23:53Speaker 2: Well? Polling right? Polling looked two months before the Democratic
- 23:56Speaker 2: primary when Zora Mandami, who nobody knew, beat Andrew Como
- 24:00Speaker 2: by thirteen points, he was down by forty. Everybody knows
- 24:03Speaker 2: Governor Pataki he beat the better Cromo. There's no doubt
- 24:08Speaker 2: in my mind, Mariocomo was ten times better than Arew Cromo.
- 24:12Speaker 2: I knew Mariocomo. Andrew is no Mariocomo. November two, two
- 24:18Speaker 2: days before November fourth, there was no early voting that
- 24:21Speaker 2: the polls said that George Pataki was behind by fourteen
- 24:25Speaker 2: points fourteen points two days before, only one day of voting,
- 24:29Speaker 2: he won by three percentage points. You cannot depend on
- 24:32Speaker 2: these poles. Look at Harris Trump. They said it was
- 24:34Speaker 2: neck and neck. Trump ends up winning the popular vote
- 24:37Speaker 2: in the seven battleground state. You cannot trust these poles.
- 24:40Speaker 2: I know my pathway to victory. I have Republicans Independence
- 24:44Speaker 2: two and a half times the number of voters of Republicans,
- 24:47Speaker 2: because that's the growing number of registered voters. I win
- 24:51Speaker 2: the Independence, I'll get some moderate Democrats, and I'll get
- 24:54Speaker 2: the animal lovers, and that'll be my pathway to victory.
- 24:57Speaker 4: You know a lot of New Yorkers think you're more
- 24:59Speaker 4: entertained than leader. So how do you know let them
- 25:03Speaker 4: know and know you really want to be a leader.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Well, Charlemagne the God, you're in radio DJ. You're in
- 25:10Speaker 2: radio right. You're an entertainer. That's what you get paid
- 25:12Speaker 2: to do. If all of a sudden you decided you
- 25:15Speaker 2: wanted to transition and run for political office, you would
- 25:18Speaker 2: have to take a much more serious bent on dealing
- 25:22Speaker 2: with issues. But you see, I've done both simultaneously. I've
- 25:25Speaker 2: been in the communities. I've been helping communities. It's not
- 25:28Speaker 2: like I was just in talk radio for thirty five years.
- 25:32Speaker 2: In fact, I'm probably the oldest one in all of
- 25:34Speaker 2: talk radio in New York City who has survived in
- 25:37Speaker 2: which is a very very difficult business there. You have
- 25:40Speaker 2: to entertain, you have to inform, but when you're running
- 25:43Speaker 2: for office, you have to be knowledgeable. I don't think
- 25:46Speaker 2: even my opponents, Johann Mandami and Andrew Cuomo would quibble
- 25:49Speaker 2: with the fact the courteously would know. It's more about
- 25:51Speaker 2: New York City. All three hundred and fifteen neighborhoods, they
- 25:54Speaker 2: only go to the neighborhoods they received in all four
- 25:57Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two subway stations platforms. They haven't been
- 26:01Speaker 2: in there. They don't even campaign there. The public housing projects,
- 26:04Speaker 2: which are falling apart as we speak. I believe in
- 26:07Speaker 2: trying to provide home ownership for the people who live
- 26:11Speaker 2: in the projects. This was an idea that resonated many
- 26:14Speaker 2: years ago by somebody named Jack Kemp, who was part
- 26:16Speaker 2: of the Reagan administration.
- 26:17Speaker 1: Republican great football quarterback, great.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Congressman, and he wanted people to be able to own
- 26:23Speaker 2: their own apartment like you own a co operal condo.
- 26:26Speaker 2: You know who shot him down, my fellow Republicans, and
- 26:29Speaker 2: he was a Republican. That's something worth fighting for. Everybody
- 26:33Speaker 2: has a right to a piece of the American dream.
- 26:37Speaker 2: And I've been in one third of the projects throughout
- 26:39Speaker 2: the city of New York eighteen alone in Brownsville, where
- 26:42Speaker 2: I lived for a brief time. People have no idea
- 26:45Speaker 2: the struggles that go on in public housing, how they're
- 26:47Speaker 2: falling apart before us. And Trump has already said I'm
- 26:51Speaker 2: cutting the night your budget. They've already given us a precursor,
- 26:54Speaker 2: a warning. And you've got to have somebody who knows
- 26:56Speaker 2: the city and it is going to be able to
- 26:58Speaker 2: go in and cushion people and prepare for the reality
- 27:01Speaker 2: of what's coming. Nobody knows that better than Curtis Lager.
- 27:04Speaker 2: And for all the millennials and gen Zas out there
- 27:07Speaker 2: who have decided to go to school here, go to
- 27:09Speaker 2: college here, university here, we give them an income tax holiday,
- 27:13Speaker 2: no income tax for five years, because they're going to
- 27:16Speaker 2: need the money to be able to afford the high
- 27:19Speaker 2: cost of living here. Because they're being recruited away. They're
- 27:22Speaker 2: being recruited to other states. Our cops are being recruited away.
- 27:25Speaker 2: Other civil servants are being recruited away. And remember this
- 27:28Speaker 2: about the cops. They no longer have insurance. That means
- 27:32Speaker 2: they're very tepid in terms of getting involved. Why should
- 27:35Speaker 2: the police be the only civil servants of three hundred
- 27:38Speaker 2: and twenty thousand who had the insurance stripped from them.
- 27:42Speaker 2: That means they can be personally sued. You're never going
- 27:44Speaker 2: to be able to recruit enough cops if you're not protected,
- 27:47Speaker 2: like as sanitation men is, like a firefighter is like
- 27:50Speaker 2: a judge, a DA the mayor. In fact, if necessary,
- 27:53Speaker 2: when I get elected mayor, I will say guess what,
- 27:56Speaker 2: or they call it qualified immunity. All of our insurance
- 27:59Speaker 2: gets stripped selected officials. If the cops don't have the
- 28:02Speaker 2: people's insurance, we shouldn't have the people insurance either. Because
- 28:06Speaker 2: a mayor can make so many mistakes, a lot of
- 28:09Speaker 2: people can get hurt by his mistakes or her mistakes,
- 28:12Speaker 2: a lot of people might end up dying because his
- 28:15Speaker 2: or her mistakes. And yet, as in the case of
- 28:18Speaker 2: Governor Cuomo, sixty million dollars in handouts to the sexual
- 28:22Speaker 2: harassment victims in his administration want to stay trooper. He
- 28:26Speaker 2: was protected by the people's insurance qualified immunity. He can't
- 28:30Speaker 2: have this double standard.
- 28:31Speaker 5: What things get hurt by you making some of the
- 28:34Speaker 5: things that you just talked about happened. Because I know
- 28:36Speaker 5: when you talk about the tax cuts, there was the
- 28:38Speaker 5: ten billion dollars from the education or the schools that
- 28:41Speaker 5: was going to be taken away in order to make
- 28:43Speaker 5: the tax cuts happen. How does that money affect the
- 28:46Speaker 5: schools in a negative way to achieve what you're trying
- 28:49Speaker 5: to get to on a positive side?
- 28:51Speaker 2: Or does it Right right behind City Hall you have
- 28:54Speaker 2: Tweak Courthouse. This is where the bureaucrats actually occupy offices,
- 29:00Speaker 2: any of them those show jobs. It's the old home
- 29:03Speaker 2: of Tammany Hall, the most corrupt political operation that ever existed.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Perfect for the Department of Education. They have thirteen deputy chancellors,
- 29:11Speaker 2: fifty department heads. When you talk to the principals and
- 29:13Speaker 2: the elementary schools, junior high schools and high schools who
- 29:16Speaker 2: have to hire this staff, they don't even know who
- 29:19Speaker 2: these people are. They make two hundred and sixty eight
- 29:21Speaker 2: thousand plus with benefits. You cut all that bureaucracy. The
- 29:25Speaker 2: other thing you have to do is you have to
- 29:27Speaker 2: promote charter schools. You have to promote other alternative schools.
- 29:32Speaker 2: You can't say to parents or guardians or people who
- 29:35Speaker 2: are trying to give their children the best quality education,
- 29:39Speaker 2: it's one way your local school. What happens if your
- 29:42Speaker 2: local public school is a failing school, what are you
- 29:45Speaker 2: to do to keep sending your child there where they're
- 29:48Speaker 2: exposed to gangs, they're exposed to people cursing, not respecting teachers.
- 29:53Speaker 2: They have what they call restorative justice in class now,
- 29:57Speaker 2: So that means if Charlemagne won, might teacher and I
- 30:00Speaker 2: clip you right, I hit you with a baseball bat,
- 30:03Speaker 2: you would think, Okay, I get expelled, they get suspended,
- 30:06Speaker 2: maybe I get arrested. No no, no, no, no no, Charlemagne,
- 30:09Speaker 2: they set you and me down with a moderator restorative justice.
- 30:13Speaker 2: I know the routine. Oh Charlemagne had a bad day,
- 30:17Speaker 2: cross my heart and hope to die. I promise, I promise, teacher,
- 30:20Speaker 2: I'll never do it again. The moment they walk out
- 30:23Speaker 2: the door, snitches get stitches and end up in ditches
- 30:27Speaker 2: your mind, And now you've got to go back into
- 30:29Speaker 2: the same class. It's like the correctional department. Mostly now
- 30:33Speaker 2: the correctional offices of women are colored right, more than
- 30:35Speaker 2: fifty percent black and Hispanic. You go on a riker's Island,
- 30:39Speaker 2: which is on Man Damie and Andrew Coma. You know,
- 30:41Speaker 2: they just wanted to close close clothes and they never
- 30:44Speaker 2: been there. These weren't are getting perved on, sexually harassed,
- 30:47Speaker 2: sexually assaulted the inmates. There are no consequences in you
- 30:50Speaker 2: know what happens once they've been put aside for a
- 30:53Speaker 2: few hours, they get put back into the same tier.
- 30:56Speaker 2: And these women correctional offices, many of them single parents
- 31:00Speaker 2: raising families, have to deal with these guys. There are
- 31:03Speaker 2: no protection. Toughest job in the city is being a
- 31:06Speaker 2: correctional office at twelve hours. It's like a constant nine
- 31:09Speaker 2: one one call. And EMTs who have to deal with
- 31:12Speaker 2: the psychologically disturbed, who have to go to domestic abusers,
- 31:16Speaker 2: who have to help people having heart attacks strokes. You know,
- 31:19Speaker 2: they make less than people on bicycles delivering groove hub
- 31:23Speaker 2: who are trying to run you down in the streets
- 31:24Speaker 2: and don't pay attention to any of the laws of
- 31:26Speaker 2: the road. I mean sometimes it's like the Indianapolis five hundred.
- 31:30Speaker 2: They grow up pub delivery guys with the app make
- 31:32Speaker 2: more money than an EMT that accurate. Absolutely, they put
- 31:36Speaker 2: their life on the line.
- 31:37Speaker 4: I'll ask you about the student, so you know, yeah,
- 31:40Speaker 4: I definitely think there should be consequences of actions, especially
- 31:42Speaker 4: if a students.
- 31:42Speaker 1: They hit a teacher with a baseball bang.
- 31:44Speaker 4: But they are still children at the end of the day, Like,
- 31:47Speaker 4: what is the path to redemption for a child?
- 31:50Speaker 2: Look, a lot of reasons why a child may be
- 31:53Speaker 2: acting up. There are alternative schools to the children. You
- 31:56Speaker 2: have specially skilled teachers and many of them that can
- 31:59Speaker 2: deal with their needs. It can't function in a normal
- 32:02Speaker 2: academic atmosphere because when they're acting up and they're causing
- 32:06Speaker 2: problems to other children or the teachers, it disrupts the
- 32:10Speaker 2: whole classroom. The teacher is afraid. I can't tell you
- 32:12Speaker 2: how many times I've walked into a classroom there's like
- 32:15Speaker 2: twelve kids sitting there. You know, half of them are asleep,
- 32:19Speaker 2: others are just doing other things. You know, they're not
- 32:21Speaker 2: paying attention to the teacher. The teacher just figures, let
- 32:24Speaker 2: me get through this. Forty five minute period and clock
- 32:27Speaker 2: out for the day. I remember teachers who couldn't wait
- 32:30Speaker 2: to get into a classroom to fill you full of knowledge,
- 32:33Speaker 2: to share with you everything that they learned in their lifetime.
- 32:37Speaker 2: We got to get back to the basics. We have
- 32:39Speaker 2: to treat our children as the greatest natural resource we do.
- 32:44Speaker 2: I go into a lot of poor neighborhoods where I
- 32:46Speaker 2: spend a lot of time. I've had a lot of
- 32:49Speaker 2: Guardian Angels who came from dysfunction dysfunctional families where they
- 32:53Speaker 2: start crying and you know what broke their back on
- 32:57Speaker 2: teachers parent Night, which every public school has every schoolass
- 33:03Speaker 2: Nobody showed up for them. Not a mother, not a father,
- 33:06Speaker 2: not a grandparent, not an older brother, not an older sister.
- 33:10Speaker 2: Nobody showed up for them. And in talking to them,
- 33:14Speaker 2: they said, man, I felt like I was worthless. I
- 33:18Speaker 2: felt like nobody loved me. I felt like, hey, I
- 33:21Speaker 2: might as well go and hang with a gang and
- 33:23Speaker 2: hang with my alternative family. That's why I created the
- 33:25Speaker 2: Guardian Angels. It became their alternative family to keep them
- 33:29Speaker 2: out of harm's way, and thousands of them have gone
- 33:32Speaker 2: on to have great careers as police officers. Social workers,
- 33:35Speaker 2: correctional officers. That's how I can keep my fingers on
- 33:39Speaker 2: the pulse of this city, by all the alumni of
- 33:41Speaker 2: the Guardian Angels who keep me updated to what's really happening,
- 33:44Speaker 2: not what the politician say, because basically they do the
- 33:48Speaker 2: ropidope the politicians, but really what goes on with working
- 33:51Speaker 2: class people. So if people need to know who I am,
- 33:54Speaker 2: I am a Republican, I'm a populist. I am the
- 33:56Speaker 2: candidate of working class people. There is no other candidate,
- 34:01Speaker 2: well there's any working class we know.
- 34:03Speaker 4: I wonder does it even benefits you to call yourself
- 34:05Speaker 4: a Republican because at this current time, at least on
- 34:08Speaker 4: a federal level, not even that it's on a federal level,
- 34:10Speaker 4: this is a period Republicans are not the party of
- 34:11Speaker 4: the working class.
- 34:13Speaker 2: Well I disagree. How I disagree because if you go
- 34:17Speaker 2: throughout the country, you've seen a tremendous turnaround the Republican Party.
- 34:21Speaker 4: If you're cutting all of the programs that benefit the
- 34:23Speaker 4: least of us in this country, right and you know
- 34:25Speaker 4: you're responsible for more jobs being lost this year on
- 34:28Speaker 4: a federal level than any than the Democrats.
- 34:31Speaker 1: That's just the fact.
- 34:32Speaker 4: Between dogs and what's happening now with the government shut down.
- 34:34Speaker 1: They're clearly not the party.
- 34:36Speaker 2: Of Would you admit that both parties keep spending money
- 34:40Speaker 2: they don't have printing money thirty seven trillion in debt.
- 34:44Speaker 2: We are facing a catastrophe. When you're a populist Republican,
- 34:48Speaker 2: you're saying, hey, we got to live within our means. Now.
- 34:51Speaker 2: I don't agree with all the cuts coming from the
- 34:53Speaker 2: Trump administration. Medicaid cuts have been devastating to us in
- 34:57Speaker 2: the city. The food stamps, everybody gets hurt. Farmers get hurt,
- 35:01Speaker 2: the packers get hurt, the bodega owner, the supermarket owners
- 35:04Speaker 2: get hurt, the people who need food. And, by the way,
- 35:08Speaker 2: the horrible food in some of the inner city neighborhoods.
- 35:10Speaker 2: I call it the ICU belt. I call it the
- 35:13Speaker 2: three k's. Forget the KKK. It's Kentucky Fried Chicken, it's
- 35:17Speaker 2: Kansas chicken, it's Kennedy chicken. That's a guaranteed trip to
- 35:21Speaker 2: an er and ICU belt. And then you try to
- 35:23Speaker 2: look for good food sources. They don't exist. Now, Adams
- 35:27Speaker 2: talked a lot about that because he benefited from that.
- 35:29Speaker 2: I do know personally he was in dire circumstances medically,
- 35:33Speaker 2: but it never translated to helping people in those neighborhoods
- 35:37Speaker 2: have the kind of food choice. Call it trader, Jose,
- 35:40Speaker 2: I don't care, but you got traded, Joels. You got
- 35:42Speaker 2: whole foods. Where people have some money, they have choices
- 35:45Speaker 2: go to. In the inner city where I spend most
- 35:47Speaker 2: of my time, the choices are meager, if almost nonexistent,
- 35:51Speaker 2: and these people are ending up going into the hospital
- 35:54Speaker 2: at younger and younger ages, and that costs us a
- 35:57Speaker 2: lot of money that's unnecessary and plus the suffering unnecessary.
- 36:01Speaker 2: So we talk about these programs, but if you don't
- 36:03Speaker 2: have boots on the ground, if you don't really know
- 36:05Speaker 2: these people who are affected, you're never going to be
- 36:08Speaker 2: able to come up with the plans to try to
- 36:10Speaker 2: stop that. And that's where savings can be if people
- 36:12Speaker 2: are healthier, less trips to the er, less trips to
- 36:15Speaker 2: the ICU, and less aggravation for the EMTs who don't
- 36:20Speaker 2: are not treated with value by this city. Should have
- 36:23Speaker 2: paid parody with fire and the police, and they're in
- 36:26Speaker 2: constant nine to one one calls, you know, with the
- 36:29Speaker 2: sirens and the whistles going. Imagine the depression you would
- 36:32Speaker 2: be in if you were an EMT worker.
- 36:34Speaker 4: And you know your rhetoric is I agree with a
- 36:37Speaker 4: lot of your rhetoric. It just doesn't reflect with a
- 36:39Speaker 4: current Republican party. That's why I say it.
- 36:41Speaker 1: Didn't even benefit you to say I'm Republican.
- 36:44Speaker 5: Charge you'll get nervous when they hear a budget cut
- 36:48Speaker 5: to any anything education from a Republican candidate, and that's
- 36:51Speaker 5: why I asked you the question earlier.
- 36:52Speaker 2: Well, you won't hear about any budget cuts from the Democrats,
- 36:55Speaker 2: and that is a reality. So you got to cut
- 36:57Speaker 2: the fat, you got to cut the bureaccuracy, you got
- 37:00Speaker 2: to cut the corruption. And there's a lot of corruption there.
- 37:02Speaker 2: And it's not just Democrats.
- 37:04Speaker 4: In the Department of Education though, especially if you said that,
- 37:06Speaker 4: you know a lot of these kids aren't getting the
- 37:08Speaker 4: education that they deserve.
- 37:08Speaker 1: We should put more investment into education.
- 37:11Speaker 2: But where's the money going to come from. It's already
- 37:13Speaker 2: one hundred and eighteen billion dollar budget. The state has
- 37:16Speaker 2: said they got to cut thirty six billion. They're over budgeted,
- 37:19Speaker 2: and the federal government keeps cutting. We got to tighten
- 37:22Speaker 2: our belts. I want the money to go in the classroom.
- 37:24Speaker 2: Do you realize with a forty one billion dollar budget,
- 37:26Speaker 2: teachers are still reaching into their pocket and buying supplies.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Where's all that money going to?
- 37:31Speaker 1: I agree, I think that's disgusting.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Where's that money going?
- 37:34Speaker 1: So you don't want to cut the budget department?
- 37:36Speaker 2: There, well, just the bureaucracy, just the people who get
- 37:39Speaker 2: paid incredible amounts of money, and nobody in the schools
- 37:43Speaker 2: knows who they are and what they do. It's called patronage.
- 37:47Speaker 2: You get a job like this because you took good
- 37:50Speaker 2: care of candidates who ended up getting elected to position.
- 37:53Speaker 2: That patronage has end. Now are all the Republicans good,
- 37:57Speaker 2: of course not? Or all the Democrats good? Of course not.
- 38:00Speaker 2: But if you notice, I'm a different kind of Republican
- 38:02Speaker 2: than the other Republicans. A lot of Republicans don't have
- 38:05Speaker 2: nice things to say about me because I call myself
- 38:08Speaker 2: the mayor of the people. I got the boots on
- 38:10Speaker 2: the ground, I'm in the subways, I'm on the busses,
- 38:12Speaker 2: I'm on the express busses. These other candidates, they have
- 38:16Speaker 2: no idea what's going on out there.
- 38:17Speaker 3: I do have to asker, I have to go to
- 38:19Speaker 3: These guys don't I do have one question before I
- 38:21Speaker 3: do congestion totally right. New Yorker said they hated it,
- 38:25Speaker 3: They said it costs too much money. They said it's
- 38:27Speaker 3: already hard. We just talked about all the money that
- 38:29Speaker 3: people can't afford. But now if they come to the
- 38:31Speaker 3: city for anything, if they're coming for work, and if
- 38:33Speaker 3: they're driving in the city, they're getting charge and tax
- 38:35Speaker 3: a whole lot more.
- 38:35Speaker 1: What is your thoughts.
- 38:36Speaker 2: Try they clip your nine dollars and you know nine
- 38:38Speaker 2: times two is eighteen, and suddenly it'll be thirty six
- 38:41Speaker 2: and it never goes down. Working class people are crippled by
- 38:45Speaker 2: congestion pricing. It's nothing more than another tax. And it
- 38:48Speaker 2: was supposed to offset the billion dollars that we lose
- 38:51Speaker 2: in fair evasion. And look at all the storefronts that.
- 38:54Speaker 1: Are closed now.
- 38:55Speaker 2: Go south of sixtieth Street across some city hall. There
- 38:57Speaker 2: are nine small storefronts, and you talk to the merchants,
- 39:01Speaker 2: some men and women who've been there for years. Curtis,
- 39:03Speaker 2: I had to give it up my lease. I couldn't
- 39:05Speaker 2: pay my rent anymore. I don't have enough foot traffic
- 39:07Speaker 2: coming in and out to be able to sustain ourselves.
- 39:10Speaker 2: So you know, if you love bicycles, you love going
- 39:12Speaker 2: around on bicycles, you don't want to see people in cars.
- 39:15Speaker 2: Maybe this is your vendetta against folks, but working class people,
- 39:20Speaker 2: especially if you're a tradesman or tradeswoman, or you have
- 39:22Speaker 2: a skill level, or you got to get to a hospital,
- 39:25Speaker 2: or you're serving our community as a police officer or
- 39:27Speaker 2: a firefighter in uniform services. Why should you be taxed?
- 39:32Speaker 2: All that is is another tax In New York City.
- 39:35Speaker 2: You get taxed from the cradle to the grave. And
- 39:36Speaker 2: then they got these speed cameras, speed cameras all over
- 39:39Speaker 2: the place. Boom, one hundred and fifty dollars, Boom, one
- 39:42Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars. Put speed bumps that'll slow you down.
- 39:46Speaker 2: And if you decide that you're going to be like
- 39:49Speaker 2: Mario Andretti and the Indianapolis five hundred, you're going to
- 39:52Speaker 2: end up an offender, bended shop, your undercarriage, your ball bearings,
- 39:55Speaker 2: your alignment will be shot. Speed Bumps will slow you down.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Speed camera don't slow you down. All they do is
- 40:01Speaker 2: pick your pockets. That's what the city is about, picking
- 40:05Speaker 2: your pockets, taxing you from the cradle to the grave.
- 40:07Speaker 2: And we have to stop because working class people are
- 40:10Speaker 2: fleeing the billionaires. Look, they always have an out, They
- 40:14Speaker 2: always have a place somewhere else, they move their businesses.
- 40:16Speaker 2: They'll be fine. The working class people. Everything they got
- 40:20Speaker 2: is in their co op, their condo, their house. First
- 40:23Speaker 2: generation immigrants, the family pulls all of its money to
- 40:26Speaker 2: get a house, the American dream. Where I was in Brownsville,
- 40:29Speaker 2: all these West Indian Caribbeans pull their money to get
- 40:32Speaker 2: a house. And then they also now have the city
- 40:35Speaker 2: of yes, which will allow a developer to come in
- 40:37Speaker 2: where the bulldozer in a wrecking ball, there goes your house.
- 40:40Speaker 2: We're going to put up a forty story apartment building.
- 40:43Speaker 2: You have no say in that, no zoning, no community boards.
- 40:46Speaker 2: You don't have to go to the city council person,
- 40:49Speaker 2: because the mayors will then be windying the pocket lined
- 40:52Speaker 2: by the billionaires. That's why I say this election cycle
- 40:55Speaker 2: will not be determined by the billionaires, because what do
- 40:58Speaker 2: they want? What motives a billionaire? You think they give
- 41:01Speaker 2: you money because they really believe in what you're doing.
- 41:04Speaker 2: It's how to make more money. And I was born
- 41:07Speaker 2: in this world with nothing. I'll leave from this world
- 41:10Speaker 2: with nothing, ashes to ashes, dust to dust. They are
- 41:13Speaker 2: self serving servants, many of these elected officials, Republicans and Democrats.
- 41:18Speaker 2: I was raised by my father and mother and my
- 41:20Speaker 2: grandparents to be a selfless servant. That's what you have
- 41:24Speaker 2: to do to help the people. I just got a
- 41:26Speaker 2: couple more questions if you got to go.
- 41:27Speaker 4: I don't know why he's walking out on this question
- 41:29Speaker 4: because it's about his community. But why didn't you attend
- 41:31Speaker 4: the Latino Business Form?
- 41:33Speaker 2: First off, the Latino Business Form, I knew the guy
- 41:36Speaker 2: who was hosting it. He didn't invite any of us.
- 41:38Speaker 2: He did invite Andrew Clomo, he did invite jorham On Domi,
- 41:41Speaker 2: he didn't invite me. I've been to many Latino and
- 41:43Speaker 2: Latina I think what the guy was trying to do
- 41:47Speaker 2: is get attention. He knows I've been there too, thick
- 41:50Speaker 2: and thin. And I'm not gonna dis Jorhan and Andrew
- 41:54Speaker 2: Clomo because I happen to think today two were not
- 41:57Speaker 2: invited or they would have showed up. There's no reason
- 42:00Speaker 2: dissal Latino and Latini community, especially to me, leader of
- 42:04Speaker 2: the Guardian Angels. So many of the Guardian Angels over
- 42:06Speaker 2: the years have been Latino and Latinas, I mean Dominicans
- 42:10Speaker 2: and Puerto Ricans and Mexicans. I mean that's without them,
- 42:13Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been able to start the Guardian Angels.
- 42:16Speaker 1: Now, a couple of things.
- 42:17Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety two, they said that you confess that
- 42:19Speaker 4: you and the Guardian Angels faked several heroic acts for
- 42:22Speaker 4: media attention in the early days.
- 42:25Speaker 2: That was like it was forty five years ago.
- 42:27Speaker 4: Said you find a false report that you were kidnapped
- 42:29Speaker 4: by off duty transit police officers and you staged rescues
- 42:32Speaker 4: and thwarted muggings on the subway.
- 42:33Speaker 2: That, yep, all of that true. You know, you fess
- 42:38Speaker 2: up when you mess up. I mean, I'm more than
- 42:40Speaker 2: happy to apologize for my faults. Anybody who's married out there,
- 42:44Speaker 2: or you have a relationship, I apologize to my wife's
- 42:48Speaker 2: three times today in the morning, afternoon, and evening.
- 42:50Speaker 1: But why did you have to do that? Because there
- 42:51Speaker 1: was actual crime going on?
- 42:52Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there was lots of Yeah, you could call
- 42:56Speaker 2: it youthful indiscretion, you know they use that term. I
- 42:59Speaker 2: just made bad choices. Luckily, I determine I'm never going
- 43:04Speaker 2: to do that again. And I haven't done anything like
- 43:07Speaker 2: that since. But that's forty five years ago. If I
- 43:10Speaker 2: had to tell you to judge somebody by what they
- 43:13Speaker 2: were doing forty five years ago, oh man, you talk
- 43:15Speaker 2: about all the drama, it probably took place. I have
- 43:19Speaker 2: a track record. The situation in the city is everybody
- 43:23Speaker 2: says nice things about Curtis Levers, like everybody loves Raymond.
- 43:26Speaker 2: My job is to get them to come out and vote,
- 43:29Speaker 2: and I trust the people. I trust that you let
- 43:32Speaker 2: the people vote, they will make the determination of who
- 43:35Speaker 2: the next mayor is. I'm not dropping out. They tried
- 43:38Speaker 2: to bribe me to drop out. Now they threaten to
- 43:41Speaker 2: kill me and my wife. I have armed security for
- 43:44Speaker 2: the first time in my life. Guess what we got
- 43:46Speaker 2: twenty one days ago. Boy, this is a novel idea.
- 43:49Speaker 2: Let's trust the people to make the proper decision, and
- 43:53Speaker 2: I will be more than happy to live with it
- 43:55Speaker 2: because I'm not fleeing like Andrew Colman said. Oh, I'm
- 43:58Speaker 2: fleeing with my billionaire friends to Florida. I stay. I
- 44:01Speaker 2: fight for what I know is right. I improve, I
- 44:03Speaker 2: don't move, and there are a lot of other people
- 44:05Speaker 2: who will do exactly that.
- 44:06Speaker 1: But there's a couple of things.
- 44:07Speaker 4: In twenty twenty four, they said you and some other
- 44:10Speaker 4: Guardian angels accosted a man that you're wrongly accused of
- 44:13Speaker 4: being a migrant and a shoplifted, But the man was
- 44:16Speaker 4: actually from the Bronx and police found no evidence of shoplifts.
- 44:18Speaker 2: No, there was no arrest. That was dealt with. Obviously
- 44:22Speaker 2: we moved on. This is what happens when you're very
- 44:25Speaker 2: active each and every day, situations are going to arise
- 44:29Speaker 2: and you learn from it.
- 44:30Speaker 1: In profiling, did you profile a man?
- 44:32Speaker 2: Now, it wasn't profiling, it was just at the moment.
- 44:35Speaker 2: But again, nobody ended up being arrested. Everything was fine.
- 44:39Speaker 1: And what about this political event?
- 44:41Speaker 4: They said that you stated that anti Semitism was innate
- 44:44Speaker 4: to gentile saying it's in our DNA.
- 44:47Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, when I said that that was at a
- 44:50Speaker 2: rally in Staten Island to a group of Israeli reporters
- 44:53Speaker 2: who were there. My wife confronted me because she had
- 44:56Speaker 2: seen that going. Li said, well, that's a pretty stupid
- 44:59Speaker 2: thing you said. I said, yeah, I didn't say it
- 45:02Speaker 2: the way I should have said it because I'm not Jewish.
- 45:05Speaker 2: I have my two younger sons are Jewish. Their mother
- 45:08Speaker 2: is Melinda Katz, who is the Democratic District Attorney in Queens.
- 45:13Speaker 2: But they didn't handle it well and theyn apologize. But
- 45:17Speaker 2: when you, for instance, all of you were involved in
- 45:20Speaker 2: radio every day, Yes, sir, if you had to apologize
- 45:22Speaker 2: for everything you said in radio, you'd have to go
- 45:25Speaker 2: on an apology to it. I've certainly had to do
- 45:28Speaker 2: that for thirty five years and talk radio. I would
- 45:30Speaker 2: listen back to what I had said. I say what
- 45:32Speaker 2: I was pretty stupid, and you got to apologize, especially
- 45:37Speaker 2: if you give wrong information. And so that's what I've
- 45:40Speaker 2: learned over my seventy one years. When you mess up,
- 45:44Speaker 2: you fess up, and you move on and hopefully nobody
- 45:47Speaker 2: was injured by what you said or any deeds that
- 45:51Speaker 2: are attributed to you.
- 45:52Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing the debate on Earth.
- 45:55Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh you know me.
- 45:56Speaker 4: And if you do drop out before the race, the
- 46:00Speaker 4: safe assume you took the ten million.
- 46:01Speaker 5: Dollars or the job because they said you had a
- 46:03Speaker 5: job offer from Trump too.
- 46:05Speaker 2: There's no job offer from Trump. Even if he were
- 46:07Speaker 2: to called me up and say, Curtis, I'd like her
- 46:09Speaker 2: to come to Washington I'm not going to Washington. I'm
- 46:11Speaker 2: saying right here in New York City twenty one days
- 46:13Speaker 2: to run for mayor. Charlemagne, you can put money on
- 46:16Speaker 2: the fact that I'm not gonna drop off. Once you
- 46:18Speaker 2: set up a little waging board. You know everybody loves
- 46:20Speaker 2: to bet nowadays. Maybe they can do fan duel Curtis
- 46:23Speaker 2: Leewit is not dropping out. They've tried to bribe me.
- 46:27Speaker 2: They threatened to kill me and my wife. Why do
- 46:30Speaker 2: you think all of a sudden I drop out now?
- 46:32Speaker 1: Ten million dollars?
- 46:33Speaker 2: Ten million dollars, No, fifteen, they have to anty a
- 46:35Speaker 2: little bit if they anted it up right that like that?
- 46:39Speaker 2: Remember that Academy Award winning movie Anyone Wanted to be
- 46:44Speaker 2: a Millionaire?
- 46:46Speaker 1: No?
- 46:46Speaker 2: I was never motivated by money. People know me. No,
- 46:50Speaker 2: that's not my motivation. And so they tried.
- 46:53Speaker 1: A million for every point you're polling at.
- 46:55Speaker 2: Nope, just ain't gonna happen. Charlemagne. Okay, you know, could
- 46:58Speaker 2: we could be playing five cardsu O poka here. You
- 47:02Speaker 2: know I ain't folding. I ain't folding.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Do you like your chances?
- 47:06Speaker 2: I love my chances because I treat the people like
- 47:09Speaker 2: a march pit I dive into a group, whether your
- 47:12Speaker 2: friends or foes, people always asking questions. Johan used to
- 47:16Speaker 2: do that. Now he's very guarded in terms of just
- 47:19Speaker 2: going into places where he knows he's gonna get a
- 47:22Speaker 2: lot of grief. And Andrew Cuomo, he does not like people.
- 47:25Speaker 2: He has like a phobia. But I kind of understand.
- 47:28Speaker 2: People look at him and they see the grimorypo They said, man,
- 47:31Speaker 2: I don't want that guy. Yes, Maya, there's a cold
- 47:34Speaker 2: hearted dude. Come on, we need a man who's not tough.
- 47:37Speaker 2: I look, Zorn, I'm gonna be tough with Trump. And Andrew,
- 47:40Speaker 2: I'm gonna be tough with Trump. Look, I'm the toughest
- 47:43Speaker 2: guy of war. What we need is a male's compassionate,
- 47:46Speaker 2: caring and considerate. We have people with serious problems in
- 47:50Speaker 2: our city. Stop trying to be the tough guy. Real
- 47:53Speaker 2: tough guys don't have to tell you they're a tough guy.
- 47:56Speaker 2: Take it from me, a real New Yorker, a real
- 48:00Speaker 2: tough guy who's earned it the hard way.
- 48:03Speaker 1: Tell him what to donate to your campaign.
- 48:05Speaker 2: Go to Sliwa for nyced dot com. That Sleiwa for
- 48:11Speaker 2: NYC dot com and you can see all of the programs.
- 48:15Speaker 2: What I would do for the first hundred days when
- 48:17Speaker 2: I'm sworn into office January first, twenty twenty six, and
- 48:20Speaker 2: I know everybody here in this Breakfast Club studio is
- 48:25Speaker 2: gonna be saying, damn. He told us he who was
- 48:27Speaker 2: gonna win? An he won? Wow, you should have believed him.
- 48:31Speaker 1: It was Curtis Lee. What is the Breakfast Club? Thank
- 48:33Speaker 1: you for joining us, brother.
- 48:34Speaker 2: My pleasure.
- 48:36Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Click your ass up the
- 48:38Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
- 48:40Speaker 2: Finish for y'all.
- 48:40Speaker 1: Done,