Latest / Financial Survival Network / The Underground Economy of Automatic Billing: Examining the Dark Side of Subscriptions - Paul Oster #6133
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Consumers just have to be you know, they have to
- 0:02Speaker 1: hold themselves accountable. Yes, the FTC is constantly going after
- 0:07Speaker 1: some of these bigger companies, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau,
- 0:10Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we have to
- 0:12Speaker 1: protect ourselves. Go through your credit card statements, go through
- 0:16Speaker 1: your bank accounts, and if there's something that you don't recognize,
- 0:19Speaker 1: you and I spoke before you can call your bank.
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- 0:49Speaker 1: And welcome.
- 0:50Speaker 3: You are listening to the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host,
- 0:54Speaker 3: Kerry Letz and hey, are you over subscribed? How many
- 0:58Speaker 3: subscriptions do you pay per month? How much is it
- 1:01Speaker 3: costing you? Do you have any idea? If you don't,
- 1:05Speaker 3: or you're thinking about it or concerned to the least,
- 1:07Speaker 3: then you're going to want to hear from my next guest,
- 1:10Speaker 3: Paul Oster better Qualified dot com. Paul, great to have
- 1:13Speaker 3: you back on the show. So how many subscriptions do
- 1:16Speaker 3: you have?
- 1:18Speaker 1: I'm not sure the exact number, but I have done,
- 1:21Speaker 1: you know, some scouring myself, and I'll talk about a
- 1:26Speaker 1: couple of the tips later on. But when I did it,
- 1:29Speaker 1: I did find two or three subscriptions that I had
- 1:33Speaker 1: no idea. I was still paying four ninety nine a month,
- 1:37Speaker 1: eight ninety nine a month, and those types of things
- 1:40Speaker 1: add up. So I am I am guilty as charged.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Also guilty is charged, punt and ten right, yeah, exactly exactly,
- 1:48Speaker 1: all right, So what do you do? How do you
- 1:51Speaker 1: sure you know?
- 1:52Speaker 3: Do you go hire a go get another subscription to
- 1:55Speaker 3: figure out all your other subscriptions?
- 1:59Speaker 1: Well? You I, you would. I I've spoken about that also,
- 2:02Speaker 1: and look, we've covered subscriptions, you know, on the whole.
- 2:07Speaker 1: The marketing geniuses figured out that the most profitable way
- 2:12Speaker 1: to do business is via subscriptions. If you can get
- 2:15Speaker 1: people to sign up for a monthly subscription, Amazon, all
- 2:20Speaker 1: the major e commerce retailers offer subscriptions. They offer you savings. Right,
- 2:27Speaker 1: there's a discount if you use a subscription based model,
- 2:31Speaker 1: but that's only because in the long run they know
- 2:34Speaker 1: you're going to spend more and you're going to wind
- 2:36Speaker 1: up using the product or service longer than you would
- 2:40Speaker 1: have if you did it month to month. So one
- 2:42Speaker 1: of the easiest ways for your listeners to check to
- 2:47Speaker 1: see how many subscriptions they really have. Look, it's easier
- 2:53Speaker 1: said than done. It's certainly not complicated. It might not
- 2:56Speaker 1: be easy, but let's start with our bank accounts. When
- 2:59Speaker 1: was the last time, you know, we used to balance
- 3:02Speaker 1: our checkbooks. We knew to the penny by the way,
- 3:05Speaker 1: We used to know every penny that went out at
- 3:08Speaker 1: every penny that came in to those accounts. Those days
- 3:11Speaker 1: are long gone. With all of the other cashs, cash
- 3:16Speaker 1: app being one of them, venmo Zell, all these other
- 3:20Speaker 1: different financial institutions along with our bank accounts. Again, I'm
- 3:24Speaker 1: not saying it's easy, but it's not complicated. You have
- 3:27Speaker 1: to go into those accounts and see what you're being
- 3:30Speaker 1: charged for, really go through it with a fine toothcomb. Unfortunately,
- 3:36Speaker 1: most people skim through their statements and they're looking for
- 3:38Speaker 1: anything over twenty bucks fifty bucks. You know, if it
- 3:42Speaker 1: doesn't have three digits, maybe they don't pay attention. But
- 3:45Speaker 1: when you look at the average consumer is at about
- 3:48Speaker 1: two hundred dollars a month in subscriptions, and in recent
- 3:53Speaker 1: surveys that's about one hundred dollars a month more than
- 3:57Speaker 1: they were aware of. So they're paying at one hundred
- 4:00Speaker 1: bucks a month for subscriptions that they had no idea
- 4:03Speaker 1: they were paying. That's a lot of money. So if
- 4:06Speaker 1: you're an if you're an Apple person, right, if you
- 4:08Speaker 1: have an iPhone or you use Apple, you just go
- 4:12Speaker 1: to your iPhone device, you go to settings, you tap
- 4:15Speaker 1: Profile and then you tap subscriptions and it will go
- 4:20Speaker 1: through all of your subscriptions, right, and Apple the people
- 4:27Speaker 1: that's paying for right, exactly anything that you've set up
- 4:31Speaker 1: through Apple pay. Then on if you're an Android or Google,
- 4:35Speaker 1: you go to your Android device and you go to
- 4:38Speaker 1: the play store, tap on the menu icon and look
- 4:41Speaker 1: for subscriptions and all of the ones that are based
- 4:45Speaker 1: at least you know within those you know, uh environments,
- 4:50Speaker 1: you're going to see what you're actually paying for.
- 4:54Speaker 3: M that's crazy, Matt, it's really critm easy.
- 5:00Speaker 1: It's it is, it is And there's also I know
- 5:05Speaker 1: for Apple, I'm not sure about Google and Android, but
- 5:08Speaker 1: you can check a box for the renewer receipts that
- 5:12Speaker 1: you will get aworded when those subscriptions get renewed, because
- 5:16Speaker 1: part of the problem here is exactly that usually when
- 5:21Speaker 1: they offer you the subscription, it's at a discount, quote unquote,
- 5:25Speaker 1: the next time you pay for it, it's going to
- 5:28Speaker 1: be very different. So people have to be aware of
- 5:32Speaker 1: when those subscriptions are going to renew because that's when
- 5:37Speaker 1: the prices usually go up. For sure, the recurring charges,
- 5:41Speaker 1: free trials, auto renewals, monthly subscriptions, that's just a lot
- 5:46Speaker 1: of dead weight and money for consumers. And look, we
- 5:50Speaker 1: also have to hold ourselves accountable a little bit here
- 5:53Speaker 1: and culpable. We get you know, we're clickbait animals. We
- 5:57Speaker 1: get involved in stuff. You know, we want to know.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Some of the clubs that I've seen recently, the Pickle
- 6:05Speaker 1: of the Month club, the Cannabox for all of our
- 6:08Speaker 1: cannabis loving friends. You can get all sorts of ganja
- 6:12Speaker 1: accessories during Cannabi.
- 6:14Speaker 3: I don't do that, at least I don't do that,
- 6:16Speaker 3: so I'm not worry about my cannabis or the month club.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Yeah, the adult coloring Adults Coloring monthly, where they'll send
- 6:25Speaker 1: you blank things that you're going to color in. I
- 6:29Speaker 1: mean it gets crazy, crazy crazy. Part of the problem here, also, Jerry,
- 6:34Speaker 1: is it they make it so simple or they disguise
- 6:38Speaker 1: it right. So at the end of the terms and conditions,
- 6:42Speaker 1: there's usually a box it says check here if you agree. Well,
- 6:45Speaker 1: the box right under that usually says something like check
- 6:48Speaker 1: this box if you'd like to subscribe to our emails
- 6:51Speaker 1: and information and promotions. And most people are just going
- 6:55Speaker 1: through checking the boxes because they think they have to
- 6:57Speaker 1: check all the boxes in order to complete that initial transaction.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Then when you go to cancel, it's not as easy
- 7:06Speaker 1: as just checking a box. You have to go through,
- 7:09Speaker 1: you know, numerous hurdles to get to the endpoint. Look
- 7:13Speaker 1: the FTC as we speak, by the way, they're still
- 7:17Speaker 1: sending Vontage customers. It's over one hundred million dollars in
- 7:21Speaker 1: refunds because Vonage made it almost impossible to cancel their subscription.
- 7:27Speaker 1: So one hundred million dollars in refunds from a company
- 7:31Speaker 1: that knew exactly what they were doing. Yeah, and it's
- 7:34Speaker 1: it's it's deceitful, it's it's fraudulent, you know, it's false advertising.
- 7:41Speaker 1: It's just leading the consumer. By the way, at the
- 7:44Speaker 1: worst time ever right now, when the consumer can't afford
- 7:47Speaker 1: to do anything on top of what they're already paying for.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Consumers just have to be you know, they have to
- 7:54Speaker 1: hold themselves accountable. Yes, the FTC is constantly going after
- 7:59Speaker 1: some of these bigger cumpanies, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau,
- 8:02Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we have to
- 8:04Speaker 1: protect ourselves. Go through your credit card statements, go through
- 8:08Speaker 1: your bank accounts, and if there's something that you don't recognize,
- 8:11Speaker 1: you and I spoke before, you can call your bank
- 8:14Speaker 1: and say I want to stop on these charges. As
- 8:17Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I want a dispute. Then you
- 8:19Speaker 1: go back and you look and you've been getting charged,
- 8:21Speaker 1: you know, nineteen ninety five for eight months from cannabox
- 8:26Speaker 1: and you're like, they don't think I ever signed up
- 8:29Speaker 1: any So your banks can usually help you out. Credit
- 8:33Speaker 1: card companies can usually help you out. But somehow you'll
- 8:36Speaker 1: be able to figure out where the website is and
- 8:39Speaker 1: how you ultimately have to cancel this subscription. All of
- 8:43Speaker 1: these companies that now have subscriptions, they are on by alert.
- 8:47Speaker 1: If a customer calls in and says, you're making it
- 8:50Speaker 1: really difficult for me to cancel this service. They will
- 8:54Speaker 1: help you because they know they're going to get called
- 8:56Speaker 1: on the carpet and like v right, yeah, exactly exactly.
- 9:02Speaker 3: His vantage still around.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Oh yeah, vantage is still around. Week. I actually use
- 9:06Speaker 1: vontage for my for my business phone systems.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Oh really, okay, yep, I didn't know that. I didn't
- 9:12Speaker 3: know they were still here, all right, So, uh, you know,
- 9:16Speaker 3: this is like insane here. I had no idea it
- 9:19Speaker 3: was this bad.
- 9:20Speaker 1: But I'm looking through my own stuff and it's easy
- 9:23Speaker 1: enough to do. If you use Quicken.
- 9:25Speaker 3: You just go into it, into the account, you click spending,
- 9:28Speaker 3: and then you sort it by payee and see, like
- 9:33Speaker 3: you know, I've got like there's so many ridiculous you know,
- 9:37Speaker 3: some of them most of them I need, but some
- 9:39Speaker 3: of them are just stupid. Like I I'm paying for
- 9:42Speaker 3: a Skype number nine dollars and ninety nine cents a month.
- 9:47Speaker 3: I mean, what do I need that for? Here? Yeah?
- 9:49Speaker 1: His Skype still a ramp.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Yeah Skype, hard to believe Microsoft owns them now, believe
- 9:55Speaker 3: it or not. And yes, uh you know it's there's
- 10:02Speaker 3: still a refound.
- 10:05Speaker 1: There. So listen. On top of all of this, you know,
- 10:09Speaker 1: I think it's really important that we also touch base
- 10:11Speaker 1: on the current state of affairs for the average consumer.
- 10:16Speaker 1: You and I spoke about where can we save money,
- 10:20Speaker 1: because unless you're going to get a second job, which
- 10:23Speaker 1: you may have to to make ends meet, unless you
- 10:26Speaker 1: win the lottery, you get an inheritance, you have to
- 10:29Speaker 1: figure out where the money is going to come from
- 10:31Speaker 1: to try and help you get out of debt. Right.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Credit card debt, unfortunately now is at an all time high,
- 10:38Speaker 1: and the interest rates are at an all time high.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Those two things, you know, coupled together are the perfect
- 10:45Speaker 1: storm for the consumer. Because if you're paying thirty percent
- 10:51Speaker 1: interest daily, compounding interest, which means your your balance increases
- 10:57Speaker 1: every day based upon the previous day's battance. So unless
- 11:02Speaker 1: you're paying it down, you don't have to spend another time.
- 11:05Speaker 1: At the end of the billage cycle, you're going to
- 11:07Speaker 1: owe more than you did at the beginning of the month.
- 11:10Speaker 1: So where's the money going to come from? Do an
- 11:13Speaker 1: insurance protection audit. Most people are either over insured or
- 11:18Speaker 1: under insured. Most people are over insured or they're paying
- 11:22Speaker 1: too much. Their situations have changed, their credit has changed.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Let's not forget insurance policies and premiums are directly tied
- 11:32Speaker 1: to our credit scores. They don't call them credit scores,
- 11:36Speaker 1: but it's an insurance score that uses the same information
- 11:40Speaker 1: as our credit scores. So do an insurance protection audit,
- 11:44Speaker 1: get some quotes on your homeowners and auto insurance and
- 11:48Speaker 1: try and figure that out. Health insurance costs or through
- 11:52Speaker 1: the roof. It's a little harder to shop around for
- 11:56Speaker 1: health insurance, but there are options out there. Maybe you
- 11:59Speaker 1: do a higher deductible, maybe you get into a health
- 12:02Speaker 1: you know, savings account for your higher deductible premiums. If
- 12:07Speaker 1: you don't go to the doctor or a lot, you
- 12:08Speaker 1: don't take a lot of medications, then maybe a higher
- 12:12Speaker 1: deductible is right for you. But you have to look
- 12:15Speaker 1: at all of this stuff, and you know what. It
- 12:17Speaker 1: takes a little time, but you and I spoke before.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Stop scrolling through TikTok and Facebook and watching TV. Take
- 12:26Speaker 1: an hour a half an hour of a couple of
- 12:30Speaker 1: days this week and sit down and figure out your
- 12:33Speaker 1: household budget. The typical household now is like a small business.
- 12:40Speaker 1: You could easily have one hundred transactions a week. So
- 12:44Speaker 1: figure out where the money is going and figure out
- 12:47Speaker 1: where I can save some money, take a look at
- 12:50Speaker 1: all of the things you're spending money on and ask
- 12:53Speaker 1: for a discount. When was the last time you went
- 12:56Speaker 1: back to your your internet provider, your cable company, you know,
- 13:00Speaker 1: maybe change your plans. Do you really need seven hundred
- 13:03Speaker 1: and nineteen channels when you only watch six of them?
- 13:06Speaker 1: Maybe you don't need cable at all. Use an internet
- 13:08Speaker 1: provider and some streaming services. Yeah, cut the court, cut
- 13:11Speaker 1: the court. So yeah, interesting. Interesting.
- 13:14Speaker 3: And the people that come to you, what percentage of
- 13:18Speaker 3: them are using like quick in or it's some personal
- 13:22Speaker 3: finance manager to track all their expenses?
- 13:25Speaker 1: Is it? Most people now use it? No, Unfortunately it's not.
- 13:29Speaker 1: And I'm a big advocate of mint dot com. It's
- 13:34Speaker 1: a great place for people to start that basic household
- 13:39Speaker 1: budget expense tool. Mint dot com, I'm a big fan.
- 13:44Speaker 1: But there are others out there, you know. Fortunately, there's
- 13:47Speaker 1: lots of different free softwares out there. I think quick
- 13:51Speaker 1: And you pay a couple of bucks for, but you
- 13:53Speaker 1: get what you pay for. It's a much better it's
- 13:55Speaker 1: a more robust service, and it pays for itself by
- 14:02Speaker 1: identifying these types of things like we just spoke about,
- 14:05Speaker 1: let's identify all of the payees that I'm paying every
- 14:09Speaker 1: single month my art earned money because at the end
- 14:12Speaker 1: of day, people do not pay attention, unfortunately to their
- 14:16Speaker 1: expenses unless it's a major ticket item. But all of
- 14:20Speaker 1: those onesies and twosies, you could do it. You could
- 14:23Speaker 1: do an analysis and find out, holy cow, I'm spending
- 14:29Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty dollars a month at wah wah
- 14:32Speaker 1: quick check these convenience stores. And my number one thing
- 14:37Speaker 1: message to everybody for this has been going on for
- 14:39Speaker 1: a decade. Stay out of convenience stores. Stay out of them.
- 14:43Speaker 1: There's a reason, there's a reason why they're there. You're
- 14:46Speaker 1: paying thirty percent premiums on every single piece of merchandise.
- 14:50Speaker 1: And if you go in for coffee, because the coffee's cheaper,
- 14:54Speaker 1: but that's the that's the front, that's the loss leader.
- 14:57Speaker 1: They want to bring in by offering a dollar cup
- 15:00Speaker 1: of coffee. But then while you're there, oh, let me
- 15:02Speaker 1: get a pack of dumb Oh let me get this
- 15:05Speaker 1: now it's it's somewhat painless, but you're paying a thirty
- 15:08Speaker 1: percent premium on every single item. Stay out of convenience
- 15:13Speaker 1: stores and you will thank me later. But do that
- 15:16Speaker 1: spend analysis too. Like you just if you don't want
- 15:18Speaker 1: to use the software, break out the pad and pen. Okay,
- 15:22Speaker 1: go through your bills, go through your statements, write it
- 15:25Speaker 1: all down if you want to write it, write it
- 15:27Speaker 1: and then figure out what can I what can I
- 15:30Speaker 1: get rid of? And it literally adds up. Like you said,
- 15:33Speaker 1: you know, one hundred dollars a month is a tho.
- 15:37Speaker 1: It's over one thousand dollars a year. WHU to at
- 15:39Speaker 1: the you know on December thirty first, if I started
- 15:42Speaker 1: handing out checks for one thousand dollars, people will get excited.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Well you can literally, you can hear it yourself a chat. Yeah,
- 15:49Speaker 1: it's so easy to do.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Hey, I've been using quick and literally for twenty five years,
- 15:54Speaker 3: but I haven't really used the budgeting thing, and not
- 15:57Speaker 3: a big budgeting person. But you know, I'm aware of
- 16:01Speaker 3: every dollar I spend because I update my transactions daily,
- 16:06Speaker 3: so I know where my money's going. But still it
- 16:09Speaker 3: could still get away from me.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Right absolutely, you know it could happen to the best
- 16:14Speaker 1: of us. So, especially if you're struggling, especially if you're
- 16:20Speaker 1: trying to make ends meet, especially if you have one
- 16:24Speaker 1: dollar in credit card debt. You have to. It's just
- 16:28Speaker 1: it's imperative that you figure out how you're going to
- 16:32Speaker 1: start to pay down that debt. Now, the good news
- 16:34Speaker 1: is just like it accelerates when you're you know, increasing
- 16:38Speaker 1: your balance, is the debt elimination process accelerates itself. So
- 16:45Speaker 1: as you start to pay down the debt, you're paying
- 16:48Speaker 1: down more and more of that principal ballance every dollar,
- 16:51Speaker 1: every single week, every single day, every single month. So
- 16:55Speaker 1: just start the process. But that also means that you're
- 16:59Speaker 1: not putting any additional charges on credit cards. You have
- 17:03Speaker 1: to be able to live off the income that you're making.
- 17:08Speaker 1: We do not want to put another dollar on a
- 17:10Speaker 1: credit card right now. It is the worst thing you
- 17:12Speaker 1: can do.
- 17:12Speaker 3: It sounds so simple and principle, doesn't that, But in reality,
- 17:17Speaker 3: you know, it's hard. But it requires some discipline, right,
- 17:21Speaker 3: It requires time and discipline.
- 17:23Speaker 1: It requires time and discipline. But again, people spend more
- 17:26Speaker 1: time planning vacations, People spend more time on social media,
- 17:30Speaker 1: people spend more time, you know, wasting time. Then sit
- 17:34Speaker 1: down and this is how you do. So we can
- 17:37Speaker 1: go on and on and on for days, but if
- 17:40Speaker 1: I were you, I would block time in a certain day.
- 17:45Speaker 1: If it's Sunday afternoon. If it's Sunday morning, maybe you
- 17:49Speaker 1: get up an hour earlier. One day, you spend you know,
- 17:52Speaker 1: seven instead of watching sports or something seven o'clock on
- 17:56Speaker 1: a Wednesday night. However you want to do it, you
- 17:59Speaker 1: block the time, and then you hold yourself accountable. This
- 18:03Speaker 1: is the time. I'm going to go through all my bills.
- 18:05Speaker 1: I'm going to create a budget. I'm going to do
- 18:07Speaker 1: a spend analysis, and I'm going to figure out how
- 18:10Speaker 1: to get out of debt. Because if you don't do
- 18:12Speaker 1: it that way, before you know it, people live in
- 18:15Speaker 1: a crisis mode every thirty days. Yeah, and they live
- 18:20Speaker 1: in a crisis mode every thirty days. You know. Oh,
- 18:23Speaker 1: it's the end of the month and I have to
- 18:26Speaker 1: kids are going back to school. I have to get
- 18:28Speaker 1: Johnny or Mary. I got to get the kids book bags.
- 18:31Speaker 1: I got to do that. So what happened They put
- 18:33Speaker 1: it on a credit card because they didn't plan So
- 18:35Speaker 1: at the end of the month, if you need groceries,
- 18:38Speaker 1: they put it on a credit card because they didn't
- 18:39Speaker 1: plan it. At the end of the month, they need
- 18:41Speaker 1: a tank of gas. So you have to sit down
- 18:44Speaker 1: and do this because it only gets worse. It just
- 18:49Speaker 1: continues to pile up. It's a very very slippery slope.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Debt is, you know, and it's painful at the end
- 18:56Speaker 1: of the day. Unfortunately, in this country, people commit suicide
- 19:00Speaker 1: because they're in debt. And I don't want to say
- 19:04Speaker 1: they don't they you know, they didn't have to be
- 19:06Speaker 1: in debt. They There's a great book out there called
- 19:08Speaker 1: You're Broke Because You Want to Be and I love
- 19:11Speaker 1: it because it really puts the onus back on the
- 19:14Speaker 1: consumer of the individual, and it says, hey, you're broke
- 19:17Speaker 1: because you want to be, and these are the reasons
- 19:19Speaker 1: why you're broke. One of the top reasons in that
- 19:22Speaker 1: book convenience stores and overpaying for things because your credit
- 19:27Speaker 1: score is not as high as it should be or
- 19:29Speaker 1: could be. You know your credit score is going to
- 19:32Speaker 1: cost or save you money every single day, so do
- 19:36Speaker 1: whatever you can. So start to focus on your credit.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Figure out why your scores are so low. A lot
- 19:42Speaker 1: of times the scores are low because the credit card
- 19:45Speaker 1: balances are so high, but you can work on that.
- 19:48Speaker 1: A lot of times the scores are so low because
- 19:50Speaker 1: you don't have enough open active accounts, so there are
- 19:54Speaker 1: there are credit builder accounts. Just like you spoke about
- 19:58Speaker 1: quicking and mint and all of these things, there are
- 20:00Speaker 1: credit builder accounts out there. Like there's a company called
- 20:04Speaker 1: self and they will give you a credit builder loan.
- 20:07Speaker 1: Then I am telling you that the end of twelve
- 20:10Speaker 1: twenty four months, it has a tremendous impact on your
- 20:14Speaker 1: overall credit score. So if you need to open up
- 20:17Speaker 1: secured cards, open up secured cards, and look, you can
- 20:21Speaker 1: raise your hand and say I need help, right, I'm
- 20:25Speaker 1: going to swallow my pride here, and I need help.
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- 20:35Speaker 1: hiring a personal trainer. Right. We do it all day,
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- 20:48Speaker 1: this is your first rodeo and you're trying to figure
- 20:51Speaker 1: this out, and you might raise your hand and say,
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- 21:01Speaker 1: that we've built. The credit consultation and analysis is free
- 21:06Speaker 1: at the end of that phone call. You're going to
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- 21:14Speaker 1: They're going to give you the roadmap. Now, if you
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