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Speaker 1: Kim is the reform mak Ferson coming up tonight. Legislation
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Speaker 1: passed in New South Wales this week makes it easier
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Speaker 1: to change your sex than to change your name. Housing
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Speaker 1: Minister Claire O'Neill insists the government can meet its housing target,
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Speaker 1: despite the fact economists say they're on track to fall
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Speaker 1: short by almost three hundred thousand dwellings. Barnaby Joyce will
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Speaker 1: join me. The Chinese government in a battle with the
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Speaker 1: Deli Lama. The CCP want to control who gets reincarnated
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Speaker 1: and where. I can't wait to talk to my panel
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Speaker 1: about that one. And UK markets drop after the government's
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Speaker 1: Chief Financial Minister devolves into tears in parliament. Patrick Christie's
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Speaker 1: will join Me live from London. But first, I was
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Speaker 1: astonished today to read about just how rapidly the Australian
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Speaker 1: public service has expanded under this labor government. Anthony Albanezi
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Speaker 1: isn't presiding over a nation, He's sharing a bloated bureaucracy
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Speaker 1: with a flag or is it three flags? Figures published
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Speaker 1: in the Australian Today show that nearly a million people
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Speaker 1: now work for government at some level, but the public
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Speaker 1: service numbers will they're the most shocking back. In twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 1: the public service employed just over one hundred and forty
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Speaker 1: four thousand people. That was a fourteen year low. But
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Speaker 1: this financial year the public service will balloon to two
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen thousand people. That's close to a forty
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Speaker 1: percent increase in just six years. It's not a workforce,
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Speaker 1: it's an infestation. If termites wore lanyards and carried clipboards,
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Speaker 1: they'd look like the Australian Public Service. While the private
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Speaker 1: sector wheezes under a mountain of red tape. The public
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Speaker 1: sector that grows like mold in a shower, quietly, rapidly
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Speaker 1: and with no sign of ever being scrubbed clean. Peter
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Speaker 1: Dutton promised he would Where's he these days? So what
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Speaker 1: are all these public servants doing? Well? A lot of
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Speaker 1: them work in what's called human services. That's public servants
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Speaker 1: managing other public servants. They've increased by forty eight percent
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Speaker 1: in the past six years. More than sixteen thousand public
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Speaker 1: servants have been recruited since twenty nineteen to help with
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Speaker 1: compliance and regulation. That's public servants slowing down the private
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Speaker 1: sector from doing anything useful. They've increased by seventeen percent
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Speaker 1: and the number of people working in strategic policy has
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Speaker 1: grown by one hundred and fifty four percent, which leads
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Speaker 1: one to think that public servants working in strategic policy
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Speaker 1: keep coming up with the idea to have more people
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Speaker 1: working in strategic policy. I mean, how else do you
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Speaker 1: interpret those figures Communications and marketing, which is public servants
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Speaker 1: we pay to tell us how well they're doing with
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Speaker 1: the money we pay them up by eighty nine percent.
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Speaker 1: I could go on, but it's almost a weekend and
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Speaker 1: I don't want to depress you. It's hard not to
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Speaker 1: think the public service has become a self licking ice cream,
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Speaker 1: self justifying, self replicating, and completely detached from anything resembling value.
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Speaker 2: Well, quite honestly, minister, I want a job where I
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Speaker 2: don't spend endless hours circulating information that isn't relevant about
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Speaker 2: subjects that don't matter to people who aren't interested. I
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Speaker 2: want a job where there's achievement rather than merely activity.
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Speaker 3: I'm tired of pushing paper.
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Speaker 2: I want to be able to point to something and
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Speaker 2: say I did that.
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Speaker 4: I don't understand.
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Speaker 1: I know that's why I'm leaving. I'm surely not telling
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Speaker 1: that the government of Britain is unimportant no, it's very important.
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Speaker 2: It's just that I haven't met anyone who's doing it.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, we are living in an episode of Yes, Minister.
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Speaker 1: The public service doesn't build bridges, they don't manufacture goods.
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Speaker 1: They do produce glossy reports that nobody reads except maybe
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Speaker 1: other bureaucrats, who will immediately commission a review into those reports.
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Speaker 1: But of course the review will likely require the hiring
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Speaker 1: of more public servants. You see how this works. If
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Speaker 1: this continues, Australia will follow the well worn path of
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Speaker 1: every collapsing state, bloated government, dead industry, and young families
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Speaker 1: desperately googling how to emmigrate to Poland. God help this
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Speaker 1: nation because the Australian public Service certainly won't. Have you
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Speaker 1: ever been able to get a government department staffer on
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Speaker 1: the phone exactly? Under this labor government services seem to
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Speaker 1: have decreased. But it's not all bad news, is it?
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Speaker 1: Of course it's not. According to the last Australian Public
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Speaker 1: Service census, diversity within our bureaucracy is at an all
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Speaker 1: time high. You'll be pleased to know the number of
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Speaker 1: public servants identifying as X rather than as say, male
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Speaker 1: or female has increased from one hundred and six to
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Speaker 1: nine hundred and seventy four. How that makes a scrap
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Speaker 1: of difference to productivity. I have no idea, but the
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Speaker 1: APS spent your money finding out that information, so it
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Speaker 1: must be important to someone somewhere. APS data also reveals,
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Speaker 1: get this, eight point eight percent of public servants regard
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Speaker 1: themselves as neurodivergent. Well, nine point three percent consider they
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Speaker 1: may be neurodivergent significantly. And this is interesting. Nine point
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Speaker 1: five percent of public servants who responded to the APS
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Speaker 1: census said they were unsure what neurodivergent meant. That may
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Speaker 1: be the most honest government statistic ever recorded. As of
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Speaker 1: December last year, the APS employed thirty eighty nine hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty staff with culturally and linguistically diverse backgrounds, six thousand,
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Speaker 1: six hundred and forty three Indigenous Australians, ten thousand, six
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four people with disabilities, and one hundred
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Speaker 1: and seventeen thousand, one hundred and ninety seven women. And
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Speaker 1: they know all that. How well, it's obvious we have
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Speaker 1: public servants dedicated to surveying the public service to ensure
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Speaker 1: that the public service is representative of the public. They're
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Speaker 1: barely servicing at this rate. In five years time, the
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Speaker 1: only Australians not working for the government will be the
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Speaker 1: ones trying to leave. Well, what are we to make
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Speaker 1: of the Albanesi government's stubborn refusal to lift defense spending
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Speaker 1: as a percentage of GDP. This is a government that,
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Speaker 1: on the one hand admits we live in the most
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Speaker 1: dangerous strategic times since World War II.
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Speaker 5: We confront the most challenging strategic circumstances since the Second
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Speaker 5: World War, both in our region and indeed around the world.
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Speaker 1: But on the other hand insists we don't need to
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Speaker 1: do anything about it. So how to explain this dangerous contradiction.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of reasons a government might hesitate to
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Speaker 1: increase defense spending, budget pressures, strategic ambiguity, domestic priorities. But
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Speaker 1: in Australia's case, I fear the real reason is much
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Speaker 1: simpler and far more juvenile. Anthony Albanesi won't boost defense
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Speaker 1: spending a percentage of GDP because, well, the suggestion came
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Speaker 1: from Donald Trump, didn't it. If the suggestion had come from, say,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Barack Obama, Anthony Albaneze would likely have
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Speaker 1: called a press conference and explained through tears how moved
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Speaker 1: he was by the President's strategic clarity. But because it's
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Speaker 1: Trump calling for labor to increase spending on defense, Well
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Speaker 1: the answer is no. Labor leaders, from the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: and his foreign minister to their ambassador in the US,
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Speaker 1: Kevin Rudd, have so demonized Orange Man Bad over the
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Speaker 1: past decade they're now loath to take any advice from him,
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Speaker 1: even if their stubbornness puts national security at risk. Big call, Well,
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Speaker 1: how else do you explain it? Instead of agreeing with
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump that we need to raise defense spending, the
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Speaker 1: Abenezi government has instead taken to saying they're all about
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Speaker 1: funding capability.
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Speaker 6: The circumstances are such, I know there will be more
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Speaker 6: capability required. I think we all understand that will fund
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Speaker 6: the capability that Australian needs.
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Speaker 1: You're playing semantics. What is increasing defense spending as a
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Speaker 1: percentage of GDP four other than funding capability? Our government
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Speaker 1: has reduced the national security of this country to a
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Speaker 1: game of semantics with Donald Trump. The irony is that
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Speaker 1: they accused Trump of being the one who makes everything personal. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: Foreign Minister Penny Wong says, there's no problem with the
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Speaker 1: US alliance, none whatsoever. I mean, apart from the fact
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Speaker 1: we're going to be hit with trade tariffs. The orcus
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Speaker 1: Pact is under review and our PM can't get a
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Speaker 1: meeting with the President. But other than that, everything is
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Speaker 1: going along just beautifully.
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Speaker 7: And it's another time in history that you can point
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Speaker 7: to that you've seen the alliances distant.
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Speaker 6: I don't agree with that. I mean, this is my
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Speaker 6: second time in Washington in six months. We've had two
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Speaker 6: quad meetings here. Richard's been here, Jim Chalmers, the Treasurer,
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Speaker 6: has been here, The Prime Minister's had three very constructive
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Speaker 6: conversations with the President.
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Speaker 1: Well, that answer was instructive. She's been to the US
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Speaker 1: Deputy Prime Minister, Richard Miles has been to the US Treasurer,
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Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers, he's been to the US. And Anthony Alberanezi,
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Speaker 1: the one guy who actually needs to be in the US, well,
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Speaker 1: he hasn't been to the US. But don't worry. Pennywong says,
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Speaker 1: Albanzi has had three very constructive conversations with the President,
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Speaker 1: otherwise known as phone calls. Phone calls that achieved, nothing resolved,
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Speaker 1: nothing and didn't even result in a dinner invitation. Nevertheless,
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Speaker 1: Pennywong was keen to reassure everyone that Donald Trump was
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Speaker 1: still keen to meet our Prime minister. And how does
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Speaker 1: she know that?
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Speaker 6: I had a really good meeting yesterday with Mico Rubio,
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Speaker 6: the Secretary of State, and he obviously expressed a regret
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Speaker 6: for the meeting having to be rescheduled. That president is
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Speaker 6: a very, very busy man. But I was pleased that
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Speaker 6: Secretary Rubio wed clear that you know obviously that they're
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Speaker 6: keen for a meeting, they want to reschedule it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So Penny Wong heard from Marco Rubio that Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump is keen to meet Anthony Albanesi, and so Penny
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Speaker 1: Wong will pass on to Anthony Albanezi what Marco Rubio
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Speaker 1: told her that he had heard from Donald Trump. Yep,
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Speaker 1: the alliance is in great shape. Well, it's now easier
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Speaker 1: to change your sex in New South Wales than it
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Speaker 1: is to change your name. And no, I'm not making
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Speaker 1: this up. New laws came into effect this week that
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Speaker 1: allow people to change sex on their birth certificate and
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Speaker 1: they can do it online as many times as they want.
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Speaker 1: Let me quote from the New South Wales government website quote.
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Speaker 1: There is no limit to the number of times you
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Speaker 1: can change your sex. However, if you also want to
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Speaker 1: change your name, there's a limit to how many times
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Speaker 1: you can do this. In New South Wales, a change
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Speaker 1: of name can only be done once every twelve months
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Speaker 1: and three times in total. So there you have it.
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Speaker 1: I can change my name from Jane to Jeremy and
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Speaker 1: from Jeremy to Joshua, but then a bureau crack tells me, okay,
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Speaker 1: that's enough, you have to stop now. On the other hand,
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Speaker 1: I could change from male to female and back to male,
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Speaker 1: and then to non binary, and then to female and
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Speaker 1: then to male and then to gender nonspecific and back again,
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Speaker 1: and the government just nods along approvingly. Joining me now
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Speaker 1: is skyyw's host Caroline Russo and sky New's contributor Joe Hildebrand. Carolina,
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Speaker 1: according to the New South Wales government, your name is sacred,
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Speaker 1: but your chromosomes, well they're not.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, And then this is the bit that I'm uncomfortable with.
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Speaker 7: Your name is not inherent to you, right, I mean,
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Speaker 7: when you're born you could have been named anything. And ultimately,
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Speaker 7: how much does it really matter. And I know there's
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Speaker 7: a few people who are along the way, you know,
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Speaker 7: either don't like what their parents called them more a
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Speaker 7: spelling or something like that, and they change their name, right,
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Speaker 7: And I can understand for practical purposes a person might
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Speaker 7: want to do that, But your biological sex is totally inherent.
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Speaker 7: And you know, we're all going to pass away at
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Speaker 7: some stage and the archaeologists of the future are not
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Speaker 7: going to know what your name are, but they are
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Speaker 7: going to be able to tell whether you're male or female.
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Speaker 7: So look, if people want to identify, however they want
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Speaker 7: to identify and knock yourself out, go for your life.
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Speaker 7: But there are some things which are just indisputable and
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Speaker 7: should be historical facts, and your sex is one of them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And this idea that you can only change
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Speaker 1: your name three times but your sex as anytime as
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Speaker 1: you like.
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Speaker 8: What are you're trying to hide, James? How many times
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Speaker 8: do you on Jeremiah or Joshua?
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Speaker 1: That The problem, of course, Joe, is if you get
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Speaker 1: stuck with a male name on your third change of
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Speaker 1: name and then decide you want to be a woman,
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Speaker 1: well then there's nothing you can do about it. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: this has all been done in the name of compassion.
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Speaker 1: We want to make it easy for people with gender
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Speaker 1: dysphoria to change their identity on their birth certificate. But
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Speaker 1: it's confusion code of fight into law, isn't it.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, I don't think this doesn't really bother me
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Speaker 8: at all. I think this is something that is a
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Speaker 8: matter of an individual's rights. It's not going to upset
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Speaker 8: anybody else.
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Speaker 1: It will because if you change your name on your
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Speaker 1: birth certificate, then suddenly you're allowed into female spaces. No
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Speaker 1: one can dispute the fact that you're a woman, though
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Speaker 1: you're a biological man. It does affect other people, doesn't it.
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Speaker 1: A birth certificate's not a record of your feelings. It's
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Speaker 1: a record of fact.
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Speaker 8: But also if you're talking about other identity documents like
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Speaker 8: your passport, like your driver's license or whatever, if you
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Speaker 8: are absolutely convinced that you were born in the wrong body,
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Speaker 8: and I think there's a debate to be had about
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Speaker 8: whether there's an over diagnosis and whether you know, other
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Speaker 8: conditions such as autism are being confused with genderdice forhoia
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Speaker 8: or whatever. But there absolutely definitely is a real thing
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Speaker 8: called genderdicepharia. I know people who have gone through it.
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Speaker 8: And these are people I know, three women. I couldn't,
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Speaker 8: for the life of me see them as men under
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Speaker 8: any circumstances. For actually now they think about it, and
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Speaker 8: so the idea that they would have to carry out
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Speaker 8: a passport or a driver's license that actually says they're
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Speaker 8: a man, and to be honest, even the idea they
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Speaker 8: have to use men's toilets would be pretty weird to me.
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Speaker 8: And I don't think anyone would be threatened by them.
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Speaker 8: I think there are you know, there's a debate to
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Speaker 8: be had about things like, you know, whether it's unfair
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Speaker 8: for they're competing in female only sports because they have
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Speaker 8: an advantage. All these people are not keen sports people,
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Speaker 8: so I think the people are say from that. But again,
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Speaker 8: I think this is something where it really just does
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Speaker 8: affect that person. It's what they feel comfortable with, and
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Speaker 8: I've got no problem with it. I would say live
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Speaker 8: and let live, okay, and.
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Speaker 1: To totally disagree with yours. Let's move on to some
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Speaker 1: other issues that are making headlines around the country right now. Sadly,
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Speaker 1: the shocking allegations of child abuse that a childcare center
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Speaker 1: in Melbourne have sparked now controversial calls for men to
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Speaker 1: be banned from working in childcare centers altogether. Child abuse
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Speaker 1: victims advocate and founding member of the Independent Collective of
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Speaker 1: Survivors Louise Edmonds. She spoke to Sky News earlier today.
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Speaker 1: Here's what she said.
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Speaker 9: If we're in the immediate measures actually move men out
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Speaker 9: of those intimate spaces, that is one area to bring
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Speaker 9: calm and to bring security to children, but also security
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Speaker 9: and calm to parents. There's another opportunity to actually put
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Speaker 9: in a child intimate care waiver which can literally be
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Speaker 9: done overnight in everyday care center across Australia, which actually
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Speaker 9: allows parents to opt in or opt out to have
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Speaker 9: a male care look after their child.
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Speaker 1: Education mister Jason Claire was asked about the possibility of
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Speaker 1: a ban on all men and here's what he had
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Speaker 1: to say.
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Speaker 10: I don't think that's going to be the solution here,
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Speaker 10: and the former Deputy Ombudsman brief Education ministers on Friday.
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Speaker 10: That's where CCTV reforms coming from. That's where increasing penalties
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Speaker 10: and more information for parents is coming from. We've got
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Speaker 10: to bring all of these recommendations together. That's happening now.
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Speaker 1: He also floated the idea of cutting funding from centers
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Speaker 1: that failed to comply with government regulations.
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Speaker 10: About seventy percent of the funding that runs a center
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Speaker 10: comes from Australian taxpayers, comes from the Commonwealth government through
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Speaker 10: the Childcare subsidy. It's what makes these centers work, and
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Speaker 10: if they're not working in the interest of our kids,
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Speaker 10: then we've got to have the power to be able
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Speaker 10: to cut that funding off.
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Speaker 1: Caron, why wouldn't we ban men from working in childcare?
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Speaker 1: It seems a pretty simple way to safeguard our kids
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Speaker 1: when you recognize the overwhelming number of perpetrators men, just
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Speaker 1: get them out of childcare centers.
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Speaker 7: I'm a bit uncomfortable with any sort of blanket ban
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Speaker 7: on any gender, and I just think that, you know,
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Speaker 7: I'm very very uncomfortable with that. And there are really
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Speaker 7: good male role models, and they're really good female role models.
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Speaker 7: And there's been been plenty of discussion and commentary, not
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Speaker 7: in relation to this, but more broadly about there being
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Speaker 7: too much feminization in and around education, and male role
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Speaker 7: models are good. I have a tendency not exactly with
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Speaker 7: everything that Jason Claire has said, but from the point
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Speaker 7: of view that you're essentially trying to deal with a symptom,
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Speaker 7: not a problem. And just to Alan, who loves to
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Speaker 7: ban things, she wants to ban the personal use of
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Speaker 7: mobile phones, just like she wanted to ban machetes, and
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Speaker 7: apparently that solves all the problems. So I think we
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Speaker 7: need to look a little further than just banning people
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Speaker 7: or equipment or whatever. You actually got to deal with
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Speaker 7: what the issue is. But obviously, on Joe's arguing on
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Speaker 7: the previous question, all those blokes could just identify as
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Speaker 7: women and then the problem is solved.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I was thinking exactly that as you were speaking, Carolina.
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Speaker 1: A lot of parents tip to say that they will
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Speaker 1: or here's an option you could opt out of having
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Speaker 1: your child in a room that's looked after by a male.
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Speaker 1: A lot of parents feel strongly about this.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I think this is I mean, I'm sure
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Speaker 8: the person advocating for it has their own story to tell,
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Speaker 8: but it's patently ridiculous the idea. I mean, firstly, just
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Speaker 8: because and it is absolutely true that the vast majority
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Speaker 8: of sexual abuses are male, and that is perhaps due
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Speaker 8: to some sort of biological realities. That does not mean, however,
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Speaker 8: that most men or a large number of men are
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Speaker 8: sexual predators or sexual abuses, and.
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Speaker 1: So, of course it doesn't mean that, but is there
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Speaker 1: not an argument to say, But if our number one
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Speaker 1: priority is protecting vulnerable children, then you know what this
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Speaker 1: is an area.
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Speaker 8: If you're going to protect them, then you know you
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Speaker 8: would never let them out of the house. And of
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Speaker 8: course you probably wouldn't let them in the house because
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Speaker 8: most abuse occurs in the home anyway, and that the
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Speaker 8: abuser is known to the child, so you wouldn't actually
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Speaker 8: let them anyway. In fact, if you want to keep
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Speaker 8: them completely safe, do not let them have any contact
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Speaker 8: with any adults ever. Of course, then they would probably
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Speaker 8: starve to death, but at least they wouldn't get diabetes,
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Speaker 8: so you'd be keeping them safe from that. I mean,
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Speaker 8: this is the sort of knee jerk, blunt instrument approach
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Speaker 8: to things that clearly do not think these things through.
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Speaker 8: These are obviously extremely horrible, horrible incidences, but they are
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Speaker 8: thank god, extremely rare, extremely rare. So the idea that
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Speaker 8: you would ban half the population from doing a job
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Speaker 8: where there is a skill shortage, where we are trying
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Speaker 8: to get more people in and where the vast majority
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Speaker 8: of workers are already overwhelmingly women again, is just insane?
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Speaker 8: I mean, talk about doing more harm than good.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask Caroline a question on this. You mentioned
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Speaker 1: Jacinta Allen, the Victorian premier. She's announced there'll be an
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Speaker 1: immediate review into childcare safety in Victoria, led by former
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Speaker 1: South Australian Premier Jake Weatherall. What was interesting was Jacinta
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Speaker 1: Allen has said though the review hasn't yet begun, but
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Speaker 1: she said she will adopt every single review, every single
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Speaker 1: recommendation from that review, which, of course, as I said,
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Speaker 1: has not yet even begun. Is that wise? I realized
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of angst about this issue, But to
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Speaker 1: just immediately say before the review, whatever recommendations there are,
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Speaker 1: will adopt them. Is that smart politics? Is it smart leadership?
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Speaker 7: I think it's more of what Joe was saying. I
20:15
Speaker 7: think it's very reactive and obviously it's a really emotional.
20:20
Speaker 7: It's a really emotional issue and it hits a lot
20:22
Speaker 7: of a.
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Speaker 1: Lot of people.
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Speaker 7: Really had a lot of people have their kids in
20:26
Speaker 7: childcare or grand kids in childcare, but ultimately don't even
20:30
Speaker 7: know what the terms of reference are and whether something
20:33
Speaker 7: is practical or possible or fits in with or you know,
20:39
Speaker 7: fits in with the federal interface, or whether it can
20:43
Speaker 7: be done from a cost point of view, and who's
20:45
Speaker 7: carrying the cost and compliance burden of these things. All
20:49
Speaker 7: of that needs to be considered, and what ultimately the
20:51
Speaker 7: solution needs to be is is the most practical and
20:55
Speaker 7: effective solution? Just inter Allen, You know, I mean, she's
20:59
Speaker 7: up the pro erbil on this one here, because you know,
21:02
Speaker 7: she doesn't want to wear the blame for it, so
21:04
Speaker 7: to the extent that she's able to say, well, I'll
21:07
Speaker 7: adopt the recommendation, and if it's someone else's recommendation, then
21:10
Speaker 7: I'm in the clear. I mean, of course it's politically
21:13
Speaker 7: expedient for her to do that, but I think it's
21:16
Speaker 7: I think it's a knee jerk reaction, and I think
21:18
Speaker 7: it's political self preservation in action. And I think she's
21:22
Speaker 7: just showing again that you know, she not a particularly
21:25
Speaker 7: great leader and not a particularly level head.
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Speaker 1: All Right, If you thought protesters couldn't get any more annoying,
21:32
Speaker 1: think again. The climate crusaders at Rising Tide, those tireless
21:35
Speaker 1: warriors against call and common sense, they're back, and this
21:38
Speaker 1: time they're not just blocking ports they're running a summer
21:41
Speaker 1: school for serial pests, according to promotional materials Rising Tide,
21:46
Speaker 1: or running a camp featuring a series of workshops and
21:49
Speaker 1: training to help protesters protest betha Boy, which I mean
21:53
Speaker 1: be even more annoyingly disruptive than ever. Joe, I don't
21:56
Speaker 1: like it. But it's not illegal.
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Speaker 8: No, that's incredibly annoying. These people are fools. They are
22:03
Speaker 8: counterproductive because they just annoy people and turn people off
22:06
Speaker 8: their couse. They don't provide any practical pathways to the
22:11
Speaker 8: great utopia that they're advocating for. These things aren't new.
22:15
Speaker 8: There's always been these sort of activist boot camps. I
22:18
Speaker 8: even attended one for a TV show many many years ago,
22:21
Speaker 8: where they sort of selling people the best way to
22:23
Speaker 8: chain yourself to a motor you know, a bulldozer or
22:27
Speaker 8: whatever it was. I mean, it's you know, there's people
22:30
Speaker 8: clearly don't have anything better to do and don't have
22:33
Speaker 8: anything constructive to do, and so they just decide to
22:35
Speaker 8: obstruct something that is going to happen anyway and make
22:39
Speaker 8: people who might otherwise be sympathetic think that they're just
22:43
Speaker 8: a bunch of you know, noodle armed tipps who have
22:45
Speaker 8: nothing better to do.
22:46
Speaker 1: Oh, it's going to say, Kerolin, what would you expect
22:48
Speaker 1: to learn at one of these training seminars like how
22:50
Speaker 1: to glue yourself to the road while keeping your Instagram
22:52
Speaker 1: followers updated?
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Speaker 7: Yes I have I have no idea, but I do
22:57
Speaker 7: love that they have a tiered pricing rush and it's
23:01
Speaker 7: free if your underage. First nations are expiring housing instability.
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Speaker 11: Which I thought they were really.
23:07
Speaker 7: Three interesting niche groups to not charge. But look, I
23:10
Speaker 7: look forward to this and I look forward to, you know,
23:13
Speaker 7: the protest like I do every year, not because they
23:15
Speaker 7: get in the way of police and all that sort
23:17
Speaker 7: of thing, but so that we can all point out
23:19
Speaker 7: that they're all out there in you know, you know barges.
23:25
Speaker 1: Or whatever, that they're.
23:27
Speaker 7: Always made tony, but they're always made out of petroleum
23:30
Speaker 7: based products. So that there's always my favorite part.
23:35
Speaker 3: Of these protests.
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Speaker 7: No credibility, but you know, got to have a giggle
23:39
Speaker 7: from the sideline. Just don't get in the way of
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Speaker 7: the cops.
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Speaker 1: They do really good work if you're not inconvenienced by them.
23:44
Speaker 1: The irony, I got to say, is highly entertaining. Carolinus
23:48
Speaker 1: build a brand. I appreciate you joining me tonight, we'll
23:51
Speaker 1: stick around. Coming up after the break, Barnaby Joyce will
23:54
Speaker 1: talk to us about the Housing Minister Claire O'Neill, who
23:57
Speaker 1: insists the government can meet its target despite the fact
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Speaker 1: economists say they're about three hundred thousand houses short. Barnaby
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Speaker 1: Joyce next, well, welcome back to the program. In no
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Speaker 1: shock to anyone, apart from members of the government who
24:13
Speaker 1: seem continually shocked. Labor is projected to fall short on
24:17
Speaker 1: its promise to build one point two million houses within
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Speaker 1: five years. Economists, including Master Builders Australia Chief Economist Shane Garrett,
24:26
Speaker 1: said today that on current projections, Labour will fall short
24:30
Speaker 1: by two hundred and eighty five thousand dwellings, as Maxwell
24:34
Speaker 1: Smart would say, missed it by that much. Joining me
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Speaker 1: now is nationals MP Barnaby Joyce. Barnaby Claire O'Neal maintains
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Speaker 1: Labor can hit their goal no matter what the data says.
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Speaker 3: Not a chance when you look at it.
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Speaker 12: What has the government actually done removing government regulations which
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Speaker 12: they are responsible for, that is pre eminent in this
24:57
Speaker 12: at the initial part of constructing house. I was talking
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Speaker 12: to a person the other day who went to renovate
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Speaker 12: three units, three units down on the coast, two hundred
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Speaker 12: thousand dollars in government charges before he had even put
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Speaker 12: a nailing. I went out to them and the other.
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Speaker 3: Day for them to extend.
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Speaker 12: An age care facility, an age care facility in the
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Speaker 12: up hundred and a small town on ten acres of
25:21
Speaker 12: land basically cleared only a couple of trees on. Listen
25:24
Speaker 12: to this three point five million dollars that had to
25:29
Speaker 12: they're supposed to pay in carbon off sets. This is
25:32
Speaker 12: the same governments that tell us they're going to fix
25:35
Speaker 12: the housing crisis. They've got no interest in fixing the
25:37
Speaker 12: house and crisis. They've got no interest in changing any
25:40
Speaker 12: of the regulations they get. We've got no interest in
25:42
Speaker 12: changing the money that goes in their way. They've got
25:45
Speaker 12: no interest in opening up the state forest so we
25:46
Speaker 12: get in more timber. They've got no interest in changing
25:49
Speaker 12: how we developed deliver power so we can have more
25:52
Speaker 12: affordable componentry of houses.
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Speaker 13: This has got no chance of flying the way they
25:58
Speaker 13: want because they if you look down earnestly into their heart,
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Speaker 13: they've done nothing to actually change the fundamentals of what
26:06
Speaker 13: it costs to build a house.
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Speaker 1: It's starting to look like Penny Wong's Washington trip might
26:11
Speaker 1: have been a total waste of time. The Foreign Minister
26:13
Speaker 1: returns to Australia with their hands as empty as the promises.
26:15
Speaker 1: She left with no trade deal, no clarity on Orcust,
26:18
Speaker 1: still no dinner date for Anthony Alberanezi. Is this just
26:22
Speaker 1: another display of what we've just been talking about, labor ineptitude.
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Speaker 12: Well, it's a display of what we have rhetoric but
26:31
Speaker 12: no delivery, rhetoric but no delivery in the housing market
26:34
Speaker 12: because they don't make any fundamental changes. Rhetoric, but we
26:37
Speaker 12: can't actually even get a cup of key between the
26:39
Speaker 12: Prime Minister of Australia and the President of the United States.
26:42
Speaker 12: And that is, ladies and gentlemen. That's incredibly dangerous for us,
26:45
Speaker 12: incredibly dangerous during the review of AUCUST. And that I
26:49
Speaker 12: know there's a tenuous type of approach now in the
26:52
Speaker 12: United States, but that should make us even more focus
26:55
Speaker 12: on nailing this agreement down, and we haven't, and we
26:59
Speaker 12: haven't got feather to fly with. If China, a communist China,
27:03
Speaker 12: not the Chinese people, but a communist regime decides to
27:06
Speaker 12: pull us on, we better realize how important this is
27:12
Speaker 12: and they haven't nailed this down. We're miles from home
27:16
Speaker 12: on this one, and that's really, really, really dangerous.
27:20
Speaker 1: We've got this problem now, barnaby, don't we wear I'm
27:22
Speaker 1: not sure many of the public actually believe what's coming
27:26
Speaker 1: out of the mouths of government ministers, whether it's Claire
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Speaker 1: O'Neil behind by about two hundred and eighty five thousand
27:32
Speaker 1: houses insisting it's all going to be fine, or Penny
27:35
Speaker 1: Wong who boasts it because Anti Albanezi had three phone
27:39
Speaker 1: calls with Trump that the relationship is aoka that just continues.
27:45
Speaker 1: You know, renewable energy, We're going to be a renewable
27:48
Speaker 1: energy superpower. No one believes that, though we hear it
27:52
Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, they've got less credibility to
27:56
Speaker 1: remember Iraq's information minister during the Iraqi War who used
27:59
Speaker 1: to stand in front and I mean it's become like that,
28:02
Speaker 1: hasn't it.
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Speaker 12: Comic Kalali comic Kali was was was a phenomenal We
28:09
Speaker 12: goave for him. But we've got common We've got comical
28:12
Speaker 12: Penny in comical elbow.
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Speaker 13: It's just and.
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Speaker 1: It's renewables, intermitt of power.
28:17
Speaker 12: We're going to run us around an intimitt of power.
28:19
Speaker 12: You're going to change the.
28:21
Speaker 1: Temperature of the globe.
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Speaker 12: It's insane and it's doing this massive damage, and when
28:26
Speaker 12: we should becoming.
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Speaker 13: As powerful as possible, as quickly as possible.
28:29
Speaker 12: Basically throwing the rule book out the window and saying
28:32
Speaker 12: it's all about looking after our kids and our grandkids
28:34
Speaker 12: because the world they're going to grow up is vastly
28:37
Speaker 12: different to the world that we.
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Speaker 3: Were blessed with.
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Speaker 1: We're not doing that. We're telling them we're going to
28:42
Speaker 1: change the rain.
28:44
Speaker 13: We're going to fight the weather. We're going to stop
28:46
Speaker 13: bushfires and droughts and cyclones all by itself, just with
28:49
Speaker 13: crispone and the dispatch box and Camber pathologically insane.
28:55
Speaker 12: In the meantime, we've got fotillas doing li fire exercise
28:58
Speaker 12: exercises in the Casman say, adjacent to Sydney, Sydney Sydney
29:03
Speaker 12: practicing for Sydney.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. If Retric could build houses and if spin could
29:08
Speaker 1: defend the nation, we'd have nothing to worry about. But
29:11
Speaker 1: unfortunately we actually require a government that gets things done.
29:16
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, here's some good foreign policy news. The
29:19
Speaker 1: Fijian Prime Minister has announced he doesn't want any China
29:22
Speaker 1: military bases in the Pacific. I have listened to what
29:25
Speaker 1: he had to say today.
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Speaker 6: Is there one to come?
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Speaker 1: Would welcome them? No, that's good news for Australia, right, Barnaby, that.
29:36
Speaker 3: Is good news.
29:37
Speaker 12: It just goes to show you the sort of pressure
29:39
Speaker 12: that's coming on those specific gals from China. We haven't
29:42
Speaker 12: had the same sort of good news from the Solomons.
29:44
Speaker 12: We know China has been interested in Vanawatu team or
29:47
Speaker 12: less Day Kirabas, all these areas. I had a crack
29:50
Speaker 12: at Papua New Guinea. This is the encirclement of Australia.
29:55
Speaker 12: This is the greatest tactics. So they can get a
29:57
Speaker 12: foot on your throat and basically pressure you into submission
30:01
Speaker 12: onto their terms. And if that happens, Australia is basically over.
30:06
Speaker 12: You'll be living here, but it won't be the same nation.
30:09
Speaker 12: So having Fiji say that is good. But by gosh,
30:11
Speaker 12: that's another clarion call wake up, forget about renewable and
30:16
Speaker 12: intermittence and.
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Speaker 13: All this other tripe that you've been focused on. Focused
30:20
Speaker 13: on your nation. Just the fact that instead of ending
30:24
Speaker 13: in Rambuka had to say.
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Speaker 12: That shows that the pressure was on him to actually
30:29
Speaker 12: let the Chinese in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, really good point, Barnaby Joyce. It's always good to
30:33
Speaker 1: speak with you. Thanks for joining me tonight. We'll stick
30:36
Speaker 1: around coming up after the break. Speaking of the Chinese
30:38
Speaker 1: Communist Party, they want to control who gets reincarnated and where,
30:44
Speaker 1: Plus the Regional Council that's millions of dollars in debt
30:47
Speaker 1: and his staff working remotely from Caribbean islands. All of
30:51
Speaker 1: that with my panel in a moment. Welcome back to
30:57
Speaker 1: the program. Well, there's a spiritual standoff li between the
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Speaker 1: Chinese Commonist Party and the Delai Lama, the spiritual leader
31:04
Speaker 1: of Tibetan Buddhists, is nearing the end of his life,
31:07
Speaker 1: and according to tradition, he'll soon be reincarnated, something Tibetan's
31:12
Speaker 1: believe he's personally managed to do fourteen times since fifteen
31:15
Speaker 1: eighty seven, which is pretty impressive for someone without a
31:18
Speaker 1: LinkedIn profile. The Delai Lama has insisted his next life
31:22
Speaker 1: will take place outside of Chinese control, but Beijing has
31:26
Speaker 1: declared that reincarnation now falls under the jurisdiction of the
31:30
Speaker 1: Chinese Commonist Party, and the next living Buddha will arrive
31:34
Speaker 1: from within Chinese borders, preferably with party approved thoughts and
31:38
Speaker 1: working knowledge of Marxism joining me now Asky and his contributors,
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Speaker 1: Evelyn Ray and Louise Roberts. Louise, after mastering surveillance, censorship,
31:47
Speaker 1: and manufacturing knockoff handbags, China has now set sites on
31:50
Speaker 1: regulating reincarnation. Can you believe it?
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Speaker 11: No, It's absolutely incredible. There's no lengths to which they
31:55
Speaker 11: will stop to control everyone's life. I think in China,
31:58
Speaker 11: and particularly with the Delai Lama, his clear message to
32:01
Speaker 11: them is you will not control who my success there is.
32:03
Speaker 11: I've set up a trust and they will actually decide
32:06
Speaker 11: who the next Dalai Lamar is, despite China's office plan
32:10
Speaker 11: to interfere and control that process your clia.
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Speaker 1: It's political for the Chinese at least, but everyone. How
32:16
Speaker 1: does spiritual succession and central planning go together?
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Speaker 14: Well?
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Speaker 15: I think that the Chinese Communist government are their own God,
32:26
Speaker 15: their own religion. They're the arbiter of all truth and
32:28
Speaker 15: everybody must adhere to their truths.
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Speaker 3: So, you know, but I have a little bit of
32:34
Speaker 3: a different take on this, perhaps, James. You know, I
32:37
Speaker 3: think what the.
32:38
Speaker 15: Chinese government perhaps understand and perhaps understand better than those
32:42
Speaker 15: of us in Western nations, is that religion is inherently political,
32:48
Speaker 15: you know, because how people live is going to determine
32:52
Speaker 15: kind of what their political leanings are, and so they're
32:56
Speaker 15: just kind of morphing, you know, the two together, and
32:58
Speaker 15: it is inherent by nature, you know. I think that
33:02
Speaker 15: the problem here that I have is that not that
33:06
Speaker 15: they're trying to protect you know, their nation from foreign
33:11
Speaker 15: politics and foreign religions. It's the fact that it's the
33:14
Speaker 15: Chinese government doing it, you know, like those of us
33:17
Speaker 15: in Western nations, like we historically have actually done things
33:22
Speaker 15: very similar.
33:23
Speaker 3: You know, historically speaking, every religion that was introduced in
33:26
Speaker 3: the Western nations was only.
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Speaker 15: Legal so much as that the Christian laws would allow,
33:32
Speaker 15: like I can't go outside and sacrifice agoat, I can't
33:35
Speaker 15: you know, participate in polygamy. There are certain punishments for
33:38
Speaker 15: certain crimes. Like I said, the problem here is that
33:42
Speaker 15: it's the Chinese Communist government doing it, and you know,
33:46
Speaker 15: foreign politics, foreign religions.
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Speaker 3: They're very linked, and I think China see that.
33:50
Speaker 15: I think in Western nations, and again I can't believe
33:53
Speaker 15: I'm saying this. I think we should perhaps take note
33:56
Speaker 15: of what they're doing, because we do have good, prosperous
34:00
Speaker 15: nations that are for freedom and liberty here in the West,
34:03
Speaker 15: and we should protect that and perhaps not allow certain
34:06
Speaker 15: foreign religions and ideologies into our countries.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's an interesting argument. Certainly the Chinese Communist Party
34:13
Speaker 1: don't brook any disagreement on that one. I want to
34:16
Speaker 1: move on to something from religion to cricket, which based
34:19
Speaker 1: some would say I'm repeating myself, wouldn't they, or maybe
34:22
Speaker 1: that's football. But as you would have heard yesterday, Cricket
34:24
Speaker 1: Australia has done it again. They've declared that Australia Day
34:27
Speaker 1: is simply too problematic for a game of cricket, Bowling
34:31
Speaker 1: a bouncer as a hate crime if it's done on
34:33
Speaker 1: January twenty sixth apparently, But should we really be surprised?
34:36
Speaker 1: This is the same Cricket Australia that replaced batsmen with
34:39
Speaker 1: batter because clearly the greatest threat to equality was gendered scorecards. Well,
34:44
Speaker 1: the backlash has been fierce. A Courier Mail survey of
34:48
Speaker 1: several thousand people found ninety seven percent of people want
34:52
Speaker 1: cricket played on Australia Day. Louise, do you understand that
34:57
Speaker 1: ninety seven percent would have that view or surprised by that.
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Speaker 1: I'm a little shocked that it wasn't one hundred percent
35:03
Speaker 1: of people.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm not surprised if it's high because this is
35:06
Speaker 11: a classic case of institutional decisions being at old with
35:09
Speaker 11: what actual normal Australians want, and Cricket Australia should not
35:13
Speaker 11: be calling itself Cricket Australia if they're not going to
35:15
Speaker 11: represent the views of assies who play and watch cricket.
35:18
Speaker 11: It's as simple as that for me and Australia Day,
35:21
Speaker 11: which is so under siege from many political activists and groups,
35:25
Speaker 11: why can't we just have a simple game of cricket
35:27
Speaker 11: on in January twenty six.
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Speaker 1: I think you've raised a really good point that it's
35:30
Speaker 1: another great example of institutions, corporations, sporting groups, government bodies
35:35
Speaker 1: being completely out of step with the public mood, Evelyn.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, whatever the reason is that they're not actually having
35:45
Speaker 15: a game, it doesn't look good. You know, people are
35:48
Speaker 15: going to assume the worst because of like there's a
35:51
Speaker 15: long history of you know, cricket teams taking political stances
35:56
Speaker 15: on things. I mean, look at their stance with the
35:58
Speaker 15: lgbt Q community, things like they're more than happy to
36:02
Speaker 15: take stances on things.
36:03
Speaker 3: And because of that and because.
36:05
Speaker 15: Of their history, people will assume the absolute worst when
36:09
Speaker 15: they look at this timetable, And like Louise said, like
36:12
Speaker 15: the Australian people have spoken, and not only have we
36:15
Speaker 15: spoken ninety seven percent polling, we've spoken through a referendum.
36:19
Speaker 15: And I tie all of these same issues with the
36:22
Speaker 15: referendum because that was all about division, divisionary politics, and
36:27
Speaker 15: it's all coming out with these exact same things.
36:29
Speaker 3: The root cause is the same thing.
36:31
Speaker 15: It's division, and we've had a massive referendum to show that.
36:36
Speaker 15: And it's really disappointing as an Australian, especially when you
36:39
Speaker 15: look across the ponded America, who at the moment seem
36:42
Speaker 15: to be having a lot of common sense about things,
36:45
Speaker 15: especially in their sporting industry.
36:47
Speaker 3: You go over there and there are.
36:49
Speaker 15: So many good things, positive things that are happening again,
36:52
Speaker 15: and I just I can't believe that Australia is just
36:56
Speaker 15: so committed to living in this divisive fantasy land. And
37:01
Speaker 15: I think it's about time we wake up from this
37:02
Speaker 15: dystopian nightmare and just be normal.
37:05
Speaker 3: Just common sense normal again, would be great.
37:08
Speaker 1: The thing that really annoys me about this Cricket Australia
37:10
Speaker 1: decision is that they have given a reason and the
37:13
Speaker 1: reason for not playing on Australia Days. There's a big bash,
37:16
Speaker 1: it's a domestic limited overs game the day before, so
37:21
Speaker 1: it's a scheduling issue. Well, your Cricket Australia. You set
37:24
Speaker 1: the schedule, so that excuse just does not wash with me.
37:28
Speaker 1: I would prefer, though I disagree intensely, if Cricket Australia
37:33
Speaker 1: just came out and said, look, we reject Australia Day.
37:35
Speaker 1: We don't think it's appropriate. We think it's a day
37:37
Speaker 1: of morning or invasion day or whatever. That's why rather
37:40
Speaker 1: than feed us this line that will it's scheduling. You
37:43
Speaker 1: control the diary, Cricket Australia, so at least be honest
37:47
Speaker 1: if you're going to diss our National Day, rather than
37:50
Speaker 1: pretend that you didn't really mean to and maybe next year.
37:53
Speaker 1: A Regional West Australian Council is in jeopardy after an
37:57
Speaker 1: audit from the state government watchdog. Now the council is
38:01
Speaker 1: under fire for shocking mismanagement and poor governance. Those aren't
38:04
Speaker 1: my words. That's from the auditor after the report found
38:08
Speaker 1: the council that is responsible get this, for a population
38:10
Speaker 1: of three and a half thousand people, they've got debts
38:13
Speaker 1: of fourteen million dollars. But that's not maybe the most
38:18
Speaker 1: shocking part. In addition, the report found that a senior
38:21
Speaker 1: project officer employed at the council for a year had
38:25
Speaker 1: been working remotely from a Caribbean island, So Louise. Which
38:29
Speaker 1: is more shocking that a council responsible for three and
38:31
Speaker 1: a half thousand people's fourteen million bucks in debt, or
38:35
Speaker 1: that one of their staffers is on the beach in
38:37
Speaker 1: the Caribbean. Apparently twelve hour delay in terms of time zone.
38:41
Speaker 11: How does that work with a zoom call?
38:43
Speaker 1: I don't know, But apparently it's fine with this council.
38:45
Speaker 11: Yes, well it was fine with the now former CEO,
38:48
Speaker 11: I might add here obviously signed off and and thought
38:50
Speaker 11: it was okay. But I mean this like the new
38:53
Speaker 11: faulty towers of councils, isn't it. It's got the huge
38:55
Speaker 11: debt and it's also got some of these remote staff
38:57
Speaker 11: who were taking work from home to the utmost extreme
39:00
Speaker 11: by parking up in the Caribbean, a Caribean garden rather
39:03
Speaker 11: or Caribbean island, and thinking it's okay to work from
39:06
Speaker 11: there and run the council and take the ratepayers coin
39:09
Speaker 11: at the same time, it's insanity.
39:11
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to argue Evelyn that these two instances
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Speaker 1: are inextricably linked. A council of that size so small
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Speaker 1: that as people working in the Caribbean is probably not
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Speaker 1: paying that much attention to the books. The fourteen million
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Speaker 1: dollars in debt, staff working on beaches overseas, that's all good.
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Speaker 15: Honestly, I'd like to know where the fourteen million dollars
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Speaker 15: has gone to. Has it gone to this bloke or
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Speaker 15: a woman sitting on the beach sipping a cocktail via zoom?
39:43
Speaker 15: I honestly can't fathom how this sort of thing happens.
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Speaker 15: But to be honest, it's completely on brand for governments
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Speaker 15: in our sad little country that we live in.
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Speaker 3: You know, it is exactly what we have.
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Speaker 15: Come to expect as the Australian people, that our whether
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Speaker 15: it be local, whether it be state or federal, are
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Speaker 15: going to completely mismanage our hard earned tax payer dollars.
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Speaker 3: That's the reality of what we live in. I actually
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Speaker 3: think we need a massive referendum, a huge change.
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Speaker 15: I think that we should have some kind of cap,
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Speaker 15: some sort of limit that the people set and say
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Speaker 15: this is the money that the government is allocated for this,
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Speaker 15: and if they can't do what they're required to do
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Speaker 15: for the Australian people within that cap, within that limit,
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Speaker 15: then that's an omission of guilt that they're not fit
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Speaker 15: for the job, and it's an automatic disqualification, and someone
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Speaker 15: who can do it steps up for it. But the
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Speaker 15: problem is it's very easy spending other people's money, and
40:38
Speaker 15: it's especially easy when no matter what you do with
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Speaker 15: your job, whether you're good at it or bad at it,
40:43
Speaker 15: you're still going to get paid at the end of
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Speaker 15: the day and you still have a job. So we
40:47
Speaker 15: kind of have set up a system that is very
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Speaker 15: easy for exploitation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how long for the day Where I
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Speaker 1: live in a area where the council is just absolutely boring.
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Speaker 1: All they do is collect your rubbish, mow the lawn
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Speaker 1: in local parks, and phil potholes, and other than that,
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Speaker 1: you never hear from them. Would that be wonderful to me?
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Speaker 1: Evelyn and Louise, thanks so much. For joining me. I
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Speaker 1: really appreciate your time. Stick around coming up after the break,
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Speaker 1: UK markets drop after the government's chief financial minister dissolves
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Speaker 1: into tears in Parliament and Princess Catherine talks about her
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Speaker 1: cancer treatment. Patrick Christie's will join me live from London
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Speaker 1: in just a moment. Well, welcome back to the program.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now is GB host GB News host Patrick Christie's. Patrick,
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Speaker 1: thanks for joining me from London tonight. Ukmps have voted
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Speaker 1: in favor of legislation that will prescribe the group Palestinian
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Speaker 1: Action as a terrorist organization. The legislation was passed by
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Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty five votes to twenty six and
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Speaker 1: will come into effect later this week. But among those
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Speaker 1: who voted against the move former Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn,
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Speaker 1: who said that rather than ban the group, people should
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Speaker 1: listen to them.
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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, I mean so basically, Palestine Action are now
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Speaker 4: in the mess around sense and they're starting to find out,
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Speaker 4: aren't they.
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Speaker 1: So there's a couple of double barreled.
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Speaker 4: Surnames in the list of people who've now been charged
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Speaker 4: because of their actions with Palestine Action. But as you
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Speaker 4: rightly pointed out twenty six members of Parliament voted not
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Speaker 4: to prescribe them. They said things like we are all
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Speaker 4: Palestine action. Well, let's see how brave they are. Now
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Speaker 4: go on say it again, because you could be charged
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Speaker 4: under the terrorist legislation and it would be a real
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Speaker 4: shame if they repeated that, wouldn't it. Jeremy Corbyn was
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Speaker 4: very nearly the Prime Minister of this country. He was
42:40
Speaker 4: nearly our envoid to the world, and conceivably he would
42:43
Speaker 4: have been in support of them. Someone did point out
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Speaker 4: that he voted against prescribing Al Qaeder as a terrorist
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Speaker 4: organization several years ago, so he's not always been on
42:51
Speaker 4: the right.
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Speaker 1: Side of history.
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Speaker 4: But some of these MPs and the Hooray Henry types
42:56
Speaker 4: in British society have said that they're going to try
42:58
Speaker 4: and to do an I Am Sparta moment where they
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Speaker 4: all stand up and say I support Palestine Action. Well,
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Speaker 4: I've got an idea. Instead of prosecuting them, just send
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Speaker 4: them to Gaza. I mean loads of them also support
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Speaker 4: things like trans rights. We could see if they could
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Speaker 4: make the case for transwrights in Gaza, couldn't we. There
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Speaker 4: is a huge undercurrent, though in this country of radical
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Speaker 4: hardline Islamist support and it's going to be a very
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Speaker 4: difficult job for police now at the various marches in
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Speaker 4: protests that are taking place, especially in our capital city,
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Speaker 4: to try to prosecute every single person who says they
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Speaker 4: support Palestine Action.
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Speaker 1: But of course they should do that. Well, just for
43:37
Speaker 1: people here in Australia who don't understand anything about Palestine Action.
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Speaker 1: How much support do they have in the UK and
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Speaker 1: why have they been prescribed as a terroist organization? What
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Speaker 1: have they done?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so, so Palestine Action do have a fair
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Speaker 4: bit of support because of the name. Really a lot
43:54
Speaker 4: of people are here that say always support Palestine, They
43:56
Speaker 4: just support them. They've done a load of protests, violent
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Speaker 4: protest where they've broken into people's businesses because they've claimed
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Speaker 4: that they're making parts for things like Israeli weapons, even
44:06
Speaker 4: though those businesses have not been doing that. But the
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Speaker 4: straw that broke the camel's back was that these numpties
44:13
Speaker 4: broke into a British military base, an air force base
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Speaker 4: and damaged a plane, a massive raf Royal Air Force plane,
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Speaker 4: costing a huge amount of damage that by definition really
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Speaker 4: is a terrorist act, and it was coming at a
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Speaker 4: very sensitive time when it was all really kicking off
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Speaker 4: in Iran, and who knows we might have really needed
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Speaker 4: that fighter jet at that particular moment in time.
44:39
Speaker 3: So they did that that was.
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Speaker 4: The step too far, attacking British military bases and equipment.
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Speaker 1: And as you said, this number of members of Parliament
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Speaker 1: to even despite all that, didn't want to see them
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Speaker 1: prescribe a SETIA organization at biggest belief. Unusual scenes in
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Speaker 1: the British Parliament Patrick, UK Chancellor Rachel Reeves appeared to
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Speaker 1: be in tears. Have a look.
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Speaker 14: The Prime Minister headed to Parliament to take questions about
45:05
Speaker 14: dropping key elements of his welfare reforms. Before he even started,
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Speaker 14: it was clear something was amiss with the Chancellor to
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Speaker 14: his left.
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Speaker 13: The reformed welfare system that we're putting place will be
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Speaker 13: better for individuals.
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Speaker 1: Better for the taxpayer and better for the economy.
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Speaker 14: As a session went on, Rachel Reeves looked increasingly distressed
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Speaker 14: and became the focus of questions.
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Speaker 1: She looks absolutely besterable.
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Speaker 14: The prime Minister's team assured us afterwards that the Chancellor
45:34
Speaker 14: is going nowhere. Her spokesman said she was upset by
45:38
Speaker 14: a personal matter.
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Speaker 1: Sir Patrick, what was going on there, and I believe
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Speaker 1: the effects of her crying in Parliament even affected the
45:46
Speaker 1: value of the pound, which dropped as a result.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, So our prime Minister is a spinalist jellyfish of
45:54
Speaker 4: a man on the way out. But the Chancellor is
45:56
Speaker 4: clearly having a nervous breakdown. So it's not really great
45:59
Speaker 4: for Great Britain, is it. But she has appeared to
46:01
Speaker 4: be somewhat of a broken woman for a while yesterday,
46:04
Speaker 4: tears streaming down her face. The Prime Minister in Parliament,
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Speaker 4: which you played clips of there, refused to say that
46:11
Speaker 4: she'd still being a job by the end of this parliament,
46:14
Speaker 4: which then did lead to even more tears, and then
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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister, in his infinite wisdom, released a promotional
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Speaker 4: video that had her crying in the background. So talk
46:24
Speaker 4: about throwing her under the bus and then reversing back
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Speaker 4: over look, she says it's a personal matter. Personally, I'm
46:29
Speaker 4: not sure about that. It plunged the pound bomb markets
46:32
Speaker 4: weren't mental. It essentially cost this country billions of pounds. Now,
46:35
Speaker 4: I do have an element of sympathy for it. It's
46:37
Speaker 4: a very tough job and obviously if there is a
46:39
Speaker 4: deep seated personal matter, we do have to have sympathy. However,
46:42
Speaker 4: I think this is what you get unfortunately, when you
46:45
Speaker 4: lie on your CV as she did, and you're promote
46:47
Speaker 4: it out of your debt and your boss is useless.
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Speaker 4: I do feel sorry for her to an extent, but
46:52
Speaker 4: I feel more sorry for business owners, the unemployed, farmers,
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Speaker 4: pensioners and taxpayers that her bad decisions have harmed over
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Speaker 4: the last year. She's out and about again today she's
47:02
Speaker 4: bounced back, but realistically that is an exceptional, extraordinary scene
47:07
Speaker 4: that has had real world economic consequences, and anyone in
47:11
Speaker 4: their right mind would have to say, we can't really
47:14
Speaker 4: go on like this. She can't really carry on like this.
47:17
Speaker 4: There is something clearly very wrong behind the scenes, arguments,
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Speaker 4: behind the scenes. She's been unable to pass any of
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Speaker 4: the economic legislation that she wanted because her.
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Speaker 1: Own MPs have rebelled.
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Speaker 4: She's a lame duck Chancellor and now she's in floods
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Speaker 4: of tears.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got the opposite situation here in Australia. Our
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Speaker 1: Treasurer doesn't cry, but we're all in tears. Before we go, Patrick,
47:38
Speaker 1: let's talk about one inspiring Princess Catherine has revealed her
47:41
Speaker 1: experience with cancer. Let's have a listening.
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Speaker 16: You put on sort of brief faced stericism through treatment.
47:49
Speaker 3: Treatment's done, Yes, so I think I can't get back
47:53
Speaker 3: to mom again.
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Speaker 16: But actually the phase afterwards is really you know, it's
47:59
Speaker 16: really you know, you're not necessarily a chemical team any longer,
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Speaker 16: that you're not able to function normally at a home as.
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Speaker 1: I've got thirty seconds, Patrick, But with so much bad news,
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Speaker 1: it's nice to hear from someone who's inspiring, who's you know,
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Speaker 1: got some poise about them and been through some tough
48:19
Speaker 1: times but just come out really well.
48:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the Royal Family at their best, giving
48:24
Speaker 4: hope to people.
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Speaker 1: But also other people will go.
48:27
Speaker 4: And probably get checks for certain cancers and lumps and bumps. Now,
48:30
Speaker 4: so I've got a feeling that what you will do
48:32
Speaker 4: will help improve lives but also maybe even save lives
48:35
Speaker 4: as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, really good stuff, Patrick, Christie, thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 1: See you next week. Well that's all from me tonight,
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Speaker 1: but stick around. Coming up is Sherry hosted by calib Bond.
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Speaker 1: Good Night