Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Dr. George Cybulski, Clinical AI Leader at Humboldt Park Health
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- 0:29This is Grace Lim Keller with the Becker's
- 0:30Healthcare Podcast, and we are live at the
- 0:329th annual health IT, digital health, and RCM
- 0:35conference.
- 0:36I'm joined right now by doctor George Cibulski,
- 0:39who is a clinical AI leader at Humboldt
- 0:42Park Health. So, doctor Przybylski, thanks so much
- 0:44for joining me today. We'd love to have
- 0:46you start off by introducing yourself a little
- 0:48bit further and telling us about all the
- 0:50things that you are into. Well, thank you
- 0:52so much for having me. So I am
- 0:55a neurosurgeon
- 0:56by, training and experience,
- 0:59but I have,
- 1:01recently over the past,
- 1:032 years been more interested in seeing how,
- 1:06artificial intelligence
- 1:08can increase value in my care of patients.
- 1:13So I've,
- 1:14done some courses on it and have I'm
- 1:17working on,
- 1:18constructing a
- 1:20use case
- 1:21for evaluating,
- 1:23lower back pain in the emergency department.
- 1:26Awesome. Well, you're the perfect candidate for our
- 1:29conversation today, and we're gonna start with AI
- 1:31adoption that's exploding right now in health care.
- 1:34So I'd love to hear in your view
- 1:35what is the most significant or promising application
- 1:38of this technology, and how is this informing
- 1:40your innovation strategy?
- 1:42Well, thanks. Yeah. AI
- 1:45has the ability to interact with every
- 1:49part of our delivery process in health care.
- 1:53So
- 1:54working backward
- 1:55from what I would be doing, which is
- 1:58evaluating a patient,
- 2:00we could prescreen
- 2:01the patient that I am evaluating
- 2:04to make sure that we get the most
- 2:06value out of my actual physical face to
- 2:10face evaluation of that patient.
- 2:12Working backward from that, when when the patient
- 2:16is scheduled to see me,
- 2:18AI could help by asking those same kind
- 2:21of questions to make sure
- 2:23this patient has an appropriate referral to see
- 2:26a specialist for their back pain. For example,
- 2:30if a person is had newly developed back
- 2:33pain over a few days,
- 2:35they probably don't need to see a neurosurgeon
- 2:37right off the bat.
- 2:39If they've likewise, if they've had back pain
- 2:42for
- 2:43a few years,
- 2:45we would like to know before seeing them
- 2:47have what kind of treatment they've had. Have
- 2:50they have they had diagnostic
- 2:51tests? What those have showed?
- 2:54And I see AI as a way to
- 2:57gather that information by asking the most relevant
- 3:00questions for that patient
- 3:02and then
- 3:03really putting that that those answers into an
- 3:06algorithm,
- 3:07which gets that patient to see
- 3:09a specialist or to do some,
- 3:12conservative management like physical therapy beforehand.
- 3:16And switching gears just slightly to the data
- 3:19side of things. Healthcare leaders are managing greater
- 3:22volumes of data and more devices across a
- 3:25growing number of care settings.
- 3:26And this has become a very complex environment.
- 3:30So what clinical data integration tools or practices
- 3:33are you seeing drive improvements
- 3:35in patient outcomes?
- 3:38Well, the
- 3:39ability
- 3:40to have a AI
- 3:42enhancement of the electronic medical record, I think,
- 3:45is is really the essential or critical way
- 3:49to help keep track of all of those
- 3:53components
- 3:54of health care. For example, if I see
- 3:56a patient
- 3:57and
- 3:58I think the patient would need an operation
- 4:01on their spine,
- 4:03hopefully, with AI, we would be able to
- 4:06know that that patient would be preauthorized
- 4:09to have that procedure,
- 4:11and we could get that procedure then scheduled
- 4:14in the most expeditious fashion.
- 4:18And with the technological
- 4:20innovation,
- 4:21AI adoption,
- 4:22greater volumes of data, we see the burden
- 4:25on our IT teams
- 4:27become much greater.
- 4:28So I'd love to hear how you think
- 4:30health care organizations can better support our IT
- 4:32teams and also our clinical teams as we're
- 4:35carrying out these innovation efforts.
- 4:37Well, a conference just like now at Becker's,
- 4:41I've been interacting with various
- 4:44organizations
- 4:45that really apply some out of the box
- 4:47solutions
- 4:48for pre authorization,
- 4:51for revenue
- 4:52cycle,
- 4:54and for actual clinical diagnosis. So I think
- 4:57the beauty of of
- 4:59a program
- 5:00such as, we're attending today is that it
- 5:04shows a clinician like me
- 5:06things that I can share with, the people
- 5:08I work with in information technology back at
- 5:11Humboldt Park Health
- 5:13to make their work easier.
- 5:15And then as we wrap up our conversation
- 5:18today, I would love to know your top
- 5:19piece of advice for health care leaders as
- 5:21they prepare for further advancements in technology and
- 5:24greater demands for care.
- 5:27Well, it's a it's gonna be a challenge
- 5:29because we're going to have
- 5:31to continue
- 5:33to learn and be open to learning,
- 5:36and we have to learn
- 5:38how various solutions that will be proposed
- 5:41by organizations that I've talked with today,
- 5:44how much their value will really contribute to
- 5:47our organizations.
- 5:49And, it's the same as, with instituting any
- 5:53other type of program in a hospital
- 5:56with supplies and things like that? Are we
- 5:58getting the the best value for the investment?
- 6:02And I understand you're an author. You've written
- 6:04a book as well. So do you wanna
- 6:05share a little bit about that piece of
- 6:07work? Well, thanks, Grace. Yes. I'm very,
- 6:11happy to say that this year, my book
- 6:13called can we manage
- 6:15to save health care was released on Amazon
- 6:18and became a number one bestseller. The premise
- 6:21of the book is is to look at
- 6:23all of the challenges,
- 6:25socioeconomic,
- 6:27delivery,
- 6:28electronic medical record to look at these challenges
- 6:32to
- 6:33to be frank about how we need to
- 6:36overcome some of the challenges they present to
- 6:39our giving value to patient care.
- 6:42Well, thank you so much for joining me
- 6:44today on the Becker's health care podcast.
- 6:47Again, we're live at the 9th annual Health
- 6:49IT Digital Health and RCM conference.
- 6:52Thank you. Thank you. It's been my pleasure.