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  High stakes treason.
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  So, Mike, let's welcome Ian Troutier.
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  And Mike's gonna do a little intro here, because you know Mike's like a great author as well.
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  Go ahead, Mike.
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  Uh well, it's certainly a pleasure to have uh Mr.
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  Trotier here uh today to talk about the book about uh a fiendish man uh that um sadly I know personally, John Brennan, uh former CIA director, former National Security Advisor, uh former American uh and uh uh Mr.
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  Chassier has spent a long time working on this issue, and and uh his his website is at uh uh high stakes, high stakes treason.com.
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  And it's uh it's the first time I've looked at it today, uh, is today, and it's it's extremely interesting.
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  And I learned a lot that I didn't know.
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  Um and it it points in the direction that I have no problem at all, accepting uh as uh a right, uh at least highly likely to be right, and that uh Brendan was a traitor to his country in the interest of uh uh financial advantages, clearly.
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  Uh and also uh perhaps he was uh he was a self-admitted communist, and no one ever explained to me or anyone how we ever got into the agency.
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  Uh having that um uh uh calling card with him.
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  And there's any number of things uh that we can talk about.
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  But I think uh what was interesting is certainly after Colonel Mike called me and said we're going to do this today.
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  Um, there was a uh a video piece on on YouTube that said uh Brennan will be uh indicted uh in the next few days.
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  Now, I don't know if that's true or not.
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  We've heard it a lot before, but uh it was a timely timely lead-in to this particular discussion.
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  So uh welcome, Mr.
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  Tratier.
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  We're happy to have you here.
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  And uh, why don't you tell us a few things about what you've been doing and how you gathered all of this information?
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  Two mics.
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  I appreciate you having me on.
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  You uh your show reminds me of growing up in the San Francisco Bay Area.
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  There was a show out there uh in the 80s called uh Mike and Mike.
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  And uh that was uh uh that was on a station called CanBR.
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  Uh, I think KBR exists today, but uh I don't know what they're doing.
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  Um look, I uh started looking in the drum.
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  Brennan uh relatively recently uh compared to uh my Intel source.
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  Um it's very important to set aside for listeners to understand that uh Mr.
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  John Donovan is a former FBI agent uh over a decade in the Washington DC Bureau.
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  Um, and it was he that uh in 2024 presented a binder at my podcast table at uh CPAC in Maryland.
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  Um in 2011, uh he had found uh some criminal activity being conducted by John Brennan, who was at the time the senior advisor at home security under Barack Obama.
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  Um and he submitted a tip to his former employer that would be the FBI.
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  He was working at the time for Cyber Valence, a private contractor.
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  Uh the tip was informing uh the FBI of uh the findings that uh Mr.
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  Donovan had found on Brennan.
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  Um course, uh they did nothing.
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  But Civilence did something to Mr.
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  Donovan.
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  He showed up to work in the morning, they took him aside, they questioned him about submitting the tip to the FBI.
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  He acknowledged of doing it, and he says, look, if there's a crime to report, I'm gonna report it.
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  And uh they uh fired him on the spot.
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  He packed his bags, he was done with uh the family for two years, the family ostracized ostracized him.
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  Uh, thought he was crazy.
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  And in fact, during that two-year period, he also received uh a death threat.
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  Um and uh yet he continued sticking with the research.
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  And in 2019, he submitted a broad sweeping uh media um uh uh pro uh synopsis of the contents which which I've taken and created a high-stakes treason with.
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  Um and nobody in media, even independent voices, uh, such as ourselves gentleman uh did nothing.
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  And uh, but uh in 2024, uh, when I received that binder, um, it all resonated with me because in 2016, I was living in Miami Beach, and I came across uh something called the Federal Reserve Conspiracy by Anthony Sutton, a former Stanford uh Hoover Institute fellow.
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  And um that was on a road that began for me regarding the Zika virus.
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  So talking about transhumanism, tech the technocrats, totally different subject.
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  But when I was presented with this binder of research that uh that Donovan gave to me, I says, Well, this makes complete sense because from the get-go, I am a follow-the-money type guy, right?
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  That's just that's who I am.
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  Um most crimes are committed, most decisions are made uh to benefit financially one way or the other.
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  And so when I went through the contents of the binder, I said, This is treason, John.
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  And he said, that's exactly right.
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  I spent guys in October a week and a half in uh in Washington, D.C., and I walked the halls of the Longworth, the canon.
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  I went over to the other side of the hill.
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  I walked the halls of the Senate.
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  Uh, and I passed out a hundred copies of this book.
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  There's a hundred and ten pages of an appendix, which show that all the arguments that I make in the book are backed up.
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  Um, some of them, of course, uh can be found uh or have been somewhat scrubbed from uh public domain.
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  They're found in the Wayback Machine.
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  Uh but 110 pages of uh White House visitor logs, um, X key score uh uh uh uh uh documents uh from what Edward Snowden blew the whistle on regarding the NSA and uh and other other such documentations that show uh that the allegations in the book can all be supported and or and are all supported.
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  And and in all, there are over 25 felony charges that I emerging and asking the DOJ and Congress to bring up with Mr.
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  Brennan.
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  If we zero in on the subpoena that you had mentioned, guys, regarding uh John John Brennan, uh that at hard is uh uh uh about a week and a half after Hyatt left DC, Jim Jordan, whose office got a copy of the book, uh submitted his uh his letter to the DOJ requesting that John Brennan be uh subpoenaed for uh for perjury charges.
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  Um that has nothing to do with the contents of high stakes treason.
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  That has everything to do with testimonies that he gave to Congress uh regarding the Russian collusion hoax.
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  Um, but Mike Davis, I believe, with Article 3 project has been working, and he's received a copy of this book, and I've been in communication with him on a very elementary level.
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  Uh, he has worked with Jason Kenonis, the attorney down in South Florida, uh, that is working on this subpoena.
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  Um the past few weeks, of course.
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  We know that John Brennan has uh and his legal team have asked for a change of jurisdiction.
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  Uh they're they're claiming political targeting uh with uh Judge Cannon and that Fort Pierce uh grand jury uh selection.
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  Uh that's complete and total bogus.
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  The reason it's down in South Florida is because of the raid on Mar-a Lago, which Brennan would have been completely and fully behind.
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  Um an indictment coming down the road is what I'm pushing for.
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  Uh, it doesn't really matter to me what he gets indicted on.
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  Um, but regarding the authorship of the book, uh I am asking, of course, the American people to look into these alleged crimes that he committed uh under the Obama administration.
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  Uh that is basically in a nutshell what I am doing at the moment.
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  Um, and I'll and I'll let uh either one of you kind of uh go from there and ask a question.
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  I I would be very surprised if it if it wasn't fair more than the Obama administration.
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  Uh I first met I first met him in in uh it must have been 1984.
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  Okay.
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  And he at that time was a whole hog uh advocate of uh this the cause of the Saudis.
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  That they weren't, in fact, he had just published a paper.
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  He was an analyst at the time.
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  And he published the paper that said that by by 20 what would have been 2020, no, by 2000.
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  The Saudis were going to be a modern uh uh uh open society, and it was cheerleading for the for the Saudis.
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  And well, Mike, didn't they become Sweden?
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  I thought they became Sweden.
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  All along this road, uh, if you're working in the agency, there are so many points at which um you would be subject to uh questioning about what you were doing.
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  I noticed in your in this in the summary of your book, he was given uh uh uh uh a waiver on having uh held money when he wasn't supposed to in a particular company.
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  Yes.
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  Um that is uh I'm sorry.
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  That is the that is the norm Isen uh led uh yes.
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  It's uh in you know, I don't know.
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  Uh do you know has anybody ever gone back?
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  Uh it has been requested to get the uh uh uh the the recorded memo memo that follows any kind of a uh uh uh examination by by what the hell do they call lie detector?
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  Um talked to the guy who actually let him into the agency or authorized him being into the agency after he admitted to being a communist, or did he get a special waiver for that?
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  And uh it's it's very interesting too that you talk about the number of uh uh visas that he approved uh for the coming out of Saudi Arabia?
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  Yeah, a 15 out of 18 or 15 out of 19.
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  Yeah.
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  Now that to me, I have never known any agency person who could take that advantage of what is basically a diplomatic uh performance in an agency.
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  So that's a foreign officer in the embassy.
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  I mean, agency, the CIA didn't go over that one, Mike.
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  They didn't want no, I'm saying it's mostly an ambassador level or charge their fares or you know it's that kind of deal.
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  You know, the uh the embassy uh to give the visas, not to CIA, you know.
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  It's it really is uh an astounding thing if it's true.
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  Um I know when we were going after Bin Laden uh early on in 95, 96, the Saudis were uh really not helpful at all.
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  And we just were asking at the time for very basic things about bin Laden's uh his health records, his bank records, his educational history, and we sent Brennan uh probably three or four cables that no one answered.
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  And so we sent him a little bit of a rough one for the fifth or the sixth time, whatever it was.
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  And he sent a cable back that said uh uh whenever I mention this to the Saudis, they get mad, so I'm not gonna mention it to them again.
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  And this was 90 in the middle 90s.
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  And uh so we went to talk to Tenant, uh the DCI at the time, the director of central intelligence, and he said, okay, I'll talk to Brennan about it.
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  And whether he did or not, he came back and said, no, don't send any more cables.
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  Uh and why?
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  He never said why he made that decision.
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  But well, when the Saudis get angry, they're not going to give you another box of fresh dates.
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  Okay, welcome back to the second segment where I would Ian Trottier, the author of High Stakes Treason.
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  And we're discussing former director.
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  John Brennan, communist voter.
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  What was his favorite guy?
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  He said, what was his favorite guy?
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  Oh he even named it, his communist guy.
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  Gus Hall.
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  Gus all, yeah, Gus, he was a he was a follower of Gus Hall.
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  Probably Lenin and Trotsky were the rest of them too.
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  Number one.
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  Number two, we were just talking author.
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  And we were speaking with the author, Ian.
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  And the New York Post, the New York Times, others, you know, newsmax, guys.
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  Ha ha like uh X, Newsman.
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  Uh well, you know, maybe we'll talk about it, maybe not, and then it just disappeared and vanished.
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  I don't we don't want to have this problem.
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  Well, truth, you have to have sunlight on truth.
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  So let's continue.
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  Dr.
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  Mike and Ian can continue with the conversation.
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  Go ahead.
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  Yeah, and let's not forget uh also what we what we had mentioned is you've mentioned those sources.
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  Uh, but uh the Daily Mail uh spent three days.
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  I introduced uh reporter to uh Roger Stone.
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  We brought John Guandalo into the conversation, uh three days of writing an article.
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  Uh it actually was approved by their editor, um, and then went to the legal vet and it got totally squashed.
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  Um and that report, of course, is not very happy because uh because she spent a lot of time uh writing this article, but those are those are uh some pretty big outlets um as you mentioned that have looked at it.
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  Uh a couple of them said that they would talk about it, and I'll I'll mention the name at News Max, Rob Finnerty is the guy that uh has said keep me posted.
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  He's I was in dialogue, uh I was in dialogue for many months with him about this information, and then it just kind of dropped off.
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  I when I was in New York last, I went into the office at Newsmax and I met with the CFO and even John Tobacco, handed them personally a copy of the book, um, and uh and nothing.
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  So um I think uh I think Mike, you've brought up a really good uh you've got brought up a really good uh uh uh comment here in that uh in that if this if this goes far enough, which which I believe it will, if this goes far enough, you're looking at a major major domino, a key domino, um and the cover being compromised, and that would be of John Brennan.
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  But if let's just say the the United States is successful in taking down this deep state actor uh that works hand in hand with the global regime uh uh to implement uh their policies uh that are unconstitutional, they're anti-constitutional in this republic.
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  Uh then you are now talking about uh exposing the fraud above him.
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  Now, something of interest is Patrick Byrne, and Patrick Byrne uh is a uh is a CIA asset uh back to 2006.
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  Um he was uh it seems that he was recruited and tabbed to work with the CIA.
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  This is the former uh uh CEO of Overstock, Patrick Byrne, um, by a man named David S.
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  Cohen.
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  It seems that David S.
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  Cohen brought Patrick into the CIA in 2006, and uh David S.
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  Cohen would have been head of OFAC, foreign acquisitions uh at the U.S.
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  Treasury Department.
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  It was uh and he would have had to approve the sale of the former formerly named Analysis Corporation, then named Sotera Defense Solutions, to the uh Hong Kong domicile UK company um when it was sold.
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  Um so there is an intricate woven uh uh panel here of high-level intelligence officials that will be exposed.
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  Now I'm not not suggesting Patrick Byrne was part in any way of the malfeasance conducted by John Brennan, and there's no no way it is, but there's there's another side to this coin that should be mentioned briefly here to to Mr.
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  John Brennan.
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  Uh Patrick Byrne not only has uh stated that uh that that he was part of this CIA apparatus, and we know David S.
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  Cohn would have been very tight with working under John Brennan when he was the head of the CIA because he was in uh he uh David S.
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  Cohn uh was uh at the very heights of the CIA at one point in time as well.
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  Um, but the other side of this coin is according to Patrick Byrne, uh John Brennan uh built a data center in Belgrade, that is Serbia with the Chinese company Huawei.
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  That data center in Belgium that data center in Belgrade manipulated Dominion servers.
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  Uh Dominion Dominion Office in Belgrade manipulated Dominion servers in the 2020 election.
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  So John Brennan is not only part of the Russian collusion hoax, but bringing Christopher Steele in to create that steel dossier out of the UK uh and doing that with Stephen Halper and doing by the way, by the way, I just want to interrupt one second Ian.
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  They're trying to bring Christopher Steele out now to do the Epstein cover, which is totally hilarious.
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  It's like Saturday Night Live, you know.
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  Well, what's the connection there?
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  That's that'd be interesting to know.
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  Yeah, well, they're saying, well, no, this has nothing to do with, you know, they're just trying to cover up.
• 26:06
  I mean, just to bring this guy out of the out of the crypt alone, just mentioning his name, like as if he's got credibility, but continue, go ahead.
• 26:14
  Um, in regards to the Epstein issue, there is a there is a connection with John Brennan, and that is through a woman named Kathy Rumler.
• 26:23
  Uh R E U M L E R, I believe is the spelling.
• 26:28
  I may be wrong on that.
• 26:30
  Um, an attorney, a high-level attorney for Barack Obama.
• 26:33
  Um, and this is what's interesting is that John Brennan awarded uh rumler, if I've got the pronunciation right, with the highest honor of the CIA.
• 26:46
  Who was the first person that she contacted after receiving the award?
• 26:50
  None other than Jeffrey Epstein.
• 26:57
  This is you know, I I have to say uh Mr.
• 27:01
  Chatier, you've really done a service to your country on this one, but I I don't know.
• 27:08
  There's so many people that are going to be connected to this.
• 27:14
  Because Brennan in himself is not a brain brainiac.
• 27:18
  He's an operator, he's a criteria, he's a cruel man.
• 27:24
  Um he's a uh clearly it was working for the Saudis when he was the chief there.
• 27:29
  And and I that we were told at the agency that the Saudis, when he opened up his um intelligence business, that that money went uh from the Saudis to him to help him open that up.
• 27:43
  Um but it's uh I I think you've got a tiger by the tail on this one, sir.
• 27:49
  Uh if you if you can get a focus on um Brennan and actually somebody indict him, there's a whole lot of people that are going to be dirtying their pants uh once once that's announced.
• 28:04
  Because this is this is too big to be um a one-man show.
• 28:10
  Yeah.
• 28:11
  Absolutely the case.
• 28:12
  Absolutely.
• 28:13
  And you know, we we had 10 chances to kill bin Laden.
• 28:18
  And every time uh they found a reason not to do it.
• 28:24
  And you know, he was the best enemy we ever could have had since since maybe General Giap, insofar as telling us what he was going to do and how he was going to do it.
• 28:35
  And um Brennan was at the at the core of that in uh being the chief in Saudi Arabia.
• 28:44
  So let me let me mention this.
• 28:46
  Uh we were talking about Saudi Arabia.
• 28:48
  Uh Riyad is where uh Brennan would have been stationed there.
• 28:52
  Right.
• 28:53
  The reason I say Brennan, uh the reason I there's a reason I attribute the 15 visas.
• 29:00
  Uh and Mike, you brought up at the other point, that those visas have to come from the State Department, not the CIA.
• 29:05
  Yeah, the uh I I think there probably is, but between the chief of station and the ambassador, some kind of a working agreement that if he suggested, they'll do it.
• 29:13
  I'm not sure about that.
• 29:15
  But I'm as the Colonel said, uh Colonel Mike said, uh those are issued by the State Department.
• 29:22
  And uh it it leads into the question again, what's the connection?
• 29:28
  Why is the State Department doing this bidding and the and Saudis going into the United States in after a couple years of knowing that Bin Laden is one of the biggest threats we could face?
• 29:39
  Yeah, there's there's a and Mike Benz did a report on this back in August.
• 29:44
  Uh, there is a uh former State Department employee, now an acting attorney, from my understanding, his name is Michael Springman.
• 29:52
  Uh and in 2004, he was being interviewed by Cynthia McKinney.
• 29:58
  And uh he
• 30:00
  Openly uh expresses concern as to his time uh in Jeddah, where as a State Department employee, he arrives to I believe it was the embassy, and he says 89% of these people are a CIA.
• 30:13
  Why are there so many CIA people here?
• 30:16
  And he complains that they were basically telling him, ordering him to grant various visas uh to what he would say are probable uh uh domestic or terrorist terrorist threats.
• 30:30
  Um and uh it was through Springman's testimony, uh not mine, it's through Springman's testimony where I get that number, 15 of the 19 9-11 hijacker visas.
• 30:41
  So then we posed the question of um and Brennan is is stateside during 9-11.
• 30:48
  Uh but he's directly working under George Tennant.
• 30:52
  That's right.
• 30:53
  Then the question becomes, what did George Tennant know about 9-11?
• 30:58
  Because it doesn't take a elementary school kid, right?
• 31:03
  And I'm I'm saying that uh with some pun because Bush was down in Florida at the elementary school, right?
• 31:09
  It doesn't take it doesn't take a brain of an elementary school child to know that building number seven went flat as a pancake, but it was never touched by a bird feather.
• 31:17
  Yeah, so um so you you're exactly right.
• 31:21
  We start to peel back some of these layers, and if we're successful, which I believe we will be in taking down uh Mr.
• 31:27
  Brennan, we are going to expose a much deeper fraud of what I've alluded to and what I've mentioned is this global cabal, which is strangling our constitutional republic.
• 31:38
  Um and there's certainly nothing new.
• 31:40
  Uh there's something else that I would like to mention uh in that I believe uh Brennan is probably um what was called a penetration agent um to crack uh to crack some of this allegiance within the CIA and patriotism within the CIA.
• 31:59
  I believe he was likely chosen to file up the ranks because of his sympathy towards communism, and this coming from his days at the University of Texas Austin, uh, when he was uh siding with the communist candidate uh for presidency in uh for for US US office.
• 32:20
  Um there is also a connection, gentlemen, to uh Zignu Brzezinski, and there's a three-way here with Brennan Zygmy Brzezinski and uh uh Barry Sotoro, later later we know him as Obama.
• 32:37
  Uh during the time that Barack Obama supposedly was a student at Occidental College uh and then becoming a student at Columbia University, uh he spends a year abroad.
• 32:50
  In 2008, Jake Tapper is going down this trail, and then it kind of fizzles out.
• 32:57
  But the question is uh why did John Brennan go back, use the analysis corporation, and scrub critical data off of the Obama passport uh during that time between Occidental College and Columbia University.
• 33:14
  Well, it just so happens that at that time Mr.
• 33:17
  Soatoro was in Pakistan.
• 33:20
  So why did he go to Pakistan between the year he spent over a year in Pakistan?
• 33:25
  Why did he go to Pakistan between Occidental and Columbia?
• 33:28
  And what did Mr.
• 33:29
  John Brennan scrub using the analysis corporation, who I allege in the book, he cashed in illegally held stocks to the tune of just shy of five million dollars uh under the Obama administration at the behest of the American people, jeopardizing national security, um, allowing terror attacks to happen.
• 33:51
  One of them uh would have later become uh is known as the Boston Marathon bombing.
• 33:56
  Um that was 2013.
• 33:59
  The stocks would have all already been sold by then, but nonetheless, he is enriching himself because he knows he's got to bolster this global war on terror.
• 34:08
  He knows Congress, the American people are gonna run scared because of terrorists, the terror threats.
• 34:13
  Congress is approving uh funding for the global war on terror, and he knows this indispensable government contractor, the analysis corporation is going to be funded by Congress and received funding, and that's why he he holds on to these illegally held stocks, lying to the officer, Rachel Malinaro, uh on that ethics waiver.
• 34:32
  Um we've got this guy red-handed, but again, he goes back in 2008, he scrubs information off that Obama passport, and um, and it just so happens he uses two analysis corporation uh employees to do that, and they end up dead just just afterwards.
• 34:50
  So there's there's there's there's there's many questions, of course, to be answered.
• 34:54
  I'm throwing a lot out there, uh throw throwing a lot out there.
• 34:57
  These aren't things that I'm discussing in the initial edition.
• 35:00
  They are some things I will be discussing in the second edition, which I would hope to have uh uh available by July.
• 35:07
  That's not a guarantee.
• 35:09
  Um, but uh, but yes, we are we are just scratching the surface.
• 35:14
  But because uh because you've said Dr.
• 35:17
  Mike, because you have said uh this man uh this man is uh I'm gonna rephrase it and I'll say what he's left is a paper trail, and this is low-hanging fruit, and there is absolutely zero Z-E-R-O, there is zero reason this man should not be charged with these crimes.
• 35:36
  Zero.
• 35:37
  Zero.
• 35:38
  Of course, it's a non-legal mine and non-attorney.
• 35:40
  Uh I've just been been able to vet the information uh myself.
• 35:44
  Uh but uh you you're very uh astute in because it he was sent to the agency exactly to do what you said to do when he was once he became a big inflated personality and and was powerful in a to the extent he had powerful backers.
• 36:05
  He turned the agency into a freak show in terms of uh anti-Americanism in terms of uh, you know, gay day or whatever they call it, going from one day a year to a week to a month, uh, to making almost everyone in the agency who didn't pull the line on uh um uh what used to be called perversion.
• 36:34
  Uh they would they would find their careers up the crick.
• 36:38
  He was sent there to destroy the agency.
• 36:41
  Uh my it's my guess.
• 36:44
  Uh and I'm I'm an old man, so you you know you take it for what it's worth, but the disruption he caused in the the the agency, the the desire for people to to who quit after two or three years because they couldn't stand most of their days or some of their days or half of their days, some way or another, uh being lectured to about uh all of these um woke ideas and the necessity of the agency being the wokest of the woke amongst government or government organizations.
• 37:14
  Um I've wrote about it a couple times on my blog, but I I think that's uh that's a very very good point you made.
• 37:23
  Um that he was he was damaging the United States writ large and he was damaging the agency specifically.
• 37:33
  Yeah.
• 37:34
  Um yeah, and and and I you and I are seeing eye to eye on this.
• 37:38
  Um I I've taken a historical approach, and offline the question was um uh Colonel Mike had asked me, uh, you know, why why did I why did I get into this information?
• 37:50
  And uh I simply I have been able to um guys, I've been over the the decade that I've been doing the work that I'm doing, and and I never thought I'd be doing this uh because prior to 2016 and being exposed to the Zika virus in Miami Beach, I was fairly naive to uh to any of the mechanesias uh uh operating within the within the government.
• 38:13
  Um but that flipped the switch.
• 38:16
  Um I began a deep dive.
• 38:18
  It was resentless.
• 38:19
  Um I've stayed consistent.
• 38:22
  Uh and what I've been able to come up with from what I've been able to see, uh, and I'll phrase it this way.
• 38:27
  Um I I I did uh uh tours with uh General Mike Flynn, who initially was going to write the forward of this book, uh Roger Stone uh Kim Bord and offered to write the write the forward and Rogers written a forward of this.
• 38:42
  Um but uh but I would tour with uh Mike Flynn and Clay Clark in their in their kind of media uh carousel and and and conduct interviews.
• 38:51
  Uh one of them was with uh Patrick Byrne.
• 38:54
  Uh but I did that for a number of years.
• 38:56
  And these were uh basically uh those tours uh were an effort uh uh outside of the as a result of the lockdowns and and anti-vaccination uh or mandate uh mandation uh mandates and that sort of thing.
• 39:11
  But um it was uh uh it was uh during that time that I met an airline pilot, his name is Josh Yoder, and he was uh very much opposed to vaccine mandates, uh which uh some of the uh some of the airlines were trying to require to get uh prior to boarding.
• 39:28
  Yes, um, and um and and and I was at a an event uh an after party, if you will, and after after gathering after event gathering with with Josh, and I was kind of explaining a historical approach to T United and T of the United States.
• 39:42
  I said, Josh, this is you know, there's and at the time I don't remember what the federal deficit was, but I says, uh, and it would have been Trump, his first administration that was in office at the time.
• 39:51
  And I says, Josh, you know, uh we've had uh 45 presidents, and uh I asked him, I says, how many how many presidents?
• 40:00
  Do you think have actually been able to correct the deficit and leave the office, uh, the executive office without a federal deficit?
• 40:08
  And I think it's probably his first response was George Washington, I don't know, Ronald Reagan, and many people will kind of throw different names out there.
• 40:16
  Uh, but this is what I always like to pose.
• 40:18
  And this is this is how I'm able to kind of understand uh from my view what what John Brennan was was doing really as a proxy uh for a much more powerful.
• 40:30
  Yes, I agree with you 100%.
• 40:32
  We're gonna have to take a break again.
• 40:34
  But as I say, you know, invest in ropes because we have a we have a big need coming up.
• 40:39
  Those ropes that you see on the big ships, the battleships and on the cargo ships, we're gonna need a lot of rope down there in Washington, DC.
• 40:47
  And uh who knows, maybe we'll go to France and have a guillotine party, right, Mike?
• 40:53
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• 45:05
  Yeah, so Josh Josh says to me, I I hey I I explained something interesting.
• 45:09
  I explained uh in your listeners may know this, may not.
• 45:12
  Uh it's called the U.S.
• 45:13
  Grand Union flag.
• 45:14
  It's what uh John Paul Jones flew on the USS Alfred on the Delaware.
• 45:19
  Um, this is the initial, basically the initial flag uh that became the US uh government.
• 45:25
  Uh but uh uh this and the upper canton of this flag is the grant uh the Union Jack.
• 45:31
  Well, that represents the British uh East Indies Company.
• 45:34
  And um, and I says, John, I says, or I says uh Josh, it says, uh 45 presidents, only one is left office without without a federal deficit.
• 45:43
  And of course, he didn't know the answer.
• 45:45
  Most people don't know the answer.
• 45:46
  Um, and uh the answer to that question is Andrew Jackson.
• 45:50
  And in fact, in 18 1843, he ran on the re-election platform, uh, being identified as as the man that killed the bank.
• 45:58
  Um, so this is this is really nothing.
• 46:00
  Following the money is nothing new.
• 46:01
  And it's staring at us in plain sight, isn't it?
• 46:04
  Right?
• 46:04
  I mean, we've got these politicians that squabble over uh transgender rights and Pan Bondy gloating about the 50,000 uh or the 50 50,000 point uh Dow um, you know, and uh uh uh alluding to um uh answering these uh these questions uh regarding the Epstein files.
• 46:23
  Um she's talking about the the stock exchange.
• 46:26
  Um look, guys, you've got a massive federal deficit and uh and and nobody nobody's doing anything to pay pay this off.
• 46:33
  There's a there's a guy back in the early 70s on his weekly radio shows.
• 46:37
  He's a former uh president of the import and export bank appointed by uh JFK.
• 46:42
  And he was uh he was stating that there's simply this is in the early 70s.
• 46:46
  He was telling the American people there was no gold in the Fort Knox and that the rock Rockefeller had uh sold it to the Ross show.
• 46:53
  This is back in the 70s.
• 46:54
  This isn't coming from me.
• 46:55
  This is coming from a guy that was working with JFK.
• 46:58
  Um, so this entrenched deep state is is so meticulous, it's so sophisticated.
• 47:05
  And I think it's unfortunately, I think it's so much more uh complex than uh probably most people in DC uh that would side with Trump today, would even even begin to understand.
• 47:16
  And that would be just like people like Cash Patel, let's say JD Vance, Susie Wiles, you know, uh Pam Bondy, Thomas Massey, you name it.
• 47:26
  I don't think I don't think any of these people really understand the sophistication behind what is the deep state.
• 47:32
  But what we have here uh in high stakes treason, and I'm gonna repeat what you what you said, Dr.
• 47:38
  Mike.
• 47:38
  What we have here is an opportunity uh to catch one of these deep state uh uh rats um uh by the by the tail.
• 47:48
  Um, and uh and it and it should be should be cut off.
• 47:51
  As soon as I approached Roger Stone, and he says this is the most political, uh excuse me.
• 47:56
  He says it's one of the most uh one of the most uh important books that he has read in his 50 years in politics.
• 48:02
  And as soon as I had approached him, guys, uh, and it was uh it was it was at an event in Florida.
• 48:08
  Um he immediately within like 24 hours, I'd I'd sent him the manuscript of the book within 24 hours.
• 48:15
  It gets back to me.
• 48:15
  He says, You should have me write the forward of this book.
• 48:18
  And at the time I was still waiting for General Flynn to contribute the forward.
• 48:22
  Uh his schedule got busy, and I let it sink in a little bit.
• 48:25
  And he wrote back to me, he says, he says, No, I told him, I says, Flynn's probably gonna write the forward.
• 48:29
  He says, No, you want me to write your write right the forward.
• 48:32
  I mean, they went after you know the five eyes and and and and Brennan and his his his hit lists.
• 48:38
  They went after uh they went after uh Papadopoulos, they went after Carter Page, they went after Roger Stone, and with such vengeance, it's disgusting.
• 48:47
  And to see them in this uh go ahead, sorry.
• 48:52
  No, I said, Oh, yes.
• 48:53
  By the way, is that flag the therapist flag you're speaking about?
• 48:56
  It's called the US Union flag.
• 48:59
  US Which one is it?
• 49:00
  Okay, okay, gotcha.
• 49:02
  Grand Union, yeah.
• 49:03
  Like the one more thing, one more thing, Ian.
• 49:05
  I I forgot to mention a second segment.
• 49:07
  You said something about Noam.
• 49:10
  What was his last name, the lawyer?
• 49:11
  I said, Yep.
• 49:14
  There's another lawyer, too, besides him.
• 49:17
  There's another lawyer that are currently right now preparing impeachments and indictments for everybody in this administration, including the president.
• 49:26
  It's normal, and I forgot the other guy's name.
• 49:28
  He's got he's got a law firm working with over 120 lawyers preparing things for if they they missed the midterm, that these people are all gonna be rounded up.
• 49:37
  And that's why Donald Trump has to pay attention, and that's why this Brennan thing has to go forward where we get a positive result.
• 49:46
  Yeah, okay.
• 49:47
  So um, I've never heard that.
• 49:48
  And if you can find that name of that person, I'd I'd like to know the name of that person because that's basically the other government.
• 49:54
  We've got two governments functioning, and America doesn't realize this.
• 49:57
  You know, I always ask the other day, um
• 50:00
  I was asked the other day, Ian, do you do you think do you think the country is going to uh fall into a civil war?
• 50:06
  And I says, look, we're already in a political civil war.
• 50:08
  We you have two different government governments operating in DC right now.
• 50:12
  Um, and uh it's you know it's they haven't turned look, they haven't turned to using the military, but they've turned to using uh physical uh conflict.
• 50:22
  We're seeing it in Minneapolis.
• 50:24
  We and it's not new.
• 50:25
  We saw it during the lockdowns in Seattle and Portland with Antifa.
• 50:29
  Um in George Soros is fully behind this.
• 50:31
  You know, they're he's funding these social upheaval.
• 50:33
  So they they are they are trying to bring it into that type of scenario.
• 50:37
  Now, um in uh I think we're a long ways away uh to getting any type of military divide.
• 50:43
  Um but uh uh social uh unrest is is a tactic that is that they're using that is that is very effective.
• 50:51
  Um but we have it.
• 50:53
  We have two, in my opinion, we've got two different forms of government um that are you know, quasi representing uh quasi representing the various brand that the shadow government we have running it.
• 51:04
  And then we have the you know, the guys overseas who are part of the uh you know, those various groups, the club of Rome, the Rome Club, the club of 300, whatever.
• 51:13
  There's everybody involved in the deal.
• 51:15
  Everybody's running our show except for the American people.
• 51:18
  We just pick up the tab, you know.
• 51:20
  That's exactly right.
• 51:21
  You're you're exactly right with that.
• 51:23
  Um, and let me let me put some emphasis here on Cambridge uh university, because a lot of it seems to be coming out of the surveillance uh and the security intelligence seems to be coming out of Cambridge University.
• 51:36
  That is what seems where this Christopher Steele came out of was a symposium at Cambridge University.
• 51:42
  And let's not forget that the uh high tech is being used uh and Cambridge Analytica, uh, which was which was proved to be uh uh fraudulent from my understanding.
• 51:54
  Um let me also mention, because I told you there's two sides to the coin here.
• 51:58
  You know, we're talking about we're talking about the one side of the coin, uh, and that is the CT Intel monopoly that John Brennan created uh during his time under the Ed Bon administration using this uh database, this terror database called called the Analysis Corporation.
• 52:14
  Uh we know full hand that he could have stopped uh he could have stopped this uh uh Abdul Mattala from boarding the flight in in Amsterdam, headed for Detroit.
• 52:24
  Um and we also know that he could have stopped this uh uh this uh NATO ally attack, Enders Brave.
• 52:31
  Uh we know this key because Edward Stood, I think Fox News right now is airing, uh airing a show uh that's that's posing the question to the American people is Edward Snowden patriot or is he a traitor?
• 52:43
  Um we know we know through Edward Snowden whistleblowing of the NSA programs that that John Brennan was using uh was using these programs to sequester and compartmentalize this vital information.
• 52:57
  Let me read a let me read a quote.
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  And that's this is the one side of the coin that I'm talking about, of course, on the book.
• 53:02
  At the other side of the coin would be the vote of fraud that Brennan is Brennan is part of.
• 53:06
  Um but let me read this quote.
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  This is page one uh in the book.
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  The this is Brennan stated this himself, verbatim from Mr.
• 53:14
  John Brennan.
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  He says the idea behind the TTIC.
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  Now, the TTIC is a threat, uh terror threat in interrogation center, uh, which was a result of 9-11 and executive order from Bush.
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  It later became the National Counterterrorism Center, the NCTC.
• 53:29
  Okay.
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  Now, the idea behind the TTIC, and this is all created by by John Brennan.
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  This is why I say he created a monopoly on this intelligence was that we needed verbatim from Brian from Brendan, that we needed to have a someplace in the government where all counterterrorism information would reside.
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  Eventually, information from all 26 classified and unclassified networks flowed into the TTIC.
• 53:54
  Eventually, I'll repeat that.
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  Eventually, information from all 26 classified and unclassified networks float into the TTIC.
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  Now, he goes on to say this.
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  In effect, the good news and the bad news is that the TC TTIC had more access to more information than anywhere in the government.
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  This is complete manipulation of our intelligence.
• 54:20
  And he did it uh at the behest uh in jeopardy jeopardy of national security.
• 54:27
  Why did he do it?
• 54:30
  He's working for the enemy.
• 54:31
  That's exactly right.
• 54:32
  That's exactly right.
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  It's uh it is entirely uh absurd uh for any, I think any genuine intelligence officer to think that information should be sequestered.
• 54:47
  All that allows you to do is decide not to act on something.
• 54:52
  If there's a lot of people who get the information, they have the right clearances there in their places where they're supposed to be.
• 54:58
  No one can really uh regularly at least make sure something doesn't happen that eventually harms the United States.
• 55:09
  It's uh it's almost like a movie, you know, it's it it doesn't take a lot to see what's going on here.
• 55:17
  Uh but that it's all it's all full of uh uh people who don't want to change it.
• 55:24
  And that's that's as the colonel said, there's a lot of rope that's gonna be needed to get this thing back on an even keel.
• 55:32
  Uh I don't know how we do it.
• 55:34
  I said, God bless you.
• 55:35
  I I hope you you get the ear of some people who are in a position to know.
• 55:41
  You know, Osama Bin Laden is not dead early in or late in the 90s because the British and the Saudis were listened to by uh fools in this government.
• 55:54
  We are in many ways, you know, they it always sounds like a joke that the British still consider us as part of their empire.
• 56:02
  But when you look at the time number of times the British get away with things or change our minds about something, it almost suggests that there's not only we're not only part of their organization, but we are paid parts of it.
• 56:17
  And yeah, so Yoder, I'm just gonna thread in here with what you're saying.
• 56:23
  Yoder says to me, he says, so I explained to him some of the things that I've mentioned here, and he says, he says, so what you're telling me, Ian, is that in 1776 we we gained our physical independence, but yet we never have gained ever, we have never gained our financial and economic independence.
• 56:42
  And I said, that's exactly that's exactly right.
• 56:44
  Yeah.
• 56:45
  It's and political independence, really.
• 56:48
  One of the best times we uh had an opportunity killed Osama Bin Laden.
• 56:52
  Uh tenant went to the uh committee that makes that decision in the White House with the president.
• 56:58
  And he said, Well, we we really need more information.
• 57:02
  Let's ask the British if they know anything else and see if they can gather it.
• 57:06
  And of course, we've never heard back from the British and the British, and then 9-11 was just around the corner.
• 57:11
  Um, but 10 times they had the opportunity to kill him on my watch, and then a couple times afterwards, before before 9-11.
• 57:19
  And it's uh there's no explanation for it.
• 57:23
  All right, thank you to our guest Ian Trottier tonight with Dr.
• 57:26
  Mike and Colonel Mike.
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  And thank you for joining us on the mission.
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  See you next Monday.
• 57:36
  Thank you.
• 57:37
  Thank you, Ian.
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  Thank you, Dr.
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  Mike.
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  We'll be back Monday next week, 8 p.m.
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  Eastern.
• 57:41
  Good job, Ian.