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The Golden Bachelor, Sister Wives and Mother God with Kate Casey · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 1: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
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  Speaker 1: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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  Speaker 1: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 1: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 2: So easy.
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  Speaker 1: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood
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  Speaker 2: tales for real life. Mr.
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  Speaker 2: You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one
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  Speaker 2: tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. We've got a juicy
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  Speaker 2: one for you today. I have a top podcaster and
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  Speaker 2: dear friend of mine, mother of five, wife, sister, aunt,
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  Speaker 2: blonde delight from the OC. Yes, it's Kate Casey with
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  Speaker 2: Reality Life with Kate Casey is my guest. Girl, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for driving out.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, happy to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Dropped off that one kid and came straight.
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  Speaker 4: Straight down the highway.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Straight down the highway. Happy to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. We've been friends for so long. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to remember how you had a hilarious blog that
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  Speaker 2: you would write recaps of Real Housewives episodes on. Like
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  Speaker 2: a cliff note, but of a Shakespearean play. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And I would add stuff to it that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: And I just thought it was so funny. And somehow
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  Speaker 2: you wrote me or I saw it. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this is hilarious. And then we started talking. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I came to your show.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: You had a show in the OC.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, great.
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  Speaker 4: And then I came down and then we just kind
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  Speaker 4: of started talking. And then I went to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: You had me on to talk about housewives.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And then I was talking to you about how, like,
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  Speaker 4: what do I do beyond this blog?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, why? How do I get more people
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  Speaker 2: to read this blog? And I'm like, why don't you
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  Speaker 2: just do your blog, but as a podcast? Yeah. Because
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  Speaker 2: that's where it's at. And I think people are lazy
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  Speaker 2: and they're not into reading anymore.
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  Speaker 4: That was true. And that was like seven, eight years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Long time.
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  Speaker 2: We are good friends. We are talk on the phone friends.
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  Speaker 2: And I thoroughly enjoy you. And thank you for coming
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  Speaker 2: out because we have a lot to discuss. But first,
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  Speaker 2: I need to tell you. since you're a housewife person,
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  Speaker 2: and reality TV people with reality life.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, right up my alley.
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  Speaker 2: I went to Variety's Women of Reality TV event. It
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  Speaker 2: was this past Wednesday, and it was at Spago, and
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  Speaker 2: it was really, really fun.
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  Speaker 4: I like Spago.
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  Speaker 2: It was really nice. So they had all the tables,
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  Speaker 2: and then the front, they had three different panels. And
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  Speaker 2: there was some juicy stuff that came out with the panel.
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  Speaker 2: But first, as I was walking into the dining room,
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  Speaker 2: My heart skipped a beat because I saw Christine from
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  Speaker 2: Sister Wives.
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  Speaker 4: In my opinion, she's the most powerful woman in reality
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  Speaker 4: television right now. I agree. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: And she, I said, I have been writing you and
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  Speaker 2: I know people sometimes don't see DMs or whatever, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I would die to have you on Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: And she said, oh, are you the Heather from Juicy Scoop?
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  Speaker 2: My husband has said that. So the husband is up
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  Speaker 2: on it and we want to get her here I
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  Speaker 2: mean I would do I would go I think I'd
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  Speaker 2: like don't.
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  Speaker 4: You think she wants to leave Utah just tell her
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  Speaker 4: she can come to SoCal yeah we'll get you a
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  Speaker 4: bus and we'll just take you on a tour Of
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  Speaker 4: all the sites. You know, she seems like she'd be fine.
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  Speaker 2: She's real fine.
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  Speaker 4: Bar hop.
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  Speaker 2: And I go, my mouth has been dropping during this
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  Speaker 2: last reunion of talking about sister wives. And unbelievable. And
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  Speaker 2: I just saw a clip of something else where now
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  Speaker 2: Mary is talking. Mary's wife number one. Yes. And she's
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  Speaker 2: not happy with Christine anymore. No, she said it's Christine.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, I really didn't want her to tell the story.
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  Speaker 2: But basically, it seems like a lot is being cracked
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  Speaker 2: open about once they went public, a.k.a. got the reality show,
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  Speaker 2: what was hidden and what was acted. And it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like Cody acted for many years. Like he actually was
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  Speaker 2: still in love with Mary and was still into a
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  Speaker 2: relationship with Mary. When now we know that never was
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  Speaker 2: the case because even before the show started to air,
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  Speaker 2: he melted down.
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  Speaker 4: Melted it down.
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  Speaker 2: Melted down the wedding ring that he exchanged and received
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  Speaker 2: from Mary at their actual wedding since she was the
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  Speaker 2: only person he was really married to. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, he completely fabricated his feelings about for the sake
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  Speaker 4: of the show.
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  Speaker 2: For 14 years now or whatever, how many years it's been.
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  Speaker 4: I think he probably is at heart a monogamist and
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  Speaker 4: always has been that way. But he saw the opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to maybe not work in some office and could get
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  Speaker 4: a TV show. So he didn't have to work because
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  Speaker 4: it seems like all he does is drive from one
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  Speaker 4: house to the other. He never has a job.
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  Speaker 2: In that convertible, that Lexus white convertible. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: All the other women worked. And he just kind of
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  Speaker 4: like went from house to house.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, nobody really knows what his other, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you're right. I don't think, I think his job
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  Speaker 2: was the reality show. Internet marketing. Yeah. And also something
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  Speaker 2: with like gun shows and stuff I heard. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think he did gun sales for a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't know if he still does that. He
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  Speaker 4: doesn't strike me as somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Who works very hard.
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  Speaker 4: I have also reason to believe that he and his wife, Robin,
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  Speaker 4: the one he pretty much lives with. I think they're,
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  Speaker 4: perpetual spenders and hoarders.
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  Speaker 2: Totally.
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  Speaker 4: Because you never see anything filmed in their home.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: It must be just stacked with boxes.
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  Speaker 2: The few times they've shown things, people like Sluice have
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  Speaker 2: pointed out, there's a new picture. There's a tiny part
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  Speaker 2: on the wall that's bare, and then she gets something
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  Speaker 2: to fill it. Yes. She's definitely, and I think the
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  Speaker 2: adult kids have related to that. So I'm very happy
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  Speaker 2: to see that Christine is out and gone.
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  Speaker 4: Me too.
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  Speaker 2: And the show is going to continue. which it will
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  Speaker 2: be interesting to see now the true aftermath now that
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  Speaker 2: like all the lies or nobody's pretending anymore. And let's
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  Speaker 2: see what happens. And they'll, I guess, just be filming
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  Speaker 2: at several different locations.
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  Speaker 4: And by locations, you mean fire pits outside. That's the
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  Speaker 4: only place that they film. I think the really interesting
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  Speaker 4: part is the way the kids, how they communicate. Because
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  Speaker 4: Robin's daughters, who seem like zombies, They go to the
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  Speaker 4: same school as some of the other kids, but the
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  Speaker 4: mothers don't speak to each other.
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  Speaker 2: And when Robin, it's so weird, too, because in seeing
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  Speaker 2: the adult kids now be on the couch with all
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  Speaker 2: of them, they look and act so much like both
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  Speaker 2: the parents. Some of them look very much like Cody.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them look exactly like Janelle, like. And Christine's daughters, too,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes have the same cadence of the voice.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's kind of like, as people that have
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  Speaker 2: watched reality TV for a long time, we're like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: this is truly a second generation, which is really kind
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  Speaker 2: of bizarre to watch. And the Robin daughters are the
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  Speaker 2: same fake criers, no offense.
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  Speaker 4: Same fake criers.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to sit on the porch. With my sister-in-law.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How could this have happened? Why can't Mary stay? Even
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  Speaker 2: though I never see her, I don't let her around
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  Speaker 2: my kids. But Cody and her should try to work
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  Speaker 2: it out.
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  Speaker 4: Now, do you think, actually, that she gives a shit
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  Speaker 4: about living a polygamous life?
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  Speaker 2: In terms of which one? Robin?
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  Speaker 4: Like, having all these sister wives? Or do you think
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  Speaker 4: she just married him because she wanted to get away
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  Speaker 4: from the ex and this was an opportunity to be
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  Speaker 4: a TV star?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was all of it. Yeah. I think she...
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  Speaker 2: did like him. I think they had sexual chemistry. I
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  Speaker 2: think she was like, I don't care if he sleeps
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  Speaker 2: with these other women, because she kind of knew. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm the newest and the cutest. And he probably told
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  Speaker 2: her too, I really don't sleep with Mary or Christine.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he always screwed Janelle because he said
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  Speaker 2: I was a boy toy to her. So I think
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  Speaker 2: they had like a little freaky deaky, like friends benefits
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  Speaker 2: kind of a thing. And I just think she really
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  Speaker 2: didn't care about that. And she was smart enough to
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  Speaker 2: know that, like, I'm younger. So I'm going to have
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  Speaker 2: kids past when they are. And I'm going to be
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  Speaker 2: the queen anyway. But I really thought, I really think
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  Speaker 2: she liked having the nights alone with him not being there.
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  Speaker 2: She liked to watch what she wanted on TV. She
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  Speaker 2: was financially taken care of. Those other women were working.
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  Speaker 4: Order stuff online.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. She did not want him around all the time.
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  Speaker 2: And also, this is what her plan really was, was
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  Speaker 2: to be sitting on the porch, having all these people,
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  Speaker 2: the show to go forever, her to be Queen Bee. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think she is really bummed about it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I also feel she knows that if he's gotten
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  Speaker 2: rid of all these women, there's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: time where he might tire of her too. Or, plot twist,
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  Speaker 2: I think three years from now, prediction, it just came.
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  Speaker 4: There's going to be another woman.
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  Speaker 2: No, she leaves him.
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  Speaker 4: She may leave him if the money dries up because
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  Speaker 4: I think she likes spending money more than she likes him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: But I also think he loves being a TV star
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  Speaker 4: more than he loves her. So if he thinks the
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  Speaker 4: show can only continue to exist if he finds another wife,
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  Speaker 4: he will find one.
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  Speaker 2: And she might, yeah, and she'll say, I'm okay with that. too.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she'll really be jealous about it. She'll
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  Speaker 2: be like, good, I don't want to, I'm tired of
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  Speaker 2: screwing you. Now she's getting closer to 50.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think that they get it on a.
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  Speaker 7: Lot?
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  Speaker 2: I do, but I don't even think she's into it.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's like my wifely duty. Right. Anyway, dying
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  Speaker 2: to get her on the show. Then I saw Rachel
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  Speaker 2: Lindsay on Former Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Turned reporter and now podcaster of Higher Learning. So she
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  Speaker 2: was part of being honored for people that have gone
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  Speaker 2: on to have podcasts that do well. And Karyana Naba
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  Speaker 2: was there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Of Dancing with the Stars. And she said a really
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  Speaker 2: interesting thing on the panel.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: She said, I feel, and she got emotional talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I get a lot more criticism for my opinion of
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  Speaker 2: the dancers of Dancing with the Stars from fans who
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  Speaker 2: are mostly female fans than the men.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to our world, Keri.
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  Speaker 2: Than the men.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to our world, friend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Let's start a gang.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Why my opinion is more scrutinized than when the
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  Speaker 2: men say you didn't dip far enough or whatever. And
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  Speaker 2: I went to her and I said, I'm so glad
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  Speaker 2: you said that. It's so true.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know why women.
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  Speaker 2: Are like that about other women. I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: they don't see the need to want to support each
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  Speaker 2: other more yet when it's a man.
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  Speaker 4: When you would think the reaction would be, it's a sisterhood.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: It's something like if somebody comes against your family. It's like,
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  Speaker 4: I can say that about my own family, but you can't.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: That should be the theory about any sort of criticism
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  Speaker 4: or review of a show or of a dancer. It's like,
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  Speaker 4: only I can do it. But somehow men are able
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  Speaker 4: to give their opinions and without anyone being upset.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: It's a strange vortex that we live in. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so many men have entered the realm of talking
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  Speaker 2: about housewives and all of that, which they have every
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  Speaker 2: right to do and lots, you know, they have fun,
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  Speaker 2: different opinions or whatever. But, you know... I think what
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  Speaker 2: makes it interesting when you and I talk about it
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  Speaker 2: is because the reason I've always been attracted to it
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  Speaker 2: is because we are women. We can relate to not
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  Speaker 2: having a problem with a sister-in-law, a wedding situation, inviting
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  Speaker 2: this person or not, your kids doing this, you're fighting
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  Speaker 2: with your husband.
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  Speaker 4: All of that we've lived through. Managing marriages, children, postpartum,
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  Speaker 4: all these little nuances that we have a unique view
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  Speaker 4: into you would think that our opinions would be valued
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  Speaker 4: but sometimes they're not and it's maddening yeah maddening yes
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  Speaker 4: so i get it carrie the.
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  Speaker 2: Car is beautiful where did you end up going for it.
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  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that data's connections with they have more
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  Speaker 3: cars for more dealerships than like anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Else you have to put me in touch what's it
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  Speaker 2: called it's.
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  Speaker 3: Dune adl where dune adl there's an accent on the e.
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  Speaker 2: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I got it on Done Deal Cars.
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  Speaker 2: Lift, please. You're going past Kimmage.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: Done Deal Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
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  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
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  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
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  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
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  Speaker 6: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
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  Speaker 6: filed against me. When your free will was about to
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  Speaker 6: be taken from you, what would you do if it
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  Speaker 6: was given back?
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  Speaker 7: Where did that need come from where you thought that
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  Speaker 7: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
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  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
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  Speaker 5: I need a home dad.
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  Speaker 7: What happens next?
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  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
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  Speaker 7: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
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  Speaker 7: happens next.
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  Speaker 4: I decided to risk it all.
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  Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was.
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  Speaker 3: You're worth the work.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
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  Speaker 3: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
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  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
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  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
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  Speaker 2: So she was great on the panel. So this was
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  Speaker 2: like one of the panels zoomed in here. And JWoww
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  Speaker 2: was on, and I thought she said a great thing. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So one of the questions that the moderator asked was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you give so much of your life. And
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  Speaker 2: it was a lot about that. And a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the women up there were kind of saying like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: this part is really hard. You know, and when you
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  Speaker 2: realize you can't hide something, but then the benefit is
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  Speaker 2: that by putting it out there, you can benefit so
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  Speaker 2: many people that are watching at home. And so with JWoww,
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  Speaker 2: her son has autism. Oh, okay. And so she was like,
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  Speaker 2: I knew as he was a nonverbal two-year-old, as he
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  Speaker 2: got into being later two and the cameras were back
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  Speaker 2: in the house, I knew that people, moms, would start
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  Speaker 2: to notice and question. And I didn't want to be
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  Speaker 2: that mom that was like, that the camera made it
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  Speaker 2: look like I was in denial about my son's prognosis.
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  Speaker 2: And I wanted to show what early diagnosis can do
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  Speaker 2: and help in all of that. And I think from
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  Speaker 2: what I recall is that was part of, which is
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  Speaker 2: a common thing with, with mothers and their husbands when
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  Speaker 2: they don't agree with the diagnosis.
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  Speaker 4: Of a child.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what broke up her marriage,
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  Speaker 2: but I kind of remember that might've been a strong
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  Speaker 2: part of it. So she's like, so then my divorce
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  Speaker 2: was on there and everything. So I thought she came
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  Speaker 2: off great into how many people she's helped with that,
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  Speaker 2: which is so important. Important.
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  Speaker 4: Really important.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she was great. Candy was great. Candy from Atlanta. She,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: one thing that she said was, it was like, what
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: was the worst moment? And she's like, when we were,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: when we, when I was accused with my husband, On
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the show of drugging a woman, a cast member, with
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: the hopes to take sexual advantage of her. And I'm like.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: How do you ever get past that? I can't.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I remember, you know, that's where she goes,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: the lies! You know, that's a famous moment. And, like,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Peter's sitting there with me and he's like, what? And
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah. And so I went up to her
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: after and I'm like, I'm really glad that you... Don't
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: just brush over that. Bring it up for the rest
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: of your life. Because as someone that has had lies
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: and shit told about me publicly, and till the day
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I die, there's gonna be one person in my comments
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: that are like, I don't believe you or this or that.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: It's happened to me a few times. Nothing as bad
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: as this, but bad. Calling me a thief and everything.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: And even though I proved it without a doubt, it's like,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: you still wanna shout it from the rooftops because you're like,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: it didn't happen. And I don't want anyone to like
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: watch an old episode and then not watch the follow-up
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: episodes and think that.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: And so she was great. And then I talked to
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: her after and I go, I can't believe Drew didn't
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: come to BravoCon.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Not good.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: And she's like, yeah, especially because there's all this talk
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: of them replacing people and whatnot. And I said, I
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: want to see. You better show up. I go, how
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: would you feel about Kim Zolciak coming back? Because I
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: want to see what's going on in her life. They
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: get back together. They're breaking up. She's a gambler. She's not,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: you know, she's a gambler, but then he doesn't make
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: money and they hate each other. They love each other.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: She's doing fake clickbait about her daughter being pregnant when
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: she's not. And, you know, because she's desperate for money
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: and selling her, you know, old shoes, whatever. I'm like,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: get the cameras. Why give that to anybody else but Bravo?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: And she was like, tell them.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: I feel like they will bring her back. I mean,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: if they brought her back. The Bravo audience really likes nostalgia.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: And I think they love to circle. That's the great
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: thing about reality shows. If you watch a scripted show,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: you know, this is us. That character in that period
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: of time is suspended there.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: But with reality shows, we can continue keep following all
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: of their lives. Years and years after the Keogh kids
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: in Orange County or. you know, Kim Zolciak's family. And
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: this is just another chapter that I think is wildly fascinating.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Why would they not want to cover it? Also, because
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: it's not her own show anymore, she doesn't have as
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: much control. And I think you're going to have a
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: much more authentic story.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: For Kim, you mean? Because it's not the don't be
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: tardy for the party.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I find Kim fascinating. And I would totally love to
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: see this, whatever it is, whether she becomes really raw,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: whether she's in denial, whether She changes over the course of...
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: But 100%. And what I love about Candy is that
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: through all these franchises and Bravo cons and everything, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: two women love each other and they hate each other
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and they say things like, if that person's filming, then
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I won't be in the same room and I don't
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: want them back and da-da-da. And Candy's like, you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: with that Candy face, I don't care. Like, no, she
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: doesn't really care. Like, she'll get in there and call
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: you out, but... She's smart enough and she's so above
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: it that it doesn't matter who they put on that
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: cast with her. She will engage, be authentic, and always,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, always be worldwide on top candy.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Well, I think that's why production loves her is because
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: she had a career that preceded this.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: And I think that's probably the frustration on the production end.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I interview a lot of producers.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: And it is frustrating when you work with somebody who's
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: sort of curated their own persona because they wanted to
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: be a reality star and they are, as I always say,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: plucked from obscurity, right?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: They don't- that the reality show producers prefer a candy?
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: They prefer a candy.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: They prefer a candy.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Because they're going to show up on time. They understand
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: it's for the sake of the show. They're a team
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: player versus someone sometimes who's plucked from obscurity, who doesn't
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: have some sort of professional background. And then they get
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: too caught up in the tunnel of what the audience thinks.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I'd rather have a Candy working on my show.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. As long as Candy will do it, they
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: should never get rid of Candy for all these reasons.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: She's too good for the show. She's too good for
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the show. I don't want her to ever leave. And
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I think she should continue on. I mean, if she
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: made it past this lie and proved it, I don't
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: think people will ever fuck with her again. Because she
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: proved it and- You know, and have fun with her.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Enjoy her. She can be a great friend to you. But, yeah,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: if you piss her off, though, you're going to get
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: the candy. You're going to get the pool. Let me
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: see who else. And then, of course, Kyle was there.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: And Kyle was really authentic, too, in talking about how, yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I've been through a lot on this show. I've, you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: had issues with my sisters and this and that. And
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: then this thing with my husband, I knew– I wasn't
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: going to try to like hide it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: And, and I, I mean, I totally believe that. I
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: don't think, I think when people say, does she use
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: things for storylines? No, I think someone like her, if
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: you are going to sign up for this, and this
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: is why this discussion was really so interesting. If you're
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: going to sign up for it, you can't hide it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: And she said that she goes, you can't hide it
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: because not only are there receipts, but the receipts are
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: on film from episodes that have aired before. So she's like,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: so when Sutton was being like, name him, name him,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: name him. Kyle, in her head, was seeing the actual
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: stories that she's viewed back watching the show in which
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: she did all those things. And just on this last episode, Kyle,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: so Kyle has her beautiful dinner party and her pot
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: dinner party or whatever you want to call it. And
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: you watched the episode, right? And then they have another discussion,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: she and Sutton, after the name him scene. And she's like, well,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I was upset, Kyle, because my husband, my ex-husband Christian,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: he just got a huge, a huge promotion. And he
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: is going to move to London. And he wanted to
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: bring my son. But my son doesn't want to go.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: And Kyle, in my opinion, is smart enough to know
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that if your kid is over 13- you know, it's
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: kind of up to the kid. If the kid wants
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to live in London, it's going to be hurtful for you.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: But like, but it sounded like the kid didn't. So
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: quickly she says, the kid's not going, which is the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: saddest part of the story. If that was the case,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the kid's not going. And she was okay. So then
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: cause like, so I get that you were upset, but
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you had a happy ending, right? He's not going. And
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: then she's like, but you know, I, now I have
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: to get more child support because And we already know
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: that you get $ 300, 000 tax-free a month. And she goes,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I have to get more because now technically I have
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: him more percentage of the time. And it's just a
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: problem to have to go to deal with him legally.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: You know she's not going to have to go to court.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: It's going to be one call.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: One call to the attorneys.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: One call to up to $ 375 a month.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: I know, but that's why we like that show because
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: it's completely unrelatable. I mean, listen, reality shows, you and
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I love them because it's a study in human behavior.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: And we're studying the behavior of people who have completely
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: lost sense of reality because they have such a privileged life. Right.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: That's why we like it.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Whether they share a husband with three people.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Totally.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: And I believe are the least paid reality people. stars
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: in the history of reality.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: You always have such a good point about that too.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: They have been on the show for years and years.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: 17 seasons. 17 seasons sister wise.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: They didn't get like a different haircut. They didn't get veneers.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: They didn't do any of the things that we now
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: expect of reality stars.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe they're the ones that keep it real more than anybody.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I said that. I go, I think, yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: like we just see like very, you know, the average home,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: a bunch of shit stacked up in the corner, not
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: even a porter's house. Just, I didn't get to the
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: mail this week. Like just very real, not.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this. Are you such a dork
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: like I am that when Christine broke up with Cody
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: and they were filming in that little room, did you
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: look at all the books on the bookshelves?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: No, did you zoom in? Oh, yeah. Let me guess
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: what they were. Okay. Let me guess what they were.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I think they were a lot of inspirational.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, of course.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Like, God speaks in whispers. A little bit. Kind of
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. Okay, what was it?
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like toilet books.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, inspiration things that, you know, like, keep
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: it going, girl. That Cheryl author that Reese Witherspoon always
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: makes for movies. Like, that kind of stuff.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: All right, good. Okay, getting back to Beverly Hills. So-
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Then what I loved is that Kyle– and I didn't
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: even think about it, but Kyle brings up, well, you've
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: kind of done a lot, Sutton. You were upset and
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: saying that we should be sympathetic to you because you
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: had to sell your one house in Bel Air and
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: buy another house in Bel Air.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: And then the other one was– There was another one
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that she brought up about it just being an extra. Oh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: that you're the day after Dorit's burglary, you were saying
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that your Paris designer who designs the berets or whatever,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: couldn't get him into the country. And so that you
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: were going a lot that like, it's always about you
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and that you are very disconnected from not just rich people,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: but like, Anybody, like even rich people, extremely rich people.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: She's not empathetic.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: And she has no clue. But that also makes for
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: a great housewife. And I'm thoroughly enjoying the weirdness of Sutton.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. We need her, protect her at all costs.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: And speaking of Beverly Hills, we'll go back to Beverly Hills. Okay,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: so let me just finish this variety. So that was
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: really fun. So I loved that. And then Teresa was
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: there and Heather Gay, who I talked to, but they
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: were not on a panel. So they're taking lots of photos.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Here I am with Heather Gay. She told me that
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: she wasn't happy with the way I covered the black guy.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Which guy?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Her black eye. Her black eye, not black guy.
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: You're like, what juicy part in Housewives?
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I was like, what part did I miss?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: No, the black eye.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: She didn't like, but why?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I cover so much. I don't remember. But even
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: when I'm friends with the people.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: If I'm watching the show.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: You're watching the show.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And I know that it's edited and everything. And I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: do feel bad because we have– I've gone to Beauty Lab.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: We've hung out one night. You know, we've talked about
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: our kids getting married and being grandma-huthers together. So I
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: do thoroughly like her and I love her on the show.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: But if I said something in which I was annoyed
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: with– I know her– I know about the black eye.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: And I've said also that I don't know if she was,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you know, pleasing– production by not sharing what she should
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: be sharing, protecting anybody else, protecting herself, protecting Jen Chow.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but we were all frustrated with it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: We were all frustrated.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: But she hinted that we will find out more soon. Oh, good.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: About the black eye.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Finally.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And very juicy with her and Monica and suing the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: beauty lab. That's the new girl on Salt Lake who
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I've explained has the weird... Relationship with the mom.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Yes. But I feel like those two, they are desperate
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: to be on the show. The mother and the daughter.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Do you think they're going to the point? Dreams of
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: being TV stars.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Well, one of the things is when she can take
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: her Range Rover away whenever she wants.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: The mother. And I did feel like this scene was very...
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: scripted that they're in the front room. The car drives up.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It's the mom. She comes out, they have bad acting,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: mean words. Yep. And I literally feel like when the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: mom is like screaming at her, she's like, like, like,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: you know, I fucking the camera. Yeah. And, and so
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: then she's like, no mom, I'm not getting you. I'm
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: not driving you home or getting an Uber. And then
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the mom just walks off with a mic pack on
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: her back down the street. And it just, that A
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: lot of people are like, no way does production do that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: They never leave you stranded down a street. No. You know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: they never, there's a car waiting.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: But do you remember when she said, when I was
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: 12 years old, she dropped me off with a strange
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: family in Pennsylvania because she wanted to pursue her dream?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I need to know what the dream is. Because if
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: she wanted to be a real estate agent, that's very
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: different than she wanted to be a Rockette.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I said. I don't think she
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: got a job selling IBM computers. No. I think it
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: was either a man. some romance that she thought I
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: want to live in New York lifestyle. And then the
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: guy dumped her and then she realized she couldn't afford
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to live there. Or it was some type of what
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: she thought would lead to a glamorous acting something.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And I would love for Monica to reveal that on
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the reunion. tell us yeah why why not tell us
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: that's juicy but.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: It's also going to say a lot about who you
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: are and who your mother is and why you're on
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: this show somebody wrote me and said that they work
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: together at a company who she and monica monica was
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: like you know like i think you know like right
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: out of college or something like lower level position but
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: she made it very clear my dream is to be
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: famous all right so well you got it she did she.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Secreted it she manifested it um Here is Paige, just
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the cutest. Yeah. Just gorgeous. And she was on the
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: panel about successful podcasters who come from reality TV. Yes.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And one of the questions they asked her was, or
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: they asked the panel and she joined in, what is
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: it like when you make true friendships on the show,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you're both on the show, and one of you doesn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: get asked back, but you can on the show. Is
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: it hard to continue the friendship when your friend is
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: no longer a housewife or whatever?
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And of course, she's very good friends with Hannah and
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: they have a popular podcast together, The Giggling Squad. And
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: so she's like, well, in my case, it was the
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: best thing that could ever happen for my co-host is
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that Hannah wasn't asked back to Summer House. Because then she,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you know, I always say firing whatever is the best
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: because then you don't have the comfort of going, well,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I could work harder. But I know come June 1st,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going to spend three months drinking and being an
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: asshole in a summer house, you know. And then Hannah,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: you know, is a huge touring stand-up now. And then
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: they have this popular podcast. So I thought that was great.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: That's an anomaly. That's an anomaly.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Probably, yes.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think that really happens a lot.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: It doesn't happen much.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: That was a good question to ask.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Because a lot of the housewives, once they're, they are
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: let go, I think they really have this epiphany where
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: they realize they've become addicted to fame.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's easy for somebody to
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: be around someone else that's still on a show when
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: you're struggling in that space. Like, what is my, how
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: do I identify myself now? Like, you know, we always
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: say like somebody erases their real housewives and blah, blah,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: blah from their bio. That must be like putting shackles on.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Like, who am I in the world now?
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess Bethany Frankel recently said on her show
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: or whatever, she said, the two people that will never
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: be asked back are myself and Carol now because we have,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: we have like stood up to Andy and I'm like,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: oh my God, I wonder if she's trying to get
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Carol to come.
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: On her show.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: That would be a good one.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: That is the interview that people want to see those
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: two talk again. I think even more than Jill. I
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: think people really love the dynamic between Carol and Bethany.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: But Carol will not hold back and will not be
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: there to try to get chummy with her. She will
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: be like, what the fuck, Bethany? You know you were
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: acting like... that you were overly hurt by me when
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: nothing had happened that summer and you were like blindsided me.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And I don't know what, what would the fuck was
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: your motivation girl? And if, and if Bethany is like,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: she should do it, she should do that. And if
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Bethany is like, all right, I'll tell you what it was.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I think that would be good.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Like that would be, and it's not about you getting
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a new haircut or getting Beyonce's former stylist. It had
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with that. Like what was the demise
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: of that? And I think when you have An ex-best friend,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: whether it's on a reality show or in real life,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: you kind of want to be like, what was your
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: moment that you snapped and was like, we're done. We're done.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: And I'm taking her down in front of the cameras.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Like, what was it? Even for like someone who's, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: pretty diabolical, you know, for Bethany as far as being
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: a reality.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Don't you want to see that?
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: So speaking of new podcasts, Rachel's podcast is coming.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I saw.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I told you, I don't think she should be doing
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: anything for at least eight months.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens. Obviously, the way she's got to,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: what I said, tell the story of every moment and
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: when she almost got caught. If she does it at
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the top of her show and spreads it over a
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: few episodes, then that's going to be great. But then
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: will she be able to keep people coming back every
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: week once she's shared her story? Or does she just...
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I believe my prediction is that she'll just start out with,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you know, interviewing people that are fitness experts and, you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: emotional healers. And, you know, and then when that dries out,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: then she will start talking about Vannerpump. And then she will.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I think a lot struggle with that because they start
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: shows and they really don't want to talk about the
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: thing that actually made them famous.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: And then they get so much pressure to actually talk
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: about it that I could see where it would be
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: very frustrating.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: There's Candy. Here's Louie and Teresa. And I photobombed their
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: photo here. I saw. They really are, like, so fun.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: And I think he, like, loves his life being married
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: to Teresa.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he does.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: They pose. They take photos. They look great. They go
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: to all the things. And he's, like, always, like, a nice,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: happy guy. So there you go. Let's talk about The
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. I'm so fired up about it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Why don't you fill people in? You can tell, explain
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: what is going on. We now know that he, the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: golden bachelor we know now is gotten with Teresa. It
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: was down to two women, her and this other girl.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the other woman?
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Leslie.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Leslie, who was more of a hipper woman. She, I
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: don't believe she's ever been married or she was divorced,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: had several relationships in her lifetime. Unlike Teresa, who much
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: like Jerry had a similar, married the high school sweetheart,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: was a There he's 72, she's 70. I think Leslie
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: was more like 64 maybe, but like act acted and
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: had a younger persona about her for sure.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: And super hot.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, and fun. And so I did not watch
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: like the final episodes and stuff. Did you? Yes.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: So please tell us.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: So what you need to know is this, when he
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: was packaged, They made it seem like this guy was
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: laying in a fetal position since his wife died, has
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: not been on one date, and that also he is
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: this extremely successful restaurateur. Who has a lake house, yes.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: And it's positioned like the woman that comes into his life,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: it's here's the key, extra key, you're going to move
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: into this lake house and we're going to set our
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: dreams on fire.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Well, two days before the finale, Hollywood Reporter puts this.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: great article out. I love an expose. I live for them. Okay.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: So this woman, Carolyn has come forward, Carolyn in air quotes,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: because she wants to go through another name because lunatics
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: like myself are going to find her. I want to
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: interview her.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: So she says she was actually in a two and
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: a half year relationship with him, which is like, wait, what?
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Also that he's not this like restaurateur. He had some
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: hamburger French, not a franchise, but like a hamburger business
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: or something. But he sold it in 1985.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, I saw that.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: And he's been working essentially like as a handyman. Which,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: by the way, is totally fine. It's just why was
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: he painted as something completely different? Like just let the
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: guy be who he is.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Because he said when it came out that– so they
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: met at a mental health facility in which she was
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the maintenance van and she worked there.
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: And they met and started dating two months after the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: wife passed.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Two months.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The maintenance thing is if people are like, wait,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: because we're all thinking about that first episode where he's
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: looking out at the lake and everything. And so he
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: has responded and said, yes, I did that because I
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: was already retired. And that's something I enjoy doing, which
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: is a very normal profession. And you're out and you're
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: doing things and it does not mean anything wrong.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: No one disagrees with that. But it was presented a
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: different way.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the Bachelorette people, Bachelor people could say,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Golden Bachelorette. Well, we just didn't include that part because,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: but you should have because it's his day-to-day life.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: That's his story.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: That's who he is. Okay.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: The other thing that came out in the article, because
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: this one you're going to love, especially because you talk
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: about Peter being cheap all the time.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: So apparently Jerry, and by the way, his name is
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: spelled G-E-R-R-Y, which is enough to drive you crazy, but
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: his name's Gary. So it looks like Jerry, but it's
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: pronounced Gary.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Wait, really? Yes. Wait, everyone calls him Gary?
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Everybody.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That you're right. And why is it spelled like that?
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: It's enough to drive you insane. Okay. So when Gary
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: was with Carolyn.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: The girl from the two and a half years that
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: he met.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Okay. He wanted her to go half season on all
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: the bills. Fine. But here's the weirdest story. When they
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: would go out to eat, she would have to give
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: him money ahead of time. so that when the bill came,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: he would feel good about looking like he's paying the
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: whole bill.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: See, I don't think this is him being cheap. I
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: think it's him not having a lot of money. I
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: really don't think he has that much money.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Well, probably, but that's still weird.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: It's horrible.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Give me the money ahead of time so that I
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: can look like the hero and I'm paying. That's appalling.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Controlling.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: And weird.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: And, okay, so that comes out. Also, when she moved
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: in with him- She said he wanted her to give
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: him $ 1, 000 a month for living expenses, but she managed
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: to get him down to $ 850. Right. And then, of course,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the thing that really upsets us ladies is that in
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: October of 2019, and she was ready to join him. Gary,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: at his high school reunion. And he said, according to her,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not taking you to the reunion looking like that. Carolyn,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: who said that she'd put on 10 pounds at the
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: time due to stress, probably because she didn't gather up
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the money before going to dinner, recalled Turner allegedly saying,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: referring to her body, that's when they called it quits.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: And so then you Let me see. He said, I
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: retired at 55, but I was very happy to giving back.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: So that's why he started doing this other job. Anyway, obviously,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Rolling Stone had this woman and this interview way before
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: the show ever aired.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: And they waited until two days before.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: And they waited for two days before. And then he
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and Teresa and he's like, You know, I just am
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: happy with Teresa.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not answering any questions.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: And one of the things he said about Teresa that's
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: also pissing off people is he said, I feel like
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: she's the one that could make a relationship. last, which
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: is kind of a diss to the Leslie who's had
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: other long-term relationships in her 64 years and not just
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: one person who died. Okay.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Also, he said in an interview that he knew it
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: was meant to be with Teresa because she had mentioned
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: that She has a son that lives near Charleston, South Carolina,
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: and he's always had this dream of moving there. So
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: it would like sync up with his life plans. And
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: also she still works. He only asked her way late
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: into the game. Like it came up in conversation on
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: one of their dates like that she works and has
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: this career. And it was very much like.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Like, tell me.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Tell me about your career. I'm like, that is not
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: something you ask like date two.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the thing. We all know we're only
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: seeing certain things. So he could have gotten everybody's financials
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: on the dates and The Bachelor could have chosen not
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: to show it because it would turn us off. It
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: is my opinion now.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: That in every time he met a woman. No, but
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I'm saying I think he asked. I think he asked
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: and got the info.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: No, no, I know.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: So I know you're saying. We didn't see it. I
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: think that was part of him choosing people.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I think he's like very selfish.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: And I think he likes her because he wants the
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Charleston house. So this whole story about living in the
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: lake house is a moot point because they're moving to Charleston,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: South Carolina.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that one bachelor way back?
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Jason Mesnick.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had the supposed lake or boathouse thing.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Melissa Rycroft, she went to the boathouse. And
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: then she told me later, she's like, I'm looking around
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: the place and there's not one picture in a frame
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: of him. It was like a rented house.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: It wasn't his. It was like a staged house.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: And then it came out later that they completely embellished
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: his job too.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I went cold turkey for a couple seasons because of that.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: I was so mad.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: And then he dumped her on the air to go
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: for– then he went for Molly. And they are still
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: together now.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: And they have a daughter.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: They're totally happy.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Well, some of that is, you know, the show telling
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: you to do this. Don't mention your maintenance job.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: So we can't be completely mad about that.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Of course we can be mad because we invest all
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: our time into the show.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: But, you know, welcome to being a famous dude. It sucks.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: You know, good luck to you and Teresa.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: And they're getting a TV wedding, so they're going to
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: do just fine.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: You think people still want this TV wedding? You don't
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: think people care about this that much?
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they care. 13 million people, I think, watch the finale.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: All right, then they'll have their thing. But I wonder now,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: will they show him, oh, this is what they're going
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: to do. They're going to do like, what's been happening
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: before the wedding? And they're going to show up going
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: to the mental health facility.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: And then very much making it very clear, we have
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: loved that you have come and helped us in this
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: and that.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: But if he's getting a salary, that's not helping out
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: and volunteering. And I believe it was a salary. He
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: was not volunteering to work there.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: No.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: He was a hired maintenance man.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a hired maintenance guy.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Which is fine, but they're going to definitely do that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, and how much he loved it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: They're moving to the South Carolina.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Totally. Or they'll make it, that's the theme of the wedding.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: A maintenance wedding.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Now, here's the thing. If you're Teresa's kids, grandkids, whatever. Yeah.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Abort mission, mom. Don't get married on TV to this weirdo.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, I, well, one thing's for sure is I'd
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: be like, you're doing a prenup.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Prenup.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: And you're doing a will that, you know, where each
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: money stays with the kids. If the other one dies,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: it doesn't go to the spouse. Yes.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: But is she going to listen to them now? Oh,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: and then they're going to be like, we really supported
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: our mom doing the show. And now that's going to
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: be the documentary afterward.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it reminds me of the famous, famous– this is
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: from 2000– Oh, that was the million. Do you want
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to marry a millionaire? Yes. It was the first of
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: its kind. It was before The Bachelor. Listen up, kiddies, kiddos.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: We're going to tell you a little juicy scoop history.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: There was a show. It was on Fox. It was
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: a one night thing for two hours where a man
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: was behind a thing. You only heard his voice. I
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: don't know if he got to see the girl's looks.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: But the girls did not get to see him. And
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: they were lined up and they went through a series
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: of questions until he decided, based on all the questions,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: over a two-hour live event, who he was going to
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: ask to marry him. And he asked this girl who was,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I believe, a nurse. She said yes. And then they
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: meet and she does marry him. Yeah. But shortly after,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: it comes out that he's not... He's technically a millionaire,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: but barely. It was like he owned a house in
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: San Diego, but there was a loan on it. So
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: even though it might've retailed or whatever for like 850,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: he still owed like 750. I don't know what the
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: story was. He was not rich. He was doing a,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: he was trying to be a standup comic.
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Just so embarrassing. And he also did a cable access
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: show in San Diego that my husband, Peter, used to
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: watch and remembered it. Remembered it from that. It was
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: really bad. So again, someone who was always wanting to
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: be on TV, always wanted to be famous. And then
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: there were, of course, those domestic violence things and all
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: these stories and restraining orders. And that's where they're like,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: why did... So they never slept together. I think they
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: went on the cruise.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: They went on the cruise and she was totally despondent
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: on the cruise. She was like, what have I done?
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: I need to get out of here.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: So she gets out of it. And then I want
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: to say she did Playboy or something. She did. She
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: was like around for like the next four years popping
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: on like a hard copy or something.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Inside edition.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: And then I think she did finally marry somebody and
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: like lives in Thousand Oaks.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: And I think she's like a nurse. Yeah, still.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Still a nurse. Yeah. But yeah.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: That was a doozy of a show. Remember the women?
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: You can see him, but he was like behind the
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: screen and they were like, I'm going to make all
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: your dreams happen.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yes. Like he was a billionaire today. Like they made
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: it up here. If this was today, it would have been,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: do you want to marry a billionaire? Yes. And you
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: would say, yes, I don't care what you look like
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: because we are going to be billionaires. flying on private
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: jets and whatever, like basically Jackie Onassis marrying Onassis. Like,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I know you're an ugly little troll, but how else,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: but you know, the Kennedy's have cut off my security
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: for my two kids and I want to buy a
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: cashier sweater in every color. So I'm going to marry
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: this guy and he'll like to have Jackie O.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: As his wife. Did you read that book yet?
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I've read part, I've read many books on it. Which
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: book are you referring to?
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: No, no, this is the new book you need to,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: this is your vacation book. It's called Jackie Public Private Secret.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: It's by J. Randy Tarabarelli. And it's all about Jackie.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: And there are so many stories in it. And they
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: talk about the Aristotle marriage. They only actually had sex
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: one time.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: That's what I always thought.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: They only had sex one time. And she basically said
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: to him, I will be your, you know, the public
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: trophy wife because his reputation had taken quite a big dig.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: And you need to give me the lifestyle that I want.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: She was terrible with money. She spent so much money.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: And yeah, they only slept together one time.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I totally believe that. And you know that she snagged
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: him from her sister. Carol Radswell, mother-in-law.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Her sister was in love with him. But that wasn't
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: the first time because her sister actually first met JFK.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: And then their mother said, you know, he should really
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: be with Jackie, not you. So that Aristotle was the
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: second time that happened. There is so much in, you
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: are going to, your head will explode.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited. And I just remember my mom who,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: you know, was around that age or a little younger,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: but still. And I just remember like years later when we'd,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: we'd get the people magazine and stuff. And it was like,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: you know, her and Onassis doing something. And she was like, Oh, please.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: She went from JFK to that old little troll. It's
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: because he's a shipping person or whatever. And that was
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: like the first time I think I was introduced to
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: like gold digging. Well, you knew who helped her.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: He had a sister, Artemis. And I think that was
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: her name.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Onassis did. Yes.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: And she became really close friends with her. And the
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: sister helped kind of like grease the wheels. You know,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Jackie would be really good for you. They were like working.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: She was like the wing woman, kind of greasing the wheels.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Like you should really be with Jackie.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Do you think JFK Jr. ever was like hanging out
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: with his stepdad?
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: No.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: And enjoying him on any level?
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: No.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: He didn't actually spend that much time with them at all.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think they did. I think all his father's
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: figures came from the uncles of the Kennedys, you know? Yes.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think he had any relationship. And what happened
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: with Onassis' daughter that got everything?
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, she hated Jackie. She hated her. despised her. And
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Jackie made some sort of agreement before he died.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: What was her name? Christina.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Christina.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: And she made some sort of contractual agreement where she
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: would get less money and then she always kicked herself
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: for it. Wait, she didn't get as much money as
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: she thought.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Wait, Jackie would get less.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: She got less money in the end. Because Christina did
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: not like her and really was pushing her father like,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: you know, I just don't want this woman to get
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of your money. So they were kind of
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: like on the outs. Also, there's a great moment in
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: the book where she was obsessed with, for a period
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: of time, Maria Callas, who had a long affair with Aristotle.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: She was the very famous Greek opera singer. And one
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: night she goes to Paris and she stood outside Maria's
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: apartment building just to see what she looked like. And
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: she said that when she walked outside, she felt such pity.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: She was like, this is just so sad. Because here
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: she's married to Aristotle. Maria's really in love with Aristotle.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: But he wouldn't marry her. I think he actually pushed
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: her to get an abortion too. It is a wild book.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Okay. What's the name of the book again?
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: It's called Jackie Public Private Secret by J. Randy Tarabarelli.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Now let's talk about a doc that is on Netflix.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: A lot of people are talking about it. It's called
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Mother God. Oh my gosh. I have seen a few
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: of the episodes. How many episodes are there total? Three. Yeah.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I think I'm almost at the end of the second.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: And why don't you give a little intro about what
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: this is and who this woman is?
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: So her name's Amy Carlson. Okay. And she became known
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: as Mother God by her followers. She started this new
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: age movement. She actually co-founded it. She meets this man
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: who looks like Santa Claus on meth.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: And they hook up and they start making videos online.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: And he says to her, you know, you really are divine.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: And she starts, you know, believing it because she's also
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: high all the time. So she gets all of these
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: people like really fascinated by these videos that she puts out.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: And this is only like a couple of years ago. Yeah,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: this is like five years ago.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: This was during like COVID times. So you have the
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: nuttiest people who are just looking online all the time.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: And she starts saying that she has a connection to
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: all these people that have passed away. Michael Jackson, Marilyn Monroe.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: She was Marilyn Monroe. She was Marilyn Monroe, but they're
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: also communicating with her because they were all members of
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: the Intergalactic Federation of Light. So they communicated to her.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: And so she had a portal into the fifth dimension
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: and that she would eventually ascend into heaven and that
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: people needed to send her money to support her. And
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: she would give people crazy advice, like drinking colloidal silver.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: And her health began to really decline.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: What is colloidal silver?
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Colloidal silver is like bits of silver used in jewelry
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: floating in liquid. And there are nutty people that drink it.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Who think that what?
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: They think it's going to help your immune system. And
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: during COVID, they thought it would help with COVID as well.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: But what it does is it turns your skin like
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: a purple-gray hue. And also put you into liver failure.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Is that why that guy became like the real human
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: smurf or something? Yes, yes.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: He was drinking the silver. And there are lots of
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: people in Facebook groups right now as we speak who
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: are purple, writing about how they need to take colloidal silver.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: It's insane. So she was espousing all these weird points
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: of view. And she also believed that she could heal
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: other people's cancer with the power of love. Hence the
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: name Love Has Won, which is the name of this
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: group of followers. So people would fly out and they
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: would move into this like little compound.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: And this one girl comes with like three or four kids. Yeah.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: So eventually she ends up dying.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: And they're all just smoking pot and drinking all day.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: And they're like, no problem. That helps us get closer
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: to God. But what I found crazy is some of
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: these people talking for the doc. So I assume they
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: still believe what they're saying, right? And they're all like...
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: attractive and they they have that weird language almost like
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Scientology where like words were just created for it and
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: they're explaining it with such conviction such conviction that I'm
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: like I totally see why people get sucked in and
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: believe it because it's like it'll be like Mother God
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: is part of the escalation of interpretation of humanitarian into
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: the skyline and with that she has a direct portal
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: into the inside of what makes us tick into the
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: interior opportune. There's like weird words. Like I was like,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: oh my God, but they're saying it.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Like they seem lucid, alert. They're not high when they're
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: saying it. It's literally like you're listening to a professor
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: tell something in college. Like I was like, what? And
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: they're pretty. And I'm like, oh my God, what are
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: these parents thinking? And you know what? She was pretty.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, she was pretty.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: She was pretty before the drugs kicked in. So she
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: had different Father gods. Yes. And the father gods knew
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: that they were, that they may not be the last one,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: that they might be replaced. So it was like, she
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: was the first, I feel like the first, like, you know,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Charlie Manson where like, you know, or cult leaders that would,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: you know, most cult leaders are men. They'd have many
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: different women.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: It's unusual to be a female cult leader.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: And this one guy that she gets that she meets online,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: who's like, you're going to, she's like, you're going to
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: come and be father God. And then the previous father
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: God is like, Enjoy the pussy. Like, I don't know,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: just laugh.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Well, also because they said, like, it's all about her.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Like, they weren't really getting satisfied.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: No, he even said, he goes, I was not attracted
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to her, but then, you know, I was told I'm
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Father God and this is Mother God. And so then
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I went for it. And then at one point, you know, yeah,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: I was sucked in and I, like, loved her. And also,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: but we were high every day.
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: But what were they living off? Oh, the money of people.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: The money, the donations. Oh. Okay, so then she starts,
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: then she's paralyzed from the waist down. How did she
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: get paralyzed? They had to carry her to the restaurant.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Because she's just like going into organ failure.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Because of eating the silver?
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: On top of tons of other things, I'm sure. And
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: she's been like high. All right.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: And how old is she? Like early 40s?
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: She was only 45 when she died.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: So she dies and they put her in a sleeping bag.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: They wrap her with Christmas lights. They put glitter on
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: her face. And they are moving the body place to place.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: And they're at a hotel. And the maintenance people start
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: complaining about the smell.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: So now they're like, we got to get out of here.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: So then they go to Mount Shasta. So when... The
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: guy that was the first member, whose name is Miguel Lamboy,
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: he gets access to all the finances, cleans out the accounts,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: tells the authorities they've got a dead body. They go
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: and they find her dead body. So the beginning of
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: the documentary, you can actually see the eyeballs were missing.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Why did they get rid of her eyeballs?
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Because they were decomposing.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: And so there were charges.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: And what about the kid that was there? They're like,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: we have one child here. What happened there?
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: No, there were two children that were there at this
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: time where the dead body was there. So there were
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: charges brought against them, but they were later dropped, which
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: is very strange. And then all those members are kind
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: of doing their own thing. The two women who were
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: really cute, they still do videos. A bunch of them
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: are like healers. And they still believe her. They believe
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: that she was communicating with Robin Williams.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: With the Intergalactic Federation of Light.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: It is insane.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: It's a crazy one. It's a big one. It's a
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: big one. It's a good one to watch. Yeah. Also,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: there's Bad Surgeon on Netflix. That's a three-parter. Yeah. And
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: that is a story I remember seeing on 2020 and everything.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: And that is about a attractive journalist who meets this
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: high-profile surgeon who promises her the world. They fall in love.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: They get engaged. But they have a long distance, almost
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: international relationship.
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: And they're planning on getting married. And he says, I'm
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: the private doctor to Obama and I'm the private doctor
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: to the Pope and the Pope is going to marry us.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: And she never, which, you know, it's interesting because being Catholic,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: you know, he goes, no, the Pope's going to marry us.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Now being Catholic, I, if I was to believe that
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: this guy was as powerful as he was, it would
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: not occur to me to go, wait a minute, have
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: popes ever married anybody? Are they allowed to marry somebody?
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: And then she realizes, like, no, that's never, again, they've
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: never married anybody and they're not allowed to marry to
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: anybody or something like that. And he just made it up.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: There are a number of things about that wedding too.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: I think Andrea Bocelli was supposed to perform. And then
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: she's trying to organize the wedding and people aren't sending
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: RSVPs back. I mean, to say the least, but also
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: he's this horrible surgeon.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: What kind of a surgeon was he?
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: So he had done this surgery where he would replace someone's... Tracheotomy? Yeah,
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: like their trach. And so he did do a couple
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: surgeries where the people ended up passing away from it,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: but they had all these other pre-existing issues. But there
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: was one person in particular where he took a donor
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: trach and he was bathing it in stem cells. So
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: medical journals started to pay attention and to write about it.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: And then he got this offer to be like a
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: visiting professor of this, you know, pretty acclaimed school. And
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: like most cons, he's sort of embellishing everything and using
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: that to get bigger opportunity upon a bigger opportunity, which
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: leads to him doing these surgeries where he was taking
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: plastic trachs and baiting it with the stem cells, which
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: there was no study that backed it up that it
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: actually worked. And those people all started to die. So
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: that was basically how he was revealed to be a con.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: And where is he now? Do we know?
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: There were charges brought. I think he served for maybe
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: two years, I believe.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: And then she also finds out that, you know, he
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: had like a whole nother family.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: He was married for 30 years. He wasn't even divorced
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: and he's planning a wedding.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Now, what do you think he gets out of the like?
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: He wasn't getting money from her. So what is the
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: love con do for someone like that? Just the, just
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: the ego of making someone be in love with you?
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: I think someone like that, he just, the stakes kept
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: getting higher. Like he gets a high off of it. Like, oh,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: now I'm a professor. Even like, he knows he's got
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: a rinky dink degree that he doesn't do accurate surgeries.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: And now he's like, married, but this woman believes that
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: you know, he's the greatest guy and like all the lies.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: It's like he gets a high off.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: You know, it's so interesting.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: I see that because my stepfather was a con and
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: I believe my dad's a con. I know cons. This
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: is what they get high on.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also think like when someone who's like,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: you know, the guy that said he was a Rockefeller,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: there's all the stories.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: I just think if you're in the right place.
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you're around the right people and you look right.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: And why would you question it? Why wouldn't you be like,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: I met this person? And I can only imagine the
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: way he lured her in, like, you know, of being
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: someone that's like, um oh my god you would love
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: shelly you guys would hit it off who's shelly oh
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: that's what i call michelle obama right would you ever
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: i know you're busy but like if they if they
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: want to hang out in hawaii would you would you
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: be down and you wouldn't be down yeah uh no
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: i i went down to hang out with like they
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: they like downplay it they like drop it yeah and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: then they like downplay it and then.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: You're just like yeah they're just like Or my friend
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: Oscar says he could make your dress if you're interested
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: in that.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Who's Oscar?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: Oscar de la Renta.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Oh. I mean, I was just going to go to.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: David's Bridal, but okay.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Awesome.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Tell Oscar I can do it.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Don't you think that Southern California is the perfect place
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: for a con?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: Because no one asks questions here. No, you and I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: ask questions.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm annoying to the point where I'm like,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: where did you go to school? Meanwhile, I'm Googling under
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: the table. But a lot of people don't ask questions here.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: I have been conned.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: And then you look back when you realize that you
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: dealt with a grifter, whatever. And you look back at
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: all the things. And I was like, hmm. You know,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: where are all these friends that this girl says she has?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Why have I only met the hairdresser over three years? Like,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: where is Leonardo DiCaprio? Where is this person? You know,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: where is, you know... Clint Eastwood's son that she's so
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: close to when we've hung out for three years and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: then you know I'm kind of like but and then
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I did you know eventually be like okay let's just
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: like move along and then and then they when they
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: know that you're on to them and they know that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: you're like distancing yourself that's when they're like boom I'm
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: gonna retire you're gonna pay for um Not believing me
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: or whatever. It's very, very interesting. But I have been conned.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think this is the perfect place for it.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Nepo baby. Here we go. Meg Ryan.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Snap back at anybody who called her actor son, Jack Quaid,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: a nepo baby. So look, a lot of people talk
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: about nepo babies. It's kind of an expression that's only
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: been around for a couple years. It's kind of cute.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Kind of not, I guess, if you are one. And
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: but I mean, so what? Like, I think these people
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: should just embrace it.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: I just think people get upset because there are people
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: that don't acknowledge that they got a leg up.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: And if you're somebody who has had zero connections and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: works really hard, it can be annoying when you hear
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: someone tell, you know, their story of their success and
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: they leave out the fact that they had a ton
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: of leg up. Right. That annoys people.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: If you're a great actor. I feel like Gwyneth Paltrow
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: did always share that. Always talked about her dad and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: her mom.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't a secret.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Just owned it. But here's the thing. If your parents
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: are hanging out with Martin Scorsese and all these people
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: as you're a little kid growing up and they're all
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: at your house having dinner and then you come running
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: down the stairs and now you're 17 and you're gorgeous
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: and you look just like your mom and they're like,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: what is Kate up to? And they're like, well, she
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: wants to go to NYU for acting. She just got
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: the lead in the play. And I'm like, and then
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: they're like, but wait a minute, I'm literally casting something
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: that she would be perfect for. Can she act? And
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: just like people who are, you know, children of mechanics,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: they kind of have a net. Their brain is like,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: they're naturally good at it. So I think a lot
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: of actors are, that are children of actors are actually
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: have an innate ability to act besides all the connections
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: and also having a mother read with you. Yeah. Like
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: it is just the thing, but you're right.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: You just have to acknowledge it and say, I was
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: inspired as a kid sitting at the kitchen table. Like
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: if you're Natalie Wood's daughter.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: And you're like, we would have Christmas parties and every
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: star you could imagine was there and I would study them.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: That, as soon as you acknowledge that, I think people
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: lay off you.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: But if you're acting like, I went to New York
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: City and I stayed in a one room, you know,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: this little apartment. And I used to knock on doors
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: and it's like, okay, enough with that.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Well, when I was at Kathy's party, we were talking
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: and Kathy was like so funny. And she was like,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: she goes, you know, Don Rickles used to say at everything.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: She's like, Don Rickles used to hang out. Like this
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: is old. Of course, Kathy Hilton hung out with, you know,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Don Rickles. Of course she did. Okay. Anyway. And I
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: want to talk about, wait, so here I am. Here's
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: my NEPO baby. Here is Brandon. My triumphant return to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: the runway happened last night, yesterday, at the Hyatt Regency
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: for Crespi High School, the All-Board Catholic High School. Last
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: time I modeled in a fashion show, like a real
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: fashion show, which wasn't real fun, was the Louisville one,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: which is the all-girl high school, when I was, you know,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: not even 18. I was 17 when I did that.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: And it was a big deal. And so I said
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: to him, I go, there's like three things I care
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: about you doing at this high school. One is that
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: you go on Kairos, which is a three-day religious retreat.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: The next is that we do this modeling thing. And
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the third is at the Mother's Day Mass that you say,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I want to speak about my mom after.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, when did they do that?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Mother's Day.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: But when you're a senior. When you're a senior, though.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Go to this mass, and only like a handful of
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: boys do it. But I've gone in previous years, and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I've cried, and I've been like, you have got, tell
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: me that you'll do this.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Wait, are you going to write the speech for him?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: No, I'm absolutely not going to write the speech.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: He's a good writer. He's going to do it.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: He's a good writer.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: I would write the speech.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Anyway, so we modeled the boys wore tuxes. And suits.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: And I found a great dress.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: It's a little weird to see him. Like, he looks
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: old to me.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I know. And here we are backstage.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: He was like a little kid three minutes ago.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: We had so much fun. And his cousins came.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: That's sweet.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: And his sister, Mackenzie, and my sister came. And then
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I had a couple girlfriends there. And they were all...
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: We had a great table at the end of the runway.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: And they were, like, hyping him up. And he was
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: really hamming it up. So... You know, look, when he
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: becomes a top model. There you go. He's going to
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: have to say, I got my start because my mom's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: a podcaster. Yep. And she talked about it on Juicy Scoop. Yeah.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: And she made sure that I signed up to do
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: the modeling.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: And it forever changed my life.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: It forever changed my life. Now, this is really fun,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: young moms. If you're ever at a school or you
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: want to do something like this.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's a Southern California thing.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think just one person starts it
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: and then it's a tradition. And we have like the shopping.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: So like the vendors came, you know, so it was
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: like shopping before. I think they make some money off
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: of it. Who knows how much. But it is a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: really fun thing to do for girls too. Girls, boys, co-ed, whatever.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Have a little modeling show with their parent. At least
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: the seniors can model with their parent, the other kids, whatever.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's so fun. It is a lot of
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: work for the people that put it together. I just
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: showed up and then gave my thoughts afterwards, though I'm
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: not volunteering to ever help. So I'm that mother you hate.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: But I did participate.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: I don't think I could have my kids. I don't
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: think my kids would do it. I think my son would,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: but my daughters would be like, you're embarrassing.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Please do not do that.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: There were other moms.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: That were there that was like, I couldn't get my
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: kid to do it.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: I go, that's totally fine.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Your kid is playing football. It doesn't matter. This is
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: something that I said, would you do it? And he said, yes.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: And then we really hammed it up. And then we
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: closed the show, and we did a little bow at
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: the end. I was like, listen, we can do what
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: we want. We're closing the show. So that was really fun.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Moving on. Okay, a little more about Housewives of Beverly
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Hills before we end this. How are you feeling about
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: the season? Give me your thoughts of where we're at.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: What about Denise Richards? Oh, my God.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: What was happening?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: What was happening?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: Like that?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know. Well, listen, guys.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Do you think they drove her around a couple times
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: around the block before?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: She seemed high buzzed, whatever, when she got out of
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: the van with or the car with Camille. Because I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: think she was already like, should we go to ran
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: and out?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: I feel like she was in that car a long
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: time and then like overshot it.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: I think, yes. I think they came from Malibu. Yes.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: To Encino. That's a solid hour.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: That's a solid hour.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: And I think they may have provided alcohol. Maybe not.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe they brought it. Yeah. And they were like, go ahead.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: You know? And she's nervous.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: She was probably nervous.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Probably nervous. And when people are nervous, they drink more
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: and you're going to be on camera and you're nervous
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: about seeing people that you haven't seen. Yeah. And so
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: I think she was just really buzzed. I just think
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: she had way too much Casamigos. What's the... Casamigos. No,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: but she likes the one that's like the.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: The Blanco?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: No, she likes the darker one. What's it called? Aneo?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: No, there's... I'll show the A. She always says that. Casamigos,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: da-da-da-da on the rocks.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: And.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: But when it was pretty... Erica was pretty good because
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: she's like, let's, you know, show Erica. Come on. We're
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: grown-ass adults. Are we going to do this? And I mean,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I cannot wait for this week of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: like what the fuck happened. And then, yeah, then Kyle's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: there and then they have the pot thing. And of course, Kyle,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: you know, reveals to Morgan like, well, everyone's giving me
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: shit for not drinking, but we're having like this, you know,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: TCH dinner or whatever it is. And then Morgan's like, well,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: if you don't want to partake, why don't you just
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: not partake? Why do you have to do it? And
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: she's like, you think?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Do you know who?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: She's all giddy.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: Do you know who Leather Tuscadero was from Vampire?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, we talked about this.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: She looks just like her.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: From Happy Days.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: She really does.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Morgan Wade is Leather Tuscadero.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: Which is Suzy Quatro on Stumbling In, the 70s duet star.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's right.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: She looks just like her.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: She kind of does.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: And so they get another, she gets a tattoo and
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are questioning sequence of events. Now
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: we know that on reality show, sometimes they have to
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: redo a scene. So she comes home apparently from getting,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: from hanging with her friend Morgan, where she's absolutely giddy.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Like the memes that are like, I just want someone
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: to look at me the way Kyle looks at Morgan.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Like that's my goal. And she gets this little star
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: thing on her pelvic area. And she comes home to Mo,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: and he's like, love beam. What did you do? And
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: she pulls it down and shows it. And I remember thinking,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: wait a minute. Now, I've never had a tattoo.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: Me neither.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: But aren't you supposed to have the lotion and the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: saran wrap on it for like a day?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: For a little bit, yeah.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: And it was dry as a bone and out there. Yes.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Do I think she put on the Gucci sweater and,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: you know, redid this scene for when Mo came home
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: for dramatic effect to look like I just left my friend. Maybe.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: And now I'm annoyed with my husband who's like, well,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: I hope I get to see that tattoo sometime. And
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, whatever.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: Something that I think people also forget. Remember last year or,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: you know, a year from the time that this was filmed?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: Remember her best friend? died by suicide?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, she's talking about that on social media.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: I think that has a lot to do too with her.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Annoyance with Mo not being sensitive. That's what people are saying.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: There's people putting this out so it's not me so
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I can't recall who did it but I saw it
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: online where they're like I really think that that affected
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: her a lot and because she says she suffers from
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: anxiety and stuff and this was her dear friend who
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: died by suicide and so she was like People think
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: that maybe he just wasn't as sensitive.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: Think of it like someone like Liz.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: They're the witness to your whole life.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: As her best friend was.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: And the loss of that is massive. And if your
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: partner is kind of blowing, maybe he's like high and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: he's all about his reality show.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: That could be the last straw. Like, you know what?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: Of all the things that I've done to support you,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: what I really need is for you to be here now.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: And I also think the added element of like, Morgan's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: in her life. She's an outsider.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: You know, all the people in Kyle's life maybe have
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: heard all the stories about her sister and her husband.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: And it's kind of great when someone new has a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: new perspective where they're like, wait, let's go back to that.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: What happened with your sister?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Like you put up with that? And also someone from
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: a different generation.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Because a different generation, like we're, you know, she and I,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Kyle and I are Gen X. Morgan is technically Gen Z. Yes.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: And they really do have a different perspective on life. They're,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, in lots of ways, they have such a
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: better perspective. And they're, I believe they're nicer. Like Gen X,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: we are the same bitchy girls everywhere. that we were
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: when Heather's, the movie was written. We are exactly like,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: if you were that, it's very rare. You don't really mature.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: We're still like, look at that girl. Like, Oh, it's
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: a little bit like that, which is why I think
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: housewives and everything is the way it is. And why
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I think it's sort of even more fascinating when someone
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: younger starts watching it. Cause they're like, Oh my God.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: And like, I just feel like we're just exactly the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: same as we, which isn't a great thing to say.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Well, it's because the system that we were all raised in.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: And so if you have a younger perspective, it's somebody
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: fresh who's like, I cannot believe you went through that.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: You're going to be like, oh my God, I want
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: to be around you even more.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: So I think that that's another added element that, you know,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: sometimes people kind of forget about too.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thoroughly enjoying it. What do you think of
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: the new girl? She's coming in hot.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: She's coming in a little hot.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a little bit. It's a lot. Yeah, I
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: don't know her name.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: I like someone to just kind of ease in.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like she's like, I got to make my, I
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: got to be obnoxious and make my mark.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: I don't like this new trend of like just throwing
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: someone in and we're not learning about their personal story.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just a friend of Kyle's.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: They just show up. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, what?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: And then Garcelle had a great moment in her interviews
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: where she was like, the only time I think about
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: jewelry is that Dorit still had hers after the robbery.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: By the way, what do you think happens behind the cameras?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: Are people high-fiving? Does someone close the door and just
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: high-five a wall? Are they like, we got it?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know people that have worked on those
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: day-long things. They don't go to their house, in case
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: you didn't know. They go to a studio and they
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: put the backdrop of your house. So you're all at
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: the studio, timed, probably alone.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: Let's wrap this up. I got stuff to do.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: So that other people don't see you. But they can
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: be really, really tedious, really, really long. And I think
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: they ask you lots of questions, but I also think
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: they help and produce you.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: But I think this was all Garcelle.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: It was good.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: And, well, we'll see. What jewelry do you have? And
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: how is it that they didn't take your ring? Had
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: you walked to the closet and gathered up the bags
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: in a bag sheet or comforter and all this stuff,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: did you just take your diamonds and go like this?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Maybe she did. I don't know.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe she did. Maybe the minute they came in, she
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: managed to go like this and just throw it on
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: the ground or something. But I would think if there
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: was an element of that story and I was like,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: I woke up and there were people in my room,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: you know, and they're like, get on the ground. And
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: I managed to go like this and throw it on
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: the ground in the dark, showed him everything else. That
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: would be the story I would be telling on camera
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: and be telling everybody when I'm at Extra or, you know,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Access Hollywood. I would be like, so the one thing
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: I managed to save was my wedding ring.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: I was blessed and everything. And I turned it around
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: or I threw it on the ground or they or
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: got it was so weird they didn't even ask about it. Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Or I put it, I always put it in my nightstand.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: They only went to the closet.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: I think everyone's been afraid to ask questions because they
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: don't want to upset her. But I think that's the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: great thing about some of these confessionals is that it
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: does start to pull out questions.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Which can make other scenes later so full.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: And, you know, providing, you know, everything Greete has told
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: us is 100% true. And she was really scared for
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: her life and her children's life and everything. which is
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: fucking horrific. So if anybody was questioning my truth, now
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: some people say, ignore these people, ignore, just like people
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: say to me, ignore, don't give them any light. I
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'd want to be like, I'd be like Garcelle,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: like especially the region. What jewelry are you talking about?
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Specifically that you remember me having before the surgery, before the.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: Robbery.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: The robbery and after.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Which ones? And if you can't name them, then you
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: were just being a bitch. And then she would go,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: it's your wedding ring. And then I could say, as Dorit, okay,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: I'm really glad you asked that. He just never asked.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: See, if I were Dorit, I wouldn't even go to
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: that place. I would go.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: What would you go?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: For all of you that are having questions with regard
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: to the robbery, this is what happened. You get in
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: front of it.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Don't wait for someone else, you know, a year and
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: a half down the line to float a question like that.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: But what if, what if Garcelle said that and there
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: isn't a specific ring or anything, she just saw that
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: she had jewelry after, which could be fake, which could
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: be stuff that was somewhere else. And, you know, and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: never bothered to ask Dorit, like, wait, how did you
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: get away with keeping your watch in your ring when
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: they're robbed? And then she could have said, you know what?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Or I put it in a drawer and we went
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: only to the safe and to the da, da, da, da.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: And then they were gone. Thank God. Or I threw,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I threw it to the ground when they weren't looking
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: or I never had it on or whatever.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: It's in a different, like, by the way, this is
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: all fair game.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: This happened to you and me. Maybe we wouldn't be
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: asking all these questions.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: It's fair game when you're on a, on a television
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: show and it's covered on the show. So yes, they
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: have to address it at the reunion if they don't
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: Before that.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Um, This is kind of juicy. Pretty Woman.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: The real story of Pretty Woman. I didn't know this,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: so you've got to tell me.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: The real script, she just revealed it because she's got
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: a Netflix show coming out that looks really juicy, like
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: The End of the World or something.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: It looks good. Anyway, she said it was going to
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: be a much darker film called 3,000, which was the
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: price of Vivian to spend the night with Edward. Well,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: that was what she got for the week. By the way,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: I saw someone talk about Pretty Woman saying, why will
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: no one bring up the fact that she was getting
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: $ 100 an hour, $ 300 for the night, and then he goes,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: I'll give you $ 3, 000 for the week, which if you
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: do the math, takes her down to $ 21 an hour. Oh,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: my Lord.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Anyway, so this said, Vivian was a drug addict and
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: the movie ended with the original script with him leaving
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: her in a side street, throwing the money at her
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: and driving away. And I got the part in that
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: movie and I felt really proud. But when the production
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: company folded and the film disappeared, I was crushed. But
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: then Disney picked it up, which seemed unlikely. And then
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: they made it funny. And there was one producer that
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: stayed with the script and then it went to Disney.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: And I went, went to Disney. Are they going to
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: animate it? How is this a Disney movie? So anyway,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: it turned, that's where they made it lighter and cute.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: But it still is like, well, I would talk about it.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Like we all watched it in the nineties and because
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: she got to go shopping, we all were like, it
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: became our favorite movie. But we have to remember that
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: she and the roommate would, Wake up at eight, at
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: nine at night and put on the boots with the
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: zipper and have to go suck dirty dicks that they
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: met with guys in the car. Even though she was gorgeous. Like,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: you don't want to think about that, but that's what
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: she was doing. And she gave him a BJ the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: first night at the hotel. Like she got all prepared.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: She put down her pillow. Like she did it.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: And.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, she was a street hooker. The movie makes
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: no sense at all, but it's classic. It's a classic
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: and it made her the star. I love it. All right, Kate,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: tell them what's coming up on your show. Okay.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: Reality Life with Kate Casey podcast. Everywhere we listen to podcasts.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: Every Monday, I tell you what to watch in reality
• 1:20:47
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• 1:20:50
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• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: documentary producers and directors and reality show producers. And so
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: this week I'm interviewing Bettina Alexander. She is the woman
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: who dated the bad surgeon. Oh, awesome.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: So we're going to go into that. And I'm covering
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: Murder in Boston, which is a great docuseries on HBO
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: about a pregnant woman that was killed by her husband
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: for insurance money. But he pretended there was an assailant
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: and it caused race relations in Boston.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: What year was that?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: Um, it was like 20 years ago.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Yeah. So it's a good story. Yeah.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: Um, you're going to like that one. Um, I'm covering
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: the golden bachelor finale, Paris in love season two. Um,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: I've got a bunch of great interviews and my Saturday
• 1:21:35
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• 1:21:38
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• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: more about your personal story as well.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Um, but also people need to go to Kate Casey
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: dot sub stack.com because I put out that list of
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: what to watch every week. So it's a great guide.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: I know that sometimes you're like, okay, what do I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: watch this week?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, I ask you, yeah.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: All the time.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I follow you too, so I see what you post.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's great stuff this week.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: She posts the list too, yeah.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: I think your kids might actually like too. There's a
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: World War II docuseries on Netflix that's coming up too.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: There's stuff for everybody. Some great sports ones too. Coach
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: Prime on Amazon Prime. You might like that show too.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: So go to katecasey.substock.com to get my must-watch list and
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: then new episodes all week long.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Great. Thanks, girl.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for coming.
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