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- 0:07Speaker 1: We will start with the Super Bowl MVP who learned
- 0:11Speaker 1: his faith yesterday.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Now we've known some time that Ken Walk would.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Almost certainly be free, not be transition tag, not be
- 0:17Speaker 1: franchise tag. That was a reality yesterday. Not saying the
- 0:20Speaker 1: seatofs don't want to bring it back. They do, but
- 0:23Speaker 1: seems to be a number lower than the one year tag.
- 0:26Speaker 1: They are going to continue to try to work toward
- 0:29Speaker 1: a deal with Walker is free, no doubt he is
- 0:31Speaker 1: going to have a big market in a resurgent running
- 0:34Speaker 1: back group.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Daniel Jones a different situation for the Indianapolis Colts.
- 0:39Speaker 1: He did in fact get the transition tag, almost thirty
- 0:42Speaker 1: eight million dollars fully guaranteed, the first time it's nineteen
- 0:45Speaker 1: ninety six that a quarterback got the transition tag. The
- 0:48Speaker 1: New York Jets made a similar decision for Bresee.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Hall, their star running back.
- 0:52Speaker 1: He gets not the transition tag like a lot of
- 0:55Speaker 1: people thought, but the franchise tag.
- 0:57Speaker 2: And then for the Cincinnati Bengals.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Their siding with Tree Handrick it officially ended yesterday.
- 1:02Speaker 2: He is now free. One of the top pass rushers on.
- 1:04Speaker 3: The Morning.
- 1:09Speaker 4: And fl Networks Ian Rapaport with the full breakdown of
- 1:13Speaker 4: yesterday's franchise tag deadline doings and Yes. For us, the
- 1:17Speaker 4: story is the ken Walker wasn't.
- 1:19Speaker 5: Tagged, but we expected that. We'll talk to our Seahawks.
- 1:22Speaker 4: Insider Greg Bell about that and many other things coming
- 1:25Speaker 4: up here in a matter of about a minute.
- 1:26Speaker 5: And a half. So we do that every day at
- 1:29Speaker 5: seven oh five. Good morning. It is Chuck, Buck and
- 1:31Speaker 5: Ashley here on a hump day.
- 1:33Speaker 4: Yes, we've got a lot to discuss today, so let's
- 1:36Speaker 4: rip through first and foremost your frost brewed cors like chews,
- 1:39Speaker 4: chill headlines, Headline number one, biggest story of the day.
- 1:42Speaker 4: I have a new breakfast bar I'm trying out this morning,
- 1:45Speaker 4: and it's a nightmare for talk show hosts.
- 1:47Speaker 5: Chia seeds. There's chia seeds everywhere. They're stuck in my teeth.
- 1:51Speaker 5: Can't get them out of my mouth.
- 1:52Speaker 6: Oh no, oh no, yeah, I don't know chias seeds
- 1:55Speaker 6: were bad.
- 1:56Speaker 5: But no, they're not bad. They just they're bad for
- 1:58Speaker 5: talking after eating. They're getting your teeth.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, let's take a look at your headlines. We
- 2:04Speaker 4: will start with the franchise tag. Yes, Breese Hall, George
- 2:08Speaker 4: Pickens and Daniel Jones along with Kyle Pitts from previously.
- 2:12Speaker 4: We're all tagged in the process. Ken Walker and Trey
- 2:15Speaker 4: Hendrickson were not. The NFL free agency tampering period will
- 2:21Speaker 4: begin on Monday, so we are just four days away
- 2:23Speaker 4: from Tamperfest twenty twenty six. Kyler Murray will be cut
- 2:27Speaker 4: next week that according to reports, so no longer the
- 2:30Speaker 4: quarterback of your Arizona Cardinals out there. Dre Dolman retired
- 2:35Speaker 4: at age twenty seven from the Chicago Bears. That's the
- 2:38Speaker 4: third Stanford Cardinal by my recollection that has done that
- 2:41Speaker 4: in a decade. Just retired four or five years into
- 2:45Speaker 4: his NFL career for no other reason but trying to
- 2:49Speaker 4: preserve his health. NHL trading deadline is coming up on Friday.
- 2:54Speaker 4: Kraken and Blues are in action tonight at seven o'clock.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Al Kiniski will join us today at nine thirty. Hoops,
- 3:00Speaker 4: you dub back in action tonight at home against USC
- 3:03Speaker 4: seven to three. Seven point thirty is the start time
- 3:05Speaker 4: there and the WBC does get underway. I mean it's
- 3:09Speaker 4: Australia and TYPEI they're starting now. The US will play
- 3:13Speaker 4: another tune up game against the Colorado Rockies today at
- 3:15Speaker 4: three o'clock. Meanwhile, the Mariners play this evening at six
- 3:18Speaker 4: o'clock against the San Francisco Giants and Cactus League action.
- 3:23Speaker 4: And don't forget that the GEESA State Tournament Finals will
- 3:27Speaker 4: be held this weekend, so make sure you get to
- 3:29Speaker 4: Tacoma take in some basketball.
- 3:31Speaker 5: How much fun is that?
- 3:33Speaker 4: I mean, I grew up on high school basketball for
- 3:35Speaker 4: goodness sake.
- 3:36Speaker 5: And the state tournament, Oh, that was like.
- 3:38Speaker 4: Sports heaven for an eight year old from southwestern Illinois.
- 3:42Speaker 4: All right, let's talk some football with our Seahawks insider
- 3:45Speaker 4: Greg Bell.
- 3:45Speaker 7: With the bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
- 3:49Speaker 7: time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought to
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- 4:05Speaker 7: Bell with Chuck and Bud.
- 4:08Speaker 8: Good morning, Greg, Good morning.
- 4:10Speaker 5: You played in the state finals, didn't you? In football?
- 4:13Speaker 8: Twice in Ohio Stadium. Get thirty two thousand people in there,
- 4:17Speaker 8: wild wow Wow. With the horseshoe. It was cool. Mike
- 4:22Speaker 8: Ben and I are gonna be doing the play by
- 4:23Speaker 8: player of the three A State semifinals on Friday on
- 4:26Speaker 8: the nine fifty am. So Mike's doing the first game
- 4:29Speaker 8: and I'm doing the second game.
- 4:31Speaker 4: Nice, very good linebacker, right, Greg Bell is a linebacker.
- 4:35Speaker 8: Defensive and oh craprecker, I think than fast enough.
- 4:40Speaker 6: A crap wrecker, kind of like Aaron Donald.
- 4:44Speaker 8: Quite Aaron do I was too slow to be a linebacker,
- 4:47Speaker 8: So that suck me at the sense of.
- 4:49Speaker 4: Then, Oh, okay, well we're going to have to race.
- 4:51Speaker 4: I think now that you said, let's just see where
- 4:53Speaker 4: we stand for the three of us. I don't know
- 4:55Speaker 4: if I can beat you. I'm just want to see
- 4:56Speaker 4: where we stand.
- 4:58Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 4:58Speaker 8: You going for straight line distance? Yeah there a straight
- 5:02Speaker 8: line speed, straight line forty year death speeds is very
- 5:11Speaker 8: vital to their game. I know.
- 5:13Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's talk about ken Walker first and foremost.
- 5:17Speaker 4: He was not tagged yesterday. That's no surprise.
- 5:19Speaker 6: Wait what what that is?
- 5:22Speaker 8: We all said we were going to tag.
- 5:24Speaker 4: What no surprise to any of us that have discussed it.
- 5:30Speaker 4: But there was a suggestion that this means ken Walker
- 5:34Speaker 4: is going to enter free agency. So uh, I would
- 5:38Speaker 4: ask you, will the Seahawks and Ken Walker be able
- 5:41Speaker 4: to pull off a deal before Monday hits.
- 5:44Speaker 8: Well, it's not impossible, and no one knows him better
- 5:47Speaker 8: than they do, and he doesn't know any team better
- 5:50Speaker 8: than the Seahawks obviously, so there's a They're not starting
- 5:53Speaker 8: from zero like he would be with another team. But
- 5:56Speaker 8: we talked about this last week, maybe his honey and
- 5:58Speaker 8: show last week when the agents are in Indianapolis. Don't
- 6:04Speaker 8: think that the agents only talk to the teams that
- 6:06Speaker 8: the guys had been playing for in the last four years.
- 6:10Speaker 8: I know there's tampering rules, but there's nothing to stop
- 6:13Speaker 8: David Canter and his staff and walking around the combine
- 6:16Speaker 8: and asking the Chiefs or the Broncos or the Eagles,
- 6:18Speaker 8: or the Patriots or the Giants, what would it take
- 6:21Speaker 8: the what would you sign my client for? Just saying hypothetically.
- 6:27Speaker 8: So this was another step yesterday toward free agency, but
- 6:32Speaker 8: it was when we knew was coming. They were never
- 6:34Speaker 8: going to do this. It's not how he does business.
- 6:37Speaker 8: We've talked about how it's only really been one time
- 6:40Speaker 8: in sixteen years, and that was his very first months
- 6:42Speaker 8: doing it with Lyndamar. And yeah, the other one was
- 6:44Speaker 8: signing trade with Frank Clark. But it doesn't mean automatically.
- 6:50Speaker 8: There are some fans who think, Okay, this means automatically
- 6:53Speaker 8: there's no way down Seahawks can sign them. That's not true.
- 6:56Speaker 8: They have. The hours are dwindling, but they have between
- 7:00Speaker 8: now and essentially Monday. They have technically to Wednesday, when
- 7:05Speaker 8: Wednesday is the opening of the league year, and that's
- 7:08Speaker 8: when deals can officially be named. But we all know
- 7:11Speaker 8: deals get done on starting on Monday, agreed to and
- 7:15Speaker 8: then announced on Wednesday. Once we get the Mondays, when
- 7:19Speaker 8: he's going to have the market open for him, and
- 7:21Speaker 8: he's going to get multiple suitors, and he is by
- 7:24Speaker 8: far the most attractive running back free agent, and he's
- 7:27Speaker 8: still is we've mentioned only twenty five years old, and
- 7:30Speaker 8: the fact he's still only twenty five I think it's
- 7:32Speaker 8: going to drive his price up here, and that if
- 7:36Speaker 8: the price is higher than the tag number of fourteen
- 7:38Speaker 8: point five million, for sure he's gone, or even if
- 7:41Speaker 8: it's close to it, because if the Seahawks are willing
- 7:44Speaker 8: to offer him close to fourteen and a half million,
- 7:46Speaker 8: they just would have tagged them, even though they never
- 7:48Speaker 8: rarely do that so the Seahawks are obviously offering him
- 7:51Speaker 8: something below fourteen million a year, or else they would
- 7:55Speaker 8: have franchise tag him. So if he gets something approaching
- 7:59Speaker 8: fourteen and the open market, which I think he will,
- 8:01Speaker 8: he's gone. But if they can entice him to sign
- 8:05Speaker 8: before he gets to developing market where the bidding will
- 8:07Speaker 8: raise his price, then they have a chance. We've talked
- 8:11Speaker 8: about the player's side of this, and why would once
- 8:13Speaker 8: you get to this far, the eleventh and three fourth
- 8:15Speaker 8: hour of your first time ever in free agency, you're
- 8:18Speaker 8: probably going to go shop.
- 8:20Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he's probably going to go shop. I mean,
- 8:23Speaker 6: you know him better than most people do, just having
- 8:26Speaker 6: covered him and talked to him personally. I mean, is
- 8:28Speaker 6: there any part of him that you that you know
- 8:32Speaker 6: that you would think if it's something where you're you're
- 8:35Speaker 6: kind of in the same ballpark, right, I mean, these
- 8:37Speaker 6: guys got to go make their money, especially running backs
- 8:39Speaker 6: as you know, injury prone as that position Lens tends
- 8:43Speaker 6: to be. But I mean, is there any part of
- 8:46Speaker 6: him that you and you know in him personally that
- 8:48Speaker 6: you think maybe if it was fourteen million somewhere else
- 8:51Speaker 6: and the Seahawks were like now, we're thinking thirteen that
- 8:54Speaker 6: he would possibly want to stick around just because of
- 8:57Speaker 6: you know, you're a champion and you could possibly, you know,
- 8:59Speaker 6: create a leg I can see here in Seattle versus
- 9:01Speaker 6: going and chasing that little extra money.
- 9:03Speaker 8: Yes, I do, and I think he wants to stay.
- 9:06Speaker 8: But I also know this, Bucky. He was not thrilled
- 9:10Speaker 8: with how they used him last season. He was in
- 9:13Speaker 8: a job shared during a contract year. Think about that.
- 9:18Speaker 8: When you're trying to audition yourself for the max possible
- 9:22Speaker 8: value deal you can get, you're getting taken off the
- 9:25Speaker 8: field once the ball gets inside the twenty yard line.
- 9:27Speaker 8: I mean, Zach Charbonay had twelve touchdowns last year. He
- 9:31Speaker 8: played sharbone, did a higher percentage of snaps than did
- 9:36Speaker 8: Kenneth Walker until he got hurt. It was like forty
- 9:38Speaker 8: six to forty two percentage of snaps for Charbonay most
- 9:43Speaker 8: of the season. So here's Walker saying, ha, this is
- 9:46Speaker 8: my year. I'm finally healthy through this foot and ankle injury.
- 9:50Speaker 8: My goal is to play in every one of the
- 9:52Speaker 8: seventeen games so I could show the league that I'm
- 9:54Speaker 8: durable and I could make the most money I can.
- 9:56Speaker 8: And as he's ready to do that. They say, well,
- 9:59Speaker 8: we're gonna your reps and you're going to get fewer
- 10:01Speaker 8: than fifty percent of the carries in our offense. In fact,
- 10:04Speaker 8: you're going to run between the twenties and when we
- 10:06Speaker 8: get to the twenty you're coming off. You could see
- 10:10Speaker 8: from the press box the steam coming out of his ears.
- 10:12Speaker 8: At times he was coming onto the sideline and the
- 10:14Speaker 8: ball get into the red zone. He was not thrilled
- 10:18Speaker 8: with that, and that's in the back of his mind.
- 10:22Speaker 8: Hey guys, well you did me. I'm not sure how
- 10:26Speaker 8: you did me. Here my contract year if I want
- 10:28Speaker 8: to do that again. I didn't appreciate that. This is
- 10:30Speaker 8: a very selfish perspective. But we're in a selfish time
- 10:33Speaker 8: of year. He trying to make the most money he can.
- 10:35Speaker 8: Now now, he played good soldier. He didn't rock the boat.
- 10:38Speaker 8: He said he was all for it during the season.
- 10:40Speaker 8: But I can tell you with the surety that that
- 10:43Speaker 8: was not how he wanted his contract year to go to.
- 10:45Speaker 8: Being a job share, Greg, We're we're about to find
- 10:48Speaker 8: out how much the effect of that is.
- 10:49Speaker 5: Yeah, Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks.
- 10:51Speaker 4: Inside, of course, a full coverage of the Seahawks twenty
- 10:54Speaker 4: four to seven there at the News Tribune dot com
- 10:55Speaker 4: and you can follow him on x at g Bell.
- 10:57Speaker 4: Seattle joins us year nearly every day at seven oh
- 11:01Speaker 4: five to update us on everything that he is hearing
- 11:04Speaker 4: in regards to the Seattle Seahawks. The other big name
- 11:07Speaker 4: that was mentioned yesterday alongside Ken Walker all day long
- 11:11Speaker 4: in NFL coverage was Trey Hendrickson. Finally, the Cincinnati Bengals
- 11:15Speaker 4: just accepted he doesn't want to be here. We're not
- 11:18Speaker 4: going to go through all of this drama again, and
- 11:20Speaker 4: so they let him go. I mean there's talk we
- 11:23Speaker 4: talked about it yesterday of getting Max Crosby here in
- 11:26Speaker 4: a trade that the Seahawks are interested. They've got cap space.
- 11:31Speaker 4: I mean, you can get a Hendrickson who did not
- 11:34Speaker 4: have a great year last year, but his ear removed
- 11:37Speaker 4: from being an NFL sack leader. You could get him
- 11:40Speaker 4: without giving up trade compensation. How much interest do you
- 11:42Speaker 4: think the Seahawks have in adding a Trey Hendrickson if
- 11:45Speaker 4: they were interested in adding Max Crosby.
- 11:48Speaker 8: Yeah, John Schnyder's gonna call and he's going to see
- 11:51Speaker 8: what the price is going to be. The thing that
- 11:53Speaker 8: would make it more checkive than trading for sake Crosby
- 11:56Speaker 8: is as you mentioned, you wouldn't have to give up anything,
- 11:58Speaker 8: and they don't have a lot of draft capital, So
- 12:00Speaker 8: if you've traded for Henrickson or Crosby, it won't be
- 12:03Speaker 8: Hendrickson now that he's free agent. But if you say
- 12:05Speaker 8: it for Crosby, you're going to have to lose a starter.
- 12:08Speaker 8: I mean, you don't have the draft capital to get
- 12:10Speaker 8: a guy like that, so there would be less of
- 12:14Speaker 8: an upfront cost to Hendrickson. And if you can get
- 12:16Speaker 8: a multi year deal, the hammered out with them, but
- 12:19Speaker 8: you would or else why would he sign a one
- 12:20Speaker 8: year deal in free agency? So you get a multi
- 12:23Speaker 8: year deal done, then you can structure it the way
- 12:25Speaker 8: the Seahawks always do, which is guaranteed money upfront and
- 12:28Speaker 8: the salary cap money spread and bonuses do later and
- 12:33Speaker 8: all of that and you opportunity to restructure down the road.
- 12:37Speaker 8: That's a much more attractive way to do it than
- 12:39Speaker 8: to inherit somebody else's contract. That Obviously, in the carser case,
- 12:44Speaker 8: the Raiders may be want to get rid of so yes,
- 12:48Speaker 8: but the Seahawks won't be the only one calling about
- 12:52Speaker 8: Terry Henderson and that's why his prices skyrocket too. And
- 12:55Speaker 8: we know from experience that John Schneider is relatively conservative
- 12:59Speaker 8: and free agency. He doesn't join the bidding Frey and
- 13:02Speaker 8: the most popular first wave free agents. And I've talked
- 13:06Speaker 8: about the one time I can think of in the
- 13:08Speaker 8: last decade he did Draymond Jones blew up in his
- 13:11Speaker 8: face and he was months into that deal going why
- 13:14Speaker 8: did I pay fifty one million dollars for this guy?
- 13:17Speaker 8: So chances are no, but he will definitely make a call.
- 13:22Speaker 8: There is a Kevin Thibodeau is rumored to be on
- 13:26Speaker 8: the shopping block and the Giants are shopping him. But Thibodeau,
- 13:30Speaker 8: to me, while young, twenty five, very athletic, huge a
- 13:33Speaker 8: form of Oregon duck, he represents a huge risk. He's
- 13:37Speaker 8: in the last year of his contract, which the Seahawks
- 13:39Speaker 8: would not want to take on. The Giants gave him
- 13:43Speaker 8: a fifty year option for fourteen and a half million.
- 13:45Speaker 8: That's a first round pick. So he's playing this year
- 13:49Speaker 8: on a fifty year option. And most importantly, he's been
- 13:51Speaker 8: on injured reserve in each of the last three years.
- 13:54Speaker 8: Why it sounds to me that's and you're inheriting somebody
- 13:56Speaker 8: else's problem for fourteen and a half million dollars. So
- 13:59Speaker 8: I don't think he would go that route either. He's
- 14:03Speaker 8: much more conservative this time next week, everyone's going to
- 14:07Speaker 8: be ticked off that Seahawks are letting everybody go by
- 14:10Speaker 8: the boards and the top guys are signing elsewhere and
- 14:12Speaker 8: they lost Walker. What the hell's John Snyder doing? I
- 14:16Speaker 8: will say this, Josh Schneider is the only general manager
- 14:19Speaker 8: to will win two Super Bowls with two different regimes,
- 14:22Speaker 8: two different head coaches, two different players, two different quarterbacks.
- 14:25Speaker 8: The guy might know what he's doing, if there's ever
- 14:27Speaker 8: a chance, if ever i's ever a time to say, Okay,
- 14:31Speaker 8: we're just going to trust that he might know what
- 14:33Speaker 8: he's doing. He has a plan. Maybe it's right after
- 14:35Speaker 8: he won his second Super Bowl. I don't think we
- 14:38Speaker 8: need to be ripping John Schneider if he loses Kenneth
- 14:42Speaker 8: Walker and doesn't sign Trey Anderson.
- 14:44Speaker 6: Yeah, yesterday we talked about Rashid Shaheed and you kind
- 14:48Speaker 6: of mentioning that, do you think that's a priority. Later
- 14:50Speaker 6: on in our show, Chuck kind of ran us through
- 14:52Speaker 6: a little bit of a drill where we were looking
- 14:55Speaker 6: at some other wide receivers possible, and there's some guys
- 14:57Speaker 6: out there that are projected to be less expensive than
- 15:01Speaker 6: Rashid Shahed. I mean, if if his bow track number
- 15:04Speaker 6: is close where he's up there, around fourteen million dollars, would.
- 15:08Speaker 8: You I just don't see I don't see it.
- 15:10Speaker 6: I don't see it either. And yet those same numbers
- 15:13Speaker 6: for other receivers. There's guys that you know possibly could
- 15:17Speaker 6: do the same things that he does. I mean, you
- 15:19Speaker 6: might even have a guy in Tory Horton if he
- 15:20Speaker 6: comes back and he's healthy, that is just as good
- 15:23Speaker 6: and does the very similar things. I mean, do you
- 15:26Speaker 6: see them possibly be out there kind of shopping around
- 15:29Speaker 6: for something they might think is a little bit less
- 15:32Speaker 6: expensive considering the other money they're gonna throw at Jackson
- 15:34Speaker 6: Smith and Jigbuan, guys like Devin withersmen.
- 15:37Speaker 8: If they lose Shaheed, Yes, they will be in the
- 15:41Speaker 8: market for a second wave, maybe even third wave free
- 15:44Speaker 8: agent wide receiver. I'm talking mid to late March, not
- 15:48Speaker 8: top shelf, top money, because otherwise you just signed the Yeah,
- 15:53Speaker 8: his value to them is far more in the kick
- 15:56Speaker 8: return game than wide receiver. They do think they have
- 15:58Speaker 8: Tory Horton to be their golf take the top off
- 16:01Speaker 8: a defense wide receiver. They do think Tory Horton is
- 16:04Speaker 8: going to be back in time for training camp. They
- 16:06Speaker 8: do think they've got three very productive years with a
- 16:08Speaker 8: guy they really love in Tory Horton. They think Horton
- 16:12Speaker 8: fits the locker room culture. Mike McDonald has set quality
- 16:16Speaker 8: individuals from a great family background, as siblings are all
- 16:20Speaker 8: Division one athletes, volleyball mostly UTEP and well play it
- 16:24Speaker 8: and sisters play in Europe and volleyball professionally. Raving about
- 16:29Speaker 8: him as a guy, and we talked about how John
- 16:31Speaker 8: Schneider has tried to get back to more good human
- 16:35Speaker 8: beings as it picks for culture purposes. The risk of
- 16:39Speaker 8: signing free agents is that you don't know how they're
- 16:41Speaker 8: going to fit this brotherhood and culture that they really
- 16:43Speaker 8: perfected this Super Bowl run season. And especially if you're
- 16:47Speaker 8: paying adopt dollar for guys who don't know how the
- 16:49Speaker 8: culture exactly is going to fit. You're bringing in somebody
- 16:52Speaker 8: else's a guy who was raised in another culture. That's
- 16:57Speaker 8: why they go conservative. That's why they'd rather draft and
- 17:00Speaker 8: signed top free agents. They'd rather mold their own dudes
- 17:04Speaker 8: instead of bringing in somebody else's dudes have got to
- 17:06Speaker 8: let go for whatever reason that in a nutshell and
- 17:08Speaker 8: simplistic terms as John Schneider's Seahawk approach, it's worked, and
- 17:13Speaker 8: they've got a coach that they think can absolutely mold
- 17:16Speaker 8: that culture and maintain it even when they lose guys
- 17:19Speaker 8: and in Hortant, they think they got a guy who
- 17:20Speaker 8: fits the culture. Shaheed, they definitely think they have a
- 17:23Speaker 8: guy who fits their culture. I'm still gonna be surprised
- 17:28Speaker 8: that if Shhed's not a Seahawk this time next week.
- 17:31Speaker 4: Greg mal Our, Seahawks insider, joining us here on this
- 17:34Speaker 4: hump day, great stuff as always, we do appreciate it.
- 17:37Speaker 4: And yeah, way to go, way to fall asleep on
- 17:39Speaker 4: that old Ken Walker story.
- 17:41Speaker 8: Man. Yeah, it was breaking news on ESPN yesterday. I
- 17:48Speaker 8: mean comfort presses. They were so ignorant about the chuckle.
- 17:55Speaker 8: What's breaking news anymore?
- 17:57Speaker 5: That's true.
- 17:58Speaker 4: I love when there's a breaking news story that just
- 18:01Speaker 4: deals with probabilities.
- 18:04Speaker 5: Breaking news.
- 18:05Speaker 4: You know, running back X is probably less likely to
- 18:10Speaker 4: sign with Team Y.
- 18:14Speaker 8: When I first got into journalism, you weren't supposed to
- 18:17Speaker 8: suppose you were supposed to report when you knew, and
- 18:21Speaker 8: now we just throw stuff out there that maybe this
- 18:24Speaker 8: will happen. Well, this might happen too.
- 18:28Speaker 4: Yeah, Walker is probably less likely to probably sign with
- 18:32Speaker 4: the Seahawks necessarily. Maybe maybe all right, Greg will talk
- 18:37Speaker 4: to you tomorrow.
- 18:39Speaker 8: It's like the adverbs from Schoolhouse Rock.
- 18:43Speaker 5: If you've seen this, Oh yeah, I love to Bucky.
- 18:46Speaker 8: Please tell me you know Schoolhouse Rock? Oh yeah, yeah,
- 18:48Speaker 8: oh good good.
- 18:51Speaker 5: He's not just all right, Greg, Thank you.
- 18:54Speaker 4: Greg Mallershawks Inside It from the News Tribune again, followed
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- 19:18Speaker 4: Coming up next, we got an NHL trading deadline coming
- 19:22Speaker 4: up on Friday.
- 19:23Speaker 5: I mean it's Wednesday. Where are all of these trades?
- 19:26Speaker 4: The NHL typically makes like a million trades at their
- 19:30Speaker 4: NHL trading deadline. Where are the deals and will the
- 19:35Speaker 4: crack and pull a major deal. Some people say that
- 19:38Speaker 4: they need to. We'll discuss next Sports Radio ninety three
- 19:41Speaker 4: point three KJRFM Green Jacket Drafting today. Find out we've
- 19:44Speaker 4: never done a green jagged draft quite like this one before,
- 19:47Speaker 4: So we'll do that at nine o'clock today, and Al
- 19:49Speaker 4: Koniski will be joining us at nine thirty to talk
- 19:52Speaker 4: some crack and hockey. The team is now one two
- 19:54Speaker 4: games in a row, after losing two games in a row,
- 19:57Speaker 4: after waiting three weeks to play. We're still trying to
- 20:01Speaker 4: figure out exactly what this team is at this point.
- 20:03Speaker 4: But one thing that we have shared throughout the entire
- 20:07Speaker 4: history young history of the Seattle Kraken, anybody that talks
- 20:11Speaker 4: about them and thinks about how they should get better.
- 20:14Speaker 4: We need more scoring, We need another score, We need
- 20:16Speaker 4: a true difference maker. And so is that a possibility
- 20:21Speaker 4: for them as we sit here on a Wednesday, a
- 20:24Speaker 4: little over forty eight hours shy of the NHL trading deadline. Well,
- 20:29Speaker 4: there are a lot of people that believe that the
- 20:31Speaker 4: Kraken are of the mindset they might be willing to
- 20:34Speaker 4: move on from a really talented young player or two
- 20:38Speaker 4: in order to get that veteran piece that helps them win. Now,
- 20:41Speaker 4: some are going as.
- 20:42Speaker 5: Far as using the B word.
- 20:44Speaker 4: A blockbuster could happen between now and Friday. Do you
- 20:49Speaker 4: think the team needs a blockbuster trade right now?
- 20:52Speaker 8: Probably?
- 20:53Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know exactly what constitutes a blockbuster,
- 20:57Speaker 6: but I mean a couple of things that I've been
- 20:59Speaker 6: reading about would include Shane Wright as a bargaining chip
- 21:03Speaker 6: in some of these trades, and that would feel blockbuster
- 21:07Speaker 6: ish because you'd be trading for someone that's more of
- 21:09Speaker 6: a proven score in the NHL, and so you're giving
- 21:13Speaker 6: up somebody that's maybe you know, not getting as much
- 21:16Speaker 6: ice time as you would think based on where he
- 21:18Speaker 6: was drafted at, and so I mean, yeah, I mean
- 21:22Speaker 6: I think if that's a blockbuster, if you go out
- 21:24Speaker 6: and you get somebody that is a proven scorer out there,
- 21:26Speaker 6: then I think, and you give up a young piece
- 21:29Speaker 6: that has still a lot of potential upside, then yeah,
- 21:33Speaker 6: I think that might be constituted as a blockbuster. And
- 21:34Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised one bit if that's what they're
- 21:37Speaker 6: that's the bucket that they're trying to play in.
- 21:39Speaker 4: Well, I think that they should be of the mindset
- 21:42Speaker 4: to be willing to move on. I mean, we've been
- 21:44Speaker 4: hearing about all of these kids for so long, and
- 21:47Speaker 4: I'm not sure Shane Wright's had the impact on this
- 21:49Speaker 4: team this year that Milanson and Myers have had on
- 21:53Speaker 4: this team as far lesser prospects through the entire process.
- 21:58Speaker 4: And yet we know upside probably should have been the
- 22:02Speaker 4: number one overall pick back in the day, not based
- 22:06Speaker 4: on what's happened historically since that time, but at the time,
- 22:10Speaker 4: it seemed like there was just a I don't know,
- 22:13Speaker 4: maybe even a miscommunication that Shane Wright thought for sure
- 22:17Speaker 4: he was going to be the number one overall pick
- 22:18Speaker 4: in the draft once upon a time and he ended
- 22:21Speaker 4: up with the Kraken. Well, ever, since that time, there's
- 22:23Speaker 4: been a huge expectation, and I'm not sure that he's
- 22:26Speaker 4: really playing the all around game of hockey that they
- 22:30Speaker 4: want him to play. But I don't think there's still
- 22:32Speaker 4: any doubt. I mean, he's so young still, and the
- 22:36Speaker 4: upside is there, the upside potential. I think they are
- 22:40Speaker 4: Ashley at the point where, yeah, I would consider trading
- 22:44Speaker 4: Shane Wright, but I'm going to have to get something
- 22:47Speaker 4: really special for that. I mean, the names that have
- 22:50Speaker 4: been floating around here at this trading deadline, like Vincent
- 22:53Speaker 4: Trocheck from the Rangers, thirty two year old with thirteen
- 22:57Speaker 4: goals this year. For me, yeah, Robert Thomas, twenty six
- 23:01Speaker 4: year old younger from Saint Louis, a center, more of
- 23:04Speaker 4: a passer than a score, but.
- 23:05Speaker 5: Still twelve goals this year.
- 23:07Speaker 4: Elias Patterson Patterson from Vancouver if they would play ball
- 23:11Speaker 4: with us, is another name that they're kind of counting
- 23:14Speaker 4: among the big names available at the trading deadline. Yes,
- 23:17Speaker 4: thirteen goals. I mean, that's not even in the top
- 23:20Speaker 4: one fifty of goal scorers this year in the NHL.
- 23:24Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 23:25Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm gonna move a talent like Shane Wright,
- 23:28Speaker 4: no matter how frustrated I am with him, I'm going
- 23:31Speaker 4: to have to get something a lot more sure thing
- 23:33Speaker 4: than that to add to my roster right now.
- 23:36Speaker 9: Well, and that's what I would think that you're going for.
- 23:39Speaker 3: If you're saying like, yeah, we're going to make a
- 23:41Speaker 3: blockbuster trade, it has to be somebody.
- 23:43Speaker 9: Where you're bringing them in and everybody.
- 23:45Speaker 3: Goes, WHOA, yeah we got that guy, not huh, you know,
- 23:50Speaker 3: or I mean, because yeah, you want to bring in
- 23:53Speaker 3: somebody who sc scoring around twenty five thirty.
- 23:55Speaker 9: Goals right now by this time, that what I'd be thinking, Yeah, and.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Not somebody that it doesn't seem like you're really doing
- 24:01Speaker 3: much to actually improve the team because you're giving up
- 24:04Speaker 3: on the prospect that Shane Wright could be in the
- 24:08Speaker 3: next couple of years.
- 24:09Speaker 5: I mean, he had a.
- 24:09Speaker 4: Pretty good year left. Yeah, he did, and by the
- 24:11Speaker 4: end of the season. He looked like the best player
- 24:14Speaker 4: on the team by the end of last season, and
- 24:16Speaker 4: he hasn't played as well, and he's dealing with a
- 24:18Speaker 4: new head coach, and maybe the head coach wants to
- 24:20Speaker 4: see more of the gritty toughness out of him. Maybe
- 24:23Speaker 4: that's why he's not getting the ice time. But there's
- 24:26Speaker 4: still no doubting his talent, so I have no problem
- 24:30Speaker 4: moving him. But if I hear Shane Wright's been involved
- 24:33Speaker 4: in the trade between now and.
- 24:34Speaker 5: Friday, I better read it.
- 24:37Speaker 4: With Austin Matthews heading to Seattle, Toronto's sick to death
- 24:43Speaker 4: of him. Yeah, and maybe we'd get sick to Maybe
- 24:45Speaker 4: there's an attitude issue. I don't know, but Toronto has
- 24:49Speaker 4: put so much hope into Austin Matthews as the guy
- 24:52Speaker 4: that's going to end our long drought, our Stanley Cup deprivation,
- 24:58Speaker 4: and they keep there, like slipping firs there and further
- 25:00Speaker 4: and further away every year that passes. I know the
- 25:05Speaker 4: fans want to trade him. I don't know if the
- 25:07Speaker 4: front office in Toronto wants to trade him. But if
- 25:09Speaker 4: I'm going to include Shane Wright, a guy that just
- 25:12Speaker 4: a couple of years ago was considered for the number
- 25:15Speaker 4: one overall pick in the draft, a guy that just
- 25:17Speaker 4: a few months ago people thought was the best offensive
- 25:20Speaker 4: player on our team.
- 25:22Speaker 5: Then I better get a name like Austin Matthews.
- 25:24Speaker 4: I better get a goal scorer of that caliber back
- 25:26Speaker 4: in return, and not somebody who's on pace just to
- 25:29Speaker 4: score as.
- 25:29Speaker 5: Many goals as Shane Wright this year.
- 25:32Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like there would be something there that
- 25:34Speaker 6: you're risking potentially Shane Wright going and blossoming somewhere else,
- 25:39Speaker 6: and it kind of coming back to haunt you that said,
- 25:42Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know exactly how they they look
- 25:45Speaker 6: at individual guys of whether or not they think this
- 25:49Speaker 6: guy is a thirty goal scorer now, and maybe Shane
- 25:52Speaker 6: Wright turns into a thirty goal scorer or better than
- 25:55Speaker 6: that possibly at some point in time. I mean, I
- 25:57Speaker 6: think it's a lot of it has to do with
- 26:00Speaker 6: how long have they been somewhere, right, If you're around
- 26:03Speaker 6: twenty goals like that, Shane Wright looks like a twenty
- 26:06Speaker 6: goal scorer guy, and he's going to possibly turn into
- 26:10Speaker 6: more than that. If you have somebody that's been twenty
- 26:12Speaker 6: to twenty five and they still think that that person
- 26:15Speaker 6: has room for growth where they can get to thirty
- 26:17Speaker 6: thirty five, then maybe that's where you make a jump,
- 26:20Speaker 6: just because you're thinking right now it makes us, we
- 26:22Speaker 6: think it makes us better or a more dangerous offensive team.
- 26:27Speaker 6: Maybe that's where they go, even though they're going to
- 26:29Speaker 6: be a little bit scared when they're letting a guy
- 26:31Speaker 6: like Shane Wright skate out the door.
- 26:33Speaker 4: Well, I think all of those guys probably do make
- 26:35Speaker 4: you better that I mentioned. And I'm not saying that
- 26:38Speaker 4: this is what the Kraken are considering. I'm just reading
- 26:41Speaker 4: through the rumors. I mean, right now, New York Times
- 26:43Speaker 4: has an article out one move, one thing every NHL
- 26:47Speaker 4: team needs to do before the deadline, and what they
- 26:50Speaker 4: have as the description for the cracking is they will
- 26:53Speaker 4: acquire a player with a fairly significant cap hit, and
- 26:57Speaker 4: in the description it says they are willing to dangle
- 27:00Speaker 4: Shane Wright in that conversation. Yeah, I think all three
- 27:04Speaker 4: of those guys, Trocheck, Thomas, and Peterson, who have been
- 27:07Speaker 4: mentioned quite a bit leading up to the NHL trading deadline,
- 27:10Speaker 4: might make you a better team, you know, immediately, because
- 27:14Speaker 4: they're a little better rounded game. They're more veteran, you know,
- 27:18Speaker 4: Thomas's twenty six, Petterson's twenty nine, Trochecks thirty two. For
- 27:21Speaker 4: goodness sake, he was in the on the Team USA squad.
- 27:24Speaker 4: But in order to give up the full potential of
- 27:27Speaker 4: Shane Wright, I mean, like I said, they're on pace
- 27:31Speaker 4: to score the exact same number of goals that Shane
- 27:33Speaker 4: Wright is. I'm not just I'm not gonna give up
- 27:37Speaker 4: something with that kind of upset upside without getting something
- 27:41Speaker 4: that I know is an offensive weapon that gets added
- 27:46Speaker 4: to this team. So it better be something sexy if
- 27:49Speaker 4: I'm moving on from Shane Wright.
- 27:51Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Well, and I think, yeah, you look at his season
- 27:53Speaker 3: that he had last year and the promise that you have.
- 27:54Speaker 3: It's very similar to me to kind of what happened
- 27:56Speaker 3: with Matty Benier's right, great first season in the second season,
- 27:59Speaker 3: people figured him out or you know whatever, the sophomore
- 28:03Speaker 3: kind of slump that he had, and now he's on
- 28:05Speaker 3: his way back up.
- 28:06Speaker 9: Well, I if.
- 28:08Speaker 3: I'm going to in my mind know that Shane Wright
- 28:11Speaker 3: will be on his way back up, I better get
- 28:14Speaker 3: somebody that isn't going to make me be really really
- 28:17Speaker 3: mad that we got Shane Wright right before he went
- 28:19Speaker 3: on his way back up, or that we lost Shane
- 28:21Speaker 3: right now.
- 28:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, how many examples do
- 28:24Speaker 4: we need of it? I mean, I'm sure the organization's
- 28:27Speaker 4: frustrated with him. I mean that's pretty clear the amount
- 28:30Speaker 4: of ice time that he's getting right now compared to
- 28:33Speaker 4: what we thought he was going to be getting at
- 28:35Speaker 4: the beginning of the season. But it's still a very
- 28:38Speaker 4: young player who I think we afford the sophomore slump to, yeah,
- 28:43Speaker 4: to try to rise back up. But if we're going
- 28:45Speaker 4: to use him to dangle to get something substantial, I'm
- 28:50Speaker 4: all for it.
- 28:51Speaker 5: Let's do it.
- 28:51Speaker 4: Yeah, But I'm not trading for thirty two year old
- 28:54Speaker 4: Vincent Trocheck please No. Yeah, and his higher salary and
- 29:00Speaker 4: his you know, lack of impact just because he's got
- 29:04Speaker 4: a little extra grit in the tank.
- 29:06Speaker 5: That's what I'm not doing well.
- 29:07Speaker 6: One a guy that's kind of close to it over
- 29:09Speaker 6: there said that they were in on that Pannin guy
- 29:12Speaker 6: that ended up Paneren that ended up going.
- 29:14Speaker 5: On Spread Buttery.
- 29:15Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, Pania Good Meal Deals.
- 29:18Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, that they were in on him and then
- 29:21Speaker 6: he ended up going to LA. So that's a guy
- 29:23Speaker 6: that you know at this point it's more significant. Yeah,
- 29:26Speaker 6: that's I mean, he's got around twenty goals right now.
- 29:29Speaker 6: I mean points wise, he's he's way up there above
- 29:32Speaker 6: where Shane Right is. So that's something where you're like, Okay,
- 29:34Speaker 6: we're definitely upgrading now, but you're he's a thirty four
- 29:37Speaker 6: year old, So you're saying we're upgrading now, this is
- 29:39Speaker 6: for the now, and you're giving up the potential of
- 29:43Speaker 6: what the future of trade of Shane Right holds. So
- 29:46Speaker 6: if that's one that they were interested in and it
- 29:48Speaker 6: didn't necessarily come to fruition, then you're probably looking somewhere
- 29:51Speaker 6: in that ballpark, is what they're thinking. Is that blockbuster
- 29:55Speaker 6: if that's what you want to call it.
- 29:56Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 29:56Speaker 4: That's the thing though, is we we are just kind
- 29:58Speaker 4: of getting immersed in hockey and understanding the league and
- 30:02Speaker 4: every year I add a few more players to my you.
- 30:04Speaker 5: Know, repertoire of knowledge.
- 30:06Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you aren't die hard and you think
- 30:10Speaker 4: about a significant trade, you can't help but go, what
- 30:14Speaker 4: can we give for Connor?
- 30:15Speaker 5: What we get for Connormy David and.
- 30:16Speaker 3: And they just you know, we could probably get a
- 30:18Speaker 3: deal for Sidney Crosby he's hurt.
- 30:20Speaker 5: Well maybe Sidney Crosby. But the Penguins are really good.
- 30:24Speaker 4: They're like, right, they're not gonna be sellers at the
- 30:26Speaker 4: trading guys.
- 30:27Speaker 9: I was just saying, like that would be what people
- 30:29Speaker 9: would think.
- 30:29Speaker 4: Yeah, right, you kind of think of like like that
- 30:31Speaker 4: big name. I mean, we hear all the time from
- 30:33Speaker 4: NHL people. There just aren't that many like massive difference
- 30:38Speaker 4: makers in the NHL. And to get one of them,
- 30:41Speaker 4: they're just not available. They just you just can't pry
- 30:45Speaker 4: them away from other teams. And so but it's gonna
- 30:50Speaker 4: have to be one of those guys, I would think.
- 30:53Speaker 4: And if Austin Matthews has fallen out of grace in Toronto,
- 30:57Speaker 4: I mean that is somebody. I mean, he's got twenty
- 31:00Speaker 4: six goals this year, but that is somebody that just
- 31:03Speaker 4: two years ago and He's only twenty eight, was in
- 31:06Speaker 4: the conversation as best goalscorer in the NHL as an
- 31:09Speaker 4: MVP candidate perennially annually, And so that's what it's gonna
- 31:14Speaker 4: take for me. I mean, there are other ways. We
- 31:16Speaker 4: don't have to make this just about Shane Wright. But
- 31:18Speaker 4: there are other moves, and there are other prospects to move.
- 31:21Speaker 4: And if we ended up with a Petterson or a
- 31:22Speaker 4: Thomas or a tro Check, great, I think that does
- 31:25Speaker 4: improve the team.
- 31:27Speaker 9: But I'm gone with the expense of Shane right not.
- 31:29Speaker 5: At the expense of somebody that they had such high
- 31:31Speaker 5: hopes for just three months ago.
- 31:34Speaker 9: I agree, all right.
- 31:35Speaker 4: Coming up next on the radio program, we get Reckless
- 31:37Speaker 4: at Breakfast Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Coming
- 31:40Speaker 4: up next, we're gonna play check yes or No for
- 31:43Speaker 4: the second day in a row. At eight o'clock, we're
- 31:45Speaker 4: gonna talk about NFL free agency, what the Seahawks may
- 31:48Speaker 4: or may not do. So another round of check yes
- 31:50Speaker 4: or No coming up. But right now, we get a
- 31:52Speaker 4: little reckless at Breakfast and I will stay with the
- 31:54Speaker 4: National Football League here. And yesterday we talked quite a
- 31:57Speaker 4: bit about the possibility of the Seahawks trading for Max Crawl.
- 32:00Speaker 4: But we've talked about it from the Seahawks perspective, so
- 32:03Speaker 4: and reckless at breakfast. I kind of want to talk
- 32:04Speaker 4: about this from the Raiders perspective, because they really got
- 32:07Speaker 4: a chance here to I mean, load up. Whether or
- 32:10Speaker 4: not they can make good picks. I mean, I don't know,
- 32:14Speaker 4: maybe they're just screwed.
- 32:15Speaker 8: I don't know.
- 32:15Speaker 4: The Silver and Black has lost its appeal across the
- 32:19Speaker 4: National Football League. But in terms of like putting yourself
- 32:23Speaker 4: in a position cap space wise, draft pick wise, they
- 32:28Speaker 4: might have an opportunity here this offseason to kind of
- 32:32Speaker 4: go all in and not do some half ass rebuild,
- 32:34Speaker 4: but really just go all in and just kind of
- 32:37Speaker 4: stock up their stores and get ready for the years ahead.
- 32:41Speaker 5: And this is what I mean by it.
- 32:43Speaker 4: If they're not sold, if they're sold on Fernando Mendoza,
- 32:46Speaker 4: you take him as the number one pick. Bottom line,
- 32:49Speaker 4: like quarterback, can underestimate it, don't entertain any other trade
- 32:54Speaker 4: offer out there. If you're sold on him, you think
- 32:56Speaker 4: he's special, then you draft Fernando Mendoza. I don't what
- 33:00Speaker 4: other people are offering. You can take your phone off
- 33:02Speaker 4: the hook. Okay, so let me just clarify that. But
- 33:05Speaker 4: there are rumors out there that maybe they aren't in
- 33:08Speaker 4: love with him, and maybe that they would considering moving
- 33:12Speaker 4: off the spot because they might not see him as
- 33:17Speaker 4: the franchise quarterback. And as Ashley and I discussed last week,
- 33:21Speaker 4: maybe Tom Brady, who's probably gonna make this decision, doesn't.
- 33:24Speaker 5: Even like first overall picks at quarterback.
- 33:26Speaker 4: Maybe he wants somebody like him that had to fight
- 33:30Speaker 4: through the muck, had to Shawshank redemption it in order
- 33:33Speaker 4: to get to you know, to get to the promised
- 33:37Speaker 4: land of the National Football League.
- 33:38Speaker 5: So I don't know.
- 33:40Speaker 4: Let's just though, for the purpose of the exercise, say
- 33:43Speaker 4: they don't really.
- 33:44Speaker 5: Like him, they don't think.
- 33:46Speaker 4: That there are a few red flags out there with Mendoza,
- 33:49Speaker 4: and so they would entertain moving off of him well
- 33:54Speaker 4: the price that they could potentially get, because the other
- 33:57Speaker 4: rumor out there is that the Jets do like him
- 34:00Speaker 4: that much and want to get up there, and the
- 34:01Speaker 4: Jets have the second pick overall, if the Raiders could
- 34:05Speaker 4: take the number one pick where they don't really like
- 34:10Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza, and they can get the second overall pick
- 34:14Speaker 4: and take David Bailey potentially out of Texas Tech to
- 34:18Speaker 4: replace Max Crosby, much cheaper version of him. Plus they
- 34:24Speaker 4: get the other Jets' first round pick, the one they
- 34:26Speaker 4: got in the Sauce Gardener trade from the Colts, and
- 34:29Speaker 4: they get one of their two second round picks because
- 34:32Speaker 4: they owned the Dallas Cowboys second round pick because of
- 34:34Speaker 4: the Quinn Williams trade, and they get next year's number one.
- 34:38Speaker 4: And that's pretty good. That's a pretty good haul right there,
- 34:41Speaker 4: just going down one spot, you pick up all those
- 34:44Speaker 4: other assets, and you didn't even want the guy that
- 34:48Speaker 4: the Jets took anyway, all right, Then you flip Crosby
- 34:52Speaker 4: since he doesn't want to be there, and you do
- 34:54Speaker 4: get from the Seahawks the first round pick of this
- 34:57Speaker 4: year and the first round pick of next year.
- 35:00Speaker 5: And then they throw in a player.
- 35:01Speaker 4: And I'm just going to say, just theoretically, because we're
- 35:04Speaker 4: reckless at breakfast here, Drew Lock, veteran quarterback, never really
- 35:09Speaker 4: hasn't been given the keys to the car. Give him
- 35:13Speaker 4: a chance at two million dollars to show if he's
- 35:16Speaker 4: can Sam darnold it this upcoming year. People that rode
- 35:20Speaker 4: him off. Maybe he's got a little bit left in
- 35:22Speaker 4: the tank. I bring in Drew Lock at that stage,
- 35:26Speaker 4: and I let him be my quarterback for one season.
- 35:30Speaker 4: With all of that draft capital that I've added, plus
- 35:32Speaker 4: I'm probably going to be pretty bad myself a year
- 35:35Speaker 4: from now. And now, all of a sudden, I'm looking
- 35:38Speaker 4: at eving three first round picks next year. You know,
- 35:41Speaker 4: you know, three second round picks next year. I got
- 35:44Speaker 4: Drew Lock on a cheap deal. If he doesn't work out,
- 35:47Speaker 4: I just cut him loose at the end of the season.
- 35:49Speaker 4: If he does work out, I can franchise tag his ass.
- 35:52Speaker 4: I get rid of Max Crosby's thirty one million dollars
- 35:56Speaker 4: off of my books. That creates cap space. I can
- 35:59Speaker 4: cut's Geno Smith. That saves me eight million dollars in
- 36:02Speaker 4: cap space. I already have ninety million dollars in cap
- 36:05Speaker 4: space to begin with, and I just added forty more million,
- 36:09Speaker 4: at one hundred and thirty million dollars to spend this offseason.
- 36:12Speaker 4: With a veteran, if not proven quarterback and Drew Locke
- 36:16Speaker 4: and a bunch of draft picks, I might be able
- 36:19Speaker 4: to turn this thing around a lot differently, but a
- 36:22Speaker 4: lot more quickly than I would just taking the number
- 36:25Speaker 4: one pick and keeping Max Crosby at this situation. And
- 36:28Speaker 4: keep this in mind, I mean, the New England Patriots
- 36:31Speaker 4: didn't turn things around this past year just because they
- 36:35Speaker 4: added Mike Vrabel. The New England Patriots were the most
- 36:39Speaker 4: aggressive team in the NFL in free agency last year.
- 36:42Speaker 4: They committed three hundred and sixty million dollars in one
- 36:46Speaker 4: off season in free agency. So yeah, Mike Grabel was
- 36:50Speaker 4: probably the biggest or Actually, Drake May's improvement was probably
- 36:54Speaker 4: the biggest source for why the Patriots went from four
- 36:56Speaker 4: wins to the super Bowl, and Mike Rabel was probably
- 36:59Speaker 4: the second reason. But make no mistake about it, they
- 37:02Speaker 4: added a lot of talent in the offseason because they
- 37:05Speaker 4: had ridiculous amounts of cap space to work with, so
- 37:09Speaker 4: they did it in one year. Maybe the Raiders, this
- 37:12Speaker 4: is a better choice for them to go down this road.
- 37:15Speaker 4: Go ahead and deal Crosby to the Seahawks. Go ahead
- 37:18Speaker 4: and deal Mendoz if you don't like him to the Jets.
- 37:21Speaker 4: Accrew all of these draft picks and create a ton
- 37:25Speaker 4: of cap space, and maybe you can turn your fortunes
- 37:28Speaker 4: around more quickly doing it that way.
- 37:31Speaker 6: I like the outside the box thinking, because I do
- 37:34Speaker 6: feel like the Raiders are a long ways. They're much
- 37:38Speaker 6: further than one quarterback away from being good. And so
- 37:42Speaker 6: if that's the way tom Brady's looking at it, and
- 37:44Speaker 6: he's thinking maybe going the tom Brady route, trying to
- 37:47Speaker 6: find somebody later on in the draft that you think
- 37:50Speaker 6: you see some intangibles with that is just being overlooked
- 37:54Speaker 6: because of where he played or what his opportunities were
- 37:56Speaker 6: in college. I think there's definitely something to that. It
- 37:59Speaker 6: does seem like that is a little bit of a
- 38:01Speaker 6: quicker way. Now, the flip side of it is is
- 38:03Speaker 6: how many gms, when they see somebody that comes out
- 38:06Speaker 6: and played the way that Mendoza did, especially this last year,
- 38:10Speaker 6: can afford to let that go by. And if he
- 38:13Speaker 6: goes to New York and all of a sudden he
- 38:15Speaker 6: is the guy, He's the he's the bona fide, legitimate,
- 38:18Speaker 6: should should have been the number one overall pick. Is
- 38:20Speaker 6: a franchise quarterback for somebody, and your you know your project,
- 38:25Speaker 6: if you will that you take in the third round
- 38:28Speaker 6: is not, then you know you're right if you have
- 38:30Speaker 6: something on there where you have like a Drew lock,
- 38:32Speaker 6: because I mean I saw Drew Locke as a Bronco,
- 38:34Speaker 6: and he was he looked better than Sam Darnold looked
- 38:39Speaker 6: in his time as a jet. He just there was
- 38:42Speaker 6: just things about him that he wasn't evolving as a quarterback,
- 38:45Speaker 6: and so he ended up basically finding himself holding the clipboard.
- 38:47Speaker 6: But I think that there's something that's very creative, and
- 38:50Speaker 6: I think that there is definitely an idea of that
- 38:52Speaker 6: that it would be the quickest way to rebuild the
- 38:54Speaker 6: entire roster versus just going out there and taking the
- 38:57Speaker 6: guy that is the consensus number one overall pick.
- 39:00Speaker 4: If they like him. Again, that's why I started with this.
- 39:02Speaker 4: You take him if you think he's special. There's no
- 39:05Speaker 4: way you move off of, you know, a quarterback that
- 39:08Speaker 4: you think is special, because you build around that guy.
- 39:10Speaker 4: But if you do have doubts, if the interviews feel
- 39:13Speaker 4: wonky to you, you know, if there's if you're questioning
- 39:18Speaker 4: whether or not he's a leader of men, or if
- 39:20Speaker 4: he doesn't have the arm strength that you think that
- 39:22Speaker 4: he'll struggle in the National Football League, then man, you
- 39:26Speaker 4: could really fatten up on cap space and draft picks
- 39:29Speaker 4: here in the next week or two and really set
- 39:31Speaker 4: yourself up well for the future. Like I said, the
- 39:35Speaker 4: Patriots got there because they spent so much money. They
- 39:38Speaker 4: had so much cap space this past year. It wasn't
- 39:41Speaker 4: just Vrabel and Drake May all right. Coming up next,
- 39:44Speaker 4: we're going to play a round of check yes or
- 39:45Speaker 4: No here on KJR.