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A Static Lullaby · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Speaker 1: Astarabin the sky upon to the dead. Lettuce mistake, bring
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  Speaker 1: a vivid tristle to her eye, strain out before the
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  Speaker 1: flud brings a choke. Canda inhale the spark.
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  Speaker 2: Of your.
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  Speaker 3: All to the dead.
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  Speaker 4: Instead, bring up. We've got the guys from a static lullaby.
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  Speaker 4: Just so excited to chat with you guys. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you guys are legends, legends in the you know, alternative
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  Speaker 4: music scene. You know that, just like anything post hardcore email,
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  Speaker 4: all of that world is like such a It holds
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  Speaker 4: such a huge place in our hearts for Colin and I,
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  Speaker 4: and so it feels like an honor to any time
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  Speaker 4: that we get to interview a band that has been
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  Speaker 4: around for a long time, has been a legend in
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  Speaker 4: the world that Colin and I grew up with in music.
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  Speaker 4: It's just a big deal. So super grateful that you
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  Speaker 4: guys are hanging out with us, and the fact that
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  Speaker 4: it's like four of you makes it even extra special.
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  Speaker 4: Normally it's just like one guy, but typically yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: typically just that, but the fact that the whole band
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  Speaker 4: decided to show up and hang out with us is special.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, So anyway, we'll dive into all things a
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  Speaker 4: static level by history. But before we dive into that,
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  Speaker 4: how you guys doing today?
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  Speaker 5: Doing all right?
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  Speaker 6: We're super codependent band, which is why one there's no
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  Speaker 6: single person that has enough stamina to get through.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I got extreme agoraphobia unless I'm connected to my friends.
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  Speaker 2: So well, if we could please real quick, just so
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  Speaker 2: the listeners, if they're not watching on YouTube so they
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  Speaker 2: know who each voice is, would you mind just saying
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  Speaker 2: your name and saying hello real quick each, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: My name is Dan, Hello, my name's Joe. Hello, my
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  Speaker 5: name's Kyler. Hello.
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  Speaker 7: My name is Nick.
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  Speaker 5: Hello. No, that's not Nick.
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  Speaker 6: That's somewhere Nick walked away.
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  Speaker 7: We'll be back.
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  Speaker 5: We're trying to full the AI Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Dan, I hope, I hope Nick knows that this is
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  Speaker 4: like not that big of a podcast, so there's nothing
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  Speaker 4: to be that worried about. You know, this is not
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  Speaker 4: like playing.
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  Speaker 7: Don't tell the uber driver that he thinks Nick something
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  Speaker 7: to the Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Dan, has anyone ever said that you kind of look
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  Speaker 2: like Louis c K.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard that you have heard that maybe a younger version.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and we're both we're both redheaded Mexicans.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, Dan, your Mexican.
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  Speaker 7: You've heard I've heard Tom Hardy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I get Tom Hardy.
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  Speaker 2: I get, well, that's a completely different realm. I was
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  Speaker 2: not going to get.
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  Speaker 7: I have heard Tom Hardy for him. And then there
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  Speaker 7: was another one that.
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  Speaker 5: Was get Gerard Butler. I get a.
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  Speaker 6: They used to get Devin. You guys when I left,
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  Speaker 6: just like Devin.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Joe, you kind of look like you kind
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  Speaker 2: of look like uh youth pastor from two thousand and That's.
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  Speaker 7: What somebody told me today at work, and I said, no,
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  Speaker 7: I'm just selling.
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  Speaker 5: Mixed with French Stewart.
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  Speaker 4: That's funny that you think, les is it?
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  Speaker 7: Because I have the collar and the deans? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's the rectangular Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: the rectangular glasses and the quaft hairs.
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  Speaker 7: And wait, so doesn't help. So what age range am
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  Speaker 7: I at? At Sandal's Church of Beaumont? Where? Where Who
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  Speaker 7: am I? You?
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  Speaker 2: You're you're am I You're you're the guy who's who's
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  Speaker 2: running the high school youth group. But then you're transitioning
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  Speaker 2: into the marriage and family counsel position.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, okay, am I am I am? I
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  Speaker 7: am I the main what what do we call that?
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  Speaker 7: A the chaperone for all off campus events?
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  Speaker 4: Pretty much?
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  Speaker 2: No, that's generally gonna be left to the to the female,
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  Speaker 2: okay of your youth pastor group, Colin, Like they don't
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  Speaker 2: want allegations at sandals.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: The funny thing about that, like that whole like career
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  Speaker 4: trajectory for you, Joe, is like there's literally a specific
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  Speaker 4: person that Colin and I grew up with that was
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  Speaker 4: like a youth pastor that transitioned exactly to that exact position. So, uh,
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say he looks like you, but like he does.
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  Speaker 4: He's got the vibe. He's got the same vibe and
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  Speaker 4: I can see it.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's also the way you cross your legs. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's that too.
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  Speaker 7: Well. Dan Danielle's at me because sometimes our feet touch,
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  Speaker 7: so I gotta be very careful. Yeah, he's got to
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  Speaker 7: keep it, keep it low and at a correct angle.
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  Speaker 7: Otherwise we're playing foot seas and it doesn't like so
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  Speaker 7: if we go the same direction that I crossed into
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  Speaker 7: his boundary too, So it's it's it's very serious.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe, Joe, you you definitely look like the kind
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  Speaker 4: of guy that like, you've graduated to crossing your legs now,
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  Speaker 4: but when maybe like maybe ten years ago, you're the
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  Speaker 4: guy that like was sitting backwards on like a like
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  Speaker 4: a like oh.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah backwards stool. Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 5: There's no way his pants were loosening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, classic em like, oh yeah, he like it's you're
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  Speaker 4: definitely you guys are definitely emo. If if your jeams
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  Speaker 4: are gonna rip if you like spread them a little
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  Speaker 4: too far, that's that was like that that was like
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  Speaker 4: the least toxic masculine thing about the Emo scene was
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  Speaker 4: how tight the jeans were, not just because they were tight,
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  Speaker 4: but because you couldn't man spread in them.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean we we we found some workarounds because
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  Speaker 7: girls jeans did start putting the elastic in the gene
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  Speaker 7: material sooner than the men did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you realize, like that's a great and that's
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  Speaker 4: a great invention.
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  Speaker 7: The right the the right changing room. You purchase the
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  Speaker 7: correct genes, and you did the math from like whatever
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  Speaker 7: the ratio is from a male like thirty two ways
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  Speaker 7: to a woman like eight or ten or six. I
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  Speaker 7: don't know how that works, but you know that's that's
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  Speaker 7: how that happened.
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  Speaker 6: There was a lot of luckies jeans and doing the
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  Speaker 6: math yeah version, yeah version, we're doing that a lot,
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  Speaker 6: I would imagine.
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  Speaker 4: So those were the times. So let's let's talk about
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  Speaker 4: history of a static lullaby. Yeah, I'd love to just
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  Speaker 4: like hear kind of maybe the origin story of you know, like,
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  Speaker 4: how did things get started? How do you guys, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, how did you all get involved in this?
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  Speaker 4: This is maybe where you're like, Nick can go grab
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  Speaker 4: a drink again, because I know he's like brand new,
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  Speaker 4: so but but yeah, for the.
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  Speaker 5: Rest of it, let him answer the whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I loved it. I just love to hear, Yeah, like,
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  Speaker 4: how did this whole thing start for you all? What's
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  Speaker 4: because what's crazy is like you guys have been around
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  Speaker 4: for what is it like almost like like twenty five
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  Speaker 4: years nearly or maybe even over twenty five years, So
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  Speaker 4: it's been a long time, and so I imagine there's
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  Speaker 4: there's some fun story to this, but maybe not. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: maybe it's like you know, the classic light we were
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  Speaker 4: in the high school guys that just wanted to play
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  Speaker 4: together or whatever, but who knows.
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  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I think that's what I'll start off with
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  Speaker 7: something that we never talked about, and the the the
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  Speaker 7: inception started with a band called twelve Step Program.
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  Speaker 5: Oh that's how are you sure?
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  Speaker 4: That was a band that wasn't a place you met?
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  Speaker 7: No, No, that was where my parents were meeting. And
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  Speaker 7: I think that's what I that's where I got the name.
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  Speaker 7: But Dan and I started playing in bands really early
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  Speaker 7: in high school. Freshman year into freshman year, sophomore year.
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  Speaker 7: We did that. He kicked me out of the band.
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  Speaker 5: We went through a lot of stuff happened too much,
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  Speaker 5: too much.
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  Speaker 7: I had not enough twelve steps, like the way I
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  Speaker 7: was crossing my legs. And then I had the most
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  Speaker 7: rager of a party of all time. I think I
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  Speaker 7: was eighteen, nineteen years old something like that, turning nineteen,
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  Speaker 7: turning nineteen, and the whole like a tri county area,
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  Speaker 7: winded up showing up in my house. It was so
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  Speaker 7: like can't hardly wait type of deal. And my band
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  Speaker 7: played and Dan's band played, and then we had some
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  Speaker 7: other like hardcore bands like Hurricane Rana and like Scars
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  Speaker 7: of Tomorrow and a bunch of other bands playing my
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  Speaker 7: house and then take it from there. I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Joe's band at the time, a guitar player was
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  Speaker 6: currently leaving to the Army, and I was having a
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  Speaker 6: falling out with my band due to some other stuff.
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  Speaker 6: And then Joe we kind of we had been best
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  Speaker 6: friends before that, we hadn't really talked in like a
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  Speaker 6: year due to like the falling out of our old
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  Speaker 6: band and what happened there, and he kind of just
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  Speaker 6: came up to me and he's like, hey, man, like
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  Speaker 6: we were hanging out a little bit, we started getting chummy,
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  Speaker 6: maybe having.
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  Speaker 5: Some cigarettes, being cool, and then he.
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  Speaker 6: Just kind of asked me if I wanted to maybe
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  Speaker 6: join the band, and I was like, sure, I'm about
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  Speaker 6: to fall out with my band. And then that's how
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  Speaker 6: it started. And then towards the end of the night
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  Speaker 6: we were talking more and then Joe's like, you know what,
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  Speaker 6: screw it, I want to start a brand new.
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  Speaker 5: Band, like something different.
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  Speaker 6: I want to do this and like Jimmy World mixed
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  Speaker 6: with Poison the Well kind of thing, and we didn't
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  Speaker 6: really know what was going on.
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  Speaker 4: It does sound like the perfect combo.
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  Speaker 5: Just say yeah it was.
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  Speaker 6: That's basically what we were trying to go for, and
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  Speaker 6: everything else is history.
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  Speaker 5: The next day we wrote our first song, and.
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  Speaker 7: We did too. Yeah, I don't think from that point on,
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  Speaker 7: I think Damn and I wrote probably half of the
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  Speaker 7: first record within a week or two.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like a week or two.
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  Speaker 7: It was like every day we have a new song.
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  Speaker 7: I had this book of lyrics, and Dan and I
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  Speaker 7: would just sit down or I would just literally screw
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  Speaker 7: without a PA and him playing without a regular acoustic guitar,
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  Speaker 7: but he was playing his electric guitar without it being amplified,
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  Speaker 7: and me screaming in the freaking garage and putting these
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  Speaker 7: things together and saying, oh, you're going to sing here,
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  Speaker 7: and we're going to do this and uh, and it
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  Speaker 7: all came together really really fast. But we were we
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  Speaker 7: were pretty blessed in in the beginning. We had a
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  Speaker 7: drummer who Brett Denovo, and he's he's out of his mind.
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  Speaker 7: His brain works in different ways. He's like he plays
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  Speaker 7: guitar upside down and and he was just so creative.
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  Speaker 7: And I think drummers really really kind of set the
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  Speaker 7: tone for a band when your first when you're first
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  Speaker 7: writing and putting it together, and he was chaotic and
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  Speaker 7: it really fit kind of the thing we were going
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  Speaker 7: for and uh then we we saw, you know, there
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  Speaker 7: was there was some guys doing some things around Chino Hills,
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  Speaker 7: and we kind of cherry picked really just like okay,
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  Speaker 7: well you're pretty good at what you do over here
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  Speaker 7: in this band, and your band's doing this, and you
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  Speaker 7: got connections, so we'll grab you over here and then
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  Speaker 7: we'll ask you over here. And I think within two
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  Speaker 7: to three weeks we had a full blown band and.
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  Speaker 5: Like three or four songs.
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  Speaker 7: And I think.
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  Speaker 6: Within our first like three weeks to a month, we
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  Speaker 6: had our very first show, which was a we opened
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  Speaker 6: a drive through records night with Finch starting line in
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  Speaker 6: alistair and that was our very first show. And that's
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  Speaker 6: you guys like moved like a Bible college couple.
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  Speaker 5: Holy cow.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 6: That's due to us just like getting the right people
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  Speaker 6: in our band. We got this bass player and he
• 11:40
  Speaker 6: was a young kid. He was like fifteen years old,
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: but we he had like a scot punk band. But
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  Speaker 6: he was really good at like making relationships with labels
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  Speaker 6: and booking agents and he was booking shows for a
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  Speaker 6: bunch of bunch of local bands and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 5: And this kid was like a little.
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  Speaker 6: Mogul at fifteen years old, and yeah, he joined the band.
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  Speaker 6: He loved it, and he just like hit up everyone
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  Speaker 6: that like, this is my new band, like put us
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  Speaker 6: on shows.
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  Speaker 4: Did you between YouTube, especially because obviously you both had
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  Speaker 4: been like in two different bands, did you like kind
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  Speaker 4: of immediately have a sense of, oh, this feels different,
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  Speaker 4: like like in terms of just maybe even like the
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  Speaker 4: hope of yeah, and who knows what you guys had
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  Speaker 4: like for a hope of like oh this could be
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  Speaker 4: a thing, or like maybe this is like the big
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  Speaker 4: break or whatever, but like, did you have a sense
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  Speaker 4: of this at least feels different than the previous bands
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  Speaker 4: you were in?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, oh for sure. Yeah. We we thought it was
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  Speaker 5: like super special.
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  Speaker 6: We didn't think anyone was doing this, and then we
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  Speaker 6: play that show and we find out like, okay, Finch
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  Speaker 6: is like a little bit like this, but not really,
• 12:39
  Speaker 6: you know, they were more like deaft Tones made, you know,
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  Speaker 6: And it's very like subjective at the time, like if
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  Speaker 6: you look at it from like, you know, ten thousand
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  Speaker 6: foot view, now it's like, yeah, it's all kind of
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  Speaker 6: the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: You're doing screaming, singing.
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  Speaker 6: But like back then, it was like, oh, they're more
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  Speaker 6: like Deaf Tones meets Jimmy World now. Yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it was very very much like that. And then I
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  Speaker 6: think we thought it was super special and whatever we
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  Speaker 6: were doing was was super different. And then Joe actually
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  Speaker 6: went on tour with Finch with our demo. He was merched,
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  Speaker 6: he was their merch guy, and like started passing out
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  Speaker 6: our demo everywhere and started finding out like we're not
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  Speaker 6: the only ones doing the shit. You know, was like
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  Speaker 6: taking back Sunday. There's brand new out there. There's Shaw,
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  Speaker 6: Like we didn't know any of these bands.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I came from like a background of like uh, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: Joe and I come from like a like sky core
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  Speaker 6: background and like punk like not necessarily pump punk, but
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  Speaker 6: like lag wagon like no use for a name, Milan Colin,
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  Speaker 6: things like that. And then Joe got more into the
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  Speaker 6: hardcore thing. I got more into like the the emo side,
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  Speaker 6: like the the Jimmy Worlds and the get up kids
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  Speaker 6: and the dashboard outline trio ish stuff, and then we
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  Speaker 6: just kind of met in the middle with all that stuff.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's kind of I mean, I think I always
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  Speaker 7: championed the idea that we were gonna be something right.
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  Speaker 7: I believe that's the second that we started it, you know,
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  Speaker 7: But I think I've been that way my whole life.
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  Speaker 7: I I when I'm about something, I'm about it, and
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  Speaker 7: I have to believe it one hundred percent to dive
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  Speaker 7: into it as crazy as I do, I think. And
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if that's healthy or not healthy, but
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  Speaker 7: I do know that the band probably appreciates that they
• 14:21
  Speaker 7: can bring anything to me and I'm generally gonna be
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  Speaker 7: excited about it and they'll know.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and just a salesman like you could sell you
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  Speaker 6: on yourself in a second. Yeah, he did, like me
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  Speaker 6: get joining with him and then starting this like he
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: was basically selling me to me and my capabilities to
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  Speaker 6: do this, And I'm like, Joe, I haven't written with you.
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  Speaker 6: Interior's like, I don't care. I know you can do this,
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  Speaker 6: Like You're you're the guy that's going to do this.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, whatever, we're doing it, all right,
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  Speaker 6: let's go, and I Yeah, it all just worked out.
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  Speaker 6: It's like very intoxicating when Joe gets like that.
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  Speaker 7: So and I on like some when going out on
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  Speaker 7: tour with Finch and passing out the demo, people were
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  Speaker 7: co signing my beliefs right like there will. There's a
• 15:00
  Speaker 7: lot of somebody saying, you know, this is pretty damn good,
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  Speaker 7: you know, and then that's that's that's neat too. And
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  Speaker 7: it just when you want something bad enough, you get
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  Speaker 7: you get a couple of lucky shots, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: there there's luck in that involved. But I think there
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  Speaker 7: was just one hundred percent belief that totally we were
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  Speaker 7: going to do the damn thing whatever, whatever version of
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  Speaker 7: what that thing was is, we were gonna do it right,
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  Speaker 7: and so.
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  Speaker 4: You all went all in.
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  Speaker 5: I get that, yep.
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  Speaker 2: You I think there was some there was some shade
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  Speaker 2: thrown at Joe for for maybe not being the best
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  Speaker 2: choice for a marriage and family counselor, but he certainly
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: validated what he believed in you.
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  Speaker 5: Right, d Andrew. Yeah, but he's had a lot of divorces.
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  Speaker 2: That just means he's super experienced.
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  Speaker 5: So maybe maybe that makes him qualify.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah that actually when you put that on the resume,
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  Speaker 7: they want some history.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, been, they're done that kind of situation.
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  Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I know what that is. That's what I
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  Speaker 7: told my wife this time around. So I know, you
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  Speaker 7: know I've already I've already been through the ones that
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  Speaker 7: you know just weren't worth my time. That's right, you're it.
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  Speaker 4: So what's really you know, So what's really cool is
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  Speaker 4: so the very first album you guys put out and
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: don't forget to Breathe ends up, like in a lot
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: of ways, just becomes this like really classic album. And obviously,
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: well we'll get to talking about, you know, the recent
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: edition of that in the life of that album, but yeah,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: I'm just curious, Like, you know, obviously you're talking about
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: like some of those early demos and everything, like what uh, yeah,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: what tell us like whatever it is that you want
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: to say, But like, I'm just curious, like what's the
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: story about that album specifically that maybe you want to share,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Like maybe there's a maybe there's a story about that
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: album that you haven't shared before publicly. Maybe there's a
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: story about it that you're like, oh, we have to
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: always share this, But I'm just curious, like what's the
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: story around that album? I don't know, maybe it makes
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: it feel like a classic or maybe makes it exciting
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: to you still.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: I just think the recording experience was was pretty intense.
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: Steve at the time was like Steve was Steve Evats
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: was Ross Robinson's engineer and kind of learned the way
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: that Ross Robinson worked with, like, you know, bands like Olympus,
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: K Glasshow's slipnot like to get performances out of him
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: like channel something, you know, what's the song about? You know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: kind of going into the psychology of the song. What's
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: the song about? And there's a there's a song on
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: the record about a specific love interest of mine and
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: some things that went down with that. And then he's like, yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: bring in if you have pictures of her, like bring in,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: bring in pictures when you when you sing that song,
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: dang well post them off. Like just things like that,
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: you know, to really like try to try to inside
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: a reaction or some kind of emotional bond to that
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: song when you're tracking it. So that kind of stuff
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: was really cool to kind of see the psychological stuff.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: And that's that's kind of part the part of recording
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: that I enjoy is like the psychological stuff I learned
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: from Steve how to like kind of i'm stuck on
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: a guitar part, like stand up, you know, turn away
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: from the monitor, like try try something different and just
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: pick it. Pick a little different, try try something like
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: this just to see if it works.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Try therapy.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: It's yeah, that's that's something that try therapy.
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: No try try Yeah, yeah, that's that's really the therapy.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: We don't need any other therapy than other than a
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: few downstrokes.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah. That that's pretty much what it was.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Like, I don't know, now I'm the king of downstreams,
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: you are, so.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: I think for me recording that record, I mean, like
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: Dan said, Steve put me in some really precarious situations
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: trying to record because at the time I was really struggling.
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: I was sick and I had lost my voice completely,
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: like like I was really really like not able to
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: do what I normally do or feel comfortable doing. And
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: I'm never one hundred percent comfortable in the studio, so
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: that was tough, and he would he would put me
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: through a lot to get the right performance out to
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: really capture it on record. And I think that he did.
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: I know for a fact that we were up against
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: it with some money constraints and where we're recording and
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: how we were recording it because in time we were
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: in New Jersey and we're from California. But I do
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: think that that was the most formative time for us.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: I think it made us. I think, like you mature.
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: You matured so much within those two or three weeks
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: and really being able to put yourself in a position
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: to be a full time touring band, to make new music,
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: to understand what it is to be in the game,
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: and and learn all that. It was a very very
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: short period of time and it made us grow tremendously
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: within in that period of time too.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So well, and if we can skip forward to the
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: modern day just for a moment at the very least, Uh,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: that's one of the best live recordings of an album
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I've ever heard my life.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, thank you to appreciate it, mostly because of Chris
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: and Nick.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yeah, it's obviously.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it was great back in two thousand and three,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: but like I mean, come up.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Do you mean Kyler as well?
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: Or sorry?
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry.
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: Chris but just refuses to do interviews because he's too
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: busy at the dog rumors I guess.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, he owns a chain of dog dog dog
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: grooming slash brewery, mobile brewery.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah. They sound like drunk get your dog drunk
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: crap ears onke Guraders.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sounds like a millennial.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: That's oldest millennial. No, but thank you. In regard to
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: saying that about the new album, I.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: I think we surprised ourselves, to be honest.
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's so insane. I if I could share
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: something really really quick. Somebody wrote something, and I have
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: a hard time responding to everybody's messages, but this guy
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: wrote something that it was really really freaking sweet. Hold on,
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: hey goes. I mean it's similar and I don't want
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: to interrupt, but I don't even know if you guys
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: check these restig its. Just want to let you know
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: how freaking incredible the live record is. You took something
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: that is special to so many people and you added
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: to its legacy. The intensity, the subtle differences balance with
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: the absolute respect you showed the original record makes this perfect.
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: I don't know how I missed it that it came out,
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: but I've been rocking it loud all day. Takes me
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: back and gives me the freaking chills. Love you dudes,
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: So glad you are back. Heck, yeah, so that was
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: me bleeping myself. But so when I hear things like that,
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: it's kind of crazy. It takes me back to when
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: we first made the album, not us re recording it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: It takes me back to how special the time it
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: was and us just paying homage to it, right, to
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: reintroduce this back to people that it meant something to
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: And I think that's the biggest part of it.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: That makes sense to me. Yeah, that's that's evident too.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: When you listen, it's clear that you know it still
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: mean something to you guys too, or maybe it means
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: something for you for the first time, like Kyler and
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: it's it's new.
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: It was like it was like, oh, maybe for the
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: first time. That's true too. That's that's kind of crazy.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: I never I never put that into perspective. Maybe everything
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: was such a blurback then then you didn't think about it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: You were just playing your songs that you recorded, right, yeah, right, yeah, And.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Well and what you what you wrote back then means
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: something completely different now, I'm sure.
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I could put myself exactly in the place where
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: I was when I was writing that stuff and I
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: was telling another interview. I had to google my own lyrics.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: It's kind of crazy. But Google's not write one hundred
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: percent on the lyrics that I wrote either, So I
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: had to like edit them and because I'm sending it
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: over to the label for the track listings and everything,
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: and it would put me right back to this second
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: and the place that I was, and I remember writing
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: the words down on you know, on paper and scribbling,
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: and what I was drinking, and what kind of state
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: I was in when I was doing and what I
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: was thinking about, what movie was on the TV, and
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: what Dan was doing in the background. Like it is
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: so crazy to relive all that stuff. Well, yeah, so
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: it was. It was so so fun.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: So for Nick and Kyler, like I'm curious, like because
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you guys have been you know, you you basically come
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: along like twenty three, twenty four years later, like what
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I'm curious Like for you guys, like, uh, and you
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: think about the legacy of this album, Like, I mean,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: is this something where you're just like I'm just trying
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: to like be a part of it and that's it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Or do you feel like, uh, in the way that
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: this fan even mentioned like you're adding to the legacy
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: of this album. Did you have a sense of that
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: when you're especially when you're when you're doing this album
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: and when you think about like being a part of
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: this band now yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: I mean, when I'm playing these guitar parts that Nate wrote,
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: which are great, I'm playing them differently than he would
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: have played them, right, So in a way, I'm getting
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: to put my own kind of spin on it because
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: I played them differently than he would have played them.
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: And I mean, I am very honored that I get
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: to leave my kind of my own little stamp. I
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: guess on this legacy that this album has, you know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: I know it means a lot of people, and I'm
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: just I'm happy to be able to be a part
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: of that for them.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: I like that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: For me, I mean, I didn't think about the meta
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: too much. Like the meta, I don't think that. I.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I'm sure Mark Zuckerberg thought a lot about you, so
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: that feels a little a.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Year pen pals.
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: He sends me a billion dollars every couple of days. No,
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: but I don't think I. I just wanted to play
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: it as close to the original as possible. In a
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: lot of ways, I didn't want to. I don't think
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: I took away anything from the energy of the original
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: parts and the backup vocals that I did. I was
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: just trying to do the best I could and play
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: the parts you know as written. But when I you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: when I sit back and think about it, yeah, it's
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: pretty cool that I I get to have my name
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: on this, you know, this record that's going to go
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: down in history.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Is you know, a really good live recording. Yeah, pretty
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: stoked on it for sure.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Was it something? What was this album for both of you?
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: And obviously it's totally fine if you don't unless you
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: want to have a band fight. But was this an
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: album for both of you that you felt like as
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: you were growing up you were you were like, oh,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: this is like important to me, you know, Like I
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: think about that for like some of the albums that
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: you know shaped me and influenced me as a human.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: And if I ever had the chance to like do
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: something like what you guys did, I would feel like, Wow,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: I get to be a part of this. Like I remember,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: maybe it was like sometime last year we interviewed.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm blanking on his name right now.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: The the he's.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: The new singer for Amberlyn and also sings for Mullens. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Matt Matti Mullens. I don't know why I'm blanking on
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: his name in the moment. But like, you know, Maddie,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: like he was talking about when I like was chatting
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: with him about doing this re recording of Never Take
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Friendship Personal and also obviously doing that that album liveh
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: You know, he talks about how like that was an
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: album for him as a kid, was like so important
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: for him as he was like growing up, you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: and like learning to be a musician, and and so
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: like he talks about just like it was such an
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: honor to like be able to like now be a
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: part of this part of its history. So I'm curious
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: for you guys. And again, like you know, maybe he
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: didn't even know about this album at that point, but
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just curious, like, was this an album for you
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: that like helped shape you as a musician? Like how
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: does how does the fact that this album was pretty
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: legendary in the scene at that time impact Like maybe
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: the way you relate to it now, given the fact
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: that you get to contribute to it, I.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: Can say something about that. So we would never hire
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: anyone in our band that's a fan of our band.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: That's interesting kind of kind of like it's kind of
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: always been that way, and it kind of gives us
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: our edge like it kind of gives like any every
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: new like lineup will have a fresh new take on
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: like this style of music, because like I know, this
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: isn't Kyler's preferred style of music.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: Nick, I'm not sure. I think Nix Moore I definitely
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: post hardcore.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: I grew up post hardcore. But I mean I'll say
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: like I was aware of it, you know, but it wasn't. Sorry,
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: I was aware of it, but it wasn't like one
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: of the albums that I would say shaped me.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: No, Okay, yeah, yeah, I I wasn't aware of this album.
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: I heard some songs off of Hang Them High, and
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: I obviously heard Toxic.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I love Britney Spears too, self titled.
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: I heard Hang Them High off.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was telling him that he Kyler found us
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: off of a off of a video game. Nick did too, Yeah, they.
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: Well, I had heard this song playing that game growing up,
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: and I didn't even put two and two together until
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: we had that interview.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I was like, holy crap, you're.
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: Right, what is on that game?
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Was that?
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: So?
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: There was a driving game too that was like one
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: of the last out m games.
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: Flat out that that that the static gold Boy song
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: is on I played the other one, but I I
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: you know, I thought that was a trip.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: But I'll tell you that playing that live record and
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: playing with these guys is absolutely transforming as a musician.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: M for sure. H So when when you think back
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: to me, this work for for Dan and Joe, but
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: like when you think back to this album almost twenty
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: five years later, and you think back to that scene,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: and you think back to uh, you know, that time
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: and place and like where we're at music now, you know,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I would imagine like for you guys, especially with like
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: maybe some of the bands you guys were coming up
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: and playing shows with and and some of the legendary
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: albums that a lot of those bands have put out.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: I'm just curious, like, how do you think about this
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: album that many years later, Like it's kind of like
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: it's it's it is as long ago as like when
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: when you guys first put that album out that like
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: you know something like I don't know like whatever eighties
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: album was coming out at that point, Like that's that's
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: how far removed we are from that album as we
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: were back when that album came out from some eighties album.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: So I'm just like curious, like when you think to
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: potentially it's legacy, like like is it something I'm sure
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: you guys are proud of it, but like do you
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: ever like think about like oh yeah, like we we
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: like placed like we like we made a stamp into
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: this like or maybe not. Like I'm just curious, like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: how do you think about Okay, I was a part
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: of this like twenty five almost twenty five years ago,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: and now I've made uh maybe made the stamp or
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: maybe haven't. I'm just curious, like, how do you think
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: about it now?
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: I don't know I when I I guess I could
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: just talk about maybe not the album itself, but I
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: could I could say how I referenced myself previous to
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: our hiatus and even after it was like I compare
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: myself to like a major league baseball player, right, like
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: I say, you know, I'm I. It's like I played
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: major league ball. You know it might have been I
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: was in Triple A and I got called up for
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: a couple of reliefs in you know, the big time,
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: and you know we I was able to, you know,
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: pitch the seventh inning at Yankee Stadium a couple like that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Gave up a couple of home runs, to Berry Vonn's beginning.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: Right, yeah, whatever it is like the that that's how
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: I compare it. But I think too there was there
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: was a lot of a bit of an identity c thing,
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: me separating myself from the band and then coming back
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: to it. So I definitely believe that the record itself,
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: that and Don't Forget to Breathe Is should be on
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: everybody's list of you know, you know, top one hundred
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: albums to influence you know, the post hardcore scene of
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: the early two thousands, right, Like if there was that
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: list and AP made it or whatever, it should be
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: on there. And because it really was like I lived
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: that time, I know what was happening, you know what
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: I mean? And you know, it's like it's so funny.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: I think about when I first heard the Used record,
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: and I remember there's a Blindside poster on the wall
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: right there, okay, and Blindside had just like pitiful was
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: like one of the best songs I ever heard in
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: my life. I just thought like that was everything, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: the record wasn't even out yet, yeah, right, And the
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: record was not even out yet, But I remember, I
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: remember how I felt at that time, and then I
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: remember looking back a year after it was released, and
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: where we were so and where we were our trajectory.
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: It just it went from this to that, you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: and it was kind of crazy, like you know, you're
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: you're you're doing things like main stage Tastes of Chaos,
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: your your you know, your headline tours, you're playing with
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: all these other people, and you're being talked about in
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: the same realm. So I can go back and remember
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: what that was was, like I really can.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just amazing, like howe life took
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: you into that place. And again, like you guys were
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: talking about how before before a static glow by, like
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: you're in these two other bands and like you know
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: again like maybe you had your own trajectories for that,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: but the fact that like you just like you met
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: each other at this time and start writing writing music
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: together and then it just like create, it just like
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: spawns into this whole thing. And here you are over
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: twenty five years later, and you're still like you're still connected,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: uh and you're still you know obviously you're you're playing
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: the live album and it's just it's to me, it's
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: like amazing, Like it's a testament of like how powerful
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: the music is when music, like music is that powerful
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: that it can like create those kind of lasting relationships,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: you know what. You know, obviously it's been a long
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: time since you've made new music. But the fact that
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: like music from twenty five years ago, a quarter of
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: a century ago, can can still like hold you together
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: in such deep relationship, I think it is like a
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: really powerful testament to how powerful that music is.
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this, this and Dan Dan's might write or I
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: and you know, like, there's no it's hard to explain
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: if you if you've had a friend where I cannot
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: talk to this man literally for ten years, and if
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: you put us alone in a garage at twelve o'clock
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: at night with some beers, it's over, dude, Like it
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: will just pick up like that, you know what. And
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: our writing relationship is pretty much the exact same way.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: We just it's there. I think the most special part
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: about Static law By is the relationship that we have,
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: and I think it is is pretty awesome that I
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: think we use the band as an excuse to hang
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: out with each other too, you know what I mean,
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: it's our therapy. I don't make music to think about
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: what legacy I left. I make music honestly to feel
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: happy about what I'm making. I love music, and sometimes
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: my band makes exactly what I imagine hearing and that
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: is the coolest thing in the world. And whether that
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: was in Don't Forget to Breathe was Rattlesnake or the
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: new songs that we're writing now, I generally am in
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: a place where we're writing exactly what I want to hear.
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: And there's no better thing for a human being who
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: loves music than to be able to make your own
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: you know, yeah, I think that's what we do.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Love it, love it well. I'd love to talk a
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: little bit about you know, obviously there's the live album,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: and obviously that's like incredible in its own right. I'm
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: just curious, and you know, you definitely don't have to
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: share what you don't want to share, But is there
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: any possibility of like new music on the horizons with
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: the tackle lah blah bye? You know, we interview a
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: lot of bands where you know, maybe haven't done something
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: for a long time, and then all of a sudden,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: like there's this like energy to create something new, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: so I don't know if is that a part of
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: this story for you all? And obviously again, share only
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: what you want to share, But I'm just curious if
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: if that's a possibility on the horizon.
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the live albums, the red carpet, that's all. It is. Great,
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: it's we're rolling this thing out and we we have.
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: We actually recorded our new songs before we recorded the
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: live album, so we we wanted to we wanted to
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: reignite the fan base with something that they were familiar with,
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: right and just instead of take this thing that we're
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: doing now that we believe in that somebody might say,
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: what the heck are those guys doing? You know, they oh,
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: they're just going to release a song, you know, and
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: then put that into the ether and see what it does.
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: I thought we owed it to our fans to say hello,
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: let them know where we are, you know, by doing
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: these interviews, by doing our podcast, telling them who we
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: are as humans and where we're at in our life today.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: Because like you said, it's been twenty five years a half,
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: is it, I mean a quarter of a century to
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: this point where we're actually going to release new music.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: And that's the stuff that we're actually really really excited about,
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: is to share new music and you know, to pull
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: back the curtain a little bit. We we are setting
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: we are actually in the process of setting up a
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: schedule to have.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Our first release here preson Heck, yeah, that's awesome.
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think the you know what I think
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: that Dan and Nick and Kyler can elaborate on is
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: is probably more about where we're at as you know,
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: songwriters today and how the process has been going, and
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: and to have the new guys involved, and you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: I think that that's that's probably one of the most
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: special moments, is that we're all clicking so so well,
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: and that the music actually is something that I don't
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: believe is going to cheat anybody for one second. I
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: believe that it is. So it is so spot on
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: for for anybody that loved us from album one, to
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: anybody that loved us from you know, album four, and
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: and to to get it here today, to think about
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: being able to release this and and share it with everybody,
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: I'm freaking excited.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: So that's awesome. Yeah.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: I think naturally, the songwriting is kind of like with
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: newer stuff, it's kind of picking up where we left off,
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Like with Rattlesnake, you know, not every song was the same.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: There's kind of like that southern rock vibe in that record,
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: and we.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Have a lot of that still.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: I think that for me, that's kind of like my
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: favorite type of thing to play that I learned after
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: we wrote Rattlesnake. It's like I love just riffing like
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: crazy on guitar and crazy riffs. Yeah, Like it's not
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: something I ever did before. I was very structured in
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: all about the songwriting the first three records especially and Rattlesnake,
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: I just kind of like said, fuck.
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: It, Like.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Oh sorry, they're they're passing cups back and forth.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I think I think it's really easy for
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: me to fall back into that Rattlesnake type songwriting. But
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to make a conscious effort to kind of
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: dig deeper and go further back into my songwriting.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: As well, to like get a nice blend.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: And maybe not like with every not in like within
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: one song, but like different songs. Like I we've never
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: been afraid to have like different feels of the songs
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: like throughout the record. Like this song is gonna be
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: you know, a total like I don't know, a triplet
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: filled like weird shuffle song. This one's gonna be like
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: Southern rocky. This one's gonna be very like soft with
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: clean parts, like we're never afraid to do that, and
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: I think we're gonna We're gonna do a lot more
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: of that and like experiment and maybe not everything makes
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: the mikes the cup, but I'm just gonna keep trying
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: to like harness all those eras of a static law.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: By to see what we can deliver on.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I will I will say, especially when it comes to
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: like post hardcore. One thing I've really missed, Uh. I
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: think maybe like some bands were like kind of playing
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: around with us for for a time, was that southern
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: rock sound, uh, specifically within post hardcore. Like it just
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: like there was maybe a little moment where that was
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: kind of like a little you got a little taste
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: of that and it just kind of fell off. And
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: there's still really great post hardcore, don't don't get me wrong,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: but like that kind of like southern that that sort
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: of Southern rock influence. You don't hear that as much.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: And I love the groove that southern rock like creates.
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: That's it's a groove in the riff, right, Like I
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: think it it's something that we're definitely not straying away
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: from It's not something that we're not doing now, so but.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: I'm definitely trying to be conscious of it these days,
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Like I don't want to just do the one thing.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Like we could do those songs all day and write
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: a ton of those songs, but it gets a little
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: stale because even with Rattlesnake, like there were four, maybe five,
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: four of those songs, and like it was very like
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: I think for us and our new record and having
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: those four songs on the record, it was like very
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: overwhelming to like people kind of thought that's like what
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: we were.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Now It's like, no, listen to the rest.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: There's a whole other, like portion of the record that's
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: like not that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: But some of.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: Those songs are straight punk. They're just pissed off punk rock.
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: And then you're like, dude, and because Rattlesnake comes in
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: and it's got you know, and it's riff heavy, like
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: you know, I guess maybe bear Trap too.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think I think that's what's special about it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: And don't forget to Breathe, Like it did have a
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: certain sound, specific sound, but it also did set like
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: a canvas of like what we're able to do as
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: this band without straying away from being this band.
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we told everybody we're not even afraid of fucking
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: ruining our own career by releasing Fossilatito. We'll write whatever
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: we want.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I will say, like one thing, that one thing I've
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: always loved about post hardcore, and I think like maybe
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: the best post hardcore bands have done this is they
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: can like there there's kind of this not accessibility, that's
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: not the right word. There's a flexibility in the sound
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: where you can kind of go in a lot of
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: different ways and it makes sense. And like you like,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: let's say you like, let's say you make the most
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: classic post hardcore album. You know, let's say it's something
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: like something from Thursday, right like uh, you know, let's
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: say it's like full Collapse Thursday. But then like Thursday
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: could have gone gone more hardcore, and there were some
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: bands similar to Thursday that did that, And then there's
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: like bands that go more like emo or like softer
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: or whatever it is that you would describe it as,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: or even like most more post hardcore, which is like
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: what even like Hopesfaul did at some point. Like there's
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: just so many routes that you can kind of take
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: and it still kind of makes sense for that band's sound.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: And so there's just this like variability within post hardcore
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: that I've always loved and it's why it's probably my
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: favorite genre of music. Is you can just do a
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: you can go a lot of different places with it
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: in especially in the alternate music scene.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: And I think I think like with the the development
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: of like the post hardcore sound, not to say that,
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: you know, like we were pioneers or anything, but like
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: of that early two thousands, like everyone was conscious of
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: what it was. It was a mashup. It was like
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: the thing. So it's like that's how it began. It
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: started as a mashup of styles, you know, so like
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: it just became more and more of a mashup, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: like a lot of bands lean more towards like the
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: pop punk side. There's like Data, remember, who are heavy
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: as hell, but they like lean towards like a pop
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: punk sense. It totally as well, And it's like you
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: can just do so much and I think like having
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: all that out there is only is only good for
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: every other band because you can you can experiment, like
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: I want everyone to hear what Joe sounds like over.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: A pop punk song.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: It's cool, like we can do that and we will
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: do that, and we have we have done that kind
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: of you know. But yeah, the possibilities are endless and
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: it's really fun to like not be afraid, especially in
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: old age. Like I don't give a shit. I'm like,
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: get off my lawn, all right, what I want. But
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: at the same time, I do care about the the
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: legacy of our band, so like, I'm not going to
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: do anyone dirty. But if something's good, something's good it
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: And you know, I feel like I've been in this
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: band long enough to know.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: What what will fit. So yeah, it's really fun.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm a big fan of the southern rock,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: uh sort of element to it, because again that's just
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: like something you don't hear a lot in that world.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: And uh, there's just like there's so much, there's so
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: much that could be gained from it, I think.
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that's like and grain. So it's
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: always gonna come through with everything I play. But we
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: got a few songs just for you.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Love it, just love.
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, You're you're gonna be really happy with the new stuff.
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: You're good, love it, love it.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Should we get into uh top records, top most influential records?
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: I should say, hmm, let's do it.
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: Can can you guys give me some guardrails on this thing.
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: Most influential records of the band or just you as
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: a general, you as an individual, like just you in general,
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: like what made you?
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what we'll do you will do a musician.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be to each So there will be eight total,
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: eight total albums unless there's any repeat.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: So they're not necessarily your they're not necessarily your favorite.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: They're the most influential to you as an individule.
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, heard, thank you for giving me that, guy.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'll go first. Actually, Nick, you go first.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Nick, this is really hard and I'm gonna be
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: listening to something later and I'll be like, wow, I
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: said the wrong thing.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: Well, just think about when you're coming up playing guitar,
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: like what unlocked the door for you?
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: No, I know, I know, but not even just playing guitar.
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: But just so. Number one is Thrice visu Oh, just
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: the first album from them where they kind of started
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: experimenting with other stuff. I know, they kind of went
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: a little more wild lately, I mean later on, but
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: that was the first one where they kind of branched
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: out from just the post hardcore thing. And I think
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: in the same vein the other album for me would
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: be Radiohead kid A, where that's the first album that
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: they really stepped away from doing what they were doing before,
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: and I think like those moments of experimentation really like
• 47:15
  Speaker 8: make me think, Wow, I could think outside the box too,
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: you know.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: I often say kid A is Radiohead's best album. It's
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: not their most influential, and it's not even my favorite album,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: but I do think.
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: It's their mine either. But yeah, I definitely think it's
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: their most you know, I agree.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: I'm with you on that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I think, you know, I think at
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: this point, like Thrice has released so much out there,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: you know, and they've had so many good albums where
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: they probably do have like their influential album, they've got
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: their best album, and then you've got like the fan
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: favorite album, and they're just like each one of those
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: could be different, and so Thrice and and Radiohead feel
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: like one of those like two different bands that can
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: kind of like you've got like a fan favorite, you've
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: got an influential and you got the best and they
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: could all be different.
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: Great pics? Great?
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: What answer?
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: I can't talk ship about those?
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: Huh Yeah, I'm not gonna talk.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Just kidding, yea, who's gonna yeah, who's gonna mention All
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Star by smash Mouth that I was just I'm just waiting.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: The whole Shreks soundtrack talk?
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: Do you have a whole that thing?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: Kid, I used to be my like sleep music forever.
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: I would fall asleep to kid, everything in its right
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: place and then like wake up in a panic when
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: national anthems.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: It was nice. It was nice.
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: I timed it like right with like my night sweats
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: and my anxiety.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: My panic attacks. It was perfect. Do you want to
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: go next?
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: So you lean in.
• 48:56
  Speaker 9: Like trying to think of like when I went through
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: musical puberty.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Hopefully it was less. Hopefully it was less worse than
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: the physical puberty.
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: No, they were about his physical puberty, probably hurt, he
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: got growing pains. Watch out.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: Don't ignore everything that was just said. Yeah, I didn't
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: listen to much music growing up. Ahead.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: I hate you guys.
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: They're obsessed with a certain body part of mine.
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: We keep talking about Kyler's junk I don't know why
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: it's so weird.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: Wow, all right, he.
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: Wore some sweat shorts to the airport, and we're like, oh,
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: we get it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: Okay, we get it.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: So we've all we've all got a friend like that.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: We've all got a friend.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: You all. You all suddenly realized what he was dealing with,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: and what you were dealing with is what you're saying.
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know. Well, he wasn't wearing underwear.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure. I was like, that's a choice.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: Come on, like, that's he's just like on an airplane
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: where you have to Like Tyler was just waiting for.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: To pat him down.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: To get through the aisle, trying to get to the bath.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: All right, someone got a black eye when I reached
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: up to carry on.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Kyler, you're in the wrong profession.
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: But I don't know. All right, So what's your favorite records?
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: Frick you guys?
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go.
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: Your records Bleach by Nirvana and Undercurrent by Bill Evans.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Undercurrent Undercurrent by Bill Evans record, Yeah dog, okay, killer record.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: That's the first Bill Evans we've had on here, which
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: is that might be a surprise.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: That may be the first Bleach from Nirvana.
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: Obviously we know we've had We've had Bleach like three
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: or four times.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 50:59
  Speaker 9: That I didn't listen to much music growing up, and
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: my uncle showed me that. And I remember going home
• 51:04
  Speaker 9: after we stayed at their house and pirated the whole
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: last thing and I put it on my zoom and
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: listened to a NonStop Oh.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: You are totally a zoom kid, weren't you.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: We couldn't afford to look at it.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Look at them. You know what they say about people
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: with big dicks, right, they.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Got phased out by iPod. All right, great, two great albums,
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: all right, Dan and Joe.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: All right, I'll go.
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: I was thinking about this today, actually, like what were
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: the two records where I like really started to dive in,
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: like really listen to music and like be surprised and
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: like just like completely encapsulated by what they were doing.
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: And I think the first one where I started to
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: listen closely and actually like try and learn some advanced
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: stuff was Propagandhi how to Clean Everything.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Oh boy, Okay, that record.
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: By one of the songs came on on like shuffle
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: for me today and I was like, what the hell dude,
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: this record was like everything to me at one point,
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: and that and I think trashed by Lagwagon, Like I
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: still listen to that record religiously, Like that record is
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: insane to me.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: We've had a lot of Ladwagon on here recently.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: I feel like that was like that was part of
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: this whole thing. Man, you had to like Lagwagon, especially
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: if you're gonna be a good band, you had to
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: like Flagwagon because they're great.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I always like associate lag Wagon and maybe
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: like it's a totally different scene, but I always associate
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: them with like Operation Ivy. Like does that feel fair
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: at all?
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: All right, yep, I don't know why, but like Operation
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: Ivy is one of my favorite bands, and I know
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: that's on Joe's list here, right, Yeah, that's yeah, it's
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: on my list too, But I gave it to Joe.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, like you and pretty much everyone else who
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: was in a band that started in the late nineties
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: probably had.
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: No I think my two are it's got to be
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: Operation Ivy. There's there's no ifans or butts about it.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: They honestly, they feel like the nineties version of Velvet Underground.
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good point. The funny thing is there
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: was a band called Slapstick and they're a scott punk band.
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: And there's a band called Link eighty and they I
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: remember really being into these bands because of Operation IVY,
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: but I think it picked up for me right after
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: that was like it had to have been Rancid, It
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: had to have been Rancid after that. I think Operation
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: IVY and Rancid were the two most formative things for
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: me at thirteen, fourteen years old, twelve years old, and
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: what I was listening to at that time Tim armstrong Man,
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: I know, it's probably it's it's probably that. Yeah. Outside
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: of that, I don't know. I think about like I
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: would fall in love with record labels, I would fall
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: in love with Epitaph, or I'd fall in love with
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: Hopeless Records, or I'd fall in love with Asian Man Records,
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: or I'd fall in love And I was pretty true
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: to that, and that even lasted all the way up
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: till we were eighteen nineteen, seventeen years old. Like after Vagrant,
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: Vagrant Records was anything that they were putting out, I
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: was about it, and Vagrant felt as close to me
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: as the early like Hopeless and the Epitaph and the
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: Fearless Records and the Fat Records and any of that stuff.
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: Vagrant was the closest, So it was probably Bigerant and
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: Drive Through who were releasing the most.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I miss those days where like record labels were
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: like cool to like, like you have.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: A record label, ye sweater?
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, rock Asian man record sweaters. Everyone had fat record sweaters.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: Like that's not that's not gonna happen anymore.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, crazy.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Honestly the closest for that, I mean Cold and
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: I grew up in like the Tooth and Nail solid
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: state scene, so obviously those were like the two record
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: labels that were huge for us. But I will say,
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: like for me, the modern day like the closest, and
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: it's not even really that it's not in the same
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: way that it was back then, But the closest that
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: I have to that now is Death Wish. Like anything
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: that Death Wish puts out, like Jacob Bannon and Death Wish,
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: I just like fucking love. It's just the best. So
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: that's like the.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: Closest, you know.
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: There's like, yeah, there's like converge lore there though, and
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: there's like so that come like I feel like it's
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: it was weirder back then because they were just record labels,
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: right exactly exactly. They're just record labels putting out bands,
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: and like sometimes you get into the record label before
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: you even heard any the bands they're putting out, Like, yeah,
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: it was really weird.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: It's just the way things were marketed, and like street
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: teams and like street teams were passing out compilations or
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: whatever it is.
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: I've took me down another rabbit hole Convergon cave in bro.
• 56:14
  Speaker 7: Like that's life change.
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: For me for sure.
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: Sorry, Yeah, I'm like until the heart stops, let me
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: have it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: Good.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Some great picks, great picks I love. I mean all
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: of those bands, incredible bands. I honestly can here like
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: each one for each one of you. Like all of
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: those bands, all those albums, you can hear a little
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: bit of that, uh, whether it's in static lullaby or
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: even like I would imagine like some of the new
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: stuff you guys are doing, Like there's just a little
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: bit of it that you can hear in all of it,
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: which is is so important And I think that's like
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: what's really cool about music is you know you you
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: hear you know some of these early influences or even
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: like later influences, and you're just like, oh yeah, like
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: that's something I would love to do, and you like
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: create your own version of that. And I think that's
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: the beauty of music is it inspires you to like
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: try to create, like what is your own version of that?
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: I just think that's really cool any piece of art,
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: but especially music.
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, And I think I think, you know,
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: I'm still always chasing that, like do I make propagandhi
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: proud you know this riff make pan? Like I chase
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: that on the day to day basis when I write
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: a song, Like, for sure, I wonder what so and
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: so would think about this riff or what would so
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: and so do with this riff if this was something
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: they were presented, Like what would be a flair that
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: they would add to it? Like of course, like inspirations
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: are inspirations, and like you're going to you're going to
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: like learn and mimic those at.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: Times, you know. So yeah, it's it's so much fun.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: Music's fun. It's just a lot of Yeah, music is fun.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Love that, love that, Well, what do you guys want
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: to plug? Obviously the live album. People can get that. Yeah,
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Like I don't like obviously sounds like new music's coming
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: down the pipeline. Other shows. Yeah, I'm just curious, like,
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: what do you all want to plug?
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we got our podcast. We've been on a hiatus
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: because we had the live album. We were doing some recording,
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: we did some touring, so we were on We've been
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: on like a two and a half month three months,
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: I don't know, a couple, couple.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been.
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: We've been piecing together greatest hits already of our first
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: six episodes or whatever. But yeah, we got our podcast
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: called Good Guys, Bad Band GGBBE channel.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on our YouTube.
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: We we did have a Patreon, but now we're putting
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: it all on YouTube because having.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: To pay subscriptions and all that nonsense.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Joe's got I'm sure you have more to plug
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: your more in the in the email loop with all
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: the things.
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we got some shows coming up with I Promise
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: the World.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: I literally just told Cullen about them the other day
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, they're so crazy talented. Yeah, I feel
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: like as I'm like, I'm hoping that they're just so good.
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: I think they're blowing up, so I think I think
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: they're doing it. So the seem to really kind of
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: give two fucks about that band, and that's awesome. So
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: we got those shows coming up and we're so we're
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: we're stoked to be playing those. It's gonna be San
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: fran and La. You're going to have Rattlesnake come out
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: on vinyl. Heck yeah, We're going to be releasing new songs.
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: I believe the first single will probably drop before Rattlesnake
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: is out, So we'll probably have a new song before Rattlesnake.
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: If if I'm a betting man, and ye'll be yeah
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: this year sometime. You know where we are really invested
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: into our podcast, just because it is our therapy. It's
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: it's our time to just you know, bounce off each
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: other and have fun and talk about music and talk
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: about reminiscing about the band. I think of that. H Balloons, balloons,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: what kind of balloons? Yeah?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Joe's working on an invention because we all
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: have we have kids and like you know how you
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: always like balloons pop you lose balloons, So.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: No, you don't want the mill because okay, fine.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: He's working on balluminum. So they're like aluminum balloons, so
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: you never lose them. They don't pop, they don't fly away. Whoa,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: it's been in development, but they still float.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's balluminum.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: Oh that's it's like, is this like the is it
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: that you like the balloon? Like yeah, but that's I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: mean he.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: Give too much.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 9: There's the quantum mechanics of it all. The craziest per
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: what's the max temperature twenty kelvin?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: Wow, four hundred kevin he meant to say, and you
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: can still hold liquid in in the aluminum.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, as a canteen as well as that what we're doing.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Like, are you hoping this like funds the mand Like
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: what what's the purpose of this, like other.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: Than you for the kids?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know side squirll you know you need
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: you need to trying to get rich combine and I
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: think we have what twenty eight kids.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: So we have a lot of birthday parties.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of kids. Yeah, a divorces.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: Imagine the imagine the balloon count.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, especially when they start getting up in age.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, more balloons, way more ballooning budget. It was something
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: we were worried about. We're like let's you know, Joe
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 9: was like, what if he came up with I don't know,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 9: bull and then Dan and Joe said balluminum the exact
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 9: same time.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was so cool.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Balluminum is such a great name, you know, it's I
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: feel like it has the it has the potential to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: like take over the industry as like the name kind
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: of like how cleenx. Everyone knows Alex economics, you know, yeah, exactly, yes, yeah,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: so all the imitators will still be called balloons, you.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: Know, at the very at the very least, Like you know,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: if if a static lullb it doesn't work out, at
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: least you guys can transition to a boy band and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: then release an album called Aluminum and then, uh, you know,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: maybe that goes multimum.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, extra strength.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Here's here's here's a good question. You know, you know
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: when you rub a balloon, a rubber balloon on your
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: head and it creates static.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, you won't have that anymore.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: No, son of a bitch, I want to have a
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: static rubbing my bolluminum on my head.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: We come from post hardcore where we don't want our
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: hair messed up, so.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: That ship, you know, Colin usually calls those a static
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: lullaby too. You know when he's like rubbing something out,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: you know, whether it's on his head, you know what,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: what you know, regardless part of his body and rubbing
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: out of my head, you know what, whatever, whatever head
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: it is on his body and he's running.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: He was a part of our conversation before the podcast.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I wear underwear though. It's okay, Kyler, that's good.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: That's why I get statically right.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's why he was referring to you.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Didn't have to say, yeah, Kyler knows. Kyler knows right.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: Colon keeps his underneath the desk, Bro, He's fine.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, it sounds it sounds like Kyler is
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: not able to, like physically unable.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: No, he's not. That thing will eclipse the sun.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: WHOA, all right, Well, we'll make sure I like grab
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: my goggles next time we Skyler.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: We call him Skyler, call him what dolar Donglerler, Jeffrey Donngler,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Donler.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the doer.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: It eats people.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: All right, guys, Well you all have been the best.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: Thanks for chatting more about stock aesthetic lullaby. It's just
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: incredible that we are able to, like, you know, chat
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: with bands like you guys. I mean, it's just this
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: is like a dream come true in a lot of ways.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: And so yeah, thanks for chatting more about you Know
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: obviously you know, the live album, obviously talking about you
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: Know and don't forget to Breathe. It's just like the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: history of it, obviously, the recreation with the live album, obviously,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: the new music, all of it. It's just incredible. So it's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: just so cool that here we are over basically like
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: twenty five years later, you guys are still doing it.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: You're still killing it. So we're super super stoked for
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: the new stuff. And yeah, hopefully we get to see
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: you out on the road sometime.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: Thank you guys so much, appreciate it. It was really fun.