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- 0:00Speaker 1: Mix one O four point nine dot com dot you
- 0:03Speaker 1: for all the latest news and information. Now three sixty
- 0:06Speaker 1: with Katie Wolf Everyone is listening. Mix one oh four
- 0:09Speaker 1: point nine one hundred percent.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Ant joining us in the studio this morning for the
- 0:15Speaker 2: big issues, proudly brought to you by Kolano Community Association,
- 0:19Speaker 2: an Aboriginal oaned and operated community lead organization from the
- 0:22Speaker 2: top End to Tenant Creek. This morning, we have got
- 0:25Speaker 2: well one of the big men, Tami in Hayl Good morning.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Good morning Wolfy. There you go very.
- 0:31Speaker 4: Well and well Maddie Hepworth.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I'm not sure that you're as towering as as Dave Tollna.
- 0:37Speaker 5: I was gonna say careful calling man big man, I
- 0:40Speaker 5: would be I'd be greatly offended by that. Hailey, how
- 0:42Speaker 5: do you feel about being called a big man each week?
- 0:44Speaker 3: Look the big man on the big Issues.
- 0:48Speaker 4: He's happy with it. I wouldn't mind if I was
- 0:51Speaker 4: called big.
- 0:52Speaker 3: I've been called worse plenty of times.
- 0:56Speaker 4: Well, but we can also.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Now call you officially, call you the coach of the
- 1:00Speaker 2: Northern Territory Titans.
- 1:02Speaker 4: Is that the correct title?
- 1:03Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's the men's the men's rugby league team.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07Speaker 3: So I'm excited about that.
- 1:09Speaker 4: Head coach. Yeah, good stuff, mate. When what's the process here?
- 1:13Speaker 4: When do you start? When you start?
- 1:14Speaker 6: Well, they're still finalizing when the tournament will be. It's
- 1:18Speaker 6: usually over the June Long weekend, so but there's some
- 1:22Speaker 6: talk about having a little bit later in the year.
- 1:24Speaker 6: So once we get a grip on when that is,
- 1:26Speaker 6: and we start to do some planning and Merg mccalyan's
- 1:30Speaker 6: been a pointed assistant and so we'll start to put
- 1:33Speaker 6: together a program will probably be about a six week
- 1:35Speaker 6: program leading into a national championship.
- 1:38Speaker 3: So you know, we're excited about being involved.
- 1:40Speaker 6: I love Rep footy, I played it, and getting an
- 1:43Speaker 6: opportunity to coach the Titans at the senior men's level
- 1:47Speaker 6: is something I've always wanted to do. I think I
- 1:49Speaker 6: was the only applicant, to be honest, But so before
- 1:52Speaker 6: anyone blows up about how did Haal get the job,
- 1:55Speaker 6: I might have been the only applicant.
- 1:58Speaker 5: I'm just going to ask if you'd seen my application
- 2:00Speaker 5: for the to be a part of the Rep squad,
- 2:02Speaker 5: and does that come across were already.
- 2:04Speaker 6: Going to take you away as a mascot that we
- 2:06Speaker 6: will just dress you up like a little mini Titan
- 2:09Speaker 6: and sending me.
- 2:10Speaker 5: Out there the application I was referring to.
- 2:14Speaker 6: So you know, it'll be exciting, and you know, we're
- 2:18Speaker 6: really keen to because I'm a club coach in the
- 2:21Speaker 6: in the past, either as he rules or rugby league.
- 2:24Speaker 6: We really want to support our clubs and we want
- 2:27Speaker 6: to support the players that are doing the right thing
- 2:30Speaker 6: by their clubs. And We've got six really good club
- 2:33Speaker 6: coaches and I'll be going to those guys as the
- 2:37Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to watching football on Saturday that all
- 2:39Speaker 6: three games are at the Headquarters and it gives us
- 2:43Speaker 6: an opportunity to see who's there. I know there's some
- 2:45Speaker 6: really good players have come to town and you know,
- 2:48Speaker 6: but we're really mindful of the fact that we want
- 2:51Speaker 6: to pick players that are doing the right thing in clubland.
- 2:53Speaker 6: So I'll be certainly talking to the club coaches over
- 2:56Speaker 6: the course of the season. We want players with good attitude.
- 3:00Speaker 6: Good footballer is obviously you've got to be a good
- 3:01Speaker 6: rugby league player, but you've got to bring a good
- 3:04Speaker 6: attitude to the Titans and I think a lot of
- 3:07Speaker 6: good work was done by George Brown in the last
- 3:10Speaker 6: few years to really change the culture, a little bit
- 3:14Speaker 6: of the Titans team and we want to build on
- 3:16Speaker 6: that as well.
- 3:17Speaker 4: Oh good stuff.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Well, I think that's fantastic and I'll be really keen
- 3:20Speaker 2: to you know, to hear how things are progressing and
- 3:22Speaker 2: when you go away. Yeah, thanks, Damien Hale. Well, let's
- 3:27Speaker 2: move along and talk about one of the other big
- 3:29Speaker 2: issues of the week. It's been the biggest story, he'd
- 3:33Speaker 2: have to say, around the world, and that is the
- 3:35Speaker 2: passing of Prince Philip. I think that there's been a
- 3:38Speaker 2: lot of sadness from the UK, there's no doubt about that,
- 3:41Speaker 2: and a lot of people wondering whether Prince Harry was
- 3:44Speaker 2: going to turn up for the funeral. I can confirm
- 3:47Speaker 2: that Prince Harry he has well, he landed. I think
- 3:50Speaker 2: it was maybe a little earlier this morning or actually yesterday.
- 3:53Speaker 2: It must have been at the Heathrow airport from Los Angeles,
- 3:57Speaker 2: and he shared some he has shared some memory of
- 4:02Speaker 2: Prince Philip, and it's looking as though he's definitely going
- 4:04Speaker 2: to be at the service, but without his wife.
- 4:08Speaker 6: Well she's pregnant, isn't she. You know, I've got all
- 4:11Speaker 6: the stuff around COVID. I wouldn't read too much into that.
- 4:15Speaker 6: The I think there was saw on line today. There's
- 4:18Speaker 6: only thirty people.
- 4:19Speaker 4: Yeah, it's only a small crowd.
- 4:21Speaker 3: And we didn't get an invite.
- 4:22Speaker 4: No, definitely, not that stiff.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Apparently we're in the next thirty. But look what a life,
- 4:28Speaker 3: you know.
- 4:29Speaker 6: And I'm not a massive fan of the royal family.
- 4:32Speaker 6: I really like the Queen and I like Prince Philip,
- 4:35Speaker 6: and you have a look at you know, over the
- 4:37Speaker 6: course of their life. You could argue that, you know,
- 4:39Speaker 6: some people may argue that, or what did he actually
- 4:42Speaker 6: do well? He fought in the Second World wool for starters,
- 4:45Speaker 6: and he was on a projectory to be a very
- 4:47Speaker 6: senior naval officer in the future. Her father passed away
- 4:52Speaker 6: and she became queen now almost seventy years ago, sixty
- 4:56Speaker 6: six years ago or something, So you know what the
- 4:58Speaker 6: numbers are mind blowing from He's seventy four years married,
- 5:01Speaker 6: he's ninety nine years old. She's been queen for sixty
- 5:04Speaker 6: six years and he had to every day get out
- 5:07Speaker 6: of bed stand walk with her or otherwise you'd never
- 5:10Speaker 6: see her. Obviously, he's got his own talent because he's
- 5:14Speaker 6: patron of over eight hundred organizations around the world, and
- 5:17Speaker 6: often people will get someone like that, who can be
- 5:19Speaker 6: advocate for you, who.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Can drive you.
- 5:22Speaker 4: That's exactly right, And so.
- 5:24Speaker 3: People sort of a flippant with that, and they go, oh, well,
- 5:26Speaker 3: what did he do like he was a driver? He was.
- 5:29Speaker 6: And obviously the one that's most famous is the Duke
- 5:33Speaker 6: of Edinburgh Awards scheme, where nearly a million young people
- 5:36Speaker 6: around the world one hundred and thirty six countries have
- 5:39Speaker 6: engaged in challenging things to get the best out of
- 5:43Speaker 6: themselves and to learn about themselves.
- 5:45Speaker 3: And so I think it's been a life well lived.
- 5:47Speaker 6: And you know, it's only been the last few years,
- 5:50Speaker 6: probably only the last twelve months that he's really his
- 5:53Speaker 6: health has deteriorated and to a point where he's.
- 5:56Speaker 4: Now hit the nail on the head.
- 5:57Speaker 2: You know. I know a lot of people sort of
- 5:58Speaker 2: question whether the royal family is still relevant. But when
- 6:02Speaker 2: you look at the number of royal engagements and the number,
- 6:04Speaker 2: you know, like the number of community engagements and things
- 6:07Speaker 2: that he has attended over his lifespan, you would have
- 6:11Speaker 2: to argue that he has been a very strong contributor
- 6:14Speaker 2: to you know, to the community and to his country.
- 6:17Speaker 4: And and you know, some of the.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Stuff, like you said that he's done in terms of
- 6:20Speaker 2: being a patron for different organizations. For some of those organizations,
- 6:25Speaker 2: if you don't have somebody who's you know, who is
- 6:28Speaker 2: a big name and has that you know, has that way,
- 6:31Speaker 2: it's very hard to get your message across. So you
- 6:34Speaker 2: sort of can't undervalue some of that work.
- 6:36Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it's nice that those things have
- 6:37Speaker 5: been recognized as well. There is a lot of criticisms
- 6:40Speaker 5: of the royal family and their relevance, particularly here in
- 6:44Speaker 5: Australia when you talk about the Republican movement, and I
- 6:47Speaker 5: think with the passing of the Duke of Edinburgh, the
- 6:51Speaker 5: public response I think could have gone two ways, but
- 6:53Speaker 5: it has been an outpouring of grief and sadness as well.
- 6:57Speaker 5: And I mean, obviously there's criticisms of any public figure
- 7:00Speaker 5: and he hasn't always done everything right. Coming back to
- 7:04Speaker 5: what you're saying before about Harry coming in for the funeral,
- 7:07Speaker 5: I think it's it's sad that because they are such
- 7:09Speaker 5: public figures that you know, this will be well documented
- 7:12Speaker 5: in the fallout between Harry and Meghan and the rest
- 7:15Speaker 5: of the family is being well documented, but it would
- 7:17Speaker 5: be the same for you know, any family as well.
- 7:19Speaker 5: When when you know any member of a family dies,
- 7:22Speaker 5: you know that no family is perfect and every family
- 7:24Speaker 5: has issues, especially you know, when it would come to
- 7:27Speaker 5: things things like attending the funeral. It's just that this
- 7:30Speaker 5: is much more high profile.
- 7:32Speaker 4: And sad about it.
- 7:35Speaker 2: The thing that makes me sad about it though, is
- 7:37Speaker 2: you know, I've got two brothers, and I know how
- 7:39Speaker 2: close that bond between two brothers can be. And I
- 7:43Speaker 2: just think, I really you hate the thought of those
- 7:45Speaker 2: boys being split apart, and you hate the thought or
- 7:48Speaker 2: the idea of you know, going through such grief and them,
- 7:52Speaker 2: you know, not still having that close relationship.
- 7:55Speaker 4: But I really hope that, you know, maybe and look.
- 7:57Speaker 2: They're not going to be listening to me this morning,
- 8:00Speaker 2: well I would be surprised, but I really hope that,
- 8:04Speaker 2: you know, there's this immense loss in their life is
- 8:08Speaker 2: actually used to maybe bring them back together.
- 8:11Speaker 6: Well, usually all all of those sort of rifts and
- 8:15Speaker 6: that are put to one side when you have a
- 8:16Speaker 6: member of your family dying. Ninety nine is a great innings,
- 8:21Speaker 6: it's a big life.
- 8:22Speaker 3: And it's a good innings.
- 8:24Speaker 6: But when it comes to the final chapter in it
- 8:27Speaker 6: obviously it will be sad, and you know, the Queen's
- 8:31Speaker 6: been with Prince Philip for seventy four years and so
- 8:35Speaker 6: it leaves a massive hole in her life that is
- 8:37Speaker 6: no longer there. But you know, a lot of the
- 8:39Speaker 6: stuff I don't really know about the media side of
- 8:42Speaker 6: things and how bad the rift between these boks are.
- 8:45Speaker 3: I just think that.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Whether it's been blown out of proportion again, who knows,
- 8:52Speaker 2: made the.
- 8:52Speaker 6: Decision to go their own way, and good luck to them.
- 8:57Speaker 2: But also do you know, again having to others, I've
- 9:00Speaker 2: seen my brothers getting to a stand up punch up
- 9:03Speaker 2: and then be all right about them a couple of.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Hours later, and.
- 9:08Speaker 3: They have their aunties screening separate them, and then they.
- 9:11Speaker 6: Walk out at the end of the garden after they've
- 9:13Speaker 6: builded each other down the fence and they're back shooting hoops.
- 9:16Speaker 4: Against exactly right.
- 9:18Speaker 2: So let's hope, yeah, let's hope it's a similar situation
- 9:21Speaker 2: with the royals. There's still plenty more to discuss on
- 9:24Speaker 2: the big issues with Mattie Hepworth and Damian Hale.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf Thanks to Joyce Main Dowin
- 9:31Speaker 1: Homes owned Stuart Highway Beer mate.
- 9:33Speaker 2: It is the Big Issues brought to you by Kolano
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- 9:40Speaker 2: from the top End to Tenant Creek.
- 9:42Speaker 4: And in the.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Studio with me this morning for the big issues, we've
- 9:45Speaker 2: got Damien Hale and Maddie Hepworth.
- 9:48Speaker 4: Now there's been a lot to sort of to catch
- 9:51Speaker 4: up on.
- 9:51Speaker 2: When it comes to this saga with Christine Holgate. You
- 9:54Speaker 2: may recall or most people will remember, she was the
- 9:56Speaker 2: CEO or the Chief executive for Australia Posts. Now the
- 10:00Speaker 2: Morrison government has now named a new chief.
- 10:03Speaker 4: Executive for Australia Post.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Is what's being reported just twenty four hours before that
- 10:07Speaker 2: Senate inquiry is going to examine the issues surrounding the
- 10:11Speaker 2: former chief executive's departure. Now, the appointment of the Woolworth
- 10:15Speaker 2: Supply chain head Paul Graham comes five months after the
- 10:19Speaker 2: departure of Australia Post's former executive Christine Holgate. And that
- 10:23Speaker 2: is of course over the luxury watch expenses scandal. But
- 10:27Speaker 2: just taking you across to the Australian right now it
- 10:29Speaker 2: is being reported obviously some of some of the information
- 10:33Speaker 2: coming out of that Senate inquiry and Christine Holgate says
- 10:37Speaker 2: that she lost her job at Australia Post because she
- 10:40Speaker 2: was humiliated by Scott Morrison for committing no offense. Now,
- 10:44Speaker 2: Miss Holgate has begun giving her opening remarks in front
- 10:48Speaker 2: of the Senate Inquiry.
- 10:50Speaker 4: She accused the Australia.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Post chairman of bullying and lied by providing fabricated evidence
- 10:56Speaker 2: about her departure. She said that the chairman lawfully stood
- 11:00Speaker 2: her down under public direction of the Prime Minister, and
- 11:04Speaker 2: she went on to say the simple truth is.
- 11:06Speaker 4: I was bullied out of my job.
- 11:09Speaker 2: She said this made her position at Australia Post unattenable
- 11:13Speaker 2: and resulted in her deteriorating health. I tell you what,
- 11:17Speaker 2: it's certainly going to be an interesting time in that
- 11:22Speaker 2: Senate inquiry this morning, hearing all of this evidence and
- 11:25Speaker 2: hearing all of these well, all of these statements being delivered.
- 11:29Speaker 6: I think she's got a case in the Fair Work
- 11:31Speaker 6: Commission though, hasn't she? Or in the Federal Court she's suing.
- 11:37Speaker 4: Double check on that, I would need to double.
- 11:39Speaker 6: Miss I think she has, So it'll be sort of
- 11:41Speaker 6: a bit careful while you've got a live but for
- 11:45Speaker 6: her to go to a Senate inquiry where you're in
- 11:47Speaker 6: camera under oath. She's made these allegations in there, so
- 11:53Speaker 6: obviously at the time I looked at it and one
- 11:57Speaker 6: advice to the new CEO is don't buy.
- 11:59Speaker 3: Luck tree watchers for anyone as a word of warning.
- 12:04Speaker 6: But at the time I thought she was dead set
- 12:08Speaker 6: trial by media and as a former union official and
- 12:13Speaker 6: somebody I don't usually cover CEOs, not not sort of
- 12:18Speaker 6: the Australian Workers' Union stable staple. But what I saw
- 12:24Speaker 6: was the fact that she's the CEO. Obviously the board
- 12:28Speaker 6: had approved some sort of bonus I believe, and then
- 12:31Speaker 6: you know, she was basically bullied. I agree with what
- 12:34Speaker 6: she said because I thought it was pretty poor form
- 12:39Speaker 6: from what the Prime Minister did.
- 12:41Speaker 5: That because he got up in Parliament and based only
- 12:44Speaker 5: on those allegations, I think that if these allegations are true,
- 12:47Speaker 5: she must stand down.
- 12:49Speaker 6: He was very, very shocking and to attack her like that,
- 12:54Speaker 6: publicly attack her like that did make her position untenable.
- 12:57Speaker 6: But as I said, I think she's still got a
- 12:59Speaker 6: live matter be for the courts.
- 13:00Speaker 2: And it's an interesting one as well because on the
- 13:02Speaker 2: face of it, like when I sort of first heard it, reported.
- 13:05Speaker 4: I went to myself, goodness.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Me, why did she buy luxury watches? You know, that's ridiculous,
- 13:09Speaker 2: what a misuse of funding. But then we caught up
- 13:13Speaker 2: with one of the one of the people who is
- 13:16Speaker 2: I can't think of exactly what the title is, but
- 13:18Speaker 2: one of the retailers obviously that has an Australia Post
- 13:21Speaker 2: one of the small you know, one of the desks
- 13:23Speaker 2: out of their establishment.
- 13:24Speaker 4: And I've also spoken.
- 13:26Speaker 2: To you to various other people about it, and most
- 13:29Speaker 2: that work for Australia Post or those retailers are saying, well,
- 13:33Speaker 2: hang on a second. She was actually a really good
- 13:36Speaker 2: CEO and actually did some really great things.
- 13:39Speaker 4: For Australia Posts and for the workers.
- 13:41Speaker 2: Now obviously I don't work there, so I'm not one
- 13:43Speaker 2: hundred percent sure on that, but it was one of
- 13:46Speaker 2: those things I think that when you first read the headline,
- 13:48Speaker 2: you go, oh, this is disgraceful, But then you see
- 13:51Speaker 2: a little bit more and you get a bit more insight,
- 13:53Speaker 2: and you go, hang on a second, it actually seems
- 13:55Speaker 2: like she was doing her job rather effectively.
- 13:59Speaker 4: And and you.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Know the thing that she did was that bonus of
- 14:02Speaker 2: those luxury watches, but in actual fact, you know, if
- 14:06Speaker 2: they'd been given a bonus of.
- 14:08Speaker 5: Cash, we would be talking about it and the watches
- 14:11Speaker 5: thing they said it was, it was good for media,
- 14:14Speaker 5: it was you know, sensationalized and sensationalized. It probably didn't
- 14:21Speaker 5: pass the pub test, but it does seem in hindsight
- 14:23Speaker 5: now something very trivial to fall on your sword for.
- 14:27Speaker 5: I mean, if we talk about, you know, things that
- 14:29Speaker 5: don't pass the pub test, and you look at politics,
- 14:32Speaker 5: I mean, you know, there's nearly a scandal in any
- 14:34Speaker 5: government every day that doesn't pass the pub test. Yet
- 14:37Speaker 5: it doesn't mark the end of a premier or a
- 14:39Speaker 5: Prime Minister or a Chief minister something of that scale
- 14:42Speaker 5: when you're talking about something that at the time didn't
- 14:44Speaker 5: pass the pub test.
- 14:45Speaker 3: But overall it's quite trivial.
- 14:46Speaker 6: I think at the time too, there was a bit
- 14:48Speaker 6: of conjecture around CEO entitlements and wages from memory, and
- 14:54Speaker 6: as you said, Katie, you know if it had been
- 14:56Speaker 6: a cash bonus, and plenty of people working in all
- 15:00Speaker 6: different industries receive incentives when it comes to right, you
- 15:03Speaker 6: meet your KPI, you'll get a bonus, whether you're selling
- 15:06Speaker 6: shoes or whether you're the CEO of Australia Post and
- 15:11Speaker 6: these executives apparently had been working on a project from
- 15:14Speaker 6: what I remember was something a national project. They'd had
- 15:17Speaker 6: a really good result, which which the result actually helped
- 15:21Speaker 6: their franchisees and helped the people that were having franchises
- 15:25Speaker 6: right around Australia and that I.
- 15:27Speaker 4: Was looking for earlier.
- 15:28Speaker 6: Yeah, and franchises and she was rewarding them. And the
- 15:33Speaker 6: reason she didn't give cash is she said that she
- 15:35Speaker 6: wanted something that they could keep and remember the effort
- 15:39Speaker 6: that they'd put into making this particular project work. So
- 15:42Speaker 6: you know, the way she was treated was appalling and
- 15:45Speaker 6: I think that there'll be some sort of settlement. It
- 15:48Speaker 6: will cost Australia Post. I think in the long run.
- 15:53Speaker 6: Something happened.
- 15:53Speaker 5: Had in a friend recently that had done twenty years
- 15:55Speaker 5: at a company and he had just left and he
- 15:57Speaker 5: was given a watch, except it didn't work, and so
- 16:00Speaker 5: he left the company. Oh that's on you, mate, You've
- 16:02Speaker 5: got to fix that quite expensive luxury mte. It didn't
- 16:05Speaker 5: work and they said, well that's on you.
- 16:07Speaker 4: You've left, now fix it yourself.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Said before we wrap up, I do want to talk
- 16:12Speaker 2: about about AFL's concussion crisis, it's being reported, has come
- 16:17Speaker 2: to a head as the afl W heavyweights. Yeah that's right,
- 16:21Speaker 2: get set for season decider now. It was apparently in
- 16:24Speaker 2: the early minutes of the Crow's eighteen point victory over
- 16:27Speaker 2: an inaccurate Melbourne in Saturday's opening afl W preliminary final,
- 16:32Speaker 2: skipper Chelsea Randall and Melbourne's Eliza McNamara brutally collided, and
- 16:37Speaker 2: shortly after Randal was ruled out of the game by
- 16:40Speaker 2: her club doctor. We know that earlier this year, the
- 16:43Speaker 2: afl did announce that players were who were in cast
- 16:46Speaker 2: would be forced to miss a minimum of twelve days
- 16:49Speaker 2: of football, with previous rules allowing them to return after
- 16:52Speaker 2: six days. The rule change applied to both the men's
- 16:55Speaker 2: and women's competitions. I mean, there is no doubt that
- 16:58Speaker 2: you want to make sure that, certainly when you're talking
- 17:01Speaker 2: about concussions and talking about people's safety and health, that
- 17:05Speaker 2: you've got to make sure that you're following all the
- 17:07Speaker 2: appropriate rules and regulations, and you know, ensuring that their
- 17:12Speaker 2: health is the number one priority.
- 17:14Speaker 4: But I mean, what needs to be what needs to
- 17:16Speaker 4: happen here?
- 17:16Speaker 3: Do you reckon? Not much?
- 17:18Speaker 6: Guess do the twelve days, not much final, because what's
- 17:22Speaker 6: the point of having the rule. If you're going to
- 17:27Speaker 6: allow someone to play because it's a grand final, it
- 17:30Speaker 6: should be irrelevant.
- 17:31Speaker 3: And I've played. I got cleaned up in the Grand final.
- 17:35Speaker 3: The guy got six weeks for it.
- 17:37Speaker 6: Incidentally, probably should have got twelve, but because he punched me,
- 17:40Speaker 6: it was only six.
- 17:41Speaker 2: But the because it was you, because it was a punch.
- 17:47Speaker 6: I went back to cast. It was in the nineties,
- 17:52Speaker 6: back in the day. But the research now tells us
- 17:54Speaker 6: the damage that it does. And sometimes I have a
- 17:57Speaker 6: really bad memory. What are we talking about?
- 18:00Speaker 4: So it's actually no, it's funny. It's very serious.
- 18:04Speaker 6: However, the twelve days is the twelve days, and I
- 18:07Speaker 6: think they need to stick by it.
- 18:09Speaker 3: I don't believe she's going to play.
- 18:10Speaker 4: I don't think so. At this stage.
- 18:12Speaker 6: You might have the women's footy Wolfie, is that three
- 18:18Speaker 6: or four years ago? When it started, it certainly was
- 18:21Speaker 6: at a level all right. What I've noticed is the
- 18:24Speaker 6: athletes are getting quicker, they're getting bigger.
- 18:27Speaker 3: They look as though a lot of them are doing weights.
- 18:29Speaker 6: Programs and doing sort of strength and conditioning fit like yourself,
- 18:34Speaker 6: wolf And they are colliding and Aussie rules in rugby league,
- 18:39Speaker 6: they're collision sports and you're going to have injuries.
- 18:42Speaker 3: You're going to have people hitting.
- 18:44Speaker 6: Heads like we saw that was a pretty sickening collision
- 18:48Speaker 6: in the girls game the other day and ruled them
- 18:50Speaker 6: both out of the game.
- 18:53Speaker 3: But they're getting bigger and they're.
- 18:54Speaker 4: Getting strong, and we've got to keep them healthy. You've
- 18:56Speaker 4: got to keep them starting to.
- 18:57Speaker 3: Be part of it.
- 18:58Speaker 6: So you know, people wanted women playing footy, women wanted
- 19:02Speaker 6: to play for one of the bis men of the same.
- 19:05Speaker 6: When you just get somebody who's twenty four to seven
- 19:08Speaker 6: concentrating as an athlete and they're running flat out at
- 19:11Speaker 6: each other, there's going to be injured.
- 19:12Speaker 4: That's exactly right. It's going to hurt Mattie. Anything else
- 19:14Speaker 4: you want to add on that topic.
- 19:16Speaker 5: No, I mean, as a Crow's fan, it is. It's
- 19:18Speaker 5: a devastating blow. But rules or rules that I, even
- 19:21Speaker 5: as a fan would you know, I would not want
- 19:23Speaker 5: to see them find a loophole to go and actually
- 19:25Speaker 5: we can get her to play and avoid the twelve days.
- 19:28Speaker 5: Even as a fan, I would not want to see
- 19:29Speaker 5: them spewing.
- 19:31Speaker 4: What do you need so to be spewing wouldn't she.
- 19:33Speaker 2: She would be absolutely spewing, Like if you'd gone well
- 19:36Speaker 2: the whole season and you made it to the Grand
- 19:38Speaker 2: Final and then you weren't able to play, you'd be devastated.
- 19:41Speaker 6: I think it makes a mockery if if she does play,
- 19:44Speaker 6: and I think that it's a serious issue, and by
- 19:46Speaker 6: not playing, she will highlight how serious this issue is.
- 19:50Speaker 3: And she should be commended for that.
- 19:52Speaker 6: And you know, but health is the first and foremost,
- 19:56Speaker 6: isn't it, you know? And she needs to recover from
- 19:58Speaker 6: what was a pretty heavy knock.
- 20:00Speaker 2: Well, great to have you both in the studio with
- 20:02Speaker 2: us this morning for the Big Issues.
- 20:04Speaker 4: Damian Hale, thank you.
- 20:06Speaker 3: It was very placid without Big Dave. He was doing that.
- 20:12Speaker 2: We missed you this morning, Dave. I don't know I'm
- 20:14Speaker 2: dealing somewhere, but big, big thank you. Maddie Hepworth for
- 20:17Speaker 2: you stepping in.
- 20:19Speaker 1: With you.
- 20:21Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again after eleven with the local news.
- 20:23Speaker 4: Thank you ye so very much.
- 20:25Speaker 2: You are listening to mix one oh four point nine
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