Latest / Privycast / Ep. 214 Video Game Bathrooms
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- 0:00He there is this character, the great and mighty Pooh, who lords over Pooh Cabin.
- 0:06I don't know.
- 0:07I don't even know why you want to be in Pooh Cabin.
- 0:11Like, the only time I want to be in Pooh Cabin is when I've got a big one on deck and I'm scared that I'm not gonna make it.
- 0:26Welcome back to Privy.
- 0:27Privy is a podcast about bathrooms recorded from my home bathroom.
- 0:34I'm your host, Hunter Hoover, and I love bathrooms.
- 0:38Welcome back, everyone.
- 0:39Thank you for being here.
- 0:40And the top of the show.
- 0:43First of all, we're in this weird, like, it's it's wet outside.
- 0:48We went from the wet of the summer sun making my back just an absolute cotton covered swamp.
- 0:56To the wet of the sky as the Oregon rains, I feel arrived weeks early this year.
- 1:03It's it's very wet.
- 1:05But the other thing that's just it's kind of weird is it's still summer.
- 1:09Even so at the point of this episode's record, I'm recording again, very close to release.
- 1:13It's been a busy week.
- 1:16And at the point of episode's release, kids have still not gone back to school here.
- 1:20The teachers are back and kids are going back, but we we fully just waited.
- 1:24until like flat after Labor Day weekend to actually go back.
- 1:30It's crazy.
- 1:34With that pumpkin got that pumpkin spice tea.
- 1:37It's spice season.
- 1:38And we're, you know, last year we ranked some spice.
- 1:41It was a good time.
- 1:42But guys don't realize how fast the year goes by.
- 1:46Like, once you go back to school, you're there like a month, and then it's Halloween, and then it's Thanksgiving.
- 1:53And then it's criminus, and then you're a whole new year.
- 1:56And a lot happens really quick.
- 2:00I've shared on the show
- 2:02That I work for a public high school.
- 2:06So much of my life is lived in line with the school calendar.
- 2:11That means like for me, summer pops off.
- 2:14And then when we go back to school, it's like the busiest month or two of my life.
- 2:18And you have a lot more time.
- 2:21And like I'm struck because over the summer, like I had a I had an abundance of, I wouldn't say all free time, still making the show, still doing the stuff with parables,
- 2:30still doing stuff at the church.
- 2:31But I'm on break from the high school.
- 2:33And so I have this bulk of my day that's open.
- 2:36And going back this week, I noticed like I have done way fewer, fewer Vidja games.
- 2:42Now, who hear this and you're going like, he's gonna complain about not no, that's not it.
- 2:47Nobody needs to play video games.
- 2:49Like it they're totally an additive to life.
- 2:52They are a supplemental thing.
- 2:54They're not necessary.
- 2:56But the reality is, is
- 3:00When life gets busy, you don't do them as much because you just don't have time for them.
- 3:10And I remember like when I was growing up, kids, you're getting ready to go back to school, you're getting ready to have a little bit less time on on these things.
- 3:15And that's okay.
- 3:16It's good for you.
- 3:17But I remember like I grew up with video games, but video games back in the day, they they were kind of this huge thing.
- 3:25Like, I remember getting up early, very early.
- 3:30Now that I'm a parent looking back on it, I'm like, probably shouldn't have been doing this.
- 3:35Often got up before my parents could get up to like sneak my down to the basement to play video games before they woke up.
- 3:43Unstructured time for sure.
- 3:45But and those games were of a different nature.
- 3:48Like my sons recently drug out a lot of those old games that I still have GameCube, Game Boys, the the like.
- 3:55And it's good stuff.
- 3:58It's fun.
- 3:59But they were also more of a to do.
- 4:01And what I mean by that is that like
- 4:07Your game was tied to a gaming console that you had to like plug into a TV.
- 4:13And and you couldn't like walk around with it or take it with you or or do all of that stuff.
- 4:19Or a PC.
- 4:20And there were some individually made games, but they're not as big.
- 4:25And those games were mostly for like tech junkies and people that were like, oh, I'm into the tech of it.
- 4:32And they're like building their own machines and and all that stuff.
- 4:34It just seeing what they could do.
- 4:37Things completely changed when the portable games market arrived.
- 4:44I was no longer tied to the TV.
- 4:47I could take my Game Boy on the road.
- 4:49I'm playing Pokemon out here in the streets, kids.
- 4:54And while I know this is going to be hard to believe because I have a whole podcast here set up in my home bathroom.
- 5:01I I never really played my Game Boy when I was in the bathroom.
- 5:06It just never really crossed my mind.
- 5:07I don't know.
- 5:08I would set it down on the couch and go to the bathroom and then come back.
- 5:12Not sure why, but I didn't really take it with me.
- 5:15And that really made me think like nowadays, you hear people all the time getting on their phones while they're on the toilet.
- 5:22Heck.
- 5:23Before I hit record, I was I was doing a little little pre-game scroll while I was dropping dropping stack.
- 5:31Really gets the the vibe really fresh in here before we hit record.
- 5:36But nowadays they get on their phones while they're on the toilet and gaming, and somehow something happens and the phone ends up in the toilet.
- 5:46Now I've never had this.
- 5:50I've never dropped my phone in the toilet, so I don't really understand like but it has to be when you stand up and turn around, you just slips into the tank.
- 6:01I don't understand it.
- 6:02I I just stick my phone either on the ground at my feet or I like slide it back into my pocket before I stand up, or I guess before I wipe.
- 6:11I always put my phone away before I wipe.
- 6:13So there's never a moment where I've wiped and then touched my phone again.
- 6:16That's that's idiotic.
- 6:19If you're wiping and then touching your phone again, you don't believe in hand washing.
- 6:24You don't.
- 6:26Yeah.
- 6:28You can't touch your phone after you wipe.
- 6:30Until you wash your hands.
- 6:31You can't.
- 6:32But I'm not really a game on the pot guy.
- 6:34Like, for me, video games, I don't want to sit on the toilet and play video games.
- 6:39Stay tuned.
- 6:40Who knows?
- 6:41But so I got to thinking.
- 6:45Was dropping your Game Boy in the toilet everything?
- 6:48Like nowadays, if somebody said, I dropped my phone in the toilet, it's like, yeah, you're doom scrolling again.
- 6:53But did people ever drop their game boys in the toilet?
- 6:56I never did it because again, I never dawned on me to take my Game Boy into the bathroom.
- 7:01But I was also but a grade school scamp.
- 7:05And from what I can tell, taking your phone or your game boy to the bathroom is like middle school and high school beginner behavior.
- 7:13Like they're so consumed in the thing that they can't pry themselves from it for 45 seconds to drop a deuce.
- 7:22And it turns out that not only did Game Boys get dropped in the toilet, it happened a lot.
- 7:30They know this because in the the the way they know it is actually even funnier.
- 7:36Because they would have like repair stores and electronics repair stores, and there was a lot of Game Boys that would come in to be sold or traded, and they would need repaired
- 7:48because they had significant water damage on them.
- 7:51It's wild.
- 7:53And it's suspicious water damage.
- 7:55Like you dropped it where?
- 7:59So people've been playing video games on the toilet, I would say confidently since the early 90s.
- 8:06And things only continued to grow in the I'm gonna play a video game on the toilet scene as games continued to be made more and more portable.
- 8:19Then when the smartphone released.
- 8:22In the last
- 8:25In the like late 2000s, early 2010s, bathroom gaming shifted again because now your cell phone.
- 8:37Which you're more likely to just be carrying with you more consistently than a pocket gaming device would have phone apps, phone games, and in time, the never ending scroll.
- 8:51And and this is really what kicked off today's episode.
- 8:55Today's episode is kind of morphed over time.
- 8:58One day in the future, what this episode was supposed to be will be made.
- 9:03But as I started to prepare for that option, I realized.
- 9:06There's a whole slice of bathroom history that needs to be discussed before we go there.
- 9:15I have a situation.
- 9:18While people have been playing video games in the bathroom for a long time, as was the case with movies and TV, it actually took longer for bathrooms and the bathroom topics to
- 9:29be adapted and later widely used in video games.
- 9:34Today
- 9:35We're going to take a brief stroll through video game history and how bathrooms and poop have been portrayed and have made their way into the gaming industry.
- 9:52While there's not agreement, one of the best bets for the best actual prominent use and portrayal of a bathroom in a video game is a 1984 computer pixelated platformer called Jet
- 10:08Set Willy.
- 10:10Now, in Jet Set Willy, I should note before Jet Set Willy, there were text based computer adventures such as Mystery House.
- 10:19But they didn't depict a toilet in so much as like they described it, much like a book would.
- 10:25Also, text-based adventure games, while I'm here, I'm I'm going to decode this nerd term for everybody.
- 10:33Because I know that there's that no nerds listen to this show.
- 10:37It's there's not a single dork that listens.
- 10:40Everybody that listens is very cool and sophisticated.
- 10:43And but text-based adventure games.
- 10:49Are essentially reading a book disguised as a computer game.
- 10:52Like they've fully tricked you into reading.
- 10:57But it happened to be program interactive.
- 10:59I I don't count things like Mystery House.
- 11:01So for our intensive purpose, I'm talking like the bathroom and the toilet is depicted visually and is a part of the game in some way.
- 11:11So the first game to do that.
- 11:13To not only depict it and you could interact with it and you could go to these spaces and run around in there, was, as I said, a computer pixelated platformer called Jet Set Willy.
- 11:27Now, Willy is universally one of those names that's like, hmm, it's a dangerous move naming any character Willy.
- 11:37That's all I'm gonna say about it.
- 11:39And Willie is one of those where it's like, man.
- 11:43Like jet jet set Willy.
- 11:46Like why is Willy so jet set?
- 11:48Like
- 11:50And Jet Set Willie didn't just depict a bathroom.
- 11:54The bathroom actually played a role in the game.
- 11:58In the game, Willie wakes up fully dressed, where he passed out in his bathtub after a night of partying.
- 12:07Big party.
- 12:09Jet Set Willie's partying hard.
- 12:11Party on Wayne.
- 12:12They made it to where if you as Willie, the player, touch the toilet, you lose a life.
- 12:18Which
- 12:19Alright, bud.
- 12:20Like, why do we gotta make the toilet a bad guy?
- 12:23F Day one, minute one
- 12:28Jet set Willy's like, nope, the toilets are bad guys, they will harm you.
- 12:33And then, after you do everything in the game, you gather all of the things and all of the junk that the platformer desires you to gather, you have to make your way back to the
- 12:44bathroom.
- 12:47Where you settle back in to bed, which is the bathtub.
- 12:52And undeniably, like that's a weird game, just even on the the surface level description.
- 12:59And I should note, this is kind of like late stage in the process of all of this video game bathroom discussion.
- 13:07But there's a couple blokes.
- 13:09I I wanna I wanna call this out because much of my research was tied to this and it actually gave me a lot of ideas for the future.
- 13:16But the article was called, quote, The Purposes and Meaning of Video Games Bath Video Game Bathrooms.
- 13:23It's a good read.
- 13:24Uh and it will be listed in the sources in the ding dong below.
- 13:27But along with that, these gentlemen who wrote this article published a database where bathrooms in video games are cataloged.
- 13:36We will return to this, I promise.
- 13:38For our purposes though, we don't we're not looking at just like the sheer multitude of bathrooms in video games.
- 13:43That would be more akin to what these gentlemen
- 13:46explore in their article and and in the website that is tied to.
- 13:52For our purposes, we are looking at some of the history of bathrooms.
- 13:56And while there are some exceptions, for the vast majority of early video game bathrooms in the 1980s and the 1990s, bathrooms served an age-old role.
- 14:11That is, of comedic relief and slapstick humor.
- 14:16Key examples from the 1980s to early 2000s of this.
- 14:20Toilet humor in video games includes Banjo and Kazooie and Conquer's Bad Fur Day.
- 14:26Usually, this put the heroes or characters you play in environments that were filled with poop, bathrooms, or other spaces that were stinky.
- 14:37In fact, Conquer's Bad Fur Day is famous for one of the first poop themed bad guys in any video game.
- 14:46Now, I believe this game is rated
- 14:48Because of things like this.
- 14:50But he there is this character, the great and mighty Pooh, who lords over Pooh Cabin.
- 14:57I don't know.
- 14:58I don't even know why you want to be in Pooh Cabin.
- 15:02Like, the only time I want to be in Pooh Cabin is when I've got a big one on deck and I'm scared that I'm not gonna make it.
- 15:11And if you don't know Conquer, Conquer's a cartoon squirrel or beaver or some sort of
- 15:17forest creature that has like grenades and rocket launchers and crap like that.
- 15:21Uh and it it's a it's a purely adult game.
- 15:27In Conquer, specifically in the level called Pooh Cabin, he uses the prune juice hyped diarrhea of some cows to get through and navigate the Pooh Cabin.
- 15:39So, like you load up these cows with prune juice, and they're just spraying cow diarrhea to help you navigate the level.
- 15:47And then you get to the end where you fight the great and mighty Pooh.
- 15:53It's wild world, it's a wild concept for not just a game, but also a level in a video game, Pooh Cabin.
- 16:01But it's also to be all supposed to be this shock humor and kind of goofy.
- 16:07Later, Nintendo's Earthbound, while not featuring a huge poop monster, had irreverent pooped theme humor.
- 16:17Most of you hear that and you go, Earthbound, Nintendo's Earthbound, I've never heard of that.
- 16:22But if you've ever played Nintendo's beloved platform fighter Super Smash Brothers, Ness and Lucas are the the protagonists and main characters from Earthbound.
- 16:35In Earthbound, it sets the tone for what sort of jokes could be used in a game.
- 16:41In the early days of video games, the bathroom kind of only served one or two roles.
- 16:48It gave some humor to a game as it went, or it made a connection to the players and was like a bad guy that you had to overcome.
- 16:57But it turns out everybody poops.
- 17:01Even the friends you make in the games you play.
- 17:07During this time, I should also note there might be some who went too far as they explored what you could do with video games.
- 17:15One example is Duke Nuke forever.
- 17:18Dude, I've I've Duke Nuked some some porcelain in my day.
- 17:21Where players can pick a turd.
- 17:25Father, Father, forgive us.
- 17:29Who did this?
- 17:31You can pick a turd out of the toilet and actually throw it around the bathroom.
- 17:35Who somebody spun somebody spent a portion of their life programming that as a thing that you can do?
- 17:42It serves no other purpose other than it was supposed to be this funny bit where it's like, look, you can grab the poo and sling it around the bathroom and duke nuke It's
- 17:51gratuitous.
- 17:53I've been accused of this show being gratuitous, but I don't think the people that would accuse this show of being gratuitous have ever heard of Duke Newcomb's poop throwing
- 18:03bathroom.
- 18:05As video game technology continued to grow, there became a desire to ground video games in some level of realism.
- 18:14Especially when 3D video games took off, bathrooms were readily used to connect to the player.
- 18:21And give a frame of reference.
- 18:23Famously, Seven's GoldenEye facility played around this bathroomscape.
- 18:31Bathrooms were all over in video games throughout the early 2000s and into the 2010s era.
- 18:40They would have side missions where you had to go into the bathrooms.
- 18:44Sometimes they would put the save state or the place where you go to save in a bathroom.
- 18:51Because it's like a safe place for humans.
- 18:55Sometimes bathrooms are put into video games to show the state of things.
- 19:01One example is Bioshock, where bathrooms can be found holding audio logs of people in distress with blood painted graffiti on the walls of the stalls.
- 19:13In these, there were a lot of new turns from
- 19:17The bathroom in video games as this thing of slapstick and kind of a a funny goof to it being horror or more scary related coded video games.
- 19:30When we talked about scary movies, we talked a lot about the role of bathrooms in scary movies and how they're often employed because as I said, they're supposed to be this place
- 19:40where you're safe and vulnerable, and that's where the attacker gets you.
- 19:44But people love to put scary things in the bathroom for the exact same reason.
- 19:50It gets you going.
- 19:52Silent Hill 2 opens with the character in a disgusting bathroom and sets the gritty, unsettling tone of the game.
- 20:00They return to the disgust of a toilet when the character has to reach in to get a key, reminding you everybody poops.
- 20:08I think it's worse.
- 20:09I think it's worse to drop your keys in the toilet than your phone.
- 20:12And I know there's like the
- 20:14I've ruined my phone bit of it.
- 20:17I don't know.
- 20:18That's a tough one 'cause keys often have like like
- 20:25Some amount of fabric or like you you're more likely to lose them down the S band.
- 20:29And where your phone, it's not going anywhere.
- 20:32It's just gonna get wet.
- 20:33And most of these phones are like 90% waterproof now, anyway.
- 20:38Resident Evil, another horror game franchise, though not having a lot of bathroom humor humor, has for sure one of the best.
- 20:46There's a bathroom in the mansion in the game.
- 20:49And if you drain the bathtub, all it does is triggers a big jump scare.
- 20:54And a memorable trap for the player.
- 20:56That's it.
- 20:57No bonus, just penalty.
- 21:02Also during this era
- 21:05And moving shortly out of it.
- 21:07There is a new term toward video games as a role or a method of storytelling.
- 21:16Bathrooms became a place to drive the narrative forward.
- 21:20Using bathrooms as safe save points grew and got more robust.
- 21:27Video games and bathrooms moved from just they just were not just another room.
- 21:33But we're a room that designed to ground the game, the story and the world of the game, in reality to give it some level of human connection.
- 21:44Just like you, human listening to this podcast, can interact with a bathroom, primarily through defecating.
- 21:51You can interact with the bathrooms in the video game.
- 21:54I'm an experienced bathroom interactor.
- 21:58And you know some of the things that you're gonna find in the bathroom.
- 22:03The next biggest jump in bathroom and bathroom-related humor and storytelling was bathroom functionality.
- 22:11Bathrooms moved from just being kind of the set piece or another room in the house to be a critical part of the gameplay experience.
- 22:21They had a purpose, more so than just giving this setting and establishing this thing.
- 22:27They had a purpose to the game.
- 22:30One example of this.
- 22:32Is in The Sims.
- 22:33The Sims has you play as a fake human character known as a Sim.
- 22:38And you have to have your Sim take a dump or they get sick, just like in real life.
- 22:44If I don't take a dump, I will get sick.
- 22:47That's facts.
- 22:48The save room is also a functional mechanic.
- 22:52It borrows often from the horror movie trope of making it to the bathroom.
- 22:56Except this time, instead of running from diarrhea, you're running from some sort of deadly monster.
- 23:01Dead Rising is famous for these.
- 23:05Pretty much there was this new attention paid to toilets.
- 23:10Modern games like Fortnite used it both as an aesthetic piece as well as a functional thing used to transport you across the map.
- 23:19You ride a porta potty as a tunnel.
- 23:22Others have you used the poop and pee in the world as an actual feature to the video game.
- 23:29Most famous for its modern depiction of world building and use of bathrooms in a game is Death Stranding.
- 23:37In Death Stranding, bathrooms really capture much of the total of what video game bathrooms are and have become.
- 23:45They give you a break from the grueling world outside.
- 23:48And that's true.
- 23:49That's true here in the real real world as well.
- 23:52The bathroom gives you a little break from what goes on outside of it.
- 23:59They allow for some humor to sneak into the game.
- 24:02Our bathrooms can be funny.
- 24:06Like, if somebody makes a big stink in a bathroom, like it's kind of annoying, but it's also very funny.
- 24:13It grounds the game, reminding you that the character poops and pees just like everybody else.
- 24:19But most importantly, is in Death Stranding, you can use the character's bodily functions to craft necessary in-game items.
- 24:29You can make a poo grenade, which lures the bad guys in and then destroy them with a blood grenade.
- 24:34Where's he getting that blood?
- 24:37There's a lot of changes in the history.
- 24:41Of how video games are portrayed and used.
- 24:45And this doesn't mean that as time goes on, the potty humor games and the such have gone away.
- 24:50Surely they have not.
- 24:51Lord knows.
- 24:52As long as people are pooping, people are going to be making poop jokes.
- 24:55That's just facts.
- 24:57But there is one more other advancement in the bathroom and video game space, and that is also something that is more recent.
- 25:05Namely, bathrooms as the topic or main feature of the game.
- 25:12This is essentially video games that are about bathrooms or poop, not just featuring them, but actually center in on bathrooms and poop and pee as a topic.
- 25:31It doesn't just have toilets or use toilets.
- 25:33It makes them the subject matter.
- 25:35Some of the most famous include the co-op game We Gotta Go, where you work together to help your friends get to the bathroom before you all poop your pants.
- 25:45That's real.
- 25:47You know a brother.
- 25:48Here's how you know a brother.
- 25:50A brother will help you navigate a maze in a trap house when he is getting ready to full-on diaper load it to help you make it yourself.
- 25:58That's a G indeed.
- 26:01Platformer, Booger Man, was an old school game where the hero dives in and out of toilets and uses his body functions to defeat enemies.
- 26:09That really paints a picture, Boogerman.
- 26:12The Toilet Chronicles are a puzzle escape game where you have to figure out how to escape like this really gross and super randy bathroom.
- 26:20Muddy Heights has you dropping your poop out of an upper level apartment window because you can't get out and the plumbing doesn't work.
- 26:28So you just have to skeet it.
- 26:30Skeet it.
- 26:30You know.
- 26:32I don't live in a city.
- 26:33I don't live in a city with like high rises and stuff like that.
- 26:36But I have to believe that people still throw poop out the window.
- 26:39I would.
- 26:41You never know.
- 26:42Watch your watch yourself if you're in a big city.
- 26:46Pooplers have toddlers doing an area control with babies who have pooped themselves.
- 26:52They're crawling around and and they've dookied their diaper, and their color of of poopy is like you're trying to capture the most area.
- 27:00It's gross, but thematically, it's there.
- 27:03There's a ton of these poop themed games.
- 27:06And the one that kicked all this off to me was a game by YouTuber PewDiePie.
- 27:11His game, Poop Die, has you play as a worm and you make poops to fight for you.
- 27:19And I've played it.
- 27:20And it is a lot.
- 27:23And what's interesting is although there is this long history of games with poop and bathrooms as a theme or a centerpiece, PewDiePie's poop die app game was blocked by the
- 27:37app store.
- 27:39And this is key.
- 27:41Many of these poop themed games took off as indie or independent games.
- 27:48Specifically, they're not tied to big corporations and companies.
- 27:52And so they're able to take some thematic risks and delve into a dirtier part of what makes us people.
- 27:58People poop.
- 28:01And while video games are games, and anyone who has done much gaming would tell you, they can be a lot more than that.
- 28:08They're stories and experiences and accomplishments that we can connect with, and they can be pretty funny.
- 28:15Bathrooms are highlighted in these video games in a huge way, and have been for some time.
- 28:21And while we aren't going to go there now, this is no doubt how we got to Skibity Toilet.
- 28:29Wetsuit Willy, jet set Willy, big ol' Willy walked so that Skibity Toilet could skibbity.
- 28:39So that Death Stranding could hit a bad guy with a poonade.
- 28:44It's kind of a beautiful thing if you think about it.
- 28:48This brings us to the end of another episode of Privy.
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