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Season 1: What We've Learned · Still Caring

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Abby Fox (Intro): Welcome to the Still Caring Podcast,
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presented by Stillwater Medical.
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Joe Akin (Intro): Here, community is at the heart of healthcare.
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Katon Lunsford (Intro): Through honest conversations and shared experiences
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Abby Fox (Intro): we explore what it means to care for our health—
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Joe Akin (Intro): and each other.
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Katon Lunsford (Intro): Because better health takes a village
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and you're part of ours.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Hello, and welcome to Still Caring.
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We have a fun host episode for you today.
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I am Abby Fox, the PR and marketing manager, joined by my co-hosts,
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Joe Akin and Katon Lunsford.
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Thank you guys for being here today.
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Hi.
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Katon Lunsford (Host 3): Hi.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Somehow it is the end of season one already.
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And so, I thought it would be fun.
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This was actually Joe's idea, to get us all together and kind of talk through how
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season one went, and to celebrate that this is a milestone for this podcast.
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So, thank you guys for being part of the journey.
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Joe Akin (Host 2): It has been so much fun.
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When we got into it, I wasn't sure how this was going play out
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having never done one before.
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And as we went along and got more comfortable with how the process goes
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and really engaged with people, it's now to a point where this is one of
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my favorite things because I really do feel like we can connect and get
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the message out to more people this way than through anything else we do.
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It's been fantastic for me.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): That's great.
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How about you, Katon?
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Katon Lunsford (Host 3): I agree with Joe.
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I was a little nervous.
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I think sometimes health can feel like a little bit daunting to talk
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about, especially when you're not like coming from that background.
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But I think Joe has been saying a lot like our whole purpose is to make this
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a more normalized topic to talk about.
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And so once I took that away and realized that I'm just having a
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conversation with someone about how we can care for one another,
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it made me feel a lot less nervous.
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And I feel like I've taken away a lot of great tips that I can use in my own life.
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So, I've enjoyed this a lot.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Awesome.
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I am one for, like, I'll have a big idea, and then once you actually
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start doing it, you love it a lot less than you thought you would sometimes.
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And so, I was nervous that that would be what this is.
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But it's not.
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I feel like it has definitely evolved.
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And so, it's changing, and it's not even what I thought we were
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creating in the beginning, which I think is a beautiful thing.
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But I'm loving the practice of it a lot more than I thought I would.
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And I think that's just because we have a great community, and we
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have these great stories to tell.
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And getting to kind of open the doors to that feels really great.
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And getting to talk to people who are hearing these conversations and making
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changes in their own lives has just been such a gift, for sure, for me.
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Okay.
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Well, I thought for this episode, it might be really fun for us each to talk
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about kind of different themes that we've picked up on or maybe, like, emotional
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moments that have stayed with us, or even like host jitters that we had when
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things went better than we expected.
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Like, anything that's kind of stuck with you through the
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process of making season one.
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Kayton, go ahead.
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Katon Lunsford (Host 3): Okay.
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I think that Lee's episode and the conversation we had
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has really stuck with me.
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She really hones in, I mean, as we all know, Lee Bird is, you know, a volunteer
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for everyone, a champion for everyone.
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And some key points really stuck with me that I've utilized in my own life and
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that even my parents have reached out and said like, "We love what she said."
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And she talked a lot about volunteering, and I think that
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principle of like we all want this village and this community around
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us, but we have to be good villagers.
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And so, how, you know, volunteering doesn't have to have a specific title.
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And she kept bringing up like you can volunteer by just offering to take your
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friend to the doctor, like you can drive them, or you can be someone that, you
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know, helps them get their groceries.
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And so, there's small ways to make someone's life more bearable and easy
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for them, and that, you know, we don't always have to carve out this huge
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chunk of time to be a volunteer, to be a steward for people in our community.
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And so, I've really taken that as, you know, I can help people and I can be a
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good villager in small ways and big ways, and they all have this impact on people.
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And so, that was really impactful to me, just how honest she is,
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and she really lives out what she says and you can tell that, and
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everyone else can pick up on that.
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And so, I just really appreciated that conversation.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): I love the response too when we shared about Lee's story.
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Like, so many people were commenting because she's had a positive impact
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in their lives, and that is just really fun to watch and see play out.
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Yeah, I think people like Lee, they show us
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what role models should be.
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You know, it's sacrificing.
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It's taking of your own personal time that you could be doing
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anything else that you want to do.
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But people like her are giving their time because they care about their community.
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And that has really pushed me to look at myself and go, "Okay, a
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lot of these things I'm doing, like this podcast, this is my job.
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What else can I do outside of my job to be more like Lee?"
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Yeah.
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We all be more like Lee.
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Katon Lunsford (Host 3): And to go off of that, I stopped her in the hallway because
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we had posted it on Facebook and we had all these comments, and I was like, "Lee,
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like you'll never guess like how many people saw this and what they're saying."
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And she's like, "No, I don't want to know."
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Like, she doesn't do it for like personal gain or for attention or anything.
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It's just who she is.
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And so, I mean, she's just phenomenal.
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And I agree, like, we can learn so much from her.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Way of life for her.
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And that's the whole thing, like it starts with a mindset.
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Because to me, one of the things that stuck out to me was kind of
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what I'm going to call a generative mindset, which I don't know if that
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resonates with a lot of listeners.
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But like, just that your mindset matters so much.
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You know, hearing from Laurie Hunter as a caregiver of like,
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"I'm going to stay positive until I have a reason to be negative."
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Like, that just really stuck with me, because I can get worried about all the
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worries and it's like, no, that I can come from it with a different mindset.
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I love too what Mary Beth shared about how, you know, here I thought
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I'd be a nurse at the bedside my whole life because that's my passion.
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But then, seeing how, well, maybe in leadership I can actually have more of
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an impact on the bedside than I even did when I was working one-on-one.
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So, I loved that of just, like, what's this thing that I'm thinking
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about and getting discouraged by?
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How could I think about it in a different way?
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Even Sarah Brown, you know, we have all these challenges facing us
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in healthcare and the shortage of healthcare workers, and what can we do?
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And, you know, I think her answer was like, "Let kids be curious
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and like just let it evolve."
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And so, I loved that kind of nudge to us of like, let's think about it differently
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Yeah.
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I think that the piece that really stood out to me, speaking of Lori Hunter,
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her interview has really stuck with me.
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And I think the thing that what really stands out was when she was talking
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about—so, her husband, Vance, who we also interviewed had some issues
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prior to his prostate cancer that, truly, he almost died because of it.
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And he made a promise to Lori in that moment that he would
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get a physical every year.
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And it was because of a non-cancer related issue that he had.
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And he kept that promise, which I think that's the big thing
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first, is keep the promise.
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And he continued to get physicals every year.
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And because of that, he caught prostate cancer early.
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And that stuck with me so much because, one, he made a promise and he kept it.
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That's unusual over time for these days.
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But even broader than that, and part of the reason that we do on the podcast,
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is because there's so much going on in healthcare right now with, you know,
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insurances creating issues, the government programs getting cut back, the cost
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of healthcare going up, the number of seniors—and I say that, I'm included
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because I'm 62—but me and everybody older than me, we are the silver wave.
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So, we are putting an amazing amount of pressure on the healthcare
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system while there are less people going into healthcare.
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So, there are all these different dynamics, and the whole reason we
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started this podcast was to try to make discussions about caring for yourself
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and others a coffee table topic.
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And so, that kind of tied right into it.
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It's we need to talk about these things.
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We need preventative care for each and every one of us, our friends, families,
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neighbors, community members, is more important now than potentially ever.
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And that's what Vance was exercising, was preventative care, was let's get checked.
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If something happens, let's catch it early.
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And he did that, and it saved his life
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Well, and how many of our challenges to care were
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just pay attention to your body?
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You know?
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Like, when you think about, you know, talking to Michael Chacko about this
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groundbreaking, like, cancer thing that's happening, and it's like,
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"What's your challenge to care?"
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And he's like, "Speak up if you're in pain."
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You know?
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Like, being able to identify that for yourself and not having to depend
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on somebody else to do that for you
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Well, in talking to Alane Zannotti about her story, which,
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you know, in our community, since she's the president and CEO of the Chamber
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of Commerce, everybody knows Alane, and Alane is a very upbeat, gregarious person.
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And then, to find out her story about losing her brother to suicide because
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he had issues with mental illness, one, I felt honored to have her open
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up to us and discuss it like she did.
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But then, two, it helped me see from the, I don't want to say caregiver's
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perspective, but Alane was the good child by nature, so to speak.
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Those were her words, not mine.
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But there was also this pressure to continue that because her parents were
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having to focus so much of their energy on her brother who was having issues.
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And when she started talking about it, I started thinking about people and
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friends and families that I'm close to, and how many times that happens where
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you have an individual in the group that is taking up everybody's attention,
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and I wouldn't say ignoring the other people around them, but not giving them
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nearly as much attention, and how hard that is on that individual to be second,
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third, fourth, fifth, whatever it is.
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I found myself thinking about Alane and her parents as much, if not more,
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than her brother, which I thought was very, very interesting for me.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Well, it has been sweet to watch their relationship, you
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know, Alane and her parents, and just to get to hear about how much respect
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and admiration she has for them and the road that they walked together
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that we didn't really know about.
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You know, Steve Irby, that's an example for me of, like, I know the
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name, KICKER, you know, and I've been able to benefit from things that
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he has poured his heart into, you know, like Block 34 that's out there.
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But like hearing his health challenge and that he is facing this chronic illness
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and actually had a kidney transplant, you know, and hearing the story behind
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that was such a gift to me of just seeing him as more of a whole version
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of himself than even I knew before this.
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Joe Akin (Host 2): I think I had my two biggest wow moments out of that interview.
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One was I had no idea that in the modern day, a kidney transplant doesn't mean
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you take one of the kidneys out and you put the other one in its place.
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He put the third one up in his abdomen, and I was just going, "I didn't even know
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there was room in there for it," much less that anybody would think about doing that.
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It just seems so—I don't know—futuristic.
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But then, the other thing that has really impacted me and my family
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was when Steve told us about how he got into the Mayo Clinic.
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I always thought that to get into a place like that was going to be this very,
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very rigorous and complicated process with referrals and all these different
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things coming from your primary care and others, and it wasn't that at all.
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He just got online investigating what they were about and did he think
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that they could help him, and he set up an appointment for himself.
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And that just blew my mind, and it really altered a course in one of the situations
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that me and my family are dealing with.
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So, yeah, there were so many big moments.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Not to mention that his mom is like a pioneer
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of that procedure to begin with.
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I mean, that's amazing in and of itself.
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That's great, too.
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And, you know, you talk about advancements, that's another thing
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I've been struck by, not having a healthcare background and not
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being—I'm not going to say that I'm not science-minded, but sometimes, you
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know, talking about technology, you know, it just kind of goes over my head.
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So, it has been fun to have more in-depth conversations about,
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"Okay, what does that mean?"
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And then, what does that mean in real life on the other side, on the patient side?
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And so, getting to hear about some of the things that we're doing, you know, just in
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pulmonary health, you know, talking to Dr.
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Roton about how his very grandparents had to travel out of town for that
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care, and that's what called him here to serve this community was great.
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But then, living it with Shyla's experience of like, "Hey, I'm having
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struggles with sleep apnea and I'm trying the CPAP, but it's not working for me."
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Like, just the fact that an implant is an option, like that's just really cool
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of how technology can evolve, some of the struggles that we're facing today.
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Katon Lunsford (Host 3): Yeah.
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And I think going back to like Dr.
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Chacko, he brought up a great point, like we can have all this great
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technology, but it's no use to you if you don't go in and get checked
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and know what you're dealing with.
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And so, I just think that was a really great point too.
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Like, we have all these awesome advancements in the medical field, so
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you know, they're out there for you.
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You just have to know, you know, your own body and what's going on n
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yourself to take advantage of that.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Absolutely.
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I love that.
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And probably what I love most about what I learned in season one is something that
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I already knew, but it just clarified that point for me of, like ,it takes
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so many people to care for one another.
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You know, you hear that about it takes a village to raise a child,
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but that's true throughout that child's whole life, you know?
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And so, thinking through not even just like healthcare systems,
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which I think that's important.
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You know, Chad shared that.
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He's like, "Yeah, I had a university doctor and I came to Saluda Medical
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for this heart scan and then I had to go to Oklahoma Heart Hospital."
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Like, it takes so many people working in concert sometimes to provide the support
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and care that we all need throughout our lives and that we're going to need.
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Yeah, agreed.
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And I think another takeaway for me was just the realization
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that everybody has a story.
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Everybody.
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Everybody we talk to directly on the interviews, other people
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that have listened to it.
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I'm running into people and they're saying, "Oh, I saw that
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particular episode," and then they start telling me their story.
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And it just helps me realize that none of us are alone.
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I feel like it.
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I think when you're in the middle of it, sometimes you feel like you're
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very isolated and on your own with your care group, be it your family, friends,
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whoever it may be, but you're not.
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And I think that the big thing is that people don't know what to do for you.
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I mean, that's what Lori kept bringing up.
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And sometimes it's just let them know you're thinking about them.
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It's not necessarily getting in their business, so to speak.
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A lot of people want to get in and get their hands dirty and help.
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But as someone who's reaching out to try to help someone, you've got to
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pay attention to what the other person is saying and what they actually
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need versus what you want to give.
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I think through these conversations, we're going to help people
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understand so many different things.
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And that's why I'm super excited about moving forward
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and getting into next season.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Well, I was going to say you opened the door so well,
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Joe, to talking about, okay, what did we learn this year, and then
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how is that informing what's coming?
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So, anybody want to, like, riff a little bit on that?
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Go ahead, Katon.
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Katon Lunsford (Host 3): I think I learned a lot that health affects
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everyone directly or indirectly.
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Going back to Alane, like it was her brother that was affected by this mental
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health, but I mean, it still affected her.
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And she made a great point that it's important to talk about it.
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It does you no good to keep it bottled up.
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And so, I learned a lot that it's important to have these conversations.
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It's important to talk about our stories, like Joe said.
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Everyone has one.
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And again, like health is such a thing that everyone's going to deal
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with, I mean, indirectly or directly.
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And so going forward, I'm excited to get to hear from more people in our
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community, hear more stories, and just how we can care for one another.
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And I think that these conversations are just so, so important.
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And so, I think they're doing our community a lot of good.
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And so, I'm excited to get to put something out into our community
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that is impactful and it's positive.
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And so, that's what I'm looking forward to for next season.
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Yeah.
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For me, going back to what I said before.
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In my job, I really feel like this podcast is potentially
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the most important thing I do.
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Obviously, I raise money for the hospital and foundation.
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That's clearly important.
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But getting the information out to people in and around our community,
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I feel is even more important.
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And I believe that this is the venue to do that.
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We just have to make more people aware of what we are doing.
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And I just can't wait to talk to people and allow them the opportunity and the
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platform to talk about their stories.
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I won't reveal anything here, but I was talking to a gentleman that
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we'll be interviewing, and it was a little bit of a press to get him to
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say he'd be willing to talk about it.
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Now, of course, he has to be completely on board.
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Obviously, we're not going to force anybody to talk about it.
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But once he started discussing it, you could see him, the
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emotions welling up because he knew he was helping other people.
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And in some cases, it's a different emotion, and I think it can be addictive.
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So, I'm really looking forward to opening this thing up in the next season,
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talking to more wonderful community members and getting the stories out.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): Well, and every story is just scratching the surface.
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I think that's what stood out to me.
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You know, getting to be in these conversations is great, and that's
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part of my job and has been for years.
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But getting to, like, listen back and then understand how people digest,
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you just realize that it's like, "Oh gosh, there's so much more."
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There are so many different angles to every single one of these stories that
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we're telling and that people are sharing.
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And so, getting a chance to do that again next season I think will be really fun.
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Trying to weave a little bit more of the why and the personality into
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each of these stories, because they are so personal to the storytellers
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that we're sitting across from.
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And that's one thing, you know, we never wanted this to feel like it's a Stillwater
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Medical podcast from the beginning.
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We wanted it to be a community podcast.
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And so, I'm hopeful that season two will get us closer to that goal.
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And it is just encouraging too though to be able to, like, now we've been
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able to share it with the world, and they've been able to respond.
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And one of the conversations we're going to have in season two is with
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a woman who just commented on one of our posts, and she was like, "Hey,
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I should share my story about what Stillwater Medical has done for me."
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So we reached out to her and we're like, "Share your story with us."
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And it's incredible, you know, just to hear what has happened in
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her life, because of this place, but then also too because she paid
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attention and she took those steps that she needed to take when she was
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experiencing a healthcare challenge.
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And it's just an honor to be a part of telling those.
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I think you guys might see a little bit more in-person storytelling next year.
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That has been a challenge.
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And Joe and I were talking about this, and Katon too, of like, man, it's been a
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challenge to join on video with people.
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You know, that's just a little bit different.
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It's a little bit further removed than I think so much of the work
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that we do day in and day out is.
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You know, it's all obviously very personal, very human.
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And so, we might have some more sit-down conversations with folks next season,
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and you might get to hear from those and kind of what those evolve into.
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Yeah, I'm really excited about that.
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When we started this, that's kind of the direction I was hoping that we
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were going and we went with the remote.
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And so, I'm excited to try this face-to-face in part because
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every time before I would do an interview, I have anxiety.
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It's like, "Okay, am I going to get the camera right?
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Are my connections going to be good?"
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I was just going, "Just let me get started," because
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once I get started, I'm fine.
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It's the stuff leading up to it that just drives me crazy.
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So, having someone in front of me, I think, I will get
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relaxed a little bit quicker.
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So,z I'm like, "It'll be fun."
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Abby Fox (Host 1): I agree.
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I'm looking forward to it.
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Okay.
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Well, we have ended every episode this season with a challenge to care.
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So, it's only fitting that that is how we end this.
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Do you all have a challenge to care that you might lift from one of the
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episodes that we watched, or just your own challenge to care after
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reflecting back on season one?
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Joe Akin (Host 2): I don't necessarily call it a challenge to care, but
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the thing that because of what we're doing, I've been learning, it's that
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we just, we need people to talk.
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You know?
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Again, we're, we're wanting this healthcare, the care of our community
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members to be a coffee table topic.
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We'll make it a coffee table topic.
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By discussing what's going on in your life and the things that you're
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dealing with in your health, you never know who it is you're going
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to help, but you will help someone.
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But you have to be comfortable with talking about it.
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Crazy enough, I had a small get-together yesterday of a group of people that
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had gone through a class together, and I was so happy because we
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started talking about colonoscopies.
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I have never done that in a public setting at a local pub.
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It was just, "This is great."
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I never thought I'd say that.
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But
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talk about your health.
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Talk about the stories of things that are going on in your family
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and the things that you've learned.
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It will help others, and it'll normalize the conversations.
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Katon Lunsford (Host 3): I like that, Joe.
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Kind of going off a little bit of that, I think, it's important to
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remember that you're never alone, and that the moment we allow ourselves
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to be a little bit vulnerable and, like, a little bit brave to share our
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stories, that's the moment that we open ourselves up to making a community and
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having more people who can support us.
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Because as Alane mentioned, like, people are out there who you can
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trust and love that want to support you and want to talk about what's
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going on in your life and your health.
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And so, it's just important to remember that you're not the only person and
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that there are people out there who maybe feel the same or can benefit
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from hearing your story, like you said.
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And so just normalizing it and, you know, having that little bit of courage to step
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forward and, you know, say something that might be a little bit vulnerable or out
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of your comfort zone, but there's just so much more on the other side of that.
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And so, that's been my challenge to care is, you know, sharing my story and
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hearing other people's, because we can create just so much more of a bigger
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community and a village for ourselves.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): I love that.
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That's so true, Kayton, in so many ways.
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For me, I think my challenge to care is just do the dang thing.
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So like, you know, the idea that you have, like, make it a reality, start doing
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it, and just keep doing it, you know?
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Because I think sometimes it's like something might not be exactly
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what we expected it to be, but that doesn't mean that's a bad thing.
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It means that it can continue to change and evolve.
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And so, obviously, I'm thinking about this podcast when I say that.
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But then, too, like, what is it in life that gets you
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passionate and lights you up?
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Because our nervous system behaves in a way that when we're doing work that
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fills us, like we're a lot healthier.
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And so, paying attention to, like, what does that for you, and then asking,
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are there new opportunities to kind of flex those muscles and get in that head
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space, I think, is helpful for all of us.
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All right.
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Well, that is a wrap on season one.
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Thank you guys for being in this journey with us.
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I feel like we were all very hesitant at the start, and we continue to just
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be amazed by what can happen when we show up, plug in the mic, and start
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having some of these conversations.
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For our audience, I would thank you for listening.
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Thank you so much for being on this journey together.
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We want to hear what you want to hear about.
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And so if there is something that you want to submit to us, feel free to comment on
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any one of these posts, or you can even email us at info@stillwater-medical.org,
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and we would be happy to start that conversation with you
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about what you want to see.
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In the meantime, it would really help us if you would like and review
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the show in podcast platforms.
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That really helps us get it out there.
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And also, go back and discover, you know, hopefully some of what we talked
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about, maybe there are episodes that you missed or things that you didn't
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pick up on the first time you listened.
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We would encourage you in the break to go back and listen to those.
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And then, we will be back in the fall to have a lot more
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of these great conversations.
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Thank you for joining us and being on this journey with us.
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We appreciate you.
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Joe Akin (Host 2): Looking forward to season two.
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Abby Fox (Host 1): That's right.
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Here we come.