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Beyond the Spirits w/ Verona Ghost Chasers & S.O.P.S. · Trapped Souls Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh a little late to the show here, but that's fine.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we're getting a little feedback here from somebody.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody that might have been me.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: We'll go from there.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_02: Just hear me twice.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm here with Rona Ghost, Travis, Paranormal Society.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_02: I decided to call this episode Beyond the Spirits.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, a couple reasons.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_02: Going Beyond the Spirits.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_02: And then we're going to talk Beyond the Spirits.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll wait till a few more people get on here.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_02: Anybody that has any questions, go ahead and ask.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: Again, Nacho from Verona Ghost Chasers out of Pennsylvania and Southern Ohio Paranormal Society.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: Obvious where they're from.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: Both very good uh paranormal groups.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: We had to work with Verona Ghost Chasers last week or two weeks ago, and can't wait to get with SOPs over there sometime in the near future.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna talk a little bit just about what's going on in the paranormal world.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: And again, people ask questions, whatever you guys want.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Did you guys see my post about the most haunted in Ohio that I asked?
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: I saw it, but I didn't read through all the responses.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: You're a little low there, Nacho.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Turn up Travis, did you hear it?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yes.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_00: I uh like you said I didn't get a chance to get a chance to the comments.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there wasn't much comments.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of people just um there's just a lot of people talking about like what I should look in the paranormal, like how I should look into it.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, we know that.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, we know that.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_02: So the the main reason I asked that question.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: Is that uh the echo's killing me here?
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the main reason I asked that question is because next year I want to do get and we can pick the places, but you know, it doesn't have to be our groups or whatever you guys feel like.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: But I like to do five places next year in Ohio, maybe beginning of the year, spring, come up with our own conclusion.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: What is the most haunted in Ohio, from what people say.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're you two, I can't say myself because you two are pretty well known, especially Southern Ohio Paranormal Society.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: You guys are getting out there fast.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh, I know I was shocked on it.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like uh, we was just talking about that last night, uh when we were wrapping up our uh first first event and everything.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: We got time.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want to try logging off?
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: See if that works.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see what happens.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: All right, anyway, we'll we'll keep it going.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you guys have taken off pretty fast.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's impressive for what you guys do.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_02: So that's what I was saying.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_02: If I like to get you guys, like one or two of you, one or two of my group, or just me, and one or two of Verona.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_02: He's from Pennsylvania, so he does a lot in Ohio.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, just go see ourselves.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: What is what can we say?
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_02: What is the most haunted in Ohio?
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, from our opinion.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, everybody's gonna have opinions, but I think it would be a good little you know, test, trip, whatever you want to call it, the recommendations.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: Then maybe later in the year we can get Nacho's side of it and go to Pennsylvania and do five out there, what people think is the most haunted out there for us to go check it out.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: You guys now, Nacho.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_01: Am I good now?
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't hear anything.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, that worked, whatever you did.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: I just logged out and logged back in.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: Turn it off and turn it back on.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, from South Carolina.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_02: There's some haunted stuff down there too.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_02: I heard so.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was telling him that I like to do the five most haunted in Ohio.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: Our three groups just go hit the five most haunted and you know, get our opinions of the five most haunted and pick which one.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, let's rate them in Ohio.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_02: Then, you know, toward the end of the year, we'll do Pennsylvania.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: We'll pick the five and go.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean I'm down for just about anything.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean as we can see, uh the other member, uh, the founder, uh Justin, he's down for it.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, Justin's always down for it.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I mean, honestly, I mean the way you guys talk about that funeral home, I think it has to be in play.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I was actually uh quite impressed with the activity that we got for the past two nights.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, because like when we first started out, I mean, that's the the first location we done.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um and like the first night, we was just kept getting observing, watching, and stuff.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: And but now since we've been there uh I mean after last night and everything, you know, we're almost up to 10 times being at that location just because it's right in our our backyard.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: But um sit there as soon as I went uh got there on Friday to start setting up our equipment and everything.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like we want to get in there early, use our ion generator, start pumping an MGN, sit there and now something, hey guys, it's me from sobs and everything you should owe me and everything.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: I hear this bell that they have tied to the rocking rocking chair and everything, and uh came around the corner and the rocking chair was already moving everything.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just disturbed someone and they got up out of that rocking chair.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, all right, this is uh this is gonna be a good time.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: I just told them I'm like, hey guys, look, uh, we got a couple guests coming, we're bringing in the public.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: They want to know about this location, the history of this place, and get to know you guys and your story and stuff.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: We would be very appreciative if you communicate with us, especially you, the one and everything.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, show them what you guys are about and stuff.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: And both nights we got really good activity and everything, especially with Patty and Lee there.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um we just allow Patty and Lee uh to kind of start roaming around and everything.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: They like hold off on telling us any of the history and everything, let us kind of start getting the feel for it and everything.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: And Patty just uh uh Lee start doing a um EVP sessions, little quick sessions and stuff.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: And he walked around the corner and he said he felt like all of a sudden he got poked in the chest and pushed backwards and felt like he was being followed, so he instantly went and played the EVP recording back and everything, and you can hear him and everything and react to being poked and everything.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: And shortly after that, when he's like, Was that you?
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: He caught a growl that came through it and stuff.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean it it it's it was great and everything.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: That uh the activities there is sometimes definitely off the charts.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I mean, I think between the three groups here, um, we each pick one, and then we have the you know, we'll put on Facebook and we'll get the last two.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, does that sound like a plan?
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: Or yeah, we'll be down.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't I'm not sure you've done a lot in Ohio.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, we've done a lot in Ohio.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, we're not gonna pick out we've done in Pittsburgh, in Pennsylvania.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're not gonna pick now, but I mean we'll we'll put ours three out there in the next couple months, then we'll have everybody else vote after that.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: What's up, Paranormal After Dark, Pennsylvania?
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and Mark.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, so let's get into a little discussion here.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Nacho, you posted something.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, me and you've talked about this before.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_02: RC Paranormal posted something about it.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_02: Followers.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: This is an open discussion.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_02: People are gonna ask questions, they can agree or disagree with me, agree or disagree with you guys.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, you saw the post with RC Paranormal about asking for followers, and uh he wrote like a lot.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: Then you posted something about parent unity.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people have been posting about you know, it's okay, and I think it got kind of taken out of context a little bit.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think they care that you're you know celebrating a thousand followers, twelve hundred followers, you know, whatever you guys get.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: Not you guys, but other groups.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I think he was more saying, and I agree with him on this, is when you look at someone's page, and I do a lot because that's how I ask who's coming on the show or not.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_02: If I look at someone's page and nine out of ten posts are just asking for followers, and they show no nothing out, you know, what they're doing, I don't ask them on a show, mainly because you're not showing anything.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like we're paranormal groups, right?
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: We're out there doing paranormal, or are you just asking for followers?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_02: Am I wrong?
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: Or I mean this is open discussion.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean that's that's a million percent.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: If if if you're a paranormal group, you should be putting out some type of content.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Where are you going?
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: What are you finding?
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um now now, shame on me.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: I've got seven or eight investigations still backlogged on my computer that I have not even looked at.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: But I I do share some snippets and and whatever I can um from investigations.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: But if you're not sharing anything about investigations, and you're and you're just asking for followers, what what what are you doing?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, what's the point?
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Is that that's my whole thing is we're all here for a common goal, right?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: But if you're just sitting there asking for, hey, can you guys follow me?
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what am I following you for?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, put it out there.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: What's our common goal?
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we're we're trying to figure out is this real?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: What's real about it?
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: Can we what can we prove?
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, we just go about understanding it.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, we disprove probably 80 to 85 percent of everything we hear.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: And the other stuff, we still can't prove that it's paranormal.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we'd like to think that it is, but we sure as heck can't prove it.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: Prove it.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know, but that's that's the goal is to be able to prove that there's there's something here, and here it is in in black and white, green and black, whatever color you happen to be taking in.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you guys took a phenomenal picture.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: What is it?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: I know what I see, I know what other people have said they see, but what is it?
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it kind of social media, it's kind of gone that way, though, where we're not putting paranormal stuff, not we, but a lot of people aren't putting paranormal stuff out.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's how popular you are, and we're I think some of us are getting away from the reason why we do this, or not, they got into it for the wrong reason.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, my opinion.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's one reason I have you two on the show.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, because you do it for the right reason, in my opinion.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, some people might disagree.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, paranormal after dark, you know, she says paranormal evidence.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: I have I have an issue with evidence, the word evidence.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: I call it interesting because nothing's ever 100% beyond a reasonable doubt in the paranormal field.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, your feelings, like the stuff you personally deal with, yes, but can you prove it to someone else?
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the way I always tell people it was very interesting.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: I can't say this is evidence unless something like grabs my camera and throws it at me.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's that's the way I look at it, and I use the word evidence a lot too, but comes down to it, it's just it's interesting.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_02: It could go either way because there's always going to be someone out there that disagrees with you.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and and some some groups have told me they won't put anything out there because the second they do, all these people that that know everything are like, well, that's that's not that that's not what you're seeing, or that's not that was, or or that was a car.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, everybody knows more than than what everybody else does, and they're the people that weren't there, and they've all got an answer for it.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I understand that some people don't like that reaction.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um 99% of the time, you know, I'll respond to them and say, hey, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: This was the situation, and this is what we discovered.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: And what you said, you know, you said it was a car.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there were no vehicles at the time.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: There, we weren't close to a street, blah, blah, blah you know, whatever, and try to give them a little bit back, but there are people that just already have their mind made up that what you're doing is is just a bunch of bull crap and you're wasting your time, and you're never gonna stop that.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, you're not.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, we took that picture at Grand Midway with the faces in the mirror.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I I went up there after and took probably a hundred other pictures, flash, no flash, all over that room.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_02: I caught nothing close to that.
• 13:19
  unknown: Right.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people are gonna say that's fake.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but not a lot, but some will, and I'm fine with that.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, I was there and you didn't have time to fake that.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, I didn't have time to fake that.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it it was interesting.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's not something that we went back and saw.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: Bird actually saw that why I was in the coffin.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: Then when I got out of the coffin, he was like, dude, I saw a face in the mirror.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: Then he went back to live and found on a live video and found it.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: So it was a good catch.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but there's gonna be people that are like, no, that's fake.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: All right, I'm fine with that.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know what I saw.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_02: Just trying to read the yeah, I'll maybe I know you have hours and hours and hours, but you put out some good videos on YouTube.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I suppose wow, we're going crazy here.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: While you're trying to read on some of that, I'll I'll I'll jump in and everything.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um like uh the whole follower and everything.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, at first, like when we first started out and everything, I mean we wasn't asking, but we was just giving thanks uh on on the milestones just because I mean we we started in on April 9th and everything, and now we're like 1.2 or something like that.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I mean, for us and everything, and we're just kind of like how uh Nacho said and everything and other people.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we we are a little bit behind on from our two past investigations, trying come through some of the stuff and it uh possible uh uh interesting evidence that we got and everything to upload and everything.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: But we always try to make sure, you know, to be active and everything, and the people that uh help bring us to where we're at now and everything is just by sitting there shouting out each day that we can and everything, tagging teams and everything to show the love that we received back.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean I I always appreciate all the followers.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's yeah.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh yeah, that's not what I'm saying.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but I like I I've seen RC's uh post and everything, and I agree with the the whole um asking for followers and stuff because we're I'm always trying to follow back pages and especially other paranormal pages and everything.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: But before me or Justin click that follow and everything, we're also going through and see it's like, okay, are they posting evidence and everything or and try and give back support and everything if they're asking for it and stuff.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: If not, they're just asking for followers and stuff, then we're not going to kind of help them out.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because the way we look at it is if we're following you and everything, we're we're you should be in the same reason like we are and everything to try to understand the unknown.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it should be interesting to you.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yes.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: No, I mean that's I totally agree with that.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I think a lot of people took RC's comments out of text.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I actually mean them tomorrow.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_02: We're doing a Madison seminary tomorrow.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: What's up, Chris?
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: How you doing, man?
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'll talk to them tomorrow about it a little bit, you know, but I believe that's where he was going with that.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I do like you, I go through everybody's page, you know, and I'll go on their YouTube also, because there's a lot of people that use you know Facebook just as saying, hey, what's up, and they post everything on YouTube.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: I have no problem with that.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to do that more because I'm trying to get more YouTube followers, and that's just uh boost up my YouTube page.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, not asking for followers, but that's where the majority of my stuff is right now.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I just got an Instagram, which I hate, but you know, I was told I had to.
• 17:15
  unknown: Yeah.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: We're so like we got Instagram and TikTok and everything.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: And Instagram and TikTok uh we're way behind on because it's just it seems like there it's more they want the actual videos and stuff, uh, especially TikTok.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean it's videos or you sit there, figure out how to sit there and uh throw a bunch of photos together and stuff.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's like Facebook and we're trying to get on our YouTube and everything, try and uh uh cut up some of our past live streams into segments and everything where special one uh where we didn't even stop the whole Facebook live stream, it's like six hours long.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's like no one's gonna sit there for six hours straight.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, by the rule of thumb on when I go on YouTube, if it's more than an hour, I'm probably not watching it.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: And um the the uh what's her name?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Paranormal quest, they put out videos that are an hour and a half, two hours long, and sometimes they're three hours, and I'm like, guys, come on.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: I I can't I can't invest this kind of time into it, and I don't want to break it up over two or three days.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: So if it's much over an hour, I'm probably not gonna waste my time to watch it.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: No, I mean, most of the majority of my videos are these podcasts.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's where I'm at right now.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I do some investigations, but you know, not so you probably saw I'm terrible at taking videos, like I always forget my camera.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: I lost my flashlight at Midway.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I have a lot of recordings though, so it's kind of hard to put a recording on a video.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: No, I mean, like you said, just followers are followers.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think there's one time I asked for followers, I was stuck at 88 followers when I first started for like five months.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I just wanted to do Facebook Lives, and you need a hundred.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I asked them, like, hey, can I get 12 followers?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, just so I can hit 100, so I can do Facebook Lives for my friends at work and everything.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: Because they keep asking they keep asking me to watch my videos.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I can't do videos because I don't have a hundred followers.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, and now I think it's like you have to have like a hundred followers, and they uh depending on the page, because like somehow we start our page up as a business page, so it has to be active for uh it was had to be active for at least 60 days before you even could go live.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, yeah, it was uh so I think like I think it was like Darkseed Paranormal.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Correct me if I'm wrong, they jumped on and said, Hey, follow this dude.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: And next thing I know, I'm like 800 some followers within like three days.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I appreciate it.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: I was going for a hundred.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'll take 800 though.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: So in a par what else in the paranormal world that's happening that you know, there's a lot of my post, my post about pair unity today was was a little different than just people asking for uh followers.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you know, wow.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: We try to do uh our own thing, stay on our own lane, and we really like to do collaborations.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: We like to, as you know, we like to bring people with us.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Number one, everybody gets to see what somebody else does.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: You can learn from somebody else, they can learn from you.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they do something that you don't do, vice versa.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: So you're helping each other out, and that's to me, that's that's a big deal because, like I said, we're all we have all got the same ideas for this.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so that that's part of part of the thing that you know, I really enjoy this.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: I get to meet people um that I otherwise would have never met.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I I've made some really good friends uh just in the last say year doing this, uh going places and meeting people and whatever.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um but my whole post was there's a group and I will not mention their names.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, there's a couple groups, um but if their people go with another group, they get mad and they're like, You can't be in our group anymore.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: You you have to be a one group person.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and that to me that's not what this is about.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: If if you're not investigating, why can't your people go with another group and learn?
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: Or teach somebody else something, or whatever, you know.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, you you can only be in our group.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: And to me, that's that's very sad, and it's like uh we we know everything, and and there's nothing you're gonna learn, and or you're gonna learn the wrong thing, or you know, I just my whole thing is stay in your lane and and drop the attitude at the door.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody's better than anybody else.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, everybody does things their own way.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: And to to stop somebody from going with another team because you don't like it is just it is childish.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's very childish.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: And it just it it really ticks me off.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm very mild-mannered.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't get too upset over stupid things.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: But this one just like you might as well hit me over the head with something because it just it just hit me the wrong way.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: And and you know, you you run your group the way you want to run your group, but you will lose people if you do that way.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: I agree with you because I mean my group's like seven, eight people right now, and like tomorrow it's me.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's me going with RC paranormal.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh some people back out, you know, family stuff, whatever it happens, whatever, but I'm more leaning toward collaborating.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's what I'm like.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: I honestly I just want to go collab with other groups now.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because Nacho, I got to meet you, and it was kind of weird because you you know, shook shook your hand, little bro hugged it out when I met you, but it felt like I already knew you.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like, but it was finally that's the first time I actually met you in person, but it kind of felt like I knew you through the 85 emails we have and everything else that we did.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: But no, it was uh it was great.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I haven't problem like when I go to investigation, I get zoned out just to investigate, so I end up sticking with Bird most of the time and need to investigate with you guys a little more, but it happens.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sure there'll be future investigations with that that will go do that.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the same thing, you know.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: I I I kind of stick with my people and make sure that they're they're getting what they need, and then after you left, I'm like, damn, I didn't really get to investigate with Ryan, you know.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: But I I want to make sure that the people I'm with are getting what they needed.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean that's what's about.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, what there's a couple common goals we have in the paranormal world.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: Have fun and try to figure out the unknown.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: That's what we're here for.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: So um, Chris Stamps writing a whole bunch of stuff.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, West Virginia Panera, uh, paranormal girl.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: What's up?
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: She'll be on a show next month with me.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, sorry for that.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: Having anybody from West Virginia, I'm trying to hit all 50 states.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's my goal.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, Chris, bullying does need to stop, but you gotta take it with a grain of salt, too.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_02: There's always gonna be bullies out there in the paranormal field and life in general.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: That's the way it is.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, don't pay attention to them, move on, do what you do.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: Cut them off.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: Cut them off, block them, move, remove them, send them packing.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: Don't give them your energy, it's unworth it.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's a big issue, too.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, people get bullied and they take it so personal, and then they just start posting about it nonstop.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's what bullies want.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: Just leave it alone.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: Just ignore them, they'll go away, trust me.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: We we've only uh done it once, caught out a team and everything.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: And at first, uh, we was just gonna leave it alone and everything.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: It was like about a month and a half, almost two months, of us being a team.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: First investigation, posted a video in the comment section of uh on uh iSpooks uh Facebook group and everything.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: And this one team just sit there and says something, just gonna leave it on like whatever, explain it and everything, and then just like something just didn't seem right and everything, and then went and looked and everything and just seen how that team was and everything.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: And oh, we don't use no equipment and everything.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're true psychic mediums and stuff.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: We we uh everyone else is the fakes and stuff because we got the power.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: And then I think it was uh Goose Flatts that first called them out when we was uh gearing up, getting some evidence and everything, and then we seen a team that just started off uh all female team, I think they're in Washington and stuff, made a post that they was bullied by them.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, so we joined in with Goose, one one big comment about it and everything, post about it, and then basically forgot about them, and I haven't even seen them really posting that page, uh that group page anymore and stuff, just because how they acted.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: The people are gonna keep at it.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I guess you have to call them out if they're gonna keep at it.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and uh kind of like find out find out and everything, because a couple other people like commenting on that thread too and everything.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: I guess this ain't the this team's first time and everything.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: This is kind of finding out like their second or third rebranding.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: So they've been a while around for a while constantly doing this.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: So and I guess after a while they're the the team name that they're running underneath is gets too tarnished and everything, so they disappear, restart as something else, but could still continue in the same way they have always been.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: Ryan has a great saying for uh the people who claim to be mediums.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: So I'll and I'll let Ryan share it because this this to me is this says a mouthful.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: What do I say?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, it's your saying, you say it.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't even remember about mediums.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie, there's so much shit that comes out of my mouth, I don't remember half of it.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you've said you've said it to me five or six times that uh if somebody calls themselves a medium, they need to prove it.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and they should be able to tell you something about you that is spot on in the next 30 to 45 seconds, and most of them can't.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: Now, there's a few, I've met a few that can tell you a lot about you, but I also feel like that wasn't hard of a that hard of a guess.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, so you know, I I'm not saying that nobody's a medium, but I I'm saying a lot of these people that claim to be, and it's usually the ones that are louder about it, or the ones that are faking it.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: But if you're if you if you're a true medium, then you can prove it in a matter of seconds or minutes.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know if you guys caught my other podcasts.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um I did uh two local people here, Ashley and Barb.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: Ashley, you know, she doesn't like to call herself a psychic medium, but um, I got to work with her at Riders Inn.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, she's pretty, from my opinion right now, I can say legit.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_02: Then Angie from Florida.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: I was not expecting, I'm not gonna lie, I wasn't expecting much.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: She reached out to me to be on the podcast.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: I expect this podcast to be like 45 minutes long.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I really don't know much about her because you know how I feel about psychic and mediums.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I tell you what, I had a great time.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, she taught me a lot about tarot cards, and again, she's I mean, go watch the podcast, she's very real.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_02: I can't say she's real as a psychic medium, but she's a real person, like she's really down to earth and was really like, hey, if you believe me, you believe me.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: If you don't, you don't.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I was I was fine with that.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, no, but I learned a lot from her, and that's why I do these podcasts is to meet people and learn.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I met a lot of great people doing these.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: I I did not think when I started these podcasts, it would go like this.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: And sorry, I'm trying to read and talk at the same time, but no, you're good.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's been it's been unbelievable.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think it started with you guys.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Rona Ghost Chasers.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you guys started the podcast my first one, and you know, after that, I I wish I could pick my favorite podcast, I mean, and say, hey, like these people are legit, and I've have not had one person that I can say they're not legit.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like everybody I've met, unbelievable.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Chris Dance is going off here.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: Chris always likes to go off though, so um at least Roger's not here because he'd be going off too.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we know the guy was picking on powder paranormal.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's out there, he's could talk about it more than 25 times.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it happens.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: Glad he's kind of let that go and just got back to it.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: So well, Chris, you do a good job of getting everybody's out there.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: So I want whatever Chris is drinking.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't say that, it was not me.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: Now, to be honest, this is the way Chris is.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: Chris, you drinking?
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we are beyond the spirits here, so it's it's all good.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_02: You guys have any questions?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: My trap souls mug.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: Damn, what am I even thinking?
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, come on, dude.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: I give you guys mugs and everything.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: Damn it.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um we are giving a giveaway tonight.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you saw my post.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: I have t-shirts, I have multiple different types of t-shirts, so I'll let you pick which one you want.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and hats, obviously.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: I have a problem with buying swag, but uh I will give a hat and a mug and or a t-shirt and a mug to somebody, and I'll send that out to you.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: So I have a list already who's been on, and we'll do that giveaway a little later.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: And we might do two giveaways, and uh not gonna tell you how I might have a t-shirt to give away as well.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: You have a t-shirt?
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we got Virato Ghost Chasers in here too.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: So um, my sister Donna Sherman is on here and she makes all of our t-shirts, and I have about uh 35 shirts in bins in there that we take to different paracons and stuff.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll we'll we'll give away a shirt too.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, there you go.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: Your little trap soles in Verona, it's it's all good.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: I design a lot of my I design all my own stuff, but I just buy a lot of stuff.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, so Donna and Deborah, you cannot win a Verona t-shirt.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's against the rules here.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_02: Chris is just going off here, dude.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: You're making jello shots for Halloween.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: I need some of those.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh my brother always wears his trap souls t-shirt.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's good.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: At least my brother's representing.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, trust me, he wears it.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: It would be his new favorite shirt.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: Second favorite.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, dude.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so Travis News.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_02: Travis's new father over there.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Our future little investigator in training.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: In training.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we'll give it a couple weeks.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, he he came up to the event uh um Friday, uh Friday.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: He was there for a bit.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: So what are you doing?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what is going on?
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Saying hi.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: And then that's not the same as him bringing on a baby.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: Did you just try to line up a guy bringing on a baby?
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I was thinking that too, but so just want a better look.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_02: So question for you two.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um November, December, I haven't figured it out yet.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we're doing Madison Seminary.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, find a date that works for you two.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: End of November, begin December.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: You guys are invited.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: So okay.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: He's going with us, so yeah.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you have to keep me posted on the date.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll I don't know, you guys are interested, but we'll have to see.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, hopefully it'd be toward the end of November.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: I know we have Shamley Hotel, beginning November, but we'll get put together.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: So let's talk about paracons because I've never done one.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: Verona, this is your question.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_02: Paracons.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know, cool and you get to meet a lot of people, but you are stuck behind a table the entire time, and it's hard to get out and see what other people are doing and what other people have, and then chances are everybody has pretty close to the same thing.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, we we we don't sell anything to get rich off of it.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: Everything that we sell, uh we go very, very close to the to the best on it.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: We we're not making money, we'll make a couple pennies off, we're not making hand over fists.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's more of a vehicle to get out there and in front of people and meet people.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we've gone to some smaller paracons that we didn't see a lot of people.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: We still had a good time, still sold a little bit of stuff.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: We've been to a little bit bigger paracon that we saw more people, but I I think it's more enjoyable as a group to go go there and see all the people that are already there rather than being a vendor.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to Johnstown next weekend um for the um Western Pennsylvania cryptid, whatever it is.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it's a two-day event and it it should be a blast, but you're kind of confined to your table, and you really you you miss out on so many things.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: You don't get to see the speakers, you don't get to see the personalities, whoever might be there, blah blah blah.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's it's cool, but maybe not as cool as what you thought it would be.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean I I see you're being stuck.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I saw you post that Johns.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: Was it Johnsville?
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm on vacation this week.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: I thought maybe I could take a drive.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, we'll see.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's not that far.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's like three hours, I think, two and a half hours for me.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_01: So it's it's about an hour from Pittsburgh, so yeah, you're probably you're probably three hours.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, three hours.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I haven't been to one.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_02: Madcon was yesterday in Madison Seminary.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: I had to work.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: But the last three years, I've had to work.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I kind of don't want to, I don't know if I want to do vendor stuff.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: I just kind of want to go and see it, kind of how it works and everything.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: Again, just to meet people.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of my my reason.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, like you talked about selling t-shirts and everything.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: I give more out than I sell by a lot.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: And it's and my hats are like I don't make profit off of them.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: I have guys at work that buy them.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_02: My logo's kind of just I don't want to say original, but the nuclear symbol people recognize.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: I've had one person in my life like look at my hat when I'm out, then look at me and say, 'Are you that podcast guy?' And one person that's all it took, and I'm like, hell yeah.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: No, actually, I tell I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I said.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, we talked about I talked about that with Emily Paranormal because she has that hair that it's recognizable from across the state, you know, purple braided and everything.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, do you get recognized?
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: She's like all the time, and it's terrible.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: So no.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: Father John's Brewing.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'm game, Chris.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, just that's uh, I'm pretty sure that's ran by um underground paranormal normal network to help run that place.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: I need to buy a place.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I I don't I don't think they own it.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: I think uh they just help uh they got the website set up for it and everything to help bring people in and stuff.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they're the ones that also helps uh the owner um Mike Burrow for uh the Bright Rough funeral home and stuff.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: No, I mean I'm game to try anything new.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: I think when we do our trip next year, it's gonna be places like this that we're gonna find the most, you know, paranormal type stuff.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna be you know Mansfield or Fairfield or Madison.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean Madison's haunted, but I want the most haunted.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm me personally, I'm leaning toward Bel Air House right now, um, for my pick, just because we had non-stop action for 12 hours.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_01: The first we had a very exciting night there, too.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: That was that was actually our first paranormal investigation we ever did.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_02: Was it?
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_02: Would you go back?
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: We we oh yes, we'll go back.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, definitely.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um now I did tell you that I picked up a follower that I had for almost a year, and I picked it up right there.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I thought.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: You underground paranormal network, yep.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome manner.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: If you ever guys guys ever get a chance to meet him and everything, uh he he's definitely awesome.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: Him and JW, they're uh they're the both that uh helped us uh kind of get get going in this with uh hooking us up with some equipment and everything and pointing us in the right direction.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean Toronto Go says Billy Creek Village.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_02: I've heard of it, but I've never really looked into it.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: There's an entire village, there's I don't know, 20 different buildings.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so they're all in different places of the country and they've all been moved to this one area.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's really interesting.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll have to look into that.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: Is that in Ohio?
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, it's in Indiana.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we're doing Ohio.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, Verona.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_02: We're talking Ohio.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's almost Ohio.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean it's almost Ohio doesn't count.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like Michigan's almost Ohio.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's not even close.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_01: Ohio Ohio never counts Michigan for anything, no meat kitchen at all.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're building a wall.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's a good thing uh Roger's not here.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: We don't talk about Michigan in Ohio-rated football team.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: No, um, Indian State Sanitarium.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: Again, come on, Chris.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking Ohio here, dude.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: That and that's right there by Billy Creek Village.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you you you could and the Monroe House is right there, and um what's the other one?
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: There's another one right there.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, is it the Haley House or something?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: Panna House.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so let's just get this out right now.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna do Ohio first, then we're gonna hit Pennsylvania, maybe Indiana after.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, this might be a couple year investigation, but whatever.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: Got time.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, that's all we got is time until we don't have time.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um close section, okay.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I mean sanitarians are I don't know.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_02: Once I get down to Southern Ohio, I might think funeral homes are a legit thing.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: So uh I mean broug Broadwell is what really started us and stuff.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh um like uh from when we was on the podcast and everything, how me and Justin, I mean, we always work together and everything, and then kind of find out that we both have a passion into the paranormal, like watching taps and everything.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, dude, I would love to uh go to the actual place and everything.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, I I know a guy that owns the location and everything.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm sure I can get us in for like a just a little quick uh couple hour private private viewing.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: We went and done it and everything.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: The only thing we really had was our cell phone recorders and everything, and got some good uh EVPs there.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then when we were sitting there just going back over it and everything, he's and we're like, he's like, I I want to do this for for real.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, sure.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, Yeah, I'm like, uh, because I'm already starting to make a a page for us.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean that that's what started us.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the Bravo for your home has been amazing for us on just uh some of the stories that we're getting from the spirits there and everything, and just trying uncover its past.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: Especially just the hit history alone and everything is uh we're big history busts and just trying to sit there and help.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the town itself has a close tie to us.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we grew up here our whole lives and everything, just right outside of town of Felicity, Ohio.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: So just sitting there trying to go from 1910 uh to when it was operating as a funeral home from 1910 to 1976, just trying to find a lot of um obituaries, what's the people that's been through there and everything.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like last night for our public investigation, we had people that's been to that for past events and everything, and they came back for uh uh to see us and everything.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, Oh yeah, we've been here and everything.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, since you already kind of know the history of the place, um we'll just uh charge you ten dollars and everything, and just for the investigation where we're not even sitting there going over the history since you know it.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_00: And we was getting responses of a spirit that possibly might have been in some type of war and everything that either came there for a funeral or something.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um talking about like a nerve agent and then uh mention like the bows of a ship and everything, um, fire and smoke.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I've been a little bit today and everything, just trying to see if I can find any possible um war veteran that been through there for possible funeral.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, again, you guys have done a great job down there.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um the stories you told me, like I'm just I thought about like three days ago.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I have to get to that funeral home sometime.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, we are possible looking at um, because we had a lot of people sitting there asking us to do an event for next month.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we're going to run it past uh the Underground Pernal Network, Austin, and everything, uh, see what he thinks.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure he's gonna give us okay, but we're looking at maybe doing a Halloween style event for that location of a public event, or sit there and try and self-take us ahead of time and everything, and where it's only a select amount of people.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: Just I mean, the funeral home itself, I mean, it is some remodeling stages.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, both nights we only had like a group of five people that came to do it um by gen flick.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: They showed up because they commented on the post and like uh this is an actual public event.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm I replied, I'm like, Yeah, they're like she's like uh okay, um, I'm looking for someone to go with me.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: And oh, I got my sister coming and we'll be there.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: And they're they're from Lancaster, Ohio.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: They drove two and a half hours for the event Friday night.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that they uh it's like look, you guys are a paranormal team, you kind of know what we're doing.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: We got three people from the public.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna kind of cater to them.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: Take this opportunity and do your own thing.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_00: If you get something, let us know and everything.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, they got quite a bit of good interactions.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh trying to catch up here.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Grafton Elementary School, Post Town.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_02: Posttown was cool.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: I liked Post Town.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: Post Town was really cool.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: The thing with Post Town, not gonna compare it to, but they had like one dark room there in the base.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like you know, Madison.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: Madison, you get stuff all over the place, but there's two dark rooms there that I'm gonna hit tomorrow night.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um I like what Chris said about the village.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's a whole town.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: UPGN helps uh I think they have like 20 buildings or something that's paranormal related there that you can go and tour and stuff.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, I think that might be on our list for next year for us to do uh on how you talk about haunted locations for Ohio.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_02: Next year, because I'm talking too much.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: What's your big uh what's your plan next year?
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like what's what's the goal next year?
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you guys have that goal.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: We try to do two to three investigations a month.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if it's if it's a big one like you know, like Tala, that's gonna dip into the budget to make it a uh you know a a lighter month.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, if if we can keep the the the investigations down, we try to do two to three to month.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: We we want to hit as many places as we can, and we're not we're not afraid to go back to the same place.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean there's I would I would love to travel out west, I'd love to go to New Orleans, I'd love to go to St.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: Augustine, you know, those are all things that you know probably aren't going to happen in the next year, or maybe even two, but they're things that are on our list.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: We we just want to be out and and doing what we love to do.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean we have a bunch of places that we say, oh, we want these for next year, but we could probably fill next year's calendar and then the following year's calendar with just what we think we want to do next year.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um the Dunkirk Lighthouse is one of the ones that we want to do next year, and uh Sibling Paranormal Sibling Paranormal just went to the Dunkirk Lighthouse last week or the week before.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I haven't really talked to them about it, but they said they had a good time.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely a place that we want to go to.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um big plans next year.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh for us and everything.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_00: I know um uh most of our core group over the four we've been talking about.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um we definitely want to try to go to some of the paracons next year and everything.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh just not not to be a vendor, but just go and just meet the teams and everything that normally goes there, even if they're selling and everything, just to kind of see what uh actually meet them in person and everything, and learn from them and everything, and just to get to experience that.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then uh definitely want to try and do more collabs.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we started a little bit late in this year and everything.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: We're trying to get in some, but next year we definitely want to try and go to some of uh places that we heard from other people.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: I know Pat and Lee wants us to uh join them and everything.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh most likely be like a next year on a big event and everything that they want us to join and everything.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: So uh, but definitely want to try and get more uh more uh investigations in and do the paracons to experience that.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean collaborating, I can't say it's underrated, but I think it is.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_02: The more I get to work with other groups, the more I get to talk to other groups.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um I said before, it's unbelievable.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean uh and like you said earlier, I mean, it's a good learning experience and everything.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: You might uh think of the way that you're doing and everything uh is working out real well and everything, and they might show you a new twist on something and stuff, or open your eyes on a new way to go about on doing something.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um can't remember the group's name, but like uh they do a the um uh basically a states method, uh, one member and everything.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: She goes, hooks up the spirit box and everything to the headphones and just meditates for about 15 minutes and everything with a notepad and just listen to the spirit box and I ask no questions, and wherever she hears that the spirits communicate, she writes down and everything, and then they look at it back later after the investigation to see if what was said kind of matches up throughout their investigation and stuff.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's just great.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, just uh I'll find a place in the in the building or on the grounds by myself and everything, pop in my uh pop the headphones in the SP7, have my journal, and just start dropping down what I'm hearing.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I actually do that, Travis, before before we go on an investigation, I do that at home.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: I just sit quietly, put it on and listen, and I document every word, and you'd be surprised at how many of those words that come through relate.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that it's 100%, but you know, we went to the DOS house, um, and we had never met the ladies from the DOS house before.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't know anything about it.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_01: I got down this whole list of words, and I kept getting this name and it was what was the name that I got?
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember what her name was.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um anyway, it would end up Oh, I kept getting the name Molly.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: And it came up uh nine or ten times, and every once in a while it would be I would say, you know, I would write down Molly, blah blah blah.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then I would next thing would be like no and then keep going.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_01: And then at the end of it, I said Molly again.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it was like hot, it was like no, hot, heavy, hard.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm done.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, then when we got there, the name was actually Holly, and they were telling me, You idiot, hot, heavy, hard.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_01: It starts with an H.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's Holly, not Molly.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's one of the ladies' moms.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: The lady that got them into this, she had passed away, but she had got them into this, bought the house, and she's the whole reason for this.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: I had no way of knowing and I and I was hearing Molly.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: Well, obviously, she was saying Holly, and she's telling me, You're an idiot.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm telling you, Holly, listen to me.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that that to me that was huge, and I think that was the first time I ever did it.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know why I started doing it, but I do it before every investigation now.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: 20 minutes, dead silence, and just listen.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: Don't ask questions because you really you don't want to investigate in your house, right?
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: You you don't want to bring anything in.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't ask any questions, I just think about the place.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: And if I know anything about it, that's what I'll think about.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, I just meditate on it.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I I'm telling you that there's every investigation, I can go back and pull 10 words out of here that meant something solid.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, spirit box is tough.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's not for everybody.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you that right now.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's people that zone out, you know, you touch them, they're swinging at the end.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not that one.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I can pick out majority of stuff that is said, but it's it's not for everybody.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_02: Estus is not for everybody.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh like we we got uh so we got the SB7, I forget the other brand name.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh got it from Amazon uh by uh paranormal team, uh Cody and Corey, I think.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh their version, yeah, their version.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then we got one um by IDC devices, uh it's the direct link.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: And there I have luck with the direct link.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um the one member of ours is uh Cole.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he has a good connection with the direct link because that there uh uh it's made to use you as an antenna and everything.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_00: So um if I uh if I remember correctly, because all the times I try to use it and everything, I never really have a luck uh um, especially at the Broadwell's house and everything.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: My uh my go-to is the SB7, using that to communicate with them and everything.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_00: But um I believe uh you go ask uh you hold the down where the antenna is supposed to be with your finger, you ask the question, and then when you release is when you should get a response and stuff.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_00: Most of the time it's just static and everything, or I can tell it's a radio station.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: But when Cole, our member, uses it, I mean he he is the the antenna for that device.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: It it loves loves his energy.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's like my daughter.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_02: I I call my daughter the Essex Queen.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_02: What she says relates to us.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_02: I've had other members go on and just say, like, murder, death, kill, you know, stuff like that.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like, no, come on.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_02: My daughter, when she usually speaks through the us this, it's questions we ask, they're answering.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I always call her the uses queen.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, full spectrum camcorder, yeah.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_02: I don't have one, so everybody knows I always forget to take videos.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_01: So do you guys know uh Jay Blackburn that's on here with us?
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_01: No, I do not.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_01: So this is Dr.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_01: Jay Black Blackburn.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_01: He is a he he is uh the shit, okay.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: We we we've taken all these classes, right?
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um paralarning classes to get get these certificates and stuff.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Jay had gotten them already and it kind of inspired me to get them.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_01: But and and Jay, you can tell us about it, but he has like a PhD in metaphysical science, and he is like the real deal uh and just one of the uh nicest uh uh guys you will ever meet in this uh uh in this field, and is he is uh he's he's incredible, and he's been a big uh uh reason for for me saying I need more education, and you know, and I see he has his PhD, and I'm like, damn, I don't know if I'll ever get that, but people like Jay he specialized in paranormal science.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so this guy is uh like doing what so many of us would love to do.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_01: I just wanted to give him a shot.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_02: All right, so my brother, I know why he's asking this because he hates me for this.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I'll set this up real quick.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: We were at Bill Manor.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_02: He might I took my brother for his first investigation, it was just me and him.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, he had a good time, a lot of activity.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_02: So we ended up going back like a month later, and the way I do investigations is I send one person in there before anybody else, just get the feel of the place.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he kind of got freaked out the first time, so I was like, he doesn't know yet, but he's going solo.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_02: So we were doing a Facebook Live outside.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, hey, I'm gonna send Derek in solo.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why he's asking, How do you what are your first steps when you arrive at a location?
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I know my first step would always be to send Derek in by himself.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, Derek.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: We don't really have a a first step.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_01: We just kind of go in and let the house or or the facility, whatever we're in, well let the fit facility tell us what what we should do first.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I walk around, I talk to the spirits, I thank them for letting us come in, blah blah blah.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_01: And as I'm walking, the the location will tell you where you should start.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I think that's why I do it though.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's like kind of I just want one person to go in and get the feel.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's not an investigation.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_02: I think I talked to you about this before, it's not an investigation.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's just walk around and get that feeling.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, the attic feels bad, the basement feels bad, room seven feels bad.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um I don't want you to stop.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you want to do a recording, that's fine.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_02: Most of my team won't do that, but it just kind of gets a feel of the building.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_02: So I always send one person in.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I have anybody that would go in.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Mark would go in by himself.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: Dan might go in by himself.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_01: I shouldn't say I don't have anybody, but Mark has been with us more lately.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Dan's only been with us a few times, so typically I don't have anybody that would feel comfortable going in by themselves.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Derek was one time and I sent his ass in there, so I didn't care.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's my brother, I can do that, so I mean and he did it.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_02: It was great.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_02: So um, do you guys have anything, Travis, that you guys do before?
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_00: Or uh, I mean, uh, like the barbell and everything, um, even though we've been there a lot and everything, um, normally one of us or we'll just go in and still announce ourselves, let them suppose know who we are, which I'm sure that by now they they know and everything.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_00: But while we're setting up and everything, we're not thinking about the investigation.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: We're just sitting there listening to the building and just opening and trying to open ourselves up and everything to get the feel of it to see what location might be our first and everything, what might be the good hot spot to start off with and everything.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Jonesville rest home when we went there because that was our first new location to us ever there during the tour and everything.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_00: I was just uh kind of listening to the tour tour guide and everything, the owner.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_00: But I was just really getting the feel of the place, and then when we start setting up on cameras and everything, it's like, okay, where do we want to go?
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I I personally want to start off on the what they consider, I guess you could say the basement and everything.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm like, I want to start there sit by the smoke room and everything, where we have it because it's a three-way, um well, more of a four-way because you come down the stairs, then it opens up into the wings, and then straight ahead is where it goes into the back room for the smoke room.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, a lot, a lot of stuff has happened in each other's rooms and everything.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I just want to kind of be in the middle, set up and everything, tried a little bit of EVP, then that was our first time doing the flashlight method, uh, using the mag light and everything.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_00: We set it up and everything, and Justin had the best communications he's ever gotten and everything with a spirit named Victor and everything, just communicating with Victor that was a school teacher when uh a school used to have been on that ground before the rest home was built.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've heard a lot about that place lately.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's been popping up a lot.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh yeah, um mixed reviews and everything.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_00: I I know one team's had had an issue and everything uh there.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_00: Most of our evidence that we haven't gone through and everything, uh nothing kind of so far of what we went through has interfered with our evidence and stuff.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_00: So we're still a little bit undecided on it and everything.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_00: But there's definitely a lot of activities there and everything.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_00: Some might be a little bit questionable on what the owner is kind of saying, but I mean that's neither here nor near my place to kind of say.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_02: Stage is on.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_02: So uh what are we water for PA and investigate the Eagle Hotel and the chestnut?
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_02: How many places you want to go, Verona?
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so that that that place is they're across the street from each other, and they're fifty dollars a night.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, we're we're in.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and no, the down downfall is you can't stay there overnight.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_01: You have to have another place to sleep, but they're they're both phenomenal.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_01: You should probably limit it to like five to six people max per building.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_01: But if you rent both buildings, you can do them in one night, or you can rent both buildings for two nights.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it it's it's it's it's a it's a great place to go.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_01: Eagle Hotel was off the hook.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_01: We were there.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_01: We got our best EVP ever right there.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I mean, again, set that up and we'll figure it out.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know me.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I drove four hours back after doing Midway, so not gonna lie, that was rough.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, this is up by Erie, so it wouldn't be that far.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's that's not bad, but I mean, yeah, I mean, that was a rough drive back, especially bird doesn't know how to drive stick.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know anybody that's 49 years old and doesn't know how to drive a stick shift, but which is window tense.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I almost stopped.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_02: I was like a half hour away from home.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_02: I almost had to pull over and sleep.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_01: Who was just waking up about the time you got home?
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I was up like 27 hours straight.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, whatever.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_01: Dan Harris asked if what what investigation, if any, was the one that had you freaked out the most, I suppose the most negative feeling.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'll start off because I have no problem telling the story.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_00: So it was our second uh I would say second official time doing the Broadwell, but first time as a legit team.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_00: Me, Shauna, Cole, and Justin.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: Shauna, she was uh already upstairs, but me, Cole, and Justin, we were coming out of the basement, and Justin's leading, leading, going up the steps, Cole's in the middle, and I'm the last one, and we just kept like getting observing, watching, and everything.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_00: You need you to get out and stuff.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, we're respecting and everything.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_00: And since I'm the last one coming up the steps and everything, all of a sudden, like the back of my neck hair stood straight up.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_00: I felt we all felt a cold of uh cold air rush up past us, and then I heard audible footsteps coming up behind me.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_00: Freaked me out and everything.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, I'm 350 pounds of loving.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_00: I started moving up them steps, which made them other two move real quick.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_00: And by the time uh like Justin turned around and Everything I'm already beside beside him and everything up on the first floor.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, What?
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, I'm like, you felt the cold air, right?
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, yeah.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, did you hear the footsteps?
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I thought it was you.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah, after I started moving.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_00: So both of them went back down and they're like, uh, let's go.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, no, dude.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, something chase me.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm I'm good for now.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_00: And when they when they went down and everything, camera died on them, so they couldn't capture it, which is a shame.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, I even heard it and everything.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: You could heard stomping, going away from the bottom of the steps back towards the bull room and everything.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like the spirit just like got a kick out of like ha gotcha and everything.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm done.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_00: Going back to my room.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_01: What's the most freaky place?
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_02: Nacho.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_01: The Bel Air House.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: Again, it was it was not because it was my first investigation, but the weirdest thing that's ever happened to me happened there.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_01: And this this was when I knew that I was gonna be hooked in this paranormal investigations because this this is just kind of blew my mind away.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_01: We were up on the second floor.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_01: And if you're familiar, go up the steps, and there are rooms to the left and right, right there.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_01: The doll room to the left.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_01: Over to the right is that little room that also has the stairway up to the attic.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_01: Was in there with three women.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_01: And we were doing investigation.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, you know, knock on something.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I step out the door and I'm looking down the hallway.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_01: There's a bedroom straight to the end, bathroom, and another room in front of me, and it's dark.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm standing there, and I'm like, can you do that again?
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_01: And as I'm waiting for a response, and I'm also standing at the top of the steps or near the top of the steps, as I'm waiting for a response, something cold like touches the back of my shoulder to the back of my neck, and then it continues to walk right through me.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_01: And so as it does this, I have no idea what the hell's going on.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm holding a camera in this hand, and as it went through, it took my breath away.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_01: I just I couldn't breathe, right?
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I kind of spun around, and somewhere I have the footage that as I spin, you see a black shadow go past my camera.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, one of the ladies that was in the room with uh in the room investigating with us was the psychic, and she turned around and she said, What's the matter?
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, You're the psychic, don't you know?
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm I'm ready to lose it because I'm like, What the hell just happened to me?
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_01: Deb comes over, grabs me by each arm, and says, Are you okay?
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_01: My left arm was ice cold, my right arm was dripping with sweat.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_01: How how does this happen, right?
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm like trying to bring myself mentally together.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, let's let's take a little break.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_01: So we all go downstairs, and I went outside, and I'm like, I was I was freaked out.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_01: And but if I lost it up there, these four three women were gonna be nuts, right?
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_01: So I go outside and I'm like, holy shit.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm trying to process what happened, and and even today I can't I can't process it.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how it happened, why it happened.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_01: But then I ended up leaving that place with a follower, and I don't know if that's why or that's when that took place, but to have something walk through you and your body have two different temperatures on either side is just something that I I I could never explain to you.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I was pretty freaked out.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I think for me, Bel Air House in Trans Allegheny, prior to um Bel Air as a whole, I believe, freaked me out.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, a lot of stuff happened, then the Trans Allegheny is just one instance that kind of had my core just like it was a flight or fight type of mode, and I fought so but I did take a step back.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like when I saw that shadow, I stepped back, thought about it.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_02: This is why I'm here, then I went after it.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um but besides that, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's that's why we're here, you know.
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's why we do this.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_02: We're not here to run out of the house screaming.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_02: So, all right, let's do this.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I we we've probably been on I don't know, 50 plus investigations, and I've only had one moment that I was terrified, and that was it.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, so it's not something that's gonna happen happen to everybody, or it's gonna happen often.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's just and I'm not afraid of anything, but that night I was like, what?
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_02: But if you go in expecting to be scared, you're not gonna get scared.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_02: No, I mean everybody wants that, like uh oh moment, and you're not so paranormal after dark.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_02: If you're still on, um, I do not do stickers, but if you want to swap stickers for a trap souls mug, I'm game for that.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, like we went into Bell Air a second time, high expectations, nothing happened besides whatever, it took my soul or something.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what happened, but I mean, I don't know.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a believer if you're not expecting much, it's gonna happen.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's the way it is.
• 1:12:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the coffin room.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_02: We went into that room at Grand Midway and got nothing on the spirit box.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's this method, then saw that face, then went back to the mirror scribe.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I tell you what, it's gonna take me a lot tomorrow night.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_02: Let's stare in the mirror, anyways.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna end this.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, again, join us next month.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_02: Well, obviously, put the date out there when we're gonna do this again.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_02: Bring your questions.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_02: What location that was Grand Midway in Pennsylvania?
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_02: Grand Midway, it's right by you.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it was once everybody left, it was it was dead silent in that place.
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like you could have heard a pin drop the rest of the night.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's what we thought about, it was silent.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we were talking about continuing investigating, but all the ladies went to bed, and I'm like, uh, don't want to bother them too much.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I wasn't care about bothering people there.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm there to investigate.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_02: No, it was a good place.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was fun.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I would go back there again.
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Again, Travis.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, congrats on the newcomer and future paranormal investigator.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um we have a baby onesie we can send.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_01: We'll send you a baby onesie, Travis.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_01: Sounds good.
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_02: Use a baby for free promo.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_02: That's uh it's all good.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh uh Justin Justin has one too, and everything.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I was gonna push the idea and start getting some uh baby onesies when we get some of our merch made and everything.
• 1:14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, that'd be cool.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_02: A little baby onesie with the little ghost.
• 1:14:18
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's cool.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_02: Again, all right, we're gonna end this because it's hour and a half in, and I keep saying that.
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, thank you.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody's gonna watch it after an hour or so.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no one's gonna watch it anymore.
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for after dark Pennsylvania still here talking.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 1:14:39
  SPEAKER_02: Good night to everybody.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_02: Hope everybody had a good time.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, next month, join us.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_02: We'll have a special guest on, ask questions.
• 1:14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um we'll see if we do another little giveaway.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_02: We never know.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_02: So, again, thank you.