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- 0:11Speaker 1: He's the bold reform it.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Tonight, Donald Trump issues US President Joe Biden an invitation
- 0:18Speaker 2: he doesn't dare accept as he fumbles yet again, this
- 0:22Speaker 2: time at the Big Noto meeting.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Let's do another debate this week so that sleepy Joe
- 0:29Speaker 3: Biden can prove to everyone all over the world that
- 0:34Speaker 3: he has what it takes to be president.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Love to see that there's now blood in the water
- 0:40Speaker 2: with a president clearly a mental decline. There were extraordinary
- 0:43Speaker 2: scenes of the latest White House press conference that I'll
- 0:45Speaker 2: show you also tonight. The craziest arts government grant I
- 0:49Speaker 2: have ever seen. I challenge you to think of a
- 0:52Speaker 2: worse one, and this when so many strands come and
- 0:55Speaker 2: afford groceries, another sign of these crazy times. Check out
- 0:59Speaker 2: the Lake just hiring for Channel seven's news service.
- 1:04Speaker 4: Venus the Planet of Love and Money is making some
- 1:06Speaker 4: final connections in Cancer before entering Leo on Friday. So
- 1:11Speaker 4: here's what's ahead this week.
- 1:16Speaker 2: And we'll ask you if the three day hour springs
- 1:18Speaker 2: curfew will be extended and did the voice make the
- 1:23Speaker 2: violence worse? Plenty more coming up to including a big
- 1:26Speaker 2: rap for the most conservative labor premier in Australia elephant stamp.
- 1:30Speaker 1: But first, a wild new global warming scheme.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Now, the only thing about this one is that it
- 1:39Speaker 2: punishes people silly enough and vain enough to think they're
- 1:41Speaker 2: saving the planet by buying an electric car. It's a
- 1:45Speaker 2: scheme that's generated headlines like this, could electric cars help
- 1:49Speaker 2: prevent blackouts? When in fact the exact opposite seems more likely. Now,
- 1:53Speaker 2: what's caused this excitement is a paper this week by
- 1:57Speaker 2: an Australian National University in MRIC. Now their plan is
- 2:02Speaker 2: fiendishly simple. How about saving our electricity system from blackouts
- 2:08Speaker 2: by stealing the power in people's EV batteries and batteries
- 2:13Speaker 2: of their electric cars. Let's steal that power from the
- 2:18Speaker 2: batteries of electric cars exactly when there's some kind of calamity,
- 2:21Speaker 2: you know, a big storm, maybe the knockdown power lines
- 2:24Speaker 2: to stabilized the system.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Or maybe a bush fire that might actually be desperate
- 2:29Speaker 1: to flee you jumping the electric current.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Now, this a and U study is based on a
- 2:36Speaker 2: test three these academics did when storms knockdown power lines
- 2:42Speaker 2: Victoria earlier this year, just when the state was really
- 2:44Speaker 2: a really short of electricity because of a broken power generator.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Wind farms also went offline. The system couldn't handle all
- 2:50Speaker 2: the yo yoing and shut down parts of Melbourne. But
- 2:55Speaker 2: up in Canberra sixteen electric cars trying to do this
- 3:00Speaker 2: little bit to help.
- 3:02Speaker 5: A new study has found evs could prevent power outages,
- 3:05Speaker 5: spreading to tens of thousands of homes during emergency outages now.
- 3:10Speaker 5: The report comes from the Australian National University and showed
- 3:13Speaker 5: how a fleet of just sixteen evs charging across Canberra
- 3:17Speaker 5: was able to rebalance the power during a major blackout
- 3:20Speaker 5: in Melbourne earlier this year.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Wow, the batteries of just sixteen cars could save Melbourne
- 3:28Speaker 2: from a major blackout where they couldn't and they sure
- 3:30Speaker 2: didn't ninety thousand homes that were without power, some for days.
- 3:34Speaker 1: But such engineering ignorance.
- 3:36Speaker 2: As many people these days cheering for an electricity system
- 3:39Speaker 2: that's totally powered by wind and solar, they don't know
- 3:43Speaker 2: how impossible that is either. Anyway, the lead author of
- 3:48Speaker 2: that A and U paper is doctor Biorn Sternberg, and
- 3:52Speaker 2: he said, well, actually no, these cars didn't produce that
- 3:55Speaker 2: much electricity at all. But you know he has ways
- 3:58Speaker 2: of turning this little six into making a real difference.
- 4:03Speaker 6: We had sixteen electric vehicles plugged into the grid here
- 4:07Speaker 6: in camera and officers or in garages of the Act government.
- 4:10Speaker 6: They noticed this drop in power supply and within seconds
- 4:14Speaker 6: started to discharge power to the grids. And now there's
- 4:17Speaker 6: only sixteen vehicles. They provided a very modest amount of
- 4:20Speaker 6: that power that needed to be found to rebalance the
- 4:24Speaker 6: exit of the coal plants.
- 4:26Speaker 1: But it's a sign of the.
- 4:27Speaker 6: Future where we'll have many more electric vehicles that can
- 4:29Speaker 6: do this.
- 4:31Speaker 2: In fact, this paper says that if we will get
- 4:33Speaker 2: one hundred and five thousand more of these cars responding
- 4:37Speaker 2: in this way, they would fully cover the back up
- 4:40Speaker 2: required for the whole of the Act and New South
- 4:43Speaker 2: Wales for a short burst. Now, at the moment only
- 4:47Speaker 2: Japanese evs can put electricity back into the system, but
- 4:50Speaker 2: soonberg reckons this will actually returning the power will become
- 4:54Speaker 2: a standard feature to save.
- 4:55Speaker 1: An electricity system.
- 4:56Speaker 7: Here.
- 4:57Speaker 2: That's really so shonky that we're now paying big manufacturers
- 5:00Speaker 2: to actually shut down when there's not enough power.
- 5:04Speaker 1: So intriguing scheme until you apply this to the real world.
- 5:10Speaker 2: I mean, say you there are huge bush fires and
- 5:12Speaker 2: they knock out the electricity lines like the lines that
- 5:15Speaker 2: went down and triggered Victoria's big blackout. Are your ev
- 5:18Speaker 2: which you were charging at home is suddenly drained to
- 5:21Speaker 2: save the electricity system and then the fires approach?
- 5:26Speaker 1: What are you going to drive?
- 5:28Speaker 2: Well, maybe storms have triggered another blackout like this one
- 5:30Speaker 2: in Victoria this year. The government drains are EVA power.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Maybe though it's not enough. There's still a blackout, And
- 5:36Speaker 2: there you are with a car that won't move and
- 5:38Speaker 2: nowhere to charge.
- 5:38Speaker 1: It again, What are you going to drive? And whose
- 5:42Speaker 1: car is this? Really? Is it yours? Or for the
- 5:44Speaker 1: governments to pilfer? And what next? You know?
- 5:47Speaker 2: Do they go around with the petrol cars they're exciphering
- 5:49Speaker 2: the fuels from the tank or you're asleep? I mean,
- 5:53Speaker 2: it's got to be an easier way to deal with
- 5:54Speaker 2: our failing power system, surely. And the good news is
- 5:59Speaker 2: Stillberg's paper accident accidentally hits on exactly that, and it's this,
- 6:05Speaker 2: how about we just stop the Albanizer government's ruinous push
- 6:08Speaker 2: to make us buy electric cars rather than petrol ones.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Because he doesn't say this, but Stenberg notes the astonishing
- 6:16Speaker 2: drain of electricity just from charging a few thousand electric.
- 6:20Speaker 6: Cars, while power ended up being cut to ninety thousand
- 6:24Speaker 6: customers in Melbourne. The equivalent of that would have been
- 6:27Speaker 6: to cut power to stop electric vehicles charging, and you
- 6:31Speaker 6: would only need six thousand electric vehicles to have the
- 6:33Speaker 6: same effect.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Wow, these six thousand cars are gobbling up that much
- 6:39Speaker 2: of electricity already enough to power ninety thousand homes. But
- 6:45Speaker 2: right now we have just under two hundred thousand evs
- 6:48Speaker 2: on our roads. But worse, under the government's plans force
- 6:51Speaker 2: us to buy even more.
- 6:54Speaker 1: We should have anything up to two million.
- 6:56Speaker 2: EV's by twenty thirty by some estlements. That's going to
- 7:01Speaker 2: take a hell of a lot of electricity that we
- 7:03Speaker 2: don't have. Isn't that going to make blackouts even more likely?
- 7:09Speaker 2: And isn't using petrol cars? Doesn't that actually sound easier
- 7:13Speaker 2: and more sensible in the meantime? Is petrol really that bad?
- 7:22Speaker 2: Join me in culture Wars is Ron Dean The Spectator,
- 7:26Speaker 2: Australian hosts of Outsiders on Sky News every Sunday at
- 7:29Speaker 2: nine am. I never miss it.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Rowan, do you like this idea of the government.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Stepping in and draining the batteries of tens tens of
- 7:39Speaker 2: thousands of electric cars to say, the electricity system it's
- 7:42Speaker 2: ruined with its global warring policies from blacking.
- 7:45Speaker 7: Out, what's okay, Andrew, because I've solved the problem as
- 7:51Speaker 7: many people who have experiences of evs or electric vehicles
- 7:54Speaker 7: has also solved the problem, and that is you have
- 7:56Speaker 7: to have a diesel generator alongside your EV. You've got
- 8:00Speaker 7: a diesel generator powering your electric vehicle. You can then
- 8:04Speaker 7: use your electric electric vehicle to power the grid which
- 8:07Speaker 7: is not working because it's powered by renewables. So the solution,
- 8:11Speaker 7: as always comes back to fossil fuels. But what a joke, Andrew,
- 8:14Speaker 7: I mean, seriously, the giveaway here is that the A ANDU,
- 8:18Speaker 7: you know, once one of the great respected universities of
- 8:21Speaker 7: the world, are spending their time tinkering around trying to
- 8:24Speaker 7: figure out wasting time figuring out, oh, what do we
- 8:28Speaker 7: do about the fact that renewables actually don't provide the
- 8:30Speaker 7: amount of electricity we need going forward. The academics have
- 8:34Speaker 7: realized that they're on to it, so they're tinkering around,
- 8:36Speaker 7: going under the bonnet literally and stealing your electricity to
- 8:39Speaker 7: hand it back. Because the governments who who are charged
- 8:42Speaker 7: with the job of giving us all energy have completely
- 8:45Speaker 7: comprehensively failed and will continue to fail as long as
- 8:48Speaker 7: they are on this mad renewables quest. But the other giveaway, Andrew, is,
- 8:53Speaker 7: of course, where does this study come from?
- 8:55Speaker 8: Canbra?
- 8:56Speaker 7: Now, what's the great thing about Canber. It doesn't actually
- 8:59Speaker 7: prove douice and a thing. It has this world, this
- 9:03Speaker 7: sea of money that it floats around, and there's endless
- 9:06Speaker 7: money there, and they take this bit of money and
- 9:08Speaker 7: that bit of money. They never actually produce anything. So
- 9:10Speaker 7: the Canbra mindset is, it's all there, the electricity is
- 9:14Speaker 7: all there, don't worry about generating.
- 9:16Speaker 8: It's all there.
- 9:17Speaker 7: Let's take it from this car and put it over there,
- 9:19Speaker 7: or let's take it from this battery and put it
- 9:21Speaker 7: over there, or let's take it from this dam up
- 9:23Speaker 7: in the snow and put it down there. The energy
- 9:25Speaker 7: is all there, let's just move it around. We don't
- 9:27Speaker 7: actually ever generate it. And the joke is, as you
- 9:30Speaker 7: brilliantly spelled out, can you imagine, I mean file this
- 9:33Speaker 7: under the what could possibly go wrong basket? You've got
- 9:37Speaker 7: a once in a five year emergency.
- 9:39Speaker 8: That's what the that's what the academic told is you
- 9:42Speaker 8: got your once in five year emergency.
- 9:43Speaker 7: Who knows what it is? Could be a bushfire, could
- 9:45Speaker 7: be a flood, could be an earthquake, who knows. And
- 9:48Speaker 7: suddenly you're desperate to drive away and get out and
- 9:51Speaker 7: get the family and their kids and head for the
- 9:54Speaker 7: hills to escape whatever this virus or pandemic or whatever
- 9:58Speaker 7: it is. And they can't want to get out of
- 10:01Speaker 7: the garage because Chris bow And is niked or the
- 10:04Speaker 7: energy to compensate for the fact that none of his
- 10:06Speaker 7: renewable energy is providing the energy needed in these circumstances. Andrew,
- 10:11Speaker 7: it's a huge joke, but it's philosophically, sorry you go, well.
- 10:17Speaker 2: No, philosophically, let me get you on that one, because
- 10:20Speaker 2: there's another aspect of this that only touched on there. Rowan, Now,
- 10:24Speaker 2: I know they're talking about will there'll be exceptions, exemptions
- 10:27Speaker 2: and all that kind of thing. I guess, you know,
- 10:29Speaker 2: I don't know quite how to be built in, but
- 10:32Speaker 2: the idea of governments treating your property, in this case,
- 10:36Speaker 2: your car as their batterercisely.
- 10:40Speaker 1: I mean, what what the hell? This is one way
- 10:43Speaker 1: the whole global woman that's precisely we're all little lands
- 10:47Speaker 1: in their colony.
- 10:50Speaker 7: That's precisely the points. And we've always said, I've always
- 10:52Speaker 7: said it's not a left right paradigm. It's the individual
- 10:55Speaker 7: versus the collectivest mindset. Labor have the collectivest mindset where
- 10:58Speaker 7: we're just bees or work drones or ants or whatever.
- 11:01Speaker 8: The collective.
- 11:02Speaker 7: The state owns everything. The state owns your car, owns
- 11:06Speaker 7: your energy, owns your home. Don't worry, won't be long
- 11:09Speaker 7: before they're draining electricity out of your home. I'm sure
- 11:11Speaker 7: they figured out how to do that with smart meters
- 11:13Speaker 7: or whatever else.
- 11:14Speaker 9: It is.
- 11:14Speaker 8: So they own you entirely, including your energy.
- 11:18Speaker 7: You have no agency, no individuality. That is the collectivist
- 11:22Speaker 7: labor mindset.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Well, it goes further than that, Rowan. I'll once switch
- 11:28Speaker 2: to another issue, but the same thing. Labor also thinks
- 11:31Speaker 2: it owns the obedience of its MPs. If Labor decides something,
- 11:37Speaker 2: you're a rat. If you break the you know, break
- 11:41Speaker 2: out and speak your mind. And it's against the party lines.
- 11:43Speaker 2: We saw that with Senator Fatima Payment quitting the Labor
- 11:47Speaker 2: Party last week because it wouldn't let a vote for
- 11:49Speaker 2: a Palestinian state right now. Now, I wish other labor
- 11:53Speaker 2: inmps would also tell us what they really think, but
- 11:55Speaker 2: about something important affecting Australians. And you take MP doctor
- 12:00Speaker 2: Andrew Charlton. You've talked about him on your show Rising Star.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Used to be Kevin Rudd's chief economics advisor, made a
- 12:08Speaker 2: motza representing a working class suburb. Now in twenty eleven
- 12:12Speaker 2: he've wrote a long sa nuclear power renewable, saying in Australia,
- 12:16Speaker 2: the objective of transferring to one hundred percent renewable energy
- 12:19Speaker 2: in the near future is.
- 12:20Speaker 1: A pipe dream.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Clean energy will cost vastly more than energy from fossil fuels,
- 12:26Speaker 2: and nuclear is cheaper and more reliable than renewable energy.
- 12:31Speaker 2: But Rowan, now that it's a labor MP, it's got
- 12:34Speaker 2: to part the stupid party line against nuclear, against the
- 12:37Speaker 2: Liberals plan for seven nuclear power plants. And here he
- 12:40Speaker 2: is selling his soul.
- 12:42Speaker 9: This is not a plan for Australia's energy transition. It's
- 12:46Speaker 9: a plan to do nothing and maintain coal. The truth
- 12:50Speaker 9: is that Peter Dutton has never been serious about climate change.
- 12:53Speaker 9: This is a proposal to maintain coal for fifteen years plus.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Family labor and piece do you think are forced to
- 13:02Speaker 2: rubbish nuclear power when they know Australia needs it.
- 13:07Speaker 7: Well, it's worse than that, Andrew. I mean, the hypocrisy
- 13:09Speaker 7: is staggering. But why it is really bad is that
- 13:12Speaker 7: Andrew Charlton wrote in his quarterly.
- 13:15Speaker 8: Essay back in twenty eleven.
- 13:17Speaker 7: I think it was he'd come back from the Copenhagen
- 13:20Speaker 7: summit where Kevin Rudd had distinguished himself by calling our
- 13:24Speaker 7: Chinese friends. Well, I can't repeat it on television, but
- 13:27Speaker 7: he had some colorful language. Anyway, Andrew Charlton wrote a
- 13:31Speaker 7: very good piece. He's a good writer. I put you
- 13:33Speaker 7: in the room there with all the negotiations. But what
- 13:35Speaker 7: he basically said was that he based his entire theory
- 13:39Speaker 7: around something someone had said to him at the Copenhagen conference,
- 13:42Speaker 7: which was that everybody in the world either wants to
- 13:44Speaker 7: save the planet or wants to save themselves. And Andrew
- 13:47Speaker 7: Child can argue that those people who want to save
- 13:49Speaker 7: the planet are the wealthy kind of virtue signalers, and
- 13:52Speaker 7: those who want to save themselves are the impoverished third
- 13:54Speaker 7: world developing nations and so on. And the only way
- 13:58Speaker 7: I could reconcile this was to have nuclear energy. And
- 14:01Speaker 7: he recognized that renewables putting words in his mouth, but
- 14:05Speaker 7: basically a luxury for the developed world to indulge. In
- 14:09Speaker 7: the developing world, the vast majority billions of people around
- 14:13Speaker 7: the planet nearly solid based power electricity, and the only
- 14:17Speaker 7: way to give it to them cleanly was nuclear energy.
- 14:20Speaker 7: So that same divide still exists. In fact, we need
- 14:23Speaker 7: more energy now than before, there are more people on
- 14:26Speaker 7: the planet.
- 14:26Speaker 8: So the guy's a complete hypocrite because he was saying
- 14:29Speaker 8: that correctly.
- 14:31Speaker 7: Over a decade ago, that the only way to get
- 14:34Speaker 7: clean energy and solve the problems and more energy required
- 14:39Speaker 7: for prosperity was nuclear energy. So what a hypocrite He's
- 14:42Speaker 7: done the exact same thing he's said alavor party and
- 14:44Speaker 7: his reputation rather than the planet exactly.
- 14:48Speaker 8: Nuclear power is it? You'll be honest enough to come
- 14:51Speaker 8: up and say.
- 14:51Speaker 2: It perfectly summed up, Ryan, perfectly summed up. Thank you
- 14:56Speaker 2: so much for your time. Really appreciate that.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Thanks so true.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Now, how long do you think Joe Barden can keep
- 15:04Speaker 2: up this fast? That is still mentally fit to be
- 15:07Speaker 2: president of the world's most powerful nation to run against
- 15:10Speaker 2: Donald Trump in the November election for US president is
- 15:14Speaker 2: now so terrified of having another brain freeze like the
- 15:18Speaker 2: one he had when he in his disastrous debate with
- 15:22Speaker 2: Donald Trump. That is now reading out almost everything on AUTOQ.
- 15:26Speaker 2: His glued to the auto Q, doesn't dare to lift
- 15:29Speaker 2: his eyes from the auto Q. Look at this from
- 15:31Speaker 2: the big NATO meeting over note, when Barden wanted to
- 15:34Speaker 2: honor the outgoing NATO chief Jen's Stoltenberg but couldn't afford
- 15:40Speaker 2: another verbal slip, didn't dare take his eyes off the
- 15:43Speaker 2: autocue even when he called up Stoltenberg, shook his hand
- 15:47Speaker 2: and talked about him, all while the man was standing
- 15:51Speaker 2: right next to him.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Souar, General Stoltenberg, where do you come for it?
- 16:00Speaker 10: So much of the progress we made in the Alliance
- 16:02Speaker 10: is thanks to the Secretary. He is a man of
- 16:04Speaker 10: integrity and an intellectual rigor, calm temperament. Moment of crisis,
- 16:11Speaker 10: consummate diplomat.
- 16:15Speaker 2: Because it's just on the left one on the right
- 16:17Speaker 2: one hardly days look at Stoltenberg and didn't. Meanwhile, Biden's
- 16:22Speaker 2: White House spokesman was getting controlled by reporters, Biden having
- 16:27Speaker 2: told Democrat politicians he just needed more sleep. You avoid
- 16:30Speaker 2: work after eight pm, because it wasn't so sharp after
- 16:33Speaker 2: eight He's sharpest before eight pm.
- 16:37Speaker 6: So say that the Pentagon at some point picks up
- 16:40Speaker 6: an incoming nuke, it's eleven pm.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Who do you call the first lady?
- 16:46Speaker 7: He has a team that lets him know of any
- 16:48Speaker 7: of any news that is pertinent and important to the
- 16:51Speaker 7: American people. He has someone or that is decided obviously
- 16:56Speaker 7: with his National Security Council, and who gets to tell.
- 16:59Speaker 2: Him that new Meanwhile, Donald Trump robbed it all in
- 17:03Speaker 2: at the rally with this challenge which Joe Biden, in
- 17:07Speaker 2: his state cannot afford to take up.
- 17:10Speaker 11: I'm officially offering Joe the chance to redeem himself in
- 17:14Speaker 11: front of.
- 17:15Speaker 12: The entire world.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Let's do another debate this week so that sleepy Joe
- 17:20Speaker 3: Biden can prove to everyone all over the world.
- 17:24Speaker 8: That he has what it takes to be president.
- 17:27Speaker 3: But this time it will be manned to man, no moderators,
- 17:30Speaker 3: no holes barred, Just name the place, anytime, anywhere.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Nor will Biden follow up on the challenge he himself
- 17:40Speaker 2: raised during the debate with Trump.
- 17:43Speaker 11: Then the debate, Sleepy Joe also declared that he wanted
- 17:47Speaker 11: to test his skills.
- 17:48Speaker 3: And stamina against mine.
- 17:51Speaker 1: On the golf course. Can you believe this? Did you
- 17:55Speaker 1: ever see him swing?
- 17:56Speaker 11: I'm also officially challenging Crooked Joe to an eighteen hold
- 18:01Speaker 11: golf match right here.
- 18:02Speaker 3: I will give him ten strokes aside, and if.
- 18:05Speaker 11: He wins, I will give the charity of his choice,
- 18:08Speaker 11: any charity that he wants, one million dollars.
- 18:17Speaker 2: The ratings would be gang busters joining me A Cameron Milner,
- 18:20Speaker 2: former chief of staff to Lady Leader Bill Shorten, now
- 18:23Speaker 2: director of g XO Strategies, and James Ashby, chief of
- 18:27Speaker 2: staff for One Nation Leader Senator Pauline Hansen. Cameron, there's
- 18:32Speaker 2: no way that Joe Budden can agree to this debate
- 18:35Speaker 2: probably any debate now is there?
- 18:38Speaker 1: No? And unfortunately Joe's got to go.
- 18:41Speaker 13: I mean, the sad thing watching a president in such
- 18:44Speaker 13: mental mental decline is that you last week he froze
- 18:48Speaker 13: in the debate. He was also a black woman or
- 18:50Speaker 13: black president. This guy has to go, and he has
- 18:53Speaker 13: to go because at this moment in history, we've got
- 18:55Speaker 13: the war in Ukraine or in near strong US behind
- 18:58Speaker 13: a strong NATO, we've got a Ran backed militia in
- 19:01Speaker 13: who he is, the Hesbala and hamas still in operation.
- 19:04Speaker 13: We need a strong US and quite frankly, Joe isn't
- 19:07Speaker 13: up to it for the next four months, let alone
- 19:09Speaker 13: the next four years. And what Jill Biden and the
- 19:11Speaker 13: Democrats are doing is tantamount to elder abuse. Elder abuse
- 19:15Speaker 13: Andrew because he shouldn't be there any longer. He should
- 19:17Speaker 13: be in retirement enjoying his golden years.
- 19:22Speaker 2: It's so true what you just said there cameraon. I mean, James,
- 19:26Speaker 2: you know the people is listening to that are telling
- 19:29Speaker 2: him to stay, people whose careers and even freedoms depend
- 19:33Speaker 2: on it. I mean, like his son Hunter Barden, who's
- 19:37Speaker 2: convicted criminal, is saying you stay as being a gatekeeper. Now,
- 19:41Speaker 2: his wife Jill Barden, who's on the front pages of
- 19:44Speaker 2: fashion magazines, and of course his staff.
- 19:50Speaker 12: Joe Biden's really got a look about him that I've
- 19:53Speaker 12: seen only in palliative care facilities. To be quite honest,
- 19:56Speaker 12: especially when that mouth is open, it doesn't look like
- 19:59Speaker 12: he's got his t and he's quite scary to look
- 20:02Speaker 12: at it. He looks like he's death warmed up. The
- 20:04Speaker 12: reality is Americans staring down the barrel of this next
- 20:07Speaker 12: election in November. To put it into perspective, if he
- 20:11Speaker 12: does another one of these debates, the fourteen billion dollars
- 20:16Speaker 12: and I'll say that again, fourteen billion dollars that were
- 20:19Speaker 12: spent on the last American election. They will not be
- 20:24Speaker 12: spending that sort of money this time because the donors
- 20:26Speaker 12: will dry up. And to put it into perspective here
- 20:29Speaker 12: in Australia, the collective of the Australian federal political parties
- 20:35Speaker 12: only spend about four hundred and eighteen million dollars, which
- 20:38Speaker 12: is still a lot of money, but compared to the
- 20:40Speaker 12: American elections where they're spending fourteen billion is just extraordinary.
- 20:44Speaker 12: So I don't think those donations are going to come,
- 20:46Speaker 12: particularly after his first attempt, but if he does line
- 20:49Speaker 12: up for a second, they're bugging.
- 20:53Speaker 2: Oh look, it's just dreadful. I mean, I'm laughing, but
- 20:56Speaker 2: we this is actually quite serious. This guy is the
- 21:00Speaker 2: fugative leader of the free world and that's what we've
- 21:03Speaker 2: that's the guy leading the defense against China, Russia, et cetera.
- 21:07Speaker 1: It's frightening. But talk about a lack of daring. Cameron,
- 21:10Speaker 1: I was just astonished.
- 21:12Speaker 2: You know, we had the Prime Minicy yesterday appointing a
- 21:15Speaker 2: special Envoyd to tackle anti Semitism, you know, let loose
- 21:19Speaker 2: by all these.
- 21:20Speaker 1: This rabble on the streets.
- 21:22Speaker 2: But he doesn't really, doesn't dare really tackle the pro
- 21:25Speaker 2: palace in the extremists. When he's let these protesters stop
- 21:30Speaker 2: him from using his own office, his own electoral office
- 21:35Speaker 2: since January. This is an office in Sydney. He's never
- 21:38Speaker 2: called the police on to them to clear them away,
- 21:40Speaker 2: never got them to shut it down.
- 21:42Speaker 1: What should he do?
- 21:47Speaker 13: Well, clearly he should get law enforcement to act. I mean,
- 21:50Speaker 13: we're not only dealing with his office being it's held
- 21:53Speaker 13: hostage by by the Greens activists in his like Electric.
- 21:56Speaker 13: You've got electric offices being vandalized, torched. You've got protests
- 22:01Speaker 13: to the opera house where they yell gas the Jews,
- 22:03Speaker 13: and the police stand by and let it all happen.
- 22:06Speaker 13: Where's the law enforcement Andrew? I mean, during COVID and
- 22:08Speaker 13: during the lockdowns, police were very happy to be heavy handed,
- 22:12Speaker 13: pepper spray stomping on people, arresting people for simply having
- 22:15Speaker 13: a democratic say about what was happening with the vaccines.
- 22:17Speaker 13: They can do it when they're told to, but our
- 22:20Speaker 13: political class let the Palestinians, the extremists go past, even
- 22:23Speaker 13: though the police have got the ability, as we now know,
- 22:26Speaker 13: to deal with these people in the heavy way, and
- 22:27Speaker 13: they should.
- 22:30Speaker 2: It's just extraordinary, James, What a signal it sends that
- 22:33Speaker 2: we have let protests take over the streets so completely
- 22:38Speaker 2: that the Prime Minister can't even use his own offers
- 22:42Speaker 2: in his electorate.
- 22:46Speaker 12: Well, when you think about it, we've got a three
- 22:48Speaker 12: point two percent population of Muslims in this country, a
- 22:52Speaker 12: large proportion of them. We know what side they're on
- 22:54Speaker 12: because of their stance here. Then we've got the radicals
- 22:58Speaker 12: from organizations like the Greens that have joined them in
- 23:02Speaker 12: these pro Palestinian protests that have occurred right across the country.
- 23:07Speaker 12: I'd call being in Sydney not so long ago when
- 23:10Speaker 12: this was happening and I couldn't believe the call to
- 23:13Speaker 12: prayer in the middle of Martin Place. That is just
- 23:17Speaker 12: something I was not familiar with, let alone what's been
- 23:20Speaker 12: occurring out the front of these political offices. It's not
- 23:23Speaker 12: just anti Semitic, it's anti Australian and these people should
- 23:28Speaker 12: realize this is not the way we go about things.
- 23:31Speaker 12: Australia has got no involvement in this war. We've condemned
- 23:35Speaker 12: the actions on both sides at times, but I am
- 23:38Speaker 12: not condemning the Israelis for their actions that they took
- 23:43Speaker 12: after October seven. What happened when all those people were
- 23:47Speaker 12: massacred would have well, I would expect our Australian government
- 23:51Speaker 12: to take retaliatory action exactly the same if it happened
- 23:54Speaker 12: to people here in Australia. So it's very anti Australian
- 23:58Speaker 12: and it's so sad to see this continuing because we've
- 24:00Speaker 12: got a week livid Prime Minister who just won't call
- 24:03Speaker 12: it out.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping you're right and saying it's not Australian,
- 24:08Speaker 2: because at the moment it does seem to be the
- 24:10Speaker 2: image of Australia.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Cameron.
- 24:14Speaker 2: This is something out of left field. But I find
- 24:17Speaker 2: it an insult when so many Australians are doing it
- 24:20Speaker 2: so tough and then get their taxes on spent on
- 24:24Speaker 2: the maddest arts grant I swear I have ever seen,
- 24:28Speaker 2: because for one, it's nearly four million dollars and it's
- 24:32Speaker 2: going to something called the Multi Species Creativity and Climate Communication.
- 24:38Speaker 2: I wonder what other species are part of this arts project.
- 24:41Speaker 2: Let me read some of it out to you because
- 24:43Speaker 2: I don't think you believe me otherwise. It says this
- 24:46Speaker 2: project advances the role of arts is the missing link
- 24:50Speaker 2: in global movements of multi species justice, justice for the bandicoots.
- 24:55Speaker 2: Using innovative musical approaches to communicate the urgency of climate
- 24:59Speaker 2: change and leads social change, you will generate new knowledge
- 25:03Speaker 2: related to musical creativity by joining together multi species perception. Again,
- 25:08Speaker 2: I wonder about multispecies, composition, art science, researcher, First Nations
- 25:12Speaker 2: and knowledge. Now, Cameron, you know, you know you've been
- 25:15Speaker 2: to my home. You know I love the arts more
- 25:17Speaker 2: than most. But these millions on this woke junk.
- 25:24Speaker 13: Well, it makes a complete face if it doesn't, Andrew.
- 25:26Speaker 13: I mean, someone's put a bunch of PVC pipes together
- 25:29Speaker 13: and bonging a thong on the top, and that could
- 25:31Speaker 13: be a musical instrument. But add First Nations and climate
- 25:33Speaker 13: change and multi species to it and four million.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Dollars comes your way.
- 25:37Speaker 13: No, this is a wipe joke, Andrew, and just makes
- 25:39Speaker 13: a complete face of arts funding, which has its place.
- 25:45Speaker 2: Well, it has its place, So I'm all foreign of
- 25:47Speaker 2: arts funding. But honestly, James, four million for that nearly
- 25:50Speaker 2: four million dollars. That's a slap in the face for
- 25:53Speaker 2: all those Australians that can't even meet their rent or
- 25:58Speaker 2: or you know, afford nice food or something like.
- 26:01Speaker 1: It's just the joke.
- 26:04Speaker 12: Well, I'm starting to rethink whether it is worth funding
- 26:07Speaker 12: these arts projects if this is the rubbish that we
- 26:11Speaker 12: are supporting. Sorry, Cameron, I can't support this sort of
- 26:13Speaker 12: stuff and by the sounds of it you can't either.
- 26:15Speaker 1: But and this is what James the arts.
- 26:20Speaker 12: I've heard so many of these different funding grant arrangements
- 26:24Speaker 12: going out to people, and there's good hard working people that,
- 26:27Speaker 12: particularly in my neck of the woods, that go and
- 26:29Speaker 12: spend a week away from their family at a time
- 26:31Speaker 12: to go and work in the mines. They pay extraordinary
- 26:34Speaker 12: amounts of tax, come home and then you know, by
- 26:37Speaker 12: the time they've got to go back out the following week,
- 26:39Speaker 12: they're bugging and when they hear the funding that's been
- 26:43Speaker 12: blown because they're giving up, you know, sixty and seventy
- 26:45Speaker 12: thousand dollars out of the yearly salary to fund this. Right,
- 26:49Speaker 12: it just doesn't pass the pub test, certainly not here
- 26:51Speaker 12: in regional and I think people more broadly across the
- 26:54Speaker 12: country have at a gutful.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Well, with all this funding for an arts project for
- 26:59Speaker 2: multi species, have they look after just one species first,
- 27:01Speaker 2: the human one in this country and then worry about
- 27:04Speaker 2: the other species and their multicultural climate change concerns. Thank
- 27:09Speaker 2: you very much, Karen Milner and James Ashby. After the break,
- 27:14Speaker 2: Oh the Alice Springs violence, did the voice make it worse?
- 27:24Speaker 2: I think it's telling that this is Nadock Week, which
- 27:27Speaker 2: is meant to celebrate Aboriginal culture, and tonight in this
- 27:30Speaker 2: same week, Alice Springs is in the last night of
- 27:33Speaker 2: the three day curfew imposed after the incredible violence on
- 27:36Speaker 2: the weekend when about five thousand visitors, mainly from Aboriginal communities,
- 27:40Speaker 2: came to town for the Alice Springs Show wow. One
- 27:45Speaker 2: policeman leg fractured, other officers attacked by a big mob. Later,
- 27:50Speaker 2: four off duty police, three of them women, attacked by
- 27:53Speaker 2: about twenty young men and more. Something really sick is
- 27:58Speaker 2: going on, and it's not just an Springs and I
- 28:01Speaker 2: think less celebration and more introspection in Nadock Week would
- 28:07Speaker 2: help a lot of Aboriginal kids, a lot more. Now
- 28:11Speaker 2: joining me from Alla Springs is MC Cunningham, our Northern
- 28:13Speaker 2: Australia Correspondent mccunningham. The curfew at Alice Springs is going
- 28:18Speaker 2: to end tomorrow morning. It can only last three days
- 28:21Speaker 2: at a time under the law. Will it be extended.
- 28:29Speaker 14: Look, my sources at this stage are telling me that
- 28:31Speaker 14: that's unlikely.
- 28:32Speaker 1: Andrew.
- 28:33Speaker 14: There is still the possibility that it could be, but
- 28:36Speaker 14: at this stage I don't think that it is going
- 28:39Speaker 14: to be. We are expecting an announcement from the Police
- 28:41Speaker 14: Commissioner Michael Murphy tomorrow morning. As you say, it can
- 28:45Speaker 14: only be put in place for seventy two hours at
- 28:47Speaker 14: the moment, and beyond that the Police Commissioner needs to
- 28:50Speaker 14: go to an emergency Committee of Cabinet to get approval
- 28:55Speaker 14: for an extension. But my information is that it will
- 28:59Speaker 14: end tomorrow and I think it's unlikely that there will
- 29:03Speaker 14: be an extension.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Does that suggest the curfew has worked?
- 29:11Speaker 14: I wouldn't go as far as to say that. I
- 29:14Speaker 14: think there was a fair bit of evidence earlier this
- 29:16Speaker 14: year in March. So in March we saw those riots
- 29:20Speaker 14: in town at the Todd Tavern where people were trying
- 29:23Speaker 14: to break in. Then we saw up to one hundred
- 29:25Speaker 14: and fifty people rioting in the hidden Valley at town
- 29:28Speaker 14: camp in Alice Springs, and then we saw a youth
- 29:32Speaker 14: curfew implemented for twenty days. I think most people in
- 29:36Speaker 14: Alice Springs believe that that was a measure that worked
- 29:38Speaker 14: in this case. I think there's a sense that this
- 29:41Speaker 14: is basically this has been a case of sort of
- 29:44Speaker 14: shutting the gate after the horse had bolted. We saw
- 29:48Speaker 14: a flare up of issues in Alice Springs at the weekend,
- 29:51Speaker 14: and that was a weekend where you might have predicted
- 29:54Speaker 14: there were going to be incidents. It was Alice Springs
- 29:57Speaker 14: Show weekend. There was a huge influx of people into
- 30:01Speaker 14: our springs from surrounding Aboriginal communities, and of course we
- 30:05Speaker 14: saw various incidents take place, including a horrific assault of
- 30:11Speaker 14: a police officer working at a bottle shop who was
- 30:13Speaker 14: run over and seriously injured, and the assault of four
- 30:17Speaker 14: off duty police officers who were walking home from a
- 30:21Speaker 14: restaurant on Saturday night. So it was after those incidents
- 30:24Speaker 14: that had occurred that the Police Commissioner then on the
- 30:26Speaker 14: Monday morning, implemented this curfew. But even since then we
- 30:30Speaker 14: have seen a more crime take place, particularly outside the
- 30:34Speaker 14: CBD curfew zone in the suburbs where they've been stolen vehicles,
- 30:37Speaker 14: there've been houses broken into, and even this afternoon, Andrew
- 30:42Speaker 14: at one point thirty in the afternoon, which of course
- 30:45Speaker 14: is outside of the curfew hours, we've seen a brawl
- 30:47Speaker 14: take place in the Alice Springs CBD.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:52Speaker 2: I think what the curfew has done is given the
- 30:55Speaker 2: police time to let the five thousand visitors for the
- 30:59Speaker 2: show go back to the Aboriginal communities. It hasn't fixed anything.
- 31:02Speaker 2: It's just, you know, put a little screen over it
- 31:06Speaker 2: for now. I grew up in the Territory and later
- 31:09Speaker 2: went back to work for a labor politician there. None
- 31:12Speaker 2: of this violence. This is just off the scale. This
- 31:15Speaker 2: is something I've never seen in my time there. You've
- 31:19Speaker 2: also talked to the Northern Territory Police Association. What are
- 31:22Speaker 2: they saying about this violence we're seeing.
- 31:28Speaker 14: Well, Nathan Finn, who's the president of the Northern Territory
- 31:31Speaker 14: Police Association, clearly has concerns about the assaults on some
- 31:36Speaker 14: of his members that we've seen over the past few days.
- 31:38Speaker 2: But he also had a.
- 31:39Speaker 14: Bit to say when I spoke to him this week
- 31:41Speaker 14: about police morale. He says, a morale amongst the Northern
- 31:44Speaker 14: Territory Police is at a record low and that has
- 31:47Speaker 14: been born out in some of the surveys that the
- 31:49Speaker 14: Northern Territory Police Association have done. But he pointed to
- 31:53Speaker 14: a couple of things that he said have really contributed
- 31:56Speaker 14: to that drop in morale. One was the decision to charge,
- 32:00Speaker 14: as we've covered here extensively, Constable Zachary Rolf with the
- 32:04Speaker 14: murder of Kumen Joie Walker four days after that incident
- 32:08Speaker 14: at Yundamoo back in November twenty nineteen, and the ongoing
- 32:12Speaker 14: coronial inquest into that matter now twenty nineteen. November twenty
- 32:17Speaker 14: nineteen was when that incident occurred, Andrew, it was two
- 32:21Speaker 14: and a half years after that. It was March twenty
- 32:24Speaker 14: twenty two when Constable Rolf faced a jury trial and
- 32:29Speaker 14: was found not guilty. And then since then there was
- 32:32Speaker 14: a coronial investigation that began in September of twenty twenty
- 32:37Speaker 14: two and is still going on now almost two years later.
- 32:40Speaker 14: In fact, today we found out that there's going to
- 32:42Speaker 14: be more hearings in relation to that coronial investigation that
- 32:45Speaker 14: are going to take place in November of this year.
- 32:48Speaker 14: So it's unlikely that we will get a report from
- 32:51Speaker 14: that Coronial investigation until sometime in twenty twenty five, and
- 32:56Speaker 14: Nathan Finn said that that is something that is really
- 32:59Speaker 14: a acting police morale. The other thing that he said
- 33:02Speaker 14: was affecting morale was the failed referendum on the Indigenous
- 33:06Speaker 14: Voice to Parliament. He says that that has created a
- 33:08Speaker 14: divide between Aboriginal Territorians and police officers and that is
- 33:14Speaker 14: making it more difficult for them to do their job.
- 33:17Speaker 15: That's played a big effect on the separation of obviously
- 33:20Speaker 15: the wide Australian versus Indigenous Australians as well. All these
- 33:23Speaker 15: things have had a great effect on our ability to
- 33:25Speaker 15: communicate with obviously our First Nations people here in the
- 33:28Speaker 15: Northern Territory, and our members struggle with that because there's
- 33:31Speaker 15: seemed to be a divide and this divide's been created
- 33:34Speaker 15: not by our members but by the government.
- 33:36Speaker 2: Well, just one more saying of how community tensions were
- 33:40Speaker 2: made worse not better by that referendum. I just thought
- 33:43Speaker 2: it was such a tragic mistake. Now, Cunningham, thank you
- 33:46Speaker 2: so much for your time.
- 33:49Speaker 14: Thanks Andrew.
- 33:50Speaker 1: I'll tell you.
- 33:51Speaker 2: Know, the voice has been beaten, but the poison remains
- 33:55Speaker 2: is very little has been more devastating to community cohesion
- 34:00Speaker 2: last few years, and that after the break, yet another
- 34:02Speaker 2: foreign criminal free from detention. But good news as well,
- 34:05Speaker 2: the best labor premier has come to the rescue of
- 34:09Speaker 2: Anzac day.
- 34:10Speaker 1: But I asked why stop there? Coming up?
- 34:16Speaker 2: Of course that astrologist. But first here we go again
- 34:19Speaker 2: the Albinizi government its stuffed up a case.
- 34:22Speaker 1: Last year.
- 34:22Speaker 2: We said a lot about it, with the High Court
- 34:24Speaker 2: then effectively ruling that immigration detainees it couldn't be sent home,
- 34:28Speaker 2: must be sent free and so even rapists and murderers
- 34:32Speaker 2: will then let loosen our streets. Now another based on
- 34:35Speaker 2: that High Court decision. This time the Federal court is
- 34:38Speaker 2: free from detention. And the Iraq born man who came
- 34:41Speaker 2: here illegally by boat and then faced a criminal charge
- 34:44Speaker 2: for allegedly having a three year sexual relationship with a
- 34:47Speaker 2: thirty year old girl the state ward. Although it seems
- 34:50Speaker 2: the charges were lated withdrawn. This man was even convicted
- 34:53Speaker 2: of common assault and assault occasion occasioning actually bodily harm
- 34:58Speaker 2: over a fight at the detention facility. Joining me is
- 35:01Speaker 2: the coalition's immigration spokesman, Dantean dan Teen. Thank you so
- 35:05Speaker 2: much for joining me. Now we've got an the Iraq
- 35:08Speaker 2: born man who was charged with having a three year
- 35:11Speaker 2: sexual relationship with the state ward. He's been now released
- 35:16Speaker 2: from detention because he couldn't be sent home fair enough.
- 35:22Speaker 16: Well, once again, it's just a complete mess, and it's
- 35:25Speaker 16: a mess of the government's own making. It's a mess
- 35:28Speaker 16: in particular of the immigration Minister Andrew Giles is making.
- 35:32Speaker 16: As your viewers will remember Andrew, last year the minister
- 35:38Speaker 16: agreed to a statement of fact which said that certain
- 35:42Speaker 16: detainees couldn't be returned to their country of origin. After
- 35:48Speaker 16: he'd done that, of course panic set in the government
- 35:51Speaker 16: then tried to make it out that they were attempting
- 35:54Speaker 16: to send these detainees to the US and other Five
- 35:58Speaker 16: Eye countries, but High Court didn't buy it. And of
- 36:02Speaker 16: course we saw one hundred and fifty two initially of
- 36:05Speaker 16: these hardened criminals released, and since then we've seen more
- 36:10Speaker 16: and more and we're up to now I think it's
- 36:12Speaker 16: one hundred and sixty two, or of course the government
- 36:15Speaker 16: doesn't update the figure, but we think it's now one
- 36:18Speaker 16: hundred and sixty two. And this is just the latest.
- 36:21Speaker 16: And as we know, the government gave us all these
- 36:23Speaker 16: assurances that these people would be properly monitored, yet we
- 36:29Speaker 16: now know that a large proportion of them aren't wearing
- 36:33Speaker 16: ankle bracelets and are being monitored in the baarest minimalist way.
- 36:39Speaker 16: So it's just another disaster and it's why the reshuffle
- 36:42Speaker 16: can't come quick enough, because we cannot have Andrew Giles
- 36:46Speaker 16: continue in his position as Immigration Minister, because he's making
- 36:51Speaker 16: public safety in this country a serious, serious issue.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Danteen.
- 36:58Speaker 2: There's another aspect of all this really concerns me. As
- 37:01Speaker 2: you well know, for years our courts, particularly the Federal Court,
- 37:05Speaker 2: has been clogged by refugees, so called circled detainees, trying
- 37:12Speaker 2: to figure out legal ways to delay their deportation, to
- 37:16Speaker 2: delay the inevitable challenge appeals just eating up court time
- 37:21Speaker 2: and the effect of that is that Australians have delays
- 37:25Speaker 2: in getting justice for themselves, let alone for these non citizens.
- 37:29Speaker 2: There are now twenty five cases. This is getting worse
- 37:32Speaker 2: because there were four cases already of immigration settled by
- 37:36Speaker 2: the Federal Court just last week. There are now twenty
- 37:39Speaker 2: five cases already being lodged now of non citizens in
- 37:44Speaker 2: the Federal Court demanded to be let out. After that
- 37:48Speaker 2: Federal Court, the High Court last the order the release
- 37:50Speaker 2: of a Burmese pedophile that we couldn't send back. This
- 37:53Speaker 2: is just going this is really hurting Australians and I'm
- 37:57Speaker 2: just wondering what can be done about this circus.
- 38:02Speaker 16: Well, you're absolutely right. The Federal Court has now set
- 38:05Speaker 16: up a special special project to deal with these issues
- 38:11Speaker 16: and has appointed special judges to look after it. So
- 38:14Speaker 16: it is taking up the time of the Court, there
- 38:18Speaker 16: is no question about that. And what we're seeing from
- 38:22Speaker 16: the government is no effort being made to address this situation.
- 38:26Speaker 16: You'll remember that they wanted to put forward emergency Powers
- 38:30Speaker 16: legislation that had to be rushed through the Parliament in
- 38:34Speaker 16: twenty four hours. Now we passed it through the House
- 38:37Speaker 16: of Reps and said we wanted to have a look
- 38:39Speaker 16: at it in the Senate.
- 38:40Speaker 6: We've done that.
- 38:41Speaker 16: We've said to the government, right, we're ready to work
- 38:44Speaker 16: with you to pass it through the Senate. They won't
- 38:47Speaker 16: even bring it on for debate now in the Senate.
- 38:50Speaker 16: There are other things that have been recommended for them
- 38:53Speaker 16: to do, especially when it comes to people who are
- 38:57Speaker 16: using our courts, for them to be able to speed
- 39:00Speaker 16: up the way these cases are processed so that we
- 39:03Speaker 16: can get them through the courts much quickly. They haven't
- 39:06Speaker 16: implemented those So not only have we seen these detainees
- 39:10Speaker 16: clog up our court system, but also we're seen last
- 39:14Speaker 16: month a record number under this labor government of asylum
- 39:19Speaker 16: seekers or asylum seeker applications, and our worry is that
- 39:24Speaker 16: number is going to continue to grow. And we saw
- 39:28Speaker 16: for the first time a doubling of the amount of
- 39:32Speaker 16: Palestinians applying for asylum. You'll remember they came in on
- 39:37Speaker 16: tourist visas and the Prime ministers said.
- 39:40Speaker 1: That this was temporary.
- 39:42Speaker 16: Well now they're using the courts by applying for asylum here.
- 39:46Speaker 16: So we're seeing more and more of this type of behavior,
- 39:50Speaker 16: whether it be from the detainees or from people seeking
- 39:54Speaker 16: to claim asylum here.
- 39:57Speaker 2: Danteine, I wonder whether we're never going to get an
- 40:00Speaker 2: top of this tremendous circus. It costs us so much
- 40:03Speaker 2: in legal costs, legal delays, everything, that we got to
- 40:07Speaker 2: withdraw from the Refugee Convention and declare that some countries
- 40:11Speaker 2: we don't care the democracies that can sort out, like
- 40:13Speaker 2: India or whatever, we will not accept any We will
- 40:16Speaker 2: not tolerate any refugee claims from countries like that. That
- 40:20Speaker 2: is just a full stop. Otherwise this court shopping is
- 40:24Speaker 2: going to continue.
- 40:25Speaker 1: But look, you and I.
- 40:27Speaker 2: Have worried about social cohesion for a long time. I
- 40:30Speaker 2: know you've mentioned it many times in tax on the
- 40:32Speaker 2: national symbols, national identity. Now I've got a labor premier
- 40:36Speaker 2: and I'm surprised about that, but you know it's New
- 40:38Speaker 2: South Wales. Chris Men's good guy. He's said that he
- 40:41Speaker 2: wants more respect for an Zac Dave.
- 40:44Speaker 17: It's an opportunity for the community to come together to
- 40:47Speaker 17: acknowledge what has been a profound sacrifice by generations of
- 40:53Speaker 17: young Australians on behalf of the country. And if we
- 40:56Speaker 17: forget some of those basic tenants, if it's lost to
- 40:59Speaker 17: future generals, it's not commemorated on Anzac Day, and the
- 41:04Speaker 17: essential character or the spirit of a country like Australia
- 41:06Speaker 17: gets lost alongside it.
- 41:08Speaker 1: You're back him on this, wouldn't you?
- 41:11Speaker 16: Absolutely? And I think, you know, hats off to Chris
- 41:16Speaker 16: Means for what he's doing. I think it's absolutely the
- 41:19Speaker 16: right move. But Andrew, I do worry that we're having
- 41:22Speaker 16: to take these steps to make sure that people understand
- 41:26Speaker 16: the significance of Anzac Day. We have to ensure that
- 41:31Speaker 16: people are being taught from a very early age the
- 41:34Speaker 16: importance of this day, the importance of our symbols, the
- 41:39Speaker 16: importance of our monuments. We saw the desecration of memorials
- 41:45Speaker 16: along Anzac Drive in Canberra, one of the most heinous
- 41:48Speaker 16: things I think we've seen in the last twenty years
- 41:51Speaker 16: that people would seek to do that.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Right across the board.
- 41:55Speaker 16: People are finding any way they can to disrespect what
- 41:59Speaker 16: are in important, important institutions and important symbols, important days,
- 42:05Speaker 16: whether it be Anzac Day, whether it be Australia Day,
- 42:08Speaker 16: and what Chris Mins is doing for Anzac Day, I
- 42:11Speaker 16: think is absolutely a step in the right direction. I
- 42:14Speaker 16: think we're going to reach the point where we're going
- 42:17Speaker 16: to have to do the same for Australia Day because
- 42:21Speaker 16: for all of us who know and understand the importance
- 42:24Speaker 16: of these days, making sure that we protect them and
- 42:28Speaker 16: protect the respect that they should be held, I think
- 42:31Speaker 16: is incredibly important.
- 42:34Speaker 2: I agree, and if you get into government, you should
- 42:37Speaker 2: pull back the reverse that government decision to let public
- 42:41Speaker 2: service take alternative days to Australia Days.
- 42:43Speaker 1: Their public holiday. No, it's for Australia Day.
- 42:46Speaker 2: You don't want it, you lose it, Dante, and thank
- 42:49Speaker 2: you so much for your.
- 42:49Speaker 1: Time, Pleasure Andrews.
- 42:53Speaker 2: Is actually done is say there's a retail band. Normally
- 42:57Speaker 2: it's just during the morning. It's not going to be
- 42:59Speaker 2: all day most shops. So I think that's a great move.
- 43:02Speaker 2: After the break one TV station has hired an astrologer
- 43:06Speaker 2: for its news service. Seriously, and why does any news
- 43:10Speaker 2: program think it's the news? And how came Turnbull wines
- 43:13Speaker 2: and wines about the Liberals again.
- 43:22Speaker 1: And the news watch.
- 43:23Speaker 2: And I've said before so many journalists now aren't in
- 43:25Speaker 2: the truth business. And I've just got a great example.
- 43:28Speaker 2: You know Channel ten that its reputation trash by paying
- 43:31Speaker 2: for hookers and allegedly drugs for rapists Bruce Lium and
- 43:34Speaker 2: it's denarded, but it's got rid of all those allegedly
- 43:37Speaker 2: involved in their story. And now to repair its news division,
- 43:40Speaker 2: it's going to add to the six pm news bulletin
- 43:43Speaker 2: an astrologer. Would you believe Natasha Webber, also known as Astrotash,
- 43:49Speaker 2: who has been already doing her stuff for its morning.
- 43:52Speaker 4: Show Venus The Planet of Love and Money is making
- 43:56Speaker 4: some final connections in cancer before entering LEO on Friday.
- 44:00Speaker 4: So here's what's ahead this week. Aries feeling off kilter,
- 44:06Speaker 4: asking for help is the answer and support is closer
- 44:08Speaker 4: than you think. Use Thursday to dive into home improvements,
- 44:12Speaker 4: fixed broken appliances.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Seriously Joining me is Sophie Ellsworth, Media run for the
- 44:18Speaker 2: Australian newspaper Sophie, an astrology segment in the news.
- 44:24Speaker 18: Really well, they're trying everything at Channel seven, Andrew. They've
- 44:31Speaker 18: got a new news director, Anthony de Segli. He's only
- 44:35Speaker 18: been in the job a couple of months and he
- 44:38Speaker 18: is trying to shake things up by introducing a few
- 44:41Speaker 18: new segments. So they are going to be introducing an
- 44:45Speaker 18: astrology segment where I guess you can find out if
- 44:48Speaker 18: the stars and the planets aligned and you'll be able
- 44:51Speaker 18: to pay your bills, lose some weight, perhaps get on
- 44:54Speaker 18: with your partner better, Andrew. But this is what they're
- 44:56Speaker 18: injecting into the news bulletin service in a bid to
- 45:00Speaker 18: hope to lure viewers to their news bulletins because seven
- 45:04Speaker 18: and nine, as we know, battle the ratings every night
- 45:07Speaker 18: and at the moment in the key markets, Channel nine
- 45:11Speaker 18: are ahead in cities including Sydney and Melbourne. So perhaps
- 45:15Speaker 18: this is a brave move by Channel seven boss Anthony
- 45:19Speaker 18: de Segli.
- 45:20Speaker 7: But will it work.
- 45:21Speaker 18: I think the jury is out, Andrew.
- 45:24Speaker 2: Yeah, but what does it say about its commitment to
- 45:26Speaker 2: truth and the news? If it's an astrology can crack it.
- 45:32Speaker 18: Well, Andrew, I'm a skeptic. I have to admit I
- 45:35Speaker 18: guess you are too that I'm very skeptical about astrology,
- 45:40Speaker 18: and I think a lot of other people will be.
- 45:42Speaker 13: But perhaps some people are open.
- 45:44Speaker 18: To it and think this is what they need. I mean,
- 45:47Speaker 18: they're trying anything they can to lure in new viewers
- 45:50Speaker 18: because as we know, Andrew, a lot of people are
- 45:52Speaker 18: turning off the regimented tuning into the six pm news
- 45:57Speaker 18: and they're looking at other avenues to watch. You know
- 46:00Speaker 18: a lot of people streaming these days, so they're trying
- 46:03Speaker 18: something new. I give them points for that, but I'm
- 46:05Speaker 18: not quite sure it will work.
- 46:09Speaker 2: Now, soph You're one of the easiest and laziest ways
- 46:12Speaker 2: for a media outlet to get someone to attack the
- 46:14Speaker 2: liberals is to ask the most bitter man in Australia.
- 46:18Speaker 2: In my opinion, former promise of Malcolm turble to talk
- 46:21Speaker 2: about the Liberals who sacked them as hopeless prime minister,
- 46:23Speaker 2: which is what we saw again on Channel ten's The Project,
- 46:27Speaker 2: where Turnbull was a one man clown show with the
- 46:30Speaker 2: most childish abuse of opportunity to leader Peter Dutton.
- 46:34Speaker 19: He's a thug and it has got one tune that
- 46:39Speaker 19: he plays. I mean it's been to all his political life,
- 46:42Speaker 19: and that is division and animosity generally targeted at immigrants.
- 46:47Speaker 19: It's it is really I couldn't think of anyone less
- 46:52Speaker 19: suited to be Prime minister of a multicultural society like Australia.
- 46:58Speaker 2: If we've heard that she stick from Malcolm Turnbull I
- 47:00Speaker 2: don't know how many times over the last several years
- 47:03Speaker 2: because he's furious that Dutton kicked you know, got him
- 47:07Speaker 2: to lose his job as prime minister. But seriously, how
- 47:11Speaker 2: often do we have to see this sad bloke?
- 47:16Speaker 17: Andrew?
- 47:17Speaker 18: I do actually think it's sad that Malcolm Turnbull is
- 47:20Speaker 18: giving up his time to appear on the leftist program
- 47:24Speaker 18: The Project to cater to a young audience. He sits
- 47:28Speaker 18: up there like a cheshier cat and just throws stones
- 47:32Speaker 18: at the Coalition. I mean hasn't he got better things
- 47:35Speaker 18: to do. He's got plenty of wealth, he was successful
- 47:38Speaker 18: in his own right, and now he's just seems to
- 47:43Speaker 18: want to stick that knife in to the Liberal Party
- 47:47Speaker 18: and he just won't let go. I mean, I thought
- 47:49Speaker 18: Kevin Rudd was a better Prime Minister, but I think
- 47:53Speaker 18: the gold medal would go to Malcolm Turbull. He just
- 47:56Speaker 18: this is his modus operandi. Andrew, get on the ABC,
- 48:00Speaker 18: get on the Project, bag the Coalition. There goes to soundbites.
- 48:04Speaker 18: It's spread all over the news and he gets with
- 48:07Speaker 18: the publicity that he wants.
- 48:10Speaker 2: It wasn't spread over the news so much this time
- 48:12Speaker 2: because he said it so often, And I'm just curious
- 48:15Speaker 2: why the Project thought they needed to hear it again.
- 48:20Speaker 18: Well, I guess they've got to fill their show somehow.
- 48:22Speaker 18: And he is the perfect person if you want someone
- 48:25Speaker 18: on there to absolutely stick the knife into the Liberal Party.
- 48:30Speaker 18: Malcolm Turnbull is on speed dial. And we know this
- 48:33Speaker 18: in the media. I mean he pops up on the
- 48:36Speaker 18: ABC regularly. Andrew's regularly on R and Breakfast, same script,
- 48:41Speaker 18: same attacking.
- 48:43Speaker 1: I mean, he should be happy. It's just.
- 48:51Speaker 2: So feels worth terrific stuff. Thank you for your time.
- 48:55Speaker 2: That's it for me now. Cayleb Bond hosting Charry