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- 0:00Russian mill bloggers are saying that
- 0:02the average Ukrainian drone pilot has
- 0:04over 100 kills. Is this really a true
- 0:09stat or is this just more Russian mail
- 0:12blogger cope? Let's break down what we
- 0:15know and see if the math really checks
- 0:19out. Okay, so this stat originally came
- 0:21to us from Preston Stewart, who I would
- 0:24tell you guys to follow him, but I
- 0:26strongly suspect and I can see in the
- 0:28YouTube stats that almost all of you do.
- 0:30And he is really dialed into the Russian
- 0:33mil blogger traffic. And one of his
- 0:35videos repeated a claim from these mil
- 0:37bloggers that the inside the Ukrainian
- 0:40unmanned systems forces, pilots with
- 0:43over a 100 kills are now considered
- 0:45average. These sources of course point
- 0:48out that the
- 0:51drone pilots or FPV drone pilots make up
- 0:53just 2.5% of the Ukrainian military but
- 0:57produce an outsized amount of kills.
- 1:00Now, normally I would look at a stat
- 1:03like this and say that this is cope,
- 1:05right? If you are an individual with
- 1:08over 100 kills to your name, uh that
- 1:11would put you among the greatest
- 1:13warriors in human history. Um, of
- 1:15course, man and machine have often
- 1:18combined to produce staggering effects.
- 1:21Uh, look, for example, at a uh bomber
- 1:25crew uh or for example, a a F-16 pilot
- 1:28with multiple tours in Afghanistan, they
- 1:31may find themselves racking up 100 plus
- 1:34uh kills of enemy infantry. But we know
- 1:37that Russian miloggers are often looking
- 1:39for, let's say, stories that explain the
- 1:43abject failure of the Russian military.
- 1:45And this is a good one. The idea that
- 1:47there's this highly trained group of
- 1:49pilots who are simply buzzsawing through
- 1:52Russian infantry. However, other sources
- 1:55confirm similar stories. For example,
- 1:57here is uh Marco Rubio, the US Secretary
- 2:01of State, who despite being essentially
- 2:04forced to parrot Trump's insane talking
- 2:06points, has repeatedly demonstrated that
- 2:08he does actually read the CIA's
- 2:11briefings. He actually gets real
- 2:13information from the State Department
- 2:15and from the US intelligence apparatus.
- 2:17That's why I put a lot of credibility in
- 2:19the numbers he cites. He uh Rubio
- 2:22again repeats a lot of Trump BS, but
- 2:25when he cites a stat, that stat is
- 2:27almost always backed up. And so I was
- 2:30shocked when he cited a stat that
- 2:32actually goes off of the standard Trump
- 2:35talking point, right? He said in a
- 2:37recent interview, I think this was maybe
- 2:38two or three weeks ago, that Moscow was
- 2:40losing quote five times as many soldiers
- 2:43a month as Kiev. Then he dropped a
- 2:45literal stat saying, quote, "The
- 2:46Russians are losing 15 to 20,000
- 2:48soldiers a month. Dead, not injured,
- 2:50dead." He said, "This is crazy." And
- 2:54while he repeated the Trump point that
- 2:56the war is bad for both sides, uh, a
- 2:58duh, war bad. What a take. And that the
- 3:01president wants to see the war end.
- 3:02Yeah, Ukraine and Russia also want to
- 3:04see the war end. They just don't want to
- 3:06see it end with their defeat. That's how
- 3:08war works. But
- 3:12the fact that he is casually admitting
- 3:15that for every five dead Russian
- 3:17soldiers, Keev loses Kiev loses just
- 3:20one. That indicates that someone out
- 3:23there is doing a lot of work in
- 3:25annihilating Russians without really
- 3:28taking much risk themselves. And we also
- 3:30know that over 80% of those kills are
- 3:35done by drone. This is straight out of
- 3:37Zalinsk's mouth. that four out of every
- 3:39five successful Ukrainian strikes
- 3:40against Russian forces are carried out
- 3:41by drones and that about se right in the
- 3:45spring of 2025 Ukrainians said that that
- 3:47number was about 70%. So we're seeing a
- 3:49rise in casualties inflicted by FPV
- 3:52drones again indicating that there is a
- 3:55massive amount of those 20,000 dead
- 3:57Russians are caused by drones. probably
- 4:01about
- 4:0217 to 18,000 of those uh Russian dead
- 4:07are killed by FPV drones. Now, I'm
- 4:10saying FPV. I'm FPV that's unfair
- 4:12because Ukraine also relies heavily on
- 4:15bomber drones. Um, and they have a bunch
- 4:18of other kind of innovative drones that
- 4:20can actually are not oneanddone uh
- 4:23one-way attack drones. That's the nice
- 4:25way of putting it. Now, before we break
- 4:27down the math, because Ukraine puts the
- 4:30math out there for us, and so we can
- 4:31mathematically verify this claim. But
- 4:34before we do that, I want to mention
- 4:35that if you want to help these guys,
- 4:37well, we've partnered with Ukraine aid
- 4:39operations to get Ukraine's drone pilots
- 4:43the stuff they need to succeed. Now, we
- 4:46aren't just focusing on strike drones.
- 4:48In fact, that's a fraction of what the
- 4:52drones role in the battlefield is. And
- 4:54in fact, we're helping all of some of
- 4:56the elite
- 4:58units in the unmanned systems uh center
- 5:03by hooking them up with ground drones,
- 5:05which are crucial for resupplying
- 5:08forward positions without risking
- 5:10soldiers lives, and even more
- 5:11importantly, evacuating wounded troops
- 5:14across places that no individual would
- 5:17go. There's also heavy lift transport
- 5:19drones, mid-range drones, and more. So,
- 5:23if you want to help these guys out,
- 5:24right, the link is in the description to
- 5:26donate. All right, the actually if you
- 5:28donate $200, First Unmanned System
- 5:30Center has said they would hook you up
- 5:31with a patch. And the 421st said they
- 5:34would hook you up with an additional
- 5:35patch for individuals that donate 400 or
- 5:38more. Plus, you can get even signed
- 5:39flags from some of these guys. Uh,
- 5:41custommade art with literally spent
- 5:44bullet shells. Some pretty cool stuff.
- 5:46So definitely thanks to guys like Martin
- 5:48uh uh Stelmack Honer, Jeff Mch, Peter
- 5:52Robert James, and more uh plus all the
- 5:54anonymous donors who have stepped up to
- 5:57help out these Ukrainian fighters. So
- 6:01let's do some math. Okay, so the Ukraine
- 6:04has a nice awesome English language
- 6:06leaderboard here run by SPS Group. And
- 6:10what's interesting and important about
- 6:11this leaderboard to know is that these
- 6:13are verified kills. Why? Because Ukraine
- 6:15has an entire system where if you can
- 6:17submit video of a kill then you get
- 6:20credit sort of uh basically the
- 6:24military's version of Amazon reward
- 6:26points or your credit card reward points
- 6:28and these units can spend those points
- 6:30to get more drones, more equipment, more
- 6:32gear and it's a system by which two
- 6:35things happen. First off, in order to
- 6:38train AI strike drones, which would make
- 6:41them even more lethal, you need a huge
- 6:44data set, like millions of strikes
- 6:46videos. And
- 6:49so by rewarding people for recording and
- 6:51submitting them, the Ukrainian research
- 6:55and development, the tech guys are able
- 6:57to build that data set to help train
- 7:00these strike drones, which we're already
- 7:02seeing on the battlefield now. But also
- 7:05by verifying these kills, you're
- 7:07creating an incentive system where you
- 7:09say, "Listen, the units, we don't care
- 7:10how you do it. We don't care how you
- 7:12figure it out, but we will reward you
- 7:16for getting these kills." It's no
- 7:18different than a enterprise, a
- 7:20corporation, where you say, "Listen, I
- 7:22don't really care how the farmer grows
- 7:24my corn. As long as it passes FDA
- 7:27inspection, you get it to market, you
- 7:31get more money. The person who grows
- 7:32more corn gets more money. The person
- 7:33who sells a better smartphone smells
- 7:37sells the most smartphones gets the most
- 7:38money. Bottom line. And as a result, you
- 7:41see your smartphones. I'd say we've had
- 7:43some pretty awesome innovations in the
- 7:45smartphone world. So this, believe it or
- 7:47not, guys, this is actually more
- 7:49powerful. This gamification of of
- 7:53strikes and military outcomes is more
- 7:55powerful is the powerful driving force
- 7:56behind drone innovation. And so they
- 7:59make it public. So we are looking at the
- 8:01four 14th Maguiars's Birds unit. This is
- 8:03one of the best drone units in the
- 8:06entire Ukrainian military and we are
- 8:08looking at the aggregated stats for the
- 8:10last 6 months. So what do we have? Well,
- 8:15we have enemy personnel in the last 6
- 8:18months reportedly
- 8:21involve about 10,000
- 8:24it says including destroyed. So damaged
- 8:26and destroyed inclusively. So we have
- 8:29about 10,000. So we can predict that the
- 8:32414th is on pace to do about 20,000
- 8:35kills per year. But how many pilots does
- 8:39that include? Because remember these
- 8:40units, they have pilots. Sure. But they
- 8:43also have drone engineers that help prep
- 8:45and and ready the drones for strikes.
- 8:47They also have on the back end they have
- 8:50uh reconnaissance teams. They have
- 8:53command centers. They have guys who just
- 8:55their only job is to do logistics
- 8:57running warehouses. In fact, one of the
- 8:59things that was fascinating is that when
- 9:01I was in Ukraine um and I visited a lot
- 9:04of these drone uh labs, they would say,
- 9:06"Listen, whatever you do, do not show
- 9:10windows, doors, or QR codes because they
- 9:14said we use barcodes and QR codes to
- 9:16track the logistics of every drone. we
- 9:18know where every one of these drones
- 9:19goes. We can track them from the
- 9:21manufacturer from lab to lab to
- 9:24logistics hub to the final strike. And
- 9:27they go, if so, if the Russians get a
- 9:29hold of this, they'd be able to unlock
- 9:30our whole logistics system. So, that was
- 9:33actually they were they would rather
- 9:35have me film a window or a door than
- 9:38have me film a barcode or QR code.
- 9:40That's how that's how important these
- 9:43logistics backend guys are. Unbelievably
- 9:46important. So, how many are actually
- 9:48pilots? Well, this reports uh about 550
- 9:53pilots. Now, that number uh might be
- 9:55higher, might be lower, but I think
- 9:56that's a good ballpark for the 414th
- 10:00because remember some of these pilots
- 10:02are recon pilots that have zero kills
- 10:05because they fly Mavics, they fly
- 10:08cameras, not strike drones. But let's
- 10:10just use the largest number we can and
- 10:12use 550, right? Then you're talking
- 10:16again in a typical year we'll say about
- 10:1920,000.
- 10:20So what does that mean? Simple math here
- 10:23guys. We're talking about a 20,000 kill
- 10:25year divided among 550 pilots. You see
- 10:28the average actually ends up being about
- 10:3136.
- 10:33But that I think is actually telling. So
- 10:37if this follows a normal distribution
- 10:40with an average of 36, right? then that
- 10:45means that 100 would be not that
- 10:48exceptional, right? So if I was to say,
- 10:52hey, make a normal distribution,
- 10:55right? With an average of 36
- 11:00and a total of 20,000,
- 11:04right? And let's say we've heard that
- 11:06some of the uh highest
- 11:10lethal lethality drone pilots exceed 500
- 11:13kills, right?
- 11:17We'll say a max of 500. So we'll say the
- 11:20the most lethal, let's say um the three
- 11:23third standard deviation, right?
- 11:27With a third standard deviation of 500.
- 11:29Let's see. Uh let's see. A Gemini is
- 11:31reportedly pretty good at math, right?
- 11:37So
- 11:40here we go.
- 11:42So if it follows a normal distribution
- 11:45with a mean of 36 and a third standard
- 11:48deviation hits 500, that means 500 is a
- 11:51one in 1,000 drone pilot roughly.
- 11:55Uh then what does that mean? That means
- 11:59that the average the the middle
- 12:02twothirds of drone pilots range from
- 12:06zero to 190 kills. So I think that is
- 12:10really interesting.
- 12:13That is super fast. You see, obviously
- 12:17you can't have zero kills, but likely
- 12:20this actually is probably true because
- 12:22most drone pilots are going to be new,
- 12:24right? and and as military operations
- 12:26go, people are either promoted or
- 12:28wounded or killed. And so, you're very
- 12:30unlikely to survive long enough to hit
- 12:32to 600 kills. So, I actually think this
- 12:33is spot on that you have a bunch of you
- 12:36have a a huge crop of people that sit at
- 12:38zero and then slowly they acrew more and
- 12:42more combat experience, right? And you
- 12:45can see that the middle the middle
- 12:47chunk,
- 12:49right? you is considered normal. You
- 12:52will be a normal drone pilot with up to
- 12:55190 kills.
- 12:57So that to me indicates that this is
- 13:02absolutely completely and utterly
- 13:04believably true. Now before we get out
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