Latest / Frightmares / Ep. 136 - The Devil's Rejects (2005)
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- 0:42Speaker 1: It's not like we don't know this movie, but I
- 0:44Speaker 1: definitely want to have a Oh let me not drop
- 0:47Speaker 1: my phone. I want to have some sort of guidance
- 0:49Speaker 1: here so we don't funck this up. But yes, hello,
- 0:52Speaker 1: and welcome to episode Jesus one thirty six. I'm your host,
- 0:57Speaker 1: Austin Proctor. That is your co host, Spencer Lafferman. Hello, Hello,
- 1:03Speaker 1: So quiet, it's not gonna be quiet here in a minute,
- 1:06Speaker 1: once we get going on this fucking movie.
- 1:07Speaker 2: That's what she said?
- 1:08Speaker 1: Um, is it though? Is it actually what she said?
- 1:12Speaker 1: It's possible.
- 1:13Speaker 2: It's possible. Depends on who you talk to.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm still trying to figure out the fucking
- 1:18Speaker 1: placement on these mics. Maybe turn there's more a little
- 1:21Speaker 1: in just like with the bass here, that's right, Yeah,
- 1:25Speaker 1: take the bass stroke, the chefs fallow, the gravy tropic
- 1:29Speaker 1: thunder if anyone's paying attention. So yeah, we are talking
- 1:33Speaker 1: about the Devil's Rejects today, Rob Zombie Flick if you
- 1:37Speaker 1: if you know him, you may know him. It's possible.
- 1:39Speaker 1: But before that, obviously we have shit to talk about.
- 1:42Speaker 1: We got ship to talk about. I mean, we can
- 1:44Speaker 1: even go as far as talking about the Batman that's
- 1:46Speaker 1: coming out. Okay, I mean, who's who's not excited for that?
- 1:51Speaker 1: Who's not excited for that movie? I need to know,
- 1:53Speaker 1: I am.
- 1:54Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, because right now it's on
- 1:56Speaker 2: track to be the biggest opening live action Batman of
- 1:59Speaker 2: all time. So I feel like.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Everybody above Dark Knight though, yeah, really.
- 2:03Speaker 2: That's what well, that's what projections are showing.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Wow. Okay.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Also if you think about it, it makes more sense, unfortunately,
- 2:10Speaker 2: because when The Darknight came out, that's when the when
- 2:12Speaker 2: the theater shooting started to happen when that was in
- 2:16Speaker 2: the theater.
- 2:16Speaker 1: So oh that's right.
- 2:18Speaker 2: So so even though The Darknight did amazing, I just
- 2:21Speaker 2: don't think it did as well as it could have
- 2:23Speaker 2: because of the fact that one of the midnight screens
- 2:27Speaker 2: or or opening weekend screens had to do with that show.
- 2:29Speaker 2: And then after that, everybody got scared to go to
- 2:31Speaker 2: the theaters, which is understandable because you don't want to
- 2:33Speaker 2: get shot up.
- 2:34Speaker 1: I mean, that is literally the reason I am always
- 2:37Speaker 1: that's why I like seeing movies in Dolby because there's
- 2:39Speaker 1: a lot of separation because when you're not in Dolby
- 2:42Speaker 1: and you have people right behind you. I I kind
- 2:44Speaker 1: of am always like I don't. I just have that
- 2:46Speaker 1: sneaking suspension like please please don't.
- 2:48Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I've been in a very dark room.
- 2:50Speaker 2: You're paying attention to a big screen. You can't see
- 2:52Speaker 2: like what's going on exactly.
- 2:53Speaker 1: It's a phobia that's always you know, that's always kind
- 2:56Speaker 1: of been there for me.
- 2:57Speaker 2: So but yeah, like that started. That's are it a
- 3:00Speaker 2: good I want to say, a good full year of theater.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Shootings that started, more shootings that started.
- 3:06Speaker 2: That was the beginning of theater shootings. There was like
- 3:08Speaker 2: there was like three or four others outside because.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you worked in the theater for longer than
- 3:13Speaker 1: I did, so I was.
- 3:14Speaker 2: But Dark Knight came out O six, so like it
- 3:16Speaker 2: happened when we were both at the theater.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking of Bego's. Yeah, I was like
- 3:25Speaker 1: I was.
- 3:25Speaker 2: I was thinking that. I was thinking Batman Begins, even
- 3:27Speaker 2: though that came out in five. But uh yeah, so
- 3:29Speaker 2: my god, because that got pushed back. I don't know
- 3:33Speaker 2: if you remember, but Gangster Squad there was a scene
- 3:35Speaker 2: in the theater and the movie itself to where they
- 3:38Speaker 2: shoot up a the gangsters are in a theater shooting
- 3:41Speaker 2: things up, and they had to They postponed that movie
- 3:43Speaker 2: for a year to reshoot that entire scene because I mean, yeah,
- 3:46Speaker 2: bad taste.
- 3:47Speaker 1: But but but yeah, but it was it was done
- 3:49Speaker 1: before it was before that happened.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Because of that happened and bad taste, they completely removed
- 3:54Speaker 2: that scene and added a whole new one with the
- 3:56Speaker 2: same type of like plot point.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Well, let's help none of that happen. Let's not let's
- 3:59Speaker 1: help none of that like kicks back up for this,
- 4:01Speaker 1: because that would be audio. We don't need anything else happening. Yeah,
- 4:07Speaker 1: we don't need anything else happening after twenty twenty twenty
- 4:10Speaker 1: twenty one. Let's just let's enough, We've had enough.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Let's just enjoy a movie.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Let's just enjoy a movie. And a movie that I
- 4:16Speaker 1: showed you before we went on air that is literally
- 4:19Speaker 1: sold out. Besides, you know, like the front row, because
- 4:21Speaker 1: who the fuck wants to sit in a three hour
- 4:23Speaker 1: movie And I mean, at least it's in Dolby and
- 4:25Speaker 1: you'd have a recliner. But no, yeah, no one really
- 4:29Speaker 1: wants to sit in front row. But our theater is
- 4:31Speaker 1: fucking sold out. I can't it's so it's so sold
- 4:33Speaker 1: out that I don't even remember our seats because typically
- 4:36Speaker 1: I can pick out our seats because I'll usually look
- 4:38Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, yeah, we're right there. But I'm like,
- 4:40Speaker 1: I don't even.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Know what we're fucking that's zero.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out day of. But I'm super
- 4:46Speaker 1: excited for it because you have Robert Pattinson, who everyone
- 4:50Speaker 1: is kind of divided on because you know, everyone's like, oh,
- 4:55Speaker 1: you know the guy from Twilight, or some people are like, oh,
- 4:57Speaker 1: you know the sparkly guy from Twilight, Like no, no, no,
- 5:00Speaker 1: talking about the guy from the Rover every movie after
- 5:03Speaker 1: the Yeah, and in High Life and all these other
- 5:05Speaker 1: movies that he's done where he's done a fantastic job,
- 5:08Speaker 1: even Good Time, a good Time. I think he's a
- 5:10Speaker 1: phenomenal you know.
- 5:11Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's a great actor. Yes, Twilight
- 5:13Speaker 2: was was a dumpster fire, but everybody that was in
- 5:17Speaker 2: that movie will agree with that. And everybody in that
- 5:19Speaker 2: movie has done other like TV shows or movies and
- 5:22Speaker 2: proved that they can actually do well acting.
- 5:25Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, look at Kristin Stewart too. She's moved
- 5:27Speaker 1: on to other great things.
- 5:29Speaker 2: She she she kills it in anything independent. She does
- 5:32Speaker 2: movies that I've ever seen her in. I was like Twilight,
- 5:35Speaker 2: who like Bella Who?
- 5:36Speaker 1: Bella Who? I mean, it's just it's how you you
- 5:38Speaker 1: have to get your you know, your start. You have
- 5:40Speaker 1: to get your name out there somehow, and sometimes you
- 5:42Speaker 1: have to do things that you know. I mean, I
- 5:45Speaker 1: can go on on a limb here and say, I
- 5:46Speaker 1: did actually enjoy the first Twilight. I you know, I did.
- 5:50Speaker 1: It was it's it's a decent movie. Okay, this is good.
- 5:53Speaker 1: It's decent to me.
- 5:54Speaker 2: My favorite one, honestly, if I if I ever watched
- 5:56Speaker 2: any of the toilets again, it's gonna be the third one. Yes, yeah,
- 6:00Speaker 2: because you have David Slave directed it. Who if you
- 6:02Speaker 2: don't know who that is? He directed Thirty is the Night,
- 6:04Speaker 2: so he already has an idea how to do vampires.
- 6:06Speaker 1: And you got were wolves and that one, and there's
- 6:09Speaker 1: this there's.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Just awesomest battle. It's basically a two hour battle.
- 6:12Speaker 1: And and it's and it's like, you know, I said gory,
- 6:15Speaker 1: but it's like you know, the gory Twilight.
- 6:17Speaker 2: It's hard hard thirteen.
- 6:20Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I don't know what, okay, and can
- 6:22Speaker 1: we talk about real quick, what is it about the
- 6:24Speaker 1: third movie? And like a franchise because for me, Friday
- 6:28Speaker 1: the Thirteenth, Part three my favorite, Nightmare on Elm Street,
- 6:30Speaker 1: Dream Warriors my favorite? What is it with just Saw three?
- 6:34Speaker 1: Like that's like one of my three my favorite? What
- 6:36Speaker 1: is what is the third fucking movie? That just makes
- 6:39Speaker 1: it the best?
- 6:40Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny that we just listed off
- 6:42Speaker 2: all horror films. I don't necessarily considered Twilight horror, but
- 6:45Speaker 2: with Vampire and Werewolf, Yeah, it's a horror drawn like
- 6:48Speaker 2: it's it's a very it's like a horror s It's
- 6:50Speaker 2: like if Mark did a horror movie.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's exactly what it is.
- 6:53Speaker 2: So that's probably, but uh, I don't know, I don't know.
- 6:57Speaker 1: It's it's like they do the first one.
- 6:58Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing with with with the
- 7:00Speaker 2: rule of sequels, Like, okay, so you do the first movie,
- 7:03Speaker 2: good or bad, whatever, you learn from your mistakes or
- 7:05Speaker 2: you learn how to do it better like T two,
- 7:08Speaker 2: Terminary two, the first Terminator, but T two goddamn masterpiece.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Gold j It's so good. It's gold, Jerry, it's gold.
- 7:16Speaker 2: So what they took with that is they took what
- 7:18Speaker 2: worked and made it better. And I'm not shooting on
- 7:22Speaker 2: the first Terminator. That's that's the masterpiece of its own
- 7:25Speaker 2: but Terminator two, and anybody who's seen the entire franchise
- 7:28Speaker 2: most likely will agree that T two is the best
- 7:31Speaker 2: Terminator by a long shot.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, none, it is.
- 7:34Speaker 2: So with the Twilights, you know, like they have a
- 7:36Speaker 2: full story. Obviously, what there's five movies they do, but
- 7:40Speaker 2: part one and two.
- 7:41Speaker 1: Yeah, they do one, two, three, and then four part
- 7:43Speaker 1: one and two.
- 7:46Speaker 2: So I think in this case maybe nothing like that.
- 7:49Speaker 2: We're an Elmes Streaks case. But in Toilet's case is
- 7:51Speaker 2: they're already They're already midway through a story. So the
- 7:53Speaker 2: first movie is getting induced in the character is getting
- 7:57Speaker 2: the minimalist plot going. The second is a secuting that
- 8:00Speaker 2: plot and adding more characters if you need to. The
- 8:03Speaker 2: third one, you've already established what's going on. There's no
- 8:06Speaker 2: need to really add anything more, just continue this story.
- 8:09Speaker 2: And but but then after the third one, you know
- 8:12Speaker 2: you might add more people because you know everything needs
- 8:14Speaker 2: to progress. So I think by the time you're in
- 8:17Speaker 2: a third movie, depending on what movie it is, like
- 8:20Speaker 2: and a story just like in a book or anything like.
- 8:23Speaker 2: I mean, you may be gripped like first chapter, but
- 8:24Speaker 2: you know, if you're halfway done in the book and
- 8:26Speaker 2: you're still reading it, you can't put it down. There's
- 8:28Speaker 2: a reason for it. You're already halfway through the story.
- 8:29Speaker 2: You got all the characters, there's a lot of shit
- 8:31Speaker 2: going on, and now we have like there wasn't really
- 8:33Speaker 2: much conflict in the first two toilets other than vampires
- 8:36Speaker 2: and warolves don't get along. Oh who knew? But the
- 8:39Speaker 2: third one is the fucking war against vampires and werewolves,
- 8:42Speaker 2: and you get a whole new like the Council of
- 8:44Speaker 2: the uh I don't remember what they're.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Called, but the yeah, I've only seen them fully one.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Time, the Vampire Castle, like now into this and now
- 8:53Speaker 2: you're getting more character development. But like other characters that
- 8:56Speaker 2: now are like you know, have like have big bosses,
- 8:59Speaker 2: and so I think that's why the third one is
- 9:01Speaker 2: the best. And then four point like part one or
- 9:03Speaker 2: two just go all looting tunes. I don't know what
- 9:05Speaker 2: the fuck.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't a fan of those and everything past
- 9:07Speaker 1: three I was like, eh, whatever, But it's just it's
- 9:09Speaker 1: just so funny how it works. With that third movie
- 9:12Speaker 1: and most like and most horror or not, it's that
- 9:14Speaker 1: third movie typically is just like, I don't know what
- 9:17Speaker 1: it is. It's just so good, so.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Quick, quick twilet story because that's hilarious. Actually happened recently.
- 9:22Speaker 2: So my mom fell in love with you. She read
- 9:24Speaker 2: the books first, and then when they came to theaters,
- 9:25Speaker 2: I took her to see each movie okay, and she
- 9:28Speaker 2: loved them. She bought him on like DVD, and then
- 9:29Speaker 2: she brought him on bluerray and she would always watch them.
- 9:31Speaker 2: So I want to say about maybe January, maybe maybe
- 9:34Speaker 2: a little after. We were just her and I were
- 9:37Speaker 2: just talking one day. I don't know what we were
- 9:38Speaker 2: talking about, but I think I was mentioning the Batman
- 9:40Speaker 2: Robert Pattinson, and she goes, you know what, Spencer, I
- 9:42Speaker 2: was watching one of the Twilight movies the other day
- 9:44Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, they're not good. She she dead ass,
- 9:47Speaker 2: look at me. Somebody who's what's been a huge fan
- 9:50Speaker 2: that they came out almost ten years ago, goes, no, Spencer,
- 9:53Speaker 2: they're not good. And I'm like, we're together again where
- 9:57Speaker 2: we were united. Good. The truth finally comes out and
- 10:01Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, well, I've been trying to tell you
- 10:03Speaker 2: this forever. I took you to same because you want to,
- 10:04Speaker 2: but they're garbage movies, and she now agrees with me.
- 10:07Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, it.
- 10:08Speaker 1: All makes sense. Hey, that's like me and the fucking
- 10:12Speaker 1: Star Wars prequels. I loved them for so long, and
- 10:14Speaker 1: then me and Gabby recently did the chronological order of
- 10:19Speaker 1: all the Star Wars movies, and I was like, I
- 10:21Speaker 1: can go on now on record, right now and say
- 10:23Speaker 1: that the first three are fucking dog ship I'm sorry.
- 10:27Speaker 1: The third ones, by far, I'm gonna see. Yeah, the
- 10:31Speaker 1: third one is the best. But I mean, when you're
- 10:32Speaker 1: talking about a ship sandwich, I mean, how good is.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Really Wars movies start with Rogue one.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it starts with Rogue one and then.
- 10:44Speaker 2: One.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Yeah, it starts yeah, exactly, it starts with Rogue one
- 10:47Speaker 1: and then ends that force awakens For me because I
- 10:50Speaker 1: don't like new we've and we've done this before. We've
- 10:52Speaker 1: already done this.
- 10:53Speaker 2: You like the last jed the Rise of Skywalker, you liked, right?
- 10:56Speaker 1: I liked it, yes, but I did rewatch it And
- 10:59Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, it is a little silly, but
- 11:01Speaker 1: we've we've for.
- 11:02Speaker 2: What Yeah, for what it was, I thought it was
- 11:04Speaker 2: a great way to end it.
- 11:06Speaker 1: For for how it worked, because well, yeah, because of
- 11:08Speaker 1: everything that happened with retconning the ret coons and.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Was trying to say something he started and it didn't
- 11:15Speaker 2: did what he could he could, so like, I can't
- 11:17Speaker 2: fault that.
- 11:18Speaker 1: But let's talk okay, so let's talk about it again.
- 11:20Speaker 1: And three three in the series, right, we're talking about
- 11:23Speaker 1: the first three the trilogy.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Wise, well, yeah, but my favorite so in that case,
- 11:27Speaker 2: my favorite is actually Empire.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Empire. Yeah. Two, and then so for the seven through nine,
- 11:31Speaker 1: Mine's Force awakens. But then you know the prequels, the
- 11:34Speaker 1: third one, so if you if you look at one
- 11:36Speaker 1: through nine.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Story progressions, because the third one spoiler alert, I don't
- 11:41Speaker 2: even care anymore, but the third one, we basically get
- 11:44Speaker 2: the rise of fucking uh Vader and that's how Vader's born.
- 11:47Speaker 2: So like, yeah, that and what's Vader got into picture?
- 11:51Speaker 1: Now?
- 11:51Speaker 2: Brilliant.
- 11:51Speaker 1: See, this is what I need from Disney at some point,
- 11:54Speaker 1: because we have only seen Vader in his very very
- 11:59Speaker 1: very first four and then like he's just he's he's
- 12:01Speaker 1: just you know, he's fucking I'm in power. I need
- 12:04Speaker 1: to see Vaders, like maybe we'll get that in Kenoby
- 12:08Speaker 1: the New Disney series, because I need to see Vader's
- 12:12Speaker 1: rise to power. We have not seen that yet, and
- 12:15Speaker 1: I need to see how he's just it's just it's
- 12:17Speaker 1: just and then and then he's Vader. There's no rise
- 12:21Speaker 1: I need.
- 12:22Speaker 2: There's a little bit of dialogue here and there, like
- 12:24Speaker 2: if you listen closely to Rug one, but it's just dialogue.
- 12:26Speaker 2: It's not usually, which is fine.
- 12:28Speaker 1: I would love to have a Vader series or like
- 12:30Speaker 1: a Vader one off movie where it's like his rise
- 12:33Speaker 1: to power? How did you go from you know, from
- 12:36Speaker 1: episode three to fucking episode four? But what's going on? Man?
- 12:40Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna see that after everything.
- 12:44Speaker 1: But Hayden Christiansen or whatever, Christian Haydensen, whatever the fuck
- 12:47Speaker 1: his name is, he's coming back to play his part again.
- 12:51Speaker 2: I thought that was just for the Ioshko or whatever
- 12:54Speaker 2: it's called. I don't know, the one where as Dawson
- 12:57Speaker 2: plays the girl with the I mean, I know he's
- 13:00Speaker 2: coming back for that Yeriares. I didn't know he was
- 13:01Speaker 2: coming back.
- 13:01Speaker 1: For He's supposed to be coming back for Kenoby, So maybe.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Half of maybe maybe like the first episode or two
- 13:06Speaker 2: are going to be like a like a prequel episode,
- 13:08Speaker 2: like like where or where or like what happened after that?
- 13:12Speaker 2: Maybe Hayden Christian will just be flashbacks like maybe they're
- 13:15Speaker 2: just throwing like the leatest things we didn't see from
- 13:17Speaker 2: the prequels or something that there's only six episodes and really,
- 13:21Speaker 2: which I know that's all they do. That's all Disney
- 13:24Speaker 2: does is six episodes for their limited series. I get it,
- 13:26Speaker 2: like it's fine, but like I think for this and
- 13:30Speaker 2: like they promise us with the Mendalorian, each one is
- 13:32Speaker 2: going to be an hour, they didn't. They didn't do that, yea,
- 13:36Speaker 2: not even with Mendalaurian. So the episodees we wrong thirty
- 13:38Speaker 2: five minutes. So what I would like is legit six
- 13:42Speaker 2: full hours of Knoby because first of all, we've we've
- 13:46Speaker 2: wanted this, we've wanted this ever since we Sawcgregor as Kanoby.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Yea, and of course coming back, my inner child is
- 13:54Speaker 1: just like yes, like like I.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Know obviously they're like I feel like it's gotta be
- 13:57Speaker 2: your prequel though, because it's gotta tie in to New
- 14:00Speaker 2: Hope where he's old.
- 14:01Speaker 1: It's got to Yeah, it's gotta go from and so
- 14:04Speaker 1: maybe so.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Maybe you know, maybe you are right, maybe we will
- 14:06Speaker 2: actually see some.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Sort of Vader something something that would be That's what
- 14:10Speaker 1: I want.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Because because of the new Hope, Obi Wan knows exactly
- 14:15Speaker 2: who Vader is, meaning he knows it's Anakin also spoil alert.
- 14:19Speaker 2: I don't even care, but yeah, so this is gonna
- 14:24Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just excited that McGregor's coming back to Kenoby.
- 14:27Speaker 2: That was that was a selling port for me. Like
- 14:29Speaker 2: like I heard that they're doing the show, and I go,
- 14:30Speaker 2: if McGregor is not Kenoby, I don't want not doing it.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Of course I'm coming back.
- 14:34Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he's just like hello. Then you're like, buddy, anyways,
- 14:39Speaker 1: welcome to the Star Wars podcast and Twilight Podcast. I'm
- 14:43Speaker 1: your host. So yeah, but I'm just super excited for
- 14:47Speaker 1: everything Disney's pumping out with uh with Star Wars. I
- 14:49Speaker 1: I was I was, I was gonna die on this
- 14:52Speaker 1: cliff way back when when they took over, and I
- 14:54Speaker 1: was like, they're gonna fucking kill it. They're gonna it's
- 14:56Speaker 1: gonna be terrible. And then they didn't, and I was like,
- 14:58Speaker 1: you know what the TV show I hate? Yeah, the
- 15:01Speaker 1: TV shows they did not and it's because they got
- 15:03Speaker 1: you know that, that that god of a human being,
- 15:07Speaker 1: like any I mean, he wrote.
- 15:09Speaker 2: I think he wrote and directed the first two or
- 15:12Speaker 2: the first and first two iron Man, and I think
- 15:15Speaker 2: he wrote the third ones.
- 15:16Speaker 1: I know he's the reason for the MCU, he's the
- 15:18Speaker 1: reason for Elf, He's the reason for so many movies
- 15:21Speaker 1: you don't even know about. And then he's also responsible
- 15:24Speaker 1: for most of the writing of Boba, Fette and Mandalorian.
- 15:28Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's written most of it, if not
- 15:30Speaker 1: all of it. I don't quote me, but I know
- 15:32Speaker 1: he's been very heavily involved.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if
- 15:35Speaker 2: he's doing Kenobi or anything, but I'm sure he's a producer.
- 15:38Speaker 1: I'm sure he's doing He's got something to do with it.
- 15:40Speaker 1: They've got a golden fucking golden cow or whatever you
- 15:43Speaker 1: want to call it. Yeah, I don't know the phrase.
- 15:45Speaker 1: I think I'm saying that right, But they know they're
- 15:46Speaker 1: gonna stick that pig because he's gonna do.
- 15:49Speaker 2: So much more in this golden goose.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Golden goose. There we go go, you're talking.
- 15:53Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it like it's a different farm animal.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Yeah, golden cows from the Bible or some shit. I
- 15:58Speaker 1: don't know. So yeah, I'm very excited to see everything
- 16:01Speaker 1: else coming out from Disney show wise and even movie wise.
- 16:04Speaker 1: We've got a whole bunch of shit. We've got Multiverse
- 16:05Speaker 1: of Madness coming out for Marvel, and that's gonna be
- 16:09Speaker 1: crazy because Sam Rainey's back to direct, Toby Maguire's rumored
- 16:12Speaker 1: to be in it. It's rumored that the X Men
- 16:15Speaker 1: cartoon or whatever they're doing animated series.
- 16:19Speaker 2: No, they're doing that as a show.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying like the old X Men animated series
- 16:23Speaker 1: is rumored to be a part of it.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Could because it makes sense them and Fantastic Four because of.
- 16:28Speaker 1: The X Men nineteen ninety nine.
- 16:30Speaker 2: They're trying to whatever it was. I think this this
- 16:33Speaker 2: movie is going to if, if indeed these rumors.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Are true, it's gonna blow the doors off of everything. Yeah.
- 16:38Speaker 2: But also, but also since Disney took over Marvel, they've
- 16:42Speaker 2: been trying to reintroduce excuse me, reintroduced X Men and
- 16:46Speaker 2: Fantastic Four.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Yeah, and like do it in a proper way.
- 16:49Speaker 2: And now and and I actually found this out after
- 16:51Speaker 2: watching the trailer for Multiverse madis kind of spoil alert
- 16:54Speaker 2: if you haven't seen the trailer or know anything about comics,
- 16:56Speaker 2: but I'm gonna be real quick with it. There's a
- 16:59Speaker 2: scene in the trailer to where you see doctor Strange's
- 17:01Speaker 2: face of the Illuminati, which.
- 17:03Speaker 1: Is uh, Professor X when you hear his voice, yeah yeah, but.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Also supposed to be the Dasta four, the stretchy guy
- 17:12Speaker 2: from Fantastic four.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Oh mister fantastic Yep, yes that guy, yeah.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Yeah, which which if he shows to be in that,
- 17:20Speaker 2: then that's the introduction of X Men and fit for
- 17:23Speaker 2: in one scene.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that means dead Pools on the way
- 17:26Speaker 1: for Marvel.
- 17:27Speaker 2: He's also rumored to be in this movie because because
- 17:30Speaker 2: when they released the posters the glass Yards, people lost
- 17:33Speaker 2: their minds.
- 17:33Speaker 1: There's no way you can top, no way home, there's
- 17:36Speaker 1: no fucking way. I don't, I don't. That's already at
- 17:38Speaker 1: five stars. That's already five stars.
- 17:41Speaker 2: There's no fucking we're gonna find out very soon.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Fucking may oh my god, I cannot, I can't.
- 17:46Speaker 2: We get Multiverse madness and Canobian May oh god, man, Well,
- 17:51Speaker 2: multiverse madness is beginning of May and is at the end.
- 17:56Speaker 1: My house is just gonna be a mess. It's just
- 17:59Speaker 1: gonna be a fun, an all over mess. Oh my god,
- 18:03Speaker 1: I cannot wait for me. It's gonna be so it's
- 18:05Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be mad, Oh my god. And on
- 18:07Speaker 1: that note, we should probably get into the movie that
- 18:09Speaker 1: we've yeah, will never get it done because we're already
- 18:13Speaker 1: twenty minutes in. It's fine, So yeah, let's let's get
- 18:16Speaker 1: down to this. Let's actually let's do some prediscussion of
- 18:19Speaker 1: like we haven't been doing that for the past twenty minutes,
- 18:22Speaker 1: but uh, let's talk about Rob Zombie a little bit.
- 18:24Speaker 1: If you've listened to this podcast and you've listened to
- 18:26Speaker 1: me any of me and Spencer's episodes, you know we
- 18:29Speaker 1: love the Halloween version of you know. No, well, no,
- 18:33Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about it, but I'm gonna mention it.
- 18:35Speaker 1: You know how much we love Rob Zombie is Halloween.
- 18:37Speaker 1: We're not gonna go into it. We've beaten that horse
- 18:40Speaker 1: like into a fucking pulp at this point, but we
- 18:43Speaker 1: love that version of Halloween. And I'd like to talk
- 18:46Speaker 1: about some of his other movies before we get into
- 18:48Speaker 1: Devil's Rejects because they're kind of hit or miss for me.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Besides Devil's Rejects and Halloween, they're, like I said, they're
- 18:55Speaker 1: kind of hit or miss. He hasn't done a lot
- 18:57Speaker 1: like thirty one for me. Did not like why I
- 19:01Speaker 1: did not, I'm not I'm not exactly sure why.
- 19:05Speaker 2: I can go into massive detail, but that was.
- 19:08Speaker 1: That was I mean, don't spoil it, but just give
- 19:11Speaker 1: like a kind of like.
- 19:11Speaker 2: So so real quick. Actually, we did a Fathom event
- 19:15Speaker 2: for that the theater and I pre screened it myself
- 19:18Speaker 2: like a couple of nights before, because yeah, why not,
- 19:21Speaker 2: why get paid to watch movies?
- 19:23Speaker 1: What way good?
- 19:25Speaker 2: So uh so that movie had to be heavily cut
- 19:27Speaker 2: from n seventeen to red Art, which if you know
- 19:30Speaker 2: anything about Rock's movies, all of his movies are, But
- 19:33Speaker 2: in doing so, the first five minutes alone, I knew
- 19:37Speaker 2: I wasn't really gonna love this movie, but I obviously
- 19:39Speaker 2: stuck it out because in the first five minutes there
- 19:41Speaker 2: is a good even probably longer, but there's a very wordy,
- 19:46Speaker 2: like just monologue from an actor and it's just his
- 19:49Speaker 2: face and you see going back and forth with his face,
- 19:52Speaker 2: from from him talking to him to showing what he's
- 19:54Speaker 2: what he's what he's talking about. Right there, the continuity
- 19:59Speaker 2: with his face keeps cutting back and forth from blood
- 20:01Speaker 2: on his face to blood not on his face. It's
- 20:02Speaker 2: in black and white, so you can't really tell if
- 20:04Speaker 2: it's blood or not. But like when you watch the movie,
- 20:05Speaker 2: you' understand.
- 20:06Speaker 1: It, Yeah, you'll assume it.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Yeah, But every time the camera goes from his face
- 20:09Speaker 2: to what he's talking to and back, his face looks different.
- 20:12Speaker 2: So it's like they had to cut his monologue very
- 20:15Speaker 2: lenkly or whatever, or maybe they just didn't notice it
- 20:18Speaker 2: during uh, during and post, but like it was very distracting.
- 20:21Speaker 1: So right off the bat, you're just you're I was
- 20:24Speaker 1: like ugh, But I also just thought the story was crap. Yeah.
- 20:29Speaker 1: I wasn't a fan of the story. And if you
- 20:31Speaker 1: don't know what the story is about, let me give
- 20:33Speaker 1: you a quick little rundown here, because this movie came
- 20:35Speaker 1: out twenty sixteen. It's about five carnival workers who are
- 20:40Speaker 1: kidnapped and held hostage in an abandoned Hellish compound, where
- 20:43Speaker 1: they are forced to participate in a violent game. The
- 20:45Speaker 1: goal of which is to survive twelve hours against a
- 20:48Speaker 1: gang of sadistic clowns. Sounds fucking sick.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Oh it tracks to be fun, but it yeah it was.
- 20:53Speaker 1: It sounds fucking sick. And I really like the I
- 20:55Speaker 1: think my favorite part about that movie was the Little Person.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was so great and just so crazy
- 21:01Speaker 1: and I loved him. But that was about it for me.
- 21:04Speaker 2: I think, what what quite honestly, like on paper, it
- 21:06Speaker 2: sounds good and like I like, I like things about it,
- 21:09Speaker 2: but ultimately I didn't like the movie. And I think
- 21:11Speaker 2: that has to do with the multiple because when you
- 21:13Speaker 2: cut a movie, you're cutting your story no matter what.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Yeah, when you have to have so many cuts just
- 21:18Speaker 1: to get in our rating.
- 21:19Speaker 2: And I was hoping, I was hoping, Uh, I was hoping,
- 21:25Speaker 2: like when it came out on DVD Your Bluery he
- 21:27Speaker 2: on a ready cut, which most of his movies are,
- 21:29Speaker 2: but it never did. So I never gave that a
- 21:30Speaker 2: second chance. I will not get unless unless unless he
- 21:33Speaker 2: more actually somehow makes makes you know, a notre ready
- 21:36Speaker 2: to cut come out of nowhere. I'm not gonna give
- 21:38Speaker 2: that another another look because I just feel like it's
- 21:41Speaker 2: that that was one of the movies. You know, movies
- 21:44Speaker 2: do this, but I think the was the movies that
- 21:46Speaker 2: suffered from the multiple cuts. And you know, you know,
- 21:49Speaker 2: because you cut part of your story, so like you
- 21:51Speaker 2: have plot holes and stuff like that, and in this
- 21:53Speaker 2: movie it's very noticeable.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Yeah, And for me, it was just I just felt
- 21:57Speaker 1: that I remember seeing it a while back, and I
- 21:59Speaker 1: remember just not liking the execution of how it was done.
- 22:03Speaker 1: And I really didn't like any of the characters. And
- 22:06Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, you don't really like
- 22:08Speaker 1: a lot of the characters in Rob Zombie's movies, but
- 22:10Speaker 1: there's typically one I can connect with at least on
- 22:13Speaker 1: some sort of level, and in this one, I felt
- 22:15Speaker 1: it was just all the characters were just completely unlikable,
- 22:19Speaker 1: and I felt like they were all expendable at the
- 22:21Speaker 1: same time, there was no one that there's no one
- 22:23Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, yeah, me and you we
- 22:25Speaker 1: would vibe. So that's thirty one. Let's go back to
- 22:30Speaker 1: the very beginning of where this all started, because, as
- 22:32Speaker 1: you know, you should know, Rob Zombie is a songwriter.
- 22:36Speaker 1: You know, he has his own band, Rob Zombie's. I
- 22:39Speaker 1: think it's literally just Rob Zombie that that's the banding
- 22:42Speaker 1: like fucking tight. So he did a lot of music
- 22:45Speaker 1: videos for himself, weirdly enough. But then the first movie
- 22:48Speaker 1: he ever did was House of a Thousand Corpses. And now,
- 22:50Speaker 1: while I do appreciate this movie and I do like it.
- 22:53Speaker 1: I think it's a great movie, I think it's still
- 22:55Speaker 1: not one of his strongest movies. But again, I mean,
- 22:57Speaker 1: that's your first fucking movie.
- 23:00Speaker 2: People's first movies aren't gonna be blown out of.
- 23:02Speaker 1: The water unless you're like Stanley Kubrick or something like that.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Then you know, then you have something. Yeah, then you're
- 23:08Speaker 1: then you're a little different.
- 23:09Speaker 2: Yeah, this this guy just you know, he had money. Obviously,
- 23:11Speaker 2: he he loves movies, so he wanted to take a
- 23:14Speaker 2: take a stab at it.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, I mean take a couple of stabs.
- 23:18Speaker 2: People just doesn't work with. Like Fred dirsk directed like
- 23:20Speaker 2: two movies and they both were ass Yeah he directed,
- 23:24Speaker 2: he did, And then he did an old, old like
- 23:28Speaker 2: football like Family one with a call something with a
- 23:30Speaker 2: with a ice cube in it, Football one, And that's
- 23:33Speaker 2: how I found out. This was years ago.
- 23:36Speaker 1: No no, yeah, no no no. So his second movie
- 23:40Speaker 1: that he ever did was Devil's Rejects, which is obviously
- 23:43Speaker 1: what we're talking about today, and it's one it's literally
- 23:45Speaker 1: my favorite zombie movie as as well as yours, besides Halloween.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Correct then we have Halloween Halloween two, which not so good,
- 23:56Speaker 1: and then we have Lords of Salem, which I'm so
- 23:58Speaker 1: mixed on because I was really enjoying it up until
- 24:01Speaker 1: one moment. I don't want to ruin it. But there's
- 24:03Speaker 1: a moment where this little character is introduced and I
- 24:05Speaker 1: was like, and now I'm out of this movie.
- 24:07Speaker 2: It took me. I'm not a fan of that movie,
- 24:09Speaker 2: and it literally took me, you know me, Like, I'm
- 24:12Speaker 2: not gonna just turn off a movie or walk out
- 24:14Speaker 2: of a movie unless I absolutely want to. I mean,
- 24:16Speaker 2: I saw this at home, but it took me literally
- 24:19Speaker 2: three tries to finish this movie. Really, yeah, I had to.
- 24:24Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. But I'm like, oh wow, But
- 24:26Speaker 2: every time I watched it, I got a little further.
- 24:28Speaker 2: So I was like, you know what, I gotta truck along.
- 24:31Speaker 2: Like by the end of by like my third try,
- 24:34Speaker 2: I think I had about forty minutes left of the
- 24:36Speaker 2: movie and it's an hour, like forty minute movie anyway.
- 24:38Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm just like you know what, screw it,
- 24:40Speaker 1: let's go.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Even if I'm walking around like, do another shit on
- 24:42Speaker 2: my phone whatever, I don't care. I'm going to say
- 24:44Speaker 2: I finished this movie, but it took me three tries.
- 24:47Speaker 2: I should say something that's like, if you listen to
- 24:50Speaker 2: this and you know me like three tries. First of all,
- 24:52Speaker 2: I'm like, I usually don't get if I don't like
- 24:54Speaker 2: the movie, you're not gonna see me get into a
- 24:56Speaker 2: second try.
- 24:56Speaker 1: It's rare.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh, I wanted to becau. I kept getting
- 25:00Speaker 2: further with it, but I just I just kept like nope.
- 25:03Speaker 2: So I finished it and I'm still like nope.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Yeah, still like nope. And you know what's funny is
- 25:06Speaker 1: it took me so long to realize that the person
- 25:09Speaker 1: on the cover with the dreads it's fucking Sherry Moon Zombie.
- 25:13Speaker 1: I just like the when I actually went to watch it,
- 25:16Speaker 1: I was looking through and I looked at it and
- 25:17Speaker 1: I'm like, that's fucking Sheherry Moon Zombie. I had no
- 25:20Speaker 1: idea that that was her. Yeah, so Lords of Salem
- 25:22Speaker 1: is definitely a weird one.
- 25:24Speaker 2: I mean, if you're in a like Witches all, let
- 25:26Speaker 2: me not saying I'm not into that, but I just
- 25:27Speaker 2: I think the way he went about it was it
- 25:29Speaker 2: was it was his own way, which I mean, he's
- 25:31Speaker 2: done all of his movies as a way, but this
- 25:34Speaker 2: way just didn't work.
- 25:35Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's what I love about him,
- 25:36Speaker 1: because he doesn't give a fuck. He will do his
- 25:39Speaker 1: movie his own way, and that works sometimes, but then
- 25:42Speaker 1: in this case it doesn't work.
- 25:43Speaker 2: It doesn't.
- 25:44Speaker 1: So you have Lords of Salem, which was from twenty twelve,
- 25:47Speaker 1: and then going up down, going down the list. Here
- 25:50Speaker 1: we have thirty one again and then three from how
- 25:52Speaker 1: now three from How I quite enjoyed. I did too,
- 25:55Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed. Besides Scherry Moon Zombie being completely maniacal
- 25:59Speaker 1: in the beginning first half, like the first half hour.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Once they break out of the asylum or whatever it
- 26:06Speaker 1: is in jail, then she's fine, but that's oh my god,
- 26:09Speaker 1: I was like, I can't.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Even She definitely she overdid it. She definitely tried to
- 26:15Speaker 2: pull out her own Harley Quinn, which I mean, okay.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Yeah she really did, because yeah, but like it's just.
- 26:21Speaker 2: At first I was okay with it, but then as
- 26:23Speaker 2: it kept going, I'm like, this is gonna be her
- 26:25Speaker 2: the whole.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Film that insame, and I was thinking the same thing.
- 26:28Speaker 2: It wasn't like okay, okay, thank.
- 26:30Speaker 1: God, because I'm not yeah any of that, but like, yeah,
- 26:34Speaker 1: I'm not doing that.
- 26:35Speaker 2: She she definitely like like turned up her cuckoo to eleven.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Yeah, her fucking cuckoo clock was broken. So yeah, that's
- 26:42Speaker 1: all the movies he's done. Like, you know, he's done one,
- 26:44Speaker 1: so we got one too, and I know both of.
- 26:47Speaker 2: Us are excited for his new one, or at least
- 26:49Speaker 2: to see how it happens is the Munsters.
- 26:51Speaker 1: I'm very excited.
- 26:53Speaker 2: I'm excited but also scared.
- 26:54Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like walking into the jungle.
- 26:57Speaker 1: It's like, I'm excited to see all this fun stuff,
- 26:58Speaker 1: but there could be something around the corner that might
- 27:01Speaker 1: eat me and kill me. So I'm like, I'm excited,
- 27:03Speaker 1: but I'm also very nervous.
- 27:04Speaker 2: That him and his wife Sherryman's on me. They're huge fans,
- 27:08Speaker 2: which okay, I can appreciate that, so at least they're
- 27:10Speaker 2: gonna do maybe the story justice, but the fact that
- 27:13Speaker 2: you're making it raded R?
- 27:14Speaker 1: Which is it rated R?
- 27:16Speaker 2: He promised it was going to be.
- 27:18Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I thought you were just speculating.
- 27:21Speaker 2: No, no, I even think it says it on IMDb
- 27:24Speaker 2: trivia he said, yeah, it's gonna be a rated R movie.
- 27:27Speaker 2: And as soon as I saw that, I'm like, why
- 27:30Speaker 2: is rated G on TV? Like if anything boosted the
- 27:33Speaker 2: PG thirteen because even the Adams Family, which was around
- 27:36Speaker 2: was at the same time, is you know, was PG
- 27:39Speaker 2: thirteen and just for like the darkness and the humor.
- 27:42Speaker 2: But like, I'm like, why should the Munchess be red R,
- 27:44Speaker 2: Like if you're giving them a like a gritty like
- 27:46Speaker 2: backstory like you did with like the original Halloween, like
- 27:49Speaker 2: his Halloween. I'm sorry then, okay, but like there's no
- 27:52Speaker 2: really I don't. I can't imagine the Munster is being
- 27:54Speaker 2: raded R. No, you can't, which is why I'm scared.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Other than that, I'm not.
- 27:58Speaker 1: I don't see a rating yet on IMDb and I
- 28:00Speaker 1: don't even see Oh I do see trivia. Here we go.
- 28:02Speaker 2: You see if I think I read it in trivia
- 28:04Speaker 2: or who says, yeah.
- 28:05Speaker 1: I don't see trivia or or on the IMDb.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe it was just something he was talking
- 28:09Speaker 2: about that he wants to make your raditar I mean,
- 28:12Speaker 2: maybe maybe that's going to backtrack and make you PG
- 28:14Speaker 2: thirteen I will accept.
- 28:15Speaker 1: PG thirteen is that your feet were playing season a
- 28:19Speaker 1: nice nice. It is listed as a comedy, fantasy, horror,
- 28:23Speaker 1: sci fi, so we shall see. I know he's doing that.
- 28:27Speaker 1: And the thing I like about it, though, is I
- 28:28Speaker 1: know he's doing it justice. He's literally building from scratch,
- 28:33Speaker 1: the whole food. Yeah, not even the street or not
- 28:36Speaker 1: even the house or the street. The fucking new.
- 28:39Speaker 2: Who's building from the ground up. It's pretty great.
- 28:41Speaker 1: So that's a good start. But of course, fucking Sherry
- 28:44Speaker 1: Moon Zombies playing Lilith, Lilith, I think her name is Lilith.
- 28:49Speaker 2: I know, I know. I'm honestly not super fan of
- 28:51Speaker 2: the cast who they are.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a fan of Daniel Roebuck is Grandpa
- 28:55Speaker 1: Monster and Jeff Daniel Phillips is Herman Monster.
- 28:59Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm still spectacle about.
- 29:01Speaker 1: That, spectacle skeptical of that. I'm spectacle. Yeah, but yeah,
- 29:06Speaker 1: it's Lily. Sorry, it's Lily. Yeah, Sherryman Zombie is Lily.
- 29:08Speaker 1: I'm just like, she doesn't overdo it. I just don't
- 29:12Speaker 1: overdo it. Like I love you, Rob Zombie, but you
- 29:15Speaker 1: don't have to put your wife and everything. You don't
- 29:17Speaker 1: have to, but you do, and that's kind of the
- 29:19Speaker 1: reason some of your movies don't work. But saying, but
- 29:23Speaker 1: I mean, hey, if you know, if you love her
- 29:25Speaker 1: and you want to do that, I mean, go for it.
- 29:27Speaker 1: You know it's fucking I assume it's I mean, is
- 29:30Speaker 1: it free? Like does she does he pay her? How
- 29:33Speaker 1: does that work?
- 29:34Speaker 2: I mean, she's an actress. I'm sure he pays her.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Just this random thought popped into my head, you know
- 29:40Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 29:40Speaker 2: Real quickly? Do it to have fun or think about
- 29:44Speaker 2: so in the Other Worlds, the director Lenn Wiseman was
- 29:46Speaker 2: married to Kate Becketts Sale during those.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Movies, she was already an established actor though you know
- 29:51Speaker 1: what I mean, like fucking he was.
- 29:52Speaker 2: But but I'm just saying, like I think it would
- 29:54Speaker 2: go the same way, like you're still going.
- 29:55Speaker 1: To She's only an actress because of him, you know
- 29:58Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 29:58Speaker 2: But say, what's the Milijoevic. Paul W. S Anderson directed
- 30:03Speaker 2: her and all the Resident Evils. Yeah, so it's I
- 30:05Speaker 2: don't think it matters if it's established or not, Like
- 30:07Speaker 2: you're still gonna pay unless she literally says no, I
- 30:10Speaker 2: don't want I don't need to take any money, but
- 30:12Speaker 2: I will.
- 30:13Speaker 1: I mean, he's just worth so much money. I don't think,
- 30:15Speaker 1: you know what, that would be so weird to pay,
- 30:17Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it's just weird to think about,
- 30:19Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, because he's got so
- 30:20Speaker 1: much money, that.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Would be a great interview question if we ever interviewed
- 30:24Speaker 2: them or just him.
- 30:24Speaker 1: Like I'm just curious, Like I don't need to know
- 30:26Speaker 1: how much you're paying, Like, like, how does that work?
- 30:28Speaker 1: You know what I mean, since you guys are married,
- 30:29Speaker 1: and really the only reason that she's an actress is
- 30:32Speaker 1: because of you, you know, so like how does how
- 30:34Speaker 1: does that work? That is? I don't know. I just ran.
- 30:36Speaker 2: I mean she's always also in most of his music videos,
- 30:38Speaker 2: so like, so I wonder if she's doing it to
- 30:40Speaker 2: support husband, which you know, awesome, great wife. I mean
- 30:43Speaker 2: they've been to go forever, so like, well that's.
- 30:45Speaker 1: What I'm thinking. I'm thinking maybe she's just like I'll act,
- 30:47Speaker 1: you know, and just do it for fun or whatever.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Like I have no idea. Actually it's actually a very interesting.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Maybe for the must is the huge fan, She's like,
- 30:54Speaker 2: I'll fucking just do this because I want to.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Yeah, and like, do we know when that's slated to
- 30:58Speaker 1: come out? Is there any literally the website?
- 31:00Speaker 2: I know, but I don't.
- 31:02Speaker 1: Okay, it's in pre production so probably uh, dependably next year.
- 31:07Speaker 2: We'll started filming last year last Halloween ish time, so
- 31:11Speaker 2: like I would think, maybe.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Didn't start filming. Yeah, they were still building, they're still building.
- 31:15Speaker 2: They Okay, so somebody hasn't started.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Pre production means they're not They haven't.
- 31:19Speaker 2: But IMD doesn't always update with yeah, it's true, so
- 31:22Speaker 2: but I always know the movie is done.
- 31:23Speaker 1: What is this? It literally is listed. It's literally listed
- 31:27Speaker 1: as untitled The Monster's Reboot. Interesting. Interesting, interesting. So yeah,
- 31:32Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I'm excited, but I'm a
- 31:35Speaker 1: little scared.
- 31:36Speaker 2: Yes, what stuff starts coming out, though, I'll get either
- 31:40Speaker 2: more scared or excited exactly.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Yeah, once we get more pieces of the puzzle, will.
- 31:43Speaker 2: Be able to ice a teaser comes out like I
- 31:45Speaker 2: don't know's like like.
- 31:47Speaker 1: A a sweat beating on my face. I don't know.
- 31:51Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this fucking movie here. We've
- 31:53Speaker 1: still got plenty of time we have to talk about this.
- 31:55Speaker 1: So we are doing The Devil's Rejects from two thousand
- 31:58Speaker 1: and five, released on July twenty second of that year
- 32:01Speaker 1: in the USA. This is the most hard R movie
- 32:05Speaker 1: we've ever reviewed this year because this is rated R
- 32:08Speaker 1: for severe sex and nudity, severe violence and gore, severe profanity,
- 32:14Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty four uses of the word fuck
- 32:16Speaker 1: and shit, shit, fuck, severe alcohol, drugs and smoking, and
- 32:22Speaker 1: severe frightening and intense scenes. Everything is severe. And I mean, yeah,
- 32:27Speaker 1: that makes sense. This is a liar because the runtime
- 32:31Speaker 1: on my Blue wire, well, the runtime on my Blue
- 32:34Speaker 1: ray was an hour fifty and fifty three seconds, so
- 32:38Speaker 1: fuck this hour forty seven. Even the back of my
- 32:40Speaker 1: Blu ray set an hour forty nine. Yeah, we all
- 32:42Speaker 1: know what the fuck's going on.
- 32:44Speaker 2: This, but yeah, we know the run time is an
- 32:46Speaker 2: hour and fifty.
- 32:46Speaker 1: Yeah we know it because we were we were just
- 32:48Speaker 1: finishing this up. So this is listed crazy enough as
- 32:52Speaker 1: a crime horror Western. Now I'm not surprised, but I'm
- 32:56Speaker 1: also surprised.
- 32:58Speaker 2: The Western because it's it's mostly out in the deserts in.
- 33:00Speaker 1: The desert area cowboy hats, you know, it's I think
- 33:03Speaker 1: it's supposed to be set in uh, I mean Alabama,
- 33:06Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, And it looks like it looks like Texas.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Yeah, Texas. It could be.
- 33:10Speaker 1: I mean it's shot in California, but it looks like
- 33:12Speaker 1: it's in Texas. But I remember, I remember one of
- 33:14Speaker 1: the main guy says something about something something fucking Alabama.
- 33:17Speaker 1: So either it's in Alabama or he just referenced something
- 33:19Speaker 1: about it. Yeah.
- 33:20Speaker 2: But but yeah, so the Western they probably get just like, uh,
- 33:23Speaker 2: the Hills of Eyes might be listed as a Western,
- 33:25Speaker 2: I don't remember it was not, Oh okay.
- 33:27Speaker 1: So I really think it's a Western because everyone's dressed
- 33:29Speaker 1: like a cowboy, you know, like the police officers are
- 33:31Speaker 1: just like cowboys.
- 33:32Speaker 2: You know. One of the guns they use are just
- 33:33Speaker 2: the six shooters, which is used usually in western.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Yeah. Because it's also set this is also set in
- 33:38Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight too, so that might also have something.
- 33:41Speaker 2: To do with you know, there's a lot of spaghetti
- 33:42Speaker 2: westerns that came out around that time and stuff too,
- 33:44Speaker 2: So it could just be because of that.
- 33:46Speaker 1: So it makes sense. Directed by none on, none other
- 33:49Speaker 1: than Rob Zombie, as we talked about so many people.
- 33:52Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I got lazy, what it's just it's hilarious.
- 33:58Speaker 1: I got lazy with this because like it really is,
- 34:01Speaker 1: starring so many people you should know.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Sorry, everybody that's been in a robe at least one time.
- 34:06Speaker 1: I mean, for fos sake, you have Sid Haig. If
- 34:08Speaker 1: you don't know that name, go watch Jackie Brown. Go
- 34:11Speaker 1: watch fucking House. Yeah, he's the judge and Jackie Brown
- 34:15Speaker 1: was I mean, go you know. If you don't know
- 34:16Speaker 1: Sherry Moon Zombie, go watch a rob Zombie movie music video. Yeah.
- 34:20Speaker 1: If you don't know Bill Moseley, fucking go watch Texas
- 34:22Speaker 1: Chainsaw Massacre too, or any of the other ship he's done,
- 34:25Speaker 1: Prisoners of the ghost Land Repo, the Genetic Opera. I mean,
- 34:28Speaker 1: the man has done U.
- 34:30Speaker 2: We got William Forsyth, who played the cop was also
- 34:33Speaker 2: the ship head Stepdad had Stepdad from Halloween.
- 34:37Speaker 1: Yeah, we got Ken Foray, the fucking guy from From Beyond.
- 34:40Speaker 1: I mean, the guy has done so much ship from Beyond.
- 34:42Speaker 1: He was Joe Grizzly Bitch and Hell and Halloween. And
- 34:46Speaker 1: then you have Matthew Matthew mcgoory who was tiny you
- 34:50Speaker 1: know him because of just how big.
- 34:52Speaker 2: And an American horror story before he.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Died American horror story Big Fish. He was in Bubble Boy.
- 34:57Speaker 1: He was in a whole bunch of stuff.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought it was funny. I'm just like,
- 35:01Speaker 2: you know what, fuck it? Yeah, so many people.
- 35:03Speaker 1: Because these are huge A list actors, you know what
- 35:05Speaker 1: I mean. And then okay, they're a list in the
- 35:09Speaker 1: horror genre, the horror genre, but there be and be
- 35:13Speaker 1: in the race and the rest of the world. But yeah,
- 35:15Speaker 1: if you're into horror movies and even listen to this podcast,
- 35:17Speaker 1: this cast is someone you should know through and through. Like,
- 35:20Speaker 1: there's so many fucking amazing actors and actresses in this movie. Yeah,
- 35:24Speaker 1: so I got lazy with it, but yes, all the
- 35:26Speaker 1: people I mentioned and then many more are in this
- 35:29Speaker 1: It's such a great cast. It's I love the cast
- 35:31Speaker 1: in this movie.
- 35:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:32Speaker 1: We've got an estimated budget of seven million dollars doing
- 35:35Speaker 1: a worldwide box office gross of twenty essentially twenty one million,
- 35:40Speaker 1: twenty point nine million.
- 35:41Speaker 2: That's a win.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's almost three times your budget right
- 35:44Speaker 1: there for this type of movie, for this type of movie.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, that's a win. Tripling your money is a win.
- 35:52Speaker 1: This was filmed at the Sable Ranch that's where the
- 35:54Speaker 1: Firefly House was four acres Movie Ranch club ed film set,
- 35:59Speaker 1: which was the Mote and then other various spots close
- 36:01Speaker 1: by in California.
- 36:03Speaker 2: That's probably where's probably where they saved a bunch of
- 36:05Speaker 2: money just by doing on small little like like one one,
- 36:08Speaker 2: one little location.
- 36:09Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually in the trivia, well, there's actually a fun
- 36:12Speaker 1: piece of trivia about Supernatural that we'll get to involving
- 36:16Speaker 1: the Sable ranch.
- 36:17Speaker 2: Nice.
- 36:18Speaker 1: You can rent this on ammenon amanon amon amnon.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Did you get that off a Wish subscription?
- 36:24Speaker 1: Yeah right. You can get this for three ninety nine
- 36:28Speaker 1: on Amazon or a nine to ninety nine purchase, or
- 36:32Speaker 1: or you can watch this for free on Voodoo with
- 36:35Speaker 1: advertisements fun fact. Or I can just watch it on
- 36:39Speaker 1: your Voodoo since I have that or my blue red yeah.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Which is whatever we own. It's fine.
- 36:45Speaker 1: You can rent this also on Voodoo for three ninety
- 36:47Speaker 1: nine or purchase it for seven ninety nine, but just
- 36:49Speaker 1: watch it with ads. I mean I wouldn't watch it
- 36:52Speaker 1: with ads. I hate ads. I need to watch a
- 36:54Speaker 1: movie be uninterrupted.
- 36:55Speaker 2: But also but also on Voodoo, the way they do ads,
- 36:58Speaker 2: like you'll turn like an hour and like fifty maybe
- 37:00Speaker 2: to almost two and a half.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like how free for a reason. It's how
- 37:04Speaker 1: IMDbTV does it. It's like, oh, one, ad then two,
- 37:08Speaker 1: then three, then seven.
- 37:09Speaker 2: You're like, uh yeah, okay, So like I don't recommend
- 37:12Speaker 2: it watching it with that, but if you have the
- 37:13Speaker 2: time and not the cash, sure.
- 37:15Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if you have the time exactly, that's a
- 37:17Speaker 1: perfect way to put that. Yep, movies that came out
- 37:20Speaker 1: around the same time. Let me fill you in with
- 37:22Speaker 1: some knowledge here, because there's a lot of good ship
- 37:25Speaker 1: holy crap. Yeah, so we've got Herbie Fully Loaded, Bewitched,
- 37:30Speaker 1: Fucking George A. Romero's Land of the Dead, Fantastic Four,
- 37:34Speaker 1: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Bad News Bears, the
- 37:38Speaker 1: Dukes of Hazardduce Bigelow, European Jigglow, Grizzly Man. There was
- 37:43Speaker 1: not one single bear attack in that movie, and I
- 37:45Speaker 1: was fucking upset, wasted so much time. The Skeleton Key
- 37:50Speaker 1: and the forty year Old Virgin talk about time to
- 37:52Speaker 1: be a love.
- 37:53Speaker 2: Also a lot of raunchy comedies in this. This is
- 37:56Speaker 2: two thousand and five, I know, but Bears, Dukes of Hazard,
- 38:00Speaker 2: Dude Virgin geez.
- 38:03Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of raunchy comedies in this. So yeah,
- 38:05Speaker 1: there's a lot of good ship. I literally couldn't even
- 38:08Speaker 1: include everything. I had to cut out five or six
- 38:10Speaker 1: because I'm like, okay, I'm like this is too many,
- 38:12Speaker 1: But there was five or six.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Out there, Like that's what you said. It comes out
- 38:14Speaker 2: came out in what July?
- 38:15Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, summer, so that makes sense. But yeah, a
- 38:20Speaker 1: lot of good movies coming out around that time. Let's
- 38:22Speaker 1: get on to some of our favorite moments here, specifically
- 38:25Speaker 1: with favorites or sorry, specific horror moment. Did you have
- 38:29Speaker 1: a specific moment of horror that you were like, oh,
- 38:32Speaker 1: just like eyes just well it.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Wasn't really my I mean yes, but just like the
- 38:37Speaker 2: hell's have eyes that the uncomfortable, uh, the uncomfortable uh.
- 38:42Speaker 1: The motel scene, yes, with how Otis was just being
- 38:45Speaker 1: a fucking wild man.
- 38:47Speaker 2: But like that hole, that whole, the whole first the
- 38:49Speaker 2: whole Yeah, when they were all there before like once,
- 38:52Speaker 2: what's the I guess the guys left, But like, I'm
- 38:54Speaker 2: weird as that comes off. But if you've seen the movie,
- 38:55Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying. But like the first half
- 38:57Speaker 2: of the whole motel scene was just so uncomfortable. Yea,
- 39:01Speaker 2: just like the scene of Hills of Eyes was so comfortable,
- 39:03Speaker 2: but it was so powerful at the same time. So
- 39:06Speaker 2: that scene was my specific horror moment.
- 39:08Speaker 1: See, that's funny. My scene is the scene directly after
- 39:11Speaker 1: that when Otis takes the boys to the desert because
- 39:15Speaker 1: he's literally he's literally leading them to their graves because
- 39:19Speaker 1: they're like, where are we going. He's like, oh, just
- 39:21Speaker 1: down here, has just keep going and he's like and
- 39:23Speaker 1: it's like, well, what do we do. He's like, Oh,
- 39:24Speaker 1: we're gonna go dig up some guns and then you know,
- 39:26Speaker 1: it's the end of the road for you guys. And
- 39:27Speaker 1: then he's like what And then that whole and that
- 39:30Speaker 1: whole scene where they try to attack him, and then
- 39:34Speaker 1: Otis is just this badass motherfucker beating the ship out
- 39:37Speaker 1: of that guy with the stick and then he's like,
- 39:38Speaker 1: you know, I am the devil. I'm here to do
- 39:39Speaker 1: the devil's work. Chills every time. I'm just like, oh,
- 39:42Speaker 1: Bill Mosley, You're so fucking awesome. So that's my that's
- 39:45Speaker 1: my horror moment, which is funny because ours go hand
- 39:47Speaker 1: in hand. Yeah, mine right before yours favorite kill? Do
- 39:52Speaker 1: you have a favorite kill? And there's not a lot
- 39:54Speaker 1: of there's not a lot of really weirdly.
- 39:56Speaker 2: No, there's a lot of like killings.
- 39:58Speaker 1: In this there's a few, though, there is a there's
- 40:00Speaker 1: a few.
- 40:02Speaker 2: I'd say because it's so random and just just out
- 40:05Speaker 2: of nowhere. Is when they killed Bill Pulsan in the hotel.
- 40:11Speaker 2: It was just random.
- 40:12Speaker 1: That's mine too, because everyone at that point is in
- 40:14Speaker 1: the motel room with Otis and baby and they're like,
- 40:18Speaker 1: what the fuck's going on? And then the main guy
- 40:21Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, but he's like the leader
- 40:23Speaker 1: of the band. He's like, you know, Otis like is
- 40:25Speaker 1: this everyone? He's like yeah, And then fucking yeah, Brian
- 40:28Speaker 1: knocks on the door and he's like, who the.
- 40:29Speaker 2: Fuck is that.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I know, I can't trust you.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Mother fu.
- 40:32Speaker 1: Yeah, just opens he opens the door and that just
- 40:36Speaker 1: comes into goosh and I'm just like, what the fuck? Yeah,
- 40:39Speaker 1: you literally killed your friend because you didn't tell him
- 40:41Speaker 1: he was coming in the room.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
- 40:44Speaker 1: It was just so crazy and uncalled for. And then
- 40:46Speaker 1: I guess another good uh, another good kill was the
- 40:49Speaker 1: uh actually, you know what, I don't even want to
- 40:51Speaker 1: spoil that one. I don't eve want to spoil that one,
- 40:54Speaker 1: but it involves a car. I don't want to spoil
- 40:56Speaker 1: that do that.
- 40:57Speaker 2: But my other one was actually also in the hotel
- 40:59Speaker 2: where one of the girls, uh was in the bathroom
- 41:03Speaker 2: and Baby was just like she was escaping, and Baby
- 41:07Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck but the door was locked.
- 41:09Speaker 2: And then the this other girl that was in there
- 41:11Speaker 2: was was like just like she had a gun but
- 41:14Speaker 2: there's no bullets in it, and Baby just I don't know,
- 41:16Speaker 2: he just throws the knife so smoothly, and oh yeah,
- 41:19Speaker 2: I thought that was but it was just so smooth
- 41:23Speaker 2: because you knew she was gonna die, but you're like
- 41:25Speaker 2: how and then all sudden I'm like, oh, there you go.
- 41:29Speaker 2: You're you're you're seeing that you're talking about. It was
- 41:30Speaker 2: also my other favorite.
- 41:31Speaker 1: It's it's, oh my god, this movie it's good. It
- 41:34Speaker 1: is so disturbing that this is one of my favorite
- 41:36Speaker 1: movies because it's so fucked up.
- 41:40Speaker 2: Some of the shots and score in this movie are
- 41:43Speaker 2: just unbelievably like amazing and have no business being in
- 41:46Speaker 2: this movie. Looking the way they do.
- 41:50Speaker 1: I can't imitate it perfectly, but that in no way
- 41:52Speaker 1: is when she's running away, it's like like so good,
- 41:55Speaker 1: you can tell where he got a lot of his
- 41:57Speaker 1: Halloween score from because a lot of it is very
- 42:00Speaker 1: alert to this. I think Tyler Bates also scored his
- 42:04Speaker 1: Halloween movie. I think I'm pretty sure. But yeah, it's
- 42:07Speaker 1: a lot of great, like crazy moments in this movie.
- 42:11Speaker 1: I have three lines because I could not pick, but
- 42:14Speaker 1: what what did you have?
- 42:15Speaker 2: A favorite line was the one we already said with
- 42:17Speaker 2: the with the otis swear, I have the devil that
- 42:19Speaker 2: I'm here to do. Yes, it's not just that line,
- 42:22Speaker 2: it's it's how he delivered it. So so like we
- 42:25Speaker 2: already said, like he's going crazy, Like these two guys,
- 42:28Speaker 2: you know they're about to get murdered by him, so
- 42:29Speaker 2: they tried to fight back, and you know you could
- 42:32Speaker 2: hear him. You know, he's said his dialogue bil, most
- 42:34Speaker 2: of his dialogue, have a fun with it. And then
- 42:35Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he like turns into like an
- 42:37Speaker 2: Academy Award winning actor to give this line, and you're
- 42:40Speaker 2: just like.
- 42:42Speaker 1: Fuck what You're like Jesus, like.
- 42:45Speaker 2: You said, chills, little chills.
- 42:47Speaker 1: Literal chills, because the winds blowing his hair in his
- 42:49Speaker 1: face and he takes like.
- 42:51Speaker 2: He literally looks like an County Award winning like cinematography
- 42:53Speaker 2: scene this happening, and he's just throwing out this dialogue.
- 42:55Speaker 2: But he does it so goddamn well.
- 42:57Speaker 1: It doesn't so well because the camera is like from
- 42:59Speaker 1: the guys for inspect of looking up at him. The
- 43:01Speaker 1: wind is blowing and Otis's hair and then he just
- 43:03Speaker 1: takes his right hand and pulls his hair across his
- 43:05Speaker 1: face like this. He's like, I am the devil and
- 43:07Speaker 1: I'm here to do the devil's work, and you're.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Like, it's awesome. He just said the line without with
- 43:12Speaker 2: like the way he delivered it. I want to give
- 43:13Speaker 2: a shit, but the way he delivered it was like.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Fuck, Like yeah, Like, and I'm dude, I've got my
- 43:17Speaker 1: devil's reject pride going on. I didn't. I couldn't find
- 43:20Speaker 1: my I literally have a shirt that says I am
- 43:21Speaker 1: the Devil and I'm here. Yeah. I couldn't find that one.
- 43:24Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, I'll settle for this one.
- 43:25Speaker 1: But that line is just so good, and it just
- 43:28Speaker 1: it hits me right in my soul every time. I'm
- 43:30Speaker 1: just like ooh. Because that's also loosely derived from the
- 43:33Speaker 1: Manson murders. Because Manson or his fall, it's in the trivia.
- 43:37Speaker 1: We'll get to it. But I thought that was a
- 43:39Speaker 1: really interesting thing because I also got very Manson vibes
- 43:42Speaker 1: from this, you know, just to try it. It's like
- 43:44Speaker 1: a family running around just fucking killing people. Yeah, I
- 43:46Speaker 1: got very Manson.
- 43:48Speaker 2: I wonder if maybe that's where he got some of
- 43:49Speaker 2: the inspiration.
- 43:50Speaker 1: Because I mean it has to be. He's using almost
- 43:52Speaker 1: direct quotes. Yeah, so I guarantee some of his inspiration
- 43:56Speaker 1: probably came from the Manson murders, because didn't they take
- 43:59Speaker 1: place in the set as well.
- 44:01Speaker 2: I believe, so, yeah, I believe so yeah.
- 44:03Speaker 1: So all right, so I've got three. Well one we've
- 44:07Speaker 1: already said. Yeah, but my favorite fucking line the entire movie.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Number one line is obviously from Otis and he's like, boy,
- 44:14Speaker 1: the next word out of your mouth, bet'll be some
- 44:16Speaker 1: fucking brilliant Mark Twain. Shit, he is definitely getting car
- 44:18Speaker 1: or getting Chillen on your tombstone.
- 44:20Speaker 2: That's laugh.
- 44:23Speaker 1: At that.
- 44:24Speaker 2: But see he said that his delivery was more comical
- 44:26Speaker 2: with that versus the the double line, so it was
- 44:29Speaker 2: still good, but like the segue between delivering a great
- 44:33Speaker 2: line comical and delivering a great line to scare the
- 44:35Speaker 2: ship out of you. Yeah, within ten minutes is like whoa.
- 44:38Speaker 1: Yeah, because he does a lot of funny just funny
- 44:41Speaker 1: fucking line I.
- 44:42Speaker 2: Just spilled mostly in general, like, yeah, his in any movie,
- 44:45Speaker 2: he's got these like really like oh crazy lines and
- 44:47Speaker 2: other then other times you're like, holy shit, did you
- 44:50Speaker 2: like where'd that come from?
- 44:51Speaker 1: Where did that come from?
- 44:52Speaker 2: Like?
- 44:52Speaker 1: Bro, holy shit. And then my other favorite one was
- 44:55Speaker 1: Captain Spaulding with the kid in the car and he's like,
- 44:59Speaker 1: don't you like, aren't we fucking funny? And the kid's
- 45:02Speaker 1: like I don't know. And then Captain Bodney looks at
- 45:04Speaker 1: him and he's like, I'm gonna come back for you
- 45:06Speaker 1: and your mama, and if you don't have an answer
- 45:07Speaker 1: for me, I'm gonna kill you and your whole fucking family.
- 45:09Speaker 1: And I was just like Jesus Christ and he's like
- 45:13Speaker 1: he's crazy. He pulls off in their card. I'm just
- 45:16Speaker 1: like Jesus Christy, you just told a kid he's you're
- 45:18Speaker 1: gonna kill this whole family.
- 45:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
- 45:22Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that kid needs immedia therapy after that. But yeah,
- 45:26Speaker 1: that was so hard to narrow down. And like I said,
- 45:28Speaker 1: I had three lines because I couldn't narrow it down.
- 45:31Speaker 1: Do we have a favorite character? Oh, otis otis hands down,
- 45:35Speaker 1: hands down, all fucking day. Least favorite character, least favorite character.
- 45:41Speaker 1: I gotta go, baby, I'm sorry. I just I don't know, man,
- 45:44Speaker 1: I don't know. I like Sherry Moon Zombie and Halloween.
- 45:47Speaker 1: It's probably because she's only in about thirty minutes.
- 45:50Speaker 2: I don't mind Cherry Woon Zombie unless she's over the top.
- 45:53Speaker 2: She wasn't the Flight from Hell.
- 45:54Speaker 1: I don't mind her in this, But the second she
- 45:56Speaker 1: started doing the Chinese Japanese dirty I was like.
- 46:00Speaker 2: Okay, that part was annoying, but but she was my
- 46:01Speaker 2: least favorite character.
- 46:04Speaker 1: You don't have to have one, Like, if you don't
- 46:05Speaker 1: have one, that I'm.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Just thinking real quickly. If I don't think I do.
- 46:10Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have one. That's fine.
- 46:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because because all the other characters I
- 46:12Speaker 2: would say lasted maybe five ten minutes, so that doesn't count.
- 46:15Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people don't make it in this movie,
- 46:17Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people there was actually.
- 46:19Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of said Haig in this
- 46:21Speaker 2: I didn't actually care for really, I liked so I
- 46:25Speaker 2: liked him in and obviously. I don't know why. It's
- 46:29Speaker 2: just my rewatching it this time. It's just in my head.
- 46:32Speaker 2: I'm like, I wouldn't even care, Like, I obviously he's
- 46:34Speaker 2: in it, but I'm like, I don't really care if
- 46:36Speaker 2: he's in there or not, Like his dynamic is just
- 46:39Speaker 2: to me. I was just like, just he's the dad.
- 46:41Speaker 2: It's just it's just there was a lot of good lines,
- 46:43Speaker 2: but a lot of it. I'm just like, I don't
- 46:45Speaker 2: care that he was in this really yeah weird, right, So.
- 46:50Speaker 1: I just didn't Was it the dialogue? Was it how
- 46:53Speaker 1: he treated women?
- 46:54Speaker 2: Well? I think it was the dialogue, because I mean
- 46:56Speaker 2: he treated women the same way and yeah.
- 46:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, which is just kind of like objects.
- 47:01Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that's their character. I think it was
- 47:03Speaker 2: just some of his dialogue or just it just didn't
- 47:06Speaker 2: seem like he had much to do in this movie
- 47:08Speaker 2: at all until like the end.
- 47:10Speaker 1: And I feel like, yeah, I mean, and I'm not
- 47:12Speaker 1: saying it's my.
- 47:12Speaker 2: Least fair character because I just feel like, more like
- 47:14Speaker 2: a wasted character in this movie.
- 47:16Speaker 1: He really didn't get involved. He was more of a
- 47:18Speaker 1: side character for them, like.
- 47:20Speaker 2: For they called, they called him for help, and he showed.
- 47:22Speaker 1: Up, but like, but it was like an hour and
- 47:24Speaker 1: ten minutes into the movie before they actually you know,
- 47:28Speaker 1: I noticed that too. I was like, he's kind of
- 47:30Speaker 1: a weird sign character until they link up. It takes
- 47:32Speaker 1: a while for him to link out.
- 47:34Speaker 2: And if anything, he's only really relevant because of where
- 47:38Speaker 2: they go at the end. Other than that, he really
- 47:40Speaker 2: doesn't have a purpose in this movie because we already
- 47:42Speaker 2: established the religios. So not saying least favorite character, I
- 47:47Speaker 2: just don't think.
- 47:49Speaker 1: I'm kind of underutilized.
- 47:50Speaker 2: I think he was underutilized and that made him my
- 47:52Speaker 2: least favorite in this because you know, he was great.
- 47:56Speaker 2: You know, he was great in the first one, in
- 48:00Speaker 2: the two minutes sadly, but the two minutes or whatever
- 48:03Speaker 2: he was in Three.
- 48:04Speaker 1: From Hell, Yeah, because he's unfortunately passed away.
- 48:06Speaker 2: Yeah, the few minutes he was in Three from Hell,
- 48:10Speaker 2: I fucking loved him. And because he was playing he
- 48:12Speaker 2: was Loony Tunes, so crazy he was.
- 48:14Speaker 1: I loved it. He was just like laughing and going crazy.
- 48:17Speaker 2: I just think because he was underutilized in this movie,
- 48:20Speaker 2: I didn't care much for him to be in the movie.
- 48:22Speaker 1: That's fair.
- 48:23Speaker 2: It's like in respect, so I I loved all the characters.
- 48:26Speaker 2: I just think since he was underutilized, he's my least
- 48:28Speaker 2: favorite because of that.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Yeah, not because of who he is or yeah, because
- 48:32Speaker 1: he's got great lines and he's hilarious. Tooty fucking Fruity
- 48:35Speaker 1: is like that. It's such a great I.
- 48:36Speaker 2: Just think, like we we already knew him. And then
- 48:38Speaker 2: you know, they're like, Dad, we need your help, and
- 48:40Speaker 2: I'm like okay, and then like forty minutes later, he
- 48:42Speaker 2: shows up just yeah, just to be like, hey, we're
- 48:44Speaker 2: going here.
- 48:45Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, no, that's fair. I did notice that too,
- 48:49Speaker 1: like weirdly enough, I guess I just never really, I
- 48:52Speaker 1: don't know, paid attention to it, but on this watch
- 48:54Speaker 1: throw I was like, yeah, he really doesn't link up
- 48:57Speaker 1: until so much later in the.
- 48:58Speaker 2: Movie, and then oh why And then all of a
- 49:00Speaker 2: sudden he's just there and then they're like, we have
- 49:02Speaker 2: to go here. I'm like okay, but like and they
- 49:05Speaker 2: do show him like traveling to where he had to go,
- 49:07Speaker 2: but like it made it seem like he wasn't that
- 49:09Speaker 2: far from the phone call, right, So I'm like, why
- 49:11Speaker 2: is it taking him half the fucking movie? I mean, yeah,
- 49:13Speaker 2: he had to change cars, but I still don't understand,
- 49:14Speaker 2: like half the movie's over and he's in it for
- 49:16Speaker 2: like the third act, like he's in cameo first act
- 49:20Speaker 2: and then he's in the third act. I'm like, oh, okay,
- 49:22Speaker 2: you're like, oh yeah, all right, it's just it's just
- 49:24Speaker 2: a feel right for me.
- 49:25Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's fair. All right. Let me give
- 49:28Speaker 1: you the brief synopsis here, and we've got like, no,
- 49:32Speaker 1: not a lot, this is. This is good though, like
- 49:34Speaker 1: I wanted to, I want to start moving towards like
- 49:37Speaker 1: talking more about the movie than like going just full
- 49:40Speaker 1: like yeah, balls deep review, Like, so what we've been
- 49:43Speaker 1: doing with this? Yeah, so I think we're doing I
- 49:45Speaker 1: think we're working in the right direction here. But let
- 49:47Speaker 1: me give you the quick IMDb synopsis here, so or
- 49:50Speaker 1: the Little Summer here. So the murder is back withs
- 49:53Speaker 1: Firefly family take to the road to escape the vengeful
- 49:55Speaker 1: sheriff Wya Deell, who is not afraid of being as
- 49:58Speaker 1: ruthless as his target, which is a very interesting explanation.
- 50:02Speaker 1: So I really like how this movie starts off, and
- 50:04Speaker 1: then I'll kick it over to you here in just
- 50:05Speaker 1: a second. It's almost very like Texas chainsaw massacre esque
- 50:09Speaker 1: because you have a narrator and the narrator says, this
- 50:13Speaker 1: is the text on screen, it says. On May eighteenth,
- 50:16Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, Sheriff John Quincy Wydell, along with local
- 50:19Speaker 1: authorities in Ruggsville County, led a search and destroy quote
- 50:23Speaker 1: unquote mission on a decaying farmhouse. Inside the house, police
- 50:27Speaker 1: discovered a collection of diaries and scrapbooks detailing the accounts
- 50:30Speaker 1: of more than seventy five murders. The family responsible for
- 50:34Speaker 1: those brutal murders was known for sorry brutal murders, was
- 50:38Speaker 1: forever to be known as the Devil's Rejects. And you
- 50:41Speaker 1: get likemontaged of just all these newspaper clippings and just
- 50:45Speaker 1: dead bodies and fucking naked women and all this crazy shit,
- 50:48Speaker 1: and then we get into the movie after that. So
- 50:51Speaker 1: I really like that opening because it lays all the
- 50:53Speaker 1: facts out, you know what you're getting into. And the
- 50:56Speaker 1: first fucking opening scene is like, it's like a it's you.
- 50:59Speaker 1: That's like a third act in the movie.
- 51:01Speaker 2: But yeah, but that was the first but.
- 51:02Speaker 1: That was that was the opening scene. So they really
- 51:05Speaker 1: lead off with the fucking bang. So I'll let you
- 51:07Speaker 1: talk about it and then we'll just kind of risk back.
- 51:09Speaker 2: So after after you know the the what what also
- 51:12Speaker 2: just said with with the dialogue on screen and narrator,
- 51:15Speaker 2: you see the house that has mentioned, you know, the
- 51:19Speaker 2: firefight fighting and they're sleeping in the house, like they
- 51:21Speaker 2: go a little like just camera work the show inside
- 51:23Speaker 2: the house what they're doing, but you also see like
- 51:25Speaker 2: cops like surrounding it, and then you know they get
- 51:27Speaker 2: out through their whole spiel like ah, well, you know
- 51:30Speaker 2: they say what they're saying, and everybody in house us
- 51:32Speaker 2: freaking the fuck out because there you're getting away from
- 51:35Speaker 2: the cops, the cops.
- 51:35Speaker 1: Are there, and then the cops have now found them, yes,
- 51:39Speaker 1: like they've been found.
- 51:41Speaker 2: Like like the cops are shooting at the house, the
- 51:43Speaker 2: firefire the firefly firefly families, they're shooting at the cops,
- 51:48Speaker 2: and there's just like, honestly, it's just an amazing It's
- 51:52Speaker 2: like when you watch this movie, it's like if you
- 51:54Speaker 2: feel like, you know, you start the movie, you go
- 51:55Speaker 2: to the bathroom, come back, and you feel like you
- 51:56Speaker 2: missed half the movie because like what the fuck is
- 51:58Speaker 2: the shoot at the beginning of the movie, right, Yeah,
- 52:00Speaker 2: But that's how it starts. Like also said third act
- 52:03Speaker 2: type of stuff, but like this was the first act.
- 52:05Speaker 1: And it's really cool too because like they count down
- 52:07Speaker 1: from like I think five, and the camera will freeze.
- 52:11Speaker 1: It's like five camera freeze frames, four camera freeze frames,
- 52:14Speaker 1: Like it's a really cool countdown.
- 52:15Speaker 2: Then it's like one, and it's just it's just it's
- 52:18Speaker 2: just like unapologetic chaos goes on for a little bit.
- 52:23Speaker 2: And the way and the way he uh, the way
- 52:25Speaker 2: Rob Zombi shot this movie was very grind housey, gritty,
- 52:29Speaker 2: like basically this the the plot of this Like like
- 52:32Speaker 2: when you watch this movie, you feel like the way
- 52:36Speaker 2: the story goes as gritty and like detailed as this
- 52:39Speaker 2: is is how the movie is. It's filmed very gritty
- 52:42Speaker 2: and and and graenny, which a lot of times granny
- 52:45Speaker 2: is not good. But the way this movie is filmed,
- 52:46Speaker 2: because it's a lot of desert outside area, it it
- 52:50Speaker 2: gives you that pulpy feel and it's beautiful.
- 52:53Speaker 1: It's beautiful, it's gorgeous. It's way good way And.
- 52:56Speaker 2: I think that's that's one of the reasons why I
- 52:58Speaker 2: love this movie so much. Like, out of all of
- 53:01Speaker 2: this this is one of my favorites because of that.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Like it's it's it's gritty, it feels real. I mean, okay,
- 53:08Speaker 2: loosely used the word real because obviously, like I mean
- 53:11Speaker 2: a lot of the dialogue like and stuff. You're like
- 53:13Speaker 2: watching it like there's no way, but like the way
- 53:14Speaker 2: it's filmed and the way you feel washing, it just
- 53:17Speaker 2: feels fucking real for that time and and and for
- 53:21Speaker 2: for the crime that has been done. It does. He doesn't.
- 53:23Speaker 2: He's another one that just doesn't like sugarcoat or wire
- 53:26Speaker 2: down any of his ship as much as possible.
- 53:28Speaker 1: Yeah, he does not stray away from any sort of
- 53:30Speaker 1: violence or gratuitous like sexuality.
- 53:33Speaker 2: Any of that, no matter. If it's all there, it's
- 53:35Speaker 2: all there.
- 53:35Speaker 1: It's all that.
- 53:36Speaker 2: Like he puts it in there and he just films it.
- 53:38Speaker 2: And I mean, yeah, if he has to make some cuts,
- 53:40Speaker 2: he makes some cuts. Okay, it happens, but like he's
- 53:43Speaker 2: still gonna keep keep it going like uh, for this one.
- 53:47Speaker 2: The whole reason why this movie is underrated is because
- 53:49Speaker 2: of the uh. The only reason what he had to
- 53:52Speaker 2: do was he had to cut down that hotel scene
- 53:54Speaker 2: that we were talking about earlier. And the whole reason
- 53:56Speaker 2: why and the whole reason why it's underrated is because
- 53:58Speaker 2: of that by by like one or two minutes. But
- 54:00Speaker 2: still that one or two minutes makes makes all the difference.
- 54:03Speaker 1: Makes your break a movie right there for NC seventeen rating.
- 54:06Speaker 2: Yeah, and this movie definitely like but but it's crazy
- 54:09Speaker 2: to think when you watch this movie, like just take
- 54:10Speaker 2: the whole Like honestly, even if you took the whole
- 54:12Speaker 2: hotel scene out, just watching what what conspires, you're like,
- 54:16Speaker 2: this still got raded art. But the only reason why
- 54:18Speaker 2: it was NC saving because of this reason, Like, it's
- 54:19Speaker 2: still absolutely bonkers.
- 54:20Speaker 1: That that happened, because mainly for me too, is there's
- 54:25Speaker 1: so much like frontal female nudity.
- 54:27Speaker 2: That's what cut the unrated version of this movie, which
- 54:32Speaker 2: is what we both watched, is the they put in
- 54:35Speaker 2: that that full frontal.
- 54:37Speaker 1: Well, because i mean even before that, the opening shot
- 54:39Speaker 1: is like full frontal lady, and you're.
- 54:41Speaker 2: See that's so so I mean, I'm not you know
- 54:44Speaker 2: whatever that can get away with a little bit more
- 54:46Speaker 2: because it's not sexualized or anything.
- 54:48Speaker 1: It is on screen, so it's a matter of being
- 54:50Speaker 1: sexualized or.
- 54:52Speaker 2: Like for a like for instance, like for instance, I'm
- 54:56Speaker 2: not gonna say it, but like for the N word
- 54:59Speaker 2: or or a derogator term towards anybody, you can get
- 55:02Speaker 2: away with it. Even in TV. You can get away
- 55:04Speaker 2: with it if it's not like solely like hard directed
- 55:08Speaker 2: that you like, if I'm over here, like if I
- 55:09Speaker 2: call you'r a fucking cunt or I'm like this cut
- 55:12Speaker 2: over here, those are two different Those are two different
- 55:14Speaker 2: types of ratings. Because I'm not hard at you. I'm
- 55:18Speaker 2: saying I'm just saying something like that's fine. But if
- 55:22Speaker 2: I'm like, you're acting like a fucking cunt, like that
- 55:24Speaker 2: is a difference between radar and S seventeen with like
- 55:28Speaker 2: N word.
- 55:28Speaker 1: Or nud so it's like directional words, you know what
- 55:30Speaker 1: I mean. Like, it's like it's like how you direct
- 55:32Speaker 1: the words.
- 55:33Speaker 2: Like for instance, also with a with a PG thirteen
- 55:35Speaker 2: ife you says brief strong language or some strong language
- 55:37Speaker 2: and hear the F word two to three times. Maybe yeah,
- 55:39Speaker 2: if it's not sexual, it's okay to be right. So
- 55:43Speaker 2: if you say this fucking guy is you can say that.
- 55:45Speaker 2: But if you're like I'm about to fuck you, that's
- 55:47Speaker 2: the difference between PG thirteen and R rating.
- 55:49Speaker 1: You can be like, oh, we're fucked or like fuck
- 55:52Speaker 1: you is different. Yeah. So in this case, jus crazy.
- 55:57Speaker 2: Things have changed since this came out No. Five, but
- 55:59Speaker 2: that oh my god. Yeah, but that's how that makes
- 56:02Speaker 2: seventeen can't go which which so in the uh in
- 56:07Speaker 2: the hotel scene with full frontal, you literally see this
- 56:11Speaker 2: girl being verbally and emotionally tortured.
- 56:15Speaker 1: Yeah she's and she's full naked and.
- 56:17Speaker 2: You see everything like clear as day. So but that's
- 56:21Speaker 2: more sexualized. Sexual makes it because what he Otis does
- 56:24Speaker 2: with the gun with her and how he's talking to her,
- 56:26Speaker 2: that's sexualized versus just dragging a nude woman on the
- 56:28Speaker 2: ground is fine.
- 56:29Speaker 1: Interesting, it's crazy. Well, I just I didn't think about that.
- 56:34Speaker 1: I just I'm thinking full frontal, like the full frontal
- 56:37Speaker 1: is full frontal. But it makes sense how one is sexualized.
- 56:40Speaker 1: One is just it's just it's a dead body. That's crazy.
- 56:44Speaker 1: So that's the difference in n C seventeen, at.
- 56:47Speaker 2: Least in that case. In this case, now I couldn't
- 56:50Speaker 2: tell you change so much, but like back that is
- 56:53Speaker 2: exactular early two thousand stuff. That's kind of where like
- 56:55Speaker 2: they make it or break it, because because when you
- 56:57Speaker 2: look like rated and underrated, and you're like, there's only
- 56:59Speaker 2: like an of difference. What's that difference? Nine times out
- 57:02Speaker 2: of ten it's one is a little bit too strong
- 57:04Speaker 2: for theatrical really, no matter if it's the strong language.
- 57:08Speaker 2: That's why a lot of times if underrated, just you
- 57:10Speaker 2: hear a little bit more language in there because of
- 57:12Speaker 2: stuff like that.
- 57:13Speaker 1: So it's well, that actually makes sense because saw three
- 57:17Speaker 1: that that naked lady, who's who's strung up with the
- 57:20Speaker 1: with all the one.
- 57:20Speaker 2: That was finally because it wasn't exactly that is crazy.
- 57:26Speaker 1: I had no idea.
- 57:27Speaker 2: Yep.
- 57:27Speaker 1: I mean it made like it makes sense for the ratings,
- 57:29Speaker 1: I get it, but I just I guess I never
- 57:31Speaker 1: processed the different levels.
- 57:33Speaker 2: Like also the remake of Friday of the Thirteen that
- 57:37Speaker 2: end sex scene is extended, and and law it's extended
- 57:41Speaker 2: in the underrated the killer cut. Yeah, it's about that's
- 57:44Speaker 2: about it. It's about ninety seconds longer geez. And if
- 57:47Speaker 2: you look at the back of your it's funny. If
- 57:49Speaker 2: you look at the back of the case, it actually
- 57:51Speaker 2: says rated R rated edition and rated R underrated. I
- 57:53Speaker 2: mean they're both rated R, but you see one's red
- 57:56Speaker 2: R for nudity, and one's not one actually has the
- 57:59Speaker 2: the nudity added. That's the final cut.
- 58:02Speaker 1: That's the killer cut.
- 58:03Speaker 2: Yeah, the killer cut has like so there's strong sexuality
- 58:06Speaker 2: in the Raddar cut. They're strong sexual sexuality and nudity
- 58:10Speaker 2: in the killer cut.
- 58:11Speaker 1: Wow.
- 58:12Speaker 2: So literally they just added that because that's there's more
- 58:14Speaker 2: duty grief. Yep, I mean, but that's how it was
- 58:17Speaker 2: that right now, I couldn't tell you what the fuck.
- 58:19Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a little different.
- 58:21Speaker 2: Now.
- 58:22Speaker 1: Let's go back to this movie here though, because after
- 58:24Speaker 1: the whole shootout here we the only people that get
- 58:27Speaker 1: away from all this madness is Otis and Baby and
- 58:29Speaker 1: they're running through this like secret Yeah. Yeah, they're running
- 58:32Speaker 1: through like the this this Marshy Woods area, and they
- 58:35Speaker 1: eventually common deer vehicle from a lady. They they killed
- 58:38Speaker 1: the fuck out of her, and then they drive off
- 58:41Speaker 1: you know, into the not to the night, into the
- 58:42Speaker 1: daytime or whatever. So they're the only people. Yeah, they're
- 58:45Speaker 1: the only people that escape it, which is crazy because
- 58:48Speaker 1: you know, Mama Mama Fireflag gets captured and pretty much
- 58:52Speaker 1: everyone else that's there besides tiny Shot are taken in.
- 58:57Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's a pretty it's a pretty explode opening. Honestly,
- 59:01Speaker 1: it's it's very I really like, it's great, very good.
- 59:05Speaker 1: You want to keep going?
- 59:07Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, So obviously they you know, escape and uh
- 59:14Speaker 2: then I guess I don't quite remember. But the next
- 59:17Speaker 2: scene is at the hotel right with with the band
- 59:19Speaker 2: members missing.
- 59:20Speaker 1: The next scene, so it's Captain Spaulding and he's having
- 59:23Speaker 1: like that Oh yeah, yeah, he's having like.
- 59:24Speaker 2: Wild yes, like and there you know, the dialogue is
- 59:29Speaker 2: just normal like nasty dialogue whatever. But then he wakes
- 59:32Speaker 2: up because it's all dreaming. It's so funny.
- 59:37Speaker 1: The behemoth of a woman. She's just massive.
- 59:40Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying it's it's it's a very hot
- 59:42Speaker 2: scene to a to a non hot scene, but like.
- 59:44Speaker 1: No, it's i'd say it's I'd say it's the same.
- 59:47Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but one is is more like wet dream
- 59:51Speaker 2: of the others like a fuck reality.
- 59:53Speaker 1: Like it's son of a bitch because he's like, goddamn it, woman,
- 59:55Speaker 1: didn't I give you enough last night?
- 59:57Speaker 2: My dick is still sore. He's like, yeah, okay, so
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: that was funny.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: That was funny. He was super funny in that scene.
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: But yeah, so he's still obviously his same old self
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: from House of a Thousand Corpses. He's got the little
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: TV spot, a little commercial going on that gets interrupted
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: by the whole you know, invasion of the Firefly residence.
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: So he's like, what the fuck? And that's how you
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: know that. Okay, Now this is how they're gonna get
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: connected because you know, his family's in trouble and yeah
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. Then that's when it goes into
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: why Dell interviewing uh fire mother Firefly Yeah, and they
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: get all weird, yeah and crazy.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: There's a lot of like I want to say crazy scenes,
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: but a lot of like pull the tone of this.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: There's a lot of total changes in this movie.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: And it's crazy because it goes from kind of being
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: like there's some really truly funny moments with Bill Moseley
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: saying the most wacky, wild shit, and then it goes
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: fucking hard left turn into this deep dark corner and
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: you're like ooh.
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: And then you got some like weird like psycho sexual
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: things going on, and then you have this cringe really
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: like like you know, sex talk and weird stuff like
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: the I think there's like four or five different total
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: changes in this entire movie.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: Yeah, between from from beginning to end. Yeah, because it
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: starts with like this explosive thing. You're like cool, and
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: then you're like, it's like dune to now damn to damn,
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: and then you're like all.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: Right, and then all of a sudden you go to
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: that whacky crazy uh sex stream, sex.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Stream, and then it goes from that, and then it
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: goes to reality and then he's just like, holy shit,
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: what is actually going on in this movie? But then
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: after all this craziness, because essentially Wydell is trying to
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: get information out of Mother Firefly, like where the fuck
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: are otis and baby, like we need to find them,
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: we need to bring them in.
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: And he's got a hard vendetta for them because in
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: h House of a Thousand Corpses they killed his brother
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: who was who was a cop as well, So he's
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: got a heart on for them for personal reasons. And
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: you can tell he definitely takes a personal vendetta out
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: of the Firefly family.
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense too. And there's also that
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: really cool scene that you pointed out when we were
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: watching about how he has that kind of thing inside.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: His head that division where he's talking to kind of.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of reminds you of what has happened in
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: the previous movie, because they're not you know, there are
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: they're sequels, they are, but they're not like, they're not
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: really necessarily direct anything.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: If anything, Devil's Rejects and Three from Hell are direct. Yeah,
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: those are direct, but how Some Thousand Corpses is kind
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: of its own. It's more just an introduction to the family.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: It's more of an introduction to the family. And I'd
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: say Devil's Rejects is like a spiritual successor to the
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: first one. Yes, so it's not real because you have
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: a house of a Thousand Corpses, Devil's Rejects, and then
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: Three from Hell. It's like, that's not even how you
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: do a trilogy, you know what I mean, Like, that's
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: not how you do it.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: That's why they call it the Firefly trilogy because it's
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: about the family.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: That makes sense, and we're not yeah, we're not talking
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: about Firefly this show. That's a whole other thing. Oh yeah,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: but yeah, So you have all this ship going down
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: and then meanwhile at this ranch, Ken gets involved. His
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: name is Charlie Altamont, and he runs Charlie's Frontier Fun Town,
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: which it's a brothel. It's a brothel.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: You go there to get laid, and it's not a
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: very well well like like what girls.
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: There's a couple of girls there. It's in the middle
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: of the desert. You know, everything in this movie is
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: just run down. It's gritty, it's just raw. But it's
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: also just rob zombies.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: Like.
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: What what do you call it?
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: His? Uh?
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: Like m o, you know what I mean.
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: It's what he does.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: It's what he does. And then of course we have
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Michael Berryman too. That is his name is Cleveon or
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: Cleven and he's Charlie's assistant, So he's Ken Forret's assistant.
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: You got two awesome other guys that have been in
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: a lot of horror movies. Michael Berryman obviously most famous
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: for the original Hills Have Eyes. Ken Foray, I'd probably
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: say most famously maybe for From Beyond Maybe maybe maybe,
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: depends on who you are and what you watch, but
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: that's where I know him from, as well as many
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: other movies. But that's that's the one I remember for
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: him from the most. So I can't remember why they
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: call him. They're going they're calling him to go hide out.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: Balding calls him because they're friends, because their friends. After
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: they get after, he gets a call from Otis saying
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: that they're in the basketball they need help. So yeah,
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: so that's right. So yeah, so and and then and
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: then that's after that, that's when it shows. Uh, that's
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: when you see Spalding trying to travel wherever he needs
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: to go. He's like, go, tells Otis to go to
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: the motel and blah blah blah because that's their media spot,
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: I suppose. And then Otis and Baby traveled to that motel.
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we had that whole scene where they
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: they they they uh integrate themselves with the band members
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: and it just goes down from there. We're not going
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: to get into graphic detail. Done that before with other movies,
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: and I've kind of regretted it.
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: So let's just I mean, throughout this they've kind of
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: like done some pieces.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: Yeah, we're tiptoeing around this because it's very graphic.
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: Yeah, so so you know this scenem's all done, that
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: seems all done, and once On's that's done, you know,
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: Spalding finally gets there and they all leave to go
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: to uh, the.
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: Brothel, Charlie's Uh, Charlie's Fun Charlie's Frontier Fun Town. Yes,
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: say that's six times fast.
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: So and and you know, one of my favorite scenes
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: in this is actually like the two three minute dialogue
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: that they have as like you can clearly tell their family,
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: and then the truck scene when Otis is driving, and
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: then you got Baby and and uh Spalding, they're all
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: they're all driving. But like this scene definitely spells out
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: the functional family. But you can clearly tell their family
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: by like the way they talk to each other and everything.
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's a heart warming scene because
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: it definitely isn't for this movie. It is for this movie.
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: It's heartwarming.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: It's heartwarming for them.
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: For them, it's all, yeah, it's for us. It's a
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: dysfunctional heart warming But like like it wasn't you didn't
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: need it. It was Honestly, it was a filler scene.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: But it was fucking fruity, man.
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: But yes, like fucking fruity, Like it's so good.
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: It's so funny because yeah, you see baby, she points
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: out that there's like an ice cream stand up the
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: road like ten miles, like fruity you.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: Can go some ice cream ten miles you're like so
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: far away.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: And Otis is like, there's no fucking ice cream in
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: your fucking future ice cream, Like yeah, Otis has no
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: ice cream. And then she like baby like bops the
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: ice cream on his nose and he's like, yeah, fuck you.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: And I love Otises and babies like dynamic.
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: Because you have the great brother and sister done it.
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: They have a great brother sister dynamic because throughout the
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: whole movie, one of them will be like fuck you
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: and then the other will be like fuck you. So
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: it's like fuck you, fuck you. But then they just
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: do the thing they yeah, then they just do with
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: what they're what they're out to do, so the whole
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: dynamic is great. And then throwing Captain's fallowing into the mix,
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: you know, sitting hey, that whole little car ride is
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: like one of my favorite moments in the whole movie
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: just cause yeah, hope, but for them, it's not wholesome,
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: but it is a dysfunctional little family moment that is
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: just it kind of like warms your heart, you know
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: what I.
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: Mean, because because also like they don't have a lot
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: of screen time together in the.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: First one, they don't, so, so this is the real
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: This is the first.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: Time you see them together, like like I guess as
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: a family. Yeah, quote unquote, so so it was kind
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: of like a cool little like scene.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: Yeah, it was super cool. And then after they get
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: the two d fucking fruity they end up at Charlie's
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: fun Tier Frontier and then that's shortly after what's with
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: the chicken fucking scene? Why are they? Why are they there?
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: I can't remember?
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: And Foray they go they love the chickens there, like
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: he thinks he had the best like chicken.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: Oh, so he's okay, you'll be quite honest that.
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: The entire scene is worthless. And I think it's stupid
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: that it's.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: Only there because then Wydell shows up.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: That's the only reason, which is unfortunate because for four
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: minutes before that, you're just like, why are they talking
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: about fucking chickens? And when I say fucking chickens, I
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: mean literally fucking not fucking chickens, but they're fucking chickens.
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: They have a conversation of being a chicken.
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, not not a fucking chicken like fuck.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: Rayinar to fuck. We're going full circulary boys.
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: Full fucking stork a full chicken here, Oh my god.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: But yeah, so that force, that four minute seat was
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: unnecessary until like the end of that scene, which cool,
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: but like you could have cut the seed. You didn't
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: have to have a whole dialogue above chickens.
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: Yeah you really didn't. Why And then it's at this
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: point where Wydell is telling Charlie's character that, hey, you
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: better keep them there until I come around. And that's
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: where we'll leave it, because now you have you know,
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: the fire conflict, yeah conflict. You give the fireflies thinking
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: they're okay and they're at the safe haven and now
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: Ken Foray is getting pushed by Wydell to keep them
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: there so that the way they can come grab them
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: and throw them in jail. So it's like this whole
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: point of contention and you're like, uh, what's gonna happen? Yeah,
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: because is he gonna live up? You know, is he
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: gonna do it or is he not gonna do it?
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: And that's when the third act starts.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: Yeah, there's about thirty minutes left at that point, and
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: then the ending is just this, oh my god, but
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: it makes you wonder how the fucking three from Hell
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: even was a thing, and I love how they explained it,
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: and Three from Hell they're like, well, you know, like
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: and they.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: Probably only explained it that way because they did a sequel. Yeah,
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: they would have been fine with it not being a sequel,
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: but like.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: We didn't need it, but we didn't need it.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: But Three from Hell was really good. I thought I
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: gave I gave.
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: Three from Hell four stars because I thought it was
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: because I liked it better than House of a Thousand Corpses.
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: But I didn't like it as much as Devil's.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: Rea's my favorite of the trilogy. Yes, and it's my
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: favorite movie of lombies.
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: And honestly one of my favorite movies. Like a horror movie, sorry,
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: horror movies. Not not any movie, but like horror movies
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: of all time. I know, I'm obviously fucked in the head.
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: It's way good.
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: That's way good.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: So yeah, that is the Devil's Rejects. Just go buy it, man,
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: just fucking if you haven't seen it and you want
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: to see it, you know you like Rob Zombie even
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: if you don't.
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: And honestly, besides Halloween remake the first one, this is
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: his best movie to date.
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, and I think that's I think that's
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: true with the ratings on IMDb as well, because this
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: one has like a six to eight, which is that's
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: pretty high for.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: Six eight, I think, uh, I think, you know, and
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: it goes lower. I mean, obviously House Thousand Corpses is
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: the lowest rated out of the three.
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: I believe Lords of Salem is like a five to one.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: The three is the trilogy. Oh sorry, I I met
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: the Fire trilogy. I believe I believe it's the lowest
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: rated out of the three. At least.
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: House of a Thousand Corpses on IMDb is a six
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: point zero. Okay, Devil's Reach X six point eight and
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: then three from Hell is five point five three from Hell.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: So so it's so it's Devil's House of a thousand
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: and then three from Hell. Oh yeah, yeah, it's not
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: how I would rate it, but you know, i.
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: dB is different, so people are different.
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: It's fine. So, uh, let's get to some trip Oh
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't actually watch all the way
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: through the credits. That's my bat Is there a mid
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: or post credit? Okay?
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: Cool, No, it's it's just it's just all right.
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: Let's get through some trivia here and I didn't include
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: Goofs because I didn't want to ruin this movie for
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: me because it's one of my favorites. So yes, you
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: can go read the goofs if you'd like, and you
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: can spoil them to me in an email or whatever.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: Email just text you.
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: No, not you people, the people that are listening, Oh,
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: i'd like, why would I email you? The seventeen people
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: that listen to this podcast, So trivia. So at around
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: forty six minutes, the Eye and the Devil, I am
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: here to do the Devil's work is a slightly altered
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: version of the quote spoken by Manson family member Charles
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: tex Watson during the infamous Tate murders. It makes sense
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: I did that twice apparently. Romby Rob Zombie stated in
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: an interview that up until thirty one, twenty sixteen, The
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: Devil's Rejects was probably the hardest film of his to
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: cut down in order to understand I understand that as well.
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: Chris Jericho audition for the role of Rondo, but was
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: deemed too pretty for the part, so Dandy Tray was
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: cast instead because like, okay, he's pretty in a different way. Yeah, okay,
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: he's got a pretty soul. Okay, and he's also scares
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: he's very rugged and masculine.
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, I thought did a great Yeah. Uh.
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: This is the final film of Matthew McRory. He's he
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: plays tiny. He unfortunately died about a month after its release,
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: which is very sad. Bill Moseley actually shaved his head
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: for this film so the lace wig would fit properly.
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: So that's awesome fucking dedication. The Firefly ranch was also
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: used in the pilot episode of Supernatural two thousand and five.
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: That was that was the interesting thing. I thought you'd
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: like there. The blue bands plates spell a k u,
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: which means evil in Japanese. Thought that was fun. All
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: the scenes were filmed within a block of each other,
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: and Spaulding's house was not altered in any way. They
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: found it as is, only adding household items as if
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: lived in and that since.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: They weren't so far away like like that's you know,
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: that's probably where they a lot of time with budget. Yeah,
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: they didn't have to travel very far.
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: This film takes place on May eighteenth, nineteen seventy eight,
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: and it only took thirty days to film in the hot,
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: hot California.
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: Sun Ship only a month of film.
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: This only a month. That's it.
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: I mean, thinking about it that, I think that honestly,
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: to me, I feel like the longest scene the film
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: would have been the hotel scene because of the uncomfortability
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: of it all. Yeah, other than that, everything seemed pretty
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: like fluid and just just to go.
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: You have Bill Moseley, who's just probably just he's probably.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the dialogue between between.
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: Them, yeah, between a Spalding and Mosley. Yeah, I can't.
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: Imagine Rob's Onbie just writing down Baby says fuck you.
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: Otis also says fuck you three times over. Like I
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: can't imagine the script. I mean he could have he
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: could have people write scripts, definitely. I mean Tarantino writes
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: literally a fucking novel every time he writes a movie, right,
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: so like he could have wrote that.
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: But like, I just feel like that was just like
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: I feel like they just, yeah, they just like riffed
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: off each other. Could So this has a six point
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: eight out of ten on i MDB, three point four
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: out of five on Letterbox. This has a solid solid
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: four point five out of five For me. Same, It's
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: a fucking masterpiece.
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: Great.
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: I love this movie. It is it is way good
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: and that is the Devil's Rejects from two thousand and five.
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: Buy it, rent it, fucking watch it for free on Voodoo.
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: Do whatever you have to do to see this movie
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: if you have not, because it is that good. So
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- 1:14:46Speaker 1: Oh I know, I don't know. Maybe so uh till
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- 1:15:00Speaker 2: Can it. Yeah,