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The Rita Panahi Show | 8 July · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On Scarleus Australia. Davis is the Rita Panahe Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahe Show. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Borrow filling in all week for Rita. Here's what's
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  Speaker 2: coming up tonight. Labor formalizes its support for Welcome to
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  Speaker 2: Country ceremonies in response to the rise of One Nation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that'll show them. The panel will be here to discuss
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  Speaker 2: that and all the day's top headlines. Plus Naja Farage
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  Speaker 2: has triggered a by election by resigning from his own
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  Speaker 2: parliamentary seat. Andrew Eboard will bring me all the details
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  Speaker 2: and out of the US Kelly Jane Towards. We'll have
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  Speaker 2: the latest on that wild main Senate race, including calls
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  Speaker 2: for Graham Plattner to step down for the Democrats, and
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  Speaker 2: the Great Michael Loftus will have all the latest on
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's wedding bash. Yep, it's still
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  Speaker 2: going on. Oh yeah, don't forget. We've got lefties losing
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  Speaker 2: it too. And on this one you're gonna meet the
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  Speaker 2: ancient Orange Men Bad protester who still packs a punch. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: let's get onto the headlines. The rise of One Nation
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  Speaker 2: has prompted Labor to amend its draft national platform. Their
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  Speaker 2: platform will now include a commitment to an anti racism
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  Speaker 2: strategy and will formalize support for welcome to Country ceremonies.
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  Speaker 2: A senior Labor source said the anti racism strategy was
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  Speaker 2: a direct response to concern among branch members about the
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  Speaker 2: rise of racism as support for One Nation grows. Labor's
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  Speaker 2: support for the Welcome Country ceremonies comes after both the
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  Speaker 2: Coalition and One Nation warned they were being overused and devalued.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about this and more Labor MP Michael Danby and
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  Speaker 2: PR Council Managing Director Christy McSweeney. Michael, let's start with
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  Speaker 2: you on this. I kind of thought that Labor wasn't
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  Speaker 2: doing culture wars anymore, and that you know, Albo said
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  Speaker 2: that he wasn't woe. Why are Labor going down this
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  Speaker 2: road because it seems like this seems like a weird
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  Speaker 2: way to try and show down One Nation.
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  Speaker 3: This is kind of crazy, James, just as you're suggesting,
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  Speaker 3: never listen to branch members that should be an iron
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  Speaker 3: all of any Labor government. They're always far to the
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  Speaker 3: left of any parliamentary party and even further to the
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  Speaker 3: left of the general public and addressing one nation should
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  Speaker 3: be rational, should be looking at the over high immigration
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  Speaker 3: rates that we had problems with the economy, but pledging
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  Speaker 3: oneself to welcome to country ceremonies is hardly going to
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  Speaker 3: make people happier out there in Menangatang or in West Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Christy, this is a crazy thing here. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all we hear about it's a cost of living. Craze
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  Speaker 2: is a cost of livings. Anthony Albernezi himself, he keeps
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  Speaker 2: repeating variations on the old James Carville banch that it's
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  Speaker 2: economy stupid. I don't know how welcome to country ceremony
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  Speaker 2: you're formalizing that is going to make my groceries cheaper,
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  Speaker 2: my interest rates on my mortgage lower, or anything of
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  Speaker 2: that nature.
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  Speaker 4: Look, all political parties need to take heed that conference
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  Speaker 4: delegates or branch members or their membership is largely not
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  Speaker 4: reflective of what is going to win the election. And
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  Speaker 4: all politicians need to heat this morning as much as
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  Speaker 4: in the coalition that they do. In Labor, we know
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  Speaker 4: that Labour's conference is left dominated. We know Labor's cabinet
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  Speaker 4: is left dominated. But fighting one nation by zeroing in
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  Speaker 4: on a welcome to country motion at a conference is
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  Speaker 4: really out of touch with why one nation is actually
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  Speaker 4: rising in the polls.
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  Speaker 5: As you say, it's cost.
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  Speaker 4: Of living, it's grievance, it's a recognition that your kids
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  Speaker 4: are not going to.
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  Speaker 5: Do as well as you who did.
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  Speaker 4: It's that Australia is refusing. The major parties haven't helped
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  Speaker 4: people get ahead. They're not seeing any of this economic
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  Speaker 4: prosperity that they keep hearing about. There's a whole conflation
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  Speaker 4: of issues that's driving the rise of one nation. And
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  Speaker 4: if you are a race based one nation voter, you
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  Speaker 4: are locked and loaded in on international immigration, not domestic
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  Speaker 4: culture wars. You're sympathetic to that, but that is not
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  Speaker 4: the mover in terms of the race based one nation voter.
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  Speaker 4: This is, you know, a really silly way to go
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  Speaker 4: about it and to publicize it as this is how
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  Speaker 4: we're fighting one nation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Michael out of touch? Yeah, it's very out of
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  Speaker 2: touch with Michael. I just try to stick with this
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  Speaker 2: topic for a second. Then, just to ask you, an
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  Speaker 2: awful lot of people have been saying, oh, well, you
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  Speaker 2: know the thing the Liberals need to do is to
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  Speaker 2: not go further to the right to try and match
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  Speaker 2: one nation, and it's a big mistake if they go
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  Speaker 2: further out to try and capture those on the fringe.
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  Speaker 2: It seems to me that the same people who would
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  Speaker 2: be telling the Liberals not to do that in their
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  Speaker 2: op ed columns in The City Warning Harold in places
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  Speaker 2: like that, are telling labor to make the exact same
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  Speaker 2: mistake in the other direction.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's a mistake that dump on people who are
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  Speaker 3: more than thirty percent of Australian voters, including many ex
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  Speaker 3: labor voters. I don't know whether they'll stick all the
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  Speaker 3: way through the election that I mean, right of center
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  Speaker 3: parties have big problems. Just look at what happened to
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  Speaker 3: Nigel Faraj. My goodness me, how's that for a turn
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  Speaker 3: of events. But don't listen to them. Stick to talking
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  Speaker 3: rationally about issues. I mean Christy saying right before about
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  Speaker 3: the cost of living electricity prices. Give us a fair account,
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  Speaker 3: Chris Bowen, of the cost of transmission lines and all
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  Speaker 3: the capital sunk costs of this ridiculous energy transformation that
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  Speaker 3: you're making for green hydrogen and all the other nonsense
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  Speaker 3: he's more like Don Quixote with all of these windmills.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, hey, let's move on from public sector of
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  Speaker 2: failings to those are the private sector. Telstra's mobile network
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  Speaker 2: was hit by a widespread outage this morning, leaving thousands
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  Speaker 2: and thousands of customers, including this one, across every mainland
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  Speaker 2: capital unable to make calls or use mobile data, and
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  Speaker 2: the outage also brought down Victoria's entire regional passenger rail network,
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  Speaker 2: now one nation. MP Barnby joice has called for an
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  Speaker 2: investigation into this and whether or not China was behind
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  Speaker 2: the outage following this week's intercontinental ballistic missile test.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to be paranoid or conspiracy theorist, but
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  Speaker 6: we know there is the capacity for people to affect
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  Speaker 6: from China to effect that sort of software and that
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  Speaker 6: sort of network. We know that they have hacked into computers.
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  Speaker 6: We know that this is part of the raison debt
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  Speaker 6: of their process. I think it's an issue that needs
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  Speaker 6: to be cleared up.
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  Speaker 2: Christy. It seems to me that this sort of thing,
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  Speaker 2: with these network out it are happening more and more.
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  Speaker 2: It just feels like that, And I don't know whether
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  Speaker 2: there's data that backset up. But does feel like that,
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  Speaker 2: it feels like this is part of a declining Australian infrastructure.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love your thoughts on that, and as somebody in
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  Speaker 2: the PR game, has Telstraden enough to manage this situation
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  Speaker 2: from a customer point of view?
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  Speaker 4: Look, the telco networks, you're right, have faced these issues.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen Options and now we've seen Telstra. It's a
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  Speaker 4: legacy of Australian companies not being run any longer in Australia.
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  Speaker 4: Optus is partly owned by Sintel. Their communications strategy is
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  Speaker 4: one made in Singapore. And try as they might the
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  Speaker 4: wonderful Optis communications team that they had at the time,
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  Speaker 4: who are really good operators, they are still reporting to
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  Speaker 4: a CEO who reports to a board and an owner
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  Speaker 4: in Singapore who doesn't understand the Australian environment. So that
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  Speaker 4: is why Optus wasn't communicating very well tell straight in
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  Speaker 4: this case today. Look they've gone out, they've been transparent,
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  Speaker 4: they've said we don't know what the cause of it is.
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  Speaker 4: They've put out their CFO. But that's a finance person
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  Speaker 4: fronting a major Australian consumer brand audience here in Australia,
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  Speaker 4: you have to have somebody who doesn't speak from a
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  Speaker 4: financial perspective, who doesn't speak from an enterprise customer perspective,
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  Speaker 4: because let's not forget large corporates, large other corporates and
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  Speaker 4: the federal government is their main concern because that's their
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  Speaker 4: money maker.
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  Speaker 5: Moms and dads and everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Else who couldn't get on the phone or couldn't contact
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  Speaker 4: emergency services and small businesses who lost access and therefore
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  Speaker 4: income is not their concern. So I think they probably
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  Speaker 4: needed to lean more into that, as corporations need to do.
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  Speaker 4: But it's outsourcing, its decision making, it's people who run
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  Speaker 4: emergency services, architecture, IT systems are not based in Australia
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  Speaker 4: and they're not even owned by Telstra or Optics, you know,
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  Speaker 4: their third party providers.
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  Speaker 5: So this is the great long march.
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  Speaker 4: Of Australian companies looking like they're Australian. Oh yeah, I've
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  Speaker 4: been headquartered in Australia, but they're not operated here when
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  Speaker 4: it counts.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well, I'm glad you mentioned the long march there,
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  Speaker 2: because that brings us back to this question of China. Here,
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  Speaker 2: Michael Danby and you know whatever Barnaby Joyce said about
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  Speaker 2: the potential that this was connected to that missile launch,
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  Speaker 2: that incident does provide a lot of fighter for worry,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it does that Beijing is a very hard headed regime.
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  Speaker 3: They're communists. Most people don't seem to remember this poor
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  Speaker 3: old Elbow and the South Pacific islandis ocean of peace
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  Speaker 3: lasted one day as they shot an intercontinental ballistic missile
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  Speaker 3: from a submarine across the entire South Pacific the ocean.
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  Speaker 3: I don't discount Barnaby's theory. One of the things that
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  Speaker 3: I'm pleased to see. He's a serious person about foreign affairs.
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  Speaker 3: Is the most serious person in the One Nation Party
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  Speaker 3: that I know of or the Australian public know of.
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  Speaker 3: But this is possible. Cyber warfare is a new area,
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  Speaker 3: of course. The most likely explanation is just what my
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  Speaker 3: co panelist has suggested, and that is incompetent overseas management
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't know about the Australian market.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but just in terms of that missile launch itself
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  Speaker 2: though you know the fact that that's happened during that
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  Speaker 2: It was also suggested yesterday Michael Vazulo suggested that potentially
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  Speaker 2: this was deliberately timed, even though it was a complicated
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  Speaker 2: operation to hit during this thing.
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  Speaker 3: James, it was deliberately timed that they made a brutal
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  Speaker 3: calculation in Beijing that the diplomatic dismay that this caused
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  Speaker 3: is well worth it because in the long term it
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  Speaker 3: scares these small South civic islands and it shows up
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  Speaker 3: the weakness of Australia. America is far away distracted, but
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  Speaker 3: we have platform ships that have one third or less
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  Speaker 3: the missile silos of any South Koreine or Japanese ship.
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  Speaker 3: Why would the Chinese be scared of us at all?
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  Speaker 3: We have the worst defense budget of any country in
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  Speaker 3: the OECD two percent. They've faked it by adding on
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  Speaker 3: pensions in intelligence. I mean, this government will go down
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  Speaker 3: in the long run of history, is as bad as
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  Speaker 3: the Lord Halifax and Chamberlain in the United Kingdom in
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  Speaker 3: the nineteen thirties.
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  Speaker 2: That's just absolutely shocking. I hope that this decade doesn't
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  Speaker 2: end like that decade did, but we'll see into that, amen.
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  Speaker 2: But just to bring things back closer to whole, we
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  Speaker 2: were talking also about, you know, some of these environmental
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  Speaker 2: schemes before and the don quixote nature of Chris bow
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  Speaker 2: and tilted get windows. But it's not just the windills,
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  Speaker 2: it's also green hydrogen and the alban Eesy governments. Green
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  Speaker 2: hydrogen project in Newcastle, New South Wales is facing major
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  Speaker 2: backlash after calculation showed carbon debatement at the facility would
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  Speaker 2: cost oh look at this, up to forty times the
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  Speaker 2: market price with would you imagine this? No guarantee of
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  Speaker 2: lower emissions and that's at a cost of five hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty billion dollars. Now, naturally, of course our friend
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  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen, he's defended the investment. But Christy mcsweety, enough
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  Speaker 2: is enough?
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  Speaker 4: Surely, well, I'm going to go out on a limb
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  Speaker 4: here and say that green hydrogen is bordering on ideologically
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  Speaker 4: ideological zelotry.
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  Speaker 5: For the government stop trying to make it fetch.
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  Speaker 4: He funded Twiggy Forest thirty three billion dollars to build
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  Speaker 4: a great hydrogen plant in Queensland. After six months he
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  Speaker 4: closed it down. Now the federal government is trying to
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  Speaker 4: get him to pay back the money.
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  Speaker 5: That didn't work.
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  Speaker 4: So you then transfer that thirty three billion dollars to
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  Speaker 4: thirty three million, sorry to Rio Tinto. So they too
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  Speaker 4: could run a green hydrogen plant. Now I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if that's started construction yet or if it's working.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know now if it worked.
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  Speaker 4: Do you not think that Andrew Forrest and ford Eskew
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  Speaker 4: and Rio Tinto would do this off their own back
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  Speaker 4: if it was commercially viable and the market economics stood
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  Speaker 4: up for it. There is no way the Australian tax
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  Speaker 4: pad needs to give out thirty three million dollars twice
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  Speaker 4: and a second time before the first lot has even
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  Speaker 4: been paid back to billionaires and to large listed companies
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  Speaker 4: with extraordinarily huge operations in market caps.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Michael, earlier today I think I heard.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was Jim Chalmers seeing basically that you know,
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  Speaker 2: things like green hydrogen, well, you know, it's just the
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  Speaker 2: government giving industries support to get going. But everything I
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  Speaker 2: look at around me, from this highlighter pen to this iPhone,
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  Speaker 2: none of these things required government support to create an
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  Speaker 2: industry around them.
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  Speaker 3: What are they on about, Jim Chalmers, Go and consult
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  Speaker 3: the great Labor Finance Minister Peter Walsh. He would say,
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  Speaker 3: stop subsidizing all of these billionaires with these ridiculous schemes
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  Speaker 3: that don't work. If green hydrogen worked and they're just
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  Speaker 3: getting them start of Jim Chalmers, where is something that works?
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  Speaker 3: Where is something that works? None of these schemes seem
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  Speaker 3: to work. I wonder where four Corners and the vast
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  Speaker 3: amount of money we pay the ABC is in examining
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  Speaker 3: in a rational way the costs of all of these windmills,
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  Speaker 3: all of these subsidies versus the benefit to Australia of decarbonization.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have some taxpayer funded investigation in a fair minded
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  Speaker 3: and rational way that people could examine how this works.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe it would teach Jim Charmers something that he
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  Speaker 3: should have learned from Peter Walsh.
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  Speaker 2: Amen to that, Michael Danby, Christy McSweeney, thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for your time.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Reform UK leader Nigra Farrag has resigned from his parliamentary
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  Speaker 2: seat of Clacton, triggering a by election which he will
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  Speaker 2: go on to fight in. All of this follows allegations
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  Speaker 2: Farage had not properly declared support for longtime ally George Kottrell,
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  Speaker 2: which reportedly included payment for security as well as social
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  Speaker 2: media staff. Farag said he had done quote nothing wrong
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  Speaker 2: and will let the people of Clacton be the judges
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  Speaker 2: of his actions. Joining me now is barrister and UK
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  Speaker 2: broadcaster Andrew Eborn. Andrew, welcome back to the program. This
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  Speaker 2: is certainly a well, it's great to have you here.
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  Speaker 2: This is certainly a funny situation. He's triggering a by
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  Speaker 2: election only to stand again in it. Are any of
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  Speaker 2: the other parties going to run against him or is
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  Speaker 2: this his to take back?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it is interesting the sort of foray into Farrage's finances,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it. But it's not simply a by elector what is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a battle over who defines the narrative of the
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  Speaker 1: legal issue and concerns these declarations, and the political issue
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  Speaker 1: concerns legitimacy. But what's happening is all of the different
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  Speaker 1: parties the sort of turning around and putting two fingers
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  Speaker 1: up to him and say, well, we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: play your game. They call it a sort of fake
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  Speaker 1: by election, and so on and so forth, and the
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  Speaker 1: major part is doing exactly that. What happens is that
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  Speaker 1: I'm always reminded the famous dead cat strategy. What you
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  Speaker 1: have to do is change the conversation. Before the conversation changes,
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  Speaker 1: you that's what he's trying to do. It's the oldest
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  Speaker 1: lesson in politics. Simply, if you can't win today's argument,
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  Speaker 1: what you do is create tomorrow's headlines. But all the
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  Speaker 1: papers are sort of turning around and say, well, actually
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  Speaker 1: this is a complete con because what's happening is that nobody,
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  Speaker 1: but nobody other than two candidates who i'll mention, are
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  Speaker 1: basically going to play game with Nigel, so he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get that legitimacy. The two candidates we have count Binface,
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  Speaker 1: who's a comedian who will be standing. And also I
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  Speaker 1: can exclusively tell you I spoke to the leader of
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  Speaker 1: the Monster Raving Looney part Oh wonderful Ah, the wonderful
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  Speaker 1: allan howling Lord Hope. And you might remember him when
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  Speaker 1: we had Andy Burnham in that by election that the
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  Speaker 1: predictable result there. He was the one who stood next
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  Speaker 1: to the podium. He had this wonderful white steps and
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  Speaker 1: on a wonderful white cowboys suit, and every time they
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  Speaker 1: used the word Hope because that's his surname, he said, yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's me. So he worked on that sort of basis
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  Speaker 1: at the Monster Raving Loony Party. I think I mentioned
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  Speaker 1: to you last time it's a satirical party here in
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  Speaker 1: the UK. And in the King's Birthday honors they did
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  Speaker 1: their own honors and they made me Lord Eborne, which
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  Speaker 1: is where and county board. And they also came in
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  Speaker 1: this glorious T shirt that you even see that as
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  Speaker 1: well that that's a short recycled teenager. It is I
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  Speaker 1: love I Love the Monster Raving Looney Party. The interesting thing,
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  Speaker 1: as I say, is that nobody's playing ball. They all
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  Speaker 1: sort of turn around the headlines basically saying that this
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  Speaker 1: is a fake by election, it's a political game. But
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  Speaker 1: what's interesting see politically is the cost.
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  Speaker 2: Of this becau.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost over two hundred and thirty thousand pounds could
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  Speaker 1: be spent on this by election. The electoral going to say,
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  Speaker 1: look what a waste of money. If you're only going
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  Speaker 1: up acount against count binbas orhor the wonderful Monster Raving
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  Speaker 1: Looney Party, the taxpayer's money could have been saved. And
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  Speaker 1: the reality is this. What happens is you suspend the
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  Speaker 1: investigation once somebody stops being an MP, but it can
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  Speaker 1: be restarted once that election has happened. If he's re elected,
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  Speaker 1: I'd say if probably when he's re elected unless less
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  Speaker 1: the monster aving than anybody get in. And the reality
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  Speaker 1: is this, it will then start the process again, which
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  Speaker 1: means another two hundred and thirty pounds. Now, if I
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  Speaker 1: were a political opponent of Nigel's and I know Nigel
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  Speaker 1: very well, have shared many TV studios with him, if
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  Speaker 1: I were a political opponent, I'm going to turn around
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  Speaker 1: and say he's costing you money and what's happening is
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  Speaker 1: what he should do is shine spotlight on the allegations
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  Speaker 1: against him, which he denies, and say, look this is
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: but these are my finances, this is what's happened, and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: be absolutely clear, because sunlight is the best disinfectant.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Well a great believer in that. But here's what Kenny Badanock,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the leader of the Conservatives, had to say, Hey, listen.
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: Nigel Ferrage is having a hissy fit because the first
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: time he's actually having to deal with some real scrutiny.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: What he needs to do is be honest about where
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: his fishy five million pounds came from. We're not standing
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: a candidate in the fake by election which Nigel Farrage
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: is causing to distract people from what is happening.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: You know, Andrew, I keep hearing people say that Kenny
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Badanack is really cutting a very impressive figure at the moment.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Except the problem is that nobody, but nobody is prepared
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: to vote for her brand the Conservatives, the Tories, which
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: is so tremendously tarnished. Do they have any hope out
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: of this mess in this by election of maybe regaining
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: some of their own support or is it still reforms
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: to walk away with.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Well, the turqoise tidal wave as I call, I think
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: as Sadi King Canute has sort of stepped in and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: tried to stop that. Kemy's popularity is great when you
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: hear in Prime Minister's question time, she's very incisive in
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: her questions and so and so forth, compared to the wishy,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: washy gray Keir Starmer. And as I said beforehand, it's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: basically personalities are basically taking precedent over policies. We looked
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: at the recent by election where Andy Burnham, again who
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I've known for a while, is a wonderful personality, but
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: people voted for him. It was a positive vote for
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: him rather than for the Labor Party, and the last
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: election that we had over here, basically that was a
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: vote against the Tories. Rather than a vote for Labor.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Labour's policies basically are at an all time low because
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: they keep you turning, and so the trust basically in
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: those sort of policies and people's promises has degenerated. And
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I always say, look, trust comes in on foot and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: leaves on horseback. And what we need are people who
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: can basically Calvin are galvanized, rather people that the electric
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: behind them say look, this is somebody we believe in.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: This is a personality who can dominate and deliver for us.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: And it's all about that delivery. It's not about soundbites,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: it's not about empty promises, it's not about U turns,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and we've had so many of those from the Labor government.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: It's actually about people who will deliver. And time will
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: tell Andy Burnham himself. He could be Prime Minister within
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a matter of days. I think the earliest is the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: seventeenth of July. There's nobody going to be standing against him,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and that seems increasingly likely. Nominations are about to open
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: over here, but we will see. But as I say,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Kemeny is doing very well. The Conservatives are not doing
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: so well. And basically it's the same with Andy Burnham.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: He's doing very well, but Labor are doing atrociously.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Absolutely right, they certainly are well. We'll have to say
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: questions about Keer Star War's long goodbye for next time,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: andrew ybar Than, thank you so much for joining me.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: As always, it's always a pleasure to see you next time.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Still to come left he is losing it. Plus all
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the latest from the US, including more calls for Graham
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Plattner to get out of that Maine Senate race. Kelly
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Jane Torrens brings us all the latest, and now it's
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: time for lefties and losing it. Well, it's all kicking
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: off in the sleepy state of Maine this week. Our
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: first lefty who's losing it? This one is straight out
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: of Central Casting, Anti Trump tick hold is the hills tick,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: hippie ponytail tick grateful dead t shirt tick tick tick.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Check out this guy attacking a reporter from the main wirey.
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: Hey excuse me, sir, what would you just do that for?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Hey excuse me sir? Why would you just
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: assault me? I would you like to would you like
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: to tell me why you just assaulted me? And check
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: it out? Uncle Lewis goes back for a second. Go
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: do you answer questions? I do not answer questions? Who
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: are you?
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: I do not answer question?
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: It's okay, sir, all right, it's all right?
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: Is it?
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: It seems a little bit that he might not be
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: the right type of person for out here.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Man, I love that cliff. He even had someone with
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: an orange man bad signed You can't you can't get
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: enough it. But anyway, speaking of se protesters, let's check
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: this one out now again. You've got the bonker's T shirt,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the left to who won't answer a question, and a
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: random passer by who doesn't like free speech all that much.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna call that a trifecta. Mam, Can you please
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: tell us about your shirt?
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: What do you what does it mean?
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: What?
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Who's black?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Volte? Was suppressed today?
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: Any black vote? Okay? Have you not been following the
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: Supreme Court?
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: What did the Supreme Court do that suppressed the black vote?
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: Who are you?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: My name is out of press?
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Put a camera in someone's face in public?
• 24:19
  Speaker 12: Oh, that's actually the first amendment. It's the first amendment
• 24:25
  Speaker 12: I've seen make America braving.
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: If he's a meg No, I.
• 24:28
  Speaker 13: Don't want to We're not going to do that you
• 24:30
  Speaker 13: think we're talking to harass you on to public Yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 13: without beer.
• 24:33
  Speaker 12: That's funny that you think the First Amendment is harassment, ma'am.
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: Cameras in their faces.
• 24:40
  Speaker 12: So is hating the First Amendment ma'am?
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah it is.
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: Oh really I should do that.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Ah, she seems nice. Meanwhile, when I was growing up,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the left was always out there saying God is dead. Now.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened in the intervening decades. Maybe
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: they realized they were misquoting nietzschee on that one. But
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: now everyone on the left is saying no, no, no, no, no,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: God is not dead, not at all. No he or
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: rather it is non binary.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: God is non binary. There's that clip of James Talerico
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: saying exactly that. And you know what, He's right. If
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: man is made in God's image and woman is made
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: in God's image, and we all are made in God's image,
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: what kind of entity are we talking about? What kind
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: of God are we talking about? God is all of
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: everything and God is every gender.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. This guy makes Pope Leo look
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: like the Spanish Inquisition. Anyway, Let's go over to the UK,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: where the Health Secretary James Murray seems to have finally
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: had the penny drop over a very basic question of biology.
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: Trans aren't you You've appeared in campaigns and things. I mean,
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: do you think a woman can have a penis? Because
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: you did previously. It's an important question for a health
• 26:00
  Speaker 11: secretary to answer.
• 26:02
  Speaker 14: No, I don't.
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: So you've changed your mind? Yes, Why have you changed
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: your mind?
• 26:06
  Speaker 14: Well, I think a lot of us have been thinking
• 26:07
  Speaker 14: about this issue over recent years. And you know I
• 26:11
  Speaker 14: wouldn't now say that, for instance, trans women are women.
• 26:15
  Speaker 14: I think that biological sex is importance.
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: I have known that before. You're very well educated. You
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: went to Saint Paul's private school. I was reading this morning.
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: How on earth could you have previously thought that a
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: woman can have a penis?
• 26:25
  Speaker 14: Well, I think this is an issue that a lot
• 26:27
  Speaker 14: of us have thought about in recent years, and I
• 26:29
  Speaker 14: think there's a difference between sex and gender. I think
• 26:33
  Speaker 14: that when it comes to sex and biology is what matters.
• 26:36
  Speaker 11: And that's why you owe women who called for who
• 26:41
  Speaker 11: were gender critical and then were canceled in apology.
• 26:44
  Speaker 14: Look, I don't think people should be canceled. I think
• 26:46
  Speaker 14: people should be allowed to have their views.
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: Oh, the reason these women are canceled is because people
• 26:51
  Speaker 11: like you denied biological sex and then they were hounded
• 26:56
  Speaker 11: on by the trans lobby.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Now, remember this guy's a bit years I believing or
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: pretending to believe that biological sex is fluid and that again, yes,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: women can have penises. Who knew? Only now, when the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: cast review, court rulings and public opinion have radically shifted
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the dial, he suddenly changed his mind. Nothing more bracing
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: than the possibility of electoral oblivion to sharpen the focus,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I always say, Now, let's go on and have one
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: more bit of unhinged July forest business madness. Jasmin Crockett
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: take it away this.
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: Fourth of July.
• 27:33
  Speaker 13: I say, celebrate a black woman that you know, because
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: whether it's an invention that she made, or whether it's
• 27:39
  Speaker 13: the very democracy that still hangs by a thread right now,
• 27:42
  Speaker 13: there is a black woman to thank for her contributions.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Black women invented democracy which is apparently hanging by a thread.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Who knew anyway? Just to round things out a bit
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: more unhinged leftist lunacy at the local Pride march. Apparently
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: free speeches terrorism now or something we don't entertain.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Terrorists you don't.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Did she just call me a terrorist? Did you just
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: call me a terrorist? How am I a terrorist? How
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: am I a terrorist? She wants to be left alone?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: How am I terrorist?
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: No?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: No, he wants to be left alone.
• 28:23
  Speaker 12: Do you condone her actions?
• 28:25
  Speaker 14: Right there?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I don't condone your actions at all? Do you condone
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I don't conduct your actions? Okay, tough guy, thank you,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go get the mica. Please walk away. This
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: is pride.
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: If you haven't realized that, you're like beer and very.
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: Well, well, this is something called and you could say
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: with me public property, right, it's public property?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Say already found it out? Public property. I'm not as
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: ignorants as you are.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not brainwised as most No, no, No'm not.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: What is public property? Not me? Gosh, make it makes sense.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, if the Nazi tattoo is the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: racist Reddit posts weren't enough. The sexual assault allegation that's
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: been leveled against Senate candidate in Maine, Graham Plattner, has rocked.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Finally the Democrat Party, who are now thinking, hey, maybe
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: this guy isn't who we want representing us in Congress.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Senior Democrats have called on Graham Plattner to pull out
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: of the Senate race. And it comes to me to
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: report by the Wall Street Journal that Democrat operatives only
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: paid sixty two hundred and fifty dollars for a on
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the cheap background check on Platner before they launched his campaign.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Well to talking about these very disturbing allegations and what
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: happens next, Let's bring up my good friend editor of
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the Washington Star. Everybody go check that out, Kelly, Jy
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and Torrents. Kelly, this is just amazing to me. I mean,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: who knew that a guy with a Nazi tattoo, really
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: abhorrent racial views, bizarre online history, a lot of sexting scandals,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of dodgy clay around his behavior with women,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: could also have been credibly accused of rape. It just
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: boggles the mind.
• 30:10
  Speaker 15: It's so telling, James, how many Democrats stood behind Graham
• 30:14
  Speaker 15: Platner until the very latest allegation, which is of rape,
• 30:20
  Speaker 15: came out. Like you said, the Nazi tattoo wasn't enough.
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: The racist reddit posts. He also denigrated American service members
• 30:29
  Speaker 15: on Reddit, and of course there was a New York
• 30:33
  Speaker 15: Times piece about some of his problematic dealings with ex girlfriends.
• 30:38
  Speaker 15: And of course it turns out The New York Times
• 30:40
  Speaker 15: did actually know about this rape allegation and did not
• 30:45
  Speaker 15: go forward with it. This woman didn't feel comfortable at
• 30:47
  Speaker 15: the time because she also thought that the article was
• 30:50
  Speaker 15: going to be a lot more about other allegations against him,
• 30:54
  Speaker 15: and it turns out the Times was trying to play
• 30:57
  Speaker 15: it down. And now that there's about a week last
• 31:00
  Speaker 15: for him to withdraw, for Democrats to be able to
• 31:03
  Speaker 15: name someone else, now they're finally calling on grand Platner
• 31:07
  Speaker 15: to drop out. And it's really just utter hypocrisy, you know, James,
• 31:12
  Speaker 15: and you know that they didn't do some vetting, they
• 31:14
  Speaker 15: knew some of this stuff ahead of time.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: And you know what's crazy is every single time another
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: story would drop, and my god, there's been a lot
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: of stories and you and I have spoken about some
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: of them previously on the US report. They said, is
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: that it? And he goes, oh yeah, no, no, no, no,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: that's it. There's nothing more to come out. And now
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: the allegation is that you know, he was you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: relate on and off again relationship with a woman and
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: went to her house and had sex with her, non consensually,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: and she had a lot of corroborating evidence, testimony from
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the Times. She gave it to The New York Times.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: It's you know, this reminds me with the New York Times,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the same way that they hid the Ukrainian famine back
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: in Stalin's days because they wanted Stalin to succeed and
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: they didn't want bad press. They want Platner to succeed.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: How does does anybody trust the mainstream media when they're
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: so in the tank here?
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: It's crazy, James.
• 32:13
  Speaker 15: And you know a lot of people have been pointing
• 32:15
  Speaker 15: to an appearance on CNN that the New York Times
• 32:19
  Speaker 15: writers made last month after they had published their story,
• 32:23
  Speaker 15: and it's quite incredible the way that they were talking
• 32:26
  Speaker 15: on CNN about the story and really how how you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 15: casual that they thought the story was, and how it
• 32:34
  Speaker 15: really didn't hurt Graham Plattner at all, And now that
• 32:37
  Speaker 15: we know how much they actually knew, it's so much
• 32:40
  Speaker 15: more damning, and it's it's quite incredible, James.
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: And you think about it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 15: I mean they, you know, Graham Platter's wife even went
• 32:49
  Speaker 15: to the campaign, uh, you know, long ago last year
• 32:52
  Speaker 15: and told them, hey, by the way. My husband's started
• 32:56
  Speaker 15: sexting other women weeks after we got married, and they
• 33:00
  Speaker 15: still went ahead with this candidate. So you know, you
• 33:03
  Speaker 15: kind of have to wonder who knew what when. But
• 33:05
  Speaker 15: the thing was that they thought, well, this is our
• 33:07
  Speaker 15: best chance to take out Susan Collins, who's been a
• 33:11
  Speaker 15: longtime senator, very popular, you know, a Republican in Maine,
• 33:15
  Speaker 15: but very moderate. But they they're painting her as some
• 33:18
  Speaker 15: kind of a dragon that needs to be slain simply
• 33:21
  Speaker 15: because she voted along with some of Trump's judicial nominees.
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: It's quite crazy.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: It's insane to me because, as you say, Susan Collins
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: is moderate. I mean, she is about as moderate a
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Republican as you can get, and she's been there forever.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: She would seem like the least defensive I mean, John
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Fetterman is probably to the right of her from the
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Democrat Party. And yet they're going after her. Yeah, and
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: this is causing all sorts of chaos all over the left. Now,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: have a look at here on the View, our good
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: friends of the View, where our friend sunny host was
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: called out by a co host for bringing up Clay
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: against Pete Hews. Do this.
• 34:02
  Speaker 16: A woman claimed he had sexually assaulted her after a conference.
• 34:06
  Speaker 16: She reported that assault immediately, she had a sexual assault examination,
• 34:10
  Speaker 16: and in twenty twenty and he says it was a
• 34:13
  Speaker 16: consensual encounter. And in twenty twenty he paid her fifty
• 34:16
  Speaker 16: thousand dollars to settle the claim.
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: Yet yet, why the yes, I condemned them, but the
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: Republicans didn't. Republicans confirmed him.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: And Republican right here one who has been credibly I'm.
• 34:29
  Speaker 16: Thinking about the Republican Party as a whole.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: So this is the way that they sort of deal with,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: This is the way they sort of deal with, you know, Republicans.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Any claim against the Republican we know what, you know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: claims against Donald Trump, they considered him, you know, a
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: de facto rapist. They claims again Brett Kavanaugh. But when
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: it's one of their own, the Democrats have this incredible
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: blind spot. It feels to me they're going to keep
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: getting into trouble if they keep having this blind spot
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: where they say, any accusation against the Republican, we believe
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: any causation against one of ours, Well, it feels like
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the Democrats are gonna windup attracting an awful lot of creeps.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Into their party.
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: It's a great point, James.
• 35:09
  Speaker 15: And you know, the thing on the view today really
• 35:12
  Speaker 15: just says it all.
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 35:14
  Speaker 15: They think that there's absolutely nothing that a Democrat can
• 35:17
  Speaker 15: do that's as bad as something that say, Donald Trump
• 35:20
  Speaker 15: has done. And you know, they even go and far
• 35:23
  Speaker 15: make things up. I mean, it's it's quite insane. And again,
• 35:28
  Speaker 15: address what's going on in.
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: Your own party.
• 35:30
  Speaker 15: But of course their first thought is, oh, we have
• 35:32
  Speaker 15: to find something that Republicans did that's just as bad,
• 35:35
  Speaker 15: and we're going to mention that, you know, that's not
• 35:37
  Speaker 15: good and it's certainly not good enough for the American
• 35:39
  Speaker 15: people and the people of Maine who certainly deserve better
• 35:43
  Speaker 15: and deserve to have a choice that doesn't involve you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 15: you're only a Democratic you know choice in the after
• 35:50
  Speaker 15: you know, the primary is this guy who's a liar.
• 35:53
  Speaker 15: I mean, he lied for months saying that there was
• 35:55
  Speaker 15: nothing more to come out, and as you pointed out,
• 35:58
  Speaker 15: we knew that there was more to come out.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just absolutely I want to move on, but
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I just want to close on this topic with one
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: point and get your thoughts on it. I mean, for
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the last ten twenty years, the Democrat Party has gone
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: around telling everybody that straight white men are actually you know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Nazis and rapists and sex abusers. And it seems to
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: be like having chased all the normal white guys out
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: of the Party of Now when they need them because
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: they want to project an air of normality. Who's surprised
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: when they wind up with a candidate who turns out
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: to be all of their stereotypes, you know, the Nazi,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: the accused rapist, the sex abuse or the creep.
• 36:41
  Speaker 15: You you, the nail on the head James, you know.
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: And of course during the presidential election.
• 36:47
  Speaker 15: We had Tim Walls trying to be the vision of manliness.
• 36:53
  Speaker 15: They've chased out all the decent, you know, men who
• 36:56
  Speaker 15: stand for masculine values, and this is what they have left.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable. Hey, over on the Republican side, there's
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: some weirdness too that we've got to talk about. And
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: you know, you remember the old game where the world
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: is Carmen San Diego, Well, I want to play a
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: new game, where in the world is Mitch McConnell. Now,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: two Republicans claim they have individually spoken to the Kentucky Senator,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: according to their aids, and it comes after news that
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell was hos hospitalized more than three weeks ago
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: after being admitted for undisclosed health issues. Now we've already
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: seen McConnell in the public eye not looking all that sharp,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the ravages of age and all that, but no one's
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: talking about anything around his condition. And meanwhile, there's this
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: strange business with his wife going to China three days
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: after his hospitalization, saying, oh, well, you know, it didn't
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: require his wife to be there. None of this, Kelly,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: makes any sense to me. Is this about trying to
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: keep things going so that they don't have to have
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: a special election in Kentucky for the Senate seat. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: don't want to be cynical, but that's what it feels
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: like to me.
• 38:16
  Speaker 15: Yeah, this is a wild one, James. I mean, you
• 38:19
  Speaker 15: know Mitch McConnell. Of course, he's in his eighties, as
• 38:21
  Speaker 15: you mentioned, and he's had some health issues over the years.
• 38:24
  Speaker 15: He actually already you know, from the beginning, he's had
• 38:27
  Speaker 15: a limping problem because he got polio in childhood. But
• 38:31
  Speaker 15: in the last few years things have gotten worse, and
• 38:34
  Speaker 15: it's very mysterious.
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: What's going on right now.
• 38:38
  Speaker 15: He apparently had a cardiac arrest at his home, was
• 38:42
  Speaker 15: taken to the hospital where he's remained for weeks, and
• 38:45
  Speaker 15: his staff and his family will not say what he
• 38:49
  Speaker 15: is being hospitalized for. The staff at every time media
• 38:53
  Speaker 15: outlet ask, they released the same statement. So we're seeing
• 38:57
  Speaker 15: the same statement, you know, a week after week, which
• 39:00
  Speaker 15: is that he's recovering in hospital and staff are working
• 39:03
  Speaker 15: with him and he's working to do uh the work
• 39:06
  Speaker 15: of the Kentucky senator while he's in the hospital. That
• 39:11
  Speaker 15: seems a little unlikely, and you know, it's gotten even stranger.
• 39:14
  Speaker 15: You know, today, Scott Jennings, who is a you know,
• 39:19
  Speaker 15: very popular Republican contributor to CNN, said he had a
• 39:24
  Speaker 15: conversation with Mitch McConnell. Sounded like it was about half
• 39:27
  Speaker 15: an hour, he said. They talked about Iran, Ukraine.
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: Some other issues. But if that's the case, why.
• 39:34
  Speaker 15: Wouldn't Mitch McConnell have a brief conversation with you know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 15: a regular reporter and give some proof of life, As
• 39:43
  Speaker 15: you said, you know, we recently had another mysterious congressman
• 39:48
  Speaker 15: disappear again, Republican in New Jersey, you know, Tom Keen.
• 39:53
  Speaker 15: It turned out that he was in a you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 15: mental health assily being treated for a pression and so
• 39:58
  Speaker 15: that was already weird, but this is a, as you say, weirder.
• 40:01
  Speaker 15: I mean, you know, not every you know, husband wants
• 40:04
  Speaker 15: his wife necessarily at the side of his hospital bed
• 40:07
  Speaker 15: twenty four hours a day. But how many would want
• 40:09
  Speaker 15: their wives to be flying to China while they're you know,
• 40:14
  Speaker 15: might be fighting for his life. And let's face it,
• 40:17
  Speaker 15: it's pretty odd of all places that you would need
• 40:21
  Speaker 15: to go to China. Of course, she has family there,
• 40:24
  Speaker 15: and the family has business interests there. But it's all
• 40:28
  Speaker 15: really murky and it has a very bad look, especially
• 40:32
  Speaker 15: as it gets closer to that August third date.
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: Is it really true that they're keeping him, you know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: on life support?
• 40:39
  Speaker 15: Some of those rumors are so that Thomas Massey, who
• 40:42
  Speaker 15: was recently defeated in the primary, couldn't, for example, you know,
• 40:46
  Speaker 15: go in a special election and try to win that seat.
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: It's it's wild, James.
• 40:51
  Speaker 15: You thought nothing could get stranger in the terms already,
• 40:54
  Speaker 15: while here we are talking about Mitch McConnell, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 15: whether he's alive or dead and what's going on with them.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, obviously we wish the Senator all the best,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: But you know, I tell you that when you're in
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: your eighties and there's been a cardiac arrest, you'd think,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: you know, you'd be a little more forthcoming about what's
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: going on. I don't know. We'll just have to leave
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: it there and let the conspiracy theorists fill the vacuum, because,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: as I always say, Kelly, conspiracy theories are so often
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: just coming attractions. We're gonna have to leave it there.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Kelly. Jay Towards, editor of The
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Washington Star, thanks so much for joining me.
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: Thank you, James.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Well, coming up all the ladies entertainment news, including all
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the gossip from Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's wedding bash.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Writer and comedian Michael Loftis joins me next, and you
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: know that's gonna be had a lot of fun. Welcome back. Well,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: let's get the latest in royal and entertainment news. And
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: joining me now to discuss all of that that's going
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: on is writer and comedian Michael Loftis. Michael, I know
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: people might be getting a little bit of the Tata fatigue,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: but I want to get straight into it still with
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: this big news that happened over the weekend, and of
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: course I'm talking about the huge wedding celebration of Taylor
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Swift and Travis Kelcey with over a thousand guests I'm
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: sure all personal friends of the happy couple, well known
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: to them for years and years and years attending the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: celebrations at New York's Madison Square Garden with the couple
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: in forced that gay strict no phones policy throughout the night. However,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: one source did tell Page six that the space was
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: completely transformed and guests almost forgot that they were inside
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: an arena. Nobody's seemed bothered by giving their phones because
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: everyone understood why. It actually made people more present throughout
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: the evening. I guess so, I mean, I can sort
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: of see that. But Michael, what do you make of
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: the name a celebration?
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: Oh, it's it's it's fantastic. And listen, you gotta copyright
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: Tate fatigue. That's that's the new COVID nineteen new that's
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: the new pandemic. I need the vaccine for Tate fatigue
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: the only way I can go to work. Listen, I
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: think I think she's gonna make out like a bandit
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: on this the more I find out about it, I'm
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: gonna guess there's probably a documentary crew. I'm sure somebody's
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: gonna buy the rights to it. She and she and
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: Travis are gonna I think they're gonna make I think
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: they're gonna make money off of this, and and the
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: American and me. I gotta celebrate that. That's capitalism.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know.
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: Everybody set your watches on how long this lasts. I
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: give it. I give it three years tops, and then
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: it's over.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean, as I keep saying, I cannot
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: wait for the breakup song because I want to find
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: out what she ribs with Travis. It's gonna be a
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: really interesting visit to the old I mean dictionary for
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: her there. But don't you think though it is kind
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: of fun. I mean, this woman, you know, all of
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: her early stuff was all this. You know. Oh, I'm moody,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I'm a low and I'm in my bedroom. I'm having thoughts.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: And now I am selling the rights to my wedding
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: for a big documentary that they'll probably go on Netflix.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna make money out of the deal.
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: Really, yeah, dear Diary, Today I made three billion dollars
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: I'm so sad, brownie face. I don't know how she's
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: gonna spin it. Somehow, He'll be the bad guy, She'll
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: have her heart broken. There's gonna be action figures, and
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: she'll probably be part of the Marvel Cinematic universe before
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: it's all over.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Oh God, don't wish sell on anybody. Hey. It's a
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: good segue though, to our next topic, which is over
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the world of film. Here and actress Lupita Nyongo, who
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: is starring in the new upcoming Christopher Nolan film The
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Odyssey as Helen of Troy. I couldn't believe this because
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: she has complained about the lack of female reper in
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the great epic work, which is a bit of a
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: news to me. Have a look at this.
• 45:07
  Speaker 17: When you read the Iliad and the Odyssey, very little
• 45:11
  Speaker 17: time is spent in the perspective of the women, right,
• 45:16
  Speaker 17: it's told from a very masculine side of things. But
• 45:19
  Speaker 17: this film takes a lot of It takes time to
• 45:22
  Speaker 17: really consider things from the female perspective, and so we
• 45:26
  Speaker 17: see in Helen and Clytemnestra how this war has affected
• 45:29
  Speaker 17: them both and they respond to it very differently because
• 45:33
  Speaker 17: they experience of it is very different, and so for
• 45:36
  Speaker 17: me that was very enriching to take the time to
• 45:40
  Speaker 17: kind of like humanize them and consider what this time
• 45:45
  Speaker 17: could have looked like for them.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Michael, I don't know if you're much of a classicist yourself,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: but I do recall from the Odyssey that there were
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: a large number of really prominent female characters. You know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Penelope Aphrodite a scene also hearsay, I mean I can
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: name half a dozen a dozen really big, strong calypso
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: they just keep coming to line here, strong female characters.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: This just seems like somebody who you know, maybe didn't
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: actually read the book.
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like she's just spouting talking points and and
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: someone might want to remind this this young lady. The
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: reason there's not a lot of time spent on the
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: female part. It's not written from their perspective at all.
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: It's not about a woman. It's it's the Odyssey. Just
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: someone should let her know. This is not a movie
• 46:33
  Speaker 9: about a Honda Mini van. This is about a guy
• 46:37
  Speaker 9: trying to get home to his wife. Yeah, that's that's
• 46:41
  Speaker 9: a face that launched a thousand ships back to Greece.
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: We got to get out of here. She's stupid. This
• 46:47
  Speaker 9: This is the kind of person that that that watches
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: Lawrence of Arabia and says, hmm, there's a lot of sand.
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: We spent a lot of time in the desert here
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: the Titanic. It seems like a lot of water. Like
• 46:59
  Speaker 9: what you just can't make you. Evidently you can't make
• 47:02
  Speaker 9: some women happy. And she's gonna find something to complain about.
• 47:05
  Speaker 9: And I think audiences are not gonna go. I think
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: this is gonna be Chris Nolan's Waterloo.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I was hoping that this was going to be a big,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: sort of the leading of the classical revival in American
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: cinema because there's so many great stories out there for
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: them to remake. But apparently they're just doing what they've
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: done everything else, which is remaking them and ruining them.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: But just while we're at it, actress and Dayah who
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: plays Athena, Yes, a strong female lead in the film.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: She arrived at the Paris premiere of the film wearing
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: this head piece. I guess, Michael, your thoughts.
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: What in the Indonesian upside down ice cream cone are
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: we looking at?
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: Is?
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: She?
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: Is?
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: She on a tight schedule, she's got the she's got
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: the premiere of her movie at eight and then she's
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: got a high line match at eight thirty. She's she's
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: gotta be ready to go, Like, who's maybe's maybe she's
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: in a traffic cone on her head because she saw
• 48:02
  Speaker 9: those Scottish people having all that fun putting the traffic
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: cones on the statues in America for the World Cup.
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: She wanted to be part of the World Cup fun.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well look that's a great theory. That's a great theory.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Here's a story.
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: She can wherever she wants, she can lay down.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: That's that's a great idea. Just you know, you just
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: stick her up. In fact, actually, if you've got like
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: moving vans or something coming to your house, just put
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: her out the front, you know, the night before so
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: your neighbors know, don't don't park there. Marrow's got a
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: got a van coming. Maybe he's getting a new kitchen
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: delivered or something like that.
• 48:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, trash day tomorrow, put then daya out.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, just call call up the council, you know,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: range with that pickup. Hey, you know, this is one
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: of these stories that kind of makes me wonder how
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: celebrity news kind of comes about here, because this seems
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: like a very sort of ordinary story, and it is
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: making headlines that Will and Jada Pickett Smith have reportedly well,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: good for them, I mean, taking a major step in
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: rekindling their marriage. They've decided to move back in with
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: each other after spending close to ten years separated, with
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: the Insider telling people back to me they're happy and
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: love each other and are as ever committed to supporting
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: each other. Michael, like, guess, it seems like they've come
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: a long way. Is there something deeper about the significance
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: that I'm missing?
• 49:22
  Speaker 9: I guess Will wants the entire world to know that
• 49:27
  Speaker 9: he's okay with Jada doing whatever. And sadly, this this,
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: this kind of works like Groundhog Day. Every time he
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: and Jada get back together, you get six more years
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: of crappy Will Smith movies. I was kind of hoping.
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: I was kind of hoping they would split and he
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: would grow a spine and actually make good movies. Again.
• 49:48
  Speaker 9: This is bad. I don't know. I don't know. He
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: made movies like, oh, he made some great ones, he
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: made some awesome flicks, and then he got with Jada
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: and then it kind of went down the toilet. Then
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: he was coming back and now back with jadagain. She
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: had like a long term affair with their kid's best friend.
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: How do you how do you go to cocktail parties
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: and just act like everything's on the open up after that?
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I didn't know about that one, but that's
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: that's quite spicy there, Michael. I was just gonna say
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: that my favorite will Smith wille was six degrees of Separation,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: but I guess we're gonna have to leave it there
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: because they just had ten years of separation. Thank you
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: so much, Michael Loftes three a time, great fun chatting
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: to you as always. Good to see you man, and hey,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: that's it for me. Up next is a newsnight. Good night,