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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 4-9-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: which of course starts today, although the real festivities began
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Speaker 2: yesterday with the Par three tournament that was a lot
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Speaker 2: we're gonna start the show today as promised on social
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Speaker 2: media and yesterday with the head coach of your Utah
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Speaker 2: Utes football team, Morgan Scally. Right off the top, Morgan coach.
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Speaker 2: Don't know which one I want to call you, but
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Speaker 2: welcome to the show.
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Speaker 3: Well, dude, whatever you want to call me.
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Speaker 2: Man, you know what, I'm gonna call you, coach because
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Speaker 2: I think it's awesome that you're the head coach of
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Speaker 2: the Utes, So I'm gonna call you coach.
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Speaker 4: Uh?
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Speaker 2: Is it weird being Jordan Gross's boss and Bonagai's boss
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Speaker 2: and the boss of some of the guys that were
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Speaker 2: either your direct equals and peers or like I'm sure
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Speaker 2: at some point on that Utah football roster, Jordan Gross
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Speaker 2: was higher on the player food chain than you were.
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Speaker 5: Is it weird being their boss? Now?
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that. I see it like i'm
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Speaker 3: their boss. I think we're just we're co workers, you know,
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Speaker 3: we're Yeah, they report to me, But we all have
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Speaker 3: our job and our responsibilities, and I think we're all
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Speaker 3: wanting the same thing and that success for the program
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Speaker 3: for our players. So I mean, yes, I guess I
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Speaker 3: don't think that I'm your boss. I'm just we're working
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Speaker 3: together for the same goal.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm a little disappointed by that because it would
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Speaker 2: be a lot funnier if it matched my mental picture
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Speaker 2: of you like berating them all the time.
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Speaker 3: You know, really, well, you'll have to ask them that,
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe I will.
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Speaker 2: Well, James, my producer, brought up something yesterday. I thought
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Speaker 2: I thought it was a good question because your your
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Speaker 2: mantra RSNB relentless, smart and nasty ballhawks is obviously applied
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Speaker 2: to your defense, your defensive style.
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Speaker 5: How do you be a nasty ballhawk on offense?
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Speaker 3: Well, nasty is an acronym for no excuses attack. The
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Speaker 3: problem starts with me team first mentality and yes, their communication.
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Speaker 3: So that's that's applicable to anyone. A nasty mentality is
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Speaker 3: is you know, not just side of the ball specific
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Speaker 3: that you know is what the whole team should be.
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Speaker 3: And then in terms of ballhawks, that's just you know,
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Speaker 3: it's our job to keep the ball on offense, it's
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Speaker 3: our job to get the ball. On defense, the ball
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Speaker 3: is the issue, and that's applicable to both sides as well.
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Speaker 3: I in fact talked to our staff about it's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, we have the ballhawks, and do we make
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Speaker 3: it different for the offense and you know, is it
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Speaker 3: ball hogs? What is it? And every single offensive staff
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Speaker 3: member said, no, we keep it the same. That's who
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Speaker 3: we are. And that was pretty cool. So I was like,
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Speaker 3: all right, let's go.
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's great to get buy in on an
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Speaker 2: idea like that from your staff. Do you feel like
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Speaker 2: the players have been enthusiastic with their buy in as well?
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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, and you're seeing it. I mean, them living
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Speaker 3: the culture more and more every single practice.
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Speaker 1: And.
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Speaker 3: You know they want to do it because they see
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Speaker 3: the beauty of it. They see the results and us
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Speaker 3: improving as a team and the behavior is actually making
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Speaker 3: us a better football team. So the buy in's there,
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Speaker 3: you know, simply because the experience is awesome right now.
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Speaker 3: So when it's hard, and really where culture is exposed
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Speaker 3: for good or bad is not when things are going great.
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Speaker 3: It's when things are difficult and and it's hard to
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Speaker 3: behave the way that we're asking them to behave. So
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Speaker 3: you know, we've yet to face a ton of adversity,
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Speaker 3: but that's going to come and and that's where you know,
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Speaker 3: we'll really find out what type of culture we have.
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Speaker 3: You can try and manufacture that, simulate as much as
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Speaker 3: you can and practice situations, but ultimately, you know, when
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Speaker 3: the season hits and the pressures there and things may
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Speaker 3: not be going your way, that's when you know culture
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Speaker 3: is really revealed.
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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to ask you how you try
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Speaker 2: to coach up that sort of mental fortitude aspect, and
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Speaker 2: I know a lot of that is done in the
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Speaker 2: weight room more historically has been done in the way room.
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Speaker 2: But the science these days sometimes points to like maybe
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Speaker 2: don't grind everyone down too much as you're going through
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Speaker 2: you know a bunch of practices and whatnot. So as
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Speaker 2: you're in this first spring period, coming off of your
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Speaker 2: first winter conditioning period and heading into your first summer
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Speaker 2: speed school and all that kind of stuff, Like what
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Speaker 2: is the Morgan Scally philosophy on making sure that these
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Speaker 2: guys face adversity before you do get to a season.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's I think it's helping them understand the why
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Speaker 3: and everything that you're doing. You know, nothing frustrated me
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Speaker 3: more as a player than doing things drills, exercise, whatever
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Speaker 3: it is that didn't translate on the field or wasn't
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Speaker 3: making me a better football player. And I understand that
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Speaker 3: there's things that you can be doing in the weight
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Speaker 3: room or during the off season that are trying to,
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Speaker 3: you know, strengthen your mind and get you mentally tough.
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Speaker 3: But I'm a firm believer that if you want to
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Speaker 3: make good football players, you help them become elite in
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Speaker 3: the behaviors that make good football players. And you know,
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Speaker 3: if you want to be a physical football player, guess
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Speaker 3: what you're going to have to tackle? How do you tackle?
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Speaker 3: What's the best way to tackle, what's the best way
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Speaker 3: to take on a block, and don't shy away from
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Speaker 3: it in your practice. I think this is one of
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Speaker 3: the highest ratios from crossover team reps to to live
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Speaker 3: tackling that we've done over the past six or seven years.
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Speaker 3: And it's because if you do it, and you do
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Speaker 3: it in a control environment and you're you know, you're
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Speaker 3: making sure that you divvy out those those reps, you
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Speaker 3: know you can do it and still stay healthy it's
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Speaker 3: you know, a lot of the injuries come from a
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Speaker 3: thud temple where you're you're learning bad technique, you're you know,
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Speaker 3: you're doing things that you wouldn't do when you're live tackling.
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Speaker 3: That's when the injuries occur. So it's been really neat
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Speaker 3: for these guys to be able to practice physical and
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Speaker 3: you know, show us who can tackle, who's going to
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Speaker 3: take the proper angles, versus you get to the season
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Speaker 3: and say, okay, well I hope we're there, it didn't happen.
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Speaker 2: It seems to me in my experience that you've got
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Speaker 2: certain tone setters on a roster on a team, right,
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Speaker 2: and I know you've voted on your leadership council and
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Speaker 2: will eventually have captains and things like that, and oftentimes
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Speaker 2: it is those guys that are your tone setters. But
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's like the energy tone setter types,
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Speaker 2: the guys that are loud and maybe getting people pumped up,
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Speaker 2: the guys that hold their teammates accountable. There's also the
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Speaker 2: physicality tone setters that maybe aren't always as verbal. I'm
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Speaker 2: thinking like the Chris kim Oyatu types who never had
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Speaker 2: to say a word, but you knew that when the
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Speaker 2: lights were on and even when it was a hard
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Speaker 2: period in practice, that guy was going to be a
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Speaker 2: problem if you didn't come full speed. Do you have
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Speaker 2: you identified who your physicality tone setters are, who are
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Speaker 2: like really carrying that torch for you on this team?
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Speaker 3: Yet that's still that's still coming. I mean, we've got
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Speaker 3: a bunch of physical football players. But it doesn't matter
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Speaker 3: how loud you are. You want energy, you want, but
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Speaker 3: it can't be fake. I can be loud and I
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Speaker 3: can get people juiced and pumped up, and then you
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Speaker 3: get the crap kicked out of you as the on
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. And it doesn't matter where we
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Speaker 3: have to be. You know, and I've always said this,
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Speaker 3: your offensive line and your defensive line day bring the weather,
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Speaker 3: and how they go we go is if you're just
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Speaker 3: getting dominated the line of scrimmage on either side of
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Speaker 3: the ball, it's going to be a rough day, tough sledding.
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Speaker 3: So it's getting the O line and the D line
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Speaker 3: in that mindset of you guys set the tone in
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Speaker 3: terms of that nasty mentality. And I feel like we're
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Speaker 3: making a ton of progress in that area. I love
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Speaker 3: what Jordan Gross and Alex Kirk you've been doing with
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Speaker 3: the offensive line, you know, okay and Luther with the
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Speaker 3: defensive line, it's getting very, very competitive. It's getting chippy.
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Speaker 3: You know, you have to be able to be competitive
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Speaker 3: and not combative, but you're always trying to push that
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Speaker 3: envelope a little bit. Because you can't have soft it
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Speaker 3: will be exposed. And the highest levels of competition, well
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Speaker 3: that's where it gets exposed the most. You know, you
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Speaker 3: may be able to get away with it when you're
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Speaker 3: facing less competition, but the better teams you go against,
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Speaker 3: that physicality is going to be exposed, for good or bad.
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Speaker 2: A lot of conversations surrounding the offensive line for obvious reasons.
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Speaker 2: You lose five starters, you got to replace some high
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Speaker 2: level guys that are hopefully going to have their names
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Speaker 2: called even in the first round of this upcoming NFL draft.
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Speaker 2: And I've had the opportunity to talk to some of
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Speaker 2: your offensive linemen to try to pick the brain of
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Speaker 2: your assistant coaches. And we talked with Jordan Gross, not
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Speaker 2: sure not long after you hired him about you know,
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Speaker 2: how you how you make up a gap in such
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Speaker 2: an important position group. The interesting dynamic for me is
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Speaker 2: that you have a lot of guys who have played
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Speaker 2: a lot of reps.
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Speaker 5: And I know it's different when you're a starter.
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Speaker 2: They weren't starter reps in most cases, but a lot
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Speaker 2: of your guys are maybe first year starters, but with
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Speaker 2: like a ton of game snaps. And I asked Zaraway
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Speaker 2: Williams the other day, if you know there was a
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Speaker 2: sense of like, yeah, we're new starters, but we have
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Speaker 2: paid our dues or I individually maybe have paid my dues.
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Speaker 2: Does that change the dynamic at all with this offensive
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Speaker 2: line battle?
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Speaker 3: You definitely want guys with experience that have played on
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Speaker 3: game day under the lights, but we're focused a whole
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Speaker 3: lot more on becoming who we need to become in
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Speaker 3: the trenches. The you know, what makes a great offensive line? Expectations,
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Speaker 3: all that stuff, star rankings, that crap means nothing. What
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Speaker 3: matters is where or where they strong, where they deficient,
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Speaker 3: and how can we get them where we need them.
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Speaker 3: You know, if you want to be able to push
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Speaker 3: weight on the football field, you got to be able
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Speaker 3: to push weight in the weight room. And so how
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Speaker 3: do they attack the weight room? And we saw awesome
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Speaker 3: gains this off season and the weight room from those guys,
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Speaker 3: and you know they're they're putting on the right type
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Speaker 3: of weight. You know, their lean muscle masses and their
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Speaker 3: body makeup is much better than it was heading into
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Speaker 3: the season. So Jordan and Alex, our strength staff, our
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Speaker 3: nutrition staff, it takes the entire program to build up
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Speaker 3: a player, and that's what we've done and we're seeing
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Speaker 3: progress every single practice. But you know that everyone knows
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Speaker 3: they're competing all the way up. The only depth chart
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Speaker 3: that matters is you know, once we get the week one,
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Speaker 3: you know, preparing.
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Speaker 5: For Ida Hose.
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Speaker 3: So that's the only thing that we're telling those guys
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Speaker 3: is you just keep competing, keep getting that feedback as
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Speaker 3: to where you can improve, where you need to get better.
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Speaker 3: And uh, you know, with our with our culture, be
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Speaker 3: tenaciously persistent in pursuit of elite. Your behavior will tell
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Speaker 3: me everything I need to know about what your goals are,
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Speaker 3: about what matters to you, because you talking really mean,
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Speaker 3: it doesn't do much.
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Speaker 2: Morgan Scalley's our guest here, head coach of Utah football
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Speaker 2: on the Shot o'condlell show. You mentioned something similar in
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Speaker 2: Tuesday's media availability, like, Hey, we'll worry about the depth
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Speaker 2: chart when we get to week one, and I had
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Speaker 2: an immense appreciation for that sentiment because it feels like
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Speaker 2: that's where the players are at too, like the guys.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like guys know, yeah, you and the
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Speaker 2: media are not going to get a depth chart. But
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Speaker 2: I know my place, I know exactly how many reps
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Speaker 2: I'm going to get, I know what's been promised to me.
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Speaker 2: I know that I'm the starter, and I know that
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Speaker 2: position battles are sometimes overplayed. But it would appear that
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Speaker 2: you have created an atmosphere up there where everyone does
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Speaker 2: feel like they're competing for their job right now, even
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Speaker 2: guys with returning starter type experience.
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Speaker 5: Is that deliberate?
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Speaker 3: I don't know. You try and recruit and develop, and
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Speaker 3: you try and recruit and enough that competitions a byproduct
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Speaker 3: of having a bunch of good football players. You know,
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Speaker 3: what we are focus is on the feedback. Coaches are
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Speaker 3: to give players clarity, accountability, and support. Be very clear
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Speaker 3: about what you're asking your players to do. Don't yell
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Speaker 3: at them for something that you haven't really taught or
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Speaker 3: coach them to do, because you get a lot of that.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes people trying to save face. So be very clear
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Speaker 3: about what you're asking of them, hold them accountable to it,
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Speaker 3: don't don't let them get away with counterculture behavior. And
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Speaker 3: then you know, give be on the cutting edge of
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Speaker 3: giving them all the support you can give them, whether
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Speaker 3: that's drill work, whether that's you know, cutups, whatever that is.
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Speaker 3: They need to feel like you're doing everything you can
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Speaker 3: to make them elite. And then that accountability piece. All
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Speaker 3: that is is feedback. And it can't just be a
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Speaker 3: once a year deal. It's got to be an everyday deal,
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Speaker 3: so that you know, if their parents are hey, what
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Speaker 3: were you in, you know, in the room, and are
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Speaker 3: you playing? Well, yeah, I am, and here's why. No,
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Speaker 3: I'm not. Here's why. It's if they're not understanding why
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Speaker 3: they're not getting reps, that's an issue because that means
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Speaker 3: that feedback's not happening. So we just tell our guys, hey,
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Speaker 3: seek feedback. You know, you're going to know why you're
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Speaker 3: getting reps, why you're not getting reps, what you need
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Speaker 3: to do to get more reps. That is a feedback thing.
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Speaker 3: And that's all coaching. And so I think our coaches
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Speaker 3: do a really good job of helping our guys understand
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Speaker 3: what it takes to be elite, and and we're getting
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Speaker 3: there day by day with the behaviors that we're asking
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Speaker 3: from our guys.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how much you've talked about this already,
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Speaker 2: so forgive me if you've already explained it. But in
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Speaker 2: the media availability, we get it seems like you have
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Speaker 2: sometimes the offense is cheering for the offense and sometimes
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Speaker 2: the offense is cheering for the defense when you're in
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Speaker 2: these team periods and I don't know what the competition
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Speaker 2: structure is like, or if someone's got a run extra
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Speaker 2: on a win or a loss. But like I was
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Speaker 2: out there the other day and I was like, wait
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Speaker 2: a second, I think the defense just cheered for an
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Speaker 2: offensive touchdown And that doesn't make a ton of sense intuitively,
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Speaker 2: Am I misreading what's going on there?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's nothing more than trying to simulate in an
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Speaker 3: environment where it's everyone against you. You know, in a
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Speaker 3: way environment where your offensive defense are all cheering for
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Speaker 3: one side of the ball, and the eleven that are
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Speaker 3: on the offensee side of the ball, you know no
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Speaker 3: one's cheering for them. Okay, So in in a way environment,
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Speaker 3: you know, very similar. It's you against the entire stadium.
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Speaker 3: So it's just trying to get a little bit more
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Speaker 3: of that in what we're doing.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I like that. That's cool.
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Speaker 2: If you had to characterize, relative to your expectations, whether
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Speaker 2: or not your offense is on schedule, ahead of schedule,
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Speaker 2: behind schedule, would you be able to give me a characterization.
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Speaker 3: I would say, our offense is on schedule and our
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Speaker 3: defense is on schedule. You know, and and primarily if
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Speaker 3: you talk to the coordinators, it is a behavior first scheme. Second,
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Speaker 3: are we great the behaviors that make you know great
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Speaker 3: offensive lineman and defensive linemen? Are we practicing inside hands,
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Speaker 3: vertical average? Are we breaking driving the right way? It's
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Speaker 3: it's it's behavior over scheme and uh and never the
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Speaker 3: opposite or the if all you're worried about is install, install, install, install,
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Speaker 3: But then people aren't going to be getting great at
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Speaker 3: what make good football players. So that's what I'm pleased
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Speaker 3: with is the culture is showing up and improving every
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Speaker 3: single day and that we're not trying to get too cute.
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Speaker 2: You're probably gonna get sick of questions about, you know,
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Speaker 2: your firsts because you are a first time head coach,
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Speaker 2: even though you've been coaching and you've been here for
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Speaker 2: your entire career. But does it feel like you thought
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Speaker 2: it was gonna feel running through your first spring camp?
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Speaker 2: Does does the workload? Is it kind of close to
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Speaker 2: how you expected it to be? You took this job,
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Speaker 2: you got your first win in the bowl game, You've
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Speaker 2: been preparing for it for a long time. Now that
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Speaker 2: you've settled into it a little bit and you're really
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Speaker 2: in the meat and potatoes of developing this team, how
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Speaker 2: does it compare to what you thought it.
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Speaker 5: Was going to be.
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Speaker 3: I miss having a position group to coach, you know,
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Speaker 3: but I also enjoy going from a position to position,
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Speaker 3: just giving feedback along the way, So I you know,
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Speaker 3: I think I mentioned early on it gets it can
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Speaker 3: be boring just not having a group to always be coaching.
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Speaker 3: But you just ma can sure that the periods are
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Speaker 3: on correctly, that everyone's moving around, and and the how
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Speaker 3: we do things is what you want. So I'm getting
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Speaker 3: more used to that. I don't like to hover. I
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Speaker 3: don't like to I just like to observe and and
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Speaker 3: and give coaches tips, give players tips along the way.
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Speaker 3: But as long as you know our coaches are coaching
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Speaker 3: and the cultures what it needs to be. Uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm just a fan, just helping out where I can.
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Speaker 3: But but you know, the majority of stuff I give
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Speaker 3: is is after watching film in terms of feedback, stuff
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Speaker 3: like that, it's a lot more managing than it is coaching.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that.
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Speaker 2: Well, I like what I have seen of your leadership style.
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Speaker 2: I could envision you being a manager here at the
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Speaker 2: radio station, or at the costco down town, or for
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Speaker 2: a fortune five hundred company. But when I hear you
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Speaker 2: say it's a lot more managing the coaching. Is that
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Speaker 2: a pejorative? Are you like, I don't want to be
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Speaker 2: the manager. I want to be the coach.
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Speaker 5: Is it like, are you enjoying that I.
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Speaker 3: Love what I do? I'm not gonna I absolutely love it.
21:17
Speaker 3: Are there aspects that that I miss about being a coordinator?
21:22
Speaker 3: You bet? Are there aspects I miss about being a
21:25
Speaker 3: position coach, one hundred percent. But you know, there's also
21:30
Speaker 3: a lot of things that I've got gained on my
21:33
Speaker 3: plate that that I'm enjoying that I appreciate about the job.
21:38
Speaker 3: And just the connection with everyone in the building has
21:45
Speaker 3: been awesome. Everyone pulling the same direction and talking our
21:50
Speaker 3: culture using the same language, the everyone pulling the same direction,
21:56
Speaker 3: the just the imprint you have on the different areas
22:01
Speaker 3: in the facility that you hadn't had before. That's that's
22:06
Speaker 3: what I'm having a blast with.
22:08
Speaker 2: How many times has Coach mcgiven dialed up something that
22:12
Speaker 2: scores a touchdown and you have to go over to
22:14
Speaker 2: Colton Swan and be like, if I was calling the defense,
22:17
Speaker 2: that wouldn't happened.
22:18
Speaker 3: Oh, never, never. But what I have to do is
22:21
Speaker 3: keep reassuring Swan that I'm not let you know, oh,
22:25
Speaker 3: he's over there giving him all our our tendencies, and
22:28
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, dude, come on now, you know.
22:32
Speaker 3: But there are days like it's like a scally play
22:36
Speaker 3: of the day that I'll give him a given and
22:39
Speaker 3: that he'll dial up and you'll see me getting giddy
22:44
Speaker 3: when it has success, and Swann to look over at
22:47
Speaker 3: me and give me that face.
22:50
Speaker 5: We uh.
22:51
Speaker 2: We talked to Byrd after practice and I asked him, Hey,
22:54
Speaker 2: what what defender is causing you the most problems right now?
22:58
Speaker 2: And I thought he was gonna tell me one of
23:00
Speaker 2: his teammates or a couple of his teammates, and he said, Man,
23:03
Speaker 2: it's Swan. He is throwing everything at me right now,
23:07
Speaker 2: and that he's a young player. He's still you know,
23:10
Speaker 2: growing into whatever his role is going to be. But
23:13
Speaker 2: at least in his perspective, it's like the governor, Chip
23:17
Speaker 2: is off the defense. You're not doing him any favors
23:20
Speaker 2: when it comes to making sure he's got easy looks.
23:23
Speaker 5: Is that how it's playing out?
23:25
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the more of that then the easier it
23:28
Speaker 3: is for Bird and he gets no situations that people
23:30
Speaker 3: aren't as aggressive or they aren't showing, you know, the
23:35
Speaker 3: pressure that we that we show, and so I'm all
23:39
Speaker 3: for it. We get to the threes and down the
23:43
Speaker 3: line guys on our Saturday last week and Swan's briefing
23:50
Speaker 3: seven man pressure like you are you are showing no
23:54
Speaker 3: mercy to these young quarterbacks anyway. It's probably a little
23:58
Speaker 3: bit of me too, just loving it. But anyway, it
24:04
Speaker 3: makes them better for sure.
24:08
Speaker 2: So you've got this two quarterback situation, two great quarterbacks
24:14
Speaker 2: on the roster, and I know you've asked about it
24:16
Speaker 2: a lot, and I don't know you. You know, just
24:18
Speaker 2: the other day you were asked like, how did you
24:20
Speaker 2: make that happen? It's like a faith restoring thing in
24:25
Speaker 2: the state of college football, in the mindset of young
24:28
Speaker 2: athletes these days, to have somebody like Devin dan Pierre
24:33
Speaker 2: come back, and also to have somebody like Bird Fickland
24:37
Speaker 2: come back, especially when there is coaching turnover and there
24:40
Speaker 2: is a change potentially at least an adjustment in the
24:44
Speaker 2: culture and things like that. And I think it's a
24:46
Speaker 2: testament to you. It's also a testament to the character
24:49
Speaker 2: of those young men and the teammates around them that
24:52
Speaker 2: made them believe that this was the best situation for them.
24:55
Speaker 2: And I know it's belaboring a point that probably has
24:58
Speaker 2: already been made, but man, it's an It's such an
25:01
Speaker 2: interesting thing in the modern context of the transfer portal
25:05
Speaker 2: and nil offers, because we know they had other chances
25:09
Speaker 2: and they still decided to do this and to do
25:11
Speaker 2: it together.
25:12
Speaker 5: It's pretty remarkable, it is.
25:16
Speaker 3: And I'm you know, I'll be the first to tell you.
25:20
Speaker 3: It was making sure that we did everything we could
25:23
Speaker 3: to help them understand how valuable they were to us.
25:27
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of things that came together to
25:30
Speaker 3: make that happen. You know, the fact that we've got
25:33
Speaker 3: an unbelievable fan base that they're they're comfortable here, they
25:38
Speaker 3: know the personnel getting them with mcgiven and Gunderson and
25:44
Speaker 3: going over this new offense and what it was going
25:48
Speaker 3: to look like, how it was going to utilize their strengths.
25:50
Speaker 3: The fact that those two have a great relationship, the
25:53
Speaker 3: fact that they are a couple of years apart, I
25:55
Speaker 3: mean truthfully also helps out there knowing Bird, knowing that
25:59
Speaker 3: the that there is a very distinct, strong, you know,
26:04
Speaker 3: future for him as the starter, and and and also
26:08
Speaker 3: for them to be able to know, hey, we want
26:10
Speaker 3: to utilize your strengths together. I mean, there's some things
26:13
Speaker 3: that we're going to be doing this year that are
26:14
Speaker 3: a lot of fun that you know where you know Burn,
26:19
Speaker 3: I think primarily when we utilized him last year, outside
26:23
Speaker 3: of him starting that the one game because of Devin's injury,
26:27
Speaker 3: it was more of a gimmick deal, and he was,
26:32
Speaker 3: you know, running the ball more than throwing the ball.
26:35
Speaker 3: Like he he has progressed so much in his you know,
26:41
Speaker 3: mechanics and throwing the ball, his read progression. So we
26:46
Speaker 3: want to be able to utilize both of these guys'
26:49
Speaker 3: strengths and and also caused defenses a lot of issues,
26:55
Speaker 3: and so we're very blessed to have both those guys
26:59
Speaker 3: love this place, love this university, and love how we're
27:02
Speaker 3: going to use them in this offense.
27:04
Speaker 2: Just a couple more questions here with Utah football head
27:06
Speaker 2: coach Morgan Scally on the Sean O'Connell Show. Are there
27:10
Speaker 2: any out of nowhere guys that we're going to have
27:13
Speaker 2: to learn their names? It's been encouraging to hear you say,
27:16
Speaker 2: oh man, pray the progress, but we've seen him. We
27:20
Speaker 2: know what he's capable of at his best. Creed Widmore
27:23
Speaker 2: is doing really great things. Are there any like true
27:26
Speaker 2: newcomers that we have not seen yet that we're going
27:29
Speaker 2: to be like?
27:30
Speaker 5: Wow, based on the progress you've seen in the spring.
27:33
Speaker 3: I'm I love Ricky Johnson, the wide resiter transfer from
27:40
Speaker 3: Misissippi State. Love what he brings to the table. Will
27:44
Speaker 3: Money is recovering from an injury. But the tight end
27:50
Speaker 3: spot he transferred from Oklahoma State. He was showing some
27:54
Speaker 3: unbelievable things, you know, in the offseason, but I had
28:01
Speaker 3: to clean some stuff up. So I'm excited for Will Money.
28:04
Speaker 3: You know, you know Benny at the at the tight
28:06
Speaker 3: end spot. As well. I mean, both those guys are
28:10
Speaker 3: huge ads on the defensive side of the ball. I
28:14
Speaker 3: love Elijah Reid what he's bringing to the table, James
28:17
Speaker 3: Shenall at the corner spot. There's a lot of new guys.
28:19
Speaker 3: You're going to see that Ethan Day, you know, Giro
28:24
Speaker 3: Moa at the defensive tackle spot. So a lot of
28:28
Speaker 3: guys I'm excited about, fired up about that are I
28:31
Speaker 3: know our fans are going to be excited about it.
28:34
Speaker 3: Seems like from year to year you lose guys and
28:38
Speaker 3: it's like, man, how are we going to be? How
28:39
Speaker 3: we're gonna And I continued to talk about last year,
28:44
Speaker 3: it's like people didn't, you know, know too much about
28:48
Speaker 3: John Henry Daily, people didn't know too much about Joan
28:50
Speaker 3: Ola and some of these guys that did a lot
28:53
Speaker 3: of good things for us on the defensive side of
28:54
Speaker 3: the ball. And you know that's going to continue to
28:59
Speaker 3: show up, maybe not as much in the transfer portal. Obviously.
29:03
Speaker 3: This year was an exception because you had staff go,
29:07
Speaker 3: you had players you know, go with them and stuff
29:09
Speaker 3: like that. But that's our job is to recruit and
29:14
Speaker 3: develop into and to get these guys ready to plug
29:19
Speaker 3: and play. And we're going to continue to do that
29:23
Speaker 3: at an elite level. And that's what I'm excited for
29:25
Speaker 3: our fans to be able to see these new guys
29:27
Speaker 3: and what they bring to the table.
29:30
Speaker 5: All right, last thing before I let you go.
29:32
Speaker 2: There's a new model that it seems to be gaining
29:35
Speaker 2: some traction on eligibility and maybe something that could potentially
29:40
Speaker 2: help the state of things in college football. And what's
29:43
Speaker 2: being proposed is that, aside from church service or military
29:48
Speaker 2: service or maternity leave, which is not a thing for
29:51
Speaker 2: football players, you have from the time you graduate high
29:55
Speaker 2: school and enroll in college, you've got five years to
29:59
Speaker 2: play five years regardless of medical situations. There's not going
30:03
Speaker 2: to be exceptions granted, and you can transfer one time.
30:08
Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts on that potential model.
30:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. You know, the statistics will tell you.
30:21
Speaker 3: I mean in terms of the transferring statistics in the draft. Right,
30:28
Speaker 3: you go look at your early round draft picks and
30:33
Speaker 3: how many times they transferred, and I think it's I mean,
30:38
Speaker 3: did the study. It's like on the offensive line, it's
30:40
Speaker 3: like eighty percent of your draft picks, what rounds one
30:45
Speaker 3: through three, either state, you know, stayed at one place
30:49
Speaker 3: the entire time, or transferred one time, and then it's
30:54
Speaker 3: like you have to determine the amount you're losing on
30:59
Speaker 3: average by transferring, you know, more than one time, and
31:05
Speaker 3: the drop off is interestingly significant enough where it's like, man,
31:11
Speaker 3: I really better think about, you know, the amount of
31:15
Speaker 3: transfers that are occurring in my career and what that's
31:20
Speaker 3: doing to my projection. And because you just you have
31:26
Speaker 3: to learn new schemes and you new terminology, and it's
31:30
Speaker 3: new coaching, and you're having to you know, you you
31:34
Speaker 3: may end up stunting your development. Uh, in the process
31:39
Speaker 3: of transferring for for more immediate instant money, but ultimately
31:45
Speaker 3: losing money long term. So it's it's it's the big picture.
31:51
Speaker 3: And so with the one transfer rule, I really think
31:55
Speaker 3: that benefits the player and also benefits the school.
32:00
Speaker 2: One more question, UH, you're the twenty the twenty two
32:03
Speaker 2: for you, the twenty two for your fan day that
32:08
Speaker 2: you have coming up next weekend. UH, fans get to
32:12
Speaker 2: come out to the field house, meet and greet the players,
32:15
Speaker 2: meet and greet you. What has the player reaction been
32:18
Speaker 2: to this rather than a spring game.
32:22
Speaker 3: Uh, I haven't really asked, you know, I think they're
32:27
Speaker 3: just excited that they get to progress. You know, there's
32:32
Speaker 3: a lot of there's a lot of guys that don't
32:34
Speaker 3: that didn't want to play in the spring game. You
32:37
Speaker 3: know from from years previous, it's like, okay, you're playing
32:40
Speaker 3: the screen.
32:40
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, relate that was by the way, that's always
32:46
Speaker 5: the starters, those are the good players.
32:48
Speaker 2: The scrubs were just like I get to play for once.
32:50
Speaker 2: Let's go well yeah.
32:52
Speaker 3: But but but everyone, you know, it's like everyone thinks
32:54
Speaker 3: they're a starter too, really, and then and then you
32:58
Speaker 3: dumb everything down and the events it has to play
33:01
Speaker 3: cover too the entire time, and you can't hit the
33:03
Speaker 3: court court. It's like, I'd rather have a fifteenth practice
33:08
Speaker 3: where we can actually improve and get better the things
33:11
Speaker 3: that we need to improve and get better on. And yes,
33:15
Speaker 3: I get it. We love our fans and we want
33:17
Speaker 3: our fans to be excited about our team and our players,
33:20
Speaker 3: but we do them at the service by not taking
33:22
Speaker 3: advantage of every single practice to improve and get better
33:25
Speaker 3: and get our guys ready for the season. And we
33:29
Speaker 3: do want to have the spam BESK because I want
33:31
Speaker 3: our fans to meet these guys and see them face
33:34
Speaker 3: to face and get autographs and you know, for our
33:38
Speaker 3: coaches to be there and it's going to be a
33:41
Speaker 3: fun day and I but again you know the reason
33:45
Speaker 3: for it is definite to definitely use that fifteenth practice
33:50
Speaker 3: for our guys to continue improve and get better and
33:55
Speaker 3: where we need to get better.
33:58
Speaker 2: I know your time is incredible, valuable, and I appreciate
34:01
Speaker 2: you giving me so much of.
34:02
Speaker 5: It today, Morgan, thank you. We'll see you soon. You
34:05
Speaker 5: got it.
34:06
Speaker 3: Appreciate you have a good one. We'll see.
34:08
Speaker 2: That's Morgan Scaley, head football coach at the University of Utah,
34:13
Speaker 2: putting a couple more practices in and then springball will
34:16
Speaker 2: be done. Then he'll have his guys go and put
34:20
Speaker 2: on a bunch of weight or take off some weight
34:22
Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be during the summer, and
34:26
Speaker 2: you're four and a half months away from seeing what
34:29
Speaker 2: the Utah football product looks like with him at the
34:32
Speaker 2: Helm permanently officially, big thanks to Morgan and to Junk
34:39
Speaker 2: for making that happen for us today. All Right, Gordy
34:42
Speaker 2: Chies is here in studio with us. He's been waiting
34:44
Speaker 2: patiently and I've been waiting somewhat patiently to pick his
34:48
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34:51
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Speaker 6: He's out.
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36:00
Speaker 2: How are you, sir Sean? I'm doing well. Thank you.
36:04
Speaker 2: Lakers Warriors tonight right here on ESPN seven hundred and
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36:09
Speaker 5: How interesting are the Lakers for you? Right now?
36:12
Speaker 2: With Lebron in his forties having to carry much more
36:15
Speaker 2: of this load.
36:15
Speaker 7: Very interesting. And also it's Steph Curry trying to get
36:19
Speaker 7: some more rhythm with his teammates. And so the Lakers
36:23
Speaker 7: point of view is that they're the fourth seed, tied
36:26
Speaker 7: with the Rockets at fifty and twenty nine, and they
36:30
Speaker 7: have to win this game. Could they rather play They
36:32
Speaker 7: rather play the Rockets. They'd rather play the Rockets in
36:37
Speaker 7: the first the Rockets in the first round with the
36:39
Speaker 7: home court advantage. And so the Nuggets are right ahead
36:42
Speaker 7: of them fifty two and twenty eight. So three play
36:45
Speaker 7: six in the players four plays five. So tonight's game
36:48
Speaker 7: against the Warriors, it does matter. For the Warriors point
36:50
Speaker 7: of view, they're locked into the tenth seat. Their their
36:54
Speaker 7: rallying cry right now is they try to get some
36:56
Speaker 7: team rhythm. And the question is always philosophical. As a
37:01
Speaker 7: ten seed, they got to play two road games to
37:04
Speaker 7: get into the playoffs. It's gonna be probably against definitely
37:08
Speaker 7: against the Blazers, which they could win. And then can
37:11
Speaker 7: they beat the winner the loser of the Suns versus
37:14
Speaker 7: the Clippers, And I say, Sean, they can, So don't
37:17
Speaker 7: count the Warriors out. Even though they're the tenth seed
37:20
Speaker 7: right now. So it's it's fascinating the teams that are
37:24
Speaker 7: trying to win. It does matter. And so just quickly,
37:29
Speaker 7: here would be the first round in the West.
37:31
Speaker 5: He would be there.
37:32
Speaker 7: Who they would play the thunder is the first seed
37:36
Speaker 7: would play the winner of the Suns versus Clippers. The
37:41
Speaker 7: second seed the Spurs would plays to me, would plays
37:47
Speaker 7: me the Sons and the Spurs who play there's the
37:51
Speaker 7: winner of the Suns and the Clippers, and the thunder
37:54
Speaker 7: would play the winner of the Blazers and the Warriors.
37:58
Speaker 5: All right, so the.
37:58
Speaker 7: Third seed would be the Nuggets versus the Tea Wolves.
38:01
Speaker 7: I mentioned also four versus five, Lakers versus Rossis. So
38:05
Speaker 7: it's going to be a really interesting Western Conference. And
38:07
Speaker 7: for Jazz point of view, they're the fourteenth tied with
38:11
Speaker 7: the Kings right now. They're trying to probably lose the
38:14
Speaker 7: last two games, showing they get a better odds to
38:18
Speaker 7: get the first pick. In jazz basketball, if you finish fourth,
38:22
Speaker 7: you have a twelve point five percent odds to get
38:25
Speaker 7: the first pick. If you finish fifth you have a
38:28
Speaker 7: ten point five percent odds. So the arts do actually
38:31
Speaker 7: switch slightly a little bit, you.
38:32
Speaker 5: Get a little bit better odds.
38:34
Speaker 2: More importantly, if you're in that three or that fourth
38:37
Speaker 2: worst team spot, you can't even there's no percentage that
38:42
Speaker 2: you can lose your pick to Oklahoma City.
38:44
Speaker 7: That's correct, Yeah, exactly. So the Jazz are picking in
38:48
Speaker 7: the lottery. The question is the lottery gods what number?
38:52
Speaker 7: And they'll be determined on ironically Mother's Day, which is
38:56
Speaker 7: May tenth. That's when draft lottery selection in order is announced,
39:02
Speaker 7: So it's on a Sunday night, and UH and Jazz,
39:05
Speaker 7: all the jazz fans, they're absolutely going to be anxious
39:08
Speaker 7: to see where it plays out because such showing there's
39:10
Speaker 7: such an interest in aj Deboncer.
39:13
Speaker 5: So the question is where does he go?
39:16
Speaker 7: Does he go to the Jazz, does he go some
39:18
Speaker 7: other does he go to Sacramento Kings, Does he go
39:20
Speaker 7: to the Wizards, the Paces, the Nets, or some outlier
39:24
Speaker 7: like last year when the Dallas Mavericks had had the
39:26
Speaker 7: tenth tenth pick got the first pick Cooper Flag.
39:31
Speaker 5: So that's a month away, and we talked about this
39:34
Speaker 5: the other day.
39:35
Speaker 2: There's not there's not a lot of definitive consensus on
39:40
Speaker 2: where anyone would go outside of those top one or
39:42
Speaker 2: two picks. If you're in the Utah jazz world right now,
39:46
Speaker 2: right and they're going to be drafting in the lottery,
39:50
Speaker 2: this is a deep draft. Even if you're not talking
39:53
Speaker 2: about aj Debonca, Darren Peterson, Cam Booser, this is a
39:57
Speaker 2: draft where you've got some I mean, if you you
40:00
Speaker 2: end up getting Braden Burry's from Arizona, there's some really
40:02
Speaker 2: nice things about him. I know that's a developmental prospect.
40:06
Speaker 2: But a month ahead of when this draft lottery happens,
40:11
Speaker 2: and the optimism is there that it'll work out well
40:14
Speaker 2: for the Utah Jazz. But even if it doesn't and
40:16
Speaker 2: you end up picking sixth or seventh, can you get
40:20
Speaker 2: someone at six or seven that improves this particular jazz
40:26
Speaker 2: roster in a meaningful way where when you turn the
40:30
Speaker 2: corner and you start actually competing next year, Yeah, that
40:34
Speaker 2: number six or seven pick is going to be part
40:36
Speaker 2: of that. Or is it only if you're in the
40:38
Speaker 2: top three that whoever you get is going to be
40:40
Speaker 2: part of it next year?
40:41
Speaker 1: No?
40:41
Speaker 7: Definitely, No, there was six, seven, eight, five, Well what
40:45
Speaker 7: a jazz pick. That guy will help the jazz. He'll
40:47
Speaker 7: be a younger guy usually who'll be nineteen years old
40:53
Speaker 7: like Ace Belly type. But they have talent and that
40:56
Speaker 7: player would that player would be in the lineup, probably
40:59
Speaker 7: off the bench start the season because the Jazz have Again,
41:02
Speaker 7: the Jazz have good players. When the Jazz are healthy,
41:06
Speaker 7: they play relatively well, especially offensively, So they're gonna get
41:11
Speaker 7: a good player in the draft. We left out one
41:13
Speaker 7: guy purposely. He's very good. He broke his wrists. He
41:16
Speaker 7: hasn't played for Carolina and that's part of the reason
41:18
Speaker 7: why that Carolina struggled at the end. They replaced the
41:22
Speaker 7: coach and now with the Michael Malone, it's Caleb Wilson.
41:25
Speaker 7: It's shown. It's this running four man. I did see
41:27
Speaker 7: him play live this year against BYU and he's very good.
41:31
Speaker 7: And so myself personally, if the Jazz don't get the
41:35
Speaker 7: bouncer or Darren Peterson or Cameron Boozer, if they took
41:39
Speaker 7: Caleb Wilson, I would be a static because this guy
41:42
Speaker 7: is a six' nine kangaroo jumper that can really, play
41:46
Speaker 7: and he has a wonderful all around game and his
41:49
Speaker 7: upside is, tremendous very similar To Ace.
41:52
Speaker 5: Bell you.
41:53
Speaker 7: Know, again for the listeners right, Now Ace belly turns
41:56
Speaker 7: twenty In. August so he's so. YOUNG i, mean so
42:00
Speaker 7: when you see you see that what he's done on the. Court,
42:03
Speaker 7: Ace these guys in the draft right, now they're coming,
42:07
Speaker 7: up they'll be very, similar if not more than A.
42:09
Speaker 7: Spelly and if, you if YOU xnjs fan are happy
42:12
Speaker 7: with A spelly number, five they would say, absolutely unequivocally, yes, yes.
42:17
Speaker 2: Very absolutely, yeah and that you go back to when
42:22
Speaker 2: it actually, happened and it was just. Devastation, Right oh my,
42:26
Speaker 2: gosh you're not going to Get Cooper. Flagg this is,
42:28
Speaker 2: terrible what a, bust what a waste of a tanking.
42:32
Speaker 2: Year and now none of us feel that way Because
42:35
Speaker 2: Ace bailey is clearly going to be an important player
42:38
Speaker 2: for this franchise in the foreseeable.
42:39
Speaker 5: Future, correct very.
42:40
Speaker 7: Much and he's got a he's got a winning, game
42:43
Speaker 7: though young and young means what he lacks the overall
42:46
Speaker 7: strength as far as upper body and, core but he'll develop.
42:50
Speaker 7: That but he has a winning. Game he plays to.
42:52
Speaker 7: Win he'll get his three point shot much more. Accurate
42:56
Speaker 7: he's got some bounce through his, game and he can
42:58
Speaker 7: create his own, shot and he's a good floor runner and,
43:01
Speaker 7: Defensively like all, guys they've got to improve and how
43:04
Speaker 7: to improved defensively by by dramatically upgrading your personal. Technique
43:10
Speaker 7: and THE, nba just like in THE, nfl showing, defensively
43:14
Speaker 7: technique is. Everything you've got to have, technique and even
43:18
Speaker 7: in elite players the slippage in their. Technique and that's
43:21
Speaker 7: why it's so important that you always say return to
43:24
Speaker 7: fund when in, doubt return to. Fundamentals you, know showing
43:27
Speaker 7: in any, sport just bending your, knees just bending your,
43:31
Speaker 7: knees and any, sport Including i'm showing in your career
43:35
Speaker 7: as a, fighter is that helps you why get leverage
43:38
Speaker 7: and maintain or established.
43:40
Speaker 5: Balance you're one hundred percent.
43:42
Speaker 2: Right AND i can't tell you how many times we've
43:45
Speaker 2: watched something like THE nfl scouting combine draft process and
43:51
Speaker 2: what do they, say especially with like pass, rushers especially
43:55
Speaker 2: with offensive, linemen the big body, Guys, oh he's got
43:58
Speaker 2: great knee, bend and you're it's, like of, course what
44:01
Speaker 2: do you mean great knee? Bend everyone bends their, knees
44:03
Speaker 2: but it's not. True not everyone. Does not every athlete
44:06
Speaker 2: plays at the level they're supposed to with that knee.
44:09
Speaker 2: Bend so it's hearing you say that in the basketball.
44:13
Speaker 2: Context that's what it stirs for. Me all those draft.
44:16
Speaker 2: Animals oh, man great knee bend on this. Guy he's six,'
44:19
Speaker 2: six he's three hundred and. Eighty pounds but look how
44:22
Speaker 2: much knee bend, he's got.
44:24
Speaker 7: Well said and the reason why because you can change
44:27
Speaker 7: direction by, doing that and then football get off, the
44:29
Speaker 7: ball and basketball rotate to, the ball and those. Quick
44:33
Speaker 7: bursts these are all things that sounds. So simple, All
44:36
Speaker 7: right so let's put it in context in about three
44:38
Speaker 7: weeks from now when DURING the, nba playoffs when so
44:42
Speaker 7: makes a, corner three remember this or LISTENERS On espn radio,
44:46
Speaker 7: Seven hundred gordy said that part of the reason why
44:49
Speaker 7: the corner three opens, because one they got beat at
44:52
Speaker 7: the point of attack at, the ball which creates. Scrambled
44:55
Speaker 7: defense and probably the guy rotating showing didn't have his
44:58
Speaker 7: knees bent, to start and then he's upright when he
45:01
Speaker 7: get out he tried to recover to get out there second.
45:04
Speaker 7: Too late nice knowing you three.
45:06
Speaker 2: Point shot, All right i'm gonna try to stay on
45:09
Speaker 2: clock because We have gordy for the next forty five minutes, or.
45:12
Speaker 5: So so we'll take a quick. One here when we.
45:14
Speaker 2: Come Back The Oklahoma city thunder are once again the
45:19
Speaker 2: number one seed In. The west They Joined elite company
45:23
Speaker 2: by winning their conference top seed back to back to.
45:25
Speaker 2: Back years what does it mean in the grand? Or
45:28
Speaker 2: context We'll pick gordy's brain. About that It's the Sean
45:31
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45:57
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Speaker 2: His brain Patrick and Michelle From big willi's are also
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46:29
Speaker 8: it's marinated, flank steak sliced thin, mixed, greens, tomatoes onions a, black,
46:35
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46:41
Speaker 2: This, thing normally when you're talking about, a salad you're, not,
46:44
Speaker 2: like wow this smells, so good because salads are not
46:47
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46:48
Speaker 5: As this but this thing.
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46:54
Speaker 5: It off that's why it smells. So good it's. Really,
46:56
Speaker 5: DELICIOUS man i can't wait to dive into. This thing
47:01
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47:03
Speaker 2: Playoff basketball, we are by, the way your official home
47:06
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47:12
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47:15
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47:17
Speaker 2: games you'll have, It, all yes.
47:19
Speaker 5: We have all the games will be on.
47:21
Speaker 8: Our TVs we have nine in the, dining room so
47:24
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47:57
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47:59
Speaker 5: The drink specials and the. Lunch specials it's a wallet.
48:03
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48:05
Speaker 2: the drinks are absolutely, top notch you're not gonna walk
48:08
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48:10
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48:11
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48:11
Speaker 8: Months yeah we try to price things appropriately so you
48:14
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48:17
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48:21
Speaker 5: For them everything's.
48:22
Speaker 8: Priced Appropriately like sean said to where you're gonna want
48:26
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48:28
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48:30
Speaker 2: Coming in, All right i'm gonna put you on the
48:32
Speaker 2: spot about something Me. And gordy we're just talking about during,
48:36
Speaker 2: the Break The utah jazz are finishing off a tank
48:40
Speaker 2: and they're gonna draft in the lottery and after that
48:43
Speaker 2: we're gonna expect them. To, win Basically the mammoth in
48:47
Speaker 2: their second year of existence Here In Salt lake city
48:49
Speaker 2: are about to make. The playoffs you own a, sports
48:53
Speaker 2: bar so you know how many people are coming, in,
48:55
Speaker 2: saying hey turn on the, hockey game versus how many
48:57
Speaker 2: people are, coming, in hey.
48:58
Speaker 5: Turn on the.
48:59
Speaker 2: Jazz game has, this market whether it's temporarily or permanently,
49:03
Speaker 2: or whatever has this market Embraced the mammoth more Than
49:07
Speaker 2: the jazz.
49:08
Speaker 5: THIS year i just think.
49:09
Speaker 8: The fan base is so used to having. A winner
49:13
Speaker 8: like when we Were at Lumpy's, the jazz they were.
49:16
Speaker 8: Always winning people are always coming in to, watch GAMES
49:18
Speaker 8: and i think these last three years have just put
49:21
Speaker 8: a bad taste in. Their mouth and then this new
49:23
Speaker 8: product showed up and they started winning right off, the
49:26
Speaker 8: bat and it was an, easy, switch, like oh we'll
49:28
Speaker 8: just cheer for. These guys they're winning and it's so
49:31
Speaker 8: hard to Watch the jazz a lot of. THE time
49:34
Speaker 8: i think it was just an easy switch FOR people i.
49:36
Speaker 8: DON'T think i think they'll still cheer, for both but
49:39
Speaker 8: right now they're passionate about.
49:41
Speaker 2: THE mammoth i think that makes the. Most sense you
49:44
Speaker 2: just want, A, Winner Yeah big willie, Seventeen Seventeen. South main,
49:47
Speaker 2: incredible food. Incredible drinks if they don't have it, on
49:51
Speaker 2: draft then they got it in. The coolers and of
49:54
Speaker 2: course the pool haul is always. Top notch just don't
49:58
Speaker 2: try to hustle anyone. Over there you're not gonna win. Those, games.
50:01
Speaker 2: No don't don't get taken advantage of. It there it
50:04
Speaker 2: won't be fun for Your walle that will hurt. Your,
50:06
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50:10
Speaker 2: The law that's against. The law people Poker, on, sundays.
50:13
Speaker 8: Right yep we have Poker. On sundays how did they start?
50:16
Speaker 8: That game we normally start at. Six o'clock, this week
50:21
Speaker 8: they're gonna do it a twelve o'clock, game BECAUSE like i,
50:25
Speaker 8: said earlier we're Sponsoring The Wassatche roller derby's after party in.
50:28
Speaker 8: That tournament and then that that party starts it at,
50:31
Speaker 8: Six o'clock so we move poker to twelve just, this
50:33
Speaker 8: week but normally six.
50:35
Speaker 5: O'clock start so if you.
50:39
Speaker 2: Go down On this sunday at, dinner time there's gonna
50:41
Speaker 2: be a bunch of roller derby gals.
50:43
Speaker 8: In, there yeah come, support them cheer. Them on they're,
50:46
Speaker 8: super competitive. YOU know i don't know if you've ever been.
50:49
Speaker 5: To it. It's, awest yeah it's it's. Super awesome do.
50:52
Speaker 2: With that information what, you will all of you listening.
50:56
Speaker 2: Out there but if you gon'd have The big Willies on,
50:58
Speaker 2: sunday evening it'll be The roller.
51:01
Speaker 5: Derby party and that that sounds like a pretty.
51:03
Speaker 8: Good, time yeah those girls know how. To party let's
51:07
Speaker 8: just put it.
51:08
Speaker 5: THAT way i. Love, it well thank you as always
51:11
Speaker 5: for the.
51:11
Speaker 2: Hot lunch and by, The, way gordy he's so gracious
51:14
Speaker 2: Every time gordy's in here when the hot lunch comes
51:16
Speaker 2: IN and i, was, Like, hey gordy you want to
51:17
Speaker 2: have some? Of this and every time, he's, like no that's.
51:20
Speaker 2: For you and he doesn't make me feel bad about
51:23
Speaker 2: just being. A glutton he, Doesn't share.
51:25
Speaker 8: Gordy anyways you know that right even if you, Said
51:27
Speaker 8: yes i'd, like half he would. EAT it i, wouldn't,
51:30
Speaker 8: share really Hll poor james gets.
51:32
Speaker 5: Scraps.
51:33
Speaker 2: Yeah INTERESTING sometimes I let james like in the box and. It's,
51:37
Speaker 2: out yeah he can lick the dressing out of the
51:39
Speaker 2: Box when.
51:40
Speaker 5: I've done maybe use Me. For rocky, it's.
51:42
Speaker 2: Yeah it's like whatever whatever left over my, dogs get my.
51:47
Speaker 2: DOG gets i Should say james is also Eligible for
51:50
Speaker 2: He and rocky have to fight it out SOMETIMES when
51:52
Speaker 2: I bring rocky into the studio. With me thanks for
51:56
Speaker 2: coming in and for the hot always, all right we'll
51:59
Speaker 2: take a quick one here and then we'll get to
52:00
Speaker 2: that conversation we were going to Have About oklahoma city
52:03
Speaker 2: And A boston celtics team that. Is overachieving It's the Sean,
52:07
Speaker 2: O'Connell show espn seven ninety TWO.
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Speaker 5: One fm as.
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Speaker 1: You were Listening To the Sean O'Connell show From The
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Speaker 1: Murdoch hyundai STUDIO of espn seven hundred and ninety two
52:23
Speaker 1: to ONE, af am.
52:27
Speaker 5: Welcome back To the Sean. O'Connell show our number two On.
52:30
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Speaker 2: gordy we were we were talking before the hot lunch
52:43
Speaker 2: came in ABOUT well i wanted to Talk About oklahoma
52:47
Speaker 2: city back to back to back number one seeds earned
52:52
Speaker 2: In The. Western conference and there's plenty of basketball left.
52:56
Speaker 2: To play you can't crown. Anyone yet but the only
52:59
Speaker 2: teams that have also been the number one seed in
53:03
Speaker 2: their respective conferences three years in a row are the
53:07
Speaker 2: eighty four to Eighty Eight boston celtics, good team the
53:12
Speaker 2: eighty four To Ninety Los, angeles lakers.
53:17
Speaker 5: Ninety six to Ninety Eight.
53:18
Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls the lakers did it in the early oughts
53:24
Speaker 2: all the way to, twenty ten and the fifteen To
53:26
Speaker 2: Seventeen Golden, state warriors all teams that won multiple championships in.
53:32
Speaker 2: Those spans so are we Seeing An oklahoma city team
53:37
Speaker 2: that is poised to become well compared to the likes
53:41
Speaker 2: of THE squads i.
53:42
Speaker 7: Just, Mentioned, No, OKAY no i think this year is
53:50
Speaker 7: that as great as, they are it's hard to repeat
53:53
Speaker 7: in this.
53:54
Speaker 5: Modern era so they're.
53:57
Speaker 7: CERTAINLY capable i think things are going to happen in
54:00
Speaker 7: the playoffs that in, their world, maybe injury they don't,
54:04
Speaker 7: shoot straight or the other guys play absolutely great series against.
54:07
Speaker 5: Them to knock.
54:08
Speaker 7: Them Out and i'm leaning towards an upset With the nuggets. Beating,
54:14
Speaker 7: Them okay i'm leaning towards it potentially knocking off, ok,
54:20
Speaker 7: yeah again you know seven straight years now BEEN different
54:24
Speaker 7: nba championship and also, after that seven straight years showing
54:29
Speaker 7: the defending champion didn't didn't get didn't get past the.
54:31
Speaker 7: Second round so that's the metrics tell us right now
54:37
Speaker 7: in this.
54:38
Speaker 5: This era so.
54:39
Speaker 7: We'll see now if, you're thunder you don't believe that
54:41
Speaker 7: that we're gonna do. It again and also The upstart
54:44
Speaker 7: spurs are, playing great and so With the celts and
54:47
Speaker 7: So the pistons that those all, those teams and In,
54:51
Speaker 7: THE west i Like the nuggets only because how, they're
54:55
Speaker 7: structured the way. They play they play playoff basketball and
55:00
Speaker 7: regular season means they're more of a half, court team
55:03
Speaker 7: and in, playoff basketball that's what. It is every, possession
55:06
Speaker 7: matters and that's why That, the nuggets who but, DRAMATICALLY
55:10
Speaker 7: hurt i think they have a chance to get.
55:13
Speaker 5: An upset let's talk About the east for a brief.
55:16
Speaker 2: Second here you wanted to say something About The, boston
55:19
Speaker 2: celtics who are the three and a half.
55:21
Speaker 5: Games back.
55:22
Speaker 2: They're clinched obviously they got a nice playoff spot Right.
55:26
Speaker 5: Behind DETROIT but.
55:29
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of us for saw this
55:31
Speaker 2: Happening for boston at least not at this level.
55:34
Speaker 1: Very.
55:34
Speaker 7: Much yea so the reception was that it's going to
55:36
Speaker 7: be almost a gap year For the celts when they
55:40
Speaker 7: wait the return Of A, Jason tatum so their bookend
55:43
Speaker 7: forwards who are obstoually, their Foundation Meaning jason Tatum And,
55:48
Speaker 7: jalen brown that they're missing one of them because remember,
55:51
Speaker 7: Last Year jason tatum got hurt with a right torn
55:54
Speaker 7: achilles tendon and that Set the celtics back into playoffs,
55:58
Speaker 7: last year but also for, this season But the celts.
56:02
Speaker 7: Didn't cooperate Led By jalen brown And Also peyton Pritchard And,
56:08
Speaker 7: derek white they played sensational the whole year And, then
56:11
Speaker 7: tatum with, his diligence came back off. The injury most
56:15
Speaker 7: times it takes generally speaking ten months to, a year
56:18
Speaker 7: he came back. Much sooner he's played fifteen games this
56:21
Speaker 7: year For, The Celtics Meanie. Jason tatum he's averaging twenty
56:25
Speaker 7: one point eight points, per game nine point, eight rebounds
56:28
Speaker 7: five point one assist in thirty two minutes and that's
56:31
Speaker 7: been uplifting, for them and THAT'S why i think they're
56:35
Speaker 7: going to Win The eastern conference because they're they're they're
56:39
Speaker 7: first IN the nba showing. In defense So the celts
56:42
Speaker 7: number one in defense IN the nba and number two
56:45
Speaker 7: in the defense Is The. Okse thunder let's put It in.
56:49
Speaker 7: Jazz Basketball, the, jazz unfortunately are the worst team IN the,
56:53
Speaker 7: nba defensively ranked. Number thirty so if you want to
56:57
Speaker 7: do well in, the playoffs you've got to play defense
57:00
Speaker 7: vents in the. Regular season the last point About the
57:03
Speaker 7: celts Is That Cato nima Cato From, utah state the
57:11
Speaker 7: thirty nine pick of the draft back in twenty. Twenty
57:13
Speaker 7: one he's done a good job For. The celts he's
57:16
Speaker 7: averaging ten point three points per game and eight point,
57:19
Speaker 7: three rebounds And Now nick fussevich joining, the team he's rolls.
57:23
Speaker 7: Slightly LESSER but i can't go because of injuries and.
57:26
Speaker 7: Foul trouble cato's done a good job For. The celtics
57:30
Speaker 7: so if you're A Local Utah state, aggie fan you
57:33
Speaker 7: have somebody going to watch in.
57:34
Speaker 5: The Playoffs.
57:36
Speaker 2: Kate cunningham Back for detroit came back with a. Double
57:40
Speaker 2: double not quite a, triple double but a. DOUBLE double,
57:44
Speaker 2: i mean we talked, about him not so much as,
57:46
Speaker 2: of late but earlier in the season as a guy.
57:49
Speaker 5: Who you know might at least be IN an.
57:51
Speaker 2: Mvp conversation, THE injury i think kind of took him out.
57:54
Speaker 2: Of that but for his own, Team's Sake kate cunningham's
57:58
Speaker 2: presence With The, detroit pits what does it mean, for
58:00
Speaker 2: them especially this time?
58:02
Speaker 5: Of year huge because he has a.
58:06
Speaker 7: Winning game he's a six to six point guard that's
58:09
Speaker 7: pass happy and that he scores out of the offense
58:12
Speaker 7: with the rhythm of the flow. Of it and he
58:14
Speaker 7: gets another dimension that he's almost like an old school
58:18
Speaker 7: back down post up player as a. Point guard so
58:21
Speaker 7: when teams try to double team in the mid post
58:24
Speaker 7: because he's, so strong is that he's that the bet
58:27
Speaker 7: when the best pass IN the nba is now throwing as,
58:29
Speaker 7: sis dimes not a, driving kick but off what the post.
58:33
Speaker 7: Up situation so he gives them a huge benefit as
58:36
Speaker 7: far as doing that And the pistons this year they
58:41
Speaker 7: Won The. Central division it's the first time in eighteen
58:44
Speaker 7: years showing their division champions since two thousand, and eight
58:49
Speaker 7: and so they have it going. Right now and let's
58:52
Speaker 7: not forget About. The pistons the twenty three to twenty,
58:56
Speaker 7: fourth season they won fourteen games shown they were fourteen,
58:59
Speaker 7: and six and now two, years later with a different
59:03
Speaker 7: roster and, much healthy they have fifty. Eight wins so
59:06
Speaker 7: it's remarkable what they've Done the pistons as far as
59:10
Speaker 7: being that bad to suddenly being. That good, that's coaching that's,
59:15
Speaker 7: player development that's the that's that's the management of drafting the,
59:19
Speaker 7: right guys and just, generally speaking that everyone's working in
59:23
Speaker 7: harmony to try to get this.
59:24
Speaker 5: Thing DONE call. Nba champions swinging things back.
59:29
Speaker 2: To focus back To The utah jazz here finishing out
59:32
Speaker 2: a season where you know you're not making, the playoffs
59:35
Speaker 2: you're tanking for a. Lottery pick it's it's, working out
59:38
Speaker 2: it seems towards the end here uh in a way
59:41
Speaker 2: that is at least favorable for. The franchise, but uh
59:44
Speaker 2: in the in the final, few practices shoot arounds games
59:48
Speaker 2: after a season, like this what What will hardy and
59:51
Speaker 2: his staff emphasizing with this young group of.
59:53
Speaker 7: Trying to play the, right way and the young group
59:55
Speaker 7: Really Is. Cody Williams cody williams is the benefactor Truly And,
1:00:00
Speaker 7: bryce sensible both those guys where the main scoring options
1:00:07
Speaker 7: aren't playing for the last will say give it take
1:00:10
Speaker 7: the last twenty. Five games So Now cody williams has
1:00:13
Speaker 7: taken over one of those roles and he's done a
1:00:16
Speaker 7: good job as far as being consistent. And delivering so
1:00:20
Speaker 7: in the big Picture in april, right now he's averaging
1:00:23
Speaker 7: fifteen point eight points, per game five point, three rebounds
1:00:26
Speaker 7: and more, more importantly five point. Eight assists so which
1:00:29
Speaker 7: Means That cody williams when he has, the ball he
1:00:31
Speaker 7: makes quick decisions and makes.
1:00:33
Speaker 5: A play what's, THE play i.
1:00:35
Speaker 7: Don't know it could be a pull, Up jumper it
1:00:37
Speaker 7: could be a rainbow. Corner three it could be a,
1:00:40
Speaker 7: back down kick it out to someone for, an assist
1:00:43
Speaker 7: run the floor and. Scoring transition so he's done that
1:00:46
Speaker 7: and We know sensible that guy off. The bench he's
1:00:48
Speaker 7: a modern version of former Jazz Player. Jordan clarkson he's.
1:00:52
Speaker 7: Instant offense he's got a tremendous range, jump shot and
1:00:56
Speaker 7: you get the feeling there when he has the ball,
1:00:57
Speaker 7: on perimeter when he's feet, are said he can knock down.
1:01:00
Speaker 7: That shot so the last two games and the last
1:01:03
Speaker 7: few practices and shows alluding To the jazz played tomorrow
1:01:06
Speaker 7: night At The delta center seven thirty start Against The.
1:01:09
Speaker 7: Memphis grizzlies and they finished the Season on Sunday in
1:01:14
Speaker 7: la Versus, the lakers and if You're, the lakers you
1:01:18
Speaker 7: have to win. That game so it's gonna be an
1:01:20
Speaker 7: intense game From the lakers point. Of view From the
1:01:22
Speaker 7: jazz point, of view they're gonna try to play hard and,
1:01:25
Speaker 7: not cooperate but it's gonna. BE interesting i mentioned before About,
1:01:29
Speaker 7: the jazz but also About, the grizzlies meaning tomorrow night
1:01:33
Speaker 7: just a reference point that there's definitely a Flavor Of
1:01:37
Speaker 7: utah jazz basketball On. The grizzlies meaning remember back in the,
1:01:42
Speaker 7: Trading Deadline jaron jackson was traded To The utah Jazz
1:01:46
Speaker 7: and john contract which worked out well For the Jazz For,
1:01:50
Speaker 7: Walter Clayton, Taylor Hendricks kyle anderson who's now on The
1:01:55
Speaker 7: t wolves. Right now And So walter clayton is a
1:01:57
Speaker 7: quick reminder Of the jazz fans goes he's he was
1:02:02
Speaker 7: the pick last year For the jazz at number. Twenty,
1:02:04
Speaker 7: one Well the clayton's averaging nine point seven points per
1:02:07
Speaker 7: game and five point seven assists in twenty five minutes
1:02:13
Speaker 7: at age, twenty two so he's the starting point guard
1:02:16
Speaker 7: as we speak right Now Because john morant has been
1:02:19
Speaker 7: out the. Whole, Season Basically john rant For the grizzlies
1:02:22
Speaker 7: only played twenty games, this year so it set them.
1:02:26
Speaker 7: Back dramatically and they also The former Jazz Player taylor
1:02:29
Speaker 7: hendricks again age. Twenty two he's played in twenty six games.
1:02:33
Speaker 7: This year he's averaging ten point six points per game For,
1:02:36
Speaker 7: the grizzlies forty six point three, fielder percentage four point,
1:02:40
Speaker 7: seven rebounds and one point, Four steals so Again in
1:02:43
Speaker 7: grizzlies's point, of view Him And walter clayton are definitely
1:02:46
Speaker 7: part of. The future so interesting. About Injuries remember sewan
1:02:52
Speaker 7: last year that people forget That the grizzlies last season
1:02:58
Speaker 7: they were in the, play playoffs and people forget that what,
1:03:02
Speaker 7: they did so they went from being in the playoffs
1:03:05
Speaker 7: to now being, right now only having twenty. Five wins
1:03:09
Speaker 7: last season they lost To the thunder in the. First
1:03:12
Speaker 7: round they won forty eight games and finished thirty four
1:03:15
Speaker 7: as the.
1:03:16
Speaker 5: Eighth seed so there are playoff.
1:03:17
Speaker 7: Team injuries lest part of The Injuries, zach edy who's
1:03:21
Speaker 7: a very good. Young player so the Question of jazz
1:03:23
Speaker 7: basketball can Can the jazz frontcourt players outplay Out Muscle?
1:03:29
Speaker 7: Zach Edy zach edy got hurt to start the season
1:03:32
Speaker 7: only he's missed seventy one games. This year Sean So,
1:03:35
Speaker 7: zach edy this, big Guy And, john moran this unbelievable,
1:03:40
Speaker 7: talented scorer, though troubled has set Back the grizzlies as
1:03:44
Speaker 7: far as them. Being Successful zach edy thirteen point pointsby
1:03:48
Speaker 7: game and, eleven rebounds has missed only played eleven games.
1:03:51
Speaker 7: This season so that's Why the grizzlies In the thunder. Tomorrow,
1:03:54
Speaker 7: vs game someone has.
1:03:55
Speaker 2: To win shown when you talk about a team that
1:03:58
Speaker 2: goes from plague win playoff, squad two, non competitive.
1:04:06
Speaker 5: Non interesting.
1:04:08
Speaker 2: We know for the fan base that can get obnoxious
1:04:12
Speaker 2: for the players on the. Team watching, you know valuable
1:04:16
Speaker 2: pieces be, traded away a signal, that hey we're probably
1:04:20
Speaker 2: going to start. Rebuilding here how do those players? Manage
1:04:24
Speaker 2: it how do the coaches in that building? Manage, it
1:04:26
Speaker 2: well the.
1:04:27
Speaker 7: Players are saying that this is a great opportunity for
1:04:30
Speaker 7: me to play, out there and that's jazz right now
1:04:32
Speaker 7: for some of the YOUNG guys i mentioned Four Back
1:04:35
Speaker 7: cuddy williams and. Those, guys now with, that, said though
1:04:39
Speaker 7: you've got to be able to have a. Winning game
1:04:41
Speaker 7: so the coach, is evaluating even though you might have
1:04:45
Speaker 7: more chance, to offensively what are you doing defensively and
1:04:48
Speaker 7: what is some of the nuances that we talked about
1:04:50
Speaker 7: in practice for the last. Six months are you doing
1:04:53
Speaker 7: it in. A, game also you're trying to play well
1:04:57
Speaker 7: that other teams are looking at you and that they
1:05:00
Speaker 7: might sign you as far as a free agent or trade,
1:05:03
Speaker 7: for you or if you're being waived by your, present
1:05:06
Speaker 7: team that you get a fighting chance to make a Roster.
1:05:09
Speaker 7: Next october so IN, THE nba i call. It this
1:05:13
Speaker 7: every day there's. Moving parts someone's, moving someplace whether it's,
1:05:16
Speaker 7: playing time whether it's, not playing whether it's, being traded
1:05:20
Speaker 7: whether it's unfortunate an injury or whether it come back.
1:05:22
Speaker 7: From injury IT'S always nba is always, in motion every.
1:05:27
Speaker 7: Single day and the biggest thing right now for, these
1:05:30
Speaker 7: teams for the teams in the play the play in
1:05:33
Speaker 7: tournament is that can they advance they make, The playoffs
1:05:37
Speaker 7: meaning what can, the seventh eighth or ninth seed win
1:05:42
Speaker 7: games to get to the playoffs and get? An upset
1:05:45
Speaker 7: and can the the first and? Second seed can they
1:05:48
Speaker 7: want hold up everybody and they eventually they play FOR The,
1:05:51
Speaker 7: nba finals which we know is. Absolutely Exciting.
1:05:56
Speaker 2: Gorda chase is our guest here for a few more
1:05:57
Speaker 2: minutes On the sean, O'Connell Show. Wemby watch Victor wembin
1:06:02
Speaker 2: yama needs twenty more minutes. This season needs to play
1:06:05
Speaker 2: twenty minutes in a game in one of the final,
1:06:07
Speaker 2: two games And it's Dallas on friday And then Denver.
1:06:12
Speaker 2: On sunday both of those are home games For. The
1:06:15
Speaker 2: spurs we already talked About. On, tuesday yeah they're gonna
1:06:19
Speaker 2: let him play in one of. These things, Which, one
1:06:22
Speaker 2: gord if you're choosing to if you're picking one of
1:06:25
Speaker 2: those games To let Victor wemen yama play like, a
1:06:28
Speaker 2: half which game are you.
1:06:30
Speaker 5: Going to put? Him? In? Dallas, Okay yeah, Dallas.
1:06:33
Speaker 7: Absolutely, dallas yeah Playing against dallas versus Playing against valacunis
1:06:39
Speaker 7: at the backup Center for Denver And.
1:06:40
Speaker 2: NIKOLAI jokic i got so mad the other night when
1:06:44
Speaker 2: we were At that jazz Game and valanciunas came in
1:06:48
Speaker 2: and he.
1:06:48
Speaker 5: Just starts bullying.
1:06:49
Speaker 2: People around, AND look i understand that's his presence IN,
1:06:53
Speaker 2: the nba and good for him figuring out his role
1:06:56
Speaker 2: and finding a way to stay on rosters. And stuff
1:06:58
Speaker 2: the reason it made me upset was Because The utah
1:07:02
Speaker 2: jazz and they were playing a pretty small lineup, that
1:07:05
Speaker 2: night as they're tanking their, lives away But The utah
1:07:08
Speaker 2: jazz have no. Physical response there's no enforcer to answer,
1:07:13
Speaker 2: for that to, say no we're not going to get
1:07:16
Speaker 2: pushed around by this big, bearded freak and they just
1:07:19
Speaker 2: kind of. Took it and that that's hard for somebody
1:07:22
Speaker 2: like me, to watch especially when there's, you know you're
1:07:25
Speaker 2: not trying to win, the game at least lose with,
1:07:27
Speaker 2: some dignity not Letting This eastern european guy.
1:07:31
Speaker 7: Pummel, you, Agreed absolutely so they basically in that game
1:07:35
Speaker 7: they got punked By Backup sena fellachiunis Now in Finnas To,
1:07:41
Speaker 7: kyle philipowski, he battled but he's not physically able to.
1:07:45
Speaker 5: Do.
1:07:45
Speaker 7: It now next year in, jazz basketball They'll Be. Jared
1:07:47
Speaker 7: jackson and next year in, jazz basketball it Should Be
1:07:50
Speaker 7: walker questler And The jazz doobe sign The town bully Showing,
1:07:55
Speaker 7: usive NURKIC the Bossi. And beast so that'd be interesting
1:07:59
Speaker 7: to seed next Year if nurki is On the jazz
1:08:02
Speaker 7: roster Playing Against vala tunis and shownes alluding to all
1:08:06
Speaker 7: these big guys From the baltic Countries meaning Lithuania meaning
1:08:12
Speaker 7: bosnia Meaning Meaning mother Russia. Meaning slovenia these guys are all.
1:08:18
Speaker 7: Big bodies they get hit all, the time. Perfectly normal
1:08:22
Speaker 7: they start hitting people on the, layup line, all right it's.
1:08:26
Speaker 7: Perfectly normal sure, You're laughing it's. Perfectly normal that's where,
1:08:30
Speaker 7: they there that's. THEIR culture i think, it's great and
1:08:34
Speaker 7: that's why you have to be physical to the questions always,
1:08:36
Speaker 7: as shown HOW can i be physical in a in,
1:08:39
Speaker 7: a sport whether IT'S the nba OR, the nfl be
1:08:42
Speaker 7: physical without what, getting uh getting fouls or ras called.
1:08:48
Speaker 7: Against me that's why it's. SO important i call having.
1:08:52
Speaker 7: Control frenzy that you're playing in a, control state yet
1:08:56
Speaker 7: you're playing what and if it's. Yet frenzy and that's
1:08:59
Speaker 7: why technique and the thought process is. Absolutely critical and in,
1:09:03
Speaker 7: playoff basketball the worst feel you could have to have
1:09:06
Speaker 7: sewn in a, playoff game whether IT'S the nfl or
1:09:09
Speaker 7: whether IT'S the nba above. Sea level after a loss
1:09:13
Speaker 7: on the road and a playoff game above sea level
1:09:16
Speaker 7: thirty five, thousand feet you see these awful words shown
1:09:19
Speaker 7: as you watch. THE film i wish we were more
1:09:21
Speaker 7: physical during the game the game. Is over it's the
1:09:25
Speaker 7: worst feeling in the world shown IN the nfl AND
1:09:29
Speaker 7: the nba in a, playoff game that we were less Physical,
1:09:34
Speaker 7: or shawn we committed so many physical and mental errors
1:09:38
Speaker 7: because we're over physical to the.
1:09:40
Speaker 2: Other, Stream okay i'd rather be on that end of
1:09:44
Speaker 2: the spectrum than on the one where you get.
1:09:45
Speaker 5: Bullied around but your point is.
1:09:47
Speaker 2: Well made you gotta find the right level, of, physicality
1:09:51
Speaker 2: which by, the way is something That The sacramento kings
1:09:54
Speaker 2: are being looked.
1:09:54
Speaker 5: At for.
1:09:57
Speaker 2: This is where my persecution For The. Utah jazz they're
1:10:00
Speaker 2: the complex we all have developed. Comes Out the kings
1:10:06
Speaker 2: are leading one oh one to one hundred late in
1:10:08
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and intentional Foul On seth curry to
1:10:14
Speaker 2: send him to the line and make it easy to lose.
1:10:17
Speaker 2: The game that is tanking of the. Highest order you're
1:10:23
Speaker 2: not even letting the natural run of play. Determined things
1:10:25
Speaker 2: you're deliberately fouling in order to let a team. Beat
1:10:30
Speaker 2: You doug christy And The sacramento kings, have, said, no,
1:10:34
Speaker 2: no that was.
1:10:35
Speaker 5: A mistake wasn't supposed to. Do that the NBA's looking.
1:10:39
Speaker 2: Into this If the jazz are getting fined for resting
1:10:42
Speaker 2: people in a second half or in the, fourth quarter
1:10:45
Speaker 2: this has got to be fine worthy. As well and by,
1:10:47
Speaker 2: THE WAY i i don't think THAT the nba should
1:10:50
Speaker 2: have ever handed out these fines because you've.
1:10:51
Speaker 5: Encouraged tanking Are the kings going to get hit? For
1:10:54
Speaker 5: this yes.
1:10:54
Speaker 7: They, ARE yeah i, Would say i'm just guessing one
1:10:57
Speaker 7: hundred thousand dollars fine for. Doing That and, sean said
1:11:00
Speaker 7: remember He Said seth curry, not yeah, not, yet zactly that's. His,
1:11:06
Speaker 7: Brother Also seth curry is an eighty six percent, foul
1:11:10
Speaker 7: shooter just like very soil with his brother who's also
1:11:13
Speaker 7: one of the greatest shooter of. All time so he
1:11:16
Speaker 7: went to the line he makes both and. It effects
1:11:19
Speaker 7: it almost assured That The sacramento kings and the. Interesting
1:11:23
Speaker 7: showing Remember the kings And the jazz are tied for
1:11:27
Speaker 7: the fourteenth seed In the west at twenty one and,
1:11:29
Speaker 7: fifty nine so with two, games left so they're. Both
1:11:33
Speaker 7: battling also shown from a, SIDE note i think That
1:11:36
Speaker 7: the kings will probably move On From doug christie's after,
1:11:40
Speaker 7: the season so it'll probably be a coaching change In
1:11:43
Speaker 7: the sacramento but they also have to change what many
1:11:46
Speaker 7: of their roster. Right now they're at the second apron
1:11:49
Speaker 7: excre me the first apron staring right, at it and
1:11:52
Speaker 7: the roster is. Absolutely bizarre he's one thing About the jazz, right,
1:11:55
Speaker 7: now though is that they have money to spend if
1:11:58
Speaker 7: they choose to. This offseason you mean what in free
1:12:00
Speaker 7: agency now With The, sacramento kings it's the worst scenario
1:12:05
Speaker 7: is that you're ready overpaid on so many of these guys.
1:12:08
Speaker 7: Right now and Remember the kings and fintas To the
1:12:10
Speaker 7: kings shown we left out one guy's name purposely and
1:12:12
Speaker 7: we all love. THIS Game A doma sabonis member's out
1:12:15
Speaker 7: the whole yet basically So, without sabonis there's no steadiness
1:12:20
Speaker 7: in the lane and also in the, locker room and
1:12:22
Speaker 7: that's part of the reason why they're. Absolutely Struggling The,
1:12:25
Speaker 7: sacramento kings and you can make a discussion Showing That
1:12:28
Speaker 7: sacramento kings are the worst run franchise IN. The nba,
1:12:32
Speaker 7: for example they missed the playoffs now eighteen at the
1:12:35
Speaker 7: last nineteen seasons and now with, this year will be
1:12:39
Speaker 7: nineteen times in the last twenty. Seasons shown So the
1:12:43
Speaker 7: kings have only had one, playoff appearance including this season
1:12:48
Speaker 7: when it's over in twenty years and now it's back
1:12:50
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty Three When mike brown.
1:12:53
Speaker 5: Was the coach.
1:12:54
Speaker 7: Of them so nineteen last twenty Years the kings have
1:12:57
Speaker 7: not been in, the playoffs which meant shown they drafted
1:12:59
Speaker 7: hot in. The lottery often they got the. Wrong guy.
1:13:03
Speaker 7: Most times it's hard.
1:13:04
Speaker 3: To do.
1:13:05
Speaker 7: It's, impossible sean the equivalent OF an nfl Of The
1:13:09
Speaker 7: sacramento kings is the Football In New.
1:13:11
Speaker 5: York jets do you agree? With, that Browns the browns And.
1:13:16
Speaker 7: The, jets Yeah the jets always get it wrong for the,
1:13:20
Speaker 7: last SHOW and i don't exaggerate.
1:13:22
Speaker 5: FORTY years i don't want it forty years A torture. Jets,
1:13:26
Speaker 5: FAN oh, i, AM yeah, I am i. ADMIT it.
1:13:29
Speaker 7: I am they always get, it wrong even though you
1:13:32
Speaker 7: know they, switch, coaches management, you, know whatever they get.
1:13:36
Speaker 5: It wrong you can't make.
1:13:38
Speaker 2: This up it's wild to think how some franchises can
1:13:42
Speaker 2: seemingly always get it right, the thunder and then there's
1:13:45
Speaker 2: some who always get.
1:13:46
Speaker 5: It wrong correct and it's in.
1:13:48
Speaker 2: Every league examples of these, every, league yes and there's
1:13:53
Speaker 2: the two ends of. The spectrum it would it would
1:13:56
Speaker 2: make a lot, more sense, is if like even on the, losing,
1:13:59
Speaker 2: end right it kind of rotated through, because, oh yeah,
1:14:04
Speaker 2: they suffered they got they hired the, wrong coach they
1:14:06
Speaker 2: hired the wrong. General manager when they got rid of, that,
1:14:09
Speaker 2: guy though then things started to. Turn around but there
1:14:12
Speaker 2: are certain teams where they hire the, wrong coach the wrong,
1:14:15
Speaker 2: general manager they draft the, wrong guys and then they replace,
1:14:19
Speaker 2: that personnel and then they do it again with the.
1:14:21
Speaker 2: New guys so they were, wrong again and then they were,
1:14:23
Speaker 2: wrong again and then they were.
1:14:24
Speaker 5: Wrong, again crazy devastating to.
1:14:27
Speaker 7: A franchise if you're picking, the lottery will say consecutive
1:14:31
Speaker 7: years and you get, both wrong both. Wrong picks in,
1:14:35
Speaker 7: other words where they don't help you win within a
1:14:41
Speaker 7: period Of say i'm trying to be objective within one to,
1:14:45
Speaker 7: three years as far as dremuthew improvement and hopefully those
1:14:48
Speaker 7: guys picked in the lottery, any sport they help you
1:14:51
Speaker 7: get to the playoffs. Relatively soon, Now again i'm pinning
1:14:55
Speaker 7: the chemist right now with one, BROKE stroke, i am
1:14:59
Speaker 7: but if you get it back to, back years it sets.
1:15:02
Speaker 7: You back showing just only speaking five years that you're, talking.
1:15:06
Speaker 2: About we've been Talking, maclin celebrini a teenager For The San,
1:15:13
Speaker 2: jose sharks hit one hundred points.
1:15:16
Speaker 1: This.
1:15:16
Speaker 5: Season Crazy The.
1:15:18
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh pirates just signed a kid to a nine year
1:15:21
Speaker 2: extension five days after they call.
1:15:24
Speaker 5: Him up he's. A TEENAGER.
1:15:27
Speaker 2: The nba has been a young, man's league in a
1:15:31
Speaker 2: kids league in some ways for a. Long time and,
1:15:34
Speaker 2: you Know Obviously cooper flag's incredibly young and is doing,
1:15:37
Speaker 2: great things but being eighteen or nineteen and already excelling
1:15:43
Speaker 2: among those grown man peers like we're seeing sometimes, in
1:15:47
Speaker 2: basketball sometimes, in hockey even, in baseball which is very
1:15:51
Speaker 2: much an older man's game because it's.
1:15:53
Speaker 5: So skilled.
1:15:56
Speaker 2: When you see, those guys when you see the teenagers
1:15:59
Speaker 2: that can, do it what's it like to, coach them
1:16:03
Speaker 2: to be coach, against them to be. Around them it's
1:16:06
Speaker 2: just insane to me to, watch yeah.
1:16:08
Speaker 7: Very, much one they have unbelievable talent level and that,
1:16:12
Speaker 7: usually speaking they're. Very athletic just, generally speaking they have
1:16:16
Speaker 7: bounced to their game and that they're Able to most
1:16:20
Speaker 7: of them again are, offensive minded that they can create their.
1:16:25
Speaker 7: OWN shot i just described right now For Byu, aj
1:16:28
Speaker 7: debanser so he'd be a classic example of a guy
1:16:30
Speaker 7: that we're describing. Right now and that coaching, these guys
1:16:34
Speaker 7: it's uplifting that these guys are franchise. Difference makers And
1:16:38
Speaker 7: when byamber who turned around the franchise Of The San
1:16:42
Speaker 7: antonio spurs with his Trusted Psychic, stefan castle both those guys.
1:16:47
Speaker 7: In play so when you have young guys around you
1:16:49
Speaker 7: also there's an element of. An enthusiasm now hopefully these
1:16:52
Speaker 7: young guys have a mixture, of talent youthfulness but also being.
1:17:00
Speaker 7: Young maturity and that's fair that when you're twenty, years
1:17:03
Speaker 7: old you're vity well differently it's someone that's thirty. Years
1:17:05
Speaker 7: old and when you're quote when you're a single guy versus,
1:17:08
Speaker 7: being married, generally speaking there's.
1:17:10
Speaker 5: ALWAYS exceptions i.
1:17:11
Speaker 7: Get it the more more times you're a little bit
1:17:14
Speaker 7: more freer versus more when you're married or with children
1:17:18
Speaker 7: that you hopefully you're more steady in your and your
1:17:23
Speaker 7: everyday life is again is always, AN exception i, get
1:17:27
Speaker 7: it but, most times and so coaching these guys is. Very,
1:17:31
Speaker 7: Uplifting however seoran in the IN the NBA and, nfl
1:17:35
Speaker 7: playoffs it's a. Man's league so the draft is what
1:17:39
Speaker 7: a youthful part, of it but you get the playoff
1:17:42
Speaker 7: basketball men prevail and, that's experience and that's. Mental toughness
1:17:49
Speaker 7: that's absolutely respecting. The game as far as, the possession
1:17:53
Speaker 7: WHETHER the nfl you're in the red zone or in
1:17:55
Speaker 7: basketball with the under three minute mark OF an nba,
1:17:58
Speaker 7: playoff game you got to be able. To execute you
1:18:01
Speaker 7: just can't be free flowing because you feel, like it
1:18:03
Speaker 7: because every possession, does matter especially in the fourth quarter
1:18:07
Speaker 7: of a, playoff game And the stars in the fourth
1:18:10
Speaker 7: quarter they have to guard their position to outplay The
1:18:13
Speaker 7: other stars to win, a close specially.
1:18:17
Speaker 5: Road, game gordy what's your? List today all our.
1:18:21
Speaker 7: List today is the Element of victor wembyond in this,
1:18:24
Speaker 7: list eventually but this is a dozen of the all
1:18:29
Speaker 7: TIMES shown nba Leaders in korea. Block shots so the
1:18:34
Speaker 7: most ever top twelve leaders in block shots and is
1:18:38
Speaker 7: an element Also Of utah. Jazz basketball the twelve player
1:18:43
Speaker 7: ever to block the most much block Shots Are marcus
1:18:48
Speaker 7: kenby at two thousand and three point, Thirty one number
1:18:51
Speaker 7: eleven All Time alonzo morning two thousand and three, Fifty six,
1:18:56
Speaker 7: Number Ten robert parrish two thousand and three, Sixty one
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Speaker 7: Number Nine Wayne Tree wallin rollins two thousand and five,
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Speaker 4: want to get to. Real quick connor McDavid is on
1:27:58
Speaker 4: a mission.
1:27:58
Speaker 2: Right now we saw what he was able to do
1:28:01
Speaker 2: Against The utah mammoth uh the Other night, tuesday night
1:28:05
Speaker 2: and Thankfully the mammoth escaped with the victory.
1:28:08
Speaker 5: Overtime.
1:28:08
Speaker 2: Victory there connor McDavid, last night in the second period
1:28:15
Speaker 2: had a hat trick in five points in.
1:28:18
Speaker 5: One period no heading into, the.
1:28:21
Speaker 4: City heading into before the third. Period began man through,
1:28:25
Speaker 4: Two periods, holy cow he had five points in a.
1:28:28
Speaker 2: Hat trick connor McDavid is and that was by, the
1:28:34
Speaker 2: way Against the sharks team that had been Red hot
1:28:38
Speaker 2: connor McDavid is a. Massive problem three goals to assists
1:28:43
Speaker 2: Against the sharks team, that look a lot of people
1:28:49
Speaker 2: were talking about last week whether or not maclan celebrin
1:28:52
Speaker 2: he deserves to be in the conversation For The?
1:28:54
Speaker 5: Heart trophy should he BE AN?
1:28:56
Speaker 2: Nhl mvp is he a guy that you want to
1:28:59
Speaker 2: talk about in the same kind of conversations as People like.
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Speaker 2: Connor McDavid and I think connor McDavid quietly probably heard.
1:29:08
Speaker 5: Those things it was, just like, all right watch, this.
1:29:14
Speaker 2: Outplayed not Just, maclen celebrini but everyone on the ice
1:29:18
Speaker 2: and everyone IN the nhl as he is capable of
1:29:21
Speaker 2: doing and has done so many times in.
1:29:23
Speaker 5: His career why is this relevant To The.
1:29:25
Speaker 2: Utah, mammoth well because if the playoffs, began today you'd
1:29:28
Speaker 2: have to Deal with connor McDavid for a seven. Game
1:29:30
Speaker 2: series and it was a wonderful thing to get the
1:29:34
Speaker 2: first franchise win Over The. Edmonton oilers you do not
1:29:38
Speaker 2: want to Play a connor McDavid possessed in a, playoff
1:29:43
Speaker 2: series especially if He's Getting leon dry sidled back as,
1:29:46
Speaker 2: his sidekick and that is the most. Likely outcome, but
1:29:50
Speaker 2: man you just have to sit back and watch and
1:29:55
Speaker 2: be in awe sometimes when that guy has the puck
1:29:59
Speaker 2: or is taking the puck.
1:30:02
Speaker 5: And just blowing.
1:30:03
Speaker 2: PAST people i don't think there's a lot of pro
1:30:07
Speaker 2: athletes that cause those feelings of awe in, their peers
1:30:11
Speaker 2: where other guys that also played professional hockey could just
1:30:16
Speaker 2: shake their head and, be like what what? Is that
1:30:19
Speaker 2: other guys that played professional basketball are the guys that played.
1:30:22
Speaker 5: Professional football you don't.
1:30:24
Speaker 2: Often get people to react that way to any player
1:30:28
Speaker 2: or any.
1:30:28
Speaker 5: Player's accomplishment but IN.
1:30:30
Speaker 2: THE nhl, I mean i think that happened To the
1:30:32
Speaker 2: mammoth the other night while the play was, actually happening while,
1:30:36
Speaker 2: THEY'RE like, I think I think veggie was in the
1:30:40
Speaker 2: goal just, being like what how did he get this?
1:30:42
Speaker 2: Close to, oh crap he just. Scored anyway connor McDavid
1:30:47
Speaker 2: a five point night Against The San.
1:30:48
Speaker 5: Jose sharks.
1:30:51
Speaker 2: We've talked about the transfer portal and its effect on,
1:30:54
Speaker 2: college hoops and let's, BE honest byu basketball was a
1:30:59
Speaker 2: massive beneficiary of the transfer portal AND of. Nil support this,
1:31:04
Speaker 2: past season injuries made it so it didn't work out
1:31:07
Speaker 2: the WAY that byu wanted. It To aj debonsa They
1:31:12
Speaker 2: Added rob Wright the Third, from baylor who was one
1:31:15
Speaker 2: of the top guards available in last year's. Transfer, portal
1:31:18
Speaker 2: well now some other team is going to be Shopping
1:31:20
Speaker 2: For rob bright. Third services it's possible he could RETURN.
1:31:25
Speaker 2: To byu this could be a leverage play for. More
1:31:28
Speaker 2: money but what's being reported is that he will fetch
1:31:32
Speaker 2: north of three million dollars as the top point guard
1:31:36
Speaker 2: available in the.
1:31:38
Speaker 5: Transfer, portal.
1:31:41
Speaker 2: Wow, the numbers by the way that you were SEEING
1:31:45
Speaker 2: listed i think it was on, three yesterday went through and, was,
1:31:50
Speaker 2: like hey this is what it's going to. Cost you
1:31:52
Speaker 2: elite point guards are in that two to four million.
1:31:55
Speaker 2: Dollar range elite big men are into the three to
1:31:58
Speaker 2: five million, dollar range with some of them demanding even more.
1:32:02
Speaker 2: Than that you can't begrudge the kids wanting to take advantage,
1:32:07
Speaker 2: Of this you. Really can't the system is a little,
1:32:12
Speaker 2: bit twisted a little. BIT broken i don't know that
1:32:15
Speaker 2: we're ever going to put that genie back in. The
1:32:17
Speaker 2: Bottle as i've said so, Many times rob right the
1:32:21
Speaker 2: third is going to leave college basketball having made six plus.
1:32:29
Speaker 2: Million dollars this will be his third. SCHOOL two, i
1:32:34
Speaker 2: mean he was getting paid Well, At baylor big mad that,
1:32:40
Speaker 2: he left they were to take, you know probably. More,
1:32:43
Speaker 2: money Well because baylor. Was mad one of the Big
1:32:47
Speaker 2: reasons baylor was mad Is because baylor felt like they
1:32:49
Speaker 2: had done what is required to get someone like that
1:32:53
Speaker 2: and to keep someone. Like that they, were, like, yeah
1:32:55
Speaker 2: man you just you just agreed to this deal with us.
1:32:58
Speaker 2: Last week we were going to pay. You whatever it
1:33:01
Speaker 2: was one point eight million dollars AND then byu came in.
1:33:04
Speaker 2: With more and now he's either going to get more
1:33:08
Speaker 2: somewhere else or he's going to get that NUMBER. From
1:33:12
Speaker 2: byu and that is the big question, for me because
1:33:17
Speaker 2: we heard some things during the course of the season
1:33:20
Speaker 2: that maybe he wasn't the best FIT. At byu whether
1:33:24
Speaker 2: it was, the school whether it was, the culture whether
1:33:27
Speaker 2: It Was, kevin young whether it was.
1:33:29
Speaker 5: His teammates it just wasn't seamless with.
1:33:33
Speaker 2: Rob, right third he didn't fit in the WAY that
1:33:36
Speaker 2: aj debonsa. Fit in he didn't gel the way That
1:33:39
Speaker 2: Like kevin kaida has gelled with that team and. THOSE
1:33:42
Speaker 2: guys aj obviously big. Tim recruit kevin was. A. Transfer
1:33:46
Speaker 2: right we heard. Those things that was the, scuttle butt
1:33:51
Speaker 2: and that's enough reason to leave because you're not penalized for.
1:33:56
Speaker 2: Leaving anymore that by itself take the money out. Of
1:33:59
Speaker 2: it that, By Itself If rob brice just, LIKE man
1:34:01
Speaker 2: i don't like, IT here i don't fit, in here
1:34:04
Speaker 2: coach doesn't like, me here fans aren't responding to, me,
1:34:06
Speaker 2: here whatever that's enough of a reason for a lot
1:34:09
Speaker 2: of college kids to jump into a. Transfer portal add
1:34:13
Speaker 2: millions of dollars on top. Of that and even if
1:34:16
Speaker 2: you don't intend to, leave provo if that rumor was all,
1:34:20
Speaker 2: just fabricated putting your name in the transfer portal is
1:34:25
Speaker 2: just a way, to, say like indicate the seriousness of.
1:34:29
Speaker 5: Your Contemplation carson templin did It To.
1:34:33
Speaker 2: Utah State rob wright the third could easily do IT,
1:34:37
Speaker 2: to byu and.
1:34:38
Speaker 5: He is.
1:34:40
Speaker 2: THE question, i, have though is if there is any
1:34:44
Speaker 2: credence to those RUMORS for byu and the fit or
1:34:48
Speaker 2: lack Thereof With? Rob wright is he worth three? MILLION bucks,
1:34:54
Speaker 2: i mean he's his numbers are that weird thing to
1:34:58
Speaker 2: say in? College back now he's eighteen points and five assists. Or,
1:35:02
Speaker 2: Whatever yeah i'll pay five million bucks. For THAT if
1:35:05
Speaker 2: I think i have, a contender.
1:35:10
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1:35:10
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1:35:11
Speaker 2: Ryan smith are you gonna write that check for, By You,
1:35:15
Speaker 2: Danny ainge are you gonna cut?
1:35:17
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1:35:18
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1:35:22
Speaker 2: check i saw by the way.
1:35:23
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1:35:25
Speaker 2: Crumble man crumble's being dragged by the way right now
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Speaker 2: on social media by like the mommy bloggers because, everyone
1:35:34
Speaker 2: DECIDED like i, don't know two years after, the fact
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1:35:43
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1:35:46
Speaker 5: These, cookies YES yes i did know.
1:35:50
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1:35:55
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Speaker 5: Be yep some of these cookies have seventy five grams.
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Speaker 5: Of sugar yeah. We know.
1:36:04
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1:36:13
Speaker 2: we know. They're unhealthy, thank you social media. Mommy blogger
1:36:17
Speaker 2: i'm gonna eat a different giant sugar.
1:36:21
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1:36:48
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1:36:52
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1:36:54
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1:36:57
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1:37:00
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1:37:03
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1:37:07
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1:37:10
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1:37:12
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1:37:16
Speaker 5: yes we all.
1:37:17
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1:37:20
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1:37:22
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1:37:25
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1:37:48
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1:37:56
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1:37:59
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1:38:03
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1:38:11
Speaker 4: it's like you, know what SOMETIMES sometimes i want a
1:38:14
Speaker 4: sweet treat EVEN though i know it's bad.
1:38:16
Speaker 2: For me you how, Many, TIMES james i do this way.
1:38:19
Speaker 2: TOO often i don't Know why i've manufactured this in.
1:38:22
Speaker 2: My mind I'VE got pfl Fights in chicago. This, weekend
1:38:24
Speaker 2: RIGHT the. Pfl workdays it beats, digging ditches but they're.
1:38:28
Speaker 2: Long days you got rehearsal a lot. Of hours it's
1:38:31
Speaker 2: like if they're, odd hours you get done at one
1:38:33
Speaker 2: in the morning. Or whatever every, Single time, i'm like,
1:38:36
Speaker 2: ALL right i just put in. The, WORK now i
1:38:39
Speaker 2: need me, a TREAT and i will go. Find whatever
1:38:43
Speaker 2: three thousand calories are available to me at two in,
1:38:47
Speaker 2: the morning at, Every, Time james and you know it's
1:38:51
Speaker 2: not good good?
1:38:52
Speaker 4: FOR me i WE all i that's probably. Too presumptive
1:38:56
Speaker 4: many of us do the, SAME thing.
1:38:59
Speaker 5: I think.
1:39:00
Speaker 2: Most right the audacity to then be LIKE if i
1:39:04
Speaker 2: woke up the, next day it was.
1:39:07
Speaker 5: Just like how dare you tell me that pizza? To it?
1:39:10
Speaker 5: The man look at look at the. Nutrition facts are you?
1:39:14
Speaker 4: Kidding me what do you Mean Should Chicago Deep dish?
1:39:17
Speaker 2: Pizza place did you guys know that eating a whole
1:39:20
Speaker 2: box Of pop tarts is bad?
1:39:22
Speaker 5: For you, that is we all knew how damn? Pop
1:39:26
Speaker 5: tarts that's the daily, Dump, anyway.
1:39:28
Speaker 2: Uh we're gonna check It With charles Clinton Of Tawana Visita.
1:39:31
Speaker 2: Golf course and then at one o'clock in our, Third
1:39:36
Speaker 2: Hour paul pugmyer is gonna tell us what's going on At.
1:39:39
Speaker 2: The masters It's the Sean, O'Connell show. Espn seven.
1:39:47
Speaker 5: We were.
1:39:54
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Speaker 2: Half am when you Watch The, winter olympics you want
1:40:13
Speaker 2: to go ice skating.
1:40:15
Speaker 5: Or skiing when You, watch wimbledon you want to go.
1:40:19
Speaker 2: Play tennis when you're Watching, the masters you want to
1:40:24
Speaker 2: get out there. And Golf charles Clinton From tawana vista
1:40:28
Speaker 2: golf course joins us now here On the Sean, O'Connell
1:40:30
Speaker 2: show and he can help you with that.
1:40:32
Speaker 5: Golf, Part charles welcome to. The show how are?
1:40:34
Speaker 3: You?
1:40:35
Speaker 9: Hi thanks just Watching the masters, right now actually we.
1:40:40
Speaker 2: All are tell me besides Watching, the masters what else
1:40:43
Speaker 2: is going On At tawana vista out There.
1:40:45
Speaker 1: In.
1:40:45
Speaker 5: Windover well it is a.
1:40:48
Speaker 9: Beautiful day the course is in very. Good shape it's
1:40:52
Speaker 9: hard to believe how green. It is we had A,
1:40:55
Speaker 9: record march temperatures, were crazy but we're going full cylinders
1:41:01
Speaker 9: here and golf is great. Out here this is a
1:41:04
Speaker 9: hidden gym during. The week you can get on sometimes
1:41:08
Speaker 9: even as a twosome by yourself or even. A single
1:41:11
Speaker 9: so we don't get super busy during the week. Out
1:41:15
Speaker 9: here so get out here.
1:41:16
Speaker 2: And play it's an easy little jount, out there direct
1:41:20
Speaker 2: West From Salt. Lake city and you've also got some tournaments,
1:41:24
Speaker 2: coming up is?
1:41:25
Speaker 9: That, Right yeah we've got several tournaments, coming up starting
1:41:29
Speaker 9: with our Four, person kamakazi which is going to Be,
1:41:32
Speaker 9: on thursday the sixteenths of.
1:41:36
Speaker 5: This Month.
1:41:37
Speaker 9: Kama kazi we have a, four person a three person
1:41:40
Speaker 9: later in, the year and then a two person in
1:41:42
Speaker 9: the fall and it's a. Crazy tournament it's like a
1:41:46
Speaker 9: Cross country you're going from different pas, de greens not
1:41:51
Speaker 9: like a regular. Course layout so it's. Pretty fun the
1:41:55
Speaker 9: guys have a good time. With it our biggest event
1:41:58
Speaker 9: Is The Window casino open and That is june eighteenth.
1:42:04
Speaker 9: And nineteenth the two man best ball. Max payout there's
1:42:09
Speaker 9: over fifteen thousand dollars. Added money it's a great tournament to.
1:42:13
Speaker 9: Get into we'll start taking signups In. Mid May.
1:42:19
Speaker 2: If i'm looking for kind of a, whole, Weekend right
1:42:22
Speaker 2: i'm gonna get. Out there i'm going to play, a
1:42:24
Speaker 2: tournament maybe play some rounds. OF golf i don't want
1:42:26
Speaker 2: to drive Back To. SALT lake i don't want to
1:42:28
Speaker 2: drive even Back to stansbury or something. LIKE that i
1:42:31
Speaker 2: WANT to i want to stay out there and Wind
1:42:33
Speaker 2: Over swanta vista have some hotel deals or anything like that.
1:42:37
Speaker 5: Going on.
1:42:39
Speaker 9: We have, some yeah stay and play packages you get
1:42:42
Speaker 9: with the casinos. Out here so all the casino properties
1:42:48
Speaker 9: have access to what we call. Hotel passes so if
1:42:53
Speaker 9: you're staying with the one of, those hotels you can
1:42:58
Speaker 9: just ask for a path and they give you a
1:43:01
Speaker 9: reduced rate for the golf course and those are. Available
1:43:06
Speaker 9: anytime you just need to get a tea time and
1:43:10
Speaker 9: check in at the. Front desk and when you're, doing
1:43:12
Speaker 9: that let them know you want to buy a golf
1:43:14
Speaker 9: path and you get a reduced rate on it for a.
1:43:17
Speaker 9: Great deal so you can come and play in a
1:43:22
Speaker 9: little golf and then go play in the casino and
1:43:25
Speaker 9: have a.
1:43:25
Speaker 2: Great time little golf during, the day, little, blackjack poker whatever.
1:43:30
Speaker 5: By night maybe grab a show while you're out there and.
1:43:33
Speaker 2: Wind over make it a great weekend, for yourself maybe a,
1:43:37
Speaker 2: boy's trip maybe a, gals trip maybe you take your
1:43:40
Speaker 2: spouse significant other. Out There tawana vista great for all.
1:43:43
Speaker 2: Those options And like charles, just said if you can
1:43:46
Speaker 2: get out there during, the week you're not dealing with
1:43:49
Speaker 2: the same kind.
1:43:49
Speaker 5: Of crowds there's not a lot of.
1:43:50
Speaker 2: Congestion everyone this beautiful Weather In salt lake has been
1:43:55
Speaker 2: hard for people to get tea times everyone in all.
1:43:57
Speaker 5: The courses.
1:43:57
Speaker 2: Everyone's Full tawana vistas not too, far away and it's
1:44:00
Speaker 2: definitely worth, the Trip, right charles.
1:44:03
Speaker 9: It is it's wonderful. Out here in conjunction with, the
1:44:06
Speaker 9: hotels they also THE Rain Rpm, Group Rainbow, montego bay And.
1:44:15
Speaker 9: Pepper mail they run some tournaments out here anywhere from One,
1:44:19
Speaker 9: man scrambles which is coming up the End. Of april
1:44:23
Speaker 9: they have two, man scrambles four, man scrambles they have a,
1:44:26
Speaker 9: couple's tournament and there's about ten events sprinkled throughout. The
1:44:32
Speaker 9: year you get two nights at, the hotel two rounds.
1:44:36
Speaker 9: Of golf the Tournament prize fund they give you a
1:44:40
Speaker 9: voucher for like twenty five bucks worth at. The restaurants
1:44:44
Speaker 9: it's a. Great deal and depending on your player level,
1:44:48
Speaker 9: out here they start at zero dollars up to about,
1:44:53
Speaker 9: three hundred but even for about, three hundred it's still
1:44:55
Speaker 9: a pretty.
1:44:56
Speaker 3: Good, deal.
1:44:59
Speaker 2: Charles thank you so much for. Your time we're gonna
1:45:02
Speaker 2: send as many people as we can out There To.
1:45:04
Speaker 2: Tawana vista, all.
1:45:05
Speaker 9: Right, wonderful everybody have A great. Masters week it should
1:45:08
Speaker 9: Be Great Tawana.
1:45:11
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1:45:17
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1:45:25
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1:45:28
Speaker 2: tell you what's going on At? The masters rory McElroy
1:45:31
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Speaker 5: You sir?
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Speaker 12: Oh see why are you? Calling me i'm Watching.
1:46:57
Speaker 2: The masters, my apologies That's a. JAMES decision i WOULD
1:47:02
Speaker 2: never i would never date to interfere With your. MASTER'S coverage,
1:47:05
Speaker 2: i mean you only got four days, Of, it paula
1:47:08
Speaker 2: we could hopefully take twenty minutes of.
1:47:09
Speaker 5: Your time.
1:47:12
Speaker 12: I'm very happy to talk. With you It is, master's
1:47:15
Speaker 12: week which kind Of means i'm. Very happy so.
1:47:18
Speaker 5: There's that So How's augusta national playing?
1:47:22
Speaker 12: So far, it's firm. It's quick they have not had,
1:47:28
Speaker 12: much rain they haven't had a lot of weather in
1:47:30
Speaker 12: that part of the country, this year and it's showing
1:47:34
Speaker 12: on the golf. Course now augusta the golf club has
1:47:39
Speaker 12: more ability than any other facility anywhere to control the,
1:47:44
Speaker 12: turf conditions but they have chosen to ride out this
1:47:48
Speaker 12: warm dry spell and make the golf course firm, and
1:47:52
Speaker 12: fast and it will only get quicker as the week.
1:47:54
Speaker 12: Goes by it will only get firmer as the week.
1:47:56
Speaker 12: Goes by and so that's that's what it's playing like,
1:48:01
Speaker 12: right now even from, the beginning and it's going to
1:48:04
Speaker 12: be an awfully lot of fun to watch it throughout.
1:48:06
Speaker 2: The week you've got be intrigued when you say that
1:48:08
Speaker 2: they've got more control than anywhere over, those conditions but
1:48:12
Speaker 2: they've chosen to just kind of let. It ride what's
1:48:15
Speaker 2: the alternative they add more water to. THE course, i
1:48:19
Speaker 2: mean give me a sense of how that decision is
1:48:21
Speaker 2: made and what it looks like when.
1:48:22
Speaker 12: It is let's go to the number eleven green. For
1:48:25
Speaker 12: example that particular green gets very little sunlight because of
1:48:29
Speaker 12: where it's situated on the property and the trees that are.
1:48:32
Speaker 12: Around it together with some very innovative and capable, engineering
1:48:38
Speaker 12: firms they developed a system called sub air that they
1:48:42
Speaker 12: installed underneath the green that allows them to control the
1:48:48
Speaker 12: temperature of the soil and. The roots allows them to
1:48:52
Speaker 12: add water from on top and leave, it there or
1:48:54
Speaker 12: suck water from below and take. Water away they can
1:48:57
Speaker 12: control the moisture content and the temperature of the soil and,
1:49:02
Speaker 12: the plants the grass on.
1:49:03
Speaker 2: The, green wait, hold on you're telling me that there
1:49:06
Speaker 2: is a subterranean soil conditioning system on The eleventh Green.
1:49:11
Speaker 5: AT augusta.
1:49:13
Speaker 12: I am i'm saying that's where it. Was developed they
1:49:15
Speaker 12: have it in more places than just. Eleven now, But
1:49:19
Speaker 12: yes i'm Saying That augusta national develops that they were
1:49:23
Speaker 12: they were the pioneers in this technology and they have
1:49:27
Speaker 12: immense control, over there over their. Golf course now another element,
1:49:32
Speaker 12: of this and this is something that has to always
1:49:34
Speaker 12: be a part of the Discussion Of. Augusta national it
1:49:40
Speaker 12: is the hardest walk ON The pga. Tour annually there
1:49:44
Speaker 12: is more slope and elevation change than on any other.
1:49:48
Speaker 12: GOLF course Tv. Flattens augusta the common predicted expected response
1:49:56
Speaker 12: to anybody on their first Visit to augusta after watching
1:49:59
Speaker 12: it for A lifetime I'M on tv is to say
1:50:01
Speaker 12: that no matter how many times they, were told they
1:50:03
Speaker 12: were not prepared for the elevation changes for the slope
1:50:07
Speaker 12: on that. Golf course and that is one percent, totally
1:50:10
Speaker 12: true which means that it drains pretty well and so
1:50:15
Speaker 12: they're able to control the moisture content in, the fairways
1:50:19
Speaker 12: but that's a function of the. Property. Characteristics there there
1:50:23
Speaker 12: is ONE thing i do want to say about the
1:50:25
Speaker 12: slope And then i'll, slow down and this Is a
1:50:30
Speaker 12: utah guy Giving a utah perspective to the slope At
1:50:34
Speaker 12: A gusta national number thirteen fairway and number. TEN fairway
1:50:39
Speaker 12: i would ski.
1:50:44
Speaker 5: That's steep you Lose, You, Paul, Hello yeah.
1:50:51
Speaker 12: I'm, Back yeah i'll.
1:50:52
Speaker 3: HEAR you i.
1:50:52
Speaker 5: Hear.
1:50:53
Speaker 2: You Sorry the utah connection here In the Masters is Mike.
1:51:00
Speaker 2: And mike we are alone as Far as. I'm Aware
1:51:02
Speaker 2: tony few did. Not qualify he's been top he's been
1:51:06
Speaker 2: top ten a few times At, the masters But no tony.
1:51:09
Speaker 2: This year he's just not playing good enough golf? Right
1:51:12
Speaker 2: now or is he dialing? Things back why are we Not?
1:51:16
Speaker 12: Seeing tony he didn't qualify to get in because he's
1:51:20
Speaker 12: been scraping it. This year tony has not, said this
1:51:24
Speaker 12: but it's my Perception that tony has has had a
1:51:30
Speaker 12: long tail on the recovery from his foot surgery, last
1:51:33
Speaker 12: fall and he Has had he's he's had flashes Of Being,
1:51:39
Speaker 12: tony few but he hasn't been able to maintain it
1:51:42
Speaker 12: for four days.
1:51:44
Speaker 3: And put together four.
1:51:45
Speaker 12: Good rounds and he especially has had a trend this
1:51:49
Speaker 12: year of fading on. The weekends yead all. That up
1:51:53
Speaker 12: PLUS when i last saw him at an Event at
1:51:56
Speaker 12: riverside a couple, months ago he was. LIMPING noticeably i
1:52:01
Speaker 12: think he's not fully recovered FROM this.
1:52:03
Speaker 2: Fot, surgery well we've seen injury take really good players
1:52:08
Speaker 2: out of. Every sport unfortunate see it Happened to tony in.
1:52:12
Speaker 2: This one let's talk about the. Current, leaderboard rory McElroy
1:52:16
Speaker 2: and burns are up there at. Five, Under Scheffler, Reed Day, Kitty,
1:52:21
Speaker 2: yama rye they're all in that three under spot and
1:52:25
Speaker 2: we expect movement as we're only in the first day of.
1:52:27
Speaker 2: This tournament but we'll start at the. Top there rory
1:52:32
Speaker 2: through what sixteen or is he done with?
1:52:35
Speaker 1: His?
1:52:35
Speaker 12: Round, yeah, no no he is on sixteen. Right now
1:52:39
Speaker 12: actually he just tapped in. ON, sixteen ok so he's
1:52:43
Speaker 12: got two holes left and he's at minus five on.
1:52:45
Speaker 2: The day what do you like about the way he's playing?
1:52:48
Speaker 12: Right now he's playing freely and this has been a
1:52:52
Speaker 12: Theme for rory McElroy. For years when he, swings freely
1:52:57
Speaker 12: he is otherworldly and when, he doesn't, it shows and
1:53:03
Speaker 12: it is something he has been struggling with his. Entire
1:53:06
Speaker 12: career sometimes he, finds it sometimes. He doesn't but, you
1:53:10
Speaker 12: know that kind of thing applies to all, of us
1:53:11
Speaker 12: right but That's been rory's things and right now very
1:53:16
Speaker 12: clearly absolutely when he won last year and Won the
1:53:21
Speaker 12: masters after so many close calls and completed The Career
1:53:24
Speaker 12: grand slam after so many. Close calls it took weight off.
1:53:29
Speaker 12: His shoulders it, was Visible and rory speaks openly, about
1:53:33
Speaker 12: this and so he has. Come in he has nothing,
1:53:36
Speaker 12: to prove nothing. To do everything that he does now
1:53:40
Speaker 12: in his career is. Absolute gravy he has complete freedom
1:53:45
Speaker 12: and it shows in. His swing he is. Swinging freely
1:53:47
Speaker 12: i've been watching him today and you can, see it
1:53:50
Speaker 12: and it's putting up the results you.
1:53:53
Speaker 2: Would Expect, sam burns who right now shares, that lead
1:53:57
Speaker 2: not quite the Name that rory. McElroy is what should
1:54:00
Speaker 2: know about him and how this course maybe fits him
1:54:02
Speaker 2: or by the end of the weekend maybe.
1:54:04
Speaker 5: IT won't a couple things.
1:54:06
Speaker 12: To Know About. Sam burns first, of, all statistically he's
1:54:09
Speaker 12: the best petter on tour and that can do nothing
1:54:11
Speaker 12: but help you at augusta, national difficult brutally difficult. Petting
1:54:16
Speaker 12: course the other Thing is burns has not yet won,
1:54:20
Speaker 12: a major but he is in the conversation of best
1:54:23
Speaker 12: players who have not won. A major he Is a,
1:54:26
Speaker 12: ryder cupper he is a top. Ten player he is absolutely,
1:54:30
Speaker 12: an elite top level player by, every measure and no
1:54:38
Speaker 12: surprise To see burns up there. Making noise it will
1:54:45
Speaker 12: be a test to see if he can take the
1:54:48
Speaker 12: next step in, his career which is to show that
1:54:50
Speaker 12: he can do it over four days in the white.
1:54:53
Speaker 12: Hot cauldron that is a. Major championship so we. Will
1:54:56
Speaker 12: SEE when i look at, this, leaderboard though a couple
1:55:00
Speaker 12: things jump out as you just scan, down it and
1:55:04
Speaker 12: that Is augusta national always brings the cream to. The
1:55:10
Speaker 12: top and so let's just scan through the leaderboard. Right
1:55:13
Speaker 12: now we've, got McElroy A grand, Slam, winner day a, Major,
1:55:16
Speaker 12: winner read a, major Winner A, Master's champ scheffler a,
1:55:21
Speaker 12: Major Winner Master champ lowry a, Major winner fleetwood the
1:55:26
Speaker 12: current tour, CHAMPIONSHIP Winner A, Couples Rose, thomas woodland all.
1:55:32
Speaker 12: Major winners this is not An.
1:55:34
Speaker 2: Accident james put me onto, this story but really inspiring
1:55:41
Speaker 2: what we're Seeing From gary woodland to just a couple
1:55:43
Speaker 2: of weeks ago qualified For this masters by Winning The.
1:55:47
Speaker 2: Houston open he's been dealing with the brain tumor and
1:55:50
Speaker 2: then SURGERY and ptsd and FEAR of, i mean his.
1:55:55
Speaker 2: Own mortality he's had these feelings that he was going,
1:55:58
Speaker 2: to die his brain working, against him and obviously golf
1:56:02
Speaker 2: is one of the ultimate. Mental sports how is he
1:56:06
Speaker 2: how is he able to do it out There.
1:56:08
Speaker 12: At augusta he is, a strong committed man with people
1:56:14
Speaker 12: around him who love him and, help him and he
1:56:18
Speaker 12: speaks openly. About that he started speaking openly ABOUT the
1:56:22
Speaker 12: ptsd and his mental health struggles just a couple, months
1:56:26
Speaker 12: ago and he said, doing so speaking about it publicly
1:56:29
Speaker 12: has made him feel a thousand. Pounds lighter, his words
1:56:34
Speaker 12: the part of his brain that was operated on is
1:56:40
Speaker 12: the part that controls, fear response and it has had
1:56:44
Speaker 12: the effect of making him fearful of things in life
1:56:47
Speaker 12: that the rest of us wouldn't. Even notice he has
1:56:50
Speaker 12: talked about going into the porta potties that while he's
1:56:53
Speaker 12: playing and breaking down. In, tears wow that just sounds like,
1:56:58
Speaker 12: a hard hard way. To live but he is very
1:57:04
Speaker 12: clearly a man of great strength dealing with, a superbly
1:57:07
Speaker 12: supremely difficult challenge and he's rising to. Meet it, And
1:57:12
Speaker 12: yes james, is right, it's inspirational it's beautiful, to see.
1:57:17
Speaker 2: And he's using the platform he has now encouraging and
1:57:20
Speaker 2: we echo. This sentiment if you're having any mental, health
1:57:23
Speaker 2: struggles if there's something that you've been trying to, fight
1:57:25
Speaker 2: through on your own and it's. Not working talk. To
1:57:28
Speaker 2: somebody there are people out there that, love you that care,
1:57:31
Speaker 2: about you that can. Help you there are professionals who
1:57:33
Speaker 2: have expertise in, these areas and it, sounds like, you
1:57:37
Speaker 2: KNOW The pga tour And the masters and the security
1:57:41
Speaker 2: teams and, all this they've they've they've found ways to
1:57:45
Speaker 2: help and they they're trying to make it as smooth
1:57:48
Speaker 2: and seamless as possible, for him which is is good
1:57:50
Speaker 2: to see because you want to make it a level.
1:57:52
Speaker 2: Playing field but when we're talking about something like this,
1:57:55
Speaker 2: reasonable accommodation it's good to know that the tour has
1:57:58
Speaker 2: his best interest in the health of the players.
1:58:00
Speaker 12: In, mind, YEAH yeah. I mean in his post round
1:58:04
Speaker 12: interview after Winning, in houston he said something that has
1:58:07
Speaker 12: just it remains. With me, he said they asked him
1:58:11
Speaker 12: what it felt like. To win, He goes, He, Says
1:58:14
Speaker 12: look i'm. AN athlete i love, to win and it
1:58:16
Speaker 12: feels good. To win he, just says but Don't think.
1:58:19
Speaker 12: I'm fixed today, was hard tomorrow will be Hard TO
1:58:24
Speaker 12: what i care about the most is, that somehow somebody
1:58:27
Speaker 12: somewhere will find in my victory today the motivation for
1:58:32
Speaker 12: them to keep going on in. Their, struggle man that's,
1:58:38
Speaker 12: powerful stuff it.
1:58:39
Speaker 2: Really Is paul pugbyer is our guest here On the Sean.
1:58:42
Speaker 2: O'Connell show you Could hear Paul On Utah golf Radio
1:58:45
Speaker 2: on saturday mornings right HERE on espn seven hundred and
1:58:48
Speaker 2: ninety TWO. One Fm is he is as dialed in
1:58:51
Speaker 2: as you're ever going to find someone on not only,
1:58:55
Speaker 2: National golf, international golf but certainly the local scene. As
1:58:59
Speaker 2: well that's why we love having them Be our. Masters
1:59:01
Speaker 2: INSIDER and I think i've asked you this every time
1:59:04
Speaker 2: we've talked About the masters over the years on, the
1:59:07
Speaker 2: show but this is the ultimate of all. The majors
1:59:11
Speaker 2: this is the big tournament and winning that green jacket
1:59:16
Speaker 2: is SOMETHING that i have a hard time trying to
1:59:18
Speaker 2: describe to sports fans what it's supposed to Be because
1:59:20
Speaker 2: i'm not as deep in the. Golf world, the pressure,
1:59:24
Speaker 2: the weight, the intensity, the, elation whatever how much is
1:59:30
Speaker 2: it Amplified at augusta versus even Like A british open
1:59:34
Speaker 2: OR A.
1:59:34
Speaker 5: Us open.
1:59:36
Speaker 12: No, golf EVENT and i would argue no sporting event
1:59:41
Speaker 12: is more connected to history Than. The masters and there's
1:59:46
Speaker 12: a couple of reasons. For This augusta national And the
1:59:49
Speaker 12: masters both were brought to. This world they had their
1:59:55
Speaker 12: birth from one of the greatest players of all time
1:59:59
Speaker 12: at the conc of. His career that of Course Is.
2:00:01
Speaker 12: Bobby jones and So, through augusta Through, the masters we
2:00:05
Speaker 12: connect To The bobby jones era and all that came.
2:00:08
Speaker 12: Before it from there you have, this superlative genius golf
2:00:14
Speaker 12: course that is SHOWN on tv year after year. After
2:00:18
Speaker 12: year it is the only one of the, major events the,
2:00:21
Speaker 12: major tournaments that is on the same course. Every year because,
2:00:25
Speaker 12: of that we all are familiar, with it we all,
2:00:27
Speaker 12: know it and we all connect. With it and it
2:00:31
Speaker 12: is so difficult that every year only the best players
2:00:38
Speaker 12: survived the test that Is. The masters and so the
2:00:40
Speaker 12: list of champions is a list of the greatest players,
2:00:43
Speaker 12: in history the greatest players of. Their day you add
2:00:46
Speaker 12: all that up and it means that it is connected
2:00:50
Speaker 12: into the tissue of, the SPORT and i submit of
2:00:55
Speaker 12: all sport more deeply than any. Other event and that's
2:00:59
Speaker 12: what Makes the master just. Stand apart.
2:01:02
Speaker 5: It's been a.
2:01:03
Speaker 2: While since we've Talked. To paul what is the relationship
2:01:07
Speaker 2: between the players that LEFT the pga to be in
2:01:11
Speaker 2: live golf and the sport at large, right now the
2:01:16
Speaker 2: injection of finance of money into the sporting world From
2:01:20
Speaker 2: The Saudi Public. Investment fund it obviously, hit golf it's,
2:01:25
Speaker 2: hit racing it's, hit soccer it's at my world in,
2:01:29
Speaker 2: the sports in the combat. Sports world and you know
2:01:32
Speaker 2: it was not always. The smoothest has that ironed itself out?
2:01:38
Speaker 5: At, all.
2:01:40
Speaker 12: Yes, and no there's been. No Resolution The live tour
2:01:45
Speaker 12: continues to spin over in its universe AND The pga
2:01:49
Speaker 12: tour continues to spin. In it there's not, much overlap
2:01:54
Speaker 12: and they kind of have reached a point where they
2:01:56
Speaker 12: just do their own thing and don't there's there's. Not
2:02:00
Speaker 12: conflict they're just not paying attention to. Each other it
2:02:03
Speaker 12: is kind of where it is. Right now so with
2:02:06
Speaker 12: the fact that they just are both of them looking
2:02:09
Speaker 12: inward and doing their own thing, means, that yeah it's
2:02:11
Speaker 12: kind of. Gone away but there's been no resolution of
2:02:16
Speaker 12: any kind about the prospect of bringing the two. Tours together,
2:02:22
Speaker 12: like say we've seen in other sports when established leagues
2:02:27
Speaker 12: end up merging with. Renegade leagues we've seen that, in, football.
2:02:30
Speaker 12: Baseball basketball there's no movement of any kind for that
2:02:37
Speaker 12: to be happening in golf, right now they just are ignoring,
2:02:39
Speaker 12: one another which means it's quiet, And peaceful but it
2:02:43
Speaker 12: also means that the players On the live tour are,
2:02:47
Speaker 12: largely invisible kind. Of anonymous we have lost track of
2:02:54
Speaker 12: even great Players. On Live john wrong right now is
2:02:59
Speaker 12: very playing some of the best golf in, the world
2:03:03
Speaker 12: but nobody sees it doesn't register because he's doing it,
2:03:06
Speaker 12: on live and that kind of thing is is really
2:03:09
Speaker 12: sad there for the top top Players.
2:03:11
Speaker 3: On live it's it's really.
2:03:13
Speaker 5: TOO bad.
2:03:15
Speaker 2: I saw a headline about A three d. Printed iron
2:03:20
Speaker 2: Bryson to shamba with A three D printed.
2:03:25
Speaker 5: I didn't.
2:03:25
Speaker 2: KNOW this i know that there's all these crazy criteria
2:03:28
Speaker 2: and a bunch of rules. About clubs have we seen
2:03:33
Speaker 2: these clubs used in other? Major tournaments why is this?
2:03:36
Speaker 12: A headline they're, just well it's a headline because it's
2:03:39
Speaker 12: just so dang interesting and it allows for the ultimate
2:03:46
Speaker 12: of minor, detail customization because, you know really, each set
2:03:51
Speaker 12: each club can be customized by just tweaking the instructions
2:03:57
Speaker 12: that you give THE three. D printer So the cobra
2:04:00
Speaker 12: company is offering these on the marketplace. Right now they're
2:04:03
Speaker 12: pretty pricey, right now and they haven't established a great,
2:04:08
Speaker 12: market share but, they're very, very INTERESTING and i think they.
2:04:13
Speaker 12: ARE that i think they will continue to gain footing
2:04:17
Speaker 12: in the market as people learn more about them and
2:04:20
Speaker 12: learn more about how to tweak the construction of the
2:04:23
Speaker 12: club in such a way that matches what they want
2:04:26
Speaker 12: to have for. Their SWINGS so i think it's a,
2:04:29
Speaker 12: coming THING and i think it's really interesting for.
2:04:32
Speaker 2: My ignorance is is it just the shafts of the
2:04:35
Speaker 2: club that IS three? D printed the head IS three? D.
2:04:38
Speaker 12: Printed yeah which means also because of the WAY three d,
2:04:42
Speaker 12: printing works they can make adjustments on the inside of
2:04:45
Speaker 12: the head while they're. Printing it it's really. Fascinating stuff.
2:04:49
Speaker 2: Wild technology that's one thing that always stays ahead of
2:04:52
Speaker 2: us in these.
2:04:53
Speaker 5: Sports, worlds, yeah true.
2:04:56
Speaker 2: All right so maybe someone who's early in their round
2:05:00
Speaker 2: or or not we're not talking, about already that you
2:05:02
Speaker 2: think is going to have A. Great masters is there
2:05:04
Speaker 2: somebody a dark horse looming?
2:05:06
Speaker 5: Out?
2:05:06
Speaker 12: There yeah what a what a. Great question we're we're
2:05:15
Speaker 12: getting late enough in. The day they of course are
2:05:17
Speaker 12: In the Eastern the eastern. Time zone that most players
2:05:21
Speaker 12: are are actually finishing up. Their rounds there's the later
2:05:26
Speaker 12: tea times are halfway through the front nine, right now
2:05:31
Speaker 12: and so they're starting to get enough holes that we
2:05:34
Speaker 12: should have a sense of how well they are. Playing
2:05:38
Speaker 12: there there are a couple of names to really keep an,
2:05:40
Speaker 12: eye on and let me first give some. Context there
2:05:44
Speaker 12: there are several mathematical measures you can apply To the
2:05:47
Speaker 12: masters more than any other place because it is the
2:05:50
Speaker 12: same course, each year AND when i say any, other
2:05:53
Speaker 12: place in any of the, other majors because it's the.
2:05:55
Speaker 12: Same course and the two that show up the time and,
2:06:00
Speaker 12: time again and the most strongly is that the players
2:06:03
Speaker 12: who win At the masters are in the top twenty in,
2:06:05
Speaker 12: the world and they are in form, right now they're playing,
2:06:09
Speaker 12: well recently and so you add those two things together
2:06:13
Speaker 12: and it kind of points to a couple names that
2:06:16
Speaker 12: we're not surprised to see up near. The Top To xander,
2:06:19
Speaker 12: Schoffley certainly, rory McElroy he's in. Good Form tommy fleetwood
2:06:24
Speaker 12: is playing.
2:06:24
Speaker 3: Well lately.
2:06:27
Speaker 12: You've Got matt fitzpatrick coming off a recent win and
2:06:31
Speaker 12: again a former major. Champion himself these are the kinds
2:06:36
Speaker 12: of names that you want to, look at and that
2:06:40
Speaker 12: would really be in position to make a run At
2:06:45
Speaker 12: the masters in terms of those players who maybe didn't
2:06:50
Speaker 12: get a lot of conversation from. The beginning very Intrigued
2:06:54
Speaker 12: With sam burns right at the top of. The LEADERBOARD like,
2:06:56
Speaker 12: i say he's in the conversation of best player without.
2:06:59
Speaker 12: A major he take that step. This week totally can see.
2:07:03
Speaker 12: That happening i'm also just cheering for and really Intrigued With.
2:07:09
Speaker 12: Justin Rose justin rose has three second, place finishes including
2:07:14
Speaker 12: last year he lost in a Playoff to. Rory McElroy,
2:07:19
Speaker 12: great guy great PLAYER Of us. Open champ i'd love
2:07:23
Speaker 12: To See justin rose make some noise and he's within.
2:07:25
Speaker 12: Shouting distance he's within striking distance, right now so he
2:07:28
Speaker 12: could make. A move and there's so many stories Of,
2:07:32
Speaker 12: the Masters and i've just got, to say you. Mentioned
2:07:35
Speaker 12: it it is so fun To See freddie couples on.
2:07:37
Speaker 12: The leaderboard now he's not going, to win but it's
2:07:41
Speaker 12: just fun to see.
2:07:41
Speaker 3: Him there.
2:07:43
Speaker 2: The conspicuous Absence Of tiger woods is something that's always
2:07:48
Speaker 2: going to be talked about whenever it comes around At,
2:07:51
Speaker 2: the masters and unfortunately he was in the headlines again
2:07:54
Speaker 2: for the, WRONG reasons i guess a couple of. Weeks
2:07:57
Speaker 2: ago now sounds like he's headed in the right direction
2:08:01
Speaker 2: with some treatment and things. Like THAT but i just
2:08:03
Speaker 2: wanted to get your Thoughts On tiger woods and the
2:08:06
Speaker 2: ongoing battle for him and, you know his place in
2:08:10
Speaker 2: golf at, this point because, you know when we do
2:08:14
Speaker 2: hear Anything, about tiger we click and, We, say okay what's?
2:08:18
Speaker 5: Going on but unfortunately it's not golf. Right, now yeah a.
2:08:23
Speaker 12: Couple things first, of all, Of course tiger is an
2:08:26
Speaker 12: absolute legend of, the game one of, THE greatest i,
2:08:29
Speaker 12: would argue one of the two greatest players ever to touch,
2:08:32
Speaker 12: a club.
2:08:34
Speaker 1: And.
2:08:34
Speaker 12: Absolutely electric we love watching him. Play GOLF but i
2:08:38
Speaker 12: think we that means me personally and the entire. SPORTING
2:08:43
Speaker 12: community i think we have placed the wrong expectation and
2:08:48
Speaker 12: asked the wrong Question. Of tiger his body has just been,
2:08:52
Speaker 12: through hell some of it, athletically induced some of it induced,
2:08:56
Speaker 12: through accident but his body has been just ripped apart more,
2:09:00
Speaker 12: than once and all throughout this we always respond, by
2:09:04
Speaker 12: saying when can we see you? Play again in, other
2:09:07
Speaker 12: words it's about us in our entertainment through, it all
2:09:12
Speaker 12: he isn't. Saying this this is me SAYING what. I
2:09:14
Speaker 12: SEE but i think it's clear that what's come of
2:09:17
Speaker 12: it is an opioid addiction. To painkillers and who is
2:09:22
Speaker 12: surprised at that after all, the surgeries all.
2:09:24
Speaker 3: THE injuries.
2:09:27
Speaker 12: I think all of us have family or friends who
2:09:30
Speaker 12: have been affected. By ADDICTION and i think now is
2:09:35
Speaker 12: the time for us to be in Support of tiger
2:09:39
Speaker 12: and focused on his health personally and his. Well being
2:09:42
Speaker 12: and if he never, plays again it doesn't diminish at
2:09:45
Speaker 12: all his standing as a legend in. THE game i
2:09:48
Speaker 12: think what matters now is his.
2:09:49
Speaker 5: WELL being i.
2:09:51
Speaker 2: Think that's, well SAID and i think since his career
2:09:55
Speaker 2: started to, slow down the expectations that you you just
2:10:01
Speaker 2: mentioned have been misplaced or unrealistic. Or whatever it's such
2:10:06
Speaker 2: a unique dynamic in all of, pro sport and you.
2:10:11
Speaker 5: Know there was before the. Comeback win.
2:10:14
Speaker 2: We were a decade Removed from tiger's last major victory
2:10:18
Speaker 2: and people were still, just like What.
2:10:19
Speaker 5: About tiger you don't do that with.
2:10:22
Speaker 2: Anybody else you don't do that with basketball players or
2:10:24
Speaker 2: baseball pitchers or anything. Like that but, oddly enough because
2:10:28
Speaker 2: of who he was, in golf we did That, with
2:10:29
Speaker 2: tiger and we're still doing it in, some regards even
2:10:32
Speaker 2: though it's very clear that his best days, of golf
2:10:35
Speaker 2: because of those injuries you mentioned and, other reasons are well.
2:10:39
Speaker 5: Behind him. It's, wild, yeah, yeah yeah.
2:10:41
Speaker 6: It.
2:10:42
Speaker 12: Is well he has shown an absolutely remarkable ability to
2:10:47
Speaker 12: come back. From injury he has shown an ability to remake,
2:10:51
Speaker 12: his swing And what. Tiger woods remaking his swing Is
2:10:55
Speaker 12: Like steph curry changing his. Jump Shot but tiger has,
2:10:59
Speaker 12: done it and he's done. It successfully and through, ALL
2:11:05
Speaker 12: that i, think THAT like, I say i think we've
2:11:10
Speaker 12: landed on the wrong place in our collective relationship with
2:11:14
Speaker 12: him and focused on his. Coming, back well at, this
2:11:19
Speaker 12: point his coming back has to do with something irrelated
2:11:23
Speaker 12: to golf. At all it's about his health and.
2:11:26
Speaker 3: Well Being.
2:11:28
Speaker 12: And i'm sad that he has put that he has
2:11:33
Speaker 12: landed in. This place but don't WE All, o see
2:11:37
Speaker 12: all of us have family or friends that have been affected.
2:11:40
Speaker 3: BY this i.
2:11:41
Speaker 12: Sure do and if you.
2:11:43
Speaker 5: If, you don't you're incredibly lucky and or we're not.
2:11:47
Speaker 12: Paying attention that's, also possible and it, makes sense, after
2:11:54
Speaker 12: all he's been. Through that at the end of that
2:11:57
Speaker 12: trail is an. Opioid, addiction well that, just sucks and
2:12:00
Speaker 12: that's so hard and my heart breaks. For him but
2:12:05
Speaker 12: Right now I'm just i'm concerned about him. Getting well.
2:12:11
Speaker 5: That Is.
2:12:12
Speaker 2: Paul pugmyer he Is our. Masters expert he is our.
2:12:15
Speaker 2: Golf insider you can hear Him On Utah golf Radio
2:12:18
Speaker 2: on saturday's right HERE on espn seven hundred and ninety TWO.
2:12:21
Speaker 2: One fm he's also the President of First. T, utah
2:12:25
Speaker 2: paul always love talking golf with you because you educate
2:12:29
Speaker 2: me so much every.
2:12:30
Speaker 5: Single time thank you for joining.
2:12:32
Speaker 12: Me today appreciate, it though see.
2:12:34
Speaker 5: Thank You That's. Paul pugmyer. Great stuff.
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Speaker 2: would do it. Every year they. Just would that's, the
2:17:23
Speaker 2: answer whether or not there's a. Real, advantage okay it
2:17:27
Speaker 2: doesn't help that much to, be older, more, Experienced maybe
2:17:33
Speaker 2: but like the return, Missionary thing hey go take two
2:17:36
Speaker 2: years away from working out and away from football and
2:17:38
Speaker 2: not having a real weight to lift up and then.
2:17:42
Speaker 5: Come back that's not. An advantage in, this proposal.
2:17:48
Speaker 2: You would have five years from whichever, happens first you
2:17:53
Speaker 2: turning nineteen years old.
2:17:54
Speaker 5: Or graduating from.
2:17:55
Speaker 2: High school and obviously most people turn nineteen well after
2:17:58
Speaker 2: they graduate from, high school so for most it would
2:18:01
Speaker 2: be from your.
2:18:02
Speaker 5: Graduation date you've got five years. To play five you. Get.
2:18:08
Speaker 2: Injured sorry the only thing that would allow you to
2:18:14
Speaker 2: pause that clock would be, military service, CHURCH service lds missions,
2:18:22
Speaker 2: do count or, maternity leave which of course is for your,
2:18:27
Speaker 2: female athletes not for football or men's.
2:18:30
Speaker 5: Basketball players BUT the ncaa panel is going to be.
2:18:36
Speaker 2: Discussing this this reflects some of the language in the,
2:18:39
Speaker 2: Executive order it reflects some of the language In The tommy.
2:18:42
Speaker 2: Tuberville proposal an age. Based, restriction again it feels like
2:18:48
Speaker 2: it's kind of missing.
2:18:49
Speaker 5: The mark.
2:18:52
Speaker 2: The twenty five year olds have always been outliers and will.
2:18:55
Speaker 2: REMAIN outliers i think we got a little bit more
2:19:00
Speaker 2: of that in recent years because OF the. Covid, Babies,
2:19:04
Speaker 2: right yeah there was a there WAS the.
2:19:07
Speaker 4: Covid year the eligibility was it was wiped away, like
2:19:11
Speaker 4: THAT just covid didn't count for any count as a year.
2:19:14
Speaker 5: Of playing, So, everybody yes we had.
2:19:17
Speaker 2: Older players everybody that had eligibility in twenty twenty had
2:19:22
Speaker 2: six years of, college eligibility well six years to. Play,
2:19:26
Speaker 2: five yeah and we're now rounding out. Of, that finally
2:19:31
Speaker 2: the true freshman of, TWENTY twenty i guess didn't have
2:19:36
Speaker 2: to worry about. Twenty twenty so they've got the twenty,
2:19:40
Speaker 2: one season the twenty, two season the twenty, three season
2:19:42
Speaker 2: the twenty, four season the twenty. Five season twenty twenty
2:19:45
Speaker 2: six will be the first year that we don't HAVE
2:19:48
Speaker 2: any covid casualties in it as Far as. I'm aware,
2:19:52
Speaker 2: of course if you had a medical red shirt or two,
2:19:56
Speaker 2: or three like is the case with some of, these
2:19:58
Speaker 2: guys twenty twenty six could be the seventh or eighth
2:20:02
Speaker 2: year of. Your eligibility, but again those people have always
2:20:05
Speaker 2: been the outliers and will remain. The outliers contrary to,
2:20:10
Speaker 2: popular belief there's not a lot of folks that would
2:20:12
Speaker 2: rather stay in college than go explore, pro opportunities even
2:20:16
Speaker 2: if those are overseas pro opportunities. OR whatever i guess
2:20:19
Speaker 2: in football that might be a little bit different because
2:20:21
Speaker 2: you don't really have Like A european basketball league equivalent.
2:20:25
Speaker 5: In football but.
2:20:29
Speaker 2: The big issue THAT the ncaa needs to figure out
2:20:31
Speaker 2: is free and unfettered and.
2:20:33
Speaker 5: Excessive transferring we've.
2:20:37
Speaker 2: Got it AND when i say, Figure out i'm not
2:20:38
Speaker 2: saying they need to, stop it because there are a
2:20:40
Speaker 2: lot of people out there who make a very strong
2:20:42
Speaker 2: case as to why you should just allow it and
2:20:45
Speaker 2: deal with the stress points that come because.
2:20:48
Speaker 5: Of it.
2:20:51
Speaker 2: And that's kind OF where i was when this whole
2:20:53
Speaker 2: thing was being talked about seven eight. YEARS ago i
2:20:57
Speaker 2: don't Know if i'm still there because we've seen the
2:21:00
Speaker 2: actual results and now there's, some data again Referenced By
2:21:03
Speaker 2: morgan scally in our, conversation earlier about how like you
2:21:07
Speaker 2: think you're doing what's best for your career by transferring
2:21:11
Speaker 2: to that third or, fourth school but you're not actually
2:21:14
Speaker 2: doing what's best for. Your career if you look, at,
2:21:16
Speaker 2: reps production, playing time. Pro prospects now that we have
2:21:21
Speaker 2: some data on, those things it might be something you.
2:21:23
Speaker 2: Can present, and, then ultimately and, most importantly with all,
2:21:28
Speaker 2: of this whatever conversation happens and whatever conclusion comes from,
2:21:34
Speaker 2: that conversation AS an ncaa panel, discusses it they have
2:21:38
Speaker 2: to figure out the enforceability, of things and we have
2:21:41
Speaker 2: to figure out how to take back some of the
2:21:43
Speaker 2: power from these attorneys that are, just like whatever your,
2:21:48
Speaker 2: rule is, it's unconstitutional, it's illegal it's an unfair, labor
2:21:51
Speaker 2: Practice and i'm going to sue to make it not
2:21:54
Speaker 2: apply to my client because as soon as you establish
2:21:59
Speaker 2: the precedent, in court that rule no longer applies.
2:22:03
Speaker 5: To anyone and.
2:22:04
Speaker 2: That's where the biggest failures. Have occurred that's where they continue.
2:22:07
Speaker 5: To occur.
2:22:10
Speaker 2: AND again i say failures because that's my perspective. ON
2:22:12
Speaker 2: it i, don't Know like rob right the third doesn't
2:22:15
Speaker 2: feel like this is a failure, Right now he's potentially
2:22:19
Speaker 2: cashing in on his. Third stop we saw plenty of
2:22:22
Speaker 2: football players doing the.
2:22:23
Speaker 5: SAME thing, i Mean you.
2:22:24
Speaker 4: Turnidaunidad shambles he he's like this is actually a success
2:22:29
Speaker 4: for the for.
2:22:29
Speaker 5: The, players, yeah look you don't even have to look.
2:22:32
Speaker 2: That far if you're If You're, Noah, benny okay you
2:22:38
Speaker 2: were At the University, of utah you Transferred To. Weaver
2:22:40
Speaker 2: state you want to come back To the University. Of utah,
2:22:43
Speaker 2: so far your transfers have been, penalty free. All right
2:22:47
Speaker 2: If You're, morgan scally you don't want there to be
2:22:50
Speaker 2: strictures placed on. That player If You're, noah benny, YOU'RE
2:22:55
Speaker 2: like i want to go play with my. BROTHER man
2:22:57
Speaker 2: i want to go back to a PLACE where i
2:22:58
Speaker 2: ALWAYS thought i was good enough, to play AND maybe
2:23:01
Speaker 2: i had to go somewhere else to prove to EVERYONE
2:23:03
Speaker 2: that i was good enough to. Play, there Well now.
2:23:05
Speaker 2: I'm back i'm just using him as. An example there's
2:23:08
Speaker 2: plenty of. OTHER guys, i mean what would You tall
2:23:11
Speaker 2: football's roster look like this year without the?
2:23:14
Speaker 5: Transfer, portal now would They have.
2:23:18
Speaker 2: Smith's note on, The roster Jonah lea a on, The
2:23:21
Speaker 2: Roster John henry daley on? The, ROSTER Yeah jj buchan
2:23:25
Speaker 2: is on. The roster presumably those guys aren't, going anywhere
2:23:28
Speaker 2: so in some ways you're. Better off but TAKE Put
2:23:34
Speaker 2: jj buchanan back on, this roster And Take kyrie Scholz
2:23:39
Speaker 2: And braden Pegan And ricky johnson and some of these other,
2:23:42
Speaker 2: guys off and then what do.
2:23:44
Speaker 4: You have by, The Way, ricky johnson that was a
2:23:47
Speaker 4: new shout out for Me By. Morgan scali yeah that's,
2:23:50
Speaker 4: a guy, you, know dog hear.
2:23:52
Speaker 5: That one.
2:23:54
Speaker 4: We'll keep an Eye On ricky johnson Now that morgan
2:23:57
Speaker 4: scally has has shouted him out publicly.
2:23:59
Speaker 5: There.
2:23:59
Speaker 4: Too yeah the point is is very well made because
2:24:04
Speaker 4: there's the transfer port the, transfer portal giveth the, transfer
2:24:09
Speaker 4: portal take, it, Away right and so if you want
2:24:11
Speaker 4: to go revisionist history, to, say hey if there was,
2:24:15
Speaker 4: some order if there was some, order here we'd still have,
2:24:19
Speaker 4: this guy, this guy. This guy but, it's like but
2:24:21
Speaker 4: you'd also not have, this guy, this guy. This guy
2:24:24
Speaker 4: obviously long term you want, more order but, for now
2:24:29
Speaker 4: you Play the you do the best with the system
2:24:32
Speaker 4: or lack thereof as, you, Can right so.
2:24:37
Speaker 2: Let him talk, about it let him figure, something out
2:24:39
Speaker 2: and then like when we actually see these rules put,
2:24:43
Speaker 2: into place this executive order and all that performative political,
2:24:47
Speaker 2: theater stuff until you actually have an enforceable rule. In
2:24:51
Speaker 2: place it doesn't change, college football the, transfer portal secondary.
2:24:57
Speaker 2: Window closing that's an enforceable rule that they put, in
2:25:00
Speaker 2: place but it's only it's only marginally enforceable because there
2:25:08
Speaker 2: are workarounds for it and the proposal out there, that're,
2:25:12
Speaker 2: like yeah if you try to work, around that we're
2:25:14
Speaker 2: gonna find you twenty percent of your budget and we're
2:25:17
Speaker 2: going to suspend your coach for. Six games that is
2:25:21
Speaker 2: a sincere effort to send the message we intend for this.
2:25:27
Speaker 2: To stick whatever comes out of the next decision, being
2:25:31
Speaker 2: made you basically have to put that level of threat,
2:25:34
Speaker 2: behind it and then you have to win that threat
2:25:37
Speaker 2: if it ever makes it to a court. Of loss
2:25:39
Speaker 2: so we got like five hurdles between any proposal and
2:25:44
Speaker 2: something actually changing. The landscape doesn't mean you, shouldn't try
2:25:50
Speaker 2: but it JUST means i won't overreact.
2:25:52
Speaker 5: To anything got to take a.
2:25:55
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Speaker 11: One, MINUTE yeah i like to get here a little
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Speaker 11: bit earlier to help you bridge the gap between your
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2:32:20
Speaker 5: It's, Fine, Hi, Sean, Hi hello. I'm, tired no you're
2:32:24
Speaker 5: not a. Little, bit nope you're fine that you. Know what,
2:32:28
Speaker 5: I'm fine you. Are, fine yeah. Thank you you're not
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Speaker 3: Like.
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Speaker 11: ME yeah i did catch a little bit of the transfer,
2:32:41
Speaker 11: portal CONVERSATION and i think it's interesting to Consider what utah, would,
2:32:46
Speaker 11: prefer right because you, reference, like hey without the, transfer
2:32:51
Speaker 11: portal we wouldn't have all, these, Guys right but without the,
2:32:55
Speaker 11: transfer portal we would have still had these.
2:32:57
Speaker 3: Other.
2:32:57
Speaker 2: Guys yeah, ON balance i will very confidently say that
2:33:02
Speaker 2: the transfer portal has been a over, the years a
2:33:06
Speaker 2: massive net gain For the University.
2:33:08
Speaker 11: Of utah you, think, So, yes okay, Definitively YES because
2:33:12
Speaker 11: i was Debating that it's like If you'r morganer went
2:33:15
Speaker 11: before because when it first when it when it first became,
2:33:19
Speaker 11: a reality nobody. Wanted it and now what's ultimately manifested
2:33:23
Speaker 11: is the majority of the teams in college football they
2:33:27
Speaker 11: were at, the top are still more or.
2:33:30
Speaker 2: Less there what would you what would you tell football
2:33:33
Speaker 2: look like last Year Without Devin dan Pierre And John.
2:33:36
Speaker 11: Henry, DAILY yeah i mean the hope would be whoever
2:33:40
Speaker 11: they were able to recruit and develop would have been
2:33:43
Speaker 11: fine in. That spot it's it's impossible to say because
2:33:47
Speaker 11: They had they're.
2:33:48
Speaker 2: Kind of possible to say because those guys were playing
2:33:52
Speaker 2: in front of guys that you recruited.
2:33:53
Speaker 5: And, DEVELOPED well, i mean they had to go.
2:33:55
Speaker 11: Find somebody they didn't, have anybody right and obviously turned
2:34:00
Speaker 11: out to be a.
2:34:00
Speaker 5: Huge win but. They Didn't charlie bentley Didn't didn't they.
2:34:04
Speaker 2: Didn't not have anybody because of the. Transfer portal they
2:34:07
Speaker 2: they didn't have anybody because of cam rising situation and.
2:34:11
Speaker 5: His graduation it was, just, like oh. He's, gone now.
2:34:14
Speaker 11: Who's the kid that transferred To like indiana, OR something
2:34:18
Speaker 11: i don't remember. His name Didn't We john tuttle like
2:34:21
Speaker 11: the hopes and look obviously, not him but the hope
2:34:24
Speaker 11: would be somebody like him you were able to recruit.
2:34:27
Speaker 5: And develop but to, your point they they didn't. Have,
2:34:29
Speaker 5: anybody Yeah.
2:34:30
Speaker 2: And utah is among the one hundred and twelve schools
2:34:35
Speaker 2: in college football that have benefited greatly from transfer players.
2:34:39
Speaker 2: Coming in, and yes that comes with a loss sometimes,
2:34:42
Speaker 2: As well and that's why you have to be okay
2:34:46
Speaker 2: and deal. With it and you have to trust that
2:34:48
Speaker 2: your eye for talent and your idea of what fits
2:34:52
Speaker 2: with your program is better than the. Next guys and
2:34:54
Speaker 2: that's it's it's not dissimilar from high.
2:34:57
Speaker 5: School recruiting it's just a lot more.
2:34:59
Speaker 2: High, state yes now there's, money, involved right and you
2:35:03
Speaker 2: got to give those.
2:35:03
Speaker 5: Guys, reps now love it or hated it is what.
2:35:07
Speaker 11: IT is, i mean we can debate what you'd, rather
2:35:09
Speaker 11: have but you have to just deal with what's in front.
2:35:12
Speaker 1: Of you.
2:35:14
Speaker 5: And as far as whether, Or not like if we
2:35:17
Speaker 5: just focused.
2:35:18
Speaker 11: On this WINDOW and i, asked you would you rather
2:35:20
Speaker 11: have the players that left or the players that?
2:35:22
Speaker 5: Came in what would you say?
2:35:25
Speaker 2: TO that, I mean i'd rather have the players, that,
2:35:29
Speaker 2: Left right but that's, a devil, you know versus the devil. You,
2:35:33
Speaker 2: don't yeah in a lot of, Cases EXACTLY and i
2:35:37
Speaker 2: will potentially revise. THAT answer i DON'T think. I will
2:35:40
Speaker 2: i think that those guys left for a very. GOOD
2:35:42
Speaker 2: reason i think that those guys Are at michigan and
2:35:46
Speaker 2: being paid It by michigan for very. GOOD reason i
2:35:49
Speaker 2: will say, this though the, free transfer the open the
2:35:53
Speaker 2: multiple transfer thing IS something i don't want to. See
2:35:55
Speaker 2: continue and let's say we go to one penalty free
2:36:00
Speaker 2: transfer and we do this revisionist history thing based. On,
2:36:03
Speaker 2: That Well John henry daley is. Still here he would
2:36:07
Speaker 2: have used his free transfer to go To the University, of,
2:36:10
Speaker 2: Utah Right smith thode still could, have left so, HE
2:36:13
Speaker 2: Gone jj, buchanan gone jonahla a. A gone but at
2:36:18
Speaker 2: least one of those. Guys stays you Don't Lose Devin
2:36:22
Speaker 2: dan pierre in. Either case but if free transfer was
2:36:25
Speaker 2: still a thing and you had to pay or overpay
2:36:28
Speaker 2: in order to keep, him here maybe you don't anymore,
2:36:30
Speaker 2: because hey you've already used.
2:36:31
Speaker 5: That transfer we know you're not gonna want to sit.
2:36:33
Speaker 2: A year i sit out for, a YEAR and i
2:36:37
Speaker 2: really DO feel i know that a lot of people
2:36:39
Speaker 2: do this thing where it's like it's all about the
2:36:40
Speaker 2: best interest of.
2:36:41
Speaker 5: The kids and, it's, like yes.
2:36:43
Speaker 2: It is but we have plenty of awareness now that
2:36:47
Speaker 2: transferring to a new school, every year in the vast
2:36:51
Speaker 2: majority of cases is not in the best.
2:36:52
Speaker 5: Interest of the kid, in football.
2:36:55
Speaker 2: For sure, in FOOTBALL and i mean even, in basketball
2:36:58
Speaker 2: we got to see what the data looks like on
2:37:00
Speaker 2: some of.
2:37:01
Speaker 5: These guys, But.
2:37:02
Speaker 11: Well michigan just won a national championship with their entire
2:37:06
Speaker 11: starting five being transfers and three of them being.
2:37:08
Speaker 5: Double transfers SO but i think.
2:37:10
Speaker 11: You're right, IN football i think because at, some point
2:37:13
Speaker 11: and you tell me you would, know better at some
2:37:14
Speaker 11: point you're going to get a bit of a rep
2:37:16
Speaker 11: like if this is your fourth school in, four years
2:37:19
Speaker 11: you know at.
2:37:19
Speaker 5: Some, POINT well i think coaches do it. Even, SUBCONSCIOUSLY yeah.
2:37:24
Speaker 2: I think that the modern day coach, knows, like hey
2:37:26
Speaker 2: we're getting new guys, every year and they're coming from
2:37:28
Speaker 2: other schools in a lot, of CASES and i think
2:37:32
Speaker 2: they're still subconsciously going like to, your point but this
2:37:36
Speaker 2: is his, Fourth, SCHOOL.
2:37:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, i mean what's?
2:37:40
Speaker 2: His, Deal, yeah Like this offens's kid was great in?
2:37:43
Speaker 5: High school why is he now in his?
2:37:46
Speaker 11: Fifth COLLEGE and i think it's probably a little bit
2:37:48
Speaker 11: unfair to hone in on in a vacuum this transfer
2:37:52
Speaker 11: portal because went obviously left and took the house and
2:37:56
Speaker 11: the kids in the yard and the boat and. Everything,
2:37:58
Speaker 11: else yeah it's Not like morgan's going to bounce to,
2:38:01
Speaker 11: You Know notre dame next year and take all the.
2:38:03
Speaker 2: Good players if you go back to do your previous
2:38:06
Speaker 2: and do the, same exercise there's a lot less movement
2:38:10
Speaker 2: under that. Transfer portal but like you Lost ja Quinn,
2:38:12
Speaker 2: and jackson You, lost keanutanovasa.
2:38:17
Speaker 5: But You Got Devin. Dan, pierton.
2:38:20
Speaker 2: Again you're asking, the question would you rather have the
2:38:22
Speaker 2: guy who showed up or the guys?
2:38:24
Speaker 5: Who? Left right in, that case it's.
2:38:25
Speaker 11: Pretty, easy yeah that's that's why, you know you have
2:38:29
Speaker 11: to really pan out and look at the COURSE of
2:38:31
Speaker 11: i guess this will be the fifth year that transfer.
2:38:33
Speaker 5: Portals, reality Yeah.
2:38:35
Speaker 2: And utah made a bunch of hay before we called
2:38:37
Speaker 2: it a transfer portal with bringing in selectively bringing in
2:38:40
Speaker 2: certain guys that were massively important to, the team and
2:38:44
Speaker 2: the rules were different then and they either had to
2:38:47
Speaker 2: be grad transfers or they had to sit out. A
2:38:49
Speaker 2: year imagine If cam rising never came To the University.
2:38:53
Speaker 2: Of utah Imagine If giohnny paul never came To the University.
2:38:56
Speaker 2: Of utah imagine if you never had that single year With.
2:38:59
Speaker 2: THEIR carrington, i mean you've had a bunch, of really really,
2:39:02
Speaker 2: excellent players including in the Case of Rising And. Giohnny
2:39:06
Speaker 2: paul that's two of the best players on their respective
2:39:10
Speaker 2: sides of the ball in the history of.
2:39:11
Speaker 5: The.
2:39:11
Speaker 11: Sport, Yeah YEAH and i was one hundred percent concerned
2:39:17
Speaker 11: just based off Of how utah football has always been
2:39:20
Speaker 11: run when this thing came to the table as. A
2:39:23
Speaker 11: reality i'm still wildly concerned about the basketball side.
2:39:26
Speaker 5: Of things but, You know kyle's. Smart guy morgan's a.
2:39:30
Speaker 5: Smart guy you got to adjust to.
2:39:31
Speaker 11: The times but The way utah was built, and Developed The,
2:39:34
Speaker 11: eric Weddles The, alex smiths the two star kids that
2:39:37
Speaker 11: stay here for three and four years and turned into,
2:39:39
Speaker 11: great players were.
2:39:41
Speaker 5: They going to be able.
2:39:42
Speaker 11: TO adjust i think the answer, is yes they have been,
2:39:45
Speaker 11: able to but they're in, my opinion they're still looking
2:39:49
Speaker 11: UP at Byu in texas hect.
2:39:50
Speaker 5: This year how much of that is economic right.
2:39:53
Speaker 2: And the Beauty, for utah if you can call it
2:39:55
Speaker 2: that is that when this, change happened you were already
2:39:59
Speaker 2: In the pac twelve.
2:39:59
Speaker 5: Cou offer you were already In the big.
2:40:02
Speaker 2: Twelve conference if you had Been A mount west school
2:40:05
Speaker 2: when that rule came, into place, then, yeah nope.
2:40:09
Speaker 5: Table scraps none of those.
2:40:10
Speaker 2: Guys from The Great mountain west teams finished their career
2:40:14
Speaker 2: At the University, of, utah right none. Of, them ye
2:40:18
Speaker 2: like My guy weddell is as loyal to the soil as. They,
2:40:21
Speaker 2: Come right i'm sorry you're not immune to like a
2:40:26
Speaker 2: two million dollar offer when You're all american. Defensive back so, interesting,
2:40:31
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2:40:41
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2:40:44
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