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- 0:05Speaker 1: Birds are related to dinosaurs? Written by Tom Collins. This
- 0:11article is being read by an automated voice brought to
- 0:14you by Everlett. Ottawa native and paleontologist Steve Bruceta has
- 0:19a new book out. The Dinosaur Expert's new topic is birds.
- 0:23Brusat who served as an advisor to the movie Jurassic
- 0:26World and is a professor at the University of Edinburgh
- 0:29in Scotland, recently published The Story of Birds. The book
- 0:34discusses the links between the dinosaurs and today's winged creatures. Brusatta,
- 0:39an Ottawa Township High School graduate who is a professional
- 0:42paleontologist and professor at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland,
- 0:46currently is promoting his book across a US tour. He
- 0:49agreed to a Q and A with Shaw Local. How
- 0:52did a dinosaur expert come to be interested in birds
- 0:55and what spurred you to identify links between the dinosaurs
- 0:59and today's world creatures. When I first became obsessed with
- 1:03fossils as a teenager growing up in Ottawa, it was
- 1:06dinosaurs that hooked my interest. First. I read every book
- 1:09on dinosaurs I could find. I dragged my parents and
- 1:12brothers to the field Museum in Chicago and the Burpie
- 1:16Museum in Rockford. For goodness knows how many times I
- 1:19wanted to see the dinosaurs. I love dinosaurs. I wanted
- 1:22to dig up dinosaurs and study dinosaurs. And I went
- 1:25to college and became a paleontologist. And for my first
- 1:28research project, my mentor in Chicago, Paul Serino, the great
- 1:32dinosaur hunter, gave me the bones of a huge meat
- 1:35eating theropod that he found in Africa. He asked me
- 1:38to figure out what it was. So I learned a
- 1:40lot about theropods and learned to understand that modern birds
- 1:43evolved from theropods much smaller ones. And when I truly
- 1:48understood that today's birds are dinoosaurs, I grew to become
- 1:51enthralled with birds too. Was there a particular species of
- 1:55bird that caught your eye and helped you draw ancestral
- 1:58links to the dinosaurs. I will admit something kind of silly,
- 2:03maybe even seditious. When I was growing up, I didn't
- 2:06like birds very much. In fact, I was kind of
- 2:08afraid of them. I remember a few times that birds
- 2:11got into our house in Ottawa, and by the way
- 2:13I reacted, you would think it was a wolverine in
- 2:16the house. I ran into my room and shut the
- 2:18door and didn't come out until the bird was gone.
- 2:21There was just something about the flapping wings that spooked me,
- 2:24the manic energy. I'm better now, though, because I've gotten
- 2:28so see so many cool birds around the world, and
- 2:31study so many bird fossils too, and I've come to
- 2:34appreciate birds as incredible feats of nature. These are animals
- 2:38that can do that thing humans have long dreamed to
- 2:41break the bonds of Earth and defy gravity and fly,
- 2:44and they totally transform their bodies to do so. They
- 2:47have feathers and wings and light bones that make an
- 2:50incredible flying machine. They grow super fast and are warm
- 2:53blooded and very smart, and they inherited all of these
- 2:57things from dinosaurs. They are real, true living dinosaurs, and
- 3:01I don't think we appreciate that awesome fact enough. Without
- 3:05giving away any spoilers, we do want people to read
- 3:08the book for themselves. What new fact seems to be
- 3:11gaining the most interest among your readers and at your presentations.
- 3:16I've written a few books before, but this is the
- 3:18first time I am doing a book tour in the US,
- 3:20and it's been a lot of fun. I've been in Washington,
- 3:23d C. Seattle, Bozeman, Montana, and now I'm writing you
- 3:27from Saint Louis, where my parents have come over to
- 3:29see me, and I'll then go to Boston and then
- 3:31back home to Scotland. What I've gathered from audiences so
- 3:34far is two particular areas of fascination. First, this basic
- 3:39but profound idea that today's birds are dinosaurs. It still
- 3:43hasn't really percolated into the pop culture. But birds are
- 3:46dinosaurs in the same way bats are mammals. They are
- 3:49just strange dinosaurs that developed wings and started to fly,
- 3:53and they are the only ones that live on today. Sure,
- 3:56a bird doesn't look at all like a t rex
- 3:58or brontosaurus. Dinosaurs were very diverse, there were many different groups.
- 4:03Bats don't look anything like an elephant or horse or monkey,
- 4:06but they are still mammals. The second thing is that
- 4:09there are so many fantastic extinct birds, birds that once
- 4:13thrived but then died out, and only their fossils remain.
- 4:17There were terror birds taller than humans with heads the
- 4:19size of a horse's head capped with a hooked beak,
- 4:22which were the top predators in South America for tens
- 4:25of millions of years. There were elephant birds in Madagascar
- 4:29that lived up to their name. They weighed over fifteine
- 4:32hundred pounds and laid eggs the size of watermelons. There
- 4:36were demon ducks in Australia that were like one hundred
- 4:38times the size of a modern duck. There were giant
- 4:41soaring birds that once sailed the world's thermal wings on
- 4:44wingspans twenty feet wide. And I could go on and
- 4:48on looking at the world around us. Today we wouldn't
- 4:51know these birds ever existed. What was the reaction from
- 4:55your colleagues and your readers when you discussed your research?
- 4:59Were people surprised or maybe even skeptical of links between
- 5:02dinosaurs and birds? In the scientific community, there is no
- 5:06debate birds are dinosaurs. They evolved from dinosaurs. They are
- 5:11part of the dinosaur family tree. This idea is not
- 5:13a new one proclaimed by brazen young scientists. No, it
- 5:17goes back to the eighteen sixties, the time of Charles Darwin,
- 5:20when scientists of the time recognized how similar the skeletons
- 5:24of birds and dinosaurs were in many aspects. Have you
- 5:27ever looked at a chicken foot? It has scales it
- 5:30has three main toes with claws. It looks like a
- 5:32mini t rex foot. So scientists have suspected this for
- 5:36a long time, and more recently the discovery of feathers
- 5:38on dinosaur fossils proved it, as did DNA evidence. You
- 5:43can use the DNA like a paternity test to build
- 5:45family trees, and it shows that birds are embedded within
- 5:49the reptile family tree. They are actually more closely related
- 5:52to crocodiles than crocodiles are to lizards and snakes. So
- 5:56there is no controversy among scientists, but among the public. Yeah,
- 6:00the idea is still a weird one for many people,
- 6:03and I hope the book can play a role in
- 6:05changing that. If someone were to invent time travel tomorrow
- 6:09and we could visit the age of dinosaurs, would we
- 6:11recognize any of the airborne creatures, or would the bird's
- 6:15ancestors be unrecognizable to modern eyes? It would be incredible.
- 6:20At the moment t Rex was rampaging across the American
- 6:23West about sixty six million years ago, there would have
- 6:26been a whole menagerie of birds flying, fluttering, flapping, gliding
- 6:30and soaring overhead. Many of these were primitive birds. They
- 6:34still had the sharp teeth and killer claws and long
- 6:37tails of their raptor dinosaur ancestors, but others were much
- 6:41more modern. They had beaks and light skeletons, and grew
- 6:44super fast and were warm blooded. There were true members
- 6:47of the duck and chicken group living with t Rex.
- 6:50How cool is that? What has been the reaction been
- 6:54so far promoting your book? So far, so good. It
- 6:58has been a thrill meeting a lot of new people,
- 7:00especially young people interested in science and signing the book.
- 7:04I'll tell you signing books never gets old. When I
- 7:07was a kid, I voraciously collected autographs from baseball players
- 7:11and politicians and other famous people, and I still do.
- 7:14I still ask writers to sign books for me, and
- 7:16athletes to sign memorabilia if I meet them, and I'm
- 7:19signing books for people for kids. It still blows my mind,
- 7:24and I am forever grateful, and especially for my family
- 7:27and my teachers at Wallace Grade School in Ottawa Township
- 7:29High School, who supported me fostered this weird love of
- 7:33dinosaurs and fossils that I developed as a teenager, and
- 7:36that is why I dedicated this book to my parents,
- 7:39Jim and Roxanne Brussette, longtime Ottawa Natives. Wonderful people, my heroes,