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Joni Table Talk Podcast (Video) - Faith & Liberty | Tim Barton & Rick Pearson · The Light

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  ♪♪
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  JONI: HELLO, AND WELCOME TO JONI TABLE TALK.
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  THE SHOW WHERE WE BRING YOU
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  REAL CONVERSATIONS THAT MATTER.
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  I'M YOUR HOST JONI LAMB,
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  JOIN US AS WE EXPLORE
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  UNFORGETTABLE TESTIMONIES,
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  TACKLE HARD-HITTING TOPICS,
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  AND UNCOVER THE TRUTH THAT TRANSFORMS LIVES
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  WITH AUTHENTICITY, BIBLICAL WISDOM
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  AND A HEART FOR TRANSFORMATION.
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  SO PULL UP A CHAIR,
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  JOIN US AROUND THE TABLE
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  AND LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN.
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  ♪♪
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  REBECCA: AMERICA HAS REACHED AN EXTRAORDINARY MILESTONE
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  OF 250 YEARS.
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  BUT BEYOND THE CELEBRATIONS,
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  DO WE TRULY UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE
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  OF THIS MOMENT?
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  AND WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM THE COURAGEOUS INDIVIDUALS
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  WHO RISKED EVERYTHING TO BUILD A NATION UNLIKE
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  ANYTHING THE WORLD HAS SEEN BEFORE?
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  WELCOME TO FRIENDS FROM THE TABLE.
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  I'M YOUR HOST, REBECCA WEISS,
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  AND I'M HERE WITH MY CO-HOST, CINDY JOHNSTON.
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  CINDY: HELLO.
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  REBECCA: THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
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  CINDY: OH I'M EXCITED.
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  WE HAVE A LOT TO LEARN.
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  REBECCA: WE HAVE A LOT TO LEARN.
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  CINDY: YES.
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  REBECCA: AND WE'RE EXCITED BECAUSE WE HAVE TIM BARTON AND
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  RICK PEARSON JOINING US TODAY.
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  TIM: HELLO.
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  RICK: THANK YOU.
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  REBECCA: WELL, I THINK BEFORE WE CAN GET TO WHERE WE'RE
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  GOING, WHICH IS MORE OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE
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  TALKING ABOUT WITH YOU, RICK,
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  WE HAVE TO START WITH OUR HISTORY, TIM.
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  AND, YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND AND I,
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  WE WENT AND SAW THE YOUNG WASHINGTON MOVIE,
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  WHICH WAS SO WELL DONE.
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  AND I WAS SITTING THERE WITH JONATHAN AND I WAS
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  LIKE, IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
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  I DON'T FEEL LIKE OUR GENERATION AND UNDER
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  REALLY UNDERSTANDS THE HISTORY OF AMERICA.
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  AND IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF
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  AMERICA, YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND HER IDENTITY
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  AND HER PURPOSE.
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  AND THEN HOW CAN YOU WALK INTO THE FUTURE?
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  AND SO YOU HAVE YOUR BOOK LIVES,
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  FORTUNE AND SACRED HONOR, WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT THESE
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  MEN WHO SIGNED THE DECLARATION OF
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  INDEPENDENCE AND, YOU KNOW,
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  HELPED FORGE OUR NATION.
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  SO WHY DON'T WE START THERE WITH TALK ABOUT THESE MEN?
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  TIM: YEAH.
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  SO I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE TOOK THE
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  TASK OF DOING A SHORT BIO ON ALL 56 SIGNERS IS
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  BECAUSE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED,
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  WATCHING THE MOVIE YOUNG WASHINGTON,
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  MOST PEOPLE KNOW THE NAME GEORGE WASHINGTON.
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  THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE BATTLE OF MONONGAHELA,
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  WHERE HE'S THE LAST MAN AND OFFICER
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  SURVIVING ON HORSEBACK.
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  EVERY OTHER OFFICER SHOT DOWN.
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  HE GETS BACK AND THERE'S BULLET HOLES
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  THROUGH HIS JACKET.
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  LATER, THE INDIAN CHIEFS WANT TO COME MEET THE MAN
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  THAT WAS LIKE BULLETPROOF.
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  WHEN YOU START TO LEARN THE STORY, YOU'RE GOING,
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  THIS IS INCREDIBLE.
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  AND THEN GEORGE WASHINGTON,
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  HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT I ONLY LIVE BECAUSE OF THE
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  MIRACULOUS CARE OF DIVINE PROVIDENCE.
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  IT WAS GOD'S HAND OVER ME.
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  WHEN YOU LEARN THE STORIES, YOU REALIZE,
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  FIRST OF ALL, THAT GOD WAS ABSOLUTELY PART OF THE
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  STORY THE WHOLE WAY.
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  BUT ALSO YOU REALIZE THAT THESE WERE MEN THAT
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  RECOGNIZED GOD'S HAND, AND THEY BEGIN TO BE VERY
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  DEPENDENT UPON GOD'S HAND, PRAYING
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  AND ASKING FOR GOD TO INTERVENE.
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  SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT BACK TO THE 56 MEN THAT
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  SIGNED THE DECLARATION, AND WE SAID,
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  WE WANT TO REINTRODUCE THEM WITH THESE SIMPLE
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  STORIES THAT GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE INTO WHO THEY WERE.
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  BECAUSE MOST OF US LEARN ABOUT THE FOUNDING FATHERS
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  IN GENERALIZED TERMS.
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  AND A LOT OF THE GENERALIZED TERMS ARE
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  FLATLY INCORRECT FOR LOTS OF REASONS.
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  WE LEARNED THAT MAYBE THEY WEREN'T RELIGIOUS,
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  OR THEY WERE ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, OR DEISTS,
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  OR THAT REALLY THEY WERE THESE BIGOTED,
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  RACIST SLAVEHOLDERS.
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  BUT WHEN YOU LEARN THEIR STORY, YOU REALIZE THAT,
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  OKAY, THAT'S ALMOST ENTIRELY INCORRECT WHEN
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  YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
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  AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THE 56 MEN THAT
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  SIGNED THE DECLARATION IN THIS BOOK,
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  AND WE JUST WENT BACK AND TOLD THEIR STORY WHERE
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  WE'RE HONEST, THESE WERE NOT PERFECT MEN,
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  BUT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY WERE OUTSPOKEN
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  CHRISTIANS, ORTHODOX-BELIEVING CHRISTIANS WHO
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  WERE PEOPLE THAT SOUGHT TO BE USED BY GOD AND HONOR
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  GOD WITH WHAT THEY DID.
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  AND THEN THE TITLE LIVES, FORTUNES AND SACRED HONORS
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  IS BECAUSE IN THE DECLARATION,
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  THE LAST LINE, THEY SAY, WITH A FIRM RELIANCE ON
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  DIVINE PROVIDENCE, WE MUTUALLY PLEDGE TO EACH
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  OTHER OUR LIVES, OUR FORTUNES,
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  AND OUR SACRED HONOR.
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  AND ALL OF THEM SPENT THEIR LIVES AND FORTUNE
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  AND SACRED HONOR FOR THE CAUSE OF LIBERTY.
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  TODAY, MOST OF US HAVE NO IDEA THE PRICE THEY PAID
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  OR WHAT THEIR STORY WAS.
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  SO THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO GO BACK AND RECAPTURE IT.
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  REBECCA: CAN YOU LIKE SHARE MAYBE 1 OR 2 OF THE STORIES THAT
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  STAND OUT FOR YOU, THAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH THE
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  AUDIENCE OF THE 56?
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  TIM: YEAH, SO, SO REALLY EASY EXAMPLES,
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  NAMES THAT WE ALREADY KNOW, LIKE JOHN HANCOCK,
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  SAM ADAMS, WE ALREADY KNOW THOSE NAMES.
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  THESE ARE TWO REALLY FUN EXAMPLES FOR ME BECAUSE
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  EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE POPULAR NAMES,
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  WE DON'T KNOW HARDLY ANY OF THEIR STORY.
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  SO JOHN HANCOCK, HIS DAD WAS A PASTOR.
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  HIS GRANDFATHER WAS A PASTOR.
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  HE GREW UP IN THE CHURCH.
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  NOW, AGAIN, PEOPLE KNOW HIS FAMOUS SIGNATURE.
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  THEY KNOW ALMOST NOTHING ELSE ABOUT HIM.
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  HIS FATHER AND GRANDFATHER HAD DIED WHEN HE WAS YOUNG.
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  HE WAS ADOPTED BY HIS UNCLE.
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  HIS UNCLE WAS A VERY WEALTHY MERCHANT.
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  AND THE UNCLE REALLY ACCRUES THIS INCREDIBLE FORTUNE.
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  THE UNCLE DIES AND LEAVES IT TO 21, 22-YEAR-OLD
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  JOHN HANCOCK.
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  SO HE BECOMES THE WEALTHIEST MAN IN AMERICA,
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  YOUNG MAN ESPECIALLY.
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  AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S WORTH NOTING IS HE
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  INHERITED, HIS UNCLE HAD SLAVES,
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  HE INHERITED SLAVES.
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  AND THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE WOULD GO, WELL, SEE,
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  JOHN HANCOCK HAD SLAVES.
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  AND I'M ALWAYS LIKE, PAUSE.
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  WHAT DID HE DO ONCE HE INHERITED THEM?
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  OH, HE FREED THEM.
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  AND THIS IS A BIG DEAL BECAUSE A LOT OF THE
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  NARRATIVE IS, WELL, THEY ALL HAD SLAVES.
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  NO, FIRST OF ALL, THEY DIDN'T ALL HAVE SLAVES
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  BECAUSE AGAIN, LIKE SAM ADAMS, HIS COUNTERPART,
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  JOHN HANCOCK, SAM ADAMS WERE BOTH IN BOSTON.
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  THESE WERE THE LEADERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION,
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  THE LEADERS OF THE SONS OF LIBERTY.
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  SAM ADAMS WAS ALSO A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN.
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  HE WAS THE GRANDSON OF A PURITAN FAMILY THAT HAD
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  COME TO AMERICA SEEKING RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
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  AND SO HE'S A PROUD, OUTSPOKEN CHRISTIAN,
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  SUPER PROUD OF HIS HERITAGE.
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  HE GROWS UP IN A CHRISTIAN HOME, ATTENDING CHURCH.
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  WHEN HE'S 14, HE GOES TO HARVARD,
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  WHICH AT THE TIME WAS A BIBLE COLLEGE.
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  SO THIS IS A 14-YEAR-OLD KID GOING TO A BIBLE COLLEGE.
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  WELL, YOU CAN TRACK HIS WHOLE LIFE STORY,
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  BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ABOUT THESE TWO GUYS
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  IS THEY SHOW A LOT OF THE HEART AND SENTIMENT OF THE
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  FOUNDING FATHERS, BUT ALSO THE WIDE ARRAY WHERE
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  PEOPLE KNOW SAM ADAMS.
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  THERE'S A BEER NAMED AFTER HIM.
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  REBECCA: YEAH.
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  TIM: BUT WHEN YOU LEARN MORE OF THE STORY, YOU REALIZE,
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  WAIT A SECOND.
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  HIS FATHER WAS THE MALT BREWER AND THE MALT
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  BREWERY THEY HAD IT HAD ENOUGH ALCOHOL IN IT TO
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  LIKE KILL THE BACTERIA AND THE LIQUID YOU WERE
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  DRINKING, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO GET DRUNK,
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  WHICH IS A DISAPPOINTMENT PROBABLY FOR A LOT OF
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  PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNOW AND LOVE SAM ADAMS.
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  BUT HIS FATHER DIED AND LEAVES A BUSINESS TO SAM
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  ADAMS IN THE 1760S.
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  BUT THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE THE STAMP ACT TAX HAPPENING.
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  THIS IS WHEN TENSIONS ARE RISING.
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  SO SAM ADAMS IS NOT INTERESTED IN RUNNING
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  THE FAMILY BUSINESS.
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  HE'S INTERESTED IN STOPPING THE TYRANNY
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  OF THE BRITISH.
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  SO HE NEGLECTS THE FAMILY BUSINESS SO MUCH
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  THAT IT GOES BANKRUPT.
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  IT ACTUALLY FAILS
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  UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP.
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  SAM ADAMS FAILED AT EVERY
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  BUSINESS HE EVER HAD, LARGELY BECAUSE HE WAS
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  MORE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING A PATRIOT.
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  BUT MY FAVORITE EXAMPLE OF HIM AS A FAILED
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  BUSINESSMAN, HE WAS HIRED BY THE TOWN OF BOSTON TO
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  BE THEIR TAX COLLECTOR, WHICH THERE'S LEVELS OF
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  IRONY THAT SAM ADAMS
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  IS COLLECTING TAXES WHEN ONE OF THEIR ARGUMENTS WAS
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  NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
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  BUT WHAT'S FUN ABOUT THIS,
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  HE GOT FIRED FROM THAT POSITION BECAUSE HE FAILED
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  TO COLLECT ENOUGH TAXES.
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  BECAUSE WHEN HE WOULD GO
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  DOOR TO DOOR, HE'S LIKE, HEY,
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  SO HOW MUCH DO YOU OWE?
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  THAT'S TOO MUCH.
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  GIVE ME LIKE HALF OF THAT.
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  SO HE, HE IS LOVED BY THE PEOPLE,
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  BUT THE CITY IS GOING INTO MAJOR DEBT BECAUSE THEY
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  DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
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  THE REASON I SAY ALL OF THIS,
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  WHEN SAM ADAMS WAS CHOSEN TO GO TO THE CONTINENTAL
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  CONGRESS, HE WAS SO POOR.
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  HE ONLY HAD ONE SUIT AND IT HAD HOLES IN IT.
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  HE HAD ONE PAIR OF STOCKINGS,
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  THEY HAD HOLES IN THEM.
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  AND SO THE TOWN TOOK UP A COLLECTION BECAUSE THEY
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  LOVED HIS LEADERSHIP.
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  THIS, THIS GUY'S BRAIN IS AMAZING.
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  HIS VOICE IS SO CLEAR.
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  BUT WE'D BE EMBARRASSED TO SEND HIM TO REPRESENT US.
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  SO THEY TOOK UP A COLLECTION.
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  ONE GUY HIRED A TAILOR TO COME MAKE HIM A NEW SUIT.
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  ONE GUY BOUGHT HIM SIX PAIRS OF NEW STOCKINGS.
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  ONE GUY BOUGHT HIM A WIG SO HE WOULD LOOK REALLY
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  FORMAL AND OFFICIAL.
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  ONE GUY SENT TO JOHN ADAMS, HIS COUSIN,
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  TO ASK JOHN IF JOHN WOULD LOAN HIM A HORSE SO HE
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  WOULDN'T HAVE TO WALK THE WHOLE WAY TO PHILADELPHIA.
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  THE REASON THIS MATTERS JOHN HANCOCK,
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  INCREDIBLY WEALTHY, SAM ADAMS, INCREDIBLY POOR,
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  BOTH OF THEM DEVOUT CHRISTIANS.
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  ONE OF THEM NEVER OWNED SLAVES,
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  ONE OF THEM OWNED SLAVES AND FREED THEM.
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  AND AGAIN, LIKE WHEN YOU LEARN THEIR STORY,
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  YOU REALIZE THESE WERE AMAZING PEOPLE.
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  WE KNOW THEIR NAMES AND DON'T KNOW THEIR STORIES.
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  AND AS YOU LEARN THEIR STORIES,
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  YOU REALIZE A LOT OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE KNEW ABOUT
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  THEM IS NOT CORRECT.
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  AND WHEN YOU LEARN THEIR STORIES, YOU GO,
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  THESE ARE WAY MORE IMPRESSIVE MEN THAN WE REALIZED.
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  AND THE FACT THAT THEY GAVE THEIR LIVES,
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  THEIR FORTUNES AND SACRED HONOR FOR US TO BE FREE IS
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  SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE APPRECIATED, REMEMBERED,
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  AND CELEBRATED TODAY.
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  CINDY: I KNOW THAT WE'RE CELEBRATING THIS YEAR 250 YEARS.
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  AND RICK, WHAT DOES 250 STAND FOR?
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  RICK: I THINK IT'S MORE THAN A BIRTHDAY.
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  I THINK IT'S A CROSSROADS FOR AMERICA BECAUSE IN
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  BIBLICAL NUMEROLOGY, 250 STANDS FOR THE REBELLION
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  AGAINST MOSES BY KORAH.
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  KORAH HAD 250.
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  HE WAS --
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  HE WAS A LEVITE.
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  AND HE WASN'T A PRIEST, BUT HE SERVED AND HE HAD 250,
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  IT SAYS MEN OF RENOWN.
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  THEY WERE INFLUENCERS.
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  THEY WERE RICH.
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  AND THEY CAME AGAINST MOSES,
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  AND THEY CAME AGAINST THE COVENANT THAT MOSES WAS
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  TRYING TO LAY DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE.
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  SO MOSES HAD A DILEMMA.
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  THE PEOPLE WERE EITHER GOING TO FOLLOW THE 250
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  OR FOLLOW HIM.
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  SO WHAT DID MOSES DO?
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  HE CALLED ON GOD.
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  TIM: YEAH.
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  RICK: HE CALLED ON GOD.
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  TIM: YEAH.
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  RICK: HE SAID, IF, IF I'M NOT SENT,
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  THEN YOU WILL DIE A NORMAL DEATH.
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  BUT IF I HAVE BEEN SENT TO LAY DOWN THIS COVENANT,
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  LET THE GROUND OPEN UP AND SWALLOW YOU.
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  AND THAT WAS THE FIRST CHURCH SPLIT IN BIBLICAL
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  HISTORY, BECAUSE THE GROUND OPENED UP AND
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  SWALLOWED KORAH AND 250 PEOPLE.
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  NOW, THE, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT IS THE
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  NEXT DAY YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT EVERYONE WOULD
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  HAVE SAID, WE WANT MOSES AS LEADER.
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  THEY HAD ANOTHER REBELLION.
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  THE NEXT DAY THEY SAID, HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO KORAH?
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  WELL, MOSES DIDN'T DO IT.
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  GOD DID IT.
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  CINDY: RIGHT.
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  RICK: GOD DID IT TO MOSES -- TO, TO KORAH.
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  AND SO A PLAGUE BROKE OUT AND 14,700 PEOPLE DIED.
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  AND AARON FASTED AND WEPT AND SAID, GOD,
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  PLEASE STOP THE PLAGUE.
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  AND HE STOPPED THE PLAGUE.
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  BUT THE 250 IN BIBLICAL NUMEROLOGY STANDS FOR
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  REBELLION AGAINST DIVINE AUTHORITY.
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  AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT MOSES, HE WAS A MURDERER.
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  CINDY: YEAH.
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  RICK: HE GOT THROWN OUT OF EGYPT.
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  HE WAS BANISHED.
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  HE WAS A SHEPHERD.
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  THE MOST DESPISED OCCUPATION THAT THE
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  EGYPTIANS COULD THINK OF.
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  THIS GUY COMES WITH A SHEPHERD'S STAFF AND SAYS,
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  LET MY PEOPLE GO.
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  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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  BUT LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN MOSES USED THAT ROD,
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  GOD'S HAND MOVED.
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  SO WHAT WE NEED TODAY IN AMERICA,
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  WE NEED GOD'S HAND TO MOVE.
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  BECAUSE THE WHEAT AND THE
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  CHAFF ARE SEPARATING, AND WE'RE AT A CROSSROADS.
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  WE'RE AT A CROSSROADS IN AMERICA.
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  AND AMERICA,
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  I'VE SAID THIS IN ONE OF MY BOOKS,
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  AMERICA IS NOT AN EXPERIMENT IN DEMOCRACY.
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  SHE IS A FULFILLMENT OF DIVINE PROCLAMATION.
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  NOW THESE MEN WERE MOVED BY DIVINE PROVIDENCE.
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  BUT WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH SCRIPTURE, I ALWAYS SAY,
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  SOMEBODY ASKED ME, WHO ARE THE PROPHETS THAT YOU
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  LISTEN TO TODAY?
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  AND I SAID, THERE ARE SIX MODERN PROPHETS THAT YOU
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  ABSOLUTELY MUST LISTEN TO, AND THEY EVEN HAVE BOOKS
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  TO READ.
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  MOSES, ISAIAH, JEREMIAH, EZEKIEL, DANIEL, AND JOHN.
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  AND IF YOU'RE NOT TRACKING WITH THOSE PROPHETS,
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  YOU'RE GETTING OFF.
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  BUT THOSE MEN ALL PROPHESIED A NATION THAT
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  WOULD RISE UP IN THE LAST DAYS,
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  THE SEVENTH OF EIGHT PROVIDENTIAL NATIONS.
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  AND SHE WOULD BE CALLED BABYLON THE GREAT.
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  SHE'D BE THE GREATEST, MOST POWERFUL NATION IN
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  THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD UNTIL THE ANTICHRIST BEAST
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  SYSTEM TAKES HER OUT AND THE WAR IS ON, WE WIN.
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  IT SAYS WITHIN BABYLON THAT THE BEAST AND THE TEN
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  HORNS WILL MAKE WAR WITH THE LAMB,
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  AND THE LAMB SHALL OVERCOME,
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  BECAUSE THEY ARE CALLED CHOSEN AND FAITHFUL.
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  REVELATION 17:10 LITERALLY PROPHESIED WHERE WE ARE
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  TODAY ON GOD'S PROPHETIC TIME CLOCK.
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  THIS BOOK IS DIVINELY INSPIRED.
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  THE MEN WHO WROTE IT WERE DIVINELY INSPIRED,
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  AND THE MEN WHO HELPED RAISE UP AMERICA HAD
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  SOMETHING WORKING THROUGH THEM.
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  TIM: YEAH.
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  RICK: GREATER IS HE.
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  CINDY: YES.
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  RICK: BECAUSE GOD WAS GOING TO FULFILL PROPHECY.
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  HE WAS GOING TO RAISE UP AMERICA TO GO OUT AND
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  PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE SEVEN NATIONS OF THE WORLD.
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  BUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
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  BABYLON HAS FALLEN AND BECOME THE HABITATION OF
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  EVERY FOUL AND UNCLEAN SPIRIT.
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  THIS IS THE WARFARE THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY.
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  AND IT'S A BATTLE FOR THE MIND.
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  THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THE 250 IS.
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  AND BY THE WAY, WE'RE GIVING THESE BOOKS AWAY ON
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  OUR WEBSITE FOR FREE.
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  IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, WE DOWNLOAD A BOOK FOR
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  FREE OR, OR IF YOU CALL, EMAIL KAREN AT PROPHECY USA,
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  WE'LL SEND YOU THIS BOOK FOR FREE.
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  COMPLIMENTS OF PROPHECY USA BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE
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  TO READ THIS.
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  REBECCA: YEAH.
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  ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
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  BEFORE WE STARTED RECORDING WAS ACTUALLY WE
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  WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR.
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  AND I WAS ASKING, YOU KNOW,
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  IF YOU THOUGHT THERE COULD BE ANOTHER CIVIL WAR IN
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  AMERICA, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BECOMING MORE
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  AND MORE DIVIDED.
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  BUT YOU HAVE MADE A CONNECTION THAT I'D NEVER HEARD BEFORE,
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  WHICH IS ABOUT THE FIRST AND SECOND GREAT AWAKENING.
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  CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT?
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  TIM: YEAH, I'D LOVE TO.
• 13:48
  SO HISTORICALLY, EVERY 20 OR 30 OR 40 YEARS,
• 13:51
  THERE'S A REVIVAL IN AMERICA WHERE GOD IN HIS
• 13:54
  FAITHFULNESS AND GRACE AND MERCY POURS OUT HIS SPIRIT
• 13:57
  AND SOMETHING SPECIAL HAPPENS.
• 13:59
  BUT HISTORICALLY, IN ALL THE REVIVALS YOU CAN TRACK,
• 14:02
  ONLY TWO WERE EVER CONSIDERED AWAKENINGS.
• 14:04
  AND THE AWAKENINGS,
• 14:05
  WHAT A LOT OF THINGS THAT DIFFERENTIATED THEM.
• 14:07
  BUT LIKE KIND OF THE BIG PICTURE IS REVIVALS IN
• 14:10
  MORE OF THE MODERN AND MORE RECENT,
• 14:12
  IT'S BEEN INTERNALIZED AND IT'S ABOUT YOU AND JESUS.
• 14:15
  THE AWAKENINGS WERE ABOUT TAKING GOD OUT
• 14:19
  INTO THE ARENAS.
• 14:21
  THE REASON THAT MATTERED IS BECAUSE IN THE FIRST
• 14:24
  AND SECOND GREAT AWAKENING,
• 14:25
  IF YOU TRACK THEM, THEY WERE NOT TIMES OF UNITY
• 14:28
  LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD THINK LIKE, GOD,
• 14:30
  JUST SEND YOUR SPIRIT.
• 14:31
  LET'S ALL BE UNITED.
• 14:32
  THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN GOD HAS A REVIVAL.
• 14:35
  IF YOU LOOK AT THE AWAKENINGS,
• 14:36
  IT WAS THE MOST DIVIDED TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
• 14:39
  THE FIRST GREAT AWAKENING,
• 14:40
  EASY EXAMPLE,
• 14:41
  GEORGE WHITEFIELD IS IN AMERICA FOR 30-PLUS YEARS.
• 14:43
  HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH IN CHURCHES FOR THE FIRST
• 14:46
  20-PLUS YEARS BECAUSE NO PASTOR WILL ALLOW HIM IN.
• 14:49
  WHY?
• 14:50
  BECAUSE HE'S PREACHING SOMETHING WE DON'T AGREE WITH.
• 14:52
  WELL, HE'S CHALLENGING THE STATUS QUO OF WHAT THEY'RE
• 14:55
  DOING AND THEY'RE NOT DOING.
• 14:57
  WE COULD GO FORWARD TO THE SECOND GREAT AWAKENING.
• 14:58
  THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EASIER EXAMPLE.
• 15:00
  THE SECOND GREAT AWAKENING,
• 15:02
  CHARLES FINNEY IS ONE OF THE MOST NOTED LEADERS OF
• 15:05
  THE SECOND GREAT AWAKENING.
• 15:06
  IT'S ESTIMATED THAT IN ONE YEAR OF HIS MINISTRY
• 15:08
  ALONE, MORE THAN 100,000 PEOPLE CONVERTED
• 15:10
  TO CHRISTIANITY.
• 15:11
  CINDY: WOW.
• 15:13
  TIM: SO WHAT'S CLEAR IS GOD IS MOVING IN AMAZING WAYS.
• 15:15
  SECOND GREAT AWAKENING, WELL,
• 15:17
  IN THE HEIGHT OF HIS MINISTRY,
• 15:18
  WHICH WAS THE 1820S AND 1830S.
• 15:19
  IN THE 1830S,
• 15:21
  EVERY MAJOR DENOMINATION IN AMERICA BEGAN SPLITTING
• 15:25
  OVER THE ISSUE OF SLAVERY.
• 15:28
  NOW, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE
• 15:30
  GREATEST REVIVALS IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
• 15:32
  AND EVEN INSIDE THE CHURCH,
• 15:34
  THE CHURCH IS BEING SPLIT.
• 15:35
  WHY?
• 15:36
  BECAUSE THE GREAT AWAKENINGS WERE NOT
• 15:38
  DEFINED BY UNITY.
• 15:40
  THEY WERE DEFINED BY MORAL CLARITY.
• 15:42
  TRUTH AND MORALITY WAS DEBATED.
• 15:44
  IN THE END, TRUTH AND MORALITY WON.
• 15:46
  CINDY: RIGHT.
• 15:47
  TIM: BUT THE FIRST GREAT AWAKENING ENDS ARGUABLY
• 15:50
  AROUND 1770, THE SAME YEAR YOU HAVE THE BOSTON
• 15:52
  MASSACRE, WHICH LEADS TO THE BOSTON TEA PARTY.
• 15:54
  AND ULTIMATELY, YOU GET THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
• 15:56
  THE SECOND GREAT AWAKENING ENDS DEPENDING ON HOW,
• 16:01
  WHICH PASTOR YOU THINK WAS THE END OF IT.
• 16:03
  IT ENDS IN THE 1850S OR MAYBE UP TO 1860,
• 16:08
  WHICH IS LITERALLY WHEN THE CIVIL WAR BEGINS.
• 16:11
  WHAT, WHAT WE OFTEN THINK IS THAT WHEN THERE'S
• 16:14
  DIVISION, IT'S BECAUSE GOD'S NOT A PART.
• 16:17
  BUT MANY TIMES IT'S BECAUSE GOD IS ON THE MOVE,
• 16:21
  IT IS BRINGING DIVISION WHERE YOU GET TO CHOOSE
• 16:25
  THIS DAY WHOM YOU'RE GOING TO SERVE.
• 16:26
  CINDY: AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?
• 16:28
  WHY DOES IT CAUSE DIVISION?
• 16:29
  TIM: WELL, I THINK, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING,
• 16:31
  ANYTIME THAT GOD IS ON THE MOVE,
• 16:33
  THERE'S A COUNTERPART WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SUPPORT
• 16:35
  ANYTHING GOD DOES.
• 16:36
  RICK: KORAH.
• 16:37
  TIM: AND I THINK, RIGHT, AND THOSE SPIRITS,
• 16:39
  THOSE SAME DEMONS ARE AROUND TODAY.
• 16:41
  AND NOT TO CALL OUT NAMES, BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY COULD.
• 16:44
  WE CAN SEE PEOPLE WHERE A LOT OF TIMES LIKE GEORGE
• 16:47
  WHITEFIELD, LET ME GO BACK TO HIM, FOR EXAMPLE.
• 16:49
  THE FACT THAT GEORGE WHITEFIELD IS THIS
• 16:52
  INCREDIBLE EVANGELIST AND HE'S, HE'S TRYING TO TELL
• 16:55
  PEOPLE ABOUT THE SECOND BIRTH.
• 16:58
  YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN.
• 16:59
  AND HE'S TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE DISCOVER GOD
• 17:01
  AND PASTORS ARE OPPOSING HIM.
• 17:04
  THE PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE THE MOST SUPPORTIVE.
• 17:06
  NOW, THERE'S LOTS OF REASONS I COULD FIND,
• 17:08
  BUT THE REASON I SAY IS WE COULD LOOK TODAY AND GO,
• 17:11
  THERE'S SOME VOICES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE SAYING
• 17:13
  THINGS, AND I'M LIKE, YOU SHOULD BE ON OUR SIDE.
• 17:17
  AND YOU'RE SAYING CRAZY TALK RIGHT NOW, RIGHT?
• 17:20
  ONE OF THE THINGS AND I HAVE A PASTOR FRIEND THAT SAYS
• 17:22
  IT, WHEN YOU SEE THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE,
• 17:24
  IT'S USUALLY BECAUSE IT'S SPIRITUAL.
• 17:26
  AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
• 17:28
  WE ARE LIVING IN A TIME THAT, FIRST OF ALL,
• 17:31
  I THINK WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT
• 17:33
  THAT WE ARE IN ANOTHER REVIVAL SEASON.
• 17:35
  REBECCA: YEAH.
• 17:36
  TIM: AND WE CAN TRACK THIS FOR LOTS OF REASONS.
• 17:38
  THE BIBLE SALES SINCE 2019 ARE PEAKING LIKE
• 17:41
  INCREDIBLE BIBLE SALES RIGHT NOW.
• 17:44
  YOU HAVE AMAZING REVIVALS HAPPENING ON COLLEGE
• 17:46
  CAMPUSES WHEN LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF KIDS ARE
• 17:49
  BEING SAVED IN THESE CAMPUS EVENTS,
• 17:51
  THOUSANDS ARE BEING BAPTIZED.
• 17:53
  YOU CAN LOOK AT THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW,
• 17:54
  THE GEN Z MALES ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE UP THE
• 17:57
  HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF CHURCH ATTENDANCE OF ANY GENERATION.
• 18:00
  THE RISING GENERATION,
• 18:01
  RISING YOUNG MEN THAT WE'VE BEEN PRAYING RIGHT
• 18:04
  FOR, FOR DECADES THAT GOD WOULD REACH YOUNG MEN
• 18:07
  AND BRING THEM,
• 18:08
  IT'S HAPPENING.
• 18:09
  GOD IS DOING SOMETHING.
• 18:10
  WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A REVIVAL.
• 18:12
  BUT I ALSO THINK IT COULD BE ANOTHER AWAKENING
• 18:14
  BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING CHURCHES AND PASTORS
• 18:16
  ACTIVATED WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY SPEAKING TRUTH
• 18:20
  ABOUT CULTURE AND WHAT WE SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T DO
• 18:22
  AND, AND THINGS THAT ARE IMPACTING POLICY,
• 18:24
  REMOVING BAD STUFF FROM SCHOOL LIBRARIES AND
• 18:26
  CLARIFYING WHO SHOULD PLAY ON WHAT SPORTS TEAM.
• 18:29
  PASTORS ARE ACTUALLY GETTING INVOLVED IN CULTURE.
• 18:31
  THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED
• 18:32
  IN THE AWAKENINGS.
• 18:33
  IT WASN'T JUST PEOPLE DISCOVERING JESUS
• 18:35
  AND INTERNALIZING IT.
• 18:36
  IT WAS PEOPLE ACTIVATING AND LIVING THEIR FAITH OUT
• 18:39
  IN CULTURE.
• 18:40
  SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED THAT WE ARE NOT
• 18:43
  ONLY IN A REVIVAL, WE VERY WELL COULD BE
• 18:44
  IN ANOTHER GREAT AWAKENING.
• 18:46
  I THINK WE ARE.
• 18:47
  REBECCA: YEAH.
• 18:48
  TIM: BUT HISTORICALLY, THE ONLY OTHER TWO GREAT
• 18:51
  AWAKENINGS, WE HAD IT, IT, IT STIRRED THE COURAGE AND
• 18:56
  CONSCIENCE OF CHRISTIANS TO STAND FOR TRUTH.
• 18:58
  CINDY: YES.
• 19:00
  TIM: BUT WHEN THEY DID, THERE WAS AN OPPOSING SIDE.
• 19:02
  NOW AGAIN, WE KNOW GOD WINS IN THE END.
• 19:04
  SO WE SHOULD HAVE THE COURAGE AND CONFIDENCE TO
• 19:06
  STAND FOR WHAT'S TRUE AND RIGHT,
• 19:08
  REGARDLESS OF THE PERSECUTION WE'VE BEEN
• 19:10
  TOLD AS CHRISTIANS.
• 19:11
  LIKE JESUS SAID, LOOK, A SERVANT IS NOT GREATER
• 19:13
  THAN HIS MASTER.
• 19:14
  THEY OPPOSE ME,
• 19:15
  THEY ARE GOING TO BE OPPOSING YOU.
• 19:16
  WELL, IN AMERICA, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY COMFORTABLE
• 19:19
  THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF OPPOSITION FOR STANDING
• 19:21
  FOR BIBLICAL TRUTH.
• 19:22
  BUT AS OUR CULTURE HAS BECOME MORE SECULAR NOW,
• 19:25
  WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ABLE TO
• 19:27
  BE MORE LIKE JESUS, OF HAVING TO MAYBE ENDURE
• 19:31
  SOME THINGS FOR OUR FAITH.
• 19:32
  BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THIS, I THINK IS
• 19:34
  A GREAT AWAKENING MOMENT.
• 19:37
  AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT HAS TO END IN A CONFLICT.
• 19:41
  BUT HISTORICALLY, THE ONLY TWO OTHER EXAMPLES WE HAVE
• 19:44
  IN AMERICA, THEY ENDED IN CONFLICT.
• 19:47
  NOW, AT THE END OF THE CONFLICT, THE FIRST ONE,
• 19:48
  AMERICA BECAME A NATION, THE MOST FREE, STABLE,
• 19:50
  PROSPEROUS, BENEVOLENT NATION IN THE HISTORY
• 19:52
  OF THE WORLD.
• 19:53
  THE SECOND ONE WE ENDED, SLAVERY,
• 19:55
  HELPED BRING CIVIL RIGHTS IN.
• 19:56
  SO IT ACTUALLY TOOK SERIOUS CONFLICT FOR
• 19:59
  THINGS TO HAPPEN.
• 20:00
  AND YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY ON THIS ONE.
• 20:02
  ABRAHAM LINCOLN IN HIS SECOND INAUGURAL ADDRESS,
• 20:05
  HE POSES A QUESTION.
• 20:07
  HE SAYS, I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS WAR WILL END UNTIL
• 20:11
  ENOUGH BLOOD HAS BEEN SPILLED TO MATCH THE BLOOD
• 20:15
  FROM THE BACK OF EVERY SLAVE THAT WAS DRAWN.
• 20:18
  HE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS GOD'S JUDGMENT,
• 20:21
  MAYBE FOR SLAVERY.
• 20:22
  NOW, I SAY THIS BECAUSE YOU AND I HAVE TALKED
• 20:24
  ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, MAYBE EVEN ABOUT LIKE
• 20:27
  THE ABORTION ISSUE.
• 20:29
  RICK: THE BIBLE SAYS THAT HE WHO SHEDS THE INNOCENT
• 20:33
  BLOOD OF MAN BY MAN SHALL HIS BLOOD BE SHED.
• 20:37
  WHEN YOU SHED THE BLOOD OF 6500 OR 65 MILLION
• 20:40
  CHILDREN IN A COVENANT NATION,
• 20:45
  GOD WILL JUDGE THEM.
• 20:46
  TIM: YEAH.
• 20:47
  RICK: HE HAS TO JUDGE IT.
• 20:48
  CINDY: YES.
• 20:49
  RICK: SO WE'RE IN A NATION NOW WHERE WE SEE IN
• 20:52
  BABYLON IT SAYS THAT BABYLON HAS FALLEN,
• 20:54
  FALLEN, BECOME THE HABITATION OF EVERY FOUL
• 20:57
  AND UNCLEAN SPIRIT.
• 20:59
  THOSE SPIRITS ARE LIKE KORAH.
• 21:01
  THEY'RE FIGHTING AGAINST THE COVENANT.
• 21:03
  THEY'RE FIGHTING AGAINST BIBLICAL MARRIAGE.
• 21:07
  THEY'RE FIGHTING AGAINST WHAT GENDER ARE YOU?
• 21:10
  THEY'RE FIGHTING AGAINST THE POLITICAL CAPITALISM,
• 21:13
  WHICH IS BASED ON BIBLICAL GIVING,
• 21:15
  YOU SHALL RECEIVE.
• 21:16
  AND THEY'RE FIGHTING THAT RIGHT NOW.
• 21:18
  BUT THE PIVOTAL THING THAT REALLY YOU CAN INVOKE
• 21:23
  BLESSINGS OR YOU CAN PROVOKE JUDGMENT.
• 21:27
  AND THE SHEDDING OF INNOCENT BLOOD IS THE
• 21:29
  NUMBER ONE THING.
• 21:30
  THAT'S WHY ISRAEL FELL TO BABYLON.
• 21:33
  IT SAID KING MANASSEH SHED INNOCENT BLOOD,
• 21:36
  WHICH THE LORD WOULD NOT PARDON.
• 21:39
  TIM: YEAH.
• 21:39
  RICK: NOW THE GOOD NEWS,
• 21:42
  YOU CANNOT CONTROL THE NATION.
• 21:44
  YOU CANNOT CONTROL A NATION'S COVENANT,
• 21:47
  BUT YOU CAN CONTROL YOUR OWN COVENANT.
• 21:50
  AND 2000 YEARS AGO, INNOCENT BLOOD WAS SHED
• 21:54
  FOR ALL OF US.
• 21:55
  TIM: THAT'S RIGHT.
• 21:56
  RICK: SO IF YOU'VE BEEN PARTAKING IN THAT,
• 21:58
  NOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, FOR EVERY WOMAN THAT SHED
• 22:04
  INNOCENT BLOOD IS AN ABSENT FATHER,
• 22:08
  A DELINQUENT DOCTOR, A NURSE WHO HELPED WITH THE ABORTION.
• 22:13
  SO FOR EVERY ABORTION, THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE,
• 22:16
  65 MILLION ABORTIONS.
• 22:18
  CINDY: WOW.
• 22:19
  RICK: THAT'S 240 MILLION PEOPLE TOOK PART.
• 22:21
  NOT, NOT TO MENTION THE PEOPLE THAT SOLD THE BLOOD
• 22:24
  OR SOLD, YOU KNOW, THE -- WHAT THEY GET FROM THE FETUS.
• 22:30
  SO WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT NOW AT A CROSSROADS IN AMERICA.
• 22:34
  AND I'M PRAYING THAT GOD WILL STAVE OFF.
• 22:36
  WHEN, WHEN DONALD TRUMP DODGED A BULLET,
• 22:39
  AMERICA DODGED A BULLET.
• 22:41
  TIM: CORRECT.
• 22:42
  RICK: WE WERE GIVEN A JOSIAH MOMENT, A REPRIEVE.
• 22:45
  BUT SOONER OR LATER, GOD RAISES UP KINGDOMS.
• 22:50
  AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE PROVEN IT OVER AND OVER
• 22:53
  AND OVER AGAIN,
• 22:54
  AMERICA WAS RAISED UP BY THE HAND OF GOD.
• 22:57
  CINDY: AMEN.
• 22:59
  RICK: BUT HE RAISES UP KINGDOMS AND HE DEPOSES KINGDOMS.
• 23:03
  THE EIGHT PROVIDENTIAL NATIONS
• 23:04
  IN SCRIPTURE IT SAYS THAT THE EIGHTH KINGDOM,
• 23:09
  IT SAYS THEY WILL HATE THE WOMAN AND THEY WILL BURN
• 23:13
  HER WITH FIRE.
• 23:14
  FOR GOD HAS PUT IN THEIR HEART TO FULFILL HIS PURPOSE.
• 23:18
  BUT WHEN THE JUDGMENT COMES DOWN,
• 23:20
  HE HAS AN ESCAPE PLAN.
• 23:23
  TIM: YEAH.
• 23:24
  RICK: JUST LIKE SHADRACH, MESHACH, AND ABEDNEGO,
• 23:26
  THE FLAMES WILL HAVE NO POWER.
• 23:28
  INSTANTANEOUSLY,
• 23:30
  EVERY MOLECULE IN OUR BODY WILL BE ACCELERATED AT THE
• 23:32
  SPEED OF LIGHT, AND WE'LL BE TAKEN OUT.
• 23:36
  AMERICA WILL BE GONE.
• 23:38
  THE TRIBULATION WILL BEGIN.
• 23:41
  THE MONEY SYSTEM WILL CHANGE OVERNIGHT.
• 23:44
  THE DIGITAL CURRENCY, THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
• 23:47
  IT ALL LINES UP WITH THE TIME CODES IN THIS BOOK.
• 23:52
  AND OF COURSE, I'VE BEEN CALLED TO COME TO AMERICA
• 23:55
  AND, AND SHARE WHAT THE LORD SHOWED ME 39 YEARS AGO.
• 24:00
  IT WILL BE 40 YEARS IN DECEMBER.
• 24:02
  REBECCA: WOW.
• 24:03
  RICK: THAT I RECEIVED THIS.
• 24:04
  REBECCA: THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER TOO.
• 24:06
  RICK: THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.
• 24:08
  IT'S A HUGE NUMBER BECAUSE IT RAINED 40 DAYS
• 24:12
  AND 40 NIGHTS,
• 24:13
  THE RAIN STOPPED.
• 24:14
  CINDY: RIGHT.
• 24:15
  RICK: GOLIATH --
• 24:16
  REBECCA: IT'S TESTING, RIGHT?
• 24:17
  RICK: IT'S TESTING.
• 24:18
  AND THEN GOLIATH WAS HE, HE MOCKED ISRAEL FOR 40 DAYS
• 24:22
  AND 40 NIGHTS.
• 24:23
  AND THEN GOLIATH CAME AND JESUS WAS 40 NIGHTS AND 40
• 24:26
  DAYS IN THE DESERT.
• 24:28
  SO IF WE --
• 24:29
  REBECCA: 40 DAYS IN THE WILDERNESS,
• 24:30
  WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT
• 24:31
  THE WILDERNESS.
• 24:32
  RICK: SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE BEING TESTED.
• 24:34
  BUT THE RAIN WILL STOP.
• 24:35
  THE GIANTS WILL FALL.
• 24:37
  REBECCA: YEAH.
• 24:37
  RICK: AND THE DEVIL WILL FLEE.
• 24:39
  TIM: WELL, AND CAN I ADD A THOUGHT TO THAT TOO?
• 24:40
  REBECCA: YEAH.
• 24:41
  TIM: BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO.
• 24:43
  ONE THING I WOULD ENCOURAGE IN THE MIDST OF
• 24:45
  THIS, BECAUSE I THINK IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL,
• 24:48
  PEOPLE MIGHT HEAR THAT AND BE LIKE, OH, WELL,
• 24:50
  THEN LET'S JUST WAIT FOR JESUS,
• 24:52
  WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU SAID AT ALL.
• 24:54
  AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO CLARIFY.
• 24:55
  REBECCA: YEAH, THAT'S
• 24:56
  WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK,
• 24:57
  WHAT DO WE DO NOW?
• 24:58
  BECAUSE YOU CAN GET A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION.
• 25:00
  I THINK PEOPLE CAN GET OVERWHELMED AND FEEL
• 25:01
  HELPLESS, BUT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO BE PROACTIVE.
• 25:04
  TIM: YES.
• 25:05
  RICK: IT SAYS THIS IS, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE
• 25:08
  FOR A TIME SEQUENCE.
• 25:09
  IT SAYS IN REVELATION 19:1 THROUGH 7 THAT GOD
• 25:13
  JUDGED THE WOMAN, AND THERE'S PEOPLE UP
• 25:17
  IN HEAVEN REJOICING.
• 25:18
  AND IT SAYS, THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB HAS COME,
• 25:21
  AND THE BRIDE HAS MADE HERSELF READY.
• 25:26
  HOW DO YOU GET READY FOR THE RAPTURE?
• 25:28
  HOW DO YOU GET READY?
• 25:29
  JESUS SAID, PRAY THAT YOU MIGHT BE FOUNDED
• 25:31
  WORTHY TO ESCAPE.
• 25:34
  HE DIDN'T SAY, I GOT YOU COVERED.
• 25:36
  SALVATION IS A GIFT.
• 25:38
  THE RAPTURE IS A REWARD.
• 25:40
  HE'S GOING TO FIND US WORKING.
• 25:42
  WHATEVER GOD HAS CALLED YOU TO DO,
• 25:44
  WHETHER IT'S BE THE BEST MOTHER, THE BEST FATHER,
• 25:47
  THE BEST SCHOOL TEACHER, THE BEST TV HOST,
• 25:51
  WHATEVER GOD'S CALLED YOU TO DO,
• 25:53
  GIVE IT TO HIM AND LET HIM WORK THROUGH YOU.
• 25:58
  BE THE KINDEST, MOST CONSIDERATE PERSON THAT
• 26:01
  EVERYBODY KNOWS AROUND YOU AND LET THE LIFE
• 26:03
  OF CHRIST BE MANIFEST.
• 26:05
  THAT'S HOW YOU GET READY.
• 26:06
  THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR 40 YEARS.
• 26:09
  REBECCA: JUST BE OBEDIENT.
• 26:10
  RICK: AND IT'S AMAZING THAT I'M SITTING HERE
• 26:11
  ON NATIONAL TELEVISION WITH YOU GUYS.
• 26:13
  REBECCA: AND BE BOLD, JUST LIKE WE CAN LEARN FROM
• 26:14
  THOSE MEN, ORDINARY MEN WHO, WHO I THINK ONE OF THE
• 26:18
  THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, AND YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS,
• 26:20
  TIM, IS THAT WHEN I LOOK AT LIKE I WAS TELLING TIM
• 26:22
  OFF CAMERA, I'M WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY
• 26:23
  ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR.
• 26:25
  WHEN YOU STUDY THESE MEN AND THESE WOMEN,
• 26:28
  IS THAT IN HARD TIMES, IT REALLY CAN MAKE A PERSON
• 26:30
  WHERE IT'S A CHANCE FOR THEM TO RISE UP
• 26:32
  AND REALLY FULFILL,
• 26:34
  YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW UNTIL YOU GET TESTED.
• 26:36
  WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT?
• 26:37
  TIM: YEAH, I COMPLETELY AGREE.
• 26:38
  I THINK AS WE LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE NOW,
• 26:40
  I THINK IT'S VERY FAIR TO SAY, MAN,
• 26:42
  WE'RE IN A TIME OF TESTING.
• 26:43
  RICK: YES.
• 26:44
  TIM: BUT I THINK ALSO THAT COULD ALSO BE ANOTHER
• 26:46
  GREAT AWAKENING MOMENT BECAUSE IT WASN'T UNIFYING TIMES.
• 26:50
  GOD WAS ON THE MOVE.
• 26:52
  AND THEN WE GET TO CHOOSE WHOSE SIDE ARE WE GOING TO BE ON?
• 26:55
  AND TO YOUR POINT, THAT WHAT THE BIBLE INDICATES
• 26:58
  OVER AND OVER IS THAT WE BE FOUND FAITHFUL
• 27:00
  WHEN HE RETURNED.
• 27:00
  WELL DONE, GOOD AND FAITHFUL.
• 27:02
  AND WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THE FOUNDING FATHERS,
• 27:03
  AND REALLY FOR ALL OF US, IS I WANT TO WORK AS HARD
• 27:08
  AS I POSSIBLY CAN, NOT FOR EARNING GRACE OR SALVATION,
• 27:10
  NO, NO, NO.
• 27:12
  I WANT TO WORK AS HARD AS I POSSIBLY CAN FOR
• 27:14
  THE PRESERVATION OF FREEDOM IN THIS SOCIETY.
• 27:18
  BECAUSE IF JESUS DOESN'T RETURN IN MY LIFETIME,
• 27:22
  THEN I WANT MY KIDS TO HAVE FREEDOM.
• 27:24
  RICK: EXACTLY.
• 27:25
  TIM: AND SO I AM GOING TO, WHENEVER HE RETURNS,
• 27:28
  I'M GOING TO BE FAITHFUL BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I'M
• 27:29
  GOING TO BE DOING, BUT I'M GOING TO WORK LIKE CRAZY.
• 27:32
  NOT FOR EARNING ANYTHING FROM GOD,
• 27:34
  BUT TO BE THE GOOD STEWARD OF WHAT WE HAVE.
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  AND I THINK A LOT OF THE REASON WE'RE HAVING AS
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  MUCH TROUBLE AS WE HAVE IS BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY,
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  THERE WERE GENERATIONS WHO DIDN'T STEWARD IT AS WELL.
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  REBECCA: I THINK THEY WERE COMFORTABLE, APATHETIC.
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  TIM: VERY, VERY COMMON, RIGHT?
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  THE KIND OF THE ADAGE, THE CIRCLE THAT GOOD TIMES
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  MAKE SOFT MEN, SOFT MEN AND BAD TIMES,
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  BAD TIMES WITH HARD, HARD MEN MAKE GOOD TIMES.
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  YEAH, THERE'S THAT CYCLE THAT GOES AROUND.
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  I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY CORRECT.
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  BUT THE REALITY IS WE ARE NOW IN HARD TIMES.
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  BUT THIS IS WHEN WE GET TO SHOW THE CHARACTER, RIGHT?
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  ACTUALLY, WHO IS IN US, GREATER IS HE THAT'S IN US
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  THAN HE WHO'S IN THE WORLD.
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  WE CAN ACTUALLY SHOW GOD SO MUCH IN WHAT WE DO,
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  BUT WE NEED TO BE VERY ACTIVE AND ENGAGED IN
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  PRESERVATION OF FREEDOM IN THIS NATION,
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  BECAUSE AMERICA IS NOT PROMISED A FUTURE.
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  BUT WHEN AND IF THIS NATION FALLS,
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  WHERE ARE OUR KIDS GOING TO GO?
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  WHERE ARE OUR GRANDKIDS GOING TO GO?
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  WHAT'S THEIR FUTURE GOING TO BE LIKE?
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  AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IN FEAR.
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  I'M SAYING THIS IN A STEWARDSHIP RESPONSIBILITY.
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  THIS IS WHY I WORK HARD.
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  THIS IS WHY OUR NAME WALLBUILDERS,
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  THE BIBLE STORY OF NEHEMIAH,
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  WE WANT TO REBUILD THE WALLS,
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  REBUILD THE FOUNDATION.
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  BECAUSE I FULLY BELIEVE IN THE END TIMES AND THAT
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  JESUS WILL RETURN.
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  AND ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE ON THE WINNING SIDE.
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  BUT BECAUSE NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR,
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  ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S REALLY CLOSE.
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  REBECCA: YEAH.
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  TIM: NONE OF US KNOW.
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  CINDY: RIGHT.
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  TIM: SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK REALLY HARD TO BE GOOD
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  STEWARDS OF WHAT GOD'S GIVEN US AND LEAVE
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  SOMETHING FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS,
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  JUST LIKE THE FOUNDING FATHERS DID.
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  THEY COMMITTED TO SOMETHING.
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  THERE WAS NO GUARANTEE OF SUCCESS.
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  WHERE WE ARE, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF SUCCESS.
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  BUT WITH GOD'S HELP, OUR TITLE,
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  LIVES, FORTUNES AND SACRED HONORS,
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  AGAIN COMES FROM THAT LAST LINE WITH A FIRM RELIANCE
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  ON DIVINE PROVIDENCE.
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  CINDY: AMEN.
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  TIM: WE PLEDGE TO EACH OTHER OUR LIVES, OUR FORTUNES,
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  AND OUR SACRED HONOR.
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  WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING FOR THE CAUSE
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  OF FREEDOM AND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
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  AND I THINK AS CHRISTIANS, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE
• 29:27
  SHOULD BE DOING ANYWAY.
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  AND BY THE WAY, THAT ALSO MEANS SHARING THE GOSPEL
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  AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE WHAT PRESERVES
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  A SOCIETY IS CHRISTIANITY.
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  IT IS GOD IN THE HEARTS OF PEOPLE,
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  THAT REGENERATED HEART.
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  THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE.
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  AS WE WANT TO SAVE SOCIETY,
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  WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO KNOW AND FOLLOW JESUS,
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  TO BE DISCIPLES OF JESUS.
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  BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CHANGES CULTURES AND CIVILIZATIONS.
• 29:48
  THE REASON WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS NOW IS WE'VE
• 29:49
  NEVER BEEN MORE SECULAR.
• 29:51
  WELL, THAT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS AS A CHURCH THEN,
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  BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE HARVEST IS PLENTIFUL IN
• 29:55
  FRONT OF US.
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  LET'S GET AFTER IT.
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  LET'S GET TO WORK.
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  REBECCA: YEAH.
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  AND I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID,
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  IT'S LIKE WE NEED TO STEWARD.
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  IF WE UNDERSTAND OUR HISTORY AND WHAT GOD HAS
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  DONE IN THIS NATION, WE CAN CONTINUE TO STEWARD
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  WHAT HE'S CALLED THIS NATION TO DO.
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  AND SO NOW IS THE TIME TO RISE UP.
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  WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
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  AS WE CLOSE, REMEMBER THAT FREEDOM ALWAYS COMES AT A COST.
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  FOR AMERICA,
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  MANY OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS RISKED THEIR
• 30:18
  HOMES, THEIR LIVELIHOODS, AND EVEN THEIR LIVES FOR
• 30:20
  THE CAUSE OF LIBERTY.
• 30:22
  AND FOR EACH OF US, THE ULTIMATE PRICE FOR FREEDOM
• 30:24
  WAS PAID BY JESUS ON THE CROSS.
• 30:27
  THE BIBLE SAYS IT IS FOR FREEDOM THAT CHRIST HAS
• 30:29
  SET US FREE.
• 30:30
  SO TODAY, ASK YOURSELF, ARE YOU TRULY WALKING IN
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  THE FREEDOM HE GAVE HIS LIFE FOR YOU TO HAVE?
• 30:35
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• 30:37
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• 30:40
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• 30:44
  I WANT TO THANK TIM AND RICK FOR JOINING US TODAY.
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  BE SURE TO PICK UP TIM'S BOOK, LIVES, FORTUNES
• 30:49
  AND SACRED HONOR, THE SIGNERS OF THE DECLARATION.
• 30:52
  AND RICK'S BOOK,
• 30:53
  AMERICA'S 250TH CELEBRATION FROM A BIBLICAL LENS.
• 30:57
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• 30:59
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  UNTIL NEXT TIME,
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  BYE-BYE FOR TODAY.
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  ♪♪
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  ANNOUNCER: THIS EPISODE HONORS THE LEGACY OF OUR LATE
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  PRESIDENT, JONI LAMB.
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  UNTIL NEXT TIME,
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  BYE-BYE FOR TODAY.
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  ♪♪