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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yesterday, it was an anonymous letter. A dozen House members,
- 0:04Speaker 1: mostly from Florida, North Carolina, and South Carolina. Nobody's name
- 0:09Speaker 1: necessarily attached to any specific task, but today it is
- 0:13Speaker 1: four real signatures. Names, letterhead, and it was sent straight
- 0:18Speaker 1: to the Speaker of the House. The presidents of Florida State, Clemson,
- 0:22Speaker 1: North Carolina, and Miami just put their own names on
- 0:25Speaker 1: a request letter. to rewrite the most contentious part of
- 0:29Speaker 1: the Protect College Sports Act. This is TJ Pittenger, and
- 0:33Speaker 1: this is College Football Addiction, presented by PrizePix. We hope
- 0:37Speaker 1: that you are subscribed and locked in. Typically, I don't
- 0:40Speaker 1: do a lot of realignment videos during the season, but
- 0:42Speaker 1: it is heating up, and we'll continue to talk about
- 0:44Speaker 1: this and all the other biggest stories in college football.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Once you see what these four programs are actually asking for,
- 0:52Speaker 1: I think the people calling this an attack on the ACC... Mayo,
- 0:57Speaker 1: those four schools, an apology. Let's jump into things. A
- 1:00Speaker 1: quick reminder of where we left off because this does
- 1:03Speaker 1: move pretty quickly. I will link yesterday's video at the
- 1:05Speaker 1: end of this. If you missed that, go back and
- 1:07Speaker 1: watch it, but I don't want to recap the whole thing.
- 1:09Speaker 1: The Senate passed the PCSA 77 to 22 in Section 205.
- 1:15Speaker 1: The expansion provision exists. It caps power conference membership at
- 1:19Speaker 1: 20 schools. It makes any school switching conferences sit out
- 1:22Speaker 1: for three years as an independent first. Now that we're
- 1:25Speaker 1: caught up, Yesterday, we got comments from a gentleman named
- 1:29Speaker 1: Randy Levine. He's the guy that Trump put in charge
- 1:32Speaker 1: of pushing this bill. He stood up and basically called
- 1:36Speaker 1: Florida State and Miami, the two schools that are trying
- 1:39Speaker 1: to blow up the Atlantic Coast Conference over that provision.
- 1:43Speaker 2: He said it by name to a reporter. He's still continue.
- 1:47Speaker 1: To go on other shows and do other interviews, continuing
- 1:51Speaker 1: to parrot that narrative.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Now we've got new reporting.
- 1:55Speaker 1: John Lowe said, Tomahawk Nation obtained an actual letter addressed
- 2:00Speaker 1: to Speaker Mike Johnson, Majority Leader Steve Scalise, and Majority
- 2:04Speaker 1: Whip Tom Emmer. And this one is not just anonymous
- 2:08Speaker 1: House members anymore. It's signed by Benjamin Ayers, the president
- 2:12Speaker 1: of Clemson, Richard McCullough, the president of Florida State, Lee Roberts,
- 2:16Speaker 1: the chancellor of North Carolina, and Joe Echevarria, president and
- 2:20Speaker 1: CEO of Miami. Four schools, four signatures on one letter.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Here's what they're actually asking for, because this matters a
- 2:30Speaker 1: lot more than just another pressure campaign headline.
- 2:35Speaker 2: They want two things.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Raise the conference cap from 20 to 22 and remove
- 2:42Speaker 1: that three-year independence requirement entirely.
- 2:46Speaker 2: That's it. That's their whole ask. Notice what's not on
- 2:50Speaker 2: that list.
- 2:51Speaker 1: They're not asking Congress to kill Section 205. They're not
- 2:54Speaker 1: asking for the cap to disappear or for conferences to
- 2:58Speaker 1: be unlimited. They explicitly call this a compromise in the
- 3:03Speaker 1: letter itself. They write that the coalition worked together to
- 3:08Speaker 1: identify a compromise that addresses their concerns while also supporting
- 3:13Speaker 1: the broader goal of advancing a durable framework for college athletics.
- 3:19Speaker 1: I think that's a very different letter than the one
- 3:21Speaker 1: that we talked about yesterday. Yesterday's version from House members
- 3:25Speaker 1: wanted the whole provision gone. This one from the actual
- 3:29Speaker 1: university presidents with their names attached to it is asking
- 3:33Speaker 1: for two specific bounded changes and calling.
- 3:38Speaker 2: It exactly what it is.
- 3:40Speaker 1: I don't know how you'll look at this and don't
- 3:41Speaker 1: just say, hey, this is a compromise. And here's something
- 3:46Speaker 1: that's probably worth sitting on before we even get into
- 3:49Speaker 1: some kind of a financial argument. Go back and look
- 3:52Speaker 1: at what Levine actually said yesterday. He named Miami and
- 3:56Speaker 1: Florida State. Those are the two schools he called out
- 3:59Speaker 1: specifically as trying to blow up the ACC. Clemson and
- 4:03Speaker 1: North Carolina were not in that quote at all. But
- 4:06Speaker 1: today their president signed the exact same letter anybody. Nobody
- 4:10Speaker 1: made Ben Ayers or Lee Roberts attach their names to this.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Clemson and UNC weren't the two schools getting called out
- 4:18Speaker 1: in the press yesterday. They stepped into this fight publicly
- 4:22Speaker 1: on their own standing next to the two schools who
- 4:25Speaker 1: were already.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Taking the heat.
- 4:28Speaker 1: That tells you that this isn't just a Florida State
- 4:31Speaker 1: and Miami fight who are maybe trying to manage their
- 4:34Speaker 1: own PR problem. It's four schools deciding the ask is
- 4:39Speaker 1: worth the exposure.
- 4:41Speaker 2: They decided that together, and the two didn't even have to.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Worth doing the math on that 22 number, too, since
- 4:49Speaker 1: we spent a pretty good chunk of yesterday's video talking
- 4:52Speaker 1: about the cap. Remember, going from 19 to 20 opened
- 4:56Speaker 1: up six total spots between the SEC and the Big Ten.
- 5:00Speaker 1: You push that cap to 22, and the SEC could
- 5:04Speaker 1: theoretically add six themselves to The Big Ten could add
- 5:07Speaker 1: four instead of just two. So now you've got 10
- 5:10Speaker 1: combined openings on paper if both conferences ever decide to
- 5:14Speaker 1: use every seat available. Those four presidents are not asking
- 5:20Speaker 1: for a number that guarantees them a landing spot. They're
- 5:23Speaker 1: not asking for a super conference. They're asking for a
- 5:26Speaker 1: number that keeps the doors theoretically open just a little
- 5:30Speaker 1: bit longer. which is a very different thing than demanding
- 5:34Speaker 1: entry into a specific conference. Now, here's the line in
- 5:38Speaker 1: that letter that I think should end the entire argument,
- 5:42Speaker 1: because it's the part Levine conveniently never brings up. The
- 5:46Speaker 1: schools write that the three-year independence requirement would impose a
- 5:49Speaker 1: significant additional consequence on an institution seeking to change conferences,
- 5:55Speaker 1: particularly when conferences and their members have already negotiated the
- 6:00Speaker 1: financial terms surrounding an exit. Take that out of lawyer
- 6:04Speaker 1: speak for just a moment. Florida State and Clemson already
- 6:07Speaker 1: went to court over this. They spent the better part
- 6:10Speaker 1: of two years fighting the ACC's grant of rights, and
- 6:13Speaker 1: that fight ended with a real settlement, real numbers attached
- 6:17Speaker 1: to it, a sliding exit fee. that started at 165
- 6:21Speaker 1: million for the first year, and it goes down 18
- 6:24Speaker 1: every year after that until it's just 75 million flat
- 6:29Speaker 1: once you get to the 2030-2031 season. On top of that,
- 6:33Speaker 1: any school leaving has to give the conference notice by
- 6:37Speaker 1: June 1st of the year before that it is actually
- 6:39Speaker 1: going to be gone the following June. That's a 13-month
- 6:45Speaker 1: minimum just to walk out the door. before a single
- 6:49Speaker 1: dollar of that exit fee even gets paid. I think
- 6:53Speaker 1: that's already a pretty enormous price. It's real money. It's
- 6:55Speaker 1: real time. It's already been negotiated. It's already signed, and
- 6:59Speaker 1: it's already binding. And it's not just the exit fee.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Part of that same settlement gives Florida State and Clemson
- 7:05Speaker 1: veto power over the ACC's own bylaws. The conference can't
- 7:09Speaker 1: change those fees. They can't change its revenue distribution model.
- 7:13Speaker 1: They can't touch their own rulebook without Florida State and
- 7:15Speaker 1: Clemson signing off on it first. There's even a provision
- 7:18Speaker 1: in there for six or more schools to leave together
- 7:21Speaker 1: for a single sport league at half price. The ACC
- 7:26Speaker 1: didn't just let those two schools negotiate an exit. It
- 7:29Speaker 1: handed them real structural leverage inside of the conference itself
- 7:34Speaker 1: as part of the price for keeping them around for
- 7:37Speaker 1: a few more years. When you put all of that together,
- 7:40Speaker 1: you start to see how much these two schools have
- 7:42Speaker 1: already given up, how much they got just to reach
- 7:45Speaker 1: a settlement without blowing the ACC apart in open court.
- 7:50Speaker 1: They didn't walk away. They stayed. They took on a
- 7:52Speaker 1: fee that's still well over $ 100 million for the next
- 7:55Speaker 1: couple of years and then accepted a 13-month notice window
- 8:00Speaker 1: before they can even start that clock. That's the opposite
- 8:04Speaker 1: of a conference getting steamrolled. That's two sides negotiating hard
- 8:09Speaker 1: and landing somewhere both could live with. So when these
- 8:12Speaker 1: four presidents say that they've already negotiated the financial terms
- 8:16Speaker 1: surrounding an exit, they're not spinning anything. They're telling the truth.
- 8:20Speaker 1: FSU and Clemson paid actual dollars for the right to
- 8:25Speaker 1: eventually leave on their own terms. And now Section 205
- 8:29Speaker 1: shows up and tries to tack on a separate second term.
- 8:33Speaker 1: federal waiting period on top of the price that they've
- 8:36Speaker 1: already settled and agreed to? On top of the price
- 8:39Speaker 1: that the ACC agreed to? The ACC obviously supports this
- 8:44Speaker 1: as an extra measure to what they've already agreed to.
- 8:49Speaker 1: The ACC is hoping that Congress and the federal government
- 8:52Speaker 1: will do their work for them because they regret the
- 8:55Speaker 1: way that Florida State and Clemson bent them over in
- 8:58Speaker 1: public court and through this negotiation. We don't have four
- 9:02Speaker 1: schools that are trying to blow up anything. We have
- 9:04Speaker 1: four schools that are pointing out that the ticket has
- 9:07Speaker 1: already been bought once and somebody's trying to make them
- 9:10Speaker 1: pay for it twice. Calling that an attack on the
- 9:14Speaker 1: ACC is frankly ridiculous. These schools gave up real revenue
- 9:18Speaker 1: sharing concessions and real money to get this settlement done
- 9:22Speaker 1: without blowing up the conference outright. turning around and treating
- 9:26Speaker 1: their ask to not get double charged in Congress as
- 9:30Speaker 1: some kind of a bad faith sabotage is not a
- 9:33Speaker 1: fair reading of what's actually happened here.
- 9:36Speaker 2: It's the opposite of bad faith.
- 9:38Speaker 1: It's four schools asking Washington to not undo a deal
- 9:42Speaker 1: that they already worked out like adults. Now, before we
- 9:46Speaker 1: go on, there is actual football happening this weekend. So
- 9:49Speaker 1: since I've made you listen to this for about 10 minutes,
- 9:51Speaker 1: I'm going to give you some picks for this weekend.
- 9:53Speaker 1: I love this lineup. I know it's hard to pair
- 9:56Speaker 1: four things together and be right, but I'm doing it.
- 10:00Speaker 1: I'm pulling the trigger. I like CJ Carr's passing touchdowns.
- 10:03Speaker 1: I think he goes off against UNC. Sorry to the
- 10:05Speaker 1: Tar Heels that are watching this. I think he has
- 10:07Speaker 1: at least two. I love Jaden Ball's rushing total. I
- 10:10Speaker 1: won't take any line against that guy until he proves
- 10:13Speaker 1: me wrong. I like Darren Mensah for the Canes fans
- 10:16Speaker 1: that are in here to get at least more than 1.5
- 10:19Speaker 1: passing touchdowns, two on the road at Clemson. I think
- 10:22Speaker 1: he's going to have all day to throw. I think
- 10:24Speaker 1: he gets the two there. The running game or the
- 10:26Speaker 1: weather kind of worries me some. I also like Tony,
- 10:29Speaker 1: over 59.5 receiving yards. Get over on the PrizePix app,
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- 10:46Speaker 1: with me. Let's see how we do. I'll either brag
- 10:49Speaker 1: or eat some crow after the games happen. And that
- 10:52Speaker 1: brings us back to Levine, though, because this new letter
- 10:55Speaker 1: makes his contradiction from yesterday even harder to ignore.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Quick refresher.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Again, I covered this at length yesterday, so I won't
- 11:03Speaker 1: go through the whole thing. His whole case for keeping
- 11:05Speaker 1: Section 205 exactly as written rests on one line, that
- 11:09Speaker 1: the Big Ten and the SEC have told him they
- 11:11Speaker 1: have no plans to expand. If that's true, we've already
- 11:15Speaker 1: asked you why the cap matters at all. Today's letter
- 11:19Speaker 1: adds a second problem on top of that one. Because
- 11:22Speaker 1: it's now not just why do you need the cap,
- 11:25Speaker 1: it's why are you calling a bounded, self-described compromise.
- 11:31Speaker 2: An attack on the ACC?
- 11:33Speaker 1: When the people making that compromise just showed you your math.
- 11:38Speaker 1: The four presidents did not ask to blow way past
- 11:41Speaker 1: the cap. They asked for two specific numbers to move.
- 11:45Speaker 1: And they told Congress exactly why. They cited a settlement
- 11:51Speaker 1: that two of them have already paid real money to get.
- 11:54Speaker 1: treating that like a sabotage while simultaneously insisting that none
- 11:58Speaker 1: of this matters because nobody's expanding anyway, is Levine arguing
- 12:04Speaker 1: both that the stakes are low and that the response
- 12:07Speaker 1: needs to be this aggressive. You got to pick one
- 12:09Speaker 1: side or the other. There's also a detail about who
- 12:12Speaker 1: Levine is actually in this fight that's worth pointing out.
- 12:17Speaker 1: He's not an outside analyst. He's the vice chair of
- 12:20Speaker 1: Trump's Saving College Sports Roundtable, the body pushing this exact
- 12:25Speaker 1: bill through Washington, sitting right alongside Florida's own governor, Ron DeSantis,
- 12:29Speaker 1: who holds the other vice chair seat, a Florida governor
- 12:33Speaker 1: and a bill backing vice chair on the same commission,
- 12:38Speaker 1: while Florida State and Miami are publicly saying that the bill,
- 12:41Speaker 1: as written, charges them twice for freedom that they already
- 12:45Speaker 1: settled and paid for. Levine isn't refereeing this dispute from
- 12:49Speaker 1: the sideline. He's one of the people who wrote the
- 12:52Speaker 1: rule being complained about, and he's defending his own work.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Let's talk about what happens next for a moment, because
- 12:58Speaker 1: this isn't the only letter sitting in front of House
- 13:01Speaker 1: leadership right now. You've got yesterday's letter from a dozen
- 13:05Speaker 1: or so House members wanting the whole provision eliminated, and
- 13:08Speaker 1: now you've got this one from four sitting university presidents
- 13:11Speaker 1: asking for a specific letter compromise to take place instead.
- 13:18Speaker 1: You've got two different letters. You've got two different asks,
- 13:20Speaker 1: both landing on Speaker Johnson's desk in the same stretch
- 13:23Speaker 1: of two days. It's not a sign that this fight
- 13:27Speaker 1: is cooling off. It's a sign that it is stacking.
- 13:30Speaker 1: The House was already having to mull over whether it
- 13:33Speaker 1: wanted to touch Section 205 at all. Now they've got
- 13:36Speaker 1: a more radical option on the table from anonymous members,
- 13:39Speaker 1: and at the same time, they have a more moderate
- 13:42Speaker 1: name-attached option from the actual schools impacted, both pulling at
- 13:47Speaker 1: the same provision from different directions. And remember, from yesterday,
- 13:51Speaker 1: the clock has not stopped moving. The final day of
- 13:54Speaker 1: this Congress is still December 18th. Every one of those letters,
- 13:58Speaker 1: every quote, every new signature is eating into the same
- 14:01Speaker 1: shrinking window we talked about yesterday. If the House decides
- 14:06Speaker 1: to touch this provision at all in either direction, that
- 14:09Speaker 1: change still has to go back to the Senate for
- 14:12Speaker 1: another round of approval before that date where the whole
- 14:15Speaker 1: bill dies and starts over with a new Congress in January.
- 14:19Speaker 1: So now, The House doesn't just have a political problem.
- 14:23Speaker 1: It has to make a choice between two competing versions
- 14:26Speaker 1: of the same complaint on a deadline that isn't moving
- 14:29Speaker 1: for anybody. And think about the position that that puts
- 14:33Speaker 1: individual House members in. A lawmaker who was comfortable ignoring
- 14:38Speaker 1: the An anonymous letter from a handful of colleagues now
- 14:41Speaker 1: has to explain why he's also ignoring a letter signed
- 14:44Speaker 1: personally by the sitting presidents of four major universities with
- 14:49Speaker 1: real constituents and real alumni back home that are paying attention.
- 14:53Speaker 1: I think that's a much harder letter to wave off
- 14:56Speaker 1: in some press conference. requests like the one that we
- 15:00Speaker 1: got yesterday get buried in a pile. A letter with
- 15:03Speaker 1: Florida State's president's actual signature on it, Miami's president's actual
- 15:08Speaker 1: signature on it, Clemson and North Carolina's, that tends to
- 15:11Speaker 1: get some things moving.
- 15:13Speaker 2: There are a few things that I think are worth
- 15:14Speaker 2: watching here.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Whether any of the other magnificent seven, Virginia, Virginia Tech,
- 15:19Speaker 1: NC State, would they decide to put their own names
- 15:22Speaker 1: on something similar? Now that four of the seven have
- 15:26Speaker 1: shown that it's pretty survivable to go public. I want
- 15:29Speaker 1: to see whether Speaker Johnson's office responds to this letter
- 15:32Speaker 1: at all or just lets it sit the way that
- 15:35Speaker 1: leadership let the anonymous one sit. I want to see
- 15:38Speaker 1: if Levine adjusts his language or not. He's been called
- 15:41Speaker 1: out tremendously for the idea of why do you need
- 15:47Speaker 1: a cap if nobody wants to expand anyway? You can't
- 15:51Speaker 1: have it both ways. You can't be that much of
- 15:53Speaker 1: a hypocrite. And right now he is.
- 15:56Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how the ACC may respond.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Because now they've been called out for publicly supporting something
- 16:03Speaker 1: that contradicts what they agreed to in a settlement with
- 16:06Speaker 1: Florida State and Clemson. Here's where I land on all
- 16:09Speaker 1: of it. You've got four university presidents that did not
- 16:12Speaker 1: send a letter demanding chaos. They did not send a
- 16:15Speaker 1: letter demanding that the ACC be ripped to shreds. They
- 16:18Speaker 1: sent a letter asking to not be charged twice for
- 16:22Speaker 1: a freedom that they already negotiated and already paid real
- 16:25Speaker 1: money for in settlement fees.
- 16:27Speaker 2: I think that's a reasonable ask.
- 16:29Speaker 1: It's laid out in very reasonable language with real signatures
- 16:33Speaker 1: attached to it. Calling that an attempt to blow up
- 16:37Speaker 1: the ACC is not at all an accurate description of
- 16:40Speaker 1: what is happening here.
- 16:42Speaker 2: It's a talking point. And it's a.
- 16:44Speaker 1: Talking point coming from someone who, by his own admission,
- 16:48Speaker 1: is defending a rule against a threat that, in his
- 16:51Speaker 1: own words, does not exist. If the Big Ten and
- 16:55Speaker 1: the SEC genuinely have no plans to expand, then there's
- 16:59Speaker 1: no reason Section 205 needs to stay as written. And
- 17:02Speaker 1: if there's a reason it does need to stay as written,
- 17:05Speaker 1: then somebody needs to explain what that reason is. Because
- 17:08Speaker 1: trust me, nobody's expanding doesn't really hold up when you're
- 17:12Speaker 1: fighting this hard to keep the door locked anyway.
- 17:16Speaker 2: I'd love to know your thoughts down in the comments.
- 17:18Speaker 1: I promise this weekend and next week we'll talk a
- 17:20Speaker 1: whole lot more football than we will realignment, but I
- 17:23Speaker 1: would love to know what you think about all of
- 17:25Speaker 1: this going on. Does the letter from Florida State, Clemson, Miami,
- 17:30Speaker 1: or UNC change anything? Should the house hold the line
- 17:33Speaker 1: exactly where it is? Does the concept of some of
- 17:37Speaker 1: these programs having to pay twice to get out of
- 17:40Speaker 1: the ACC make sense?
- 17:42Speaker 2: Because it doesn't to me, but clearly I'm biased on this.
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