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She built a computer inside a purse and accidentally started a movement! ‪@UbeBoobey‬ TillyTalksTech! · Tilly Talks Tech

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: What the hell is a cyberdeck?
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_02: The latest merge of pop culture and technology has seen people building their own cyberdecks.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's a functional computer, but they've also been matching it to this deck.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_02: Cyberdecks have been around a long time, a form of off-good communication and survival.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_02: But now there's so much more, guiding thousands online into the world of technology and how they can actually stop building their own.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_02: This has been a super exciting wave to see, and my guest today is none other than the Trenta who started it all when she built her iconic mermo cyberdeck.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: The people loved it.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_02: In this episode, we're gonna talk about how to make one, the whole movement, and a little bit of politics too.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_02: This is season two, episode one of Talks Tech.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: Please give a very warm welcome to our first guest, Uber.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: Hello Uber.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the podcast.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Talks Tech.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for joining me here today.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_02: Because you are just the baddest gal in tech right now, all over my TikTok feed.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: What I saw is that you made this mermaid cyberdeck, which just like made a whole movement.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what the hell is a cyberdeck?
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: Because I hadn't heard about this before you.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so um a cyberdeck is it can be defined in many ways, but it's kind of just like a portable DIY computer.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it just really requires like a little microcomputer.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: But what's so fun about it is that the the DIY culture behind it and the culture of kind of reusing things and finding scraps, and it's also just a great hobby to learn um tech if you want to be more tech literate.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, I'm still a beginner, but that was kind of my entryway.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: The the first one was the mermaid cyberdeck.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm glad you saw that.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was so cool, and it's like it's so apparent how customizable these things are.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like you can make it do whatever you want.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I saw like little computers, you can use it as a note-taking app.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: I saw like little retro games, like so so so fun.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: What made you decide?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm gonna make a cyberdeck.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what was going through your mind when that came about?
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I have like this Pinterest board of um nostalgic like 2000s tech, and I was scrolling through and one came up that was like it was the first cyberdeck I saw, and I believe it's called I don't know how to pronounce it, but it's O-G-R-E, and it stands for like off-grid something, something.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I saw that it said it was DIY, and I was like, oh, DIY.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh, so like I could hypothetically do that myself.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: I I didn't know what went into it, so I started off learning from YouTube and kind of just seeing like how everyone else is building them, but there wasn't a lot of resources um on like specifics.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's quite hard because every cyberdeck is so different because obviously you're building it for your needs, so it's not like there's no tutorial that's like, yeah, this is exactly what you do and follow it because that's kind of not what the culture is about, it's kind of about like personalizing it for yourself.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: I just decided to build mine because all of the cyber decks that I saw, they were all really cool looking.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like I really like the cyberpunk kind of aesthetic, but I knew that like in my heart I was like, Oh, I really want one that looks like me.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, when when owners have dogs and the dog looks like them, yeah, but like my cyberdeck, uh, I wanted one to look like me.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like you're a baby.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh, that's so cute.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_02: How did you go about decorating your one?
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_02: Because I love it how you talk about how like you legit can just find stuff in your room that you forgot about and all of a sudden it has its place on this cyberdeck.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, no, I mean, because I'm kind of I I hoard a lot of like jewelry, I really like jewelry.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: And um, when I was making mine, I was I was thinking primarily about aesthetics because the whole point of why I wanted to build one was for the way that I could make it look.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I wanted to prove to myself that it could look, you know, hyper femme and still be functional.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I was I was just looking around my room, I was like, oh, what do I have?
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: I always have um kind of like wood stickers because I do a lot of like interior design, like DIY stuff, and I just like slap wood on everything, you know.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um I used that.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um and then I also, yeah, so the jewelry that I have, I have a lot of earrings and good thing they come in, you know, matching sets, and then I put these kind of like fins either side, and then um, yeah, like with nail art, because I also do nail art, I had like 3D gel polish that I kind of put around the rim of the screen, and then I colored it in gold, and I freaking love it.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, um, yeah, I think it looks I think it looks great, and I'm really happy with the way it turned out.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's so fun, like just to like because there's so many like aesthetics and stuff as well, which I also became I look I think I introduced to through your page because like as far as I'm concerned, there was like cyberpunk, steampunk, utopia, dystopian, but like there's so many like aesthetic branches that sort of go down, and it got like so much love across socials.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_02: Were you expecting that when you put it out?
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh hell no, no, no, no.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: Hell no, uh no.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't I was like well, the thing is like all of the the comments I get that are like why is she doing this?
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Girl, I thought that myself.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, why the hell am I doing this?
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um so honestly, I I didn't think anyone would care.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't think it would it it was gonna blow up.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: I put it out there on a whim, and uh I'm so glad that there's so much support, but I definitely didn't expect it.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: So especially more like girls are like getting into coding and realizing like they can make this stuff, it's typical.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: Speaking of that, like I definitely want to make one.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I feel like that would be so cool, like having like the little like bonacans and like the matching matching like nails to the purse cyberdeck, whatever.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: So cool.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm so excited.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_02: It will be fun, and I will document the whole thing, and of course I'll tag you because you're the best teacher for everybody.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you've been going through it all on your YouTube channel and stuff.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_02: But anybody who's like hearing this and like hear that same tune, like DIY and thinking, oh wait, I can make one.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: What are like the components that go into making one?
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_02: Because obviously we can customize them, we can make them do whatever, but like for the foundation of it, how do we go about making one ourselves?
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so like the bare, bare minimum is always like a microcomputer.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna need something like an orange pie or a Raspberry Pi.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I use Raspberry Pi just because that was the one that I saw everyone else using.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then obviously you're gonna need some kind of screen, a touch screen, HDMI screen, whatever kind of screen, just to display people, use their old phones, um, whatever you can find.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then you're gonna need a power supply, so it can be a portable charger or a Lipo battery.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: You you can get like tiny, tiny batteries.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: They're so cute, actually.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I have one here.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love how I was gonna say, I love how like but I love you feel like so maternal about like small little tech things.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh look at her.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know me too.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: I love, I love like, oh my gosh, they're so cute.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, miniatures.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, like that's a whole other thing.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then you're gonna want everything to connect, obviously.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: So um your microcomputer, it's gonna have some like USB-C or micro USB, and you just need there's like three cables you need the power one, and then one to power the screen, and then the HDMI to do the image thing.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's like the basics, and then like accessories that people probably wanna think about are like a keyboard.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, if you're like someone who needs to type, or you can have a touch screen as well.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's completely yeah, that's up to you.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it's it's from there you can go crazy.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: I've titled the next part of the segment, If you can't escape tech, do it on your own terms.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_02: And like I was saying in our intro before I hit record, I feel like we live in a climate where there's so much going on technologically, and particularly our generation, um, they have a more of a cautious approach than people think.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I was speaking to some like millennials about this the other day, and they were shocked by that.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_02: They were like, What?
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: But from the people I talk to and what we see online, like people call it like AI slop, everyone's scared of the robots taking over, like they really are.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like through your sort of content, you are starting to showcase technology in this like beautiful, whimsical, do-it-your own way sort of light.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I was wondering why do you think it is now that people are kind of rejecting that sleek Apple minimalism look for more like chunky, weird, personal YT Y2K?
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: Why do you think that is?
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there's so many interesting things that go into like I guess like the philosophy of cyberdex.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, if if we talk about it in terms of fashion and art, um, they say that you know, every trend cycle is is typically like 20 years, and say, like, polka dots, I don't know the exact time, but they were really big, say, in like the 60s, and then they came back around in the 80s, and then now we're kind of seeing them come back.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like there's always like a cycle and a pendulum effect almost of like, oh yeah, this is really popular right now, and then it swings to the other side of like, oh no, like uh, we actually hate that, so overdone, and then it comes back, but kind of repackaged in a in a different way.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: As you were saying, like millennials and Gen Z, when when we were younger, as far as I'm concerned, like our relationship with technology wasn't yet so reliant, and technology the way that it looked was kind of a bit more playful, and we see that in trends like uh fruitigero, where technology is very like bubbly and bright and optimistic, you know, because it kind of reflected those ideals of um technology being a tool for for the better.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I think in the past decade when minimalism in tech like came on the rise, because of you know, capitalism, it's easier to sell them in bulk and easier to manufacture them, and because minimalism can appeal to literally everyone, um, and I I sort of think maybe people are kind of trying to push back a bit in kind of like a a way to be like actually, I can make my own technology and not subscribe to you know buying from mega corporations, and I can also make it um personal to me, which is something that has been we've been missing out on in the past decade.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think politically speaking, um now is a great time to be doing that, and also just aesthetically speaking, people are bored.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like nobody nobody captures the aesthetics like Gen Z.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: I swear to god, I mean it's some it's a new aesthetic every week, and like I'm afraid it's like it's new, and we have all these creative juices, which is why I think it would be such a shame for us not to like invest into technology and like hide away from it because I feel like Gen Z have so much appeal that can make technology like so much better and like more fun and less like it's us be them, you know, kind of on a geddon.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I feel like we can do something here, you know, and you you fully are like paving that way.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, the the amount of aesthetics that you can lean into here, I had no idea about like cyberpunk, steampunk.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I hear that a lot.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: One I've been hearing a lot about is solar punk, and I feel like something there as well.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_02: Gorgeous, looked into that, so cool, definitely like the utopian future.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like we all want to.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's so sick.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's also it's like also sustainability, you know, like having renewable energy, like solar power.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think that's so cool, and it it kind of enables you to be a bit more off-grid rather than relying on like you know, having to like plug into a wall or whatever, you know.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: You can kind of you can make your own power, and I think people are really into kind of the idea of having more control.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, like yeah, I love solar punk, and I'm seeing a lot of people kind of talking about how um they're growing in optimism for like a solar punk future, and I think that's really that's really cute.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's so nice, it's so nice.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, genuinely, if that was our future, like some of the images I see on Pinterest of Solar Punk, if I looked outside and I would like look like that, it would be a happy world.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: Looking at technology through an artistic lens with all of these different avenues in mind, what sort of vibes have you seen people creating and what would you say is your favorite?
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like, do you have a favorite?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: It is so hard to pick because all I like I love every aesthetic.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think um, I think they're so cool, but like obviously I'm personally biased to like have my own.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I've seen um I have a friend on TikTok, she's called I believe Amora, um, and she is making a Sailor Moon one, and it's like pink and it's like clear and it is so pretty.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um the thing is, like I think uh with Gen Z they're quite quick to label.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: And when I made my Cyberdeck, I wasn't calling it the Mermaid Cyberdeck, you know.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: I was just like, oh, this is just me in a cyberdeck, you know.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I was getting comments like, oh, what what is this aesthetic called?
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I don't know, dude.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like and I just called it the mermaid cyberdeck because I feel like you know, because everyone's like attention spans are like five seconds long and they need to have like a hook, otherwise they're not into it.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Yeah, it's the mermaid cyberdeck, and I I really like all of the really hyper femme ones.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm seeing someone make it in a poly pocket, and I think that is so funny.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, that is so cool! It's so cute.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, other than that, I really do like the classic cyber decks, like the classic cyberpunk ones, like built in a in a toolbox or a pelican case.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: I love those two.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: I think they're just yeah, I feel I feel like that must be like the hardest part is like deciding when which punk I want to do it.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: Which punk do I be?
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: Seriously, I'm gonna have to put it out like a poll.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: But the other thing I loved about your content, and it's part of your TikTok bio as well, where it's like you put it out there that you're a noob in technology.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I love that because you know you gotta start somewhere, and I feel like there's all these incredible concepts that you see out there, but then so many people will shut down and be like, Well, I can't do that, I don't have the skill set and things like that.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas you fully you say you're like you're you're a hobby master, like you jump hobbies, like it's no tomorrow.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I love that because I feel like that's kind of a lost art.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like sometimes we like we'll look at something and just think, can we do it?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: Can we not?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: We don't understand, especially in this like time of brain raw, that actually we can learn something new.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anything else that you've like learned through experimenting with technology that you just didn't even know some of these devices even existed?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: There's so many, actually.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: I've I've like I'm at the very tip of the iceberg.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: Recently, I learned about Meshtastic, which is kind of like an off-grid way to communicate with your friends and your family.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: No, like no cell service, no no data, no Wi-Fi.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's really awesome.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's great for people who might be in kind of like um natural disaster areas where it often shuts down.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's another thing.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I really like the idea that um another tangent, sorry everyone.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: I really like the idea that cyberdex, because these are DIY and you can have access to things like offline Wikipedia, offline music and offline maps and stuff like that.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: I really like the idea of having it accessible for places in the world that aren't as you know first world and like have a really secure kind of um network of technology and stuff, you know, like um in places that experience a lot of natural disasters.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think something like a cyberdeck would be like really useful for when electricity isn't working and stuff like that.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, back to a question.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I didn't know that you could 3D print metal, and I think that's really cool.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I found out on PCB way, and I like really want to use it in one of my projects because like like oh I don't know, it's so cool.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Found out that yeah, you can have like clear, clear resin prints and like metallic prints, like using different filament.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's that is like child's play for a 3D printing enthusiast.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: But because I just got a 3D printer recently, I was like diving into it and I was like, what?
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how why aren't more people doing this?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's so cool.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm also finding out more about kind of reusing um and like everything that we have around us that is kind of we see as waste but can be so easily reused.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think that's that's really cool.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, there's there's just so much I'm trying to wrap my head around right now.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's quite like overwhelming, but in in a good way.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's like you can experiment, and tech is something that is like a never a never-ending rabbit hole, and I'm I'm only just getting into it.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really excited to see like what else is out there for me.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's like like you said, it's a never-ending, it's a void that you fill down one day.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like that's why it puts so many people off because they're like, God, where do I even start?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I feel like what is manageable for our generation is these like 15-second clips on TikTok where they realize, wait, it's we can break this down, like we can figure it out, and before you know it, you can have a cool ass cyberdeck.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anything that you're like dying to implement that you haven't yet?
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, like oh, so much.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: I have I have like so many ideas on like other projects to do.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, right now I'm making like an Ammonite uh MP3, and I kind of want like the mouth of the Ammonite to like be the speaker, like experimenting with like that spiral structure that is similar to the one we have in our ears to kind of help amplify the music.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think that would be so cool.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: I also want to experiment more with uh microcontrollers.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen people building really cool robots, and I think that's just insane.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um other things that I want to try and implement are like really fun, like tactile buttons.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like one thing that Gen Z loves is like a good button, just like that's so true.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I think you know, like we kind of lack that in like our phones because it's just like a screen and there's nothing really like satisfying about it.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, so yeah, I think having that like analog like clicks and stuff, I I would love like just a doohickey.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: My my main thing is like I while I'm still learning about technology, the whole point of why I'm doing what I'm doing is to kind of prove that like we don't need to rely on Megacorpse and that we can kind of just make our own stuff and make it personal to us, and it's also kind of everyone's got their own aesthetic, whether they know it or not.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Some people are just more aware of it, and it's kind of also like a self-journey thing to kind of discover what you really like and what you really want to put into something, and I think it kind of makes you it forces you to learn more about yourself.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just I just want to try and experiment as much as possible in future projects, uh, expand my knowledge and expand my kind of visual uh brand and stuff like that.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, that's so cool.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think there's like so much power in like individualism and stuff like that, and like we're all so different.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like, if you can sit down, like everyone's got their cyberdeck at the table, you're like, I'm dying to know what's in hers, what's in yours.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: How did you decide this?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: How did this come to be?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: Because you've pouring so much of yourself and like your creativity into it, I think it becomes like something entirely different, and it does say a lot about a person.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: I see a lot of parallels in the way like I decorate like Marlborough and Combs, and like people will come in and like pick what colour they want, and people are accessorizing all these like additional devices, whether they're accessories or like medical devices, people are pouring their creativity into that, and I feel like that's something we're like really seeing, which has just been such a cool wave.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, you like I think it's great also because like if we remember when when minimalism in technology was on the rise, people have always wanted to do like those personalized phone case workshops where you like go to a workshop and you like stick stuff on it, you know.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't think um people ever truly wanted, unless that's like your aesthetic, which no hate, that's fine.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: But I I personally, whenever I see anyone with a phone, they have a phone case that says something.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, people don't want to just have something that comes out of a factory and doesn't say anything about the type of person you are.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, even if you do have a minimalist phone case that just says, oh, you know, like I I'm a I'm a functional person, I look for functionality and I don't require much, you know.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, everything is a choice, everything's so intentional.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's so cool.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like just to like walk down the street, and if everybody was literally their like fullest mosophonic self walking down the street, like we just live in such a colorful world.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: I think there's a lot of herd mentality, I feel yeah, um, which is like understandable, you know, because like we're there's so many pressures and things that especially we fall victim to on our phones, but I feel like this is a trend where it's finally like the trend is actually to propel the creativity and literally be as authentic as possible, which brings me on to my next point, which is more negative, like kind of PMO, don't want to talk about it, but the misogyny, like when you've been posting about this, and well, I saw you talking about how somebody told you it was performative.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, this doesn't make sense to me.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: Talk me through what that has all been about, if you even understand.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: It um yeah, I mean I'm big on I'm massive on feminism.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean my boyfriend will tell you all I do is talk about how much I bloody anyway.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um I love everyone of all genders and you know I think we all have a lot to learn from each other.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but there is a lot of uh kind of gatekeep culture.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think you know, um there's links between you know technology spaces and the gaming industry and the kind of demographic that is typically male dominated that kind of fosters isolation and men who I don't know how to put it like elegantly to be honest, but like as as people call it, the male loneliness epidemic.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: So so I guess sort of when women come into a space that is typically male dominated, I think it's met with sort of either like confusion or the the feeling of being threatened.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: And then obviously the kind of the way the way that uh they respond to that is just by you know hurling insults or like you know, belittling people, which is something I I'm not you know, I wasn't confused by I knew that was gonna happen, and that's very expected because I've been in male-dominated industries my entire life.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like I did music business and you know, just yeah, yeah.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I get um a lot of comments about, you know, like oh, she's being pretentious, like she doesn't really know what she's talking about, it's not functional and stuff like that.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I mean it's it's interesting because cyberdecks before I had discovered them, the cyberdeck community was already aesthetics based, it was just a more masculine, masculine.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: The the aesthetic is like rugged, tactile, cyberpunk, you know, like yeah dingy, you know, made of scraps, made of like black acrylic and like oh like metal and stuff like that.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: It was already aesthetics-based, and the only thing that I changed was I made it more FEM.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: I made it in my aesthetic.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't do anything differently, it was still functional, it just looked slightly different.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then I suppose men are a bit quick to label it as performative.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is another comment that I got.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, um, yeah, women who are into male hobbies like gaming and tech, they're only into it because their boyfriend is.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: If you met his boyfriend, if you met my boyfriend, you'd be like, what the f because he doesn't know about tech, dude.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like the other thing at work, he struggled to plug in a HDMI cable and like display something.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, why don't why doesn't your work hire me?
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I could so do that for you.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: And like I built my gaming PC, bro did not know what I was doing, and I did it, and he was like, Wow, like I'm really proud of you, like that's awesome.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: I I I wouldn't even know where to begin.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Yeah, yeah, mummy got you, like I love that, but yeah, like I think um because the the cyberdeck tech gaming space is already male dominated, and kind of like the fact that there's more room being carved out for queer femme presenting people, it naturally is like threatening to them, even though it's I wouldn't say we're like taking over the their space, we're just making new space, but yeah, like I don't yeah, I mean I I'm used to it, so it's fine.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: Shame because like you should like you know, you said you like you expected it, and that's a shame because it's like at the end of the day, you've still got this skill set, you've still but built this thing from the ground, like you know, and I think like it's just out those elements of expression, those little like girly little details can be so triggering to people.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's like god damn.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's so real though.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like my whole life growing up in technology, it's I don't even know this will be in the cult, right?
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, like my I feel like my audience, as much as I make girly feminine content, it's always been very male dominated simply because of the fact that I wear prosthetics and like they're a part of like my body.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I was so excited when I saw your content, and I just love to see that sort of like gap bridge in because girls can exist in these spaces and they can put their own personal flair onto it and make something like brand new, super cool, functional, and pretty like that's a possibility.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, yeah.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: No, I was I was shocked when I looked at my metrics for the first time, and yeah, it was over overwhelmingly um women presenting people, and that was really exciting for me because I expected it to be majority men, not that that would have been an issue, um, but yeah, the fact that it was mostly women and and that I'm getting most of my support from women that makes me really happy because I mean, like like my inner child, like she is like screaming right now.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: This is awesome for me.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and the fact that so many women are are building their own and we've got this little community, I think it's just so much fun.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like it's actually so powerful how just the mention of like expression and putting glitter on something that is like traditionally kind of like ste a STEM sort of thing, which would attract a male audience, can do a 180 and just bring all the women who are like supportive of that together.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's awesome.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: But it's also I was kind of thinking like um like because I've made Cyberdex kind of like aesthetic, it's attracting more women, but then I also kind of I didn't know how to say this, so I never kind of did, but I was kind of thinking about um am I coming across that like women can only make something if it's pretty, you know.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, am I am I kind of leaning into like gender essentialism if if you know what I mean?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know because I I love the support and I love the the different aesthetics that everyone's doing, but I don't know if I'm promoting like the kind of ideal of like yeah, I don't know how to explain it, but like I'm I'm a girl, so my tech is pink, you know.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I fully get you.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm always trying to be very careful about the the way I'm coming across and what I'm saying about women in tech and aesthetics, because I also want women to know that like you can make this shit and make it ugly, like no one's gonna care that you didn't make a mermaid one.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I just I just wanted it to be accessible to everyone, no matter you know what what you want it to look like.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um and yeah, like I mean, I I love all of the comments that are like, oh, you know, like women in STEM are like, oh yeah, you've made it like girly pop.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm also like, no, I didn't make it girly pop, I just I think I made it me, and I think that's more what sat with people rather than the fact that it was like a woman doing it.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I I mean I don't know, we'll never know.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's a really interesting take.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like it's clear that you like you care a lot about like what you're putting out and saying because of that, because like it is an issue, and at the end of the day, you've been at the receiving end of like being in male-dominated spaces, receiving these comments, which are just wrong and stupid at the end of the day.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, the fact that like you put so much care into like what comes out of your mouth that says a lot, and I think we'd all just be better off appreciating the thing for what it is, you know.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, like you made a cyberdeck, you built this thing and you made it how you wanted it to look.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: I want to know your visions for the future.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how do you hope technology, expression, creativity will all come together in one happy world in the future?
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think um I think finding more like renewable sources of energy, like I think the fact that everyone's kind of like trying to be a bit more mindful about what they're what they're consuming when they build cyberdex, like the fact that they're looking for more scrap than buying new, I think that's great, like kind of the reuse culture, and also you know, with the solar powered stuff, I think more people are getting into that as well.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I think it would be great to have a future where I think a tech as a hobby is as mainstream as like going to the gym or something.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because especially um now we're kind of at a stage where we look around and we're like, oh, how the hell does that work?
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: And if you broke it open, you wouldn't understand a thing, you know.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: And if tech became mainstream and like really accessible to the masses, then we would see so much more innovation and so much more creativity as well on like an artistic scale.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: It would be it would be so cool, almost like having like a Pokemon, I guess.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just think like people just carry around all of their fun projects that they're building, and they're like, Oh, what's in your one?
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, this is like how I did it, and this is what mine looks like.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think that would be so much fun, and it would really open so many doors into the way that we think about our relationship with technology moving forward.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what materials are we using, and how does this benefit the planet, and how does this benefit everyone and society as a whole?
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's kind of yeah, that would be really cool.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah, that is that is so cool.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's just getting a nice balance, isn't it?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like it doesn't have to be so black and white.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: We can care about multiple things at once, like creative processes, making cool things, also caring about the environment and the materials we're using to do that.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, throughout this episode, you really are like kind of just the combination of all those things.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like that really does come through on your socials.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: I I love it.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: You're like my favorite account on TikTok.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: And for anybody who wants to like follow along with your journey, your current project, you can tell us a little bit more about that.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I have a TikTok page, it's called Ube Boobe, and that's kind of where I put my short form, like updates on my projects and really short tutorials.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then on YouTube I have my long form, which is where I go through the project start to finish.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and on my current project, I'm doing kind of like a desert themed sci-fi MP3 player because I've never done that before.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to prove to people that, you know, cyberdex isn't where custom technology stops, you know, like we can go further and we can we can look at other things that we maybe want to customize and make ourselves.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, like as much as I could have gotten stuck in cyberdex, I wanted to prove to everyone that, you know, like there's so many avenues.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um and yeah, so I also I also stream on Twitch a lot of gaming stuff, also under Ubi Booby.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I just I'm looking forward to seeing what I can learn next and what other random I make.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yay! Oh, so exciting! So exciting.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: The possibilities are endless.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: And what do you play on Twitch?
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: I want to know that.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, uh Valorant and like friendslop.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, yeah, like uh like Peak and stuff like that, like repo.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_02: So I'll be on the next stream.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, thank you.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, thank you so much.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_02: It has been such a joy chatting to you.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, you just like all the things I love.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm all about customizable tech.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's so cool, I think it's epic, and yeah, the more people who can like find their expression through technology and innovation, like it's just not a topic spoken about enough, I feel great.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm a massive fan.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for having me.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, that was so good.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: When I tell you she is my favorite creator on TikTok now, I'm not even kidding.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not even just saying that for the pod.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: I love her and I think what she's doing is incredible.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just making the world of technology more accessible because we know there's a lot to learn in this world.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: And customizable technology is just the latest, coolest wave that I hope doesn't die out as a trend because I mean I've been customising technology my whole life.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's such a massive part of my life and what I do.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we literally have all these colours on the wall here.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's been a really meaningful discovery in my life to realize that, you know, we can do that.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, not everybody wears prosthetics, but I feel like this is just a universal avenue of how we can inject some more expression into our technology.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_02: And like Ube Bube said, I think that's something that we've definitely been missing in the last decade or so.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, let me know your thoughts down below.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: Let me know if you're gonna make your own cyberdeck.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: I really wanna make my own.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna dip my toes in and see how it goes.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_02: But if any of you take anything away from this and want to make your own cyberdeck, I wanna see the process.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: Tag me, send it in.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_02: Let me know how you're decorating it because I just think that is so freaking cool.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for watching this episode of Tully Talks Tech, the first episode of season two.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: I've been planning this season for a long time, and the guests we got lined up are amazing.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_02: If you like this sort of content, do definitely stick around.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: Make sure to like, comment, and subscribe.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_02: Join the Transformers community, go check out Uber Bube, she is a legend, and I will see you all next week.
• 34:58
  unknown: Bye.