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- 0:00Welcome to Loud and Lifted Quick Lift, where
- 0:02we take a full episode and boil it down to the
- 0:04biggest takeaways and action items you can actually
- 0:06use. Today, we're talking about one of those
- 0:09topics that makes a lot of women instantly uncomfortable,
- 0:12asking for more. More money, more opportunity,
- 0:15more recognition, more of what you have actually
- 0:18earned. I sat down with Bobna Smith, founder
- 0:20of Until There Are Nine, and this conversation
- 0:23was so good because it wasn't just fluffy advice.
- 0:26It was real, practical, and honestly the kind
- 0:28of stuff women should be taught way earlier in
- 0:30their careers. Bobna shared that for years she
- 0:33did what so many of us do. She accepted the offer.
- 0:36She didn't negotiate, and she assumed if she
- 0:39did the work, she would just keep moving up and
- 0:41things would work out. Then, one recruiter asked
- 0:44her a simple question one day, what's your number?
- 0:46Instead of throwing out a number, she asked what
- 0:48they were offering, got a range that was much
- 0:51higher than what she would have asked for, and
- 0:53ended up with nearly a 70 % salary increase.
- 0:56That moment changed everything and eventually
- 0:58led her to the work that she does today, now
- 1:01helping women advocate for compensation and promotion.
- 1:04Let's get into the key takeaways and action items.
- 1:08Takeaway number one. Hard work is not the argument.
- 1:11Business value is. A lot of women fall into the
- 1:14same trap, taking up more, handling more, fixing
- 1:17more, and quietly hoping someone will connect
- 1:20the dots and reward them for it. But that is
- 1:22not usually how it works. More effort does not
- 1:25automatically equal more pay. More responsibility
- 1:28does not automatically equal recognition. I mentioned
- 1:32the episode, I am totally guilty of this. Early
- 1:35on in my career I kept taking on more and more
- 1:37and I thought I would just get compensated for
- 1:40eventually. I never asked and guess what? I never
- 1:43got the pay that went along with the responsibilities
- 1:45that I had taken on. And that was one of the
- 1:47strongest points in Bobna's conversation. You
- 1:49cannot build your case on just being loyal, helpful,
- 1:53overextended, or exhausted. You build it on facts,
- 1:56on scope, on results, on value, and actually
- 1:59asking. If your role has grown, that is not an
- 2:02emotional conversation. It's a business conversation.
- 2:05The company hired you for one level of responsibility
- 2:07and compensation. If this has materially changed,
- 2:11your pay or title should be evaluated too. That
- 2:14does not make you difficult. it makes you aware.
- 2:17Babna also gave us a really useful framework
- 2:19for thinking about your impact. People developer,
- 2:21business operator, value creator. And ideally,
- 2:24at least one of your examples has a dollar sign,
- 2:27a percentage or a measurable result tied to it.
- 2:29Because I work really hard is super easy to dismiss,
- 2:33but I improved retention by 12 % is not. Action
- 2:37item here, create a one page value tracker for
- 2:39yourself. Start by listing everything that has
- 2:42expanded in your role over the last few months.
- 2:45Then organize your accomplishments in the people
- 2:47developer, business operator, or value creator
- 2:50category. Under each one, write down the wins,
- 2:53additional responsibility, and outcomes that
- 2:55you have driven. Then quantify as much as you
- 2:58can. Where did you save time, improve a process,
- 3:01grow revenue, support the team, or increase efficiency?
- 3:04That becomes the foundation for a stronger, more
- 3:07factual compensation and promotion conversation.
- 3:11Takeaway number two. Timing is not a detail.
- 3:14It's a strategy. This was one of my favorite
- 3:16parts of the conversation because I have seen
- 3:19this from both sides. Bhavna was very clear.
- 3:22Asking for a raise during the performance review
- 3:24is too late. Because by then, budgets and promotion
- 3:27decisions were likely made months earlier. Budget
- 3:30timing is the one concern. The other is just
- 3:33understanding the current business environment.
- 3:36I shared a story in the episode about an employee
- 3:38asking for a major raise right after a meeting
- 3:40where we had just talked about missing budget
- 3:42and trying to protect the business. It completely
- 3:45hurt her credibility because of her timing. Not
- 3:48because she never should have asked, but because
- 3:50she was clearly not paying attention to what
- 3:51was happening around her. So yes, be confident.
- 3:54but also read the room, read the company, read
- 3:57the budget cycle, and read the moment. Action
- 4:00item here, figure out when your company actually
- 4:02makes compensation and promotion decisions. Hint,
- 4:05it's probably in the early fall. It's not when
- 4:08they announce them and it's not when your performance
- 4:10review is. Then work backwards and plan your
- 4:12conversation ahead of that window. Takeaway number
- 4:16three, visibility matters way more than women
- 4:18want it to. Here we are back again to the importance
- 4:21of exposure. Bavna said something really important.
- 4:24You can't negotiate your value if you can't recognize
- 4:27it and articulate it. And then the communication
- 4:29has to happen throughout the year, not just once
- 4:32a year during performance reviews. She also talked
- 4:35about how women often worry that sharing wins
- 4:37feels like bragging. Her reframe was great. Think
- 4:40of it as communication and stakeholder management.
- 4:43Ask yourself, who needs to know this? That's
- 4:46smart. That's strategic. That's not bragging.
- 4:48That's making sure the people making decisions
- 4:50actually know what you contribute. And exposure
- 4:53beyond your direct manager matters too, because
- 4:56a lot of promotion and raises and decisions are
- 4:58made by people other than just your manager.
- 5:01You want your name to come up in the room and
- 5:03people to nod and to agree with that. Action
- 5:07item here, pick three people outside your direct
- 5:09manager who should know more about your work.
- 5:12Then think about how you can increase visibility
- 5:14naturally, project updates, cross -functional
- 5:17collaboration, recap emails, presenting results,
- 5:20or simply being more intentional about who is
- 5:23in the loop. Takeaway number four, ask better
- 5:26questions, especially when you're taking on a
- 5:28new role. Bob and I gave us one of the best lines
- 5:31for job offers, never ever give your number,
- 5:34if you can avoid it. Ask them for the range.
- 5:37Ask how they determined it. Ask what criteria
- 5:39places someone at the low, middle, or high end
- 5:42of that range. That keeps you from negotiating
- 5:45against yourself. She also made the point that
- 5:48companies usually have this budgetary range,
- 5:50and they're going to start at the lower end.
- 5:51And it's not because they're evil cartoon villains,
- 5:54but because businesses are business. If you accept
- 5:57it immediately, they just save money. That's
- 5:59why asking questions matters. Action item, next
- 6:03time you're discussing a new role, use these
- 6:05questions. What is the range for the role? What
- 6:07criteria determines where someone falls in the
- 6:10range? What would distinguish someone at the
- 6:12top of the range from someone at the bottom?
- 6:15And the final takeaway, when you make your ask,
- 6:18stop talking. Honestly, this was a mic drop moment,
- 6:22great at the end of an episode. Bobna said women
- 6:24often make the ask and then immediately start
- 6:27softening it. We explain, we qualify, we add
- 6:30personal details, we start backpedaling in real
- 6:32time. Instead, make the ask, then just stop.
- 6:36Let the silence do its job. Yes, the silence
- 6:39feels long and it feels uncomfortable. And to
- 6:42the person, they're probably just thinking about
- 6:43what you just asked. So it feels like a normal
- 6:45pause. You do not need to break the silence.
- 6:49I know it's hard. action item before your next
- 6:52compensation or promotion conversation, write
- 6:54out your ask in one clean sentence, and then
- 6:57practice saying it out loud in the car in front
- 7:00of a mirror. Just say it multiple times until
- 7:02you're comfortable saying what you're asking
- 7:04for, giving them the business case and the rationale,
- 7:08and then be quiet. Weirdly hard, very powerful.
- 7:12So if I were to leave you with the biggest message
- 7:15from this quick lift, it is this. You are allowed
- 7:17to advocate for yourself. You are allowed to
- 7:20ask better questions. You are allowed to understand
- 7:22your value in business terms. And you are definitely
- 7:25allowed to stop waiting for someone else to magically
- 7:28notice because your career is too important to
- 7:31leave up to vibes and hope. If you haven't already
- 7:34done so, please listen to the full episode from
- 7:37Bobna. It is packed with great negotiation information.
- 7:40If this message hit, share it with a friend,
- 7:42and until next time, stay loud and stay lifted.