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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, December 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. It is presented by Ashley Home Store. And
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Speaker 1: now a guy who always has room for just one more? J. P. Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: why not? Why not? Welcome room proved more than one
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Speaker 1: more last night, Happy birthday. Thanks man, I appreciate that.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Ashley
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Speaker 1: Home Store on this Thursday. JP. Shadrick, that's Jeff Logerman.
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Speaker 1: Tony Vasselia is on the line with us from Kansas City, Missouri.
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Speaker 1: Tony Thursday night football coming up. You're not at the stadium, though,
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Speaker 1: I understand, not at the stadium today. I'm actually in
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Speaker 1: the hotel room. Okay, we've lost Tony. We'll get back.
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Speaker 1: We'll get back with you and just a moment. Oh well,
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Speaker 1: well then, first of all, did you see the shirts
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Speaker 1: here that he's wearing, like like a nineteen eighties plaid shirt.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, who's dressing ball? Not good anyway,
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Speaker 1: We'll get back to Tony Thursday and football, by the way,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a big time game tonight
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Speaker 1: Kansas City and San Diego in Kansas City, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the Chargers have not had much success against the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: over the years. It doesn't matter. This is gonna be
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Speaker 1: an exciting game that the Chargers are playing extremely well.
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are are the hot team in the National Football
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Speaker 1: League with the hottest young quarterback that's coming to the
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Speaker 1: National Football League and in a long time, long time?
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Speaker 1: Can you guys hear me now? Yes? Good? Sorry, we
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Speaker 1: had some internet issues here. Yeah, we have great technology
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Speaker 1: here from Joe. But Jeff, I was listening to what
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Speaker 1: you were saying about this game tonight and watching the tape.
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Speaker 1: You talk about fun and an exciting game. And why
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Speaker 1: are you laughing? I'm not sure because you missed the
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Speaker 1: part I said about your shirt. Where where'd you get
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Speaker 1: the shirt that's like in nineteen eighties pledg shirt? Going
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Speaker 1: to chop some wood laters? Yeah, I was. I was
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Speaker 1: cutting firewood down the street, both side job. It's very here.
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Speaker 1: It's Paul Budget, the Giant Tony. Tony lives in Jacksonville, Florida.
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Speaker 1: Now he hasn't bought winter close since the nineteen eighties.
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Speaker 1: He's going to cold weather place. He's breaking out stuff
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Speaker 1: that he wore back in nine or maybe back in
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Speaker 1: the eighties from Colorado. You have cowboy boots onto cowboy boots.
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Yeah, But anyways, back to the game, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: you're right. You're talking about exciting game and watching these
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Speaker 1: guys on tape, both teams, it's gonna be, uh, it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a really good football game. And Patrick Mahomes
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Speaker 1: and what he does with his arm, the talent that
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Speaker 1: he has and the throws that he is able to make,
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Speaker 1: it actually opens the entire field up and it forces
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Speaker 1: the defense to cover literally eight yards of the field
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Speaker 1: because if it's if the players within eight yards, they
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Speaker 1: are in the arm strength distance of Patrick Wrohomes. Well,
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Speaker 1: and let me say this, his offensive line gives him
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Speaker 1: the ability to also look at that entire field. He's
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Speaker 1: got one of the best performing offensive line as a group. Okay,
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Will will pick this game
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Speaker 1: coming a little bit later is what's coming up on
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Speaker 1: the show today. The Redskins Week continues with the Jags
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Speaker 1: on Thursday. We'll play a little crossfire and we'll get
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Speaker 1: to our weekly picks around the NFL. The Jags back
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Speaker 1: on the practice field again today on this Thursday. A
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Speaker 1: few players out of practice again today Jeremy Parnell, d
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Speaker 1: J Chark, Leon Jacob's out again. Cody Davis out today
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Speaker 1: with an illness. Josh Lambeau added to the injury report,
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Speaker 1: limited today with the right growing issue. That's a concern
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Speaker 1: though it is the Jaguars trying to it back on
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Speaker 1: tracked the final home game coming up this Sunday against
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Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins. Jalen Ramsey was in the locker room
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Speaker 1: today speaking with the media and he had a number
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Speaker 1: of things that he said. He said he deserves to
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Speaker 1: be a Pro Bowl player and he's still playing at
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Speaker 1: a high level. He also said he's ready for an
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Speaker 1: extension after this season, and there was a little emotion
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Speaker 1: on the field when getting blown out for this Jaguars
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Speaker 1: defense last Thursday night. He's tired of losing. He was
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Speaker 1: miked up talking to Todd Wash and explained some of
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Speaker 1: that conversation in the locker room today, especially this year
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Speaker 1: has been pretty tough. Um, you know, just with losing
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Speaker 1: and trying to cope with losing. You don't never wanna
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Speaker 1: I mean people always try to say, like you know
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Speaker 1: this guy or that guy. You know me personally, he
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Speaker 1: doesn't take losing well and you know he has a
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Speaker 1: bad head too. I'm I'm never gonna take losing well. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: when you start taking losing well, that's a that's a
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Speaker 1: guy you don't really want to be honest if you're
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Speaker 1: just okay with losing Jalen Ramsey in the locker room today.
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Speaker 1: It was about a nine to ten minutes s for
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Speaker 1: Jayla Ramsey is one of the longest we've had with
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Speaker 1: him in a little while. You have a lot to
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Speaker 1: say today, guys. You know it's it's uh and uh.
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Speaker 1: He made He said some things too when it when
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Speaker 1: it got to the contract, because that kind of was
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Speaker 1: brought up, and if you read it just from the script,
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Speaker 1: you would be you know, you'd be kind of I don'
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Speaker 1: wanta say disappointed, but you would say why would you
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Speaker 1: even go there? But then when you listen to it
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Speaker 1: and how the interaction goes, I didn't have a problem
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Speaker 1: with it because at first, just reading the script, I
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Speaker 1: was like, why does he even bring up the contract?
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Speaker 1: That there's no need to go there. And I'm sure
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Speaker 1: we'll get to that at some point, or we should
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Speaker 1: if we, if we, if we, if we're not planning
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Speaker 1: on it. But one thing I will sell about about
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Speaker 1: Jalan Ramsey. He's saying that he deserves to go to
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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. And if you look at the numbers
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Speaker 1: that I know there's a little bit of controversy about
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Speaker 1: the numbers that I'm referring to, but that's it's p
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Speaker 1: f F, which is Pro Football Focus, Tony's favorite, and
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Speaker 1: I know Tony and Peter big fans of it on
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Speaker 1: Monday Night, But you know, Tony, I think a lot
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Speaker 1: of times they kind of missed the mark. And I
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Speaker 1: don't want to say that they well sometimes they think
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Speaker 1: on offensive lineman they missed the mark a lot. But
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Speaker 1: I think with skill position guys, I think I think
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Speaker 1: they can be fairly accurate. And with Jentalen Ramsey. Last year,
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Speaker 1: a J Boy and Jalen Ramsey were one and two
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Speaker 1: on PFF Best Cornerbacks in the National Football League, and
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Speaker 1: it was like every week, okay, but they might switch.
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Speaker 1: A J actually had Jaellen for the majority of the
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Speaker 1: season last year. This year, if you look at their performance,
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Speaker 1: a J is twenty one according to PFF and Jalen
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Speaker 1: is uh does that compute into I'm playing as well
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Speaker 1: as last year? I would say that he's playing extremely
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Speaker 1: well at times and then at other times he's not
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Speaker 1: playing well. I'll say this, Jeff, He's still one of
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Speaker 1: the best corners in football and he deserves no no
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Speaker 1: question in my mind that he's one of the best
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Speaker 1: corners in football. But I wouldn't say that he's playing
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Speaker 1: at the level that he was last year. That wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be fair. I would agree with that too. I agree
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Speaker 1: with you on both standpoints. There team All Pro again, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be a first team All Pro. But he's
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Speaker 1: still a great football player, and I would like to
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Speaker 1: see and I you don't expect it every week, but
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Speaker 1: the performance that he had against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and
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Speaker 1: I think that was a performance that was a reaction
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Speaker 1: of the poor performance the weeks ago, the week before
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Speaker 1: against Indianapolis. You'd like to be able to see something
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Speaker 1: closer to that weekend and week out, as opposed to
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Speaker 1: maybe some games that weren't so great. In this past
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Speaker 1: game against the Tennessee Titans, he had an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: come up and make a play on Derrick Henry that
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Speaker 1: resulted in what was a run yard run, and he
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Speaker 1: misses that tackle because he took a bad angle so
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Speaker 1: m I mean, that's not great when you're the result
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Speaker 1: or you're the one that's giving up some big plays
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Speaker 1: and it's not all on him on that play. Dwance
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Speaker 1: smoochs gotta be better at the end position on that
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Speaker 1: long run and he wasn't. Linebacker's got to be better,
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Speaker 1: which the linebackers weren't very good at all. Thursday last week.
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Speaker 1: We've talked about this contract stuff before, though, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have control of his contract for a long time.
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Speaker 1: Moving ahead here, they don't have to under contract right now.
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Speaker 1: There's there's nothing that needs to be They can do
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Speaker 1: the fifth year option. They can franchise him if they
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Speaker 1: need to make the control his fate for essentially seven years,
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Speaker 1: seven years, seven years of a career. On a first
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Speaker 1: round pick, you control him for seven years because you
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Speaker 1: have the contract and then the option, so it essentially
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Speaker 1: gives you five years, and then you have the ability
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Speaker 1: to use the franchise three times, right really twice, I
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Speaker 1: mean twice many three times. It goes to the quarterback level.
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Speaker 1: But if you wanted to use it, you could use
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Speaker 1: it three times, so in fact, it could go to
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Speaker 1: eight years. But nobody's going to use it for the
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Speaker 1: eighth year because it's so expensive unless it's I mean,
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Speaker 1: if if you were at Aaron Donald, would you have
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Speaker 1: paid him what would have been the third franchise use?
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Speaker 1: I mean Khalil Matt. I mean, those are type of
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Speaker 1: numbers that we're talking about right well, but you gotta
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Speaker 1: look through three or four years down the road, Jeff.
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Speaker 1: You're looking at even I mean just this year. If
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Speaker 1: they were in that position this year, and that's how
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Speaker 1: the only way that maybe let's say that the Chicago
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Speaker 1: Bears could pay them or keep them, or the only
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Speaker 1: way that the Rams could keep Aaron Donald, would they
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Speaker 1: do that? They might? I mean, so there might be
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Speaker 1: a few players that you would end up keeping them
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Speaker 1: for eight years. I'll say this, if they and I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying they should or shouldn't it this is an
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Speaker 1: off season or going to save some of the mature
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Speaker 1: for the off season because we have a lot of
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Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. But if the off season has
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Speaker 1: already started, Tony, but you know what I mean, I
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Speaker 1: know what you mean, but it has started. I don't
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Speaker 1: want I don't want to burn all the good materials, Jeff.
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Speaker 1: Uh Uh. If they don't get a contract done with him.
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Speaker 1: I bet you, I bet you anything he is not
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Speaker 1: at training camp next year, it will hold up this
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Speaker 1: coming year. Yep, he'll do the same thing Aaron Donald
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Speaker 1: did before his fourth year, held out and then I'll
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Speaker 1: hold out again and if he doesn't have one his
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Speaker 1: fifth year, same agent. I don't know. I'm just saying
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Speaker 1: that's the I mean. I'll say this, Jeff, if you
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Speaker 1: were a premier player at a premier position, rush of
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Speaker 1: the quarterback, protect the quarterback, cover wide receivers, or a quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Those are the four that I mean premiere positions, but
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Speaker 1: the corner especially. And you just saw what happened with
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Speaker 1: the two guys who were at the top of their
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Speaker 1: level that held out and the deals they got earlier
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Speaker 1: than they needed to get. What would you do? I hear,
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Speaker 1: I hear you. But Aaron Donald did well. Aaron Aaron
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Speaker 1: did a two years in a row, and it didn't
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Speaker 1: work the first year, and it did it worked the
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Speaker 1: second year because they were approaching the deadline, so to speak,
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Speaker 1: well the deadline. Same thing. Same same thing with Khalil Mack.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they were so I think I think if
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Speaker 1: Jalen did it not this year coming up or if
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Speaker 1: I was jail this year coming up wouldn't make sense,
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Speaker 1: But the following year absolutely I could understand. Why why
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Speaker 1: do you say it didn't work out for Aaron Donald,
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Speaker 1: Well it didn't. The change didn't happen last year, and
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Speaker 1: it happened, but kept his body fresh, missed all camp,
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Speaker 1: didn't have to do anything. I'm okay. I'm just saying
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Speaker 1: it would not surprise me based on recent history of
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Speaker 1: looking at guys that had success because of holding out,
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Speaker 1: that you wouldn't see him hold out. Yeah, I wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if that happened. I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: in that conversation of Yeah, defense, they've got a bit
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Speaker 1: of a challenge this week. Josh Johnson may not be
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Speaker 1: the challenge himself, but he hasn't been on the field lately.
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Speaker 1: You don't really know what to look at. And defensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator Todd wash Though might have a little in side
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Speaker 1: of what to prepare for. We've actually went back found
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Speaker 1: some tape for me. He was in Tampa, you know. Uh,
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Speaker 1: fortunately I was there when we drafted him. Um. Great
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Speaker 1: kid obviously, UM, very good athlete, and you can see
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Speaker 1: that through all the years that he's been in the league,
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Speaker 1: and then even last week. Um, once he goes through
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Speaker 1: his progression, obviously he's looking to run, so we've got
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Speaker 1: to do a good job of keeping him into pocket.
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Speaker 1: But he's a quality quarterback. Um that has great mobility. Yeah, Um,
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Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks have been a bit of an issue, Tony.
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Speaker 1: I would slow Toddwalsh down there a little bit. He's
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Speaker 1: not a great quarterback. With he was on the street
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Speaker 1: thanks a great quarterback, he would have been in the
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Speaker 1: National Football League for a while. He's the fifth choice
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Speaker 1: of uh yeah, fifth, the fourth fourth for the Redskins.
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Speaker 1: So no, don't tell me he's great. He's not great.
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Speaker 1: He has he has some I will say and agree
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Speaker 1: with him, and that he has mobility, and he has
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Speaker 1: he has very good mobile and put on display last
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Speaker 1: week against the Giants. Well and yeah, and and I
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Speaker 1: think that's part of the thing where you sit back
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Speaker 1: and you kind of scratch your head a little bit,
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Speaker 1: is that he was inserted when the game was forty
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Speaker 1: to nothing and the guy from USC Mark Sanchez, obviously
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Speaker 1: was doing a very poor job, and so they take
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Speaker 1: him out and insert Josh Johnson, and he's able to
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Speaker 1: have success. Well, by that time, what kind of a
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Speaker 1: defense or the Giants playing its football at that point, Jeff.
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Speaker 1: But here's the surprising thing that I was shocked at, Tony.
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Speaker 1: When you watch the film, you'll see it. It's a
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Speaker 1: second and twelve, the score is forty to eight, and
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Speaker 1: the Giants are playing, and it's a second and twelve
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Speaker 1: and the Giants are playing, are sending a blitz and
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Speaker 1: are playing man behind it, and that's where the long
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Speaker 1: touchdown took crowd or of seventy nine yards. That's how
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Speaker 1: it happened. Saven. Wait a minute, it's forty eight second
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Speaker 1: and twelve and you're sending a blitz, single high safety,
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Speaker 1: man coverage. You're going basically, what are you doing? What
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Speaker 1: are you doing? Try something? It doesn't really matters, gonna
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Speaker 1: you know what? This is a blitz I've wanted to see.
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Speaker 1: Now it's like preseason. Let me see what it's get
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Speaker 1: it on film. But but I will say that when
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Speaker 1: you when you watch Josh Johnson, and one thing that
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Speaker 1: is very clear, R P O S, read options, all
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff is all on the table. He
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Speaker 1: scored on an eight yard scramble that was a dropback
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Speaker 1: past play and then he just created something on his own.
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Speaker 1: Those are the type of things that the defense has
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Speaker 1: to be prepared for, no question, and you should not
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Speaker 1: lose the Josh Johnson. That's what to Shaun Gibson said
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Speaker 1: yesterday on on this show on Jaguars dot Com. That
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Speaker 1: can't be losing to Josh Johnson. No, you can't. Can't
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Speaker 1: do it now. The problem, the bigger question, guys is
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Speaker 1: it's not the defense. I know they have a terrible
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Speaker 1: performance in to see how many points is this offense
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Speaker 1: gonna be all the score? Yeah, let's hear from Scott Milanovitch.
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Speaker 1: He spoke with the media today and says the quarterback
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Speaker 1: may have been a little more comfortable last week with
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Speaker 1: another week of work. Yeah. I thought Cody looked a
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Speaker 1: lot more comfortable in the pocket. Um. I thought he
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Speaker 1: took more chances down the field, pushing it down the field,
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Speaker 1: making good throws. Um, just a better command. You know.
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Speaker 1: The second week, the first week stuff hadn't played two
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Speaker 1: or three years really as a starter, found a way
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Speaker 1: to get a win, and then last week I thought
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Speaker 1: he made improvement. We're looking for that same improvement again
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Speaker 1: one more week. Yeah, can the offense moved the ball
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Speaker 1: first consistently and get points on the board. Um, well,
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Speaker 1: maybe not in that order. Either way. You gotta do
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Speaker 1: something on offense. They haven't done it the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks. Yeah, how about just score points. I don't
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Speaker 1: care what else you do. You gotta score some points.
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Speaker 1: Six fifteen points in two weeks. One touchdown and and
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Speaker 1: it was a struggle to get that one touchdown. It
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Speaker 1: was later in the game when it was already coming
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Speaker 1: and it was a game that was it was over.
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Speaker 1: I will say this, listen to Scott Milanovich. I like
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Speaker 1: his kind of calm, cool demeanor there when when being
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Speaker 1: asked the question and given a I thought a very
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Speaker 1: proper answer, And how he talked about Cody Kusser the
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Speaker 1: first week. From the from the first to the second week,
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Speaker 1: he looked more comfortable in the pocket. I think Tony
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Speaker 1: the first week, we made multiple observations that he was
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Speaker 1: abandoning a good pocket and some of those sacks were
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Speaker 1: on him. This past week, I didn't think that he
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Speaker 1: did that as much. I thought the offensive line did
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Speaker 1: not play nearly as well and he didn't have as
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Speaker 1: much time as that he had the week before, so
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Speaker 1: he did get better, but bet there's a relative term here, okay.
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Speaker 1: And so in other words, if his performance at well
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Speaker 1: against Indianapolis at home was a let's call it a
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Speaker 1: three out of Tony, what would you call the performance
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Speaker 1: at Tennessee four point five? And see, I'd go like
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Speaker 1: maybe a three point eight, three point nine. Not even
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Speaker 1: fooled you there, But it is better, better, better, but
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Speaker 1: still leave it a lot to be desired. But that
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Speaker 1: it's kind of it's what it is right now. I
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Speaker 1: agree with what Jeff saying. I mean, it's an offensive scored.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's put this in perspective and in a league
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Speaker 1: where points are up and teams are scoring a record
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Speaker 1: paces and the rules are set up for passing offense
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Speaker 1: and the score points because that's what the league wants,
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Speaker 1: because that's what fans want. Frankly, this offense has scored
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Speaker 1: fifteen points in two weeks. That is in describe, it's
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Speaker 1: like indescribed. I don't even know what words to use
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Speaker 1: of how much of a struggle that is. Yeah, this
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Speaker 1: day and age, I mean, it's it's nuts. It was.
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Speaker 1: It was not very good. And you know it wasn't
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Speaker 1: just him either. There were I will say he did.
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Speaker 1: There were a few throws that you saw. It's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: I was getting to that, and I had mentioned how
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Speaker 1: the offensive line I didn't think played as well at
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Speaker 1: Tennessee as they did at home against Indianapolis. Well, let's
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Speaker 1: go to the wide receiver group. Dantemon Crief. I mean,
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Speaker 1: where's even what I mean the deep ball that that
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Speaker 1: wasn't good. They had another one it was right, but
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Speaker 1: you gotta catch the ball. I mean it was almost
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Speaker 1: like it looked uncoordinated to where he didn't have even
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Speaker 1: the athleticism to have an opportunity at making the ball.
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Speaker 1: And this is the one we're looking at. Great catch
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Speaker 1: by Keeling, by the way, who kind of got back
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Speaker 1: on the map, so to speak, Thursday night. Okay, he
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Speaker 1: needed that. Uh, but Dante mont Crief, he had one
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Speaker 1: back shoulder throw he wasn't even looking, didn't even see
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Speaker 1: that it was a back shoulder throw. And then on
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Speaker 1: the one go route that I thought was a very
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Speaker 1: well thrown ball by Cody Kessler, Dante Montcrief doesn't make
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19:32
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19:36
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Speaker 1: Field j P. Shadwick, Jeff Logman. Tony was Sally is
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Speaker 1: in Kansas to get a hotel room, getting ready for
24:01
Speaker 1: Thursday night football and Tony, we're told you have a
24:04
Speaker 1: new shirt. Is that accurate? Tony is not with us
24:10
Speaker 1: here right here, a new shirt, a shirt on. I'll
24:15
Speaker 1: look at that. Wow, you know that's much better. That's
24:18
Speaker 1: much much better. Well, I mean I was come on,
24:20
Speaker 1: I was casual. It's casual. I went to barbecue today
24:23
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I needed my barbecue shirt on. Went
24:25
Speaker 1: to Arthur Bryant's. Yeah, good place. Did you get? It
24:29
Speaker 1: was outstanding on the diet, Well I was until that meal.
24:34
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not coming to Kansas I'm not coming
24:35
Speaker 1: to Kansas City without eating a barbecue. I was told.
24:38
Speaker 1: I was told the other night that Tony has dropped
24:40
Speaker 1: like twenty five pounds. That act looking good. Look at
24:43
Speaker 1: you good? Looking good. Yeah, it's all relative. I guess
24:50
Speaker 1: right eight, Yes, I guess you think good. As My
24:57
Speaker 1: wife's is good. She actually is here with me. So
25:02
Speaker 1: she wanted to go get barbecause she's never been to
25:03
Speaker 1: Kansas City before. So I took her to Arthur Bryant.
25:06
Speaker 1: Very nice, good place to start in Kansas City. Let's
25:09
Speaker 1: get the crossfire and start off with Jalen Ramsey talking
25:12
Speaker 1: about his contract and wanting an extension. Here's what he
25:16
Speaker 1: had to say today in the locker room. Like I said,
25:19
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let my agent and uh in the front
25:21
Speaker 1: office handle that. But um, you know, after what came
25:27
Speaker 1: out what was it five weeks ago or haven't weeks ago?
25:30
Speaker 1: It was, Um yeah, I'm feeling like, uh yeah, if y'all,
25:37
Speaker 1: if y'all serious about that not being real, then I
25:40
Speaker 1: need to y'all need to make it happen. And if not,
25:44
Speaker 1: then maybe what came out five weeks ago it was
25:46
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Well, we'll see. But I'm just gonna keep
25:49
Speaker 1: in joining every day. Man, I'm blessed. Let them handle it.
25:53
Speaker 1: There's not Jalen Ramsey today in the locker room. Would
25:55
Speaker 1: you extend him this offseason? Or no? Guys? So, first
25:59
Speaker 1: of all, cats a question before I answer that did
26:01
Speaker 1: he bring this up or was it brought up? It
26:03
Speaker 1: was asked it. I was asked, Yes, it was brought
26:06
Speaker 1: up to him. That's correct. I think he answered the
26:09
Speaker 1: question perfectly then. By the way, and I just want
26:12
Speaker 1: to make that was the second time that he was
26:15
Speaker 1: asked that, and he said that's because that's why he's
26:17
Speaker 1: going like I said, because the first time he said, look,
26:20
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let my agent and the front office handle
26:22
Speaker 1: that and stopped it. Right there. So then it was
26:25
Speaker 1: asked again, and that's where he goes. Like I said,
26:29
Speaker 1: and that's why he expanded a little bit beyond I'm
26:31
Speaker 1: gonna let the front office and my agent handle that.
26:34
Speaker 1: So you like his answer, Tony, I do. I think
26:36
Speaker 1: it was very professional. I thought it was straightforward. If
26:38
Speaker 1: he's right, Obviously, every player wants to get paid what
26:42
Speaker 1: they feel like they're deserved. He's one of the best
26:44
Speaker 1: corners in the league. He's still on his rookie contact track,
26:47
Speaker 1: so I think he made three point eight million this year.
26:49
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna make over for something next year. And
26:53
Speaker 1: he's looking at what corners the best corners in the
26:55
Speaker 1: league make, which is thirteen fourteen million dollars a year,
26:58
Speaker 1: maybe more fifteen, And so he's saying, yeah, I want
27:02
Speaker 1: to get paid. Would I pay him? No, I would
27:04
Speaker 1: not not yet I don't have to. I have other issues.
27:09
Speaker 1: I got to manage the cap. Already have calf issues
27:11
Speaker 1: going in next year. I go to make a number
27:13
Speaker 1: of cuts. Um, I take care of that first, and
27:17
Speaker 1: I after the draft and I get everything signed, I
27:20
Speaker 1: can then look at it. So maybe late in the
27:22
Speaker 1: off season or during the season, I do something but
27:25
Speaker 1: it's not a priority to me. Yeah, it's not time
27:27
Speaker 1: yet for that. Oh you you're gonna have some issues.
27:31
Speaker 1: It's not a great place. No, no, no other issues.
27:34
Speaker 1: And here's here's the thing. You want to see Jalen
27:37
Speaker 1: take that next step. You want to see him take.
27:40
Speaker 1: When I say take the next step, I'm talking about
27:43
Speaker 1: continue to be a great player, to show consistently that
27:46
Speaker 1: he's a great player, which for the most part he's
27:48
Speaker 1: done that, but also to take that next step towards
27:52
Speaker 1: the leadership. And because you know what, here's here's the reality.
27:55
Speaker 1: If he takes that next step, he might be worth
27:58
Speaker 1: more then when he would be if he was paid
28:02
Speaker 1: right now, I mean that that's the reality. So not yet,
28:07
Speaker 1: but in time, all right, next topic here. Leonard Fournette
28:10
Speaker 1: caught on a fan video in Nashville yelling at fans
28:13
Speaker 1: in Tennessee marone earlier this week. Was asked about it
28:16
Speaker 1: and said for Nette told him it was a racial
28:18
Speaker 1: slur from the stands. For Nette told some of the
28:21
Speaker 1: media today, including Jeane for Nette of The Times Union,
28:23
Speaker 1: that it's in the past, wanting to move on. Is
28:25
Speaker 1: this the end of the story? Is this a bigger deal?
28:27
Speaker 1: Than we think. It might not be the end of
28:29
Speaker 1: the story according to the league. You know, maybe the
28:32
Speaker 1: league wants to further investigate it so it might not
28:36
Speaker 1: be a dead issue, and maybe they try to find
28:39
Speaker 1: out who the fan or fans were in Tennessee and
28:43
Speaker 1: go from there. But I will say this and that
28:47
Speaker 1: for Net could have handled it much better. And I
28:50
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier in the week and said that, oh,
28:54
Speaker 1: as a as a pro and it's never okay for
28:57
Speaker 1: anybody to use a racial slur to a player on
28:59
Speaker 1: the field. It's just it's uncalled for and it's improper.
29:03
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. You have your own team personnel, security,
29:08
Speaker 1: you have stadium security, tell them and let them handle it.
29:12
Speaker 1: Don't ever get involved as a player bantering back and
29:16
Speaker 1: forth with someone behind the bench. You just don't do that,
29:19
Speaker 1: because you know what's gonna happen now, every fan and
29:23
Speaker 1: every city that jack the Jacksonville Jaguars go to, they're
29:28
Speaker 1: gonna try to call out Leonard four Nette and try
29:30
Speaker 1: to engage him from behind the bench because of this
29:35
Speaker 1: video that's out now and because of the way that
29:37
Speaker 1: he handled it, and that's not good going forward. Do
29:43
Speaker 1: you think Tony Hey before I got answered the question,
29:46
Speaker 1: we're looking those goal line stands by the Tennessee Titans. Yes,
29:50
Speaker 1: stopped the league ever come out and did the league
29:54
Speaker 1: ever come out and say they messed up the spot?
29:56
Speaker 1: Not that we know of. Okay, Um, because the spot
30:00
Speaker 1: was wrong. Do you look at the about about a
30:03
Speaker 1: half about a half of year, three quarters of the
30:05
Speaker 1: yard still difference almost the yard, big difference we can
30:10
Speaker 1: see right here. I mean it doesn't matter anyways. Uh
30:15
Speaker 1: what do I think? Um? I don't. I didn't see
30:22
Speaker 1: the video of what he was yelling back up into
30:24
Speaker 1: the stands. Obviously there's nothing There's no place for racial slurs, uh, anywhere,
30:31
Speaker 1: whether it's a stadium or anywhere else. Um, I don't
30:37
Speaker 1: think it's epic. I mean, the racial slurs is a
30:39
Speaker 1: big deal. But players yelling back and forth between fans already.
30:46
Speaker 1: It happened all the time when we were playing, but
30:49
Speaker 1: there was no video. That's the difference here. And so
30:53
Speaker 1: because there's video, all this takes a much bigger deal.
30:58
Speaker 1: And because there's siteside teams and stuff like that to
31:01
Speaker 1: promote these videos, it becomes a big deal. Um, the
31:05
Speaker 1: racial slur is a big deal. If that is accurate,
31:08
Speaker 1: If someone in that stands was using racial slurs towards anybody,
31:13
Speaker 1: then it's a problem. Leonard responding is a problem, like
31:19
Speaker 1: Jeff said, now because everyone else would do it, because
31:21
Speaker 1: it was caught on video and they saw that they
31:24
Speaker 1: could get under his skin. Um, and so he should
31:27
Speaker 1: expect more of that. But to act like this has
31:30
Speaker 1: not happened for since the beginning of time of players
31:34
Speaker 1: and fans interacting back and forth, I think is a
31:37
Speaker 1: little bit ridiculous. It has happened, But I think the
31:41
Speaker 1: one thing, I mean, he was it was a law.
31:43
Speaker 1: It was quite a while that this bannering back and
31:46
Speaker 1: forth was going on. And then he also, Leonard approached
31:49
Speaker 1: the stands, and that's a known though. Don't approach the stands,
31:54
Speaker 1: don't encourage, don't engage. If that in fact was said, no,
32:00
Speaker 1: to find somebody that was there, let them handle it.
32:03
Speaker 1: So in my opinion, well, I mean, we played the Redskins,
32:07
Speaker 1: uh back in their late nineties, and this fan was
32:11
Speaker 1: getting after me, and I made the mistake, I guess
32:14
Speaker 1: of going back and saying something. He went back and
32:16
Speaker 1: forth like ten minutes to the in the end. In
32:19
Speaker 1: the end he was threatening me that he's gonna meet
32:21
Speaker 1: me afterwards and shoot me and kill me. And he
32:25
Speaker 1: actually because like the people around him at that point,
32:28
Speaker 1: and he had too much of drink and he was
32:30
Speaker 1: obviously intoxicated. But the people around him were like, well,
32:32
Speaker 1: wait a second, you crossed the line. It was like
32:35
Speaker 1: friendly banter back and forth, and now you're you're gonna
32:38
Speaker 1: murder this person, and they actually came down. I never
32:41
Speaker 1: said anything. I was just laughing. I was playing the game.
32:44
Speaker 1: Was it was on a series. But uh, stadium security
32:48
Speaker 1: came down and removed him from the stands and so.
32:54
Speaker 1: But my point of saying that is, now that's different.
32:56
Speaker 1: There was nothing racially. The guy was drunk, I mean
32:59
Speaker 1: he was hard us. Uh, there was no racial comments.
33:02
Speaker 1: There was a bad a lot of bad words. They
33:04
Speaker 1: acted like they knew my mother and we're saying things
33:06
Speaker 1: about my mother. Um. But besides that, you know, but
33:10
Speaker 1: that's happened. As a player, you gonna be smart. I
33:14
Speaker 1: made the mistake of you know, they're gonna say stuff,
33:17
Speaker 1: just don't turn around say anything back, and it goes
33:19
Speaker 1: away pretty But but here here's I think the difference,
33:21
Speaker 1: and it's an obvious difference. Tony. Uh, two weeks before,
33:27
Speaker 1: you didn't put a helmet on when you are not
33:29
Speaker 1: we're not on the field of play and run across
33:31
Speaker 1: the field and engage in a fight and then get
33:34
Speaker 1: ejected and then suspended by the league. So all of
33:37
Speaker 1: that combined, it looks. It looks bad. Even if somebody
33:41
Speaker 1: said what Leonard Fournett says, they said, it's just it's
33:45
Speaker 1: a it's a bad reaction. It's it's it's a bad look.
33:48
Speaker 1: It's a great point, Jeff, it's the it's the cumulation
33:51
Speaker 1: of a bunch of different things. Let's move along here.
33:54
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, running back for the Washington Redskins, is eleventh
33:59
Speaker 1: season in the league. What kind of day does a
34:01
Speaker 1: p have on Sunday? Guys, He's gonna get the ball
34:05
Speaker 1: a bunch, especially with Josh Johnson there and get ready
34:08
Speaker 1: for the zone reads with him. Uh. He obviously still speed.
34:11
Speaker 1: He took one yards I'm sorry, that's right, and still
34:19
Speaker 1: didn't get yards in the game. Yeah, he had one
34:22
Speaker 1: one carry for ninety and like the next eight carries
34:24
Speaker 1: for nine yards. I think it was like that. Um,
34:27
Speaker 1: he could still run. He does not have the change
34:31
Speaker 1: of direction he once did. Um, he's still good back.
34:35
Speaker 1: They're gonna give it to him. You better, he better
34:36
Speaker 1: be ready for him, and you better have good gap control. Otherwise,
34:40
Speaker 1: as we can see on Jaguars dot Com, he will
34:42
Speaker 1: expose you. He's still got pretty decent speed. His yards
34:46
Speaker 1: after contact is actually right up there amongst his best
34:51
Speaker 1: in his career. But the offensive line issues that are
34:55
Speaker 1: are up front should should let me to use the
34:58
Speaker 1: word should should prohibit any success that he were to have.
35:02
Speaker 1: I mean, heck, the Washington Redskins or getting ready to
35:05
Speaker 1: play what like the third or fourth right guard. They've
35:10
Speaker 1: had two or three guys in at left guard this
35:13
Speaker 1: past week. They made some changes where they put backup
35:16
Speaker 1: tackles in it guards and they were absolutely terrible. So
35:19
Speaker 1: with the issues that they have going on up front,
35:23
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson should not come anywhere close to surpassing Eric Dickerson,
35:28
Speaker 1: which he is only a hundred and twelve yards away
35:30
Speaker 1: from passing him up and moving up to eighth all
35:33
Speaker 1: time on the rushing list, which is incredible if he
35:38
Speaker 1: gets a major problem, but I mean it is incredible.
35:42
Speaker 1: He's a hundred twelve yards away from surpassing Eric dick
35:45
Speaker 1: Dickerson for eighth all time. He needs one touchdown to
35:50
Speaker 1: surpass Jim Brown for fifth all time for touchdowns. He
35:53
Speaker 1: has a hundred and six Right now, that's incredible. I mean,
35:56
Speaker 1: you're talking about being in the mentioned in the same
36:00
Speaker 1: sentence of Jim Brown and Eric Dickerson. I mean, Adrian
36:03
Speaker 1: Peterson has had a tremendous career and what he was
36:07
Speaker 1: able to do coming back from the a c L
36:09
Speaker 1: injury showed that this guy physically is just not like
36:13
Speaker 1: most people. He's not He's not normal. And there's another
36:17
Speaker 1: guy on the Redskins offense that is not normal, and
36:19
Speaker 1: that's Vernon Davis the tight end. Talking about a guy
36:23
Speaker 1: in his thirteenth year that is still playing well, has
36:28
Speaker 1: like three point eight percent body fat, still runs a
36:32
Speaker 1: forty and maybe the high four fours now, and when
36:35
Speaker 1: he came out of college, which is Maryland years ago,
36:37
Speaker 1: I think he was in the low four fours. I mean,
36:40
Speaker 1: kee're talking about two absolute freaks physically. For the Redskins,
36:44
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Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Let's think a Jaguars m v
37:01
Speaker 1: P for this game. I'll started off today because I can.
37:05
Speaker 1: Miles Jack is mine. Um, because of that running back
37:09
Speaker 1: you just saw there, it'd be nice to slow him down.
37:12
Speaker 1: And uh, he's obviously the guy who makes the calls
37:16
Speaker 1: in the huddle and get the right in the right place.
37:18
Speaker 1: A lot of new faces out there, by the way,
37:19
Speaker 1: a lot of younger faces getting some time on defense.
37:22
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison in the back, you got Tavid Bryan up front.
37:24
Speaker 1: Once smooths on the field a lot. Now Miles Jack
37:28
Speaker 1: has to get a kind of get him in the
37:29
Speaker 1: right place sometimes, and especially against the guy like a
37:32
Speaker 1: P So for me, Miles Jack, why not logs give
37:36
Speaker 1: us yours? The guy who has been the most consistent
37:41
Speaker 1: in the run game has had I think a strong
37:43
Speaker 1: year in the passing game as well, which is Clay's Campbell.
37:47
Speaker 1: He's the number one edge defender in the National Football
37:50
Speaker 1: League as far as the edge run defender. And and
37:54
Speaker 1: that's from PFF, and I backed it up with what
37:58
Speaker 1: I call the eye test. I don't have the I
38:03
Speaker 1: don't know the technology that they do, but my technology
38:06
Speaker 1: tells me that Clay's Campbell is a fine football player,
38:09
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have some sub rushes as an interior
38:12
Speaker 1: pass rusher against these backup guards and have an opportunity
38:16
Speaker 1: to limit the mobility of Josh Johnson. And I think
38:19
Speaker 1: Klais Campbell has a big game. All right, tell me
38:21
Speaker 1: what's yours? J P. Shadrick. I chose you. Thanks, I'm
38:26
Speaker 1: gonna vote. You didn't build the graph, No no, JF
38:32
Speaker 1: asked me this morning. I said, and the reason I mean,
38:34
Speaker 1: I was obviously joking, but you know, you look at
38:37
Speaker 1: this whole M v P. This is a team that
38:39
Speaker 1: has I'm not gonna pick one, and the reason is
38:42
Speaker 1: is because it's a team that needs to come out
38:44
Speaker 1: and play good football each unit, and if they do that,
38:47
Speaker 1: they should easily win this game. Or they should maybe
38:51
Speaker 1: not easily easily easily, but I'm saying, Jeff, it should
38:54
Speaker 1: be a comfortable win in the fourth quarter in the
38:57
Speaker 1: sense of this defense needs to come out of a
39:00
Speaker 1: unit and play the way with energy and passion that
39:02
Speaker 1: we've seen against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and we saw against
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Speaker 1: Indiapple's Colts, is that the Redskins are going to score
39:09
Speaker 1: for very little. We need to see an offense against
39:13
Speaker 1: a defense that has had some very good moments this
39:16
Speaker 1: year in the Redskins to come out and run the
39:19
Speaker 1: ball and play action pass and take some shots outside
39:23
Speaker 1: and go put up seventeen to twenty points and win
39:26
Speaker 1: a seven, twenty to ten football game. But it's about
39:32
Speaker 1: all I want to see is f effort and execution.
39:34
Speaker 1: That's all I want to see this week. If you're
39:36
Speaker 1: looking at this from from the national perspective, the Redskins
39:40
Speaker 1: watched six and three and then lost the last four
39:43
Speaker 1: and are now on their fourth quarterback. The Jaguars lost
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Speaker 1: eight of their last nine. Is that right? And then
39:51
Speaker 1: looking at at each team's last game, they got crushed
39:55
Speaker 1: by the Giants forties sixteen. The Jaguars got crushed by
40:00
Speaker 1: the Titans thirty to nine. Is there entering any interest
40:05
Speaker 1: in this game outside of Jacksonville or Washington d C.
40:11
Speaker 1: No none, No none. By the way, the it's the
40:14
Speaker 1: lowest over under in the league at thirty six is
40:18
Speaker 1: the number this week. It's the lowest twenty twelve in
40:20
Speaker 1: the entire Nationals. What is what's the overrunner to points
40:24
Speaker 1: in the game? Yeah, I take the under. That's not
40:27
Speaker 1: looking good right now. Um that's the way it is.
40:30
Speaker 1: There's the m v P picks and and thank you
40:31
Speaker 1: for the vote, Tony. I appreciate that effort and execution
40:35
Speaker 1: will come in the pregame show at least on Sunday.
40:39
Speaker 1: UH weekly picks results from a couple of weeks, and
40:41
Speaker 1: we didn't have a show last week, so these are
40:43
Speaker 1: from week thirteen. Basellian logging both four and one two
40:46
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I did not fare so well two and three,
40:50
Speaker 1: but Sell he's leading the way by a few games now,
40:52
Speaker 1: his leaders at forty six and twenty one to forty
40:55
Speaker 1: two and twenty five and forty one and twenty six,
40:57
Speaker 1: which is all that matters. That I'm ahead of you.
41:00
Speaker 1: Not for long, my friend, because these pics are coming. Joe,
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Speaker 1: get us started, will you before we get wrong? Tony.
41:07
Speaker 1: You can see the show right now. Tilt your camera down.
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Speaker 1: Just you look like a head, just not like Pete,
41:16
Speaker 1: like Pete the other day when you look like the
41:18
Speaker 1: guy from UH what shows that tul Time or Wilson
41:27
Speaker 1: Game of the week is your game? Tony got the
41:31
Speaker 1: Chargers in the Chiefs. Good football game, right, Yeah, that's
41:35
Speaker 1: a great football game. I mean, the Chiefs have won
41:39
Speaker 1: nine straight in this series, and they've won like twenty
41:42
Speaker 1: seven in the a f C West as of later
41:47
Speaker 1: twenty one, some crazy stat um. But they're beat up.
41:54
Speaker 1: I'm like, no Spencer where obviously no Kareem Hunt, no
41:56
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. Uh tight kill is uh, you know, questionable
42:01
Speaker 1: going into the game. But they do have Patrick Mahomes,
42:04
Speaker 1: but they have a defense it's not very good. I
42:06
Speaker 1: think the Chargers get in there and break the nine
42:08
Speaker 1: game losing streak, can find a way to get a win.
42:11
Speaker 1: It's a it's an uphill battle because Thursday Night. Eleven
42:14
Speaker 1: of the fourteen Thursday Night games so far this year
42:16
Speaker 1: been won by the home team. So I'm gonna go
42:19
Speaker 1: on out on the limb and uh go from the Chargers.
42:23
Speaker 1: It's not that much of a limb. I mean, that's
42:24
Speaker 1: that's pretty good picked there. Sell me. Look, you can
42:26
Speaker 1: make an argument either way. I'm I'm sticking with the
42:28
Speaker 1: home team and Patrick Mahomes and even though he has
42:31
Speaker 1: the injuries to the wide receiver group, and missing a
42:34
Speaker 1: running back who was cut because of all kinds of
42:39
Speaker 1: off the field issues. I'm gonna stick with the kan
42:41
Speaker 1: City Chief and Mahomes finding his tight end group. Why not.
42:45
Speaker 1: He's got good tight ends. Now. It's not just Kelsey
42:47
Speaker 1: that's a good player. The other ones are good too. Now. Yeah,
42:50
Speaker 1: he's making crazy off script plays and stuff to Mahomes
42:54
Speaker 1: is fantastic. That's why I'm going with the Kansas City Chief.
42:56
Speaker 1: Sent Arrowhead tonight on Thursday Night Football, Joe. Earlier in
43:00
Speaker 1: the year, you wanted to have thought this game would
43:01
Speaker 1: have been so tough to pick Brown's at Broncos. Well,
43:05
Speaker 1: this is a mile high, of course, and the Browns
43:08
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're a fun team to watch,
43:11
Speaker 1: fun team to watch. They've got a quarterback playing fantastic.
43:13
Speaker 1: Ever since they got rid of the offensive coordinator and
43:16
Speaker 1: head coach that were seemingly butting heads throughout the preseason
43:22
Speaker 1: and during the regular season, Baker Mayfield has been one
43:24
Speaker 1: of the top ready quarterbacks in the National Football League.
43:27
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna get to win this at Denver.
43:30
Speaker 1: Is It's right, I'm still picking them, taking him on
43:32
Speaker 1: the road. I'm taking them, Yeah, I'm going I'm going
43:36
Speaker 1: to Broncos into Um. Both teams have outside shots at
43:45
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Still, it should be a good foot Both
43:47
Speaker 1: teams are going to be looking for a head coach
43:49
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. I'm not sure advanced
43:55
Speaker 1: Joseph I would have said yes for sure a couple
43:57
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Jeff, I think it's kind of now
44:01
Speaker 1: if they can find a way to win the next
44:03
Speaker 1: three and get to nine and seven, which they're all
44:05
Speaker 1: winnable games for him outside the last one is tough
44:08
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. UM, I think he saves his job.
44:12
Speaker 1: What happens when Baker Mayfield brings the intensity, it could
44:17
Speaker 1: be over exactly. That game is Saturday at night. By
44:20
Speaker 1: the way, this is the next couple of weekends. There
44:21
Speaker 1: are a couple of Saturday games. Joe, Cowboys can all
44:25
Speaker 1: but stick a fork in the NFC East with a
44:27
Speaker 1: win in Indeed, do they do it? I say yes?
44:30
Speaker 1: Why not? How about them? Cowboys? Cowboys haven't played, have
44:33
Speaker 1: not played as good on the road as they do
44:35
Speaker 1: at home, obviously, but it's it's a drastic difference. And
44:39
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck has played well at home. He's been playing
44:42
Speaker 1: well of late he Uh, what was it? What was
44:46
Speaker 1: the win that he had last week? Texans? The Texans.
44:51
Speaker 1: I mean he's talked about a big win now, big
44:53
Speaker 1: big win against a team that's been on a roll,
44:56
Speaker 1: you know, week five, weeks six of the season, weeks
45:00
Speaker 1: having No one would have thought this would be a
45:01
Speaker 1: big game. Now you have both teams playing really good football,
45:04
Speaker 1: both teams uh fighting for I mean Dallas Cowboys have
45:08
Speaker 1: real great chance of making the playoffs, obviously winning the division,
45:12
Speaker 1: the culture right in the hunt for the wild card.
45:15
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a great football game. I like
45:17
Speaker 1: the Colts. It was a tough one for me to
45:19
Speaker 1: pick them because I like that Cowboys defense a lot.
45:21
Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons why I'm picking
45:23
Speaker 1: the Colts is they have done a really good job
45:27
Speaker 1: stopping the run lately. The Colts have their front with
45:32
Speaker 1: with Marcus Hunt going into the inside. Uh, that defense
45:36
Speaker 1: has gotten much better since the beginning of year. Credited
45:39
Speaker 1: to their players and credit to their coaches. All Right, Joe,
45:43
Speaker 1: Titans have the same record of the as the Colts.
45:45
Speaker 1: They're going to Jersey to play the Giants. Yeah, I'm
45:48
Speaker 1: gonna stick with the Titans on this one. To keep
45:51
Speaker 1: that thing tight. This is where I get another game
45:54
Speaker 1: on you, j I'm taking the Giants. I'm taking the
45:57
Speaker 1: Giants at home. The Tennessee Titans Arejacqueline Hide. They're up
46:01
Speaker 1: and down. And they were up Thursday night obviously against
46:05
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I think they're down against the Giants. Eli
46:08
Speaker 1: Manning just put up forty on the Redskins. He's on
46:11
Speaker 1: a roll. I actually can't remember who I picked. You
46:16
Speaker 1: picked the Titans. Okay, it was because it was a
46:19
Speaker 1: tough one for me. I couldn't remember. That is a
46:22
Speaker 1: tough one. But and and I can. I can hear
46:24
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders saying, I believe any lie. I believe any lie.
46:31
Speaker 1: I don't. But I think that Sae Kwon Barkley ends
46:35
Speaker 1: up having a heck of a night. He is so
46:38
Speaker 1: good or day night. He is amazing, good player, He's
46:42
Speaker 1: a great player, good player. Um, Tony would n two though.
46:46
Speaker 1: It's a running back, right, are you in that? And that? Hey, Tony?
46:52
Speaker 1: The Giants And this is when you don't take away.
46:54
Speaker 1: You know, when you don't take a running back in
46:56
Speaker 1: the first round or in the top ten is when
46:59
Speaker 1: you need a quarterback. Excellent point. Tony deep thoughts with Tony,
47:06
Speaker 1: It's just you look at the value of position. True
47:09
Speaker 1: disagree you after seeing what the Jaguars got out of
47:13
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47:16
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47:19
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51:33
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52:39
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52:42
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Speaker 1: the Jaguar one. That's disappointing. It is beyond disappointing. Uh.
53:00
Speaker 1: And obviously it looks like, I mean, Houston's gonna win
53:03
Speaker 1: this division. No they're not. You don't think so. Well,
53:05
Speaker 1: I mean they're not guaranteed, but I mean the chances are.
53:08
Speaker 1: But look, the cults, the culture, Tennessee Titans are right there. Now,
53:13
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53:17
Speaker 1: don't think it's I think it's Houston is gonna get
53:20
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53:25
Speaker 1: They play great defense. But what did Andrew luck due
53:30
Speaker 1: to them? Hello? That was surprising. But I also think
53:35
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53:38
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53:41
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53:44
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53:48
Speaker 1: There's there's no doubt about that. So can they keep
53:51
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53:53
Speaker 1: still three games ago? You never know, JP, you know
53:56
Speaker 1: if that lady ain't singing yet, he's clearing her throat though. Um,
54:01
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54:07
Speaker 1: what's your what's your final score here? I really don't
54:11
Speaker 1: have any idea. I mean, you're we could have twenty four,
54:15
Speaker 1: twenty six points total? Yeah, I don't know. And it's
54:23
Speaker 1: a game that I would love to say that I
54:25
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54:27
Speaker 1: can if they if they play real good defense against
54:30
Speaker 1: the quarterback who has brought up the street, you would
54:33
Speaker 1: think that it would be very hard for the Redskins
54:36
Speaker 1: to score any points because the Jaguars defense is much
54:40
Speaker 1: different at home compared to on the road. They are
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Speaker 1: the number one team in the National Football League, and
54:46
Speaker 1: points allowed at home, I think it's fifteen at home,
54:50
Speaker 1: whereas on the road, what are they twenty or something
54:54
Speaker 1: like that. Because they have the big games in Kansas
54:56
Speaker 1: City and Dallas. It's it's different. It's different. So I
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55:04
Speaker 1: to score points yourself, and fifteen points over the last
55:08
Speaker 1: two weeks now, so your averaging seven and a half
55:12
Speaker 1: with Cody Kessler, so you've got to find a way
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55:20
Speaker 1: doesn't that kind of make you concern? You never want
55:22
Speaker 1: to see the kicker on the injury report Thursday. He
55:26
Speaker 1: has been responsible for more points, is that right? Over
55:32
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. He had a safety and a
55:34
Speaker 1: touchdown at Nashville, so that was nine and then he
55:37
Speaker 1: had six. So he has been responsible for just as
55:41
Speaker 1: many points as the offense in the last two games.
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Speaker 1: Because the offensive scored one touchdown, which is six point,
55:48
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55:52
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