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  Speaker 1: Is the gold reform it. Tonight Peter Dutton takes on
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  Speaker 1: the astonishing bias of an ABC journalist.
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  Speaker 2: And if that is not clear to the ABC, then
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  Speaker 2: I think the ABC is in greater trouble. And even
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  Speaker 2: I first imagined.
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  Speaker 1: But there was a second scandal today for the sanctimonious
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  Speaker 1: ABC a report it commissioned, saying it's riddled with racism.
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  Speaker 1: I go through some of the excruciating details. It's a
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  Speaker 1: clown show. Also tonight, the Queensland election starts today with
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  Speaker 1: a brave call by the opposition let the Greens weep?
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  Speaker 1: And is Donald Trump in danger of blowing the election
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  Speaker 1: with his loose tongue? But Kamala Harris's weird running mate
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  Speaker 1: is caught out with one of his strangest lies yet.
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  Speaker 1: But first, where is Penny Wong? Now Foreign Messa has
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  Speaker 1: to explain her role in a scandal. And I've said,
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  Speaker 1: don't trust the Albinizi government to get tough on the
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  Speaker 1: supporters of terrorist groups here that we saw last weekend
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  Speaker 1: flying the yellow flag of Hesbela terrorists in our streets,
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  Speaker 1: even dressing a toddler with the Hesbela insignia. And morning
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  Speaker 1: this week the leader of Hezbela in three Sydney mosques
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  Speaker 1: after he was killed in Lebanon by Israel last Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Do not trust Labour's tough talk today.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's no place for mourning a terrorist leader, and
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  Speaker 3: we're very concerned about some of the terrorist symbols. It's
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  Speaker 3: completely unacceptable. Any use of terrorrist symbols will be investigated
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  Speaker 3: by the security agencies as is appropriate.
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  Speaker 1: No, this government isn't really fighting groups like Hezbollah and Hamas,
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  Speaker 1: it's funding them. Yes, WOG is funding Hamas with your money.
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  Speaker 1: This man is Fata Sheriff Abu el Amin. He's a
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  Speaker 1: school principal and teacher union official who lives in Lebanon,
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  Speaker 1: or did until yesterday, is now being killed by Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Killed along with him when his house was burnt up,
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  Speaker 1: was sadly, his wife and daughter, which sounds like another
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  Speaker 1: supposed Israeli war crime. You know, a teacher killed a
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  Speaker 1: teacher with his wife and his daughter. Except Hamas, the
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  Speaker 1: terrorist group that started this war with Israel by slaughtering
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  Speaker 1: twelve hundred Jews on October seven, now says there's something
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  Speaker 1: else you should know about Fato Sheriff Abu el Amin.
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  Speaker 1: He was also the Hamas leader in Lebanon heading all
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  Speaker 1: its terrorists there, and he was paid as a teacher
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  Speaker 1: as a principal UNWA, the United Nations organization for the
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  Speaker 1: so called Palestinian refugees. That's the United Nations emblem behind him. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: this man was one of an incredible thirty two thousand
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  Speaker 1: Palestinians who are on the UNWA payroll. And Penny Wong,
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  Speaker 1: this government has funded UNHUAH and therefore helped pay the
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  Speaker 1: salary of that guy, that Hamas boss in Lebanon out
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  Speaker 1: money to him. In fact, Wong in twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 1: doubled our annual funding for UNWAR to twenty million dollars
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  Speaker 1: and added another six million after that. She ignored the
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  Speaker 1: warnings made by me and many others that many UNRA
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  Speaker 1: teachers seem to be teaching Palestinian children to hate say Ada.
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  Speaker 4: She has in the Sommah.
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  Speaker 1: In Shabebna. Now it's true that Penny Wong this year
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  Speaker 1: briefly suspended our funding to HUNWA when Israel claimed that
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  Speaker 1: two thousand UNUA employees were actually associated with Hamas and
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  Speaker 1: other Islamist terrorists groups, and some had even joined the
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  Speaker 1: Hamas attack on Israel. On October seven, ULNA finally investigated
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  Speaker 1: sak just nine of its staff. Elmin that Hamas chief
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  Speaker 1: in Lebanon. He was merely suspended. After that, Wong resumed
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  Speaker 1: our funding of this corrupted United Nations organization. How gullible
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  Speaker 1: do you have to be? Does Wog seriously think that
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  Speaker 1: Elamin was almost the only Hamas operative on the UN's payroll,
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  Speaker 1: that none of the many other terrorists under his command
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  Speaker 1: were also scamming taxpayers like us? Is the government really
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  Speaker 1: so stupid or is it wilfully deliberately blind as looked today?
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  Speaker 1: It's been kicked, dragged, kicking and screaming into doing something
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  Speaker 1: about the people here Waving the flags of Hesbela, mourning
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  Speaker 1: the hes Blow leader killed last week, chanting a war
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  Speaker 1: cry pushed Bahamas in Arabic that the armies of Islam
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  Speaker 1: are coming for the Jews to slaughter them as Muhammad
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  Speaker 1: did at the Battle of Kaibar. Well, today, Immigration Minster
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  Speaker 1: Tony Burke emerged to blast opposites to leader Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 1: for demanding tougher laws to ban flying those Hesbela flags.
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  Speaker 5: You've seen there with Tito Dudden. It is always about
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  Speaker 5: the Middle East. And never about Middle Australia.
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  Speaker 6: The moment, it's.
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  Speaker 5: About something on the other side of the world. Tita
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  Speaker 5: Dunnan wants to talk about that and nothing else.
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  Speaker 1: Is Tony Burke blind. What dunn is talking about is
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East coming to Middle Australia, bringing in their
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  Speaker 1: hatreds to our streets the other side of the world. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's here. It's now in Australia thanks to insanely reckless
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  Speaker 1: immigration policies and multicultural policies, all made worse by Labour's
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  Speaker 1: pandering to Muslim radicals. But I have a challenge to
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  Speaker 1: both parties now, actually Labor and the Liberals, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: just sick of the empty posturings, particularly from the Albanezi
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  Speaker 1: government calling for an end to the war many you
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  Speaker 1: know Israel, stop finding Look, no one in the Middle
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  Speaker 1: East pays the slightest attention to what these politicians say,
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  Speaker 1: for good or ill. It's all just words. But now
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  Speaker 1: Australia suddenly does have a chance to hit where it
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  Speaker 1: hurts and hit the right people. Today we hear the
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  Speaker 1: Qatar Airway it's part owned by a Qatar's government. Once
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  Speaker 1: about twenty five percent of Virgin Australia, which Virgin is
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  Speaker 1: mad keen to have happened to compete with Quantus.
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  Speaker 7: We know that in order to compete domestically we must
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  Speaker 7: have the world's best international network. We don't have the
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  Speaker 7: ability to operate the same sort of network that our
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  Speaker 7: competition does with our own metal internationally, so we don't
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  Speaker 7: absolutely depend on our partner.
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  Speaker 1: Now, this deal just has to be approved by the
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  Speaker 1: government's Foreign Investment Review Board, but even the opposition leader
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  Speaker 1: seems fine with it.
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  Speaker 2: We want to see competition in the airline space and
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  Speaker 2: so obviously FERB has a process to go through now.
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  Speaker 2: And if it strengthens competition then it provides a downward
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  Speaker 2: pressure on airfares for Australian citizens, then that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a fur process to go through now and
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what FERB.
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  Speaker 1: Has to say.
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  Speaker 2: But otherwise were welcome the announcement today from Virgin.
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  Speaker 1: This would be a mistake. Qatar is actually a player
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  Speaker 1: in the war against Israel. It helps to fund Hamas,
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  Speaker 1: It has let Hamas leaders live and operate in Qatar
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  Speaker 1: in safety. In fact, when Israel killed hamasa's top leader
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  Speaker 1: earlier this year, the official funeral was held in Qatar,
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  Speaker 1: with dignitaries and terrorists flying in for the ceremony. Now
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  Speaker 1: you think, why would Australia give a Middle Eastern regime
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  Speaker 1: that's funding and protecting the Hamas terrorist group to get
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  Speaker 1: a key steak in our second biggest airline, to get
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  Speaker 1: that much economic influence on Australia. Why wouldn't we instead
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  Speaker 1: use this chance have a real say to tell Katar
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  Speaker 1: what the Americans are now saying. To cut your ties
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  Speaker 1: to Hamas, stop supporting these terrorists, or else you're not
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  Speaker 1: welcome not here. Now. I know the Albanizi government doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be attacking any Middle Eastern countries. It prefers
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  Speaker 1: to attack Israel instead democratic Israel, But why not for
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  Speaker 1: once put pressure instead on the countries backing Israel's enemies,
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  Speaker 1: Iran particularly, but also Qatar. After all, the minute that
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  Speaker 1: their terrorists stop attacking Israel, this war is over and
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  Speaker 1: if this government is really serious about stopping terrorism, then
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  Speaker 1: ban Qatar. But as I said at the start, I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe them. Meanwhile, Israel, as we speak, as mustering
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  Speaker 1: tanks at its northern border ahead of what's expected to
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  Speaker 1: be a limited incursion into eleven on to push Hezbala
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  Speaker 1: terrorists and the rockets further away from the Israeli border.
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  Speaker 1: Here though, we face our own battle for civilization, for
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  Speaker 1: our values now. Yesterday I showed more examples of ABC
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  Speaker 1: bias in reporting this war, promoting, in my opinion, pro
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  Speaker 1: Hasbela voices. But today came this extraordinary exchange between an
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  Speaker 1: ABC reporter and Peter Dutton. After the opposition leader, they
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  Speaker 1: demanded that the Albenizer government take action to make sure
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  Speaker 1: it was illegal to fly the terrorist flag of hesbelas
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  Speaker 1: we saw on the weekend. But what about Israel's flag?
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  Speaker 1: The ABC reporter asked, BANG groups have commented.
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  Speaker 8: On the hypocrisy of that situation because there are no
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  Speaker 8: bands currently.
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  Speaker 9: On Israeli flags being raised despite forty.
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  Speaker 8: Five thousand people timing.
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  Speaker 2: As any Well, Israel is a democracy, it's not run
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  Speaker 2: by a terrorist organization. Hezbola is a terrorist organization. They're
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  Speaker 2: a listed terrorist organization. And if people are in favor
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  Speaker 2: of a terrorist organization, they should declare it and the
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  Speaker 2: authority should deal with them.
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  Speaker 1: What determined.
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  Speaker 8: What determines for fattergation?
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  Speaker 1: Even though men, where are you from?
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry? Which organization? ABC? So what's the question from
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  Speaker 2: the ABC. Just to be very clear, what was the
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  Speaker 2: question you asked? Now you asked the question about the listing,
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  Speaker 2: So I just want I want you to just ask
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  Speaker 2: that question again.
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  Speaker 5: What determine the cast?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I had presumed up until this point at least
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  Speaker 2: that the ABC supported the government's laws, and the government
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  Speaker 2: has passed laws supported on a bipartisan basis, but not
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  Speaker 2: by the ABC. It seems in relation to the prescribing
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  Speaker 2: or the listing of a terrorist organization, Hezbla under Australian
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  Speaker 2: law is a list of terrorist organization. Now, if the
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  Speaker 2: ABC doesn't support that, they should be very clear about it,
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  Speaker 2: because I think that's quite a departure. But you asked
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  Speaker 2: me why why that why our country has listed HESBLA.
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  Speaker 2: They're a terrorist organization that they organized terrorist attacks. And
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  Speaker 2: if that is not clear to the ABC, then I
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  Speaker 2: think the ABC is in greater trouble. And even I
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  Speaker 2: first imagined was the.
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  Speaker 1: Question just the quick memos of the ABC. Among the
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  Speaker 1: many terrorist attacks committed by Hezblah, including on American soldiers,
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  Speaker 1: was one on a Jewish cultural center in Argentina, nearly
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  Speaker 1: ninety people killed. Seriously joining me is Michael Suka, the
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  Speaker 1: Shadow Minister for Housing, Indas and Social Services, who also
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  Speaker 1: has Lebanese background through his father. Michael Suka, thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much for your time. What did you make of
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  Speaker 1: that exchange?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think it's in some respects entirely unsurprising that
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  Speaker 10: the ADC seems to be running interference on something that
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  Speaker 10: I think any decent minded Australian would agree with, and
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  Speaker 10: that's that as Bala and symbols that represent hes Bala
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  Speaker 10: or Hamas should be banned. These are terrorist organizations. Let's
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  Speaker 10: be frank, not a lineball call to state that these
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  Speaker 10: are terrorist organizations. If that ABCC journalist wants to understand
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  Speaker 10: why we don't think hes Bala symbols should be shown,
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  Speaker 10: I think we can just mention suicide bombings, car bombings,
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  Speaker 10: plane hijackings, murders, kidnapping, rape, torture, short and long range
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  Speaker 10: missiles into Israel, murdering Israeli citizens, they assassinated, They were
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  Speaker 10: indicted for assassinating the Lebanese Prime Minister, Rafik Career. I'm
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  Speaker 10: not sure what more the ABC would need for us
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  Speaker 10: to demonstrate that hez Bala is a terrorist organization, but
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  Speaker 10: it's a pretty damning list. And I commend Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 10: for the way he handled that, because I think most
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  Speaker 10: of us would have been absolutely incredulous if we had
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  Speaker 10: to receive a similar sort of question and statement from
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  Speaker 10: any reporter, let alone an ABC reporter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was shocked to I admit, I know the
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  Speaker 1: rot has gone deep in the ABC, but this is
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  Speaker 1: really I mean, this is just so flagrant. I mean
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  Speaker 1: the idea that she implicit in the question the equating
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  Speaker 1: the Israeli flag to the Hezbollah flag, or at least
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  Speaker 1: asking a question that seemed to do that whether the
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  Speaker 1: Israeli flags should also be banned as a terroristmand I
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  Speaker 1: wonder why she didn't say, you know, the Syrian flag
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  Speaker 1: should be banned half a million people killed there, or
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  Speaker 1: the Russian flag half a million people killed or a
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  Speaker 1: million including the Russian dead in the attack on Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so many flags could be banned by this measure.
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  Speaker 1: But she said, why wasn't the Israeli flag also banned
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  Speaker 1: as a terror symbol? What would have been your answer?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think I would have been far less than
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  Speaker 10: Peter Dutton was. I just think it's extraordinary a that
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  Speaker 10: the ABC would not just accept at face value that
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  Speaker 10: any symbol of Hezbala is a symbol that represents a
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  Speaker 10: terrorist organization. I just went through the litany of crimes
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  Speaker 10: of Hezbala, and I think it not only shows where
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  Speaker 10: the rot has started in the ABC, but the lack
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  Speaker 10: of intellectual ringer. You don't need to be a Middle
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  Speaker 10: Eastern expert to appreciate and understand that hes Bala is.
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  Speaker 1: Just like al Qaeda, just.
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  Speaker 10: Like Isis, just like Hamas. And the idea that you
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  Speaker 10: would compare the sovereign flag of a nation like Israel,
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  Speaker 10: the only true democracy in the Middle East somehow to
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  Speaker 10: hes Bala flag just shows how far the rot is
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  Speaker 10: in the ABC. And I feel for that journalist if
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  Speaker 10: she was put up to asking that question from some
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  Speaker 10: other senior journalists texting a tour or. And I feel
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  Speaker 10: a little less sorry for her if that was her
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  Speaker 10: question herself. But outrageous that you would draw that, Lincoln.
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  Speaker 10: Let's be honest, Andrew. In the ABC, you'd only get
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  Speaker 10: away with making that connection with Israel. No ABC journalists
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  Speaker 10: would dare make that connection with the flag of any
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  Speaker 10: other nation, let alone any other Middle Eastern nation.
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  Speaker 1: Michael, this is an interesting maybe a very difficult thing
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  Speaker 1: for an issue for you to be commenting on, given
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  Speaker 1: that your father was Lebanese. Lebanese Marinach Christian Christians used
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  Speaker 1: to make up half the population of Lebanon. Now it's
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  Speaker 1: less than a third. How do you feel about Hezbla.
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel about this war that's being reported
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  Speaker 1: as an Israeli war against Lebanon, as if all Lebanese
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  Speaker 1: be against what's happening and be mourning the death of
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  Speaker 1: the Hezbelah leader.
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  Speaker 10: Well, it's utterly false to suggest that this is a
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  Speaker 10: war between Israel and Lebanon. This is a war between
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  Speaker 10: Israel and a terrorist organization who takes its orders from Tehran,
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  Speaker 10: who is a wholly owned subsidiary of Iran, but conducts
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  Speaker 10: themselves within the borders of Lebanon. So I can tell
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  Speaker 10: you right now there will be many Lebanese Christian and
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  Speaker 10: Muslim alike who will be willing Israel on because Hezbala
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  Speaker 10: is not operating in the best interests of Lebanon. Hes
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  Speaker 10: Bala is operating in the best interests of Iran, just
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  Speaker 10: like Hamason, just like the Hodies, who are two other
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  Speaker 10: groups that are essentially wholly owned and funded by Iran.
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  Speaker 10: That's what hez Bala is. So this idea that it's
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  Speaker 10: Israel versus Lebanon is utterly false. And the other thing,
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  Speaker 10: I'd say, just touching a little bit on what we
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  Speaker 10: hear a lot from the government and from the ABC
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  Speaker 10: about a ceasefire. Hezballah has been lobbying missiles into Israel
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  Speaker 10: to the point where Israel has had to evacuate tens
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  Speaker 10: of thousands of their citizens outside of the range of
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  Speaker 10: those missiles. Hezbala would be in Israel would be derelicting
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  Speaker 10: their duty if they weren't to suppress that threat to
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  Speaker 10: their country. Let's think about it as Australians. If Australia
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  Speaker 10: was being bombed and large parts of our country and
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  Speaker 10: citizens had to be moved outside of that bombing zone,
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  Speaker 10: I think any decent minded Australian would expect that the
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  Speaker 10: Australian government and defense force would fight back. So this
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  Speaker 10: idea that Hesbala's allowed a wandering there and punch Israel
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  Speaker 10: in the face, and then Israel hits back, and then
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  Speaker 10: all of a sudden we call for a ceasefire.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I think is.
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  Speaker 10: Remarkable. Israel has a duty to hit back and to
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  Speaker 10: go back to where we started, Andrew. There will be
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  Speaker 10: many many Lebanese Muslim and Christian alike who will be
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  Speaker 10: willing the idf on to eliminate Hesbala from Lebanon, who
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  Speaker 10: are not operating in the best interests of Lebanon, but
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  Speaker 10: are in fact bringing misery onto Lebanon.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Sucker, thank you so much for your time. Thank you, Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow is the only other debate to be held in
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  Speaker 1: this bizarre US election campaign. This time it's not between
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  Speaker 1: Kamla Harris and Donald Trump, but they're running mates, the
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  Speaker 1: very strange Michigan Governor Tim Walls and Republican Senator j
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  Speaker 1: Ed E. Vance. And you may think, oh, who cares
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  Speaker 1: about the running mates? But this time Tim Wilson, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is not just seriously strange, it seems to be also
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  Speaker 1: a liar. And this is the guy they's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be the one adding experience and allans to the loupi
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  Speaker 1: Harris And there comes another timmuls lie. Is there any
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: falsely implied that he served in war? You know an Iraq?
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  Speaker 1: He got no closer than Italy, infightd the rank that
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: he got in the National Guard, made other false claims,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and now there's this post totally false that he was
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  Speaker 1: in Hong Kong when during the Chenneman Square massacre, when
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: China murdered protesting students.
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  Speaker 11: And I was just going and going to teach high
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  Speaker 11: school in Fosan and Guangdong and was in Hong Kong
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  Speaker 11: in May of eighty nine, and as events were unfolding,
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  Speaker 11: several of us went in and I still remember the
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  Speaker 11: train station in Hong Kong. It was a large number
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  Speaker 11: of especially European I think very angry that we would
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  Speaker 11: still go after what had happened, But it was my
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  Speaker 11: belief at that time that the diplomacy was going to
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  Speaker 11: happen on many levels.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me is Sean Spicer, the first White House spokes
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  Speaker 1: of President Donald Trump. Seoul Spice is great to see you. Look.
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  Speaker 1: Governor Wolls was not in Hong Kong during the massacre.
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  Speaker 1: Was safe back in the United States. What is his
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  Speaker 1: lightest lie, exaggeration misremembering. What does this say about this guy?
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  Speaker 12: Well, it says a lot about not just Tim Watz,
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  Speaker 12: a pattern of misrepresenting who he is and what he's
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  Speaker 12: done and what he said.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen this over and over again.
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  Speaker 12: His military record.
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  Speaker 4: Awards that he's won and lied about.
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  Speaker 12: Now this instance where he claimed to be somewhere, which
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  Speaker 12: was you know, this isn't like somebody Andrew, if you
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  Speaker 12: said were you at this event last Tuesday? I might
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  Speaker 12: have to, you know, scratch my head and think. But
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  Speaker 12: to not know that you were in tiannem And Square
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  Speaker 12: when it was happening seems a little odd to me.
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  Speaker 12: That's not the kind of thing that you just miss
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  Speaker 12: out on. He knew he was lying when he said it,
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  Speaker 12: and it's continued patterned.
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  Speaker 6: I hope Jade Evans.
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  Speaker 1: Brings it up tomorrow.
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  Speaker 12: But it's also a reminder that there are people in
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: America who think, because you've made it to elected office,
• 22:05
  Speaker 12: somehow you've been vetted. And it's just a reminder that,
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: especially with journalism the way it is, or you know
• 22:14
  Speaker 12: currently is in America, just because you are elected once
• 22:18
  Speaker 12: or twice doesn't mean that you've actually been vetted. But
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: I'm surprised, you know it's you have now given this
• 22:23
  Speaker 12: issue more do than the American media has.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: That is such the story isn't of this whole campaign.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: The past that the whole Kamala Harris campaign has been
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: getting is quite extraordinary. Normally that you know, someone who's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: inexperienced in goofy as Kamala Harris wouldn't get through the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: front door. But it's just being given a magic carpet
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: ride almost to the White House. You mentioned that tomorrow's debate,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: How important is it normally? You know, vice presidential debate
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: sensing to remove the doll at all? What about tomorrow?
• 22:57
  Speaker 12: You know, I wish I could say it's going to
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: count a lot, because I know jd Vance and I
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: know that he'll do very well tomorrow. Contrasts that his
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: record and his vision with Donald Trump for America. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 12: think he'll wipe the floor with Tim Waltz. But I
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: don't know that people actually care that much about vice presidents.
• 23:15
  Speaker 12: I've always maintained that that's not really who you're voting for.
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: If Joe Biden had still been the nominee, I think
• 23:22
  Speaker 12: it might have mattered a little bit more because I
• 23:24
  Speaker 12: don't think anybody expected him to make it through a
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: second term, and they probably would have wanted to know
• 23:29
  Speaker 12: a little bit more about Kamala Harris. And you know, frankly,
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: let's be honest, we don't know a lot about her
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: even now. In terms of her positions, what she really believes,
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: why she flip flopps on so many issues. But I
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: think it would have mattered more then unless somebody screws
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: up andrew tomorrow, which you know, who knows. With Tim Waltz,
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: I don't know that it's going to be consequential. More
• 23:52
  Speaker 12: than likely, I think it's going to be a push.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd suspect the any influence it could have, And
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: is if Jadie Vance keeps linking Walls to Kamala Harris
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and say says, you know, you're supposed to be the
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: mainstream guy, you're still far left. What does it say
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: about Kamala Harris.
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: Jd Vance really needs to make him answer the question
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: about her. It's not about Tim Walls, Let's be honest.
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: I have a million questions I'm sure you do too,
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: about his lies, his misrepresentations, his record, his far left views.
• 24:25
  Speaker 12: But Tomorrow Night is really about forcing him to answer
• 24:29
  Speaker 12: questions about Kamala Harris and hopefully expose the reality of
• 24:35
  Speaker 12: her policies.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Absolutely correct. I've got to say, Sean, no doubt when
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you were in the White House you're worried about this
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: kind of thing too. I'm worried that Donald Trump could
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: be throwing away this election by being so abusive. I mean,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I like a lot of bo he represents, but the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: abuse is just too much for me. He just wined,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: like you keep saying, by making the case that he
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: was a better president than you know, Kamala Harris would
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: ever be. It said, it's that resorted to this. I listen,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden became mentally impaired. Kamala was born that way. Now, Sean,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I can imagine a lot of voters who are in
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the middle thinking I don't need that. I can't think
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: of one that says, hey, I was at been doubt
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: about voting for Donald Trump, but now seeing that I'm going.
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: To Yeah, Look, I've said this before. You echoed my
• 25:36
  Speaker 12: previous comments. He is playing a great hand with respect
• 25:41
  Speaker 12: to the issues that voters care about, immigration, border security,
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: the threat of increased crime, I mean, the economy and
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: the cost of doing business and taking care of your
• 25:51
  Speaker 12: family these days because of the inflationary policies of this administration,
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: like you don't need to do you know, as we
• 25:58
  Speaker 12: sometimes say in America, color outside the lines.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: You got it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: It's right there in front of you. The ball is
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: on the tee just hit it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: When he goes after her in the way that he
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: did in that clip that you just played, it's frankly unnecessary.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I understand why he wants to do it, But to.
• 26:13
  Speaker 12: Your point, this comes down to the elections are about addition,
• 26:17
  Speaker 12: not subtraction. And when someone watches that clip, does it
• 26:20
  Speaker 12: make them more likely or less likely to vote for
• 26:22
  Speaker 12: Donald Trump?
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: And it's not just more or less likely in the
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: general sense.
• 26:26
  Speaker 12: Let's look at who matters right now in these final
• 26:30
  Speaker 12: thirty six days. If you think that Donald Trump's pugnacious
• 26:34
  Speaker 12: and aggressive style is something.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: That you really really like, you're already voting for him.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: He's got your vote.
• 26:42
  Speaker 12: It's the people right now who know him, who wonder
• 26:45
  Speaker 12: about her ability to be commander in chief, to stand
• 26:48
  Speaker 12: on the world stage and go toe to toe with
• 26:50
  Speaker 12: Shijingping and Vladimir Putin and others.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: And I'm not sure a comment like that brings them
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: into your fold. In fact, it might neutral them more
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: and say, you know, I don't like her.
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: I think she's extreme, I think she's crazy, I think
• 27:05
  Speaker 12: her policies are harmful.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I can't trust her.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: All of those things.
• 27:09
  Speaker 12: Those are all fair criticism and I think probably would
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: help you. But when you go outside the lines, I
• 27:16
  Speaker 12: just again it's not going to bring you another vote.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Sean Spicer, thank you so much indeed for your time,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: of course, Andrew. After the break, the Queensland elections started
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: today with a bang from the opposition Matt Canavan after
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: this Queensland election campaign officially started today with Paul showing
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the smile is about to be wiped off the face
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of the Queensland Labor Premier Stephen Giles Miles, oh, we
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: don't have that grab well, the first promise in this
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: campaign that the Queensland opposition, the Liberal National Party, is
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: actually terrific. I mean all right. I admit that the leader,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: David Chris fully didn't actually give a straight answer to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a question about this the first few times he was asked.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: But LMP headquarters has now confirmed that the party is
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: not going to give the Greens their preferences in any seat.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: It will always preference Labor over the Greens, which does
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: mean it's going to save some Labour seats to the
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Greens hope to win. Small price to pay, because I
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: think Labor also should not preference the Greens. The Greens
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: are poison. They've got to be driven out of every
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: parliament in the country as a threat and an abomination.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a party who's extreme global warming
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: policies will ruin the country. This is a viciously anti
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Israel party that still has not condemned people flying the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: flags of terrorist has below. In fact, Greens were participating
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: in some of these protests. Joining Mean's the National Senate
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: in Queensland at Mattcanavan. The former also mins that Matt,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: good to see you look a really good call by
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: your party to put the Greens last. And also Brad,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: given that Dave Christopher Woley choked over having to say it, well, look, it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 13: Sets up a really clear choice at the Queensland election.
• 29:15
  Speaker 13: I know you mentioned that you think Premier Miles won't
• 29:20
  Speaker 13: have a smile on his face in a month's time,
• 29:22
  Speaker 13: but no election is a given and the state omp
• 29:25
  Speaker 13: do have a lot of seats to win back. That
• 29:28
  Speaker 13: last election swung to Labor in the COVID years when
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: everyone thought they were keeping them safe a little bit
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: wrongly in hindsight, but that was the perception. So there's
• 29:36
  Speaker 13: a big mountain to climb here. But there is a
• 29:37
  Speaker 13: really clear choice. The reason the Premier won't condemn the
• 29:41
  Speaker 13: Greens for the for the obvious sins that you've mentioned
• 29:45
  Speaker 13: is because of two things. One, he does need their preferences.
• 29:48
  Speaker 13: He will do a preference deal, unlike we'd like the
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: l and P will do a preference deal with this
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: minor party. We don't always get to know what's discussed
• 29:55
  Speaker 13: in those background deals, the background deals, or what's traded
• 29:59
  Speaker 13: off to get those preferences, and then after the election
• 30:02
  Speaker 13: there could be another trading round. There'll be around two
• 30:04
  Speaker 13: with the Greens potentially if Labour has any hope or
• 30:07
  Speaker 13: forming government. I mean I think as I say, no
• 30:09
  Speaker 13: elections are given, but probably is a given that Labour
• 30:11
  Speaker 13: Party won't be returned in a majority. The only way
• 30:13
  Speaker 13: they'd scrabble together a government would be with minor party support.
• 30:17
  Speaker 13: So Queenslanders just won't know what they're getting. And as
• 30:20
  Speaker 13: you say, the Greens have got very extreme policies. They
• 30:22
  Speaker 13: don't support increase housing for example, to lower the cost
• 30:25
  Speaker 13: of housing. They want to shut down the entire coal
• 30:28
  Speaker 13: industry which is bankrolling Queensland almost the whole country. What
• 30:32
  Speaker 13: would the Labor Party sign up to?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: We just don't know.
• 30:35
  Speaker 13: You can't trust them given how many flip flops they've
• 30:37
  Speaker 13: done in the past year.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Well then what you say counts double triple for the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: federal election because they're in the Labor Party is a
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: chance to retain government only with the support of the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Greens and people. Look, I might have to devote a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: whole program to it. What do the Greens really stand for?
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I think most people still figures fluffy kittens and they're
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: lovely trees. But it's not I think have to be
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a miniseries. It'll be Bolt episodes. Andrew, I probably will
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: probably butt Qatar Airways. It's now buying twenty five percent
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: of Virgin Australia but needs still finel approofal from the
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Foreign Investment Review Board. Now you will be glad that
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Quantas is going to get more competition, which should be
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: good for flight, particularly international flights. But should an airline
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Qatar of a government that funds and protects Hamas have
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that much control over a company that's so critical to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Australia's transport.
• 31:35
  Speaker 13: Look, I agree with you that this is a commercially
• 31:37
  Speaker 13: positive step for competition in airline space, especially given the
• 31:41
  Speaker 13: recent demise of Rex at least from those capital city routes.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: So look, we do need more competition.
• 31:48
  Speaker 13: Look, you know it's a tough question you raise, but
• 31:51
  Speaker 13: it all does also then raise well where do you
• 31:53
  Speaker 13: draw the line here?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: We obviously do a.
• 31:55
  Speaker 13: Lot of business and do take investment from China, and
• 32:00
  Speaker 13: you know they have perhaps at least a rap sheet
• 32:04
  Speaker 13: on human rights as long as you could attribute to
• 32:06
  Speaker 13: regimes like Qatar. But we traditionally haven't sought to prosecute
• 32:12
  Speaker 13: those types of issues through our trading and investment relationships,
• 32:14
  Speaker 13: and I think that's served our country well. We of
• 32:17
  Speaker 13: course should raise issues of human rights with other nations governments,
• 32:22
  Speaker 13: but we also probably do need to respect their sovereignty
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: as other governments, and we'd have to take a pretty
• 32:28
  Speaker 13: extreme case, I think, for us to close down trade.
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: We didn't even do that during the Cold War. We've
• 32:33
  Speaker 13: obviously done it with Russia and it hasn't exactly worked
• 32:36
  Speaker 13: that well. The sanctions that have occurred post Ukraine haven't
• 32:39
  Speaker 13: changed behavior. So you've got to kind of work out, well,
• 32:41
  Speaker 13: if you are going to sanctioned countries for trade and investment,
• 32:44
  Speaker 13: are you really just cutting off your nose despite your
• 32:46
  Speaker 13: face as a going to actually generate and change or
• 32:48
  Speaker 13: is just going to cost you. Guys are at your
• 32:50
  Speaker 13: own country wealth and prosperity.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Except of course Islamus terrorism is a threat in Australia too.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: And if we've got to start cutting these things off
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: of the knees because it will come back to haunt us.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And giving Millison country like that so much say in
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: our economy I think is a very big mistaker which
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: China had less save myself Britain, Matt, you'll be glad
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to know is living the greens dream. No, you won't
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: be glad to know this. It's just closed the last
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: coal fired power generator in the country after one hundred
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and forty two years of coal fired electricity. That has
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: happened to stun some workers who rightly are wondering, Matt Canavan,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: where tomorrow's electricity is coming from? Here is one of them?
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: Why are they shut at a call site when there's
• 33:39
  Speaker 12: nothing to replace.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: It at the moment? It just seems madness and not unrelated, Matt,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Britain also shut its coal last it's a huge cul
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: fired blast furnace and its biggest steel works, both in Wales.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Another two thousand jobs gone this is the green de
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: industrializing of the West, isn't it, And that's got to
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: make China very happy.
• 34:05
  Speaker 13: Well, absolutely, Andrew. There's a lot of green useful idiots,
• 34:10
  Speaker 13: if you like, this week applauding this outcome that Britain,
• 34:14
  Speaker 13: the home of the industrial Revolution, has walked away from
• 34:18
  Speaker 13: coal fired power, but they tend to I've I don't
• 34:21
  Speaker 13: see any of them mentioning at the same time that
• 34:23
  Speaker 13: this very week, the UK government has published new figures
• 34:27
  Speaker 13: on the relative cost of electricity in the UK, and
• 34:30
  Speaker 13: those figures show the UK just this week has got
• 34:34
  Speaker 13: another mantle, has taken the gold medal for the highest
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: electricity prices in the developed world. Now these two things connected,
• 34:41
  Speaker 13: I think they may be. They've shut down their cheap,
• 34:44
  Speaker 13: reliable coal fired power, replaced it with a lot of
• 34:47
  Speaker 13: wind and solar, which is not working too well or
• 34:49
  Speaker 13: only works half the time at best, and they've ended
• 34:52
  Speaker 13: up at the highest.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Power price in the world.
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: And as a consequence, as you said, Britain will no
• 34:55
  Speaker 13: longer be able to make steel from scratch. They have
• 34:57
  Speaker 13: plans to build a recycled stick factory in the next
• 35:01
  Speaker 13: few years, but they will no longer be able to
• 35:02
  Speaker 13: make steel on their own bat And yes, the Britain
• 35:05
  Speaker 13: may very well be the home of the industrial revolution,
• 35:09
  Speaker 13: but because of our naivety, it looks like the future
• 35:12
  Speaker 13: of the industri revolution is going to countries like China
• 35:16
  Speaker 13: that are just paying lip service to the climate agreements
• 35:18
  Speaker 13: and building could fired power stations like they're going out
• 35:20
  Speaker 13: of fashion.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Which they are in the West. Absolutely, this is how
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the whole global warming scam benefits China more than any
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: other country on Earth. Mcanavan, thanks for your time. After
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: the break, a report commissioned by the ABC and it's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: always a mistake says, yes, the ABC is rotten with racism.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, what do these full six peth You'll laugh
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: when you see some of the details. Peter Dutton's running
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: with the ABC over his past reporting in Israels just
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: probably not even the biggest scale. And hitting the ABC
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: today is in their eyes it's the ABC managers. They
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: were silly enough to commission a report into racism at
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the National broadcast. That was after the very pampered ABC
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: star Stan Grant quit accusing the ABC of not protecting
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: him from the age racism of critics of his racemongering reports.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Now there's a golden rule that if you ask racism
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: experts to check your racism, they're going to say you're
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: full of it. And this review of the ABC released
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: today proves it in spades. The ABC is riddled with racism. Supposedly,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: it says, because one hundred and nineteen staff claimed that
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: they'd seen it. They'd been called racist names themselves, have
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: been told they were affirmative action hires, or been paid
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: less than they deserved because of their race or ethnic
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. Joining mister panel. Will Kingston, hosts of
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Fire at Will That's a podcast from The Tator, and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Politics and Culture, and Liz Thorough of the Fantastic Later
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: debate here on Sky at ten pm. Now, Will look,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: racism is terrible, But seriously, I can't take this report
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: at all seriously because so much of it seems like
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: special pleading or taking offense of being told what might
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: actually be true, that these people were protected or hard
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: because of the race or ethnicity. Am I being unfair?
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: Now you're not.
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: I'll preface what I will my comments by saying it's
• 37:34
  Speaker 14: amusing that Stan Grant was one of the people most
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: responsible for wasting a year of Australia's time on a
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: useless political exercise, and now he's responsible for wasting a
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: year of the ABC's time on a useless administrative exercise.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: It's weirdly impressive, Andrew.
• 37:50
  Speaker 14: This is a great example of how the left have
• 37:52
  Speaker 14: successfully reframed what racism means. Used to mean overt discrimination
• 37:57
  Speaker 14: on the basis of race, and now it's this pseudo
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: intellectual attempt to.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: Soothe white guilt.
• 38:04
  Speaker 14: It's full of those sorts of terms that you mentioned,
• 38:06
  Speaker 14: like structural racism, like microaggressions.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: Unfortunately, unfortunately that.
• 38:11
  Speaker 14: The real problem here is that it doesn't actually address
• 38:15
  Speaker 14: real problems, and it's the taxpayer who's going to pay
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: for the anti racism consultant who are going to come
• 38:20
  Speaker 14: in and implement these silly recommendations in the proposal. If
• 38:24
  Speaker 14: I was Peter Dutton, what I would do, maybe a
• 38:26
  Speaker 14: bit cynically, is I would use this as an example
• 38:29
  Speaker 14: of a rotten culture and further evidence that the ABC
• 38:32
  Speaker 14: needs to be defunded.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that is the report is so confused,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: and it's actually going to create more grounds for accusing
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the ABC of raisen down the track for most The
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: pertinence of that is it's sciences racism. ABC staff complaints
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that they were told they were diversity hars. Right, they
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: were diversity hars, picked on because the raceinicity whatever. But
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: then it recommends that to fix that, among other things,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: it should hire even more people who are Aboriginal or
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: from non English speaking communities at all levels of the ABC,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: so more diversity hars, more people who can complain that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: they were diversity hers.
• 39:18
  Speaker 15: These guys simply do not get it. You can have
• 39:22
  Speaker 15: as many people as you like who look completely differently
• 39:25
  Speaker 15: to each other, but if they all think the same,
• 39:27
  Speaker 15: you still don't have diversity. And of course that is
• 39:30
  Speaker 15: going to foster some very hostile feelings in the workplace
• 39:34
  Speaker 15: of people calling those who weren't just hired by their
• 39:37
  Speaker 15: merits calling them diversity highers, because then you have a
• 39:41
  Speaker 15: bunch of people who didn't get the rays that they wanted,
• 39:44
  Speaker 15: who don't get the position that they feel that they've deserved,
• 39:48
  Speaker 15: and somebody else, if they have a different skin color,
• 39:51
  Speaker 15: are going to be seen as a diversity higher. But
• 39:54
  Speaker 15: you would have thought that after that terrible Dune survey
• 39:58
  Speaker 15: that they did regarding sec harassment and bullying in the workplace,
• 40:03
  Speaker 15: we're over a quarter of the ABC's employees claimed that
• 40:07
  Speaker 15: they'd been bullied. Thirteen percent of them said that they'd
• 40:10
  Speaker 15: been sexually harassed over the last two years.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: You'd think that the ABC.
• 40:15
  Speaker 15: Would have learnt by now. Seek and ye shall find.
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: If you're going to throw the net fine and ask
• 40:22
  Speaker 15: your employees is there a problem here? Especially when you're
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  Speaker 15: prone to shall we say employee rather sensitive people when
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  Speaker 15: it comes to these topics, then you're going to find
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  Speaker 15: that any given issue is right within your organization.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if we're supposed to take this as seriously as
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  Speaker 1: the ABC does, I go to ask why we're spending
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  Speaker 1: one point one million dollars a year one billion dollars
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  Speaker 1: a year and organizations are rotten with racism and I'm discussed.
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  Speaker 1: Will I like this bit too? The ABC? It says,
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  Speaker 1: so should this report should establish voice coaching protocols to
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  Speaker 1: sure star feels safe using their authentic voices reflecting the
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  Speaker 1: diversity of Australian society. What does that mean that I
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  Speaker 1: can if I was employed by the ABC, I could
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  Speaker 1: speak Dutch and tell people to suck it.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 6: I think that would actually be an interesting one for
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  Speaker 6: the ratings.
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  Speaker 14: Andrew, I wouldn't be I'd be kind of curious to
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  Speaker 14: see that from you, But there is something kind of
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  Speaker 14: somewhat strange about being coached to be authentic. I'd actually
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  Speaker 14: just pick up on something that Liz said, which is
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  Speaker 14: I think deep down they wanted these findings because it
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  Speaker 14: proves the wider narrative that institutions like the ABC are
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  Speaker 14: structurally racist, and as a result they can go about
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  Speaker 14: implementing an anti racist agenda. I don't think they would
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  Speaker 14: have actually been unhappy about these results at all. Means
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  Speaker 14: that they can then get the grift on and actually
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  Speaker 14: start to kind of basically play out this narrative that
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  Speaker 14: white people are evil and therefore we need to upend
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  Speaker 14: the system that we're starting within the ABC's four balls.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: How cunning you or mind works? Will you scare me?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Sometimes just quickly lives to the US, and it's credible
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  Speaker 1: to me that Joe Biden is still president there where
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: with so many wars raging and it's not with us.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Half the time, I didn't know that he actually can
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: figure out what he's talking about. So take this exchange.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Reporters are asking him about the Israeli strike now on
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the Houti extremes in Yemen who fired missiles at Israel
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: choked off shipping through the Seuic Canal that punished Israel.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Barden talked to said about a strike in US ports,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I haven't listened to this, and he.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: Comment on the strikes in yng and mister President.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Strive cut shut a stroke.
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: Like the borer never and I.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Think you're so Astralia, Liz. That's a little freaky.
• 42:47
  Speaker 15: I think he's very confused here. I think he thinks
• 42:50
  Speaker 15: they're asking him about the labor strikes, which are massive
• 42:55
  Speaker 15: at the moment. The shipping companies are like, we're not
• 42:58
  Speaker 15: doing this anymore.
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  Speaker 4: They've been offered.
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  Speaker 15: Fifty percent pay rise. They're pushing for seventy seven percent
• 43:03
  Speaker 15: or everybody else can go jump.
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  Speaker 9: So he's saying, oh, they can just sort it out.
• 43:08
  Speaker 15: You know, there'll be a settlement, there'll be some sort
• 43:10
  Speaker 15: of deal. He doesn't actually know what he's being asked about.
• 43:14
  Speaker 15: In that same stop by the press, he was also asked,
• 43:17
  Speaker 15: are you going to deploy any more people to the
• 43:21
  Speaker 15: Middle East? He replied no, and the very next day
• 43:25
  Speaker 15: the Pentagon announced that the US would be sending thousands more.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Troops to the Middle East.
• 43:31
  Speaker 15: I think at this point, Andrew, I'm not sure that
• 43:34
  Speaker 15: America has a president at all, and you can bet
• 43:37
  Speaker 15: your bottoms dop so true Democrats. When what would Kamala
• 43:41
  Speaker 15: say to that question as well? She'd probably start out
• 43:44
  Speaker 15: by telling us that she was raised in a middle
• 43:46
  Speaker 15: class family.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I've heard that story so often now it's like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Anthony an easy raised, the single man has
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the commission flat. We'll thank you so much for you both.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Exactly after the breaking black politician teaches of white British
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: journalists not to be so ashamed of British culture and
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: to keep out the riffraff. Is this woman Britain's next
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: prime minister? The debate last week? You know where are
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the great leaders now? Where the conservative panty in Britain
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: got smashed? The last selection of being labor light where
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: we've heard that before and it's now looking for a
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: new leader. Some of the candidates there have learned the lessons.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: In fact, one Kemmy Badnock spoke so much sense that
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: she shocked the BBC reporter, which led to the wonderful
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: site that will so throw the left. A black woman
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: having to coach a white journalist on taking pride in
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: British culture. You rate that we cannot assume that all
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: cultures are equally valid.
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: So which cultures in your review are less valid than others?
• 44:51
  Speaker 16: Oh lots, cultures that believe in child marriage, for instance,
• 44:56
  Speaker 16: or that women don't have equal rights. I actually think
• 44:58
  Speaker 16: it's extraordinary that people. I think that's an unusual or
• 45:02
  Speaker 16: controversial thing to say. Of course, not all cultures are
• 45:04
  Speaker 16: equally valid. I don't believe in cultural relativism. I believe
• 45:08
  Speaker 16: in Western valleys the principles which have made this country great,
• 45:12
  Speaker 16: and I think that we need to make sure that
• 45:14
  Speaker 16: we continue to abide by those principles to keep the
• 45:16
  Speaker 16: society that we have now joined.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Me from London is rather broadcast columnists. It's the crack.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: It's a lovely to see. First tell us about Kimy
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: bed Enock. Is she really the real deal?
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: She seems like it.
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  Speaker 8: She seems to have had a couple of hiccups with
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: the media, particularly on her comments maternity pay, which I
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: do think, in her defense, has been twisted by the media.
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: She was talking about obviously, you know, issues with kind
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: of over regulating businesses when it comes to maternity pay.
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: There is a sort of a balance to be struck there.
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: But she really has made headwaves this in this race
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: because she's really resonating with the Tory base.
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: It really looks like it's going to.
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: Come down to her and Robert Jenerick, who, if anyone knows,
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: was always running kind of in the center of the
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: Tory Party but now has kind of positive himself as
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: a center right almost like Reformish candidate, talking about leaving
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: the ECHR. It's been quite amusing to watch Kemy for
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: many reasons, mainly because she kind of seems to be
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: like the BBC's worst nightmare.
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: The fact that she had to make the obvious statement that.
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: Valid or equal, and obviously that informs her approach to
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: immigration as well, because she says we should be having
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: people coming to this country that can actually integrate and
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: adopt British values.
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: These are the kinds of things that drive the media
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: absolutely upper wall. She has had some hiccups. I think
• 46:30
  Speaker 9: there's a bit of Polish that needs to come from
• 46:32
  Speaker 9: her end, particularly.
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: From her team, but you can see the reason why
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: she's making headways headways in this race.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: The question is will she be enough to resurrect the
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: Tory Party.
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: I think most of the country will need years to
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: forget the last fourteen years of Tory leadership. All eyes
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: really are now on reform. They're the real threats, particularly
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: to labor. They came second to labor in almost one
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: hundred seats. The Tories weren't even anywhere near close to that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: You know, the are only three points behind the tour
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: At the moment, they seem to be the real film
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: because there's a real gap for some actual change. The Labors,
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: the Labor Party and the Tory Party at the moment
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: are kind of equally despised, particularly given Kirs Starmer's sort
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: of freebie scandal and the fact that he really seems
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: like the hypocrite.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Of the year. Sixty thousand dollars of free clothes he accepted.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: You wonder what he must be wearing, you know, pants
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: with diamonds, zips and gold buttons. I don't know, But
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: why is it that a black woman can voice more
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: proud in British culture and put up a better defense
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: than a white BBC journalsy seemed stricken by racial guilt.
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: Because it's a mentality of the metropolitan elite. And you know,
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: if we look at Kemmy Badknock's background. She's Nigerian and
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: she comes from a socially conservative family.
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: I have a similar background. I'm going in and I
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: come from a socially conservative background.
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: You know, for people like us, it's easier for us
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: to say, actually, we want Britain to retain the values
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: that made it so great, because there's a reason why
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: our parents chose to come here. If we wanted to
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: stay in the cultures that we were reason, we would
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: have done that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: If we wanted to stay in the countries that we
• 48:03
  Speaker 9: came from, we would have done that. But there's a
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: reason why many people are risking their luck.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: You put it so brilliantly. Thank you very much for that.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Oh sorry the sound cut out there. Sorry about Esther,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I thought we'd lost you. Apologies for that. We must
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: give you more time to make up for it next week.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, indeed for your time. Well that's
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: it for me. Coming up next is the most excellent
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  Speaker 1: Sherry Markson. But for me, it's good night.