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10-27-26 Hour 3 - No Nuggets urgency/Adam Schefter/Reacting to what's in front of us · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Schefter in 20 minutes. In the meantime, turn that off immediately.
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  Speaker 2: The Nuggets lose yesterday. They start the season one and two.
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  Speaker 2: I heard some of the clips you're talking about. Nellie,
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  Speaker 2: if you could pull this up, just Jamal Murray in
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  Speaker 2: the postgame. He mentioned that they knew the 0-3 Warriors
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  Speaker 2: would be desperate, and he said they played really hard.
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  Speaker 2: And then he mentioned again they played really hard. And
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  Speaker 2: to me, I'm like, okay, well, that's expected.
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  Speaker 3: But he goes, this is what you expect from an
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  Speaker 3: 0-3 team. They're desperate.
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  Speaker 2: At what point does the desperate go the other way?
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  Speaker 2: You're 1-2, not that far off from 1-3. You're a
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  Speaker 2: quarter away from being maybe 1-3.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. 0-3.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, 0-3.
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  Speaker 2: Desperation and playing hard and all this different stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I am so tired of that. Oklahoma City's undefeated. They
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  Speaker 4: play hard.
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  Speaker 3: But I agree with you. What I'm saying is, why
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  Speaker 3: does that matter? Shouldn't you be playing just as hard?
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  Speaker 4: It shouldn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: It should never matter. I mean, there are going to
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  Speaker 4: be games. It's a long season. I get it. There
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  Speaker 4: are going to be games where you just don't have
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  Speaker 4: the energy. Totally get it. Second game of a back-to-back,
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  Speaker 4: three games in four nights. Totally get it.
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  Speaker 2: Totally.
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  Speaker 5: Totally.
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  Speaker 4: Second game at home game three, after a game in
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  Speaker 4: which you had to come back from 23 down playing hard,
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  Speaker 4: shouldn't be a, a gift.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's, here's Jamal after the game. Jamal, you said
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  Speaker 3: the other team was playing very hard to get a win.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel like they were playing harder than you guys?
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  Speaker 3: And why, why didn't you guys have that same urgency?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's just natural as a human being.
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  Speaker 6: When you're on three, you're fighting for your life. You know, um,
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  Speaker 6: It's not that we decided to not play hard.
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  Speaker 2: Rather, they just won the game. Sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I know you didn't decide not to play hard, but
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  Speaker 7: you did just mention that they were playing very hard.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they just played hard. They just played hard. Gotcha.
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  Speaker 4: That was Brendan Vogt from DNVR who was asking, I
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  Speaker 4: think that's his voice. I wasn't there at the press conference.
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  Speaker 4: But that is always the biggest call-out you can give
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  Speaker 4: a player is not bringing it, right? Don't you agree, Moshe? Sure.
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  Speaker 4: You could criticize, well, it didn't have a shooting touch tonight,
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  Speaker 4: or the refs were bad, or I messed this play.
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  Speaker 4: It was just a brain fart. But you want to
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  Speaker 4: really get a player riled up, tell them that they
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  Speaker 4: didn't bring the energy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not playing hard. But you can couch it
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  Speaker 5: in a way where you say, well, you've got to
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  Speaker 5: compete better. That's different than saying, you know what, you're
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  Speaker 5: not even trying. But if you say we need more compete,
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  Speaker 5: that's a message that everybody understands without calling guys soft
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  Speaker 5: and not giving the effort.
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  Speaker 4: There's something about the Nuggets and the way they approach
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  Speaker 4: the psychology of basketball that always has me going the
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  Speaker 4: opposite way. For example, listen to what Jamal just said.
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  Speaker 4: That's a desperate team. They're 0-3. They brought it, right?
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  Speaker 4: I believe the Nuggets would have been better off playing
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  Speaker 4: an undefeated team last night. Minnesota. They'd have been better
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  Speaker 4: off playing a team, I guess, that they get psyched
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  Speaker 4: up to play. Is that the impression that he's leaving there?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Part of my concern with the Nuggets, like it or not,
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  Speaker 2: this is an extension of how your season.
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  Speaker 3: Ends the previous year, how you play at the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the year.
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  Speaker 4: It always is, especially when most of the team is back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've made the decision largely to run it
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  Speaker 2: back with the same squad that you had last year
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  Speaker 2: with a couple of mix-ups here and there.
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  Speaker 3: But it's the same thing with the Avs.
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  Speaker 2: Consternation that I think people feel with the Avs coming
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  Speaker 2: off games like they had against Nashville are like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I just watched how last season ended, and that wasn't fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to believe that that was... Some sort
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  Speaker 2: of false thing that I saw last year.
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  Speaker 6: A mirage.
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  Speaker 5: Just a confluence of circumstances all into one week.
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  Speaker 2: But they've had multiple games this year that look a
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  Speaker 2: lot like those games did that ended your season.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. And the same thing with the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 2: The Nuggets season ended last year largely because I think
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  Speaker 2: people felt they just didn't show fight at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the year. You get called out by a member
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  Speaker 2: of the opposite team by name. on something that has
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  Speaker 2: to do with purely effort, which is defense. And they
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  Speaker 2: didn't respond. And then this year, you're like, oh, they
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  Speaker 2: were playing hard.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: And?
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  Speaker 3: What about it?
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  Speaker 2: And then you get booed on your home floor because
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  Speaker 2: you weren't playing well, and you get mad about being booed,
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  Speaker 2: and then you come out and you play like a
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  Speaker 2: worse game the next day.
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  Speaker 4: I don't ride roller coasters anymore. because they hurt my
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  Speaker 4: tummy and the last time I rode one I almost
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  Speaker 4: cried but it's very similar again we're talking about a
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  Speaker 4: team that won a championship three years ago and that
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  Speaker 4: slow move up the hill the anxiety the joy that
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  Speaker 4: you're about to feel for those who like it all
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  Speaker 4: that you know exactly the sounds you know you're sitting
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  Speaker 4: next to your friend and Family member, you're like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: this is going to be great. The climb is so
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  Speaker 4: fun for a fan and for a fan base. It's
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  Speaker 4: so fun, especially when you get to the mountaintop. When
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  Speaker 4: you come down the other side and your stomach starts
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  Speaker 4: to hurt, this is me speaking. Most of you probably
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  Speaker 4: like it, and it hurts, and you feel like you're
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  Speaker 4: going to die, and you want to die. You just
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  Speaker 4: want to die. It hurts so bad. Where are we
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  Speaker 4: on that? Are we on the way down? Is this
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  Speaker 4: what it is? Is this the screaming? What, what is this?
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  Speaker 5: Well, Vic, I think in today's model.
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  Speaker 3: The screaming is the, you put your hands up and
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  Speaker 3: it's fun.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's the exit maybe for you. But again, I
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  Speaker 4: don't like.
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  Speaker 5: Coasters, but Vic today's modern sporting world. It really is
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  Speaker 5: a roller coaster from year to year. I mean, it
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  Speaker 5: really is. And you know, you, you have your highs,
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  Speaker 5: you have your lows. You can't win every damn year.
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  Speaker 5: And so I feel like what you predicted in the offseason,
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  Speaker 5: we're probably going to get this year.
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  Speaker 4: So is there a disconnect between... That's.
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  Speaker 5: What it feels like, and then some very hard decisions
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  Speaker 5: are going to have to be made.
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  Speaker 4: Is there a disconnect between fan expectation and player confidence
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  Speaker 4: right now? You know what I mean by that?
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  Speaker 5: You think the fan base expects them to be another
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  Speaker 5: 56-win team. I mean, the players inside that room, they
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  Speaker 5: say they know who they are.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Every night. I expect greatness every night. And if I
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  Speaker 4: don't get greatness every night, I want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: Is that a fair expectation or is that just being
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  Speaker 4: a normal fan?
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  Speaker 2: I know people give me grief for this a lot
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  Speaker 2: because I've done this a lot with the Broncos and
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  Speaker 2: the point of the game is to win. Why are
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  Speaker 2: you so concerned with style points? And I'm like, the
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  Speaker 2: style points come with the territory of being a championship
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  Speaker 2: level team. We've established that all three of these teams
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  Speaker 2: in town, with the exception of the Rockies, the Broncos,
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets and the Avalanche are good teams that will
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  Speaker 2: make the playoffs. And then the next question is, well,
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  Speaker 2: where does it go beyond that? That's where the style
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  Speaker 2: points in the regular season come into play.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm getting you. What if they're just not
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  Speaker 4: a championship team?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Well, then they are.
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  Speaker 5: That's fine, but they don't look like a playoff team
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  Speaker 5: right now, Vic.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, there's three games in.
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  Speaker 5: I understand that. I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 4: Deep down, that's human nature. What if they know deep down,
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  Speaker 4: damn it, we're not a championship team, and you sort
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  Speaker 4: of take shortcuts because of it. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: Do you know where I'm coming from here?
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  Speaker 5: I know what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: I would tell you that would be unethical as a professional.
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  Speaker 5: Well, let me put it this way.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm going to give you another analogy. Please do.
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  Speaker 4: You're on the golf course. You're playing your lights out.
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  Speaker 4: You are two under through nine. All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: you throw a quad on number 10. Followed by a
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  Speaker 4: triple on number 11. And that score that was all shining,
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  Speaker 4: ready to go. Now you just play the rest around.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever.
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  Speaker 4: You're not grinding anymore. The grind is gone. Do you
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  Speaker 4: see what I'm saying? The grind goes away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get paid millions to go out and
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  Speaker 3: do that.
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  Speaker 4: I understand.
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  Speaker 3: Number two, it's an individual sport.
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  Speaker 4: The only analogy I know, you keep going back, and
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  Speaker 4: rightfully so, the money's the money. You are indebted because
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  Speaker 4: of what you're getting paid to provide effort. I totally
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  Speaker 4: agree with you on that.
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  Speaker 3: But Vic, let's also say that's an individual sport.
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  Speaker 2: If it's like a Ryder Cup format, then you still
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  Speaker 2: got to go out and you got to try and
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  Speaker 2: hit a par the next hole for your teammates.
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  Speaker 4: Like, that's the thing. The only thing that, The only
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  Speaker 4: thing that bothers me so far is I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to hear the do you know who we are refrain.
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  Speaker 4: This is what we do, refrain.
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  Speaker 3: That's why the Jokic thing bothered you, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the only thing that I'm not fond of because,
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  Speaker 4: of course we know who you are. I mean, all
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  Speaker 4: the fans that have been there for the last five,
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  Speaker 4: of course they knew. I mean, do you think they're
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  Speaker 4: new to this?
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  Speaker 2: But here's a big problem with that. I mentioned this
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  Speaker 2: heading into the season with the Nuggets in particular. The
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  Speaker 2: tone in which they took. Do you remember Media Day?
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember what the Nuggets were saying at Media
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  Speaker 2: Day before a game was played? You guys pretend like
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  Speaker 2: we didn't win 54 games last year.
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  Speaker 5: Again, it was, do you know who we are?
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  Speaker 3: I don't care that you won 54 games.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I know. And that's why I'm bringing it up.
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  Speaker 4: It's the do you know who we are tone.
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  Speaker 2: To me, they're saying we won 54 games last year.
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  Speaker 2: And here's what the fan base says. care if you
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  Speaker 2: won 70 games you get bounced in the first round
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  Speaker 2: like that's unacceptable.
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  Speaker 3: You're talking to my guy all wrong it's wrong tone.
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  Speaker 2: You have the best one of the best players in
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  Speaker 2: the history of the sport a first round exit is
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  Speaker 2: nothing to brag about and i don't care what the
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  Speaker 2: regular season looked like as opposed to what the abs
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  Speaker 2: did which was a much better tone which is hey
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  Speaker 2: you guys won the president's trophy and they said we
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  Speaker 2: don't care we we didn't win the stanley cup we
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  Speaker 2: should have won a stanley cup last year and we didn't.
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  Speaker 4: The new york knicks are winless so far this year
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  Speaker 4: They're winless. They've yet to win a game. What do
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  Speaker 4: you think the refrain by fans in New York? What
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  Speaker 4: do you think they're saying on talk radio this morning?
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  Speaker 5: Well, they're not saying, hey, well, at least we won
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  Speaker 5: a championship last year. They're not saying that. They're looking
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  Speaker 5: at their record. I guarantee I know what they're saying.
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  Speaker 4: It's this. Well, human nature. You know, they want it.
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  Speaker 4: They're just not as hungry this year. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that's not just a saying. It's not just a thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's real. When When you climb to the mountaintop, man,
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  Speaker 4: it takes everything to get there. I mean, it is exhaust.
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  Speaker 4: And sometimes you just don't have that willpower to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but it's going to be 2027 in a month
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  Speaker 2: and a half. We're going to be a long time
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  Speaker 2: removed from hoisting that trophy.
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  Speaker 3: You can't use the two months, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: We're two months removed ish. From 2027.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to be almost four years from when you
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  Speaker 2: hoisted the trophy.
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  Speaker 3: You can't say the, well, I had, sorry, winner's fatigue.
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  Speaker 5: Been a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Been a long time since that happened. And the Avs,
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  Speaker 3: they're feeling the same thing, Marge. Sure they are.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Like, they're feeling the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 5: But they've all, I mean, but they also felt the
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  Speaker 5: heartache of, you know, a West final last year and
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  Speaker 5: so on.
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  Speaker 3: They.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what the answer is there, Brett. We'll
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  Speaker 5: talk to Coach about it tomorrow morning. I'm sure today
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  Speaker 5: they are going to go over everything with a fine-tooth comb.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, the film doesn't lie. So if
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  Speaker 5: you're getting beat down the ice or you're losing battles
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  Speaker 5: in the corner or you're second to every loose puck,
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  Speaker 5: you're trying to force things or you're nonchalant, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it all shows up. I think they're going to get
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  Speaker 5: a very good education on what the heck is going
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  Speaker 5: on right now.
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  Speaker 4: I never try to make things personal, and I know
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  Speaker 4: you don't either because it's a sticky job in our
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  Speaker 4: role because I'm going to hop on a plane with
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  Speaker 4: the Nuggets here in a couple hours, and they're going
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  Speaker 4: to go on a road trip, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: see these guys, and you see your guys all the time.
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  Speaker 4: But I would never say anything on the air that
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe that is being talked about in the
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  Speaker 4: room itself.
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  Speaker 5: Correct. Correct.
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  Speaker 4: You don't think David Adleman, everything I just said, you
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  Speaker 4: don't think that conversation is had after a game? 100%.
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  Speaker 4: Like what you just said about the Avs. You don't
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  Speaker 4: think tough things are being said in the rooms? They
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  Speaker 4: may not like it when we say it, but it's
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  Speaker 4: the truth because you know they're saying it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They're saying it.
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  Speaker 5: These players are not dummies. They're the ones who are
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  Speaker 5: in it, and they know. When you're in it, Brett...
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  Speaker 5: You know, if you're not feeling it or whatever the
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  Speaker 5: case may be, they know. Trust me.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of, Avs head coach Jared Bednar joins us tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: Adam Schiff is going to join us here in just
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  Speaker 2: a couple of minutes as we break down the weekend
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: that was in the NFL and some questions for Adam
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: heading into a pretty pivotal part of the calendar. NFL
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  Speaker 2: trade deadline date is set for November 10th. So just
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  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks away before some moves can be made.
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  Speaker 2: He had a hit on a Sunday countdown that I
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  Speaker 2: some names that could be on the move. So we'll
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  Speaker 3: Adam, good morning.
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  Speaker 5: How you doing?
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  Speaker 6: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: So going back to the Broncos game from last week.
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  Speaker 2: So they get a win in which it looks like
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  Speaker 2: the offense is seemingly better and more confident. The question
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  Speaker 2: now moving forward is, do you think that Jonah Coleman
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  Speaker 2: is establishing himself as the Broncos' feature back over J.K.
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  Speaker 3: Dobbins?
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  Speaker 6: I think it's early to say that. Listen, I think
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  Speaker 6: that they really like him.
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  Speaker 7: He's going to have opportunities establishing himself and actually doing
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  Speaker 7: it or two different things. He may have the opportunity
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  Speaker 7: to do that, but you've got to go do it
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  Speaker 7: over time and prove it.
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: I know they really like him. I know he's going
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: to have opportunities. Let's see where that goes.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Hey, do you think there's a degree of vindication for
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Bo Nix after the way, first of all, he had
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: that long run, and then Kansas City against that Seattle defense,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Patrick Holmes looked pedestrian at best. Does it feel better
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: knowing that maybe that was the case? Maybe it was
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: the opposition?
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: You know, here's the thing. I think that Bo Nix
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: didn't go through an offseason.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: Like, literally no work. So... The first part of the season,
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: I'm not excusing him. He didn't play well.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: But I'm just giving you some theories as to why
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: it may take a little bit of time. He doesn't
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: go through the offseason. And then they have a new
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: offensive coordinator. And then there's new terminology. And they go
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: back to Sean.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: It's Alter.
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: So he's kind of been... It hasn't exactly been stable.
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: It hasn't exactly been worked on. And again, he still
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: has to get better. I felt like on Sunday, that
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: one run.
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: That he had downfield, it almost looked like it emboldened him.
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: It made him more confident. Because I noticed after that,
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: to me, it seemed like he was, oh, I can run.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: It seemed like he was a little bit more open-minded
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: to running. It seemed like he was throwing with a
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: bit more authority. It felt like that one play, he
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: kind of fed off of that game. Now let's see
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: if he continues to feed off it going forward.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: I completely agree with you.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: As a follow-up quickly, Mark, Adam, are you being held
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: hostage in a West Texas oil field by the cartel?
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: Here's the problem. I just got done walking. I'm all sweaty.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: Want to sit there. I'm like, what's going on? Two
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: weeks before this great deadline. So this is the way
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: you got me today.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: Point twice if you're sweaty. Okay. Hey, Adam, the deals
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: in the NFL get done, obviously, in the offseason and
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: certainly around– the draft, but in season trades and trade
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: deadline trades, it's not like it would be in my league,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: the NHL where the trade deadline, you know, teams go crazy.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: Why do you, what do you think that is? Why
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: is there not as much activity around an NFL trade deadline?
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: Well, I think you're actually wrong. I think you're talking
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: to the NFL 10 years ago.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess, I guess maybe I am, but I'm,
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: I'm used to, you know, 50 guys being moved around.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: At times, you know?
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Well, hold on.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Ready?
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: So let me get you my exact numbers. They're on
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: my phone.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: I've been waiting to kind of use this. I talked
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: about it a little bit on Sunday. Let me see
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: if I can just get it up right now. But
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: I'll just say as I try to find it. And
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: let's see if I can get it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Scrolling. Scrolling.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I'm just writing down all the drunk tapes.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: Damn. We got a.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Flurry of them in a row. Are you making note
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: of that?
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: Well, anyway, here's what I do know.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: The last two years from October 1st to the trade deadline,
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: there were 18 trades each year. Over the last four
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: or five years, the league has averaged from October 1st
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: to 17 trades. I don't know how many trades you
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: want to say that it's been like the last couple
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: of years couldn't have been any busier.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: We've already gotten four trades since October 1st. J.J.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: McCarthy, Joey Porter Jr., Cam Juergens, Marvin Harrison. And I
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: think we'll definitely get more. And if the last couple
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: of years are any judge of that, I would say
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: we're looking at 10, 12 more here, at.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Least over the next two weeks.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Adam Schefter with us.
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  Speaker 2: the plaza at Johnson Auto Plaza. So on that subject, Adam,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: two weeks from now is the deadline, November 10th. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: saw you on Sunday Countdown. You were going through some
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: names that could be moved. You had Brian Thomas Jr.,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Khalil Mack, and then three different Indianapolis Colts. Do you
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: think the Colts are in for.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Making some moves to recoup some of those draft picks
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: that they traded away to get Sauce Gardner last year?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Are they going to be in the market of moving
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor or Quentin Nelson or DeForest Buckner?
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: I think some of those players will be moved. I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: not so sure that they want to move Jonathan Taylor.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: I don't think they want to.
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: Now, that doesn't mean that they won't, but I can
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: tell you that I don't think they want to trade him.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: We'll see what happens.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: Maybe they go on Sunday and lose at Jacksonville and
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: change the equation there. That could be the case, too. Um,
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: but I don't think that they're, that they'd like to
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: get rid of him. Now, Quentin Nelson, DeForest Buckner, they're
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: on expiring contracts. They're veterans on expiring contracts. When you
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: have veterans on expiring contracts and they have some trade
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: value across the league and you know, they might not
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: be back. It makes sense to explore trades and potentially
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: get something done. So I'm not going to be surprised
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: to see either of those players traded. I think there
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: are some other Colts that you could look at. Josh Downs,
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: Keenan Allen, like they could do what they want. Um,
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: here and we'll see how it plays out but i'm
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: expecting that team to be busy and have um moves.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Are most of the price tags adam are they draft
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: picks or do you see personnel swapping here near.
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: The deadline it's usually a draft pick competition particularly for
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: that they want they want they have their eye in
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: the future they're looking to get draft capital back so
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: um we'll see how that works out What's the.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Scuttlebutt surrounding J.J.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: McCarthy?
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Because he came in the previous week, played well, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I thought he made some throws at him. I'm like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: I didn't even know the kid could do that. Is
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: there a possibility that he hangs on to that gig?
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: Oh, I think there's definitely a possibility. I mean, he
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: looked great on Sunday. And if he's playing like that,
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: first of all, he's their quarterback this season. So he's
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: got an extended audition to show what he can do.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: And if he plays the way he did Sunday for
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: the rest of the year, whether it's New York or
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: somewhere else, he's going to have a starting job in
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: this league.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: So he looks fantastic. Let's see if he can keep
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: it up.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Adam, do you know any statuses?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: This is a huge game for the Broncos heading into
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: this Chiefs matchup this weekend. It's for who takes first
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: place in the AFC West.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: It is also.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: If the Chiefs win this game, they have sort of
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: a stranglehold on that division. Do you know anything about
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the statuses of Hufanga or Sertan if they will be.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Able to play?
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Sertan, I think he's got a reasonable chance to play.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: That's my understanding. And I haven't checked on Hufanga. I
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: don't think he'd been back to practice at all, right?
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: No.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: So that's not great.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: You'll get an.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: Idea tomorrow when they're out there if he's got a shot.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: Sertan.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: I think he's got a chance to play this week.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know about Chicago.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Hey, you want to hear a crazy stat you can
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: use on ESPN? I just want you to credit our show,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: and I want you to do it very loudly. But
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: here's a crazy stat for you, Adam. Brett, what was
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: that stat about Sertan missing games in the Broncos record?
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: You had it yesterday. You told us this yesterday. You
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: literally spoke it into a microphone yesterday. What kind of
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: memory do you have?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: If you remember, I was doing two jobs yesterday. There
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: was a lot of things going on. They're 7-1 without
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Pat Sertan.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: 7-1?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I thought they were undefeated.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Deadline.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I thought they were undefeated. Made it hit harder.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: No. What did you say, Adam?
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: Maybe they should trade him before the deadline.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, a follow-up question for you, Adam, because I don't
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: think this has ever happened in the history of the league.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: But if you look at the standings in the NFL
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: right now, here's what's crazy. We know that the NFC
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: East has a number of different problems. But if the
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: season ended today... Every team in the NFC North would
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: be in the playoffs, which has never happened. What are
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the odds you think that finishes this way?
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: How many teams make the playoffs again? Is it seven
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: or eight?
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Seven.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Seven.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: One by, right. So, yeah, the four division winners, three
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: wild cards. I mean, I.
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: The NFC West is going to have some say over that.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: So I would say no. They'll beat each other up
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: enough that at least one team from the NFC West
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: will get in aside from the division winner, I think.
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: But the NFC North is loaded, and it's a really
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: good division.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: What is the overall reaction to the Packers and Lions game.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: With the officiating?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I know officiating has been a big subject this year,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: but what's been sort of the talk within the ESPN
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: circles of that?
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Well, I think everybody has their own.
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: Qualms with the officiating like that they've gone overboard hasn't
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: hasn't been good officiating there are always complaints they're always
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: going to be complaints it seems like it's a bit
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: more excessive this year than ever before they're calling things
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: that a lot of people don't see a lot of
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: roughing the passers are a little bit out of control
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: you touch a guy you get a penalty of course
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: you want to protect the quarterbacks that's the flip side
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: like we haven't seen a ton of quarterback injuries and
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: that is the league's goal and that's what they're trying
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: there is to protect the quarterbacks Well.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: The Scataboo situation was not– it didn't sit well with
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Harbaugh either, did it?
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: When he fumbled last year?
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, with the crown of his helmet, the
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: penalty that he got with the crown of his helmet.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: He's like, what am I supposed to do?
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, that's the case in some of these calls.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: You're like– I mean, it's football still. Like, guys hit
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: each other. And, you know, sometimes they're calling things, and
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: it's hard to avoid. Like, yeah, it's just– look, I
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: want to say this. Like, I think these officials– The
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: speed at which these guys move, the size they are,
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: the amount of calls they get right is incredible.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: Like, it's very impressive. But there have been some glaring misses.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: And when that happens, everything comes under scrutiny and some
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: of the good work doesn't get noticed.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I was just reading an article, by the way, Adam,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: about Tom Brady's in sort of a weird spot because
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: he was calling that Green Bay game and he was
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: sort of calling out officiating, but he is a part
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: owner of the league. And I know there's like this...
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: rule about owners speaking about officiating. Is that anything that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: the NFL is truly concerned with, with him having that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: broadcasting gig?
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: I don't think so.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: Like I think Tom Brady calls it like he sees it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: He didn't say anything that anybody else wasn't thinking. It
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: wasn't like, Oh, Oh, I didn't realize those are questionable calls.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: I mean, everybody could see it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: He's, he's speaking the truth.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: And that's his job. So I, I know, I know
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: there are all sorts of conspiracy theorists out there and everything. So, um,
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: But I don't think that that was an issue. To me,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: it was not an issue.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Final question for you, Adam.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Are you going to be best friends with Jay-Z before
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: you guys host that Super Bowl or what?
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: How's that going to work?
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: We might. I mean, you know, he might want me
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: to perform at halftime. It's possible. Like, we haven't heard
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: the end of that story yet. We'll see.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Where'd you get the Dallas basketball shirt?
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: I had a buddy that used to coach there, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: he sent me shirts at one point in time.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Oh. We'll send you a Nuggets basketball shirt.
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: By the way, Vic, I got no Nuggets gear.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, is that?
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, that is him telling us he needs Nuggets gear. Okay.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: By the way, we are on an altitude station, right?
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay. We'll take care of it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Mosher will buy it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: I got you. I got it taken care of.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Done.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: You got it taken care of? It shouldn't be very hard, right?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: No.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: I will proudly wear it on air. Right?
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: So.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Like I would love some nuggets, uh, the long sleeve shirts,
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: short sleeve shirts, L top.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Great. First, we got to get you out of that prison.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: Hey, my life is a prison, right? I'm a hostage
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: to the NFL news that it goes on around the clock.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Adam Schefter joined us every single week. Appreciate it, Adam.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Guys, have a great week. Thank you.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: See you, man.
• 28:28
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• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Do you guys remember that scene from Landman? Maybe it's
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: the opening scene where he's in that box trailer and
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: he's been taken hostage by the cartel. And he's in
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: there just like, what am I supposed to do now?
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't watch Landman.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, you didn't watch Landman?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I know, I know. The basic scenes you're talking about.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: You've been taken hostage by the cartel before?
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Of course I have, yeah.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: Of course.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Mosher, tell me you've watched Landman.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: Of course.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Tommy Norris is one of my favorite dudes.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you something, by the way. You said
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that I gave you a Sertan stat from yesterday. I'm
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: not saying that I didn't. I'm saying I have, when
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I say zero recollection of any... When you said that
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to me... Total deer in the headlights.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: It might have been before I got on, but I
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: didn't hear that stat yesterday at all.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I was shocked when you gave us the stat. Maybe
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: it wasn't even you. Somebody did.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm starting to get scared a little bit because
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: this is what happened to me this weekend.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: We were at a friend's house. They have a kid.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Who was doing a fundraiser for school. He has no
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Otis Spunkmeyer cookies, whatever. Sure, yeah. So part of the
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: fundraiser was you buy the cookie dough from them for
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: X amount of dollars and they get whatever. But my
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: wife bought these, I guess, two weeks ago. So we
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: go to their house this weekend. And the next day,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I get up, walk to the kitchen and she's got
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: a box on the counter. And she goes, you left
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: these in your car last night.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I go, what? She goes, the cookie dough you left.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: And I looked at her and I go, honey, I
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: have no idea what those are. I don't remember putting
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: anything in my car. I don't have any recollection of
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: anything that you're telling me right now. She goes, the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: cookie dough.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: From last night. I don't know what cookie dough you're
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: talking about. I'm starting to get scared. My mind's going.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll, Yesterday, I'll give you some grace.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Did I have a few whiskeys that night?
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Not that many.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I'll give you grace because yesterday you were doing three
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: people's job at once. That's true.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I'm getting scared, though.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Hey, as far as the trades are concerned as well,
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: I guess Adam is right. There's more now in the
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: NFL than there used to be. But when I talk
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: about my league, like on trade deadline day, Vic, on
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: that day. Well, there's typically at least 20 trades in
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: one day.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: And sometimes more than that. In the timeframe he's talking,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: and well, the final week leading up to the trade deadline,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: there's typically 35 to 40 trades in a week. And
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: he's talking about, you know, average of 17 from October
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: 1st to the trade deadline in November. That's like a
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: month and a half. I'm like, well, I'm used to like,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: you know, 20 trades today by noon. You know, that's
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: where my mind goes. So it always seems like it's less.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Nellie, be honest. All right. I know we're supposed to
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: be professional here and we're talking football and getting some insight,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: but Nellie, If you didn't mark down the bountiful drunk
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: take content that you got in maybe like three sentences there,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: you don't know what you're doing. Tell me you found it.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Tell me you heard what I heard.
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: Do you hear what I hear? Are you saying what
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: Mosher just said right there?
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: No, no, when we were talking to Adam.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Did you?
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Did you guys get it?
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Now you're freaking out, Nelly.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: See?
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: I did make a note of Adam Schefter.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Is everybody just dumb today?
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: I did make a note of Schefter going full Mosier
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: and scrolling for a stat he tried to find for
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: two minutes and never finding it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: This is the only thing.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: That Adam missed.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: If you go back, if you go back, during that
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: whole episode, there were three straight drunk takes that were
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: just phenomenal. Phenomenal.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: All Adam was missing to go full Mosier? on his
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: scrolling was this. As he scrolls, he goes.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: That's all he was missing was that sound.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: That's not really how you do it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: You do it like this.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Adam Schefter joins us every single Tuesday at 9.20.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: So....
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: No games tonight, but take one last look at the
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: game last night from the Nuggets, and we'll do it next.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess maybe I am, but I'm used to,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: you know, 50 guys being moved around at times, you know?
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Well, hold on.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Ready?
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: So let me get you my exact numbers. They're on
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: my phone. I've been waiting to kind of use this.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: I talked about it a little bit on Sunday.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Let me see if I can just get it up
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Pause.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Pause.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I didn't pick up on that at all. Not at all.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: Let me see if I can just get it up right.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: You want to tell everybody what you told me last
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: night about my nephew's bird? You want to tell everybody
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: what you said last night about my nephew's bird?
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I tried to hint at that earlier in the show.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: You weren't picking up on it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Well, my car goes into the shop today, Vic. Remember the,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: you fix it. My car goes into the shop today.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: That isolated, the isolated chapter is really funny. Really funny.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: At least if I could just get it up right now.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, God. Oh, God. You know what?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I was thinking about this during the break. And I
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: need to say this. Because a lot of people... Always
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: bring this up. And I make the mistake sometimes during
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: a football game I'm watching, I tweet something like, oh,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: the run game isn't working. Then all of a sudden
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: they explode and people come back later, huh, care to
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: change your tone now? And it applies to our jobs
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: in sports talk. We can only react in the moment
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: because this is all we have. So if in the moment,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: if at the moment, There's not much to be positive
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: about or you're seeing something that's not working. You can
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: only react to that moment. Now, if things change and
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: a team figures it out, you look like an idiot
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: in the moment. But what else are we supposed to
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: talk about? So if I say to you, if I
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: say to you, I don't like what the Nuggets are
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: doing right now. It doesn't look right. Or I don't
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: like what the ads are doing right now. It doesn't
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: look right. And others say, well, it's it's early. But
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: all I can give you, my only opinion I can
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: give you is what I see now. That's all I
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: can give you.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: That's all I got.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: The I told you so crowd that especially does this thing.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: It's funny.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: The I told you so people don't ever say I
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: messed up.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: That's what's great.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: And I try as best I can, although I'm guilty
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: as anybody. to not get caught up in the moment
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: of things and have perspective and all that stuff. The
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: reasons why I think the beginning of this Nugget season
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: feels different is because of the way that last season ended.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: When you fail to.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Reach your goal, And you identify reasons as to why
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: you didn't reach the goal. And then when you come
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: back around and the new season starts, you want to
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: see if those things are fixed. And through three games,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: they just don't look fixed yet. And so what else
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: am I supposed to do?
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: They look worse?
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Again, I can only compare it to what we've gone through.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: The Knicks fans right now are probably beside themselves because
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: they've yet to win a game, but they just won
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: a championship. So that glee, that honeymoon, it lingers, right?
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: I guarantee they're not as distressed right now, even though
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: they're winless. They're just not.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: And that's just the nature of the situation.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, dude, Miami just traded for Giannis this offseason in
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: their 0-4.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: True.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: They are. I'm sure they aren't happy either.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Bam ain't playing well.
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: Toronto.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Toronto just traded for Kawhi, and I don't know if
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: you guys have seen this yet. Kawhi is going to
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: miss now multiple weeks with a knee sprain.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about the injuries that we've seen already.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Devastating injuries to big-time players, and we didn't even talk
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: about this yesterday because the news happened after our show.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma City, in one fell swoop, loses two starters. They
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: lose for the season. Jalen Williams, we know about that.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: But then I had no idea that Cason Wallace's injury
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: was so severe. He tore his labrum. So two starters out.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Boom.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Changes everything. Changes the West. And maybe that's what even
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: makes this more pressing about the Nuggets. Because the Fates
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: just said, here you go.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Right? Pretty much, yeah.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but then the Thunder win last night.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Well, if there's ever a team that could absorb losses,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: because not only do they have a bench that runs
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: 85 deep, they also have 180 first-round picks waiting for them.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Those are big losses, though. It's a big-time play. But
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: the Nuggets do lose. They start the season 1-2. Are
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: we going to get our first Double Dipperoo of the
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: year tomorrow? Looks like we are.
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: Double Dipperoo.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Is that Juice? Still Juice from back in the day?
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: No, that's Jonas Valanciunas. This is Juice.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Double Dipperoo.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Hopefully those guys. I mean, our two best Double Dipperoo's
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: are two guys that's no longer here.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Friggin' Juice, man. What? I mean, the Avs needed to
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: put more on him the other night.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: They really did.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: They needed to put more on Anand the other night.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I need one of these teams to step up and
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: do something today. Or tomorrow. I need to feel good
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: about something. Look, the Avs have done that. They have
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: played games this year where you're like, okay, I'm down
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: with that. That's a good performance. Everything looks right.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: But then they've had the.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: almost inexplicable games where they look terrible.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Well, let me take a look at something real quick.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: They only had 21 shots on goal the other night,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: which is, for the Colorado Avalanche, that's absolutely crazy. Now,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: they've dipped to number two in the league in goals
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: per game. Coming off that two-goal performance, Edmonton leads at 4.25.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: The Avs were basically four and a half goals per.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: Game, man.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: They were leading the league. That wasn't the issue putting
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: the puck in the back of the net. It was
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: keeping it out of your net.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Net at times.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Rush coverage, defensive zone coverage, you know, on any given play,
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: the penalty kill, whatever it may be. And they just, they.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: They didn't throw the puck at the net the other night.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: So the last time they had one game last year
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: in which they had less shots on goal, and that
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: was Ottawa. They only had 18 shots against them in
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: January of last year.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: That was a 5-2 loss.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: So if you've got to go back like a year.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: And they had a playoff game against Vegas. They had
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: a game where they had 21 shots.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, it's really, really out of the norm, right?
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Fix it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: You fix it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what's happening today.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: You fix it.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: That's going in. Going in the shop.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: So 303-504-0925.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: $ 10 Tuesday at Papa Murphy's.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Any large pizza.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: It's just $ 10. You can order at PapaMurphy's.com. Pick it
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: up and bake it fresh at home. So a lot
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: to discuss as we head into tomorrow. Now, again, I'll
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: remind you guys. I know it's only Tuesday. We have
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: a lot more time to get into this. This game
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: this weekend for the Broncos is huge. This is the
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: difference between you having a chance to win the AFC
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: West and likely being so far behind at this juncture
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: of the season, it would take a monumental climb to
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: get back into it. If the Chiefs beat you and
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: they move to 6-1 with two wins over you specifically
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: and 4-0 to start in the division, they are running
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: away with this division.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: But their schedule is going to get exponentially more difficult
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: and yours is going to get exponentially easier.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Which leads to.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: You're flipping the script on the schedule, so it tells
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: me even if they lose this game, I think there's
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: going to be ample opportunity to get back on top
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: of them.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: You'll be two games back, and they'll have the two
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: wins against you, but they've got some difficult games coming up.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: You've done your gauntlet. Their gauntlet's just starting.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to find... You know what? I want to see.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a site that has... I know
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: there's one because I've seen it before. where they talk
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: about percentage chances of you winning the division and whatever.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I just feel like this is a monumental shift in
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: the AFC West going either way. Like with a Chiefs win,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: this thing just becomes crazy to try and get back
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: in it. And Nellie, I had you try and look
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: this up earlier. I don't know if you found anything
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: or not either, but the Chiefs right now are sitting at,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: you know, a 30% chance to make the conference championship
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: is what it says. And I only would think that
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: that goes higher and higher with a win this weekend
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: over the Broncos. Now, the good news, if you guys
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: missed it, we just talked to Adam Schefter. He thinks,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: didn't say definitively, but he thinks.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Pat Sertan's going to be back in the lineup this weekend.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, you can stumble your way through. Well,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: not even stumble. They've done a good job. But against
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: the Cardinals, it's not quite as imperative to have him
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: back as it would be when you're facing Mahomes, right?
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: In theory.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah. They also, the Chiefs, by the way, they also
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: have their own fair share of injuries. They're dealing with
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: guys who are banged up, too. So it's not just one-sided.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: I think Rasheed Rice is questionable, if I'm not mistaken.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: You know what I wonder? I wonder what happens.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: The tackle's still out.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Can we all agree Jadé Barron's played pretty good in
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: the absence of Patrick Stanton?
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: You know what? That's a great point. What's lost in
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: this whole thing is the depth at that position. Man,
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: it is solid.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: So him and Abrams Drain have played great. Sertan gets healthy.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Now you're back to Sertan, Riley Moss.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: And Jaquan.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: They got some big decisions to make.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Do they just not play Jadé Barron and Chris Abrams
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Drain again?
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. They've got big decisions to make
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: because Riley Moss' contract is coming up.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I still think Riley Moss is really good. But if
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: you think that you need to skimp out on a
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: price somewhere because everybody's getting paid big-time contracts, Jaday Barron
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: and Chris Abrams-Drain, the way that they've played over the
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: last three weeks, makes you feel a lot better that
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: if Riley Moss walks in free agency that you got
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: something to cover your ass.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Like, makes you feel a lot better about it. Now,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Riley Moss is clearly still a very, very good corner.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Very good. But do you go back.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: To Jaday Barron playing, you know, 90% of the snaps
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to him playing 5% again?
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Is that just that fast?
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: Hey, if there's no room at the end, there may
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: not be any room at the end.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you weren't taking Jaquan out. Jaquan's amazing.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: He's playing great.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: What I'm asking is, do they maybe give some guys
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: some touches to give?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe you give Riley Moss a few snaps to breathe
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and then throw him back in.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Or do you just go full bore back into it?
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: That's what I don't know. But bottom line is.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Well, the bottom line is when they've gotten the opportunity,
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: they've proven themselves. And I think that's probably... I mean,
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: I'm sure Sean Payton is like, okay, we're good, we're good.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Teams can't find a starting corner that they trust or
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: two starting corners.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: You've got five that you can just throw out there.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: The trade deadline, it's a risk to let go of
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: that depth. It's a risk. But what if you can
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: get something on the offensive side that really helps you now.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: That would be, if you're doing that for a player,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: you aren't doing that for a pick. You're trying to win.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Saquon!
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: Saquon!
• 45:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Anyway, 303-504-0925. Fact checker, please.
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• 45:27
  Speaker 9: Vic, you are our show's resident expert on metaphors, similes,
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: all sort of.
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: illusions like that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: So here's something that Brett said, easy for me to say,
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: in the appetizer hour.
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: I don't want to get your ruling on it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Part of your job as a coach is you have
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: to deal with personalities and you have to keep all
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: of your ducks in a row. And you can't have
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: some of these chickens wandering off the reservation.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with that?
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: How much foul are you going to put into your.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: How many different.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Images are you going to give us that? You can't
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: strangle the goose that lays the golden egg.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Ducks, chickens, and reservations.
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: Vic, have you ever been down to the Redbird Farms res?
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Jesus.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Makes total sense to me. I mean, what am I
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: going to do here?
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Nobody keeps ducks all together.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: You know, I wish I had a duck.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, I keep the ducks in the chicken coop at
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: the reservation.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind having a duck.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Fortunate for you, Moj, you got a parakeet right now.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: And I know where you can put it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: It's so typical of Moj. Hey, Brett, if there's anyone
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: on this show who would have a pet parakeet, who
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: would it be?
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: Not me, man.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Who would it be?
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: They're loud.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: If I got a buddy that says, hey, man, I'm
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: going out of town for a bit, can you keep
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: my parakeet at your house?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: You know what I say?
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: No.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: No.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: It's my family.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: It's a bird. That bird is not your family. You
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: know what, Moshe?
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: You could have left the thing at his house and
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: just showed up every once in a while and said,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: here's a worm.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Instead, Moshe goes home to.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: iTunes, Spotify, Moslem Bar.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: You know what I do? I got my iPad. I
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: put the iPad on a parakeet player.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: He plays parakeet YouTube videos to make him not feel alone.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: You've got to be kidding me. I don't want him.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: To die on me, man. Leave an animal in your
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: care and it dies on you.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Holly, want a cracker? All right. Have a great day.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: Love you.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: See you.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Part of your job as a coach is you have
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: to deal with personalities and you have to keep all
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: of your ducks in a row. And you can't have
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: some of these chickens wandering off the reservation.