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All women love women, women most affected | Maintaining Frame 170 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian. I'm here with Allison and this is maintaining
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  Speaker 1: frame number one seventy. All men love women, women most effective,
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  Speaker 1: All women.
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  Speaker 2: Love all women love women.
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  Speaker 1: All women love women, women most affected, most affected.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if we'll ever get we'll ever find the
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  Speaker 3: bottom of this barrel of women most affected? No, women
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  Speaker 3: women most affected?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, women exist, women most affected. I mean we already
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  Speaker 1: We're already at men exist, women most affected.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, why not? I mean men exist. I applies
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  Speaker 3: the existence of another, which implies that women are most
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  Speaker 3: infected by the existence of the other that is not men.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's true. So we're gonna be We got
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  Speaker 1: the request, well, yeah, got.
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  Speaker 3: A couple more requests from from Richard He and then
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  Speaker 3: also later on we're going to look at the whole
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  Speaker 3: I need to get like a shortened URL for that,
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  Speaker 2: We have four.
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  Speaker 3: Hundred and twenty dollars left as of now, and would
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  Speaker 3: be really nice to get that funded so that Brian
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  Speaker 3: is you know, this might affect his ability to attend
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  Speaker 3: certain conventions well Badger related events, so it'd be great
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  Speaker 3: to get that help fixed for him. It's essentially he
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  Speaker 3: hit a deer. If you're wonder where.
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  Speaker 1: Deer the deer. I didn't hit a deer, I'm serious,
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  Speaker 1: doing the speed I was looking out, but where it happened,
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  Speaker 1: a deer just jumped on top, like basically on top
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  Speaker 1: of the car.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just like I don't want to live anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Goodbye crue world fling. Yeah, No, I believe it because
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  Speaker 3: we've had close encounters of the deer kind. Not not like,
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  Speaker 3: not to that degree, but the deer they have a
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  Speaker 3: death wish. Those deer, they do, and they're going to
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  Speaker 3: they're going to bring you into their death wish and
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  Speaker 3: and they'll do that, uh, no matter what your intentions
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  Speaker 3: or desires are. So I believe it. And plus we
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  Speaker 3: we are you know, everything in Saskatchewan or most things
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  Speaker 3: in Saskatchewan, we have a wide field of view. We
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  Speaker 3: get a lot of advanced warning if anything is coming
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  Speaker 3: towards the car. But in Virginia lots of windy roads
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  Speaker 3: and thickets to hide deer who no longer wish to
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  Speaker 3: be in this world. So I believe it. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I made it visible in the
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  Speaker 3: the discord. It's and just general announcements. So there you go. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 3: Canada has a moose problem. Night Motorcycle says yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: if you stay away from the moose where the moose are,
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  Speaker 3: moose generally don't come to us. They don't start things.
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  Speaker 3: Moose they'll end things, but they don't start things unless
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  Speaker 3: you come really close to them, and then which case
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  Speaker 3: they figure you started it. So okay, speaking of starting things.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, let's get into this queer keywing video called all
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  Speaker 1: Women Love Women Are Suddenly Gay. So what summary is
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  Speaker 1: that queer key we went to She basically peruses Reddit
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  Speaker 1: to get her content. Yeah, there's a reddit called suddenly
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  Speaker 1: Gay and so she goes there and explores queer humor
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  Speaker 1: and accidental revelations. So I get Let's play a bit
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  Speaker 1: of the intro. Richard Bierre gives us five dollars to
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  Speaker 1: see it says, at least Rainbow Shite isn't talking about
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  Speaker 1: Cooter Muffins.
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  Speaker 3: I guess why do you bring this? Okay, no, I
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  Speaker 3: know why for that reaction? Probably yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You give him what he wants every time. All right,
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  Speaker 1: So let's play it.
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  Speaker 4: Free things, guys, girls, no matter repals, And welcome to
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  Speaker 4: another fun short video that I enjoy making and I
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  Speaker 4: hope you enjoy watching. And today we're doing something that,
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  Speaker 4: for some reason, I've never done before, which is astounding
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  Speaker 4: considering how long I've been making content and how much
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  Speaker 4: of my content used to revolve around this sort of content.
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  Speaker 4: And that is going through the subreddit oh slash suddenly Gay.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea how I've not made a video
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  Speaker 4: about this before. I have no idea why I've not
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  Speaker 4: made a video about this before. But I had a
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  Speaker 4: lot of fun going through the subreddit, and I hope
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  Speaker 4: you have a lot of fun looking at what I
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  Speaker 4: found with me.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Just that's her like laying out her big idea.
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  Speaker 1: So let's jump into when we get into the that
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  Speaker 1: was a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of words to say I found some cancer in our
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  Speaker 3: suddenly gay. You could have just could just you know,
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  Speaker 3: that was like five seconds. I think we just went
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  Speaker 3: through thirty Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So here's she thanks her patrons, of which
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  Speaker 1: he has a lot, which start saying about the actual
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  Speaker 1: date of people today.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so let's get into some people being suddenly gay
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  Speaker 4: and went right shag.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's spelled I know they's supposed to be shagged,
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  Speaker 1: but that's literally spelled shagged. Sorry, just misspelling.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, it's just like Zoomers realizing their parents were people
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  Speaker 3: or something and they actually had a life before they
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  Speaker 3: they existed, like their parents had a life before the
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  Speaker 3: Zoomers existed. John Brian's just shaking this. Okay, what is
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  Speaker 3: her conclusion from this?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure a sense that it might be anti mail,
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  Speaker 3: but we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: H so funny, but also suh use protection like that
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  Speaker 4: implies that he was all so not safe while having
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  Speaker 4: sex with men, and sir, you absolutely should have been
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  Speaker 4: using protection for both any encounters with men and women
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  Speaker 4: pregnancy still should not.
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  Speaker 1: It was a joke, Yeah, I think it was.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't think that he intended that to
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  Speaker 3: be taken as a literal confession of his safe sex practices.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, surely, surely this is justified.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is super serious all the time when I want
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  Speaker 1: it to be.
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  Speaker 3: I just love this flag because you know that they
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  Speaker 3: are creating so many lines and colors and symbols, and
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  Speaker 3: what they really want to say is that this is
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  Speaker 3: the no men club and this is the scapegoating men club.
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  Speaker 3: So why don't they just have like a Like they
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  Speaker 3: could just simplify this completely and just have like a
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  Speaker 3: male symbol with a.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they've even figured out that's what it
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  Speaker 1: really means yet. I mean, I'm if you debated someone
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  Speaker 1: like this, they would say, no, this is an ex
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  Speaker 1: scluting men. So I don't think they even know they
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  Speaker 1: they are. They're just they just like how special it
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  Speaker 1: makes them feel.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, of course, even even as they say things like
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  Speaker 3: gay men or the straight men of gay people, black
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  Speaker 3: men or the white men of black people, and trans
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  Speaker 3: met whoops, trans trans women are the trans men of
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  Speaker 3: trans people.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that one's that one's a bit trickier, I think,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that that's why there's a big split
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  Speaker 1: between turfs and intersectionals.
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  Speaker 3: I just wish they would I just wish they would
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  Speaker 3: come out with it. You know, they just be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: everybody but the penis people. We like everybody but the
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  Speaker 3: penis people, and we mostly just advocate for these people
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  Speaker 3: so that we can be meaner to the penis people. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: let's uh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 4: I respect this way, just coming out like.
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  Speaker 1: Dealing with calf things.
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  Speaker 4: I can only imagine the look this person's face. Planny
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  Speaker 4: was met with this. Imagine coming out to your dad
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  Speaker 4: and you're like, I'm by I'm attracted to men and women.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care about the gender of the people I date,
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  Speaker 4: and your dad just looks at me and go, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I used to fuck a lot of men. What do
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  Speaker 4: you How do you do you respond to that?
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  Speaker 1: You kind of I thought we were supposed to just
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  Speaker 1: be sort of genetically supportive of whatever people do. It's
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  Speaker 1: like post sexual liberation, you understand why this is a problem.
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  Speaker 1: You're supposed to just be blanketly supportive, no matter what
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  Speaker 1: I thought.
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  Speaker 3: The complaint is that her father has stolen her thunder.
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  Speaker 1: I guess also he basically didn't didn't didn't respond, get
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  Speaker 1: a very strong reaction, So she wanted to shock her father.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah probably, And he was like okay, and that's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Not surprising. I think a lot a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: people do stuff like that because they're hoping to get
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  Speaker 1: a reaction, and then they don't get a reaction because
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't like it, not at the point where that's
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  Speaker 1: shocking anymore. And then they get upset that there's no
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  Speaker 1: reaction because that was the whole point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, It's like on wen or Monday, we talked
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  Speaker 3: about these people who we were talking about, a scary,
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  Speaker 3: scary skeleton woman, femtour queen. Yeah, j yeah, I like
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  Speaker 3: I prefer scary skeletor women.
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  Speaker 1: And skeletor is that a whole other level, a whole
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  Speaker 1: other level beyond her, But yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay Bizarrow Wednesday, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But Bizarrow Wednesday, okay, well Bizarrow Wednesday essentially is talking
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  Speaker 3: about how people are offended by individuals who go out
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  Speaker 3: of their way to do things that are offensive or
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  Speaker 3: like out of the norm or shocking. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, for sure, you can do those things, but
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  Speaker 3: people are going to be shocked if you intend to
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  Speaker 3: shock them, right, you know that that's what's going to happen,
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  Speaker 3: And and then they'll do this, and then they'll they'll
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  Speaker 3: look at the reactions of people being shocked or offended
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  Speaker 3: by the things that they did in order to be
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  Speaker 3: shocking and offensive, and they'll say, look at the society
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  Speaker 3: that we are in, look at it. It is so wrong, right,
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  Speaker 3: And but if there is no reaction, look at the
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  Speaker 3: society we're in, it is wrong. You just can't don't play.
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  Speaker 1: We're running there were We're quickly running out of ways
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  Speaker 1: for people to stand out that the the the snowflakes
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  Speaker 1: are starting to look the same mm hmm. And they
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  Speaker 1: were they are snowflakes, but now they're not as special,
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  Speaker 1: and so that's a problem because they can't like this
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  Speaker 1: is why when we talked about it, I talked about
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  Speaker 1: how when I was little, you know, when I was
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  Speaker 1: a kid growing up, a tattoo, just one was like
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  Speaker 1: a huge deal because you didn't see it. Now you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't see it, it's kind of a big deal. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So like this woman she's trying to put every color
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  Speaker 1: of the rainbow in her hair, and like it gets
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  Speaker 1: no reaction because it's like, okay, whatever, Like once upon
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  Speaker 1: a time that would have been like shocking, But we're
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  Speaker 1: running out of ways for shock. We're running out of well,
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  Speaker 1: we're running out of ways for people who otherwise wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be very interesting to make themselves interesting, because that's usually
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  Speaker 1: what it's like, a cover for something that they lack,
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  Speaker 1: or at least something they think they lack, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in place of a personality, I will apply like crazy
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  Speaker 1: hair colors and wild piercings and like new ways to
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  Speaker 1: shock and awe people when they look at me on
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  Speaker 1: the street, which was like the whole drama queen thing.
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  Speaker 1: And another way is to be like, hey, guys, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like I'm like by and people are supposed to be like, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy, but nobody does that now because it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so what that's like. That's actually kind of problematic because
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  Speaker 1: being bisexuals suggests that there are two genders, So we
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  Speaker 1: have a problem here, right, So like you can't like
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  Speaker 1: even there's there's nothing thing new under the sun. It's
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  Speaker 1: all been done now, so it's time to like, i
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like actually be interesting, like learn a skill,
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  Speaker 1: read a book, you know, be able to hold a
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  Speaker 1: conversation and don't just be like hey dad, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: I think I like girls too, and then he's like, eh,
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  Speaker 1: because it's it is old hat, so yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It might have been it might have been controversial when
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  Speaker 3: he was liking men, you know, twenty years ago or how.
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  Speaker 2: Long it was.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like they missed out on that. Like back in
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  Speaker 1: the day, maybe that was a big deal, but now
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  Speaker 1: it's not, and it's like, oh, well, where's my struggle,
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  Speaker 1: where's my heroine fight?
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  Speaker 3: You know, well, maybe you need to start thinking about
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  Speaker 3: yourself in terms of your action. There's your heroic fight,
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  Speaker 3: fight against the monsters from your own d Yeah, become
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  Speaker 3: a better person instead of just defining yourself by ridiculous
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  Speaker 3: categories that you make up in many cases, Okay, let's
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  Speaker 3: uh r more rainbow rainbow.
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  Speaker 1: Individual rainbow shite.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, a little bit too much information there, but
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  Speaker 4: like that's hilarious. I would I don't know what is
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  Speaker 4: too much or just be like and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of weird because like this is literally are suddenly gay.
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  Speaker 1: You'd think that there's probably some sexual content, that that's
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  Speaker 1: the whole, but it seems to be a problem because
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  Speaker 1: of the father, because it's her father.
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  Speaker 3: That's why why are you having a scream? Rainbow. Is
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  Speaker 3: that some unexamined homophobia. Okay, well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't be comfortable with my parents telling
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  Speaker 1: me about their sexual adventures. I don't want to know
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  Speaker 1: that about my parents. I know they had sex because
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, but like I don't want my mom to
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  Speaker 1: tell me the story or that her that she went
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  Speaker 1: through a by phase or something. I think that is
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  Speaker 1: just in general, but maybe because like I'm speaking.
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  Speaker 2: For myself, the daughter right, this is no, No, she's not.
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  Speaker 1: She's a third party.
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  Speaker 3: She's a third party saying oh, well it's good there.
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  Speaker 3: Or the girl came out as by but male bisexuality.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it's too much information for me. Oh yeah, maybe Okay,
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  Speaker 3: it's because there's you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, great pen people involved.
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  Speaker 4: Glad we had this chat because that's hilarious. That's so funny, brilliant,
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  Speaker 4: ten out of ten, happy pride, not to him. Indeed,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying Wanda cheated, but Wanda cheated, and it's
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  Speaker 4: wander from failure of parents. And then that guy that
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember, but whom is like her ex and
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  Speaker 4: he's like in love with her.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. Well, I don't know what this is?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that do.
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  Speaker 3: Tumblr fan crap? Is there some good stuff in here? Maybe?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Right, sorry that I asked it a possible question.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just just let's go through.
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  Speaker 3: Your time, coachs Yeah, let me just lay that question.
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  Speaker 2: Delay that question?
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  Speaker 1: Well I will. Can I just ask Richard a question?
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  Speaker 1: I'm being serious? Okay, when you these videos, do you
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  Speaker 1: watch them or do you just pick them because it
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  Speaker 1: has people in it that you know that we don't
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  Speaker 1: like or that we might have a reaction to. Because
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  Speaker 1: I feel like when the no, because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: when the video is shared, I presume that there's the
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  Speaker 1: hope that there's something in it that we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to that he wants to hear our opinion on. But
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  Speaker 1: just some like terminally online reddit person saying Reddit things.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have anything to add except okay,
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  Speaker 1: retard like I don't. I don't. You know. So if
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  Speaker 1: you like, are suddenly gay and you're just laughing at
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  Speaker 1: the content on there, I don't know. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you're being It's like being over some stranger's house and
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: they say, come over here, let me show you some
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  Speaker 1: stuff on my computer, and they show you a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of boring websites you've never been to because you've never
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  Speaker 1: been inclined to go there. And so I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm there's something I'm supposed to be doing, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what it is. So I'm grasping, you know,
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm I just want to know. If Richard
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mind, just tell me. Is there something in here
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  Speaker 1: that is important? So I don't spend an hour looking
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  Speaker 1: at this video.
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  Speaker 3: Does she at any point talk about women becoming gay
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  Speaker 3: because of the horribleness of men?
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  Speaker 1: I don't, No, I don't think so, all right, let's
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  Speaker 1: just go through your time. I mean there is a
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  Speaker 1: cultural commentary masculinity section. Yeah, but let's watch this, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and let's just watch this. This is canon.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: So sorry, Wanda, I apologize that I'm sorry I had
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: to find out this way. At least once a month,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I think about the girl from my high school ap
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: psych class who is like, we shouldn't allow gay people
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: to get married because then all of the girls would
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: want to marry a girl, and the population would die
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: out because we would all want to marry girls. Right,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry that you had to find out this way,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: But no, no, no, that's not true. This is the thing, right,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: And I see like lesbians talk about this in which
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: a lot of lesbians are culture and idea around, like
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: women are so pretty women, a beautiful old women, a
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: gray or women beautiful and mineral pigs and sex with
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: men is boring and bad and they don't care about us,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: and we don't really care about them. We just tolerate them.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: And I've seen that that whole idea that comes from
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of women makes a lot of lesbians think
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: that the way they feel about men is just house
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: straight women feel about men, which you know, fair enough,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: I understand.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Wait wait a second, wait a second, wait.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: So all lesbians, I think men don't care about and
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: they're boring, and I mean, you don't have to just
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: regard men is sexually interesting, to regard men as human
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: beings that you could have platonic relationships with.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: You.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Did you just see what she glossed over there? Lesbian
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: tite men? Really all of them? Okay, And I guess
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I'm the I'm the lesbian of phobe. What yeah, all right, okay,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: lesbian all okay, we've heard it from brain brow.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if your exposure to lesbians is Reddit,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: then yeah, they we do.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's all right in not realizing that you're lesbian.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: And I feel like it really did a number on
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: this Kelly here in the similar way of like being like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: we all just marry men because we have to, right,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: that's just like what we were told to do. No
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: one really likes men. We all appreciate how wonderful and
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: beautiful and brilliant women are. Obviously we can all agree
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: on that, and a lot of straight women do speak
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: like that. So I understand how you may have gotten confused.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: And I hope so women and men were getting together
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: because they were told to. There was no other there
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: was no other factors at play through all of human history.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Women were just with men because they were told that
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you were supposed to do that. Wow, I feel so
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: lucky to be alive. Then, I mean, if it weren't
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: for somebody telling my mom that she was supposed to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: have babies with my father, she probably wouldn't have And
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: then are the human race would just be extinct? Gosh,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I wonder why there's so much nihilism in the world
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: where I don't know I think it's gonna be like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: something something queer women are best women or something.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, and I hope.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: She's doing well, has come to terms with her sexuality
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: and has settled down. My girlfriend put makeup on me.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: For Halloween, and when we missed something, did we skip something.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Or let me just go back a little bit? No,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: she just said, I he you know, figures it out.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: She just basically left it hanging.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Times with her sexuality and has settled down because because
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: she's ingested all of this antimail crap.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like to bring this up.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I did look at the statistics. Lesbians have the highest
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: rate of divorce, and lesbians and gay couples tend to
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: marry at the same rate, so they do have the
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: highest rate of divorce. Then had her sexual couples, although
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a statistical chinery there, but
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: and then gay couples. Maybe it's not men, just just
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: a possibility. It's a possibility. Okay.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: My boyfriend's main top all nice and good and about himself,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: and he got.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: A compliment with out fingers. But like, I mean what
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: he fingered me? Like, okay, well he said, come over here.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: What did he do his ear his nostral like what, okay,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: whatever stimulation. By the way, I think you should take
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: this with a grain of.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Assault, grain of salt, huge grain of stories, like who
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: knows of salt.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Because like everyone's trying to like, you get people, they're
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: writing about their personal experiences and they're sharing information. And
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: when you get people doing that, there's a tendency for
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: people to try to top each other in terms of
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: their stories, and they end up telling tall tales, so
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you know, fish stories as it were. But also, what
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: isn't there Like, isn't there like an achievement or scoring
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: system and Reddit where you can get like yeah, it's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: like social credit, and like the more people like what
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you say, the more of that you get. So doesn't
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: that encourage people to like stretch the truth or exaggerate
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, But I would like to add this that I've
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: noticed sort of a trend between men and women. And
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: it's not like I'm not talking about straight men and women,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: but I guess bisexual men and women. Men who are
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: able to do so will go from women to men
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: and they'll describe the incredible relief and joy of being
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: with a partner who shares are willing to have taken
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: interest in their interests. Isn't constantly expecting to be the
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: center of attention. Isn't constantly expecting to be served and
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: paid for and pampered and that, you know, there's this
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: whole world that opens up in the relationship for his
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: own needs. And then I will go to the other
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: side and women dating women. You know, it's like that
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Bill Burr sketch. I think it was Bill Burr. You know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: you don't look, you know, you go to a lesbian
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: bar and look at not the new lesbians, the young
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: ones you haven't been you know, around for you know,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: like five ten years. Look at the old lesbians and
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: they look like they've just they've come back from a
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: tour of norm.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: It's like Bill Burr was. It's still funny, based somewhat
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: And I see the opposite going with women, and then
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: they go with like they'll be like, oh, I can't
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: stand men, and then they'll go and they'll date women,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: and then after like a year, they'll come out and
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: just I have PTSD. Oh my god, I understand everything
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: that women men say about. And then I understand that
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: frog meme with women on the bottom.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: So just Nora Vincent is basically the whole thing summed up.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I regret to inform you, and I just I
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: just I just I just wanted to note that difference. Okay, Yeah,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: when he said Bill Burr said like that gay guys
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: were just so happy, like they're just levitating, you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: too happy?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, that that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Would that would have a little bit I think being
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: broken up with for them to date someone they met.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: By probably the first compliment he's ever had in his life.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Probably that yeah, probably didn't get compliments like that from
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: even the women around him. But also, I mean, if
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: he was willing to run off like that, he probably
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: wasn't really into you anyways. So you're just helping him
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: find his true self mm hmm at least.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: You know, and some kind of seem to help him
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: figure out his sexuality. Whether it's real or not remains uncertain.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I'm leaning possibly probably towards it's not real. However, it
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: is funny, so I'm going to pretend that it is
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: for you. I don't need people in my comments being
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: like you always take things too seriously and think that
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: they were I don't care. It's more fun to go
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: along with things as though they're real. Nothing is an
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: original experience, right, Like, just because someone is making it
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: up doesn't mean it's a made up scenario doesn't mean
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: it's never happened. So we even have made up I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: going to act as though they're real because even if
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: it didn't happen to this person, it probably it most
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: likely has happened to someone else at some point.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: So okay, let's get into she's gonna talk about masculinity, masculinity, mascualinity, masculininity,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: cultural commentary.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I'm masculine if they're not benefiting from their labor. These
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: guys were flooding, so my boyfriend had to step in,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: and they're holding up a phone that says tits and
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: then it pans to her boyfriend and he is nodding
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: and looking at them and undoing his shit, and then
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: he flashes them and then they stop cheering and being
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: like hell yeah, but like, joke's on you here. They
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: they may have been talking to him in the first place.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: We don't know is this suddenly gay or were they
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: already gay to begin with? Their sign could have been
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: for Bothy, like what the.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Bi erasier lady of just using the terms right right.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I mean they could have just been joking around too though.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they could have just been like.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Guys horse around about being gay, you know, just like
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: they call each other gay, like that's what guys do.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: It's fun. Of course, we're not allowed to do that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: anymore because you you know, if you're in the UK
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: or something of Canada, you can get thrown in jail.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, this is the way yet. But yes, well
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: there's the pronoun thing title, uh whatever it's called.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: It's as bad as it is in the UK.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: The UK is I think it's definitely worse in the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: UK and Scotland and stuff. But yeah, I mean to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: what we're saying is is that guys can't make jokes
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: about being gay with other men generally because women like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: this activist types will get their panties in a twist
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: over it. So what I'm saying is that she's maybe
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it's just for the sake of the video. All I'm
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: saying is that in this particular scenario, it's entirely possible
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that no one involved is gay and they're just being
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: funny and he's playing along, and maybe they were trying
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to get his girlfriend to do it, and then he
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: did it, and they said, okay, we'll roll with it,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: because you know, men generally have a better sense of
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: humor than most People's just my two cents on that one.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let's go.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: They didn't care either her or him. They don't mind.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: They reacted strongly to this. They weren't like mad or
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: upset or anything. They're like, hell, yeah, tits, let's fucking go.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I don't care who they're on as long as I
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: see them respect. Is it suddenly gay or is it
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: already bisexual? Beta male?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I probably just joke.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: So she did get she did include the buyes. Okay,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: she did.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Alpha male, You're going to have the best night of
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: your life. I'll see you at nine pm. Wear that
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: tight red dress. And someone quote tweeted with I legit.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Had to reread this several times before I realized it
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: wasn't intended to be a conversation between the beta male
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: and the alpa male. Yeah, yeah, same, That's how this
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: format usually goes, and it works in this scenario as well,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Like it's so fucking funny. Beta males like where where
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: do you want to go? And the alpha male is
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: just like I'm going to take you out, wear that
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: nice dress. You're gonna have the best night of your life.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, this, do you get? What that?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: What that was?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I do I get?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: And she's she's reinterpreting it as gay. This is pretty weird.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people are reading into it, like
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: in their own way.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: So yeah, this is like, this is weak sauce. This
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: is I expect more from Rainbow Bright, Rainbow Shape. I
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: don't want eat okay, actually not.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I think her her content is pretty like like this,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: she's not that contentious like you know, drama queen yells
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: at the camera, manifestel. You know, it was like a serpent.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: But this woman is just sort of like I'm queer.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Look at my hair. Ha, this is funny. I was
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: on Reddit today. Here's my friend, here's my stuffed animals.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Like it's kind of I don't know, it's like it's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: it's it's inoffensive but not productive, Like it's just kind
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: of like there, it's just kind of like a wet noodle.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, that's a noodle.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: All right, let's do the final.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's cool.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Does still have stiffness when they're wet?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess so then yeah, definitely not. It's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a flaccid pool noodle his benefit.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe I don't no, I don't know. I hope I
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: hope she knows, or I hope she doesn't know. Let her,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: let her, let her not know, because pascalized number plates
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: are fucking expensive and she can just keep driving around
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: in ascent and oblivious to this plate, says, I think
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I'm it, and I think that, you know, potentially a
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: good luck.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Not I thought it would be.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Richard, you got up your game. If you want me
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: to cringe, Like seriously, this woman.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: I feel like this event was born out all lie
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: that got it looks like my Little Pony.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: From the eighties.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Her hair looks like a my Little Pony from the eighties.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, So here's the I think this is like
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: really the last one.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, okay, let's go for it. Let's do it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Okay. So there's like two guys doing a loge thing.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know, the one way you're like lying on
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: a sled thing and going down a ramp, and this
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: one is these two people and so one at the
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: bottom is lying real stiff straight, and then there's someone
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: on top of him. Like directly on top of him,
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: like back to his front, holding on, and the tweet
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: with it is so funny, Like I feel like this
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: is a lie that got out of hand, Like yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: that's that's yeah, that's so fucking funny. It's like when
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: people go to hospital you realize that.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: The humor of this, it is really funny.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: No, but them of this relies on the taboo around
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: male sexuality with other men. That's what it relies on.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: So she's basically in order to be funny. Otherwise it's
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: just two men doing a sport. You know, a lot
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: of sports require some amount of physical content contact between
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: their respective players. But if we didn't, if we didn't
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: have any like stigma over over physical contact between men,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: first of all sexualizing it, because we sexualize everything that
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: men do, but we didn't neither men with other men,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: but with children, and with women and with animals, Like
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: you'd not notice like this constant sexualization of men's behavior
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: in every conceivable concept context, right, we even excessively sexualize
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: their behavior with well, I mean, like we we'll look
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: at a scenario where a man has like a sex doll,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: and we will frame him in a particular way and
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: then we will look at the subjectivity of the sex
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: doll as greater than his. You notice, like, in order
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: to frame him as sexually predatory.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Right, this is this is the yeah, Like why is
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: U right now? We have this whole thing in the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: video game space about Collective Shout, which is this feminist
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: activist organization that is basically trying to get video games
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: banned because they're sexualizing women and girls in video games.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: And you the most extreme examples of games, but they're
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: really going after all of them and the same thing
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: because men, men are the ones that primarily play video games,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: and if they feature women in them, then there is
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: an assumption that there's something going on.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just the assumption that there's something sexual
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: going on, but that if there's something sexual going on,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: the man is a predator. So I want to get
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: back to the like the sex doll example. So you
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: got this lump of silicone in the shape of a
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: woman and they've got a man. They'll look at this
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: like they'se feminists like this will look at this, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: they will they will create a subjectivity for the doll
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: in order to turn the man into a predator, like
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: a sexual predator, and we do this constantly. We sexualize men.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I guess in this scenario it's two men, so which
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: one is the predator? Right, But it's still sexualized. And
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: it's like that that men don't get away from that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: They're constantly sexualized in this manner. And it's not the
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: way that men women are sexual Women are sexualized as
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: in being desirable. Men are sexualized as being not desirable
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: and criminal. And she's just playing into that right there.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's milk toast. She probably doesn't
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: even think that deeply about what she's saying. It's just
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: two men, two men hugging on a sled, you know.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: But if you think about it, that's why would why
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: would that be funny unless it's breaking a taboo? And
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: what taboo is it breaking? When this is an athletic event, right,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Like this is just two men achieving a goal. They're
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: physically scrunched together. But it's because of the physics of
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: the situation, you know. I mean you could say the
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: same thing about the national sport of Turkey, which is
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: oil wrestling.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: You know, oil wrestling. It's not supposed to be gay, no,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, we tend to you know, we tend to,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: especially today these days, we tend to see all loves
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: as erotic, so like we don't there's different loves, right,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: there's platonic and other kinds, but like these days, it
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: seems like almost front and center is always the erotic love.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: So this is and particular when it comes to the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: way that we frame it around men, which is why
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: we see, like you said, men around children as a
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: problem because we immediately jump to conclusions about that, or
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: men around other women obviously, men around inanimate objects, like.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know so, and that makes no sense, Like,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: how can you think that a sex doll has more
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: of a subjective You're you're you're actually respecting and honoring
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: the subjectivity of a lump of silicone more than a man.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: It's insane and sort of gross. By the way, That's
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: why this whole discussion around sex dolls, I just look
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: at it and I'm like, what the hell are you
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: psychos on? Because all of the condemnation requires you to
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: believe that the sex doll has some kind of subjectivity
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: greater than the man, And it's ridiculous, all right, but anyway,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: and it actually says a lot about the people who
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: are calling it out, but ultimately, again this the humor
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: of this only rests on this excessive sexualization of men.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I wanted to say something about we've been watching this
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: is another Richard request, No Man's Zone, and we've been
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: watching it with the Writer's Retreat, and it actually was, like,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I think it was a really good request. I don't
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: know why he just dropped the ball with this one.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: But the No Man's Zone is really fascinating because it's
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: a Russian series, a sci fi series where they examine
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: the possibly like they do what if about the creation
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: of an all female society, although there are some males
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: in that society who provide the seed for it to continue,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: but it's an all but they're really really soy else
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: to describe it, and but it actually ends up being
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: a real critique of how women do and the things
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: that they engage in. And one of the fascinating things
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: about the second season that we've been watching now spoilers guys,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: is that the main male character and the main female
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: character who are in a relationship now and she is
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: from this femtopia and he's from an external society that
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: they term the primates because they dehumanize the men, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: she is treating him like a sexual convenience because throughout
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: her entire life she's only ever had any kind of
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: sexual contact with essentially machines vibrators. And he's having trouble
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: because the leader of Femtopia, the new leader of Femtopia,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: has declared like a genocide upon the primates, and he's
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: like freaking out about that, and she's expecting him to
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: continue to service her sexually like a machine. He doesn't,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: and he's not able to because of course he's under
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: considerable amount of stress about what Femtopia is doing to,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: you know, the people that he came from. So he's
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: unable to perform sexually, and she's getting more and more
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: pissed off about it because she doesn't understand that he's
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: not a sexual convenience like the things that she's had
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: sexual relationships with up to this point, Like he's a person.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was really really on point for
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: what I'm seeing in the behavior of women now, even
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: like when we finished off that woman from the New
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: York Times and how she and her friends mocked a
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: man because he did not want to have sex with them,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: or he said, wow, I'm too anxious, so I don't
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: you know, I can't handle having sex with you whatever,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: And they mocked him in public for it because they
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: saw him as a sexual convenience, not a person. And
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I think that's on the continuum with what she's I know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: this is like we're going to deep dive here, guys,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: We're going we're doing some serious like deep dive squirrel
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: action here. But I think that's on a continuum with
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: what she's doing, which is two men. You know, it's
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: it's sexual. So that's that's what's funny about it, right,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: It's like, no, it's not you know you are you
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: are actually turning two men engaging in a sport into
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: your sexualizing them. Because even though you're a lesbian, I
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: think apparently you are also infested with the uh. Men
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: are a sexual convenience mentality and men are our men
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: are entirely defined by sex mentality. All Right, Anyway, I
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: got back.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: We have surfaced.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: We have we have surfaced in the squirrel submarine.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: All right. So this is the last That was the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: last bit from that video squirrels. So I guess we'll
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: get to the other one. Please stick to monogamy.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, sure, all right, let's do it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: So, all right, we all.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Live calls non binary pals and welcome back to another video.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: So the other day I was on Twitter as I
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: usually am, and I came across this tweet that made
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: me giggle. It made me laugh because I agree with
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: it wholeheltedly, and that reads. My absolute favorite brand of
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Reddit story is men posting things like I bullied my
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: wife into an open relationship and it turns out she's
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: a very desirable goddess and I'm somewhat of an unfuckable troll.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: How do I fix my relationship?
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, so now we're into the spice.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: All right, there's a different video, so right, so please
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: stick to monogamy out on that. But okay, sure you know.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: It's processed out as you might. I'm pretty sure men
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: know at this point that opening their relationship is a disaster.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: If you don't want that. Like sometimes I think that
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: it's well, there's probably no data on this, but I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: think that generally when you open your relationships, women get
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: more opportunities really than men. I think that that's true. Yeah,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: that should be obvious, right, So that's why when they
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: when they say my favorite brand of red as story
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: is men posting things like I bullied my wife into
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: an open relationship. First off, shit, that doesn't happen. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: don't think men bully their wives. Why are you married
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: if you're bullying each other into an open relationship and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: it turns out she's a very desirable goddess and I'm
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: somewhat of an unfuckable troll? How do I fix my relationship?
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: That just I'm sorry. That just doesn't sound like anything
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: that happens. And that doesn't mean it never happens. I'm
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: saying it just doesn't happen as much as these people think,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: because generally women have more opportunities to do that than men,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and that has more to do with men's standards than women.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: So but anyway, yeah, yeah, I mean, I honestly have
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: heard more of the stories of a man being unwilling
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: to do it and people sure shaming him, especially in media.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, this used to be a thing about Paulia,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: like twenty five years ago. They would say stuff like this,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: and it's like it, you know, that brown is just
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I think she has like brown on one side. It
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: really doesn't work with the rest of her hair unless
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: it's a blue which.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Case she needs to watch on the on this side
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: over here. Yeah, I think that is dark, like a
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: deep indigo.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough. Yeah, it's so funny.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Is something so funny and so beautiful about these situations?
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Like it's horrible but also absolutely hilarious, and it happens
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: so much like a ridiculous amount. And it was through
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: this tweet that I learned there was actually an entire
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: subreddit dedicated to that sort of thing exactly, which is
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: called ah slash open marriage Regrets. And I saw that
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, let's you know what.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Plus for a second, I'm going to take a look. Well, no,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: we can actually continue to reddit the calm slash our
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: open marriage regrets. Well, I'm guessing that there's very few
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: there's very few women who regret that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm what, I'm thirty five am, and I'm regretting
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: having an open marriage with my twenty six f wife. Okay,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: so edit for Fox's sake, people, this is my real Okay.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Do you have a are you? I think you can
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: just browse Reddit even if you don't have an account.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I know that you got a little bit.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Baffled by read it. Yeah, yeah, I read it is
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: something worthy of being leary of. I'm jealous of how
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: easy things are with my wife. I admit that this
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: is the worst thing I ever did and regret it
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: the most. November four I brought up the idea of
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: an open marriage with my wife and she was one
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: hundred percent against it. I don't understand why, but now
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I do for some idea of things. I suggest this
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: to spice things up in our marriage, or so I thought,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: But I quickly realized that I was wrong, and I
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: could have suggested other things with her and kept our
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: marriage exclusive. Okay, this, you know what. I hate to
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: tell you this, but I think this might be fetish material.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: We don't have kids and I don't plan on it,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: so we have a lot of time together. How do
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I fix things with her? I don't want to lose her,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: and I've learned my lesson or have things and in divorce. Okay,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I'm white male, six foot five with dark hair, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: yet I couldn't do the things she could. One night,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: we were at a jazz club and at the bar,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I was across the room attempting to make her jealous,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: but she wasn't even paying attention. What the fuck? Really?
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Well, just okay, so this.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Guy is attempting to make his wife jealous. I was
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: attempting to make her jealous, but she wasn't even paying
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: attention to me. As I watched a scene, at least
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: sick at least eight men walk up to her and
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: try to buy her a drink, and she refused all
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: of them. And when we got home, I was embarrassed
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: and upset. I asked for we get end the open
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: marriage thing, and she agreed and told me, now you
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: know that you're not the only man who desires me,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: and that made me melt at her feet. Now I
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: worship her entire existence. Okay, friends, this is fetish material.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: These people are These people are taking.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Fetish material seriously, right, Okay, let's see the second one.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: He proposed open marriage, but I regret it too long,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: don't read. I don't like that my husband's going out
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: with eighteen to twenty one age skinny girls exclusively since
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: we opened the relationship. So we female thirty seven male
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: forty men in college who've always been very much in
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: the same wavelength. Okay, he's very athletic, always has been
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: periodically spent. Okay. He also has a much higher sex
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: drive than I do, and he likes to be very
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: rough in bed. That wasn't a problem until recently, but
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I started having trouble keeping up, keep getting kinks in
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: my neck and spine, and generally feeling like I've been
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: run over after every session with him. That's the reason
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I proposed opening the relationship to get some outside help.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: So he leaves me alone. Wow, So he leaves me
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: alone now. I don't know if it's me being insecure,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: but I regret it because he's been going out with
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: very young women I mean ten, eighteen to twenty one,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: and consistently very skinny. He never makes comments about my
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: body besides nudging me to work out with him, but
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I've never been skinny, and I can't help but imagine
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: him with them whenever he doesn't come home with me.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: It gives me a feeling of disgust that he's going
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: after such young girls. I think it makes me look
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: at him differently. My niece is seventeen now, and I
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: have to worry about him being attracted to her. This
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: is mostly event My feelings come from insecurity about being
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: old and used up, and I don't know if he'll
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: want to back out of the open marriage. Now, this
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: is not a real post. Okay, yes, do you realize
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: that thirty five M is probably not a real post either.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Let's see, this is actually on our open marriage regret.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: After years of swinging with couples and my husband watching
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: me with single men, I had my first consensual solo experience,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if our marriage will recover. So
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: she does it once she's turned out. I'm not gonna
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: read anymore. I think that this basically frames it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, so this is first of all, this is terry picking,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: because there's apparently women who also regret. Second of all,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of this is fetish material, so
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: tread carefully if you treat it seriously. But well, let's
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: continue with rainbow shites. Addition to the swamp feels more.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: It feels sort of like she's just spitting into the swamp.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: But okay, yeah, I.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Mean she's cherry picking this, like you said, like the
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: stuff that she wants to talk about. Let's jump ahead
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to the conflict between monogamy or do you want to
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: like listen.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: To more of this kind of rambles. Okay, you know what,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I think. We got a taste of our open marriage.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Let's get her opinion.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: All right, here we are. We are going to take
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: a dive into a slash open marriage regrets, which is
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: exactly as it sounds.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Wait, you want me to just jump ahead to where
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: she sort of gives a gives.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: I know that's some somewhat difficult for her, but hopefully
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: there is a conclusion in this forty seven minutes next.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait, what's the beginning of.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: This particular anecdote. I feel like we've missed some context. Friends,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: we just got we just we just dove into the
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: third act.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, and think about what an open marriage
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: is and what it looks like. Husband wanted an open
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: marriage and is now mad at me for seeing someone.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Plus update and ongoing issue we haven't we female twenty two,
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: male twenty five have been married for two years and
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: together for almost six, yet beginning of last year, he
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: told me he has room in his heart for more
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: than one woman and is a man for more than
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: one partner. He wanted an open marriage. It was so
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: hard for me to agree, but the minute I did,
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: he started seeing this beautiful, attractive girl. I kind of
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: explain how painful it was to know that I'm not
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: enough for him, that he's spending time with someone else,
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: and he did from spending nights with her to text me.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I just want to point out something.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Remember what we watched with the one woman who was like,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I want to open the relationship so I can get
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: rid of them, you know, so I don't have to
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: deal with them. And I like how this man is
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: like framing it in a more positive way, like I
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: have more heart, I have room in my heart for
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: more than one woman. Yeah, why people do this to themselves?
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: But whatever, So I'm just wanted to note that it's
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: like the framing is completely different but than my yeah,
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: like visual variation. It might it might just be coincidence, Okay,
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: all right, I.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Supposed to be spending time together. I'd literally cry myself
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: to sleep every night while he was with her or
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: home after hanging out with her. I even met someone,
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: but I just couldn't open up to that guy because
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: if I started letting the new guy take me on
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: dates to his place, et cetera. He's been so good
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: to me and that's all I needed after feeling like
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not enough for my husband. I feel attractive and
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: worthy again. This is so it's the same thing, right.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: It's so sad that these open marriages so often start
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: with these men being like please, please, please please, and
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: like guilt tripping or coercing their partners into agreeing.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I think that's reading into it quite a bit. He
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: just said I had room in my heart for more
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: than one woman. You could have said, well, go find her.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you you you you can put your foot down,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: yeah if you're if you're if you don't want that,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: because I've like I've been with girls that are like, oh,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I think I want to see other people, but like
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I want to see you too, and I just be like, Nope,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: that's not for me. And that was it. It was over.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: So you just like say what you want and that's it.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Like you don't want, you don't want to be well
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: if you I don't know. I don't think that open
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: relationships are generally good, and especially for men. It's just
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: like you're just spending twice as much money or more
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: if you're like seeing more women. So you know, I
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: don't I don't see time from the most practical what
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I said.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: Think of all the time you could be spend gaming instead.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Or just yeah, or just like sleeping.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like I mean, walking the dog anything else,
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: but dealing with another person's bullshit like that's the thing.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: But I don't know what you're just you're when you
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: invite another person into your life, you invite another person's
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: baggage and bullshit like it just doesn't it is inevitable.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: And but I wanted a zero in on her baggage
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: and bullshit. That guy didn't sound like he pressured her.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: He's just like, wow, this is who I am. How
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: can you judge? It's kink shaming, right, And and she
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: went along with it. Apparently there's no indication that he
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: pressured her. He just asked, and like you said, like
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Brian said, he could have been just you know, it's
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: not for me, goodbye, or it's not for me. If
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: you want to continue this relationship, you're gonna drop that, right.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: But anyway, let's let's find out what happens now that
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: she's got herself a partner.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: And side people want these women lose these men.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: They love them, they have a life with them, They
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: you know, want to keep being in their lives and
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: having this relationship. So a lot of the time they
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: are going to, you know, make these compromises and be like, Okay,
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: I guess I will because I don't want to.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: That's the same point.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: I'm miserable because they've had to pick between you know
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: that or just like not having him at all, and
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: that's like such a difficult and hard thing. And it
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: makes me so sad that these women are in this position,
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: and they obviously, you know, lack a bit of self
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: worth in the sense that like they deserve better than that.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: And there are people who you know, will be monogamist
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: with them.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: If you think it's a matter of better, it's about
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: it's a matter of like knowing what you want. I mean,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think I don't know. They're adults. You know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: you make a choice.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you make a choice, and they made a choice.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: And the other thing is that how does this not
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: also apply to men who are have partners, female partners
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: who want to open the relationship. You know, that's it's
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: the same thing, except the men have the full force
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: of the state, because you know, we don't have no
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: fault divorce. We have men at fault divorce. Plus all
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: of the discrimination against men when it comes to family
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: courts and domestic violence and sexual assault law. You know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff like men are behind the
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: eight ball in a bigger way than women are so
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: and nobody wants to talk about that except us. Okay,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: let's keep going.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: All right, What you are not someone who wants to
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: be in a polyamorous relationship, you do not have to
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: be like, there's nothing wrong with polyamory. If that is
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: something that is going to work for you, I have
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: nothing against polyamory. I've made a whole video about polyamory.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: If you want more of my thoughts on that, you
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: can go check that out. But like, it is not
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: for everyone. And if someone you're in a relationship with
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: wants to open the marriage, you do not have to
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: say yes. If that is something that makes you I'm
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: pretty sure you know that they're making you feel like
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: you have to do it or they got to leave
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: you just leave if that's not for you.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: It's not a very good example of porsion. They have
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: room in my heart for more than one woman. Okay,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: that's not really a good example of coercion.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: It's not no right so to me, you literally just
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: have two people that have different ideas on what a
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: relationship looks like, and one of them did not do
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: the work on themselves to figure out that's what they
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: really wanted, and so they regret it and now they're
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the victim of their own naivete.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, okay, let's keep going.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: It never ends. Well, if one of you isn't into it,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: it never You may as well save yourself the heartbreak
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: by leaving before it happens. If they don't take no
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: as an answer, it's over right. They should always.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Accept a no.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Last month, and you guy took me out of town
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: for my birthday weekend. A happy birthday text is all
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: I got from my husband since that. It's like my
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: husband suddenly realized that we're married. He wants to spend
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: time together, gets jealous, and I'm not home. And now
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: he's saying he wants a baby, which I'm not against,
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: but would like to wait until our relationship is a
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: bit more stable. Well, he disagrees. He thinks that I'm
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: prioritizing my boyfriend over our relationship and family, and that's
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: not what an open marriage is about. He's now wanting
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: to stop everything and go back to being monogamous. I'm
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: not ready for that. He got to decide when this started.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: Why does he get to decide when it ends? Why
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: did he wait until I started being happy again? Because
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: he's possessive. That's why he'd want to keep it going
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: forever if you were keeping to yourself and not sleeping
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: with anyone else.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it sounds like you found herselful narcissist, But
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: let's keep going. I guess, yeah, maybe.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: There are no Yeah, well wouldn't they also probably be
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: the same kind of people that be interested in open
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: relationships or polyamory.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's why you don't want to
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: get into this. Like, in my opinion, you know, most
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: of the people involved in this are going to be
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: on the cluster B spectrum and they're going to be
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: involved because they can't handle an actual intimate relationship. So
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, in going to this community at your peril
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: and yeah, men don't It doesn't matter how much you
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: think you want variety. No, okay, yeah, it's really not that.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: It's not really that big of a deal.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these men can't.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: These men will want the relationship to be open for
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: as long as they possibly can. As long as their
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: wives are staying loyal only to them. As soon as
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: you're sleeping with other people, they don't want to bar
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: it because they are possessive and they view their wives.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: As Yeah, but what about the cucks in the truckture?
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: What about the men like fetish had I think that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I think that there's also the possibility that this guy
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: made him realize that he didn't want, you know, like
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: that he made a mistake and doesn't want an open
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: relationship and he does want this woman to be he
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: wants to be monogamous. I don't know if that was
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: put forward and maybe she didn't include that in her thing,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: or if Kwi's leaving it out or whatever, But that's
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: not manipulative to basically be like, you know what, I thought,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I wanted this, but I don't want this. You know,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: that's sort of like growing up. I guess, you know,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: it's like your preferences change over time. So I would
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: not call it possessive. I think that's a bit of
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: a unfair characterization. Like if he specifically saying, well, I
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: should be able to see around and you shouldn't, then
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: you know you still have an option. It's called walking
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: away if you don't like that, but most likely you
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: know that maybe there should be a conversation about monogamy.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I know that it's not very I know
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: it's very boring in vanilla and not cool, but maybe
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: it works. Like I don't know, I'm just I know,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a stick in the mud saying,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe you should just stay with one person.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: But I feel like one person's plenty of work already.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: So you know, you yourself, like as an individual, I
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: think it's a lot of work. Yeah right, you know
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: it's in in monogamy is the best place to do
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: that work unless you're in a covent or a monastery,
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: you know. So it's I don't know, like it it.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: I think that the people who truly can handle polyamory
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: wouldn't do it. They would have no need to do
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: it well at all.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to ask, like what is
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the other than just to like what just to be
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: like constantly stimulated. I feel like, I don't know, man,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I think that there's I think that there's more to
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: life than that. And I've been around but uh but yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm done, like a law I'm wave done
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: with that and that's all behind me.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: And you're right, it could be a situation where he's
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: he's now second guessing what's going on, because it sounds
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: like she did indeed pursuit well like.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: He's he's not gonna I mean, I would hope that
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: he's not so like low IQ that he would be like,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to bring a baby in the world and
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: still be you know, sleeping with other women. That's ridiculous.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but I don't think this relationship is
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: long for the world, for this world, because she has
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: contempt if she can't forgive him for opening the relationship
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: and then regretting it. And I mean, where's the other
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: girl that he's with now? I mean that it's complete, condensed, coincidentally,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: completely unmentioned, but that would be important too. Has she
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: has he's broken off with her, That's an important detail
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: not mentioned. Okay, let's keep going. Presumably, if she's asking
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: for monogamy, he broke it off with the other girl.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: It doesn't care. Men perceive you and get to touch
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: you and he doesn't.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: You don't understand men at all. Stop talking about them.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: First of all, let's take this let's take this.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: It's funny because it's like only men do that. Women
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: aren't like that. Women can be possessive too, incredibly like
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: it's not a unique male trait, even if, even if
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: you were telling the truth about that, it's not a
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: male thing. So the the way you're painting this picture
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: is like, you know, disingenuous.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, so let's keep going. All right, you guys, you've
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: got a narcissist. This is a narc behavior. You got
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: yourself a narcissist. This is not the behavior of all men,
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: Rainbow rainbow bright. It's not the behavior or it's not
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: the behavior of all men. Not the behavior of all men. Okay,
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: all right, let's keep going.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Be with me.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: But doesn't want to have to deal with a crazy
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: husband slash in to be X. He wants to take
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: a break until I get things figured out with my husband.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: How am I supposed to do that? Though still planning
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: on getting a divorce, but I can't control my husband.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: Could this be his way of dumping me? We get
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: another update, we got the divorce process started right before that,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: though my ex husband was able to meet with my
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: dad who's always liked him, and told him how I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: cheated on him and then insisted on having an open
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: marriage when I got caught. So now I can't even
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: go to my family's house because my dad is mad
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: at me and won't hear me out. Pretty sure he
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: told some of our common friends the same thing, because
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: they won't answer my texts. I was able to move
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: into an apartment, and now I'm just waiting for things
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: to calm down with my family and for the divorce
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: to be finalized. Oh and I could lose my job
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: soon because someone left some serious bad reviews on the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: website and now I'm being investigated.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait what but how does that
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: relate to this?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: You're trying to suggest that maybe her ex husband is
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: like posting, like trying to tarnish her character or something.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: I think because it's like a random thing to add,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: or you know, it's a pity party and look all
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: all the bad things are happening to me all at once.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it's the consequence of my actions, and you're
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: the one.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Even if she has found a narcissist or a sociopath,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: that is not all men. And the instant you try
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: to make this all men, Rainbow Bright you are a bigot.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: This is a subset of men and the behavior of
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: a subset of men. They exist, but they are not
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: all men.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Well, the question though, is is that is this the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: kind of man that this woman is attracted to? Because
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: if it is, then maybe this other guy is is
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: also going to be a problem because these are the men,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he could be one
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: of these dark triad men that women find so manly
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and attractive, and then you know, she manages to basically
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: like make it to where he wants to stay. But
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: she's also seeing other men, and she's going to go
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: out with other men who she also finds attractive. Like
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: she has a type, So what if this other guy
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: is also that type. So like she's not out of
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: the woods yet because she hasn't figured out what it
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: is that she's fighting. Yeah, she's not looking at their rainbow.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: Right telling us all, oh, this is just men is
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: not going to help her. No, not all right, this
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: is not all men. And I noticed that this dude
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: has not sick institutions after her yet because he can't
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: because he's a man. And this is where we'd come in,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: because if this was a man with a narcissist ex wife.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: She would be seeking the institutions on him. All right,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: let's keep going.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: M Okay, So I've been home this whole week. I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: have no one to talk to unless I decide to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: finally ouncewer my husband's text. Even you guy hasn't been
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: talking to me. So yeah, that's how my life's going.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Any advice on how to deal with the loneliness, bro,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: this makes me so frustrated, Like, men, really no audacity.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no rainbow bright It is not okay.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Well, it's that they.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: See having to like guilt someone into opening it in
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: the first place, then getting mad when they stop acting
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: on that open relationship to the point where you then
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: go and like ruin their life is so fucked up.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: You fucking started it, bro, this was your idea. Think
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: about it. If you want an open marriage, think about
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: what that means. Oh my god, men are horrible. They're
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: fucking so horrible. Like the fact he even went to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: what the what?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: No, I froze you once again. That flag means everybody
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: but men, everybody but men, And we are going to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: escapegoat the crap out of men. We are going to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: frame the behavior of a tiny subset of men as
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: all men, right, who are you without your hatred of
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: men and your scapegoating of men and your condemnation of men?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Who are you?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Yep?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: All right, family against her? That's so fucked The fact
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: how dad won't hear her out is also fucked up. Basically,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: fuck all the men in this story.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: The problem with so many of the relationships that exist
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: in these stories is that it's non monogamy practiced by
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: people who are monogamous. Does that make sense, right, Like
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: most of them aren't really actually trying to have like healthy,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: non monogamous relationships. It's largely just men who want to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: sleep with people and don't give a fuck about their wife.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: So this is where cherry picked well yeah, obviously cherry picked. Yeah,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: but also, like, what if monogamy was encouraged because it
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: was safest for men and women, and that trying to
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: explore these other options invite a certain kind of person
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: that wants to take advantage of that. So, yeah, you
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: may have a problem with men in with the men
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: in your story, But maybe those men are because what
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: we're saying is a subset of men, right, Maybe they're
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: the kind of people that would take advantage of that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and create the conditions that basically suggest that your version,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: your version of polyamory, is actually unhealthy because it invites
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: people like this into your life and maybe you were
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: if you weren't. Another thing, too, is that this woman,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: when you get involved in any relationship, only one works, right,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: all the people that you date in your life, only
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: one works. If that? So this is just a relationship
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: going sour. Guess what, you got to get up and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: dust yourselves off and get back out there, or you know, don't,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: but like you don't. You can't just wallow and self
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: pity and blame half the human race for your for
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: your poor choices.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, So between the ages of eighteen to twenty one
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: women cheat more, and between the ages of thirty to
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: thirty nine men cheat more. Women in their sixties report
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: having a higher rate of infidelity.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Like cheating on their Yeah sure, yeah, although the.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Women also in their sixties of their highest rate of infidelity.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: But then that's probably because but apparently, let's see, women
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: are more likely to get away with it. Also, I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: really doubt that those statistics let's attach women up.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: What if what if most people? What if most people
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: who say they're they're interested in getting into an open
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: relationships or open marriages or whatever, are actually just one
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: of two things. Either they are just men that are
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: looking to spread their seat as much as possible, and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: this is just a way to do that while still
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: having a marriage, which, by the way, if men want
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: an advantage in the dating world, being married is a
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: big blood plus like wearing a ring that's basically catniped
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: for a lot of women. So it would get like
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: there are some kind of men who would want to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: be in an open relationship because he's looking to essentially
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: have as sex with as many different women as possible,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: and that's it. So he's not really in it because
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: he's interested in treating everybody in that equally, but just
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: because he wants to like play the field still while
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: still having someone that he can come home to, which
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: sounds selfish and all, but I'm saying like, if open
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: relationships and open marriages exist, there's probably a decent subset
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: of people that are doing that that have that mindset.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: And in the women's side, it's hypergamy, like they're with
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: a guy and then they're seeing other guys and then
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: maybe they'll change their mind about polyamory when they find
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: the right guy that they can like level up to. Right,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: So you got so this. I think this is why
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: younger women cheat more because there's more opportunities for vertical
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: like and you know, advancement in like relationships. You find
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: a guy who's got more older, more mature, higher status, whatever,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna cheat with him because I'm like eighteen,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know shit. And then the men who cheat
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: more often when they're in their thirties. It's basically the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: whole like oh shit and running out of time here,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: let me like, you know, see, get some more action. Plus,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: men that age are generally more attractive because they have
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: more resources, they've had time to build up you know,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: some status, and so they can be more attractive to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: younger women. So just throwing it out there again, not
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: making generalizations about a whole gender. I'm talking about the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: subset of people that are most interested or would be
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: more inclined towards being open to these kinds of like
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: polyamorous relationships. Right, how would they benefit? I think women
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: do it through hypergamy and men through spreading their seed.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, let's uh, let's finish this off.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, it's only a little bit left.
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  Speaker 4: But we end up like polyamory can be such a
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  Speaker 4: good and healthy relationship system and relationship style.
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  Speaker 1: So many people I don't think so, I think that
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  Speaker 1: there's cope here. I think that most of the time
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  Speaker 1: they either end a disaster or they end in monogamy.
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  Speaker 1: That's usually how I think it goes. You do it
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  Speaker 1: for a little while. Usually if anything had just ends
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  Speaker 1: up becoming monogamous, they just oh, you know what, I think,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: I just want to stay with you and that's it,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: or ends in disaster. There was a story of a polycule.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I remember this on the news while back. I'm sorry,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the names of anybody involved, but there
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: was a video I think they did like a spot
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  Speaker 1: on like some news show, and it was like a
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  Speaker 1: woman with like three dudes, and the woman was pregnant
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  Speaker 1: with one of the babies, a baby by one of
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: the men, and they were on there talking about how
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  Speaker 1: great it was that they were in this polycole and
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: they were all friends and everything, and then like I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: think at some point, one of the men killed that
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  Speaker 1: woman's baby because it was from another dude and it
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: was a disa and and they were all like you know,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: but but like I remember that.
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  Speaker 2: They were all they were questionable were.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't the They weren't that attractive. They were pretty
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  Speaker 1: like you know, they were like goblins, like all of them,
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  Speaker 1: but like goblins, they need a society to so it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: But when they ended that way, you know, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: all that surprised. Like I found out one of the
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: guys killed this woman's baby, and yeah, it was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: yeah it wasn't his. He thought it was. I think
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  Speaker 1: he thought it was and it turned out.
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  Speaker 3: Not to be so well, okay, But here's the other thing,
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  Speaker 3: Like the individuals were, I mean, what kind of dude
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  Speaker 3: is going to be part of a polycule with three
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  Speaker 3: other men? You know there's going to be issues. I
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: always see this, like I always see this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know it's what I'm saying. Someone
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: is always a psycho, right, well, yeah, probably a couple
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  Speaker 1: of them. That's why I'm saying when she says it's
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  Speaker 1: perfectly healthy, this is code because I'm telling you very okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it can't happen, but I think
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: it's very very few people could manage it, and most
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: of the time, probably ninety nine percent of the time,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: these things end in either monogamy, which is probably the
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: most common way it goes well we or you know,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: maybe like an opportunity to do it was didn't even
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: come up unless you're like part of the you know,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: like the Hollywood elite Moloch cult, where they probably do
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: share you know, each other's like partners. But or it
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: just ends in a disaster, like it just doesn't like
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: a big crash out breakup where, you know. And I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: think that that's I think that we can look at
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: that and say, you know, maybe this doesn't always work,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: maybe it mostly doesn't work. Maybe that's not the normal
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: state of people, you know, and it's an outlier. And
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: I think that people like this, they want to treat
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: every choice, every lifestyle, every identity as equal, like, oh,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: it's all of us, it's all good, it's all fine, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think that's I think that's kind of
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: a false bill of goods to sell people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it definitely is. Like, honestly, I don't even
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  Speaker 3: when I look at for example, the polygamist PAULI like
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Mormon communities, like the stuff that they do is also
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: and that's probably the most stable arrangement, and yet they.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Still have to it's like multiple wives.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, multiple the sister wives, but then they also have
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: to do things like they kick their sons out of
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: the community. Any surplus sons are basically dumped on the side.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Of the road.
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  Speaker 3: And then the other thing is I'm listening to the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: women basically, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, there's well, they're.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely not but you know, I'm listening to this and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: I'm listening to the women talk about this, and they
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  Speaker 3: talk about all the benefits of having the sister wives
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: and sharing things and how you know they're they're okay
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: with it. And one woman was like, well, I was.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: I was sharing him because I don't I never fell
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: in love. And it's like, wow, okay, so everything's a
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: business proposition. But here's the other problem. How much? And
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: they're talking about how the wives have to get used
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: to the fact that they're time sharing a man, right,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: and so they don't get as much time as they want.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, I don't give a crap about the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: adult women in this scenario. What about his kids?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: How can you possibly how can these kids possibly have
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: enough fathering to become emotionally and morally independent adults. And
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: the answer is they don't. They don't have enough one
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: on one father time to develop normal levels of emotional
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: and spiritual and social independence. That's why they these cults
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: continue because they can replace what a father would give
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: these children with the cult. Behavior of the community, inculcation
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: into the cult. And it's like and and the thing
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: is that they will target the men who are on
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: the top of these cults, and what will happen is
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: they'll get rid of them and the women will find
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: a new dude. Because this is driven by the women,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: and it's driven by incredible selfish, selfishness in the women.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: They didn't even none of them even said they were like, yeah,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: sometimes we have we have to, you know, timeshare a man,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: which means we get a little less of him than
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: you know, we would whatever, right, never occurred to them,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: what about your children? What are your children getting? And
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: it was like listening to them, it was just despicable.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: And and of course they don't care about their children.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: I mean some of them eventually left because some of
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: the women left were at least one left because she,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: you know, her children were gonna be taken from her
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: and trafficked around the community, and she didn't want to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: see that. She'd only noticed at that point. She only
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: noticed that the children are commodity at that point, not when,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: no doubt, you know, her community was kicking out her sons,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: or her neighbors sons, or her sister wife's sons. Only
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: when her daughters were gonna be trafficked somewhere.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: Was oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: This community treats my children like commodities. You just suddenly
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: noticed that. You didn't notice it when your kid gets
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: like ten minutes with his father every two months, like,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: oh shit, that seems a little bit detrimental to the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: growth of my child. I'm listening to these people justify
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: their bullshit, and it's astounding it and it continues because
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: nobody hammers the women. Nobody looks at them, the women
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: in these Mormon communities and say, you are selfish baby mamas.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: You are no different than ghetto than the ghetto, no
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: different in your actual concern for your children than a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: bunch of baby mamas in a ghetto. Okay, Now, polyamory
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: is one thing, and that is the most like the polygue,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: polygony or polygueah polygony of Mormon communities is probably the
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: most stable form of any of this. And it's like,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: there's a reason why monogamous societies are the ones that
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: generally achieve more, because we're not just like just don't
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: even just just don't even go there, just like make
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: sure the kids have enough father time, and you get
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: you get much but much better output. Let's say, all right,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get off my podium here about this.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Well the end, Okay, I'm not.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: Gonna defend this guy. He sounds like a certified psychopath
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: or of narcissist. But he does not represent all men.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: And that is a problem that she's basically saying, Oh,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: this guy's all men. No, he doesn't even represent all
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: men legally, right, because you could say that women's powers
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: in a relationship granted to them by the legal system
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: means all women are like that. It's not that all
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: women will use those powers detrimentally, it's that all women
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: have them, and men, you know, there's no way that
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: a man can not be in a relationship with a
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: woman who's empowered by the legal system. By feminist nonsense.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: When it comes to domestic violence and sexual assault, there's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: no way. Like I recently had this argument or discussion
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: with groc and I found out that feminists, after the
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: mandatory arrest laws came in, that they demanded the mandatory
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: rest laws came in, and the arrests of women shot
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: up like a fourteen fourteen because police were forced to
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: now arrest the female abusers that they used to let off. Well,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: so they started arresting them. And then the feminists were like, no, oh,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: wait what And instead of going back to the statistics
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: and saying, well, maybe the conflict statistics tables were accurate
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: and were genuinely reflecting reality, they noped out of all
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: of it, like that the all of the statistics that
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: said that men and women are equally violently said, no,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: this isn't confirmation of that. No, this is confirmation that
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: the police are biased against women. So they instituted all
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: kinds of policies and oversights. And it was based on
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: this study that found only twelve percent of women were
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: falsely accused, whereas studies have been looking like looking into
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: the situation for men, and for example, a man who
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: is abused is more likely to be go to jail
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: based on a false accusation by his abuser than she is.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: So men are horribly biased against male victims of domestic violence,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: are horribly biased against in the system initially, and further
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: biased against bi feminist policy. And it's like this is
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: something that men cannot get away from. They can't say,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: you know what, I just won't date a female narcissist. Well, unfortunately,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: no matter what woman you date, she's still gonna have
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: the same powers, the same legal empowerment. So that's a
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: different that is a very different than what she's doing.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: She's saying all men are like this, all right, they're not,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: And that is an incredibly nasty thing to say about men. Okay,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: all right, let's do it. Let's go into all.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Right, So we're gonna be taking an intermission on the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: If you're watching this on the horizontal stream, this stream
• 1:19:43
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• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: intermission while we set up for the next half of
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: the show or part of the show. If you're watching
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: on the vertical, this stream is gonna end. So if
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: you're watching on mobile and you're looking at a vertical layout,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: this stream is gonna end. There will be another one,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: a new one starting up in a little.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Before we do that. I just want to remind everyone
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: we are doing. You know this this small it's a
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: small fundraisers, only four hundred and twenty buckeroo left and
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: I we really like to get it done by Sunday
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: because I have other.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's basically because I had to pay for a
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: rental temporarily while my car is being worked on. It
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: is insured, so it's not like I was, you know,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: irresponsible in that way. But I'm a very defensive driver.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: But so I didn't get like the rental because it
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: was going to raise my insurance more So, I have
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: to pay for the rental, which I'm currently driving. It's
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: a temporary car while I'm waiting for my car to
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: be fixed, which needs the whole front replaced because of
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: the freaking deer. So I'm just letting you know that's
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: what it's covering. So and that way, because it could
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: take them a while, I got to use I'm probably
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: gonna have to drive the rental to go to Hannah's
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: meet up next weekend, not this weekend, but next weekend.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: But I will be there with Lindsey, not Jojo, because
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: we can't bring them. We're gonna be in the mall.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: So we've got a sitter to watch him. And then
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: I'm really sure I'll have my car back well before
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: the next meetup, so I'll be able to drive it
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  Speaker 1: to Canada.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: So okay, but that's the situation that we're dealing with.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: I have put a link into the horizontal chat. Please,
• 1:21:28
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• 1:21:31
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• 1:21:41
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• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: is in the horizontal stream chat. It's also in the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: low bar. So maybe take this this intermission as an
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: opportunity to go there, because I know you don't want
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: to leave because we're so engaging in our in our discourse.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: But take it as an opportunity to go singles for you.
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  Speaker 1: Guys on rumbles, stick around. This stream is not over,
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  Speaker 1: so no, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: Not nearly over. We have more we have more Thoughttery
• 1:22:13
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• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: you're on the horizontal chat, we are just why sorry,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: If you're on the vertical chat, why get over the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: horizontal all right?
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get over there. All right. We're going to go
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: on to murder mission now and I'll see you guys
• 1:22:31
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  Speaker 7: Name things that really do make you a better feminist
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 7: than everybody else. Vomega published number one. Being a woman,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 7: you can be a very powerful allie to feminist even
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 7: if you are male. But you're never fool. You're going
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 7: to get the female experience because women are the group
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 7: of humans who are oppressed under patriarchy. As a class,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 7: men are the dominant group of humans in that system.
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  Speaker 7: Women are the ones whom leads the movements towards their
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 7: own liberation. Young woman is central for being a feminist
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: because feminism is movement.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: It is by and for women, while men are also
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 8: impacted negatively by patriarchy.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 7: Recalinity starts two. In the end, it is men who
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 7: have always benefited from it and women who have suffered
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: under it. That's the hands of men. The best way
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 7: to support a feminist movement as a man is to
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 7: challenge other men male privilege, male incitement, and male violence.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 7: In fact, this is a great help and saves us
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 7: the time of having to constantly be explaining to every
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 7: single man we beat why we are not actually sex toys.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 7: You could do all this without calling yourself a feminist,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 7: and sure don't tell boys. Number two. Standing with feminism
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 7: is not a feeling or an identity about a political movement.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 7: Feminism is not about wearing a T shirt that's testing.
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  Speaker 7: It isn't about saying you're a feminist just for the
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 7: sake of saying it, even if you have no interest
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 7: in liberating women from patriarchal oppression. It's okay to be
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 7: new to feminism and learning. You don't have to know
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 7: everything about the movement in order to join, but you
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: do have to understand that it is not a malorable word,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 7: a logo, or remarketable product. No one would ever say
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 7: socialism is whatever you make of it. You do, you
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: bro what, because that is stupid and also perfectually incorrect.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 7: If you think that objectrifying women, or strict harassment or
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 7: male entitlement or gender stereoterhaps or sexualizing violence against women
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 7: is good and the okay, who aren't a feminists? Taking
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 7: a selfie or getting married, or wearing the letters or
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 7: making a bunch of managers not a great to feminism. Yes,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 7: feminists are allowed to do these things. See how that works.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: Because feminism isn't about you, as an individual feeling personally
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 7: good or empowered in the moment. Who could feel empowered,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 7: but that doesn't necessarily produce feminism. Similarly, feeling good which
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 7: is not in greater empowerment empowerment in the context of
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 7: feminism in social empowerment for a group of marginalized people,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 7: in this case women.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: This is way.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 7: For example, posing newde and feeling sexy in a fashion
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 7: or porn magazine might feel good for the individual doing it.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 7: You will receive positive reinforcement, feel attractive, profit financially, et cetera,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: but does not constitute empowerment as it does not lift
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  Speaker 7: up women as a class. Number three, cutting out this
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 7: anti intellectual pulsh omt you guys. Thinking is not a
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 7: bad thing. Of course, you don't need an agree to
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: do feminism shith But by the same token, all this
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 7: fuck your ivory tower ideology fuck fairly, fuck yeah stuff
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 7: is counterproductive and ignorant. There is no activism without ideology.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 7: Ideology is the body of ideas that frames a political movement.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: We need that otherwise, how the fuck do we know
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 7: what we're doing? What's that we're just taking? Selfish and
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 7: shouting into sectionality at each other on Twitter. Good then
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 7: fuck ideology, fuck movements.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Likewise, understanding the history of the movement is a good figure.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 7: It shows we don't reinvent the wheel over and over again.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 7: It ensures me don't rewrite history, effectively raising the work
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 7: in activism with thousands and thousands of women who fought
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 7: for the rights as.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: We enjoy today.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: Understanding how to think critically, Understanding feminist ideology, understanding feminist history.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 7: These things are not for snobbish elites. These are the
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 7: These are things that are foundational. Otherwise we achieve nothing
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 7: and we are left blind screaming such power into the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 7: avirtual a bit. Education in academia are not bad things.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 7: They are good things that have been made inaccessible to
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 7: so many people throughout the world and or have left
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 7: many of us with the crippling debt. But education is
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 7: not the problem. The system is free post secondary schools
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 7: of feminist issue hashtag it understanding that feminism is not
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 7: about being policially correct. Please don't misunderstand.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Me on this one.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: Being a feminist means one must be thoughtful about one's
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: words and actions, saying and doing whatever the fact, we
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 7: want whenever we want is selfish, irresponsible, and different now,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 7: But our efforts to avoid being self indulgentt offensive teenagers
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: need not lead to political correctness. Being a feminist means
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 7: you think critically about the world around you. You take
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: nothing at face value.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: When you question the state's quo, you tell the truth,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: even if that truth makes people uncomfortable. Change makes people uncomfortable.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 8: Questioning dominant ideology makes people uncomfortable. Being politically correct means
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: making sure you don't pass anyone off. It means you
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 8: tell the party line. That party line might well be
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 8: a progressive or liberal party line, might even be a
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 8: party line that some have deemed feminists, but it's still
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 8: party line. The moment you stop thinking of yourself, start
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 8: repeating mantras your pairs repeat without thinking about whether whether
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 8: or not the manter actually makes sense, stop being brave,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 8: stop questioning the ideology and messages behind the popular discourse
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 8: is the moment you become not an agent of change,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: but are lemming.
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  Speaker 7: So many feminists today are scared to say it that
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: the controversial, and it's depressing as fuck. Young feminists are
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 7: a treat to speak out question popularly discourse. This they
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 7: be labeled to begot saw some version of food. Instead
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 7: of pushing back, we've become pushovers. The sent is a
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 7: good thing. Your ability to think for yourselves into question
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 7: the ideas that are assumed we correct is critical. Fuck
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 7: being politically quirre number five not being agists. At what
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 7: point did ageism become acceptable in feminism?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Oh right? Third wave?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: Okay, so we understand that rebellious teenagers want to you're
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 7: not my real mom, slams door. They're elders. But we
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: are not rebellious teenagers.
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  Speaker 1: We are adults.
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  Speaker 7: And if you are a feminist, it is not acceptable
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 7: to make second weave an insult. There is some women
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 7: hating anti feminist ages garbage, and if you want to
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 7: pull that shit, congratulations, you're doing patriarchy. Keep your ignorance
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 7: and keep perpetuating sexist notions as women than women who
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 7: are no longer youthful, our silly, old fashioned, brutish funding undies,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 7: clutching that pearls all the way to the old folk's
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  Speaker 7: home where they can stick to bringer. But know that
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 7: you're no feminist. Oh no movement women, no more than
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 7: you do. We aren't going anywhere up without them. Hametics
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  Speaker 7: not accusing feminists of hating sex and men like its mattering.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 7: Women are allowed to hate men and sex. Hating men
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 7: and sex is perfectly natural. Men and sex with men
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 7: has been a source of trauma for countless women over
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 7: the centuries. It is also perfectly natural to love particular
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 7: men and enjoy having sex. None of these realities are
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 7: things that to be used by feminists to insult, attack,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 7: or dismiss other feminists. By accusing feminists who challenge male
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 7: violence of hating sex or hating men, you are reenforcing
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: heteronormative garbage and feeding into stereotypes that say feminists are
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 7: just angry because they aren't getting fucked enough. These tropes
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 7: are connected to rape culture. Is the idea that men
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 7: can fuck women into passivity or fox them straight. Is
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 7: the idea of the only fuckable women at real women.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 7: The idea that women need men in order to be
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 7: old beings into matter they only exist in ragiant men.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 7: These are anti feminine ideas. Whether or not a woman
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 7: likes men or sex has no bearing on her worth
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 7: and whether or not her life, ideas, words, or activism
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 7: has meaning. What feminism fights against is the very idea
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 7: that women's relationships to men are what makes them visible
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 7: and valuable as humans. It's similar to attacking a woman
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 7: by saying she's ugly. Women do introduce to be looked
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  Speaker 7: at for to fuck men. They get to exist all
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 7: on their own. Take or lesbophobic sexism back to the
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 7: MRA for them their number seven not being an MRA.
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  Speaker 7: Speaking of ms you know what definitely makes to a
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 7: better feminist than everyone else. Fighting for women's rights, not
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: men's rights. And by that I mean rather than fighting
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 7: for the rights of men who want to pay if
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 7: for blow jobs, try fighting for women's human rights, which
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 7: include the ability to pay rent and feed themselves without
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 7: having to provide men with blow jobs. And often overlooked
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 7: but pivotal aspect of feminism is the idea that women
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 7: are human. That's right, We're radical like that, and because
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  Speaker 7: we are human, we deserve things like food and water
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  Speaker 7: and housing.
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  Speaker 1: Can we all right? We're back or we're starting, depending
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  Speaker 1: on how you look at it, and welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 1: This is continuation or the part two? Was this ring
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  Speaker 1: really cursed? Brad thought slap fights on Twitter slash x
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna be looking at Let me get the
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  Speaker 1: original tweet post, whatever they call it. So if you
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: are unfortunate enough to be on X, you might have
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: seen this going around. Then there's this conservative commentator I
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: kind of hesit. Hate to say it, but her name
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  Speaker 1: is Sarah Stock, and she made a post on X
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: simply titled or it just says I won. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a picture of her hand with an engagement ring on
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  Speaker 1: it in a field of flowers. And this started a
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: flame war amongst all of the traad thought women on X.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, but Sarah Stock was.
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  Speaker 1: I believe this woman. She kind of like came out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere. She was on a Jubilee episode and she
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  Speaker 1: was part of one of those like panels which is like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one person versus twenty. It was like one
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  Speaker 1: versus twenty. You ever seen those, Alison. I think we
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  Speaker 1: had a video on it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I know of them. I probably couldn't
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  Speaker 3: know more about them, but yeah, I know of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. She basically like was a part of one of
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  Speaker 1: those one of those panel discussions, those like twenty verses,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that she was on like it was
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  Speaker 1: like Sam Cedter was the guy in the middle and
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: she was one of the people who confronted him. I'm
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: bringing that up because so we know, like why anyone
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  Speaker 1: gives a shit about what this woman says because she
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  Speaker 1: was a blonde, white woman that is right wing, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean like in a normal conservative way, but
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  Speaker 1: kind of like one of these dissident right like paleocon
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  Speaker 1: types that has basically like risen up in the last
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  Speaker 1: like five six years or so. And so that's her
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: whole thing, right, And there is a lot of fracturing,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of infighting going on on the non left.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I call it the non left, because they're
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: all they like, they don't they don't know what they
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  Speaker 1: stand for. They're they're fighting each other about what it
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: should look like, and because there is no unified force,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like everybody else. So anyway, she made this
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  Speaker 1: post and it caused a lot of a stir. Now
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the timeline is. Most people appear
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  Speaker 1: to be like just generally happy for her to see.
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  Speaker 1: You know, uber, soys is powerful. Glad I'm the husband,
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  Speaker 1: so I guess this is the guy. Congrats, marriage is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Does Charlie Kirk Rachel Wilson relations? So yeah, most people
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  Speaker 1: are fine. But then like, I don't know, was this
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  Speaker 1: what you sent me? Is this in order? Do you
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about this? I mean, I can see
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  Speaker 1: this as a flex basically, but yeah, it's a flex.
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  Speaker 3: We can get into that in just a moment. Again,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: I want to remind everyone feedbadger dot com slash just
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  Speaker 3: the tip. You want to send us a comments in
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  Speaker 3: the tip talk about what we're talking about. I know
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: that this is what's on everybody's lips, and I figure
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: it's maybe it good to look at because it sort
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: of illustrates something. Women on the right part of the
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: spectrum aren't necessarily men's friends, and they are still in
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: that sphere where things are defined by competition with other women,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: which doesn't mean like women who criticize other women aren't
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: necessarily pro male. Now that sounds like maybe that's a
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: controversial thing to say. And in terms of this particular tweet,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say that, you know, like Sarah
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  Speaker 3: Sauk is a bad person, but honestly, she had to
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  Speaker 3: know that she was getting on the highest ground in
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  Speaker 3: the vicinity. You know, she's on getting onto the mound
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  Speaker 3: and saying come at me, bro to all of the
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: women on Twitter, now some of them are just like, oh, congratulations,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: but this is a challenge. And when she says I won,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: what did she win? Right? This is a challenge.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean personally, I wouldn't be like I probably would
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: have congratulate related her, you know, I mean, it's not
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: really my thing, Like I don't like to throw things
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: out in public like this necessarily like personal stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, but I mean I certainly wouldn't flock in
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: and startling slinging mud, which we will see when you
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: look at the retweets, Brian. But but on the other hand,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't like she did go into this with
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: a competition mentality like what did she win and who
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: did she win? As opposed to other women. And I
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: understand like the desire to do it, because there's so
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: much pushback against seeing women who get married as actually
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: having achieved something rather than just being duped into something.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: So there's there's that, there's that element. But when you
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: throw your hat in the Twitter ring this, you know
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: this will result in it and of course that you
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: know it's it's interesting to look at it because again,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: women who judge and criticize other women don't necessarily care
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: about men. And I think that there's some merit to
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: what Pearl ends up saying. But we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 3: So let's look at the retweets and have a look.
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  Speaker 1: See. So it's just the uh let me see. H
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  Speaker 1: are you talking about this one? Yeah? No, uh please
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  Speaker 1: be Indian from the Mubai. So they're trying to like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I've been talking about. Look up for them.
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  Speaker 1: Pause those big hands. I guess a pearl pictured wedding ring,
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  Speaker 1: not pictured the man. Yeah, yeah, I mean to.
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  Speaker 3: Be honest that that is that. She does have a point. However,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: I would give Stara Stock some leeway because that was
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: a ring that her fiance made her and she got
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: the diamond from her grandma, so it was something that
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  Speaker 3: was very personal. And then you know, and but of
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: all of the criticism, I think Davis's criticism is probably
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: the most on point. She's making this about competition with
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: other women women when one.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: Of them posts an engagement picks cats fighting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look at that.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here we go that small ass ring lmao.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: That's what it became about, like the size of even
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: though the ring was very personalized, like she her fiance
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: made it for her, which is you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: that's pretty exceptional. I probably know personally, I probably would
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: have emphasized that. But maybe with a picture of the
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: forging of the ring, you know, make it into an epic.
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  Speaker 3: But but yeah, that's uh but yeah, So a whole
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: bunch of other other women swanned in and talked about.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: How her Yeah, miss Cherry Perez, I just want to
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: show off my ring since everyone is raging about ring sizes,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: showing off her ring.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So then it becomes about a competition between women
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: over which one of their partners is. Oh, and here
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: we go. We got the feminist piping up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Rowena, A lifetime of servitude is not winning, sweaty.
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  Speaker 1: But you'll find out in due time, like most wives
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: eventually do. Okay, So very supportive. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like in honestly, again, time use studies, and I've done
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: multiple analyzes of them using rock, so they will you know,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: for example, the research will present a particular facet of
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  Speaker 3: time use studies. But time use studies don't include difficult
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: tasks like major repairs around the house, canical repairs, I
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: don't think they. I also don't think they include like
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: small appliance repairs, so computer repairs or anything like that,
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  Speaker 3: which are things that are commonly done by men.
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  Speaker 4: So I got.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: I actually drilled down into those studies on time use,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: and first of all, even the ones that don't look
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: at the full picture of everybody's time use, even those
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: ones still find that it is a pretty small difference
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: between what women do and what men do in Western countries,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: like maybe half an hour a week favor of women.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: But when you start drilling down into the studies and
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: you ask things like, okay, well, add in all of
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: the major repairs, all of the small appliance repairs and
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: mechanical work that men do, and then you say, okay,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: add in the commuting time, which is something else that
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: it doesn't include, all right, and then add in the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: amortization of workplace deaths. So for the most part, when
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: men are working, they're working very different jobs than women.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: They're working dangerous, uncomfortable, incredibly stressful jobs. So what I
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: did is I said to grok Okay, estimate how many
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: years men lose to stress based based just stress based illnesses,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: not just the total amount that men live less than women,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: but just stress based illnesses due to jobs and Groq
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  Speaker 3: estimated about one to two years. I think that's per
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: man and then we amortize that one to two over
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: the working life of the average man. And what ended
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  Speaker 3: up happening is when you include everything, excuse me, the
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: types of repairs that men do, so the whole scope
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: of the domestic stuff that men do, the whole scope
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: of the commuting, and the whole scope of what men
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: lose to be primary providers, the gap in hours drastically
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: shifts in favor of men. So men are now doing
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: ten hours a week more than women when you include
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: in all of those factors. Yeah, so, honestly, a husband
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: is a really good investment for a wife. I don't
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: know if we really want to look at it in
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: those terms, but certainly we shouldn't think that she's losing out.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: And it gets even better if she stays at home,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: because stay at homes, stay at home wives, and this
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: is all stay at home wives, even those with children,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: work half as much as every other person in society. Now,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say that that isn't worth it
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: to the families that do it, right, that's their choice,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: and maybe they prefer an unstressed woman who's who is
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: a primary character with the children. That's their business. But
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: there is no way you can frame that as some
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: kind of horrible imposition on women when they are gaining
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: an extra twenty five hours a week to do with
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: as they will. That's not an imposition, nor should it
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: be framed as such. So this feminist wrong. I should
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: have just said that it's wrong.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: In short, she is wrong. She is wrong, all right,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: all right, So no fear here. And I think this
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: is a woman says friendly reminder to book a manicure
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: appointment for your girlfriend before you propose. So this is like, oh,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: a very like backhanded comment about the ring because she's
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: showing off her hand too, and of course Nofir has
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: words about her manicure. I guess Pearl again retweeted and
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: said hottest right wing egirl taking off the market and this,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: And when I think, honestly, Sarah Stock being the hottest
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: right wing egirl, that's just kind of like she was
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: in fashion for a little while, because she was on
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Jubilee like twice and she said like the most like
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I guess base things according to the paleocons,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: but even like even then, like I don't I wouldn't.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I wouldn't call her the hottest but anyway,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: hottest right wing egirl taking off the market. Conservative women
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: will always use their marriage and family to build their brand,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: and I think I think there's some truth to that.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's true to it.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Rachel Wilson defends her. She says, instead of congratulating her,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: their idiot basement dwellers telling her to log off the internet.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: The people who are supposed to be right wing traditionalists
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: who want to see the return of family are pestering
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: her and telling her to get off the internet? Are
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: you guys stupid? And most of those are women. So
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: I know that she says basement dwellers, but I don't
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: think that that means men.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean no, I mean, it's not the
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: most egregious of things to ever for a person to
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: have ever done. It's definitely not the most egregious of things. However,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: this is maybe get off the violence because we're gonna
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: get Yeah, However, there is some room for comment and criticism.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: I think, not as much as she did get. But however,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: she did, you know, find the highest ground in the
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: vicinity and basically say, come at me bro, So yeah.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: You know, no, I get it's a flex That's what
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, she's yeah, like this is this is
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: like social media call of duty for women. She got like,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: you know, what do they call it? Like multi kill
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: or something, you know, like a like a quintuple kill.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: And she's sharing the highlight on on her page to
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: flex on the other women, and some of them are
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: reacting poorly because this is intersexual competition expression whatever. Right, Yeah,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: some of them are going to react as jealous trad thoughts,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: and some of them are going to react as angry feminists.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: Most of it is, most of the negativity is other women, though,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: I mean most of the men are either indifferent or
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: they're joking about the fighting. Yeah, what I've seen, so
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: Just women, So okay, yeah it is. It is mostly women. Also, yeah,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's I don't think it's deserved, certainly
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: not this.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: So small loll zintani.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: This is like this is I think that again, Pearl
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: has the most on point criticism. But at the other hand,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: we're dealing with an entire society that just marginalizes women
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: marrying men and treats them like dupes. Instead of having
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: actually achieved something. So I can understand it that she
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: wanted to be like, no, I've achieved something. I've I've
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: done something that's worth celebrating and worth being lauded for.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: So I get that, like a personal style wouldn't do it.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: But you know, like it's not of all the unwholesome
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: things on the internet, this is one of the least
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: unwholesome guys. And a lot of this criticism is just
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: absolutely bitter and oh for sure and just ridiculously so
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: like why is it so small? So what is this
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: engagement ring shaming? Like we got this the small penis shaming,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: and now we got this a small engagement ring shaming?
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: Is this the new thing now? The new bullying? Actually,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: going back, there was one that I wanted to do.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: Oh god lord, what this one?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: Or women these days only want to get married that
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: I want to be? Why?
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, So there was a little bit of pushback from
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: from individuals who are more on the right end of
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: the spectrum. I mean, it's something to consider.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a common thing that like there's a saying
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: that women want weddings, but that doesn't mean they want
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: to be wives. You know, because when you know that
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: a wedding, you're the center of attention for it's your
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: whole day. You've ever seen those like what do they
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: call them? The reality show with the housewives that are
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: like planning their wedding or not housewives, but they're like
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: the brides something brides, I forget what it's called, but
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: they like throw tantrums, you know, over and the bridezilladzillas.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean she did put a post where
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: she said, is there a married women, is there anything
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: you'd want to consider about? Tell me about your marriage day?
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: And it was on her actual timeline, and I basically said, well,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: you're marrying a man, not a ceremony. But that's about it.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, nothing that necessary would that she's necessarily
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: doing that, but just that that's about all I all
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: the advice I can give on wedding. All right. So
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: so that was pearls Now, let's say, let's take a
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: listen to that other individual that I sent you. Let
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: me get her news.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: I got the links. Ready, is it this one when
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: the hater? Okay, I think so Emily gold Digs America
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: unmarried best friend who is apparently a makeup America Hot
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: Again representative decided to make a video detailing all of
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: the possible reasons to hate on other women's engagement ring.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 9: If someone has their little ring and they're happy with that,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 9: let them be happy, be married for love.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 6: Okay, remember that when you visit them and they're check
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 6: down the road. I'm kidding you, hater.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 9: Conditions do apply here. Number one, did they come for
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 9: you first? If you want peace, you should have stayed silent.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 6: If they talked shitn't have got back to you.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 9: Gossip is a boomerang baby girl if she accepted a
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 9: thirty seven dollars ring. I mean, someone has to marry
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 9: the losers, so like, let them live. That man is
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 9: already struggling with already as it is, Like, don't be
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 9: a hater because like, don't get me wrong, I am
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 9: sending that photo around in my group Chop.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 6: But like that one's kind of mean. I kind of
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 6: disagree with number four, but I'm tied at the number five.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 9: Here's the thing, it's always the former mean girl who's
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 9: posting her tiny ass ring, and like it shows.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 6: That karma Israel because she us would be mean. You
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 6: can go for her, you can come for her.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Medio.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm think I think she.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: Thinks this is like this is like satire or comedy,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: but it just comes across as really mean spirited, and.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: Well maybe it was intended to be satire. Of the
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: original lists.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: That reminds me of the Dave Chappelle sketch the player
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: haters Ball.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: It's just like a window into a mind that I've
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: I It's very unfamiliar. Yeah, it's like the stitch in
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: the space time continuum and I'm looking at an alien world.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: This is shit that women do with each other. Huh,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: why would you want female friends? Why do you want
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: to open your life to this? Like, I mean, if
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: you're a lesbian, you have no choice, presumably unless you
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: are a political lesbian, which in which case people do
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of things that are absolutely self destructive in
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: the name of their politics. So enjoy, But why would
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: you choose to let this into your life in any
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: context whatsoever? Like answer for yourselves? Women? Now I know
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: this isn't all women, but Jesus Christ, this behavior is
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: so freaking prevalent. And do you do the women who
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: are like not like this, do they lean on their
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: sisters not to do this? Crap. Like I've been watching
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: the Alexander Gray stuff and I've seen things like groups
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: of women mocking men. One of them will get texts
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: from a paramour and she'll read them out loud and
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: they're all like the dozen, you know, to an audience
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: of a dozen of her closest friends, and they'll all
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: be laughing. But apparently women also do this to other women.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: This is not just turning men off of women. This
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: is turning women off of women. Because I don't I
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: don't want to open myself up to this shit. I
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: mean I do, like I'm quite honest, Like on Twitter,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is a couple of days ago, I
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: got into a slap fight. I was like, this is
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: this is a slap fight of the Mids, Like this
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: is the War of the Mids. Because it was me
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: against another girl who was telling me that I was
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: harassing a beautiful, rich princess and I'm like, no, you're
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: a mid just like me. We're mids. You're a mid
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: in the mid Kingdom like I am also, And she
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: was like and she had she had other trophies in
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: her belt of other mid girls that she had gone after,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: even though she is also mid so I retweeted that
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: and I said, Mid, no sorry hunter of her own kind,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: Mid going after Mid like it's but there's the thing, like,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: this is what is And again I didn't start this
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: until she started the ship, right, yeah, but then I
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: did bring the ship, so that's on me. But regardless,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: like this is this is behavior that's just really off putting,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: and there's no nobody, there's no counsel of non juvenile
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: women grabbing these women's ears and shaking them and saying
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: stop doing and do things. There's no oversight. Of course,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: it is Twitter, so there's no oversight period. It's just
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: a ball of rage. Okay.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: I mean there are some women that are like coming
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: to her defense, to be fair, yes, and then they're
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: saying that these other women are being mean or they're
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: jealous or whatever. So there is some something of a
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: support network, but it's not like top down or anything
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, But the but the other thing is
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: that women do this and they don't seem to realize
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: how badly it reflects on them, Like maybe.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: They who knows, maybe they're just.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Men aren't going to say anything because.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: All right, no he said something about her her Uh yeah,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: I was a little bit disappointed with that, like it's yeah,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, she's bragging a bit. But honestly, I
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: would have led with the story of the engagement ring
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: because it's pretty cool, like using silver that her father
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: or her her her husband. He actually salvaged it, I think,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: and he made the cast and he used her grandmother's diamond.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: That's that's cool.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: I would have led with that. But she led with
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: what she wanted to, and certainly the response is is ridiculous.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: But on the other hand, she's also you know, come
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: at me bro in the original tweet.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, sure, I think that's what it was. Let
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: me play the rest of this clip.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 6: Pretty I reacted accordingly.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 9: And number seven, if you simply feel like it, not
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 9: every eater has a trigger. Some of us are just
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 9: free lambs. Honestly, just remember be happy for other people.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: But like exceptions do apply.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: You can come for people, come for people for what.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: This is encouraging that toxic competition between women, that's destroying
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: relationships between men and women, and it has nothing. It
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: actually isn't that men are losers or that are significantly
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 3: worse than men in the past. Because get this, the
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: men today did all of the work or are a
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: result of men in the past doing all of the
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: work that women ask them to do, to relinquish their spaces,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: to relinquish their successes, to relinquish all of this stuff.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: These these young men are a product of that, and
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: yet women don't want them.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 6: And you know what it is.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with men's lack of spiritual
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: or emotional maturity, or I don't see young men being
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: any less immature or any more immature than young women.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: Has nothing to do with that. It is this toxic
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: competition between women. That is what it is. There is
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: no control over it. There is in most churches, no offense.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: Do not have the capacity to control it. The woke
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: establishment does not have the capacity to even recognize it.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: So there's no control over it. And our society is
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: being torn apart, not because men are losers, but because
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: women are engaging in this level of toxic competition with
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: each other and they cannot leave it alone. Right Everything
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: has to be about insulting or appropriating or creating resources, clout, attention, whatever.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: It's all these colaws tearing at everything, and nothing can
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: be built right now, Once again, I would say, Pearl
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: has the closest to any kind of a reasonable statement
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: least are first one. But the rest of this is
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: nonsense and it's all just female competition. Like I remember
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: going on one of Pearl's secondary streams and I brought
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: up that this current landscape has almost nothing to do
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: with men. I know people really struggle with that has
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with men. And this is why men
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: can't solve it, because it has nothing to do with them.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: It is about toxic female competition. And when the urge
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: to urge, as I call it, gets into these women,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: there is nothing. Men can do, nothing because she wants
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: a man who all our friends are gonna be jealous of.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: And the only man that applies to is men who
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: are above her and men who are desired by multiple women,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: which is not the average man. What are you gonna do?
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 3: And it can never be the average man because if
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: the average man, if we waved our wand and they
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: turned all men into chad, women in competition with other
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: women would develop an even more fine tuned list to
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 3: target the top ten percent of the chads in order
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: to make each other jealous. The problem is the competition
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: between women and what are men supposed to do about that.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: Every woman wants to be carted, have to have a
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: wheelbarrow to cart around her damn fricking engagement ring because
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: it's the size of an elephant's testicle.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: What can men do?
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: Right? This has nothing to do with them. But maybe
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: they can start creating those things. You know, maybe we
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: can blast open some more mines in Africa, like mountains
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: in Africa and send, you know, twelve year old boys
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: who are starved down to the size of a six
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: year old into those mines to grab those freaking diamonds
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 3: for you ladies. Maybe we could do that. But then
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 3: the diamonds the size of an elephant's testicle won't be enough.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: They'll have to be a diamond the size of a
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: small asteroid, or a diamond the size of a small satellite. Right,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: it's never enough because it's always a moving target. This
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: jealousy and this grasping jealousy creates everything becomes a moving target,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: and men cannot do anything. They cannot fulfill this. It
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: is impossible. Calm down, all.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: Right, that's fine. Oh uh yeah. There's a lot of
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: support in the commentative comments from Chrissy Mayor Rachel Wilson Robin.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: I think I feel like I know this person, but
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I know them, So there is
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: some of that. But is there something else you want
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: me to bring up? Look at it? Okay?
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 3: Is this supposed to be satire or is this the
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: kind of thing where they do believe it genuinely and
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: then they just post it and it'say, oh haa, this
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: is actually not I mean, well, no, I.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: Think comments are supportive of Sarah Stock, but I think
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: this woman is legit like trying to be a hater
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: but trying to make it into a joke to give
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: them enough you know, plausible deniability, so that this is
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: the way women work though, right, that's like, do you
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: catch any duper's delight in the video when you're watching it?
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: I think there is?
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'd have to look at it again a
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: little more closely.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: Let's see way to.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 9: Play it, see if it's basically have a degree on
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 9: how to be a hater at this point, So let
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 9: me share some tips when to be a hater, specifically
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 9: the rules of engagement ring.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 6: No, I don't have a ring, so I'm allowed to
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 6: be a hater. And yes, they do send your engagement
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 6: pictures around to my friends and like usually talk shit.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 6: Sometimes you deserve better. Rule number one, let them be happed.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 6: You know it hurts someone has their little ring in
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: their work.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: If a woman is going to be married, she knows
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: this is going to happen. She knows this is going
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: to happen. She knows her engagement pics are going to
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: be traveling the femisphere, and everybody's gonna get their beak
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: out to make their freaking little peck at it. Right,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 3: all the hens are gonna gather to peck at peck
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: it to death.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: And so what is she?
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: So what happens to her relationship with her man? What
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: if he isn't capable of getting a diamond the side
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 3: of an elephant testicle? And she knows all of her
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 3: queenie friends are going to be all over that like
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: white on rice. Where does the resentment flow? Do you
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: think she's got the fucking balls to tell this bitch
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 3: out and say stuff it? No, the resentment is going
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 3: to flow towards her husband, or her future husband, her
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 3: future fiance. And that's what's really devilish about all of this.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: This is something that is one hundred percent generated by
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 3: the femosphere. This jealousy, this gimlet eyed resentment towards what
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 3: any other woman gets that you don't get, is one
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: hundred percent generated by the femosphere. It is one percent
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 3: a moving target. And women will one hundred turn around
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 3: and take all of the shit they get from their
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 3: sisters and dump it on men. And men are supposed
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 3: to continually absorb this resentment, continually take it on, continue,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 3: or they're expected to rise up to it. She well,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: she's gonna be dumped on her by her sisters because
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 3: of her engagement ring is the size of a baseball
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 3: rather than an elephant testicle. Well, you better work those
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: seventy hour weeks, those eighty hour weeks, those ninety hour weeks,
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: so you can afford a ridiculously sized engagement ring, so
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 3: that she can compete with her friends, who who will
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 3: always find something to bitch about. This is utterly toxic, right,
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 3: this is utterly destructed. This individual is utterly destructive. And again,
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 3: nothing that the woman whose name is escaping me. O,
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 3: good lord, I've lost my mind. Yeah, nothing that she
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 3: did deserves this. No, but again like you did, go
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 3: come at me, bro, But still nothing she did deserved.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: It, if she accepted it, they saw it there, like,
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: look at her that right there? Yeah, is that it?
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: It's like kind of a crooked grin.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 3: Learn to take learn compsion compersion, ladies. Learn to take
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 3: pleasure in the triumphs of your friends. Learn to celebrate
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: the triumphs of your friends. Learn to feel like if
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 3: your friends are getting a good life, not necessarily a
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 3: rich life or whatever mean spirited list of crap that
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 3: you have, if they are getting the life that they want,
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 3: feel happy for them. Like, this is such ugliness. And
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 3: again we put it on men. All of these commentators
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: are saying, oh, the male loser epidemic, all, you know,
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: man up and beaten. No, no, first of all, moving target.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 3: Oh men can't be the top ten percent of men
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 3: that can make this woman's female friends jealous. It's just
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: not possible. And also this is on women. Yep, Okay, all.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: Right, Well that was it. I just want to share that.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: So what should we look at next?
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 3: Look the stuff with Pearl. But again Pearl wades into
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 3: it as well, Like I think same thing applies with Pearl,
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 3: possibly even more so because Pearl is this isn't her
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 3: first rodeo.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: So this is so this is a different Oh yeah,
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: they're sharing. This is another person sharing their ring as
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: a means of like countering. I guess so this says healthy.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: I'll post ring. I don't know anything. I think it's
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: a carrot or just under looks good on my hand,
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: and a guy I love bought it for me. It's
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: the most beautiful thing I've ever worn. And then pearl
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: again pictured ring not pictured husband and we have John
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: Davis Aubourgeois. So yeah, people generally, I mean the people
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: who comment on somebody's main posts are generally in support
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: of that post most of the time, except for ye, this.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: Is a better use of pearls acid tongue. I think
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 3: great here as opposed to you on Sarah because you know,
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 3: like Sarah again that that ring is now an heirloom
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 3: because of the way it was crafted, so you know,
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 3: like props for that, and it's and this woman is yeah, bullshit,
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 3: you don't know how many carrots. I bet you know
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 3: how many carrots are to like the point tenth of
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: a gram. Yeah, it's like quail egg plus like in set. Okay, yeah,
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: all right, so yeah, this this is a good This
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 3: is a better use of pearls than venom, which is
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 3: women who look at this in terms of competition with
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 3: other women, their relationship in terms of competition with other women.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: And what gets really creepy is a lot of these
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 3: women just get into relationships with men out of competition
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 3: with other women. He has nothing to do with the man,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: and not even much to do with the men's virtues.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: Like if we all lived in Cavemanland and the top
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: ten percent of men just had the nicest, like freaking rock,
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 3: then that would be that would be right. It's it's not.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 3: It really does nothing to do with men. It's just
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: the top ten percent, that's it. And I hope I
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 3: don't have to explain this mathematically. That is not a
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 3: functional society, all right, all right, So.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: Myron gains he had something to say, is Myron Gains
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: from Fresh and Fit And he says he basically used
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: a screenshot of Sarah stocks photo and this woman's comment,
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: why is it so small? Lol? Is Abella Maria de
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: Luca just another woman that was basically commenting on the
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: size of the rock. And Myron says, women are their
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: own worst enemies, says West, But I think he meant
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: worst Sarah at Sarah Stock got proposed to, and I
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: see multiple tread grifting thoughts like Isabella de Luca and
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: at Emily saves Usa trying to throw shade in the comments.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: I'm extremely critical of women and feminism, but I will
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: never insult a woman for doing her job, finding a
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: man and creating a nuclear family. As for the rest
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: of you, single hose, I will continue to cook you
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: for being single and unable to find a man, a
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: man you actually want, not a loser that will actually
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: marry you. I'm gonna continue cooking you thoughts. Congrats Sarah,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: So I basically use it as an opportunity to This
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: is kind of a male flex though, like look at me.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna cook you guys, and I'm gonna call
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: you out for being losers. But I guess he's like
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: lowering himself to their level or he's at their level,
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: and that's like his approach. So unfortunately, though, because he's
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: a man, I don't think it has the same effect.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: Although Sarah Stock to say male thanks to iron.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know what will happen effect. Yeah, okay, so
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 3: just go back up. Honestly, the thing is that well
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 3: to his to his statement, because there's one thing I
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 3: wanted to say, as with those use single hose, I
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: will continue to cook you for being single and unable
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 3: to find a man and men who actually want, not
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 3: a loser that will actually marry you. Okay. In order
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: for these single hoes to do that, they would have
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: to abandon or have the balls stand up to the
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: sisterhood and its toxic competition. Because that's that's I'm guessing
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 3: is one of the big reasons why women aren't settling
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 3: is because they're thinking of that moment when their engagement
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: picture gets shared around, or maybe their picture of them
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 3: and the fance gets shared around among the circle of harpies,
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 3: and what they're gonna say, But he settled for that?
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: What a lizer. He's only six foot five. My boyfriend's
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 3: seventeen feet all. He only gave you an engagement ring
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 3: that you can barely You have to carry your arm
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 3: in a sling. Well, my engagement ring, I require an
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 3: entire team of porters to move my arm, you know,
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 3: like that kind of shift. And women are thinking about that,
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 3: right They're thinking about that moment where they have to
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 3: expose their hopes and dreams to the Sisterhood and have
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: them pick pecked to death. And again, what the hell
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 3: are men supposed to do with all that? What are
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 3: they going to do except become sponges for the inevitable resentment?
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right? Richard b R gave us a super
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: Child for five dollars and says, should we be ordering
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: an extra Earth kit for I Kia at this point?
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: We need Earth? Yeah, an extra Earth because you said.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Yeah, yeah, I need quite a few more.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if IKEA makes those.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: The greater doors.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 3: Put in seventy five dollars to your fundraiser.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you appreciate that.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: So we are we have a few hundred and eighty
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 3: five dollars left and the end is Sunday. So if
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 3: you are able to help, please please put something through.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately I have to actually manually accept the pledges, so
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 3: it just takes a moment for things to update. Maybe
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 3: pop it on the screen there, do you have a link? Okay,
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 3: let people see it. I was thinking about going through
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 3: all of the the women who were calling saying that
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 3: pearl sucks, you know, black cock and that kind of thing,
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 3: and but I don't know, Pearl, you know what you're saying.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: They were just attacking her in some yeah.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And the funny thing is that hers was probably
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 3: the most legitimate criticism. You know, it is something yeah,
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 3: you know, Sarah should genuinely keep in mind, you're married out,
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: you're marrying a man and not a ceremony or a
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 3: state like being a wife, that kind of thing. And
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 3: and that's something that's legitimate. I think now I know
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 3: that you know, Pearl knows she's waiting in on it,
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: and I think that, to be fair, this story of
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: this particular engagement ring sort of softens that when it
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 3: comes to Sarah. So that's why I said, you know
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 3: that that other ring with the quail eggs sized diamond,
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 3: that that woman most definitely knows how many carrots are of,
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: even though she's like humble dragging.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, it's what I don't.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 3: I don't care about that.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: Here's a picture though, but I don't really care.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: I don't really care.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 3: It's not about the size of the ring, but it
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 3: is quite big, you know, like that that that definitely
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 3: that is definitely deserving of Pearl's acid tongue. Sarah, Like
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 3: I said, it's not. It's not the most unwholesome thing
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 3: I've seen, you know. All right, Okay, so there there's
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: that's Oh wait, no, we're at.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: No, it's it's.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: Actually three hundred, three hundred and forty five dollars left.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 3: I was I was incorrect, I was mathing wrong. Sorry,
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 3: I need to breathe.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: I need to breathe. Alison dropped, she dropped out. She'll
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: probably be back in the meantime. Well, I wanted to
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: get to the chaser. But yeah, there's a lot of rage.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: This basically became like a thing that lasted for a
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: few days. And of course they went after pearls like
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: you know, boy French voices. But I don't think it's
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: because like here, let me see is if Allison is back,
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: she's back. Okay, hold on, I gotta I gotta plug
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: your camera back in. People can't hear you right now,
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: so give me a second. I gotta plug you back in. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: basically all right, you should be there.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 3: It goes okay, all right, hello again, I accidentally hit
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 3: the button that yeah, yeah, yeah, that was dumb. Sorry guys. Yeah,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 3: so that's and then Parole got ship. But you know,
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 3: she's got to know that that's what's gonna happen.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, well what I was saying is that I
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: think that the her the women competing again. It's again,
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: it's like I said, it's call of duty for women. So,
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: like you go to a call of duty lobby and
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: the kids will call you all kinds of names, right,
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: They'll they'll call you gay, They'll they'll use racial slurs.
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: But it's not because they actually believe what they're saying.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: It's because it gets under your skin and they're trying
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: to get you upset. They're trying to trigger you, right,
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: It's not like they actually and I think this is
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: the same thing here. So you know, women they have
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: like a way of like getting like into the most
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: sensitive things to like hurt you emotionally. But it's not
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: because these are things that they actually believe. It's because
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: they know it works on you. So like you know,
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: and people like Delphine, which I talked about a while back.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: Belle Delphine was like a very popular e girl online
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: and she was selling the girlfriend experience on her Patreon
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: or something like that, I'll remember, and then she had
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to go on a podcast. I think it
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: was Ethan Kleine, and Ethan Klein was trying to get
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: her to like, you know, dog on the men that
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: give her money and pay for her OnlyFans and like
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: suggest that that she got stalker's or weirdos. But Belle
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: Delphine said, no, actually, the men are not really that mean.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: Even when they are, it's pretty mild. You know, they
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: call me horror or whatever. But the women are way
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: worse because they know how to like, they know how
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: to find your weaknesses, you know, at your imperfections. He'll
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: point out your your asymmetriies. You know, it's like these
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: little these whatever it takes, though, and I think that's
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: what they do. They're trying to do it to pearl
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: Is basically say oh, well you're because they'll call her,
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: they'll call her unattractive, they'll try to make her look ugly.
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: They'll they did the same thing with Sidney Sweeney, right,
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: they presented pictures of her without makeup and you'll be like,
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: look at her, she's gross, right, zoos to try to
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: like use filters to make all of her imperfections come
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: to the foe. It's just the tactics. It doesn't really
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: have anything to do with their belief system. It's really
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: just like, how can I do the most damage with
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: my words? I know, you know.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 3: It's really so it really speaks to this idea that
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 3: you know, women say, oh, we're.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: All oh yeah, no, the fangs come out, the claws.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: When come out?
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the the itemized list of all of your flaws
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 3: that they notice while yas lighting you by saying you're
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: a ten. What the hell is that? Like, they obviously
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: know every.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 1: Ten as long as you're as long as you're my.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: Ally, yes, they don't tell they've itemized every single flaw, right,
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 3: so they know that a woman is not a tent,
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 3: so they just bullshit about it and then yeah, that's right.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 3: And it gets you addicted to the adulation of the
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 3: sisterhood because men aren't you know, like when men judge women,
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: you know, they do it on the curve. They don't
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 3: actually pick out all of the of the tiny little things, right,
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 3: they don't, but women do, so they know. It's just
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 3: like that woman with the rock on her finger, like
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 3: the quail egg sized ring like diamond that she's like, oh,
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 3: I don't even I don't even I don't even know
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 3: how big it is. Right, She's like, she knows to
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 3: the tenth of the gram how many carrots that is.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 3: Every woman who says, oh, you're a perfect ten knows
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: to the micrometer all of your flaws, every single one
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: of them. And if you piss her off, she will
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 3: detail him. And the added humiliation. There's an added humiliation
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 3: to this because as she's detailing every one of your flaws,
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: you realize that she saw all of that while she
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 3: was saying you were a perfect ten, and you are
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 3: stupid enough, sucker enough to believe her. It is actually diabolical.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, ladies, do you really want to
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 3: be in this catocracy of the sisterhood? Do you want
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 3: to be subject to this for the rest of eternity?
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 3: Is this what you want? Like you no oversight over
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 3: women's shitty behavior. Nobody's saying, hey, no, stop that. And
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 3: that's the big thing again, not saying all women, but
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 3: there's no oversight, right, It's just like the like the
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 3: legal situation with women. You know, not all women are
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 3: gonna weaponize the legal system against men, but they all
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 3: have that option. Not all women are gonna engage in
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 3: this kind of nastiness, but they have the option. They're
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 3: gonna have that without the kind of social censure that
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 3: men would get if they did this. Hell, if they
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 3: did this, they probably think they were gay honestly, but really,
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: do you? Is this how you want to live your lives?
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: And this squalor and misery anyway, it's frustrating. But again,
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 3: for in terms of Pearl, I will say this, she
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 3: did run up to the mound like the high ground,
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 3: tackle Sarah, fling her off of it, and then say come.
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: At me, bro mm hm.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 3: So I like that she's exposing the hypocrisy. But on
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 3: the other hand, what did she expect?
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, you want to look at the chaser, then.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 3: Sure, let's look at the chaser.
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: All right, let's look at the chaser.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 10: I broke up with my boyfriend, someone I loved, someone
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 10: I have known for over ten years, because he didn't
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 10: stand up to misogynistic you can.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 3: I just point something out that filter is really trying hard.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: It's doing a lot of heavy lifting.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 3: It's doing a lot of heavy lifting.
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 6: Just finished watching adolescent A.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: You see how her jaw keeps shifting.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like either she's got like she filmed this on
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: like a VHS camera or she's got a filter that's
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting. Now
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 3: that's my caddy comment.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 10: All right, all right, up to misogynistic young men.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 6: When he was given the opportunity.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 10: We had just finished watching Adolescence, a mini series on
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 10: Netflix that essentially talks about how boys are being more
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 10: and more radicalized online, how parents aren't paying attention, and
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 10: how it's really up to men to help solve this
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 10: problem because they're surely not going to listen.
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 3: And before somebody tells me she's got like some kind
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 3: of stroke symptom.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: And their purpose of propaganda is just this why the
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: show exists. Like you can watch it and say, oh,
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: well I didn't get that message. I got this other message.
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter it worked. This woman took that away.
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: That was the purpose.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 10: Right behind us were two boys, probably eighteen or fourteen
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 10: years old, and they were saying things like Trump is
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 10: the best.
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 6: What has he ever done? He has more followers online.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 6: I don't get by no one would like him.
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 4: And I was seething because my six 's.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 10: Four handsome, white privileged boyfriend wasn't saying anything. And so
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 10: finally I stop, I turn around and I get right
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 10: in their face and I said, he's a fucking rapist,
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 10: He's a certified fucking rapist, and they go white in
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 10: the face.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, wait a second, All right, there's a civil suit
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 3: as far as.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: I know, And you don't want to be the one
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 1: with Egen Carrol. I don't know. I don't follow this well,
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: it's a rape accusation, Alison, Why don't you follow it well?
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 3: Because it's an accusation, right, do you know? What do
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 3: you know?
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: Do you know just how hair brained the accusation is,
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: that it's from like decades ago, and that the evidence
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: is like nonexistent, but that the activist courts pushed it
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: through because they wanted to damage the Orange Man's reputation,
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: and the media ran with it forever on loop. It's
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: way worse than Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby, So like,
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: why isn't that Well, I know, I know that it's
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: gonna affect people like this because people just believe it.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: They believe it because of the Billy Bush thing. Right, No,
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: that's why it's that's why it was a civil suit.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: There's no hope of a conviction. But the woman who
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: made the allegation is a nutcase. With no evidence. Okay,
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: this is like this should have been laughed out of
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: any court anywhere because the media ran with it and
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 1: everybody else got behind it. All of the people in
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: the cathedral, people like this woman just believe it because
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: it was on the news, and I want to believe it.
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: That's another thing. They want to believe it so we
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: know it's not true. If you guys know, the e
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: Gen Carroll thing, that's like the most ridiculous rape accusation ever,
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: like ever period, like for real. The woman is crazy
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: and drunk all the time, like you know. But anyway,
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: so yeah, she's saying certified because this is how propaganda works.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: This woman is like, this is a poe. I mean
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: she said, oh, we watched adolescents so important and then
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: what she's just fitting off the talking points that the
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: show has. Why then did Kiera Starmer say, oh that
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 1: this is a documentary it should be shown in schools.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's an accident? Do you think it's
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: because he's stupid? No, Like, there's a purpose behind all
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: and it works. The purpose of a system is what
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: it does. This is what is happening. So like the
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: Egen Carroll thing is just another layer of stupid. But
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: this woman just believes it. And what does she do here?
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: She confronts these kids, and she creates a hostile situation
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: with the express hope that her boyfriend is gonna intervene.
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: So essentially, she's one of these women that starts fights
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 1: that her boyfriend. Their boyfriends have to finish, right, So
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: let's uh, this is on purpose, and it's all because
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: of the propaganda.
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 10: Wasn't saying anything, and so finally I stop, I turn
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 10: around and I get right in their face and I said,
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 10: he's a he's a certified fucking rapist.
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 2: And they go white in the face.
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 6: Boyfriend still just standing there, not saying anything.
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 10: Once the boys get their bearings, they say something like
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 10: Trump is my daddy, Trump is your daddy.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 3: And I was furious.
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 4: I had a full blown crash out.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 10: I took my full morning latte and I smashed it
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 10: on the ground and I grunted.
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 6: And yelled and walked away.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 4: And he's like, what's the murder? You're the matter?
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 10: Not even lois so much him because he had an
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 10: opportunity to stand up against misogyny and he fucking didn't want.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: I still think that that's not real. I actually still
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: think like in a way could be like she said
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: she threw her morning latte like it just it, but
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't, Like you just can't tell I. I you know, I.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 3: Pelted them with my avocado toast.
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. The only reason why I think
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: it's true is because she didn't win. You know, there
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: wasn't an eight year old involved that was like, Mommy,
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: are the bad icemn gonna take me away and throw
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: me in the ocean with the alligators?
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 3: I just okay, just and this isn't This isn't a
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 3: left or right thing. If this is an allegation, that's ridiculous.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 3: It's an allegation that's ridiculous. Period. And if she's saying
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 3: that it's a certified no, it's not certified at all. Well,
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 3: first of all, it's a civil suit. And second of all,
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 3: was it decided or was it taken out of court
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 3: or something to end it?
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's ongoing, but it looks like Egene Carrol's
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: gonna have to like pay him back or something like.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: I think she's losing the case, all right.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 3: And also even in some cases when these cases, like
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 3: the women in a criminal trial actually get a conviction.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 3: It's actually a false conviction. But we don't even have
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 3: the final result. And she's saying, oh, it's certified. No
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 3: it's not. Okay, it is not. But you know, this
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 3: could be a pope. Let's finish.
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: I guess that's the end of it. That's that was it.
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: I played it.
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 3: She's leaving her six foot four boyfriend for this.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, giga chad boyfriend. That's what I'm saying, Like I
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: you know it, I don't know. I think that people online,
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: they're more they're inclined to nonsense, be hyperbolic because it
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: gets some more likes and clicks and retweets. So well, honestly,
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: it could be like somewhat true, but there's a lot
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: of embellishment, is what I'm saying.
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm worried. Like I said that Caddy remark
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 3: about her filter. I'm just wondering if maybe she's actually,
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 3: like God, had a stroke or something because of the
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 3: left side of her That's gonna make me feel really bad.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: Oh maybe she's No, I'm not gonna say it's she's jabbed.
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: You underwent an experimental.
• 2:24:51
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• 2:24:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think it actually does that. But now, okay,
• 2:24:58
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